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Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 15:26:13 »
I wanted to make a thread about keyboard rendering. Fusion 360 for modeling/component renders and Blender v2.7+ with cycles for full scene rendering. If you have any suggestions of what I should model next I'm totally down for a challenge. Descriptions and added commentary are archived to flickr (link below images).



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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 15:26:52 »
To Do:
  • Improve lighting (People might think the renders are fine but I know I can always find ways to improve this)
  • Improve color reproduction (Swatches made: 5-31-17)
  • DSA and Cherry keycap models
  • Different keyboard cases (TKL, 60%, ten key, Ergodox, Planck, etc.)
  • Stabilizers, LEDs, switches, and plates, Costar stab wire
  • Add other elements: desks, lamps, plants, sculptures, general ambiance stuff
  • Add a few vintage keyboards renders: IBM buckling spring, beam spring, etc.
  • Reduce image size & re-organize images
  • Keep the thread title

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:19:35 »
Wow this is awesome thumbs up!

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:38:38 »
Wow this is awesome thumbs up!

Thanks :)
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:50:04 »
Very cool. I know firsthand how valuable these renders can be--I hired thesiscamper to render AW and I'm convinced it helped boost interest and allowed us to reach a higher MOQ. And as someone who has tried playing around with Blender just a little bit, I'm glad it makes sense to some of you because I can't get it figured out to save my life.

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:14:17 »
Very cool. I know firsthand how valuable these renders can be--I hired thesiscamper to render AW and I'm convinced it helped boost interest and allowed us to reach a higher MOQ. And as someone who has tried playing around with Blender just a little bit, I'm glad it makes sense to some of you because I can't get it figured out to save my life.

thesiscamper's renders were a major part of my inspiration for sure. As for Blender, I had a few ceramics classes in high school so I am kind of familiar with sculpting with my hands. I struggled with the basic shortcuts for the first few days, but after that it seemed like I was learning new shortcuts every day haha.
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:29:56 »
Those look great!

Yay for yellow helping to line up easier - it doesn't just look good after all :D
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:38:21 »
Those look great!

Yay for yellow helping to line up easier - it doesn't just look good after all :D

Thanks! Hue-hue, the bright color definitely helped me line up the layout but I think staring at it all day gave me a headache :p
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Re: Another Keyboard Render Thread
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 04 May 2016, 05:50:40 »
I think this render will be the last of Blender modeling. I'm happy with the results so I guess that counts for something.

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Re: Another keyboard render thread
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 04 May 2016, 07:26:51 »
Last one looks good.  Very crisp.

My only feedback would be that your Row 3 caps look a bit tall.  There's a fairly noticeable difference from Row 1 to Row 3 in SA profile.  Are you basing your renders on actual cap measurements?

The high-gloss "supershine" finish you're using looks neat.

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Re: Another keyboard render thread
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 04 May 2016, 07:48:57 »
Last one looks good.  Very crisp.

My only feedback would be that your Row 3 caps look a bit tall.  There's a fairly noticeable difference from Row 1 to Row 3 in SA profile.  Are you basing your renders on actual cap measurements?

The high-gloss "supershine" finish you're using looks neat.

I couldn't find the height of Row 3 unfortunately. This SA stuff was modeled from dozens of photos and renders. All the angles are 7/-7 or 13 degrees exactly so I think you're right, any difference would be in the base height. 2-1-2-3-4-3 is the row profile. Gloss was a bit of a beast to figure out! Thank you.
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Re: Another keyboard render thread
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:19:48 »
Last one looks good.  Very crisp.

My only feedback would be that your Row 3 caps look a bit tall.  There's a fairly noticeable difference from Row 1 to Row 3 in SA profile.  Are you basing your renders on actual cap measurements?

The high-gloss "supershine" finish you're using looks neat.

I couldn't find the height of Row 3 unfortunately. This SA stuff was modeled from dozens of photos and renders. All the angles are 7/-7 or 13 degrees exactly so I think you're right, any difference would be in the base height. 2-1-2-3-4-3 is the row profile. Gloss was a bit of a beast to figure out! Thank you.

If you haven't already seen this, it should give you the measurements you need.

http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/SAFamily.pdf

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Re: Another keyboard render thread
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:34:00 »
Last one looks good.  Very crisp.

My only feedback would be that your Row 3 caps look a bit tall.  There's a fairly noticeable difference from Row 1 to Row 3 in SA profile.  Are you basing your renders on actual cap measurements?

