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This makes me curious to buy an old Chicony with Aristotles and swap the stems into some Gaterons/Zealios. Ultimately though, I was planning on using vintage MX whites in zealio housings for a nice translucent clicky switch. If aristotles can fit into Zealio housings, then I -MIGHT- go that route.
Quote from: E3E on Wed, 16 December 2015, 12:13:18This makes me curious to buy an old Chicony with Aristotles and swap the stems into some Gaterons/Zealios. Ultimately though, I was planning on using vintage MX whites in zealio housings for a nice translucent clicky switch. If aristotles can fit into Zealio housings, then I -MIGHT- go that route. Aristotle stems get stuck in traditional gateron housings. Only the RGB clear top ones work.
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I would definitely be interested in a keyboards worth! I do have echo qwack's question? Cherry's click mechanism is constructed in a way that the plastic has to wear away before clicking tactile feel would fade. The mechanism on these seems rather thin. Is there a potential that this would would fail within a much smaller amount of time than something like the CherryMX Blues?
Quote from: ika on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:12:52Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:00:39Quote from: Lepidus on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:58:41Zeal, can you adjust the bottom housing so it has, like cherry, the little cut to fit SMD leds?Adding that would mean no SIP sockets, or anything to hold the LED legs "straight". My transparent bottom housing mould also can't add that (you can only add more holes to a mould, making something bigger, but can't remove plastic which requires metal in place of it). I think Gateron has a milky bottom one that uses SMD holes though... AFAIK Gateron does - for Massdrop's Team Wolf drop, they included Gateron switches that were compatible with SMD RGB resistors.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/team-wolf-swappable-switch-mechanical-keyboardNot sure how compatible they are with regular LEDs, though, or even what the SMD compatible portion looks like.Yeah, I've seen that post. Unsure what it looks like at the bottom, or how it would affect the structural integrity of the switch when pulling out of a plate.
Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:00:39Quote from: Lepidus on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:58:41Zeal, can you adjust the bottom housing so it has, like cherry, the little cut to fit SMD leds?Adding that would mean no SIP sockets, or anything to hold the LED legs "straight". My transparent bottom housing mould also can't add that (you can only add more holes to a mould, making something bigger, but can't remove plastic which requires metal in place of it). I think Gateron has a milky bottom one that uses SMD holes though... AFAIK Gateron does - for Massdrop's Team Wolf drop, they included Gateron switches that were compatible with SMD RGB resistors.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/team-wolf-swappable-switch-mechanical-keyboardNot sure how compatible they are with regular LEDs, though, or even what the SMD compatible portion looks like.
Quote from: Lepidus on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:58:41Zeal, can you adjust the bottom housing so it has, like cherry, the little cut to fit SMD leds?Adding that would mean no SIP sockets, or anything to hold the LED legs "straight". My transparent bottom housing mould also can't add that (you can only add more holes to a mould, making something bigger, but can't remove plastic which requires metal in place of it). I think Gateron has a milky bottom one that uses SMD holes though...
Zeal, can you adjust the bottom housing so it has, like cherry, the little cut to fit SMD leds?
I really like the characteristics of the click but personally I would prefer a lower pitch sound, like a "tak tak" or even "tok tok" instead of a "tik tik". Not sure if that's possible with the way the mechanism works. I'll probably grab enough for a 60% for experimentation.
Quote from: ika on Wed, 16 December 2015, 17:04:01I really like the characteristics of the click but personally I would prefer a lower pitch sound, like a "tak tak" or even "tok tok" instead of a "tik tik". Not sure if that's possible with the way the mechanism works. I'll probably grab enough for a 60% for experimentation.I think the pitch may change a little depending on the plate where they were mounted, material and thickness, and on the housing used with the particular setup, at least I hope so, I do prefer lower pitch as well.
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Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 18:39:58Quote from: ika on Wed, 16 December 2015, 17:04:01I really like the characteristics of the click but personally I would prefer a lower pitch sound, like a "tak tak" or even "tok tok" instead of a "tik tik". Not sure if that's possible with the way the mechanism works. I'll probably grab enough for a 60% for experimentation.I think the pitch may change a little depending on the plate where they were mounted, material and thickness, and on the housing used with the particular setup, at least I hope so, I do prefer lower pitch as well.Aluminum plate + closed case + thick abs/pbt (personally I prefer the thick abs sound) = lower switch sound. A plastic plate with thicker abs will actually add a pleasing "thock" sound in my experience, which I find very pleasing.
I feel like I'd need to hear these in person and feel them to know the difference.
sorry, i got distracted and forgot to make a video.here we go. board #1 on the top that i start with is mx blues.the second board bellow is mx housing with aristotle plungers.on the aristotle switches i have 80g springs.
Quote from: rm-rf on Thu, 17 December 2015, 00:53:52sorry, i got distracted and forgot to make a video.here we go. board #1 on the top that i start with is mx blues.the second board bellow is mx housing with aristotle plungers.on the aristotle switches i have 80g springs.MoreSo the aristotles are higher pitched and sound more "ticky," not sure if I really like that sound. Though, like Alps, the magic MIGHT be in the bottom out. Now that I think about it, it is somewhat reminiscent of Alps in the click alone.Your touch seemed very light and deliberate in not bottoming the switches out. How does the bottom out sound on aristotles?
sorry, i got distracted and forgot to make a video.here we go. board #1 on the top that i start with is mx blues.the second board bellow is mx housing with aristotle plungers.on the aristotle switches i have 80g springs.More
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Also, with a name, just call them cyan Zealios, Zeal. Lol, I mean there's no special name for the linears or the purple Zealios! Cyan Zealios would be the most simplistic.
I've been given a sample of Aristotle Zealios. They're simply amazing. I almost want to say they feel closer to buckling spring than MX Blue
Quote from: rm-rf on Thu, 17 December 2015, 00:53:52sorry, i got distracted and forgot to make a video.here we go. board #1 on the top that i start with is mx blues.the second board bellow is mx housing with aristotle plungers.on the aristotle switches i have 80g springs.So the aristotles are higher pitched and sound more "ticky," not sure if I really like that sound. [...]
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Quote from: harlw on Mon, 21 December 2015, 21:10:17How's this coming along?I shipped some early proto samples (along with a bunch of other new projects *cough*) to Gateron on Friday and they should be receiving it tomorrow... Stress test/designing phase will come shortly. In the meantime, here's another pic Show Image
Quote from: jokrik on Mon, 21 December 2015, 21:22:53We need to hear the sound, well I need to Look in the thread for the videos that were already posted.