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Offline Steezus

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #250 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 18:20:52 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p

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« Reply #251 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 19:52:00 »
This concept is stunning! Can't wait to see actual versions.
This is actual version.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #252 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:00:08 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first

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« Reply #253 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:06:53 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #254 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:09:56 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #255 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:10:59 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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Woah, hold on. Where'd you get that picture of me??

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #256 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:11:42 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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Woah, hold on. Where'd you get that picture of me??

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #257 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:12:15 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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Woah, hold on. Where'd you get that picture of me??

Are you the one with the blue shirt?

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #258 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:15:20 »
Pic of me




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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #259 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:25:08 »
I know hes korean and all but damn maybe he like basic white b#@#$es

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« Reply #260 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:26:55 »
I know hes korean and all but damn maybe he like basic white b#@#$es

Or maybe he likes the sistas'

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« Reply #261 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:29:11 »
I know hes korean and all but damn maybe he like basic white b#@#$es

Or maybe he likes the sistas'

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see he gets it

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #262 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:31:15 »
Is this picture of me enough to get you aroused?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #263 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:35:47 »
Or maybe he......


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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #264 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:40:39 »
OMFG this is genius. Please I need it.

Get in line :p
let the young go first
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #265 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:44:03 »
Or maybe he......

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #266 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:46:55 »
If I wasn't so like.... into 60% kbs... and also if i had spare $450 rofl. i could just technically sell everything i own sigh

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« Reply #267 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:50:54 »
Or maybe he......

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #268 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:52:13 »
Just joking lol

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #269 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:54:15 »
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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You can see me in my avatar.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #270 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:57:46 »
You ringed my bell.
I'll let WOMEN(order in hotness) go first. And... I don't even bother to think lest of them. Who cares?

Here is a picture of me.

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You can see me in my avatar.

Fabulous.

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« Reply #271 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 21:12:48 »
Or maybe he......

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Yeah that's a negatory

Line trap, seriously. Whatever her name was back int he day. It is WEIRD as hell seeing pictures of them now.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #272 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 21:23:45 »
I could have sworn i showed major interest in this keyboard previously...

But here's my official request to be a part of this :D

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #273 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 21:33:04 »


hey vermiliion  :-*    ~ winkwink Hows bout we reinstate a special list bwt me & you  :-*
(((((((Octagon v2--JD45--VE:A--LZ Iron--Time TKL--TX1800v2)))))))

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #274 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:27:08 »
bump
A little announcement of what's going on. primarily price, tax related.
I updated OP.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #275 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:29:33 »
bump
A little announcement of what's going on. primarily price, tax related.
I updated OP.

more $$$ :(

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #276 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:32:47 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

With the way this board has been praised, Im leaning that it may indeed be possible, especially seeing how many jumped on the Octagon v2 in just a few days.

But 300 is a lot for one man, so I can see it's not possible for a single person.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #277 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:33:01 »
bump
A little announcement of what's going on. primarily price, tax related.
I updated OP.

Thanks for the update Vermillion. I appreciate you keeping us informed! I know this information will help many decide whether or not they can follow through with the GB.
I need more keyboards to hold all of these keycaps.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #278 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:39:26 »
You could charge pretty much any price now with all the hype and people would still pay you.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #279 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:40:21 »
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:

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« Reply #280 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:41:43 »
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:

Case in point.

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« Reply #281 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:47:10 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #282 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:48:54 »
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:

I've got some comic books that add up to the cost of this that I've already listed to sell.



Also, I've figure out what I'd do with the left cluster: artisans.

I'd do things for this keyboard. Bad things.
Terrible, horrible, loathsome, beautiful things.
« Last Edit: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:00:54 by romevi »

Offline Steezus

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #283 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 22:52:53 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".

Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #284 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:08:10 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".

Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?

Most shop(if you mean factory) doesn't take 300 as good amount.
If there's a shop which take that is good amount, are saying a BIG BIG cost for produce.
I must find somewhere order-price matching factory but... it's not that simple.
Which I know when last time I got lucky to produce 30 of them in that "cheap" price.
« Last Edit: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:10:17 by zefyr »
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #285 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:10:30 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".

Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?

Most shop(if you mean factory) doesn't take 300 as good amount.
If there's a shop which take that is good amount, are saying a BIG BIG cost for produce.
I must find somewhere order-price matching factory but... it's not that simple.

Whatever you feel comfortable with. We don't want to make your experience with the western audience sour. Just do what you want, and enjoy your time here on geekhack!

Feel free to visit other threads. ;)

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #286 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:26:04 »
Or maybe he......

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #287 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:36:20 »
I need this in my life!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #288 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:37:16 »
is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #289 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:41:04 »
When you say it's not realistic to reach an MOQ of 300, do you mean it's not realistic because you don't think you'll reach that, or not realistic because it's too much work for you?