The high-gloss "supershine" finish you're using looks neat.

I couldn't find the height of Row 3 unfortunately. This SA stuff was modeled from dozens of photos and renders. All the angles are 7/-7 or 13 degrees exactly so I think you're right, any difference would be in the base height. 2-1-2-3-4-3 is the row profile. Gloss was a bit of a beast to figure out! Thank you.

If you haven't already seen this, it should give you the measurements you need.

http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/SAFamily.pdf

Awesome! Thank you!
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Re: Another keyboard render thread
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 06 May 2016, 10:23:08 »
I think I fixed that issue regarding Row 3, this is all Row 3 btw. I'll just have to change the angles to make it sculptured if need be. (Rebel keyset designed by Pwner)

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:37:22 »
Well this is cool to see, are you still doing this by any chance?

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 13:47:26 »
Well this is cool to see, are you still doing this by any chance?

I took a small break but I am still interested in producing renders. I'm going to attempt to make visual models for an Ergodox/Planck; if that goes well I guess I'll find more projects to work on.

Edit - Huh, I'm surprised no one mentioned the Retroblight keyset IC featured SA CMYK mods.. well, damn :-[. I'll still work on renders but I guess my keyset idea is a complete wash. My apologies to FrostyToast, and Steezus. I wouldn't have continued to try had I have known.
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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 28 June 2016, 18:49:09 »
You could try to improve the background and the lighting, but the model already great. Much better than most of the keycap-renders I've seen before.
Regarding lighting: you could try to use some studio-light-setup from blendswap. Especially if you would like to see how they done it.

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 29 June 2016, 06:15:58 »
You could try to improve the background and the lighting, but the model already great. Much better than most of the keycap-renders I've seen before.
Regarding lighting: you could try to use some studio-light-setup from blendswap. Especially if you would like to see how they done it.

I won't change the title of this thread anymore.. I think :))

Yea, I totally see where you're coming from about the lighting. The background I kept as plain black because I'm not trying to showcase the background, just the stuff in the forground. I've been skimming through a 500+ page manual on CAD modeling so that my model is 100% legit. I feel bad that my model is lacking switch stems, and I can't seem to zoom in correctly with Blender for all the tiny details. I'll check out that link later today, thank you for that! Cycles rendering has been great so far but I can always use new tools and techniques to improve on this little hobby of mine.
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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 29 June 2016, 06:24:52 »
I won't change the title of this thread anymore.. I think :))

hehe  ;)

I guess it just seemed to common to do a studio-background, but probably you're right about it. Plain black isn't some kind of eyewash.
Regarding the zooming: Try to switch the view between orthographic and perspective using 5 on the numpad. I usually do everything in orthographic, but sometimes it helps to use perspective mode.
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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 29 June 2016, 06:40:41 »
I won't change the title of this thread anymore.. I think :))

hehe  ;)

I guess it just seemed to common to do a studio-background, but probably you're right about it. Plain black isn't some kind of eyewash.
Regarding the zooming: Try to switch the view between orthographic and perspective using 5 on the numpad. I usually do everything in orthographic, but sometimes it helps to use perspective mode.
Yea, Cycles is great. I mainly doing After Effects stuff, film and 2Danimation, but tried Blender a few years ago (V.2.4.9) and first didn't noticed HOW much it sucked. But then they changed the interface and added Cycles and now I'm pretty happy with it. I'm by no means an expert in Blender, but I know some things. So if you stuck somewhere feel free to ask me.

I'll give the perspective thing a go. Seeing your stuff gave me a fresh look at what can be accomplished with Blender. Perhaps I could try again but I'm 100% not happy with boolean and beveling. Prepping for a proper Boolean operation (subtraction) in Blender is what made me think about switching to CAD modeling :)) Eventually I abandoned boolean altogether and modeled a TKL by placing each edge individually. That completely messed up my ability to bevel the inner edges of the case, it's a mess if you ask me.
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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 07 July 2016, 11:07:01 »
These renders look great! They're like made of shiny candy morsels. I've never tried using Blender but I used to have love-hate relationship with 3D Max and Alias back in the day.
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 07 July 2016, 11:16:05 »
These renders look great! They're like made of shiny candy morsels. I've never tried using Blender but I used to have love-hate relationship with 3D Max and Alias back in the day.
Hey, you're in O-town too. How 'bout this heat? :P

Omg, last week the humidity dropped to 60% one day, then increased to 80%+ the next day haha; it made my ears pop. Thank you for the compliment! From what I've read Blender is a mirror copy of 3D Max and Maya so all the controls are backwards :))
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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 04 August 2016, 14:19:32 »
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:12:03 »
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amazing work man. love those renders  :thumb:

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 11 August 2016, 15:49:44 »
Cool, I didn't know you could do stuff with Blender. It's what I started using initially to preview some models. Maybe I'll start learning it since the other options are pretty pricey for now.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 11 August 2016, 16:44:10 »
Cool, I didn't know you could do stuff with Blender. It's what I started using initially to preview some models. Maybe I'll start learning it since the other options are pretty pricey for now.