Either way,
I don't think a board which price is this high cannot make 300 orders.
Even if it makes that quantity, I cannot handle it.
That's what I meant for "not realistic".

Wouldn't 300 orders being put into the shop lower the price a good amount?

I don't think people realize how unimaginably difficult a group buy of that magnitude would be. 30 would be already difficult enough.

It isn't just manufacturing MOQ and price wouldn't have been an issue for the project. There are so many different pieces that go into a keyboard buy like this.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #290 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:50:12 »
is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?
No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.

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« Reply #291 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:51:33 »
bump
A little announcement of what's going on. primarily price, tax related.
I updated OP.

The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.

Additionally, lots of people want pre-soldered PCBs and I'm sure a few want pre soldered switches. If that would prevent the buy from happening I'm sure they would figure out how to source the soldering elsewhere or do it themselves (There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).


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« Reply #292 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:53:32 »
(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).

Can't tell if this is a joke or not
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #293 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 23:55:14 »
(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).

Can't tell if this is a joke or not
There is though. Granted, there's also plenty of shady people here too.

Whatever you do please don't be like kin25. :)

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« Reply #294 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:02:59 »
is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?
No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.
It's a little heavier than magnet can fix, (I didn't tried but hmm...)
Latch or magnet to fix will be great attraction feature if possible, but you have to think about price. more complex mechanism and parts need more money.
It's already high enough, I don't think any additional feature (which is not practical when using it) is necessary.
I have my standard about design, fixing it is not in the list. Keyboard is sit on the desk most of time.
And also I want this keyboard used in split form, with proper tented stand.
The idea about "transformable" is for design, attraction, and can be practical for those who trying to move over to the split-typing world.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #295 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:05:15 »
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.
You got that a little wrong.
What I meant for that range was

minimum 400 will be 456
maximum? it could be over 513.

That's a BIG number for just one board housing and PCB.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #296 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:05:22 »
is there a mechanism that keeps the two halves together when you're not using the ergo split? like a latch?
No. but speaking of that, would a magnet (mediumish strength) work? Would be a cool little mod to figure out a latch or something.
It's a little heavier than magnet can fix, (I didn't tried but hmm...)
Latch or magnet to fix will be great attraction feature if possible, but you have to think about price. more complex mechanism and parts need more money.
It's already high enough, I don't think any additional feature (which is not practical when using it) is necessary.
I have my standard about design, fixing it is not in the list. Keyboard is sit on the desk most of time.
And also I want this keyboard used in split form, with proper tented stand.
The idea about "transformable" is for design, attraction, and can be practical for those who trying to move over to the split-typing world.
Oh I definitely understand! I meant as a mod later after people already have them. But you're right about it not being too practical, since it'll be on the desk most of the time.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #297 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:07:43 »
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.
You got that a little wrong.
What I meant for that range was

minimum 400 will be 456
maximum? it could be over 513.

That's a BIG number for just one board housing and PCB.

That it is
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #298 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:13:18 »
The difference between the 400-450 up to 456 isn't that big of a bump. I'd say that that's a tiny bump even for the low-end. Good to figure out an accurate estimation and also possibly charge a bit more to give you some working room.
You got that a little wrong.
What I meant for that range was

minimum 400 will be 456
maximum? it could be over 513.

That's a BIG number for just one board housing and PCB.

Is the price because the split design doubles the individual parts in the kit?
That was something brought up when I was having a case designed for this.
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« Reply #299 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:25:29 »
(There's lots of trustworthy soldering services available right on GH!).

Can't tell if this is a joke or not
There is though. Granted, there's also plenty of shady people here too.

Whatever you do please don't be like kin25. :)
Many Korean designer told me (including kin25) SMT is a must-in-feature when it goes global.
Hand soldering option can make the price and schedule not acceptable.
That's why I'm planning to go for SMT. it's a lot cheaper than hand-soldering and even more accurate.

But to be honest, I don't like SMT, I think it's not what custom keyboards should be, I feel ready-made from that.
Struggling to build is one of joy when it comes to hobby, -yes when it's affordable- soldering iron isn't that much. it's a little hard to learn how to solder little ICs, yet it's enjoyable.
but a few pieces of CNC work? no joke there, and also PCB. producing PCB is not that pricey but a bit hard to design since you need a bit of electronical knowledge background. That's why I share my PCB(Vergo type.T-II) outline design file on public. You can design your own PCB for VE.A.

Wow, I said a lot :) that could make some people uncomfortable.
GH is forum for custom keyboard discussion, So I think this is OK even in this thread which is -interesting check for keyboard kit-.
« Last Edit: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:28:16 by zefyr »
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