It'll utilize Cuda Cores, and can also do cluster rendering. And if you do decide to fork out serious cash for Maya, Zbrush, or what have you, you would already have the terminology down from Blender. So if anything, it's a great starting point to learn the model/render process. I might continue with Blender since most of the tools I need are so easily accessible. I just wish Blender had some of the tools that are available in most CAD/CAM software. There is a bit of refinement that needs to be done if you want to drop a model from Blender into Cura or whatever slicing program you might want to use.
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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 12 August 2016, 08:13:39 »
Cool, I didn't know you could do stuff with Blender. It's what I started using initially to preview some models. Maybe I'll start learning it since the other options are pretty pricey for now.

It'll utilize Cuda Cores, and can also do cluster rendering. And if you do decide to fork out serious cash for Maya, Zbrush, or what have you, you would already have the terminology down from Blender. So if anything, it's a great starting point to learn the model/render process. I might continue with Blender since most of the tools I need are so easily accessible. I just wish Blender had some of the tools that are available in most CAD/CAM software. There is a bit of refinement that needs to be done if you want to drop a model from Blender into Cura or whatever slicing program you might want to use.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 12 August 2016, 08:43:39 »
Cool, I didn't know you could do stuff with Blender. It's what I started using initially to preview some models. Maybe I'll start learning it since the other options are pretty pricey for now.

It'll utilize Cuda Cores, and can also do cluster rendering. And if you do decide to fork out serious cash for Maya, Zbrush, or what have you, you would already have the terminology down from Blender. So if anything, it's a great starting point to learn the model/render process. I might continue with Blender since most of the tools I need are so easily accessible. I just wish Blender had some of the tools that are available in most CAD/CAM software. There is a bit of refinement that needs to be done if you want to drop a model from Blender into Cura or whatever slicing program you might want to use.

thoughts on autodesk Fusnion 360?

thats what i use.

I tinkered with Fusion 360 a bit before I switched over to Debian. From what I saw I loved, aside from the tedious way Fusion handles importing. I'm still a complete noob when it comes down to actual CAD/CAM, and afaik rendering in general, but a lot of professionals talk/write highly of Fusion. From what I've seen, you have a pretty solid grasp of what Fusion has to offer. To be honest--Autodesk's use of cloud does make me a little nervous.
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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 03 September 2016, 13:29:30 »
Cool, I didn't know you could do stuff with Blender. It's what I started using initially to preview some models. Maybe I'll start learning it since the other options are pretty pricey for now.

It'll utilize Cuda Cores, and can also do cluster rendering. And if you do decide to fork out serious cash for Maya, Zbrush, or what have you, you would already have the terminology down from Blender. So if anything, it's a great starting point to learn the model/render process. I might continue with Blender since most of the tools I need are so easily accessible. I just wish Blender had some of the tools that are available in most CAD/CAM software. There is a bit of refinement that needs to be done if you want to drop a model from Blender into Cura or whatever slicing program you might want to use.

thoughts on autodesk Fusnion 360?

thats what i use.
Regarding rendering, it's a bit ****. Everything else is great though :))

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 04 September 2016, 16:47:57 »
Love how it is progressing. The SA caps look a bit too tall, roght now, though

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 04 September 2016, 18:14:01 »
Love how it is progressing. The SA caps look a bit too tall, roght now, though

Hey, thanks! I'm kind of putting projects on hold while I upgrade equipment. I ended up with 14GBs of data after two months so I think I need a few backup HDDs as well :))

I noticed the tallish keycaps before doing the Rebel render. Are they still too tall? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81606.msg2163994#msg2163994

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 05 September 2016, 09:53:23 »
Hmmm, sorry. Not sure but the space bar looks out of proportion and specifically the R1 key in a previous render. Guess the only way to find out is to get the actual measures (maybe on Signature Plastics' website or ask them direclty).

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 05 September 2016, 10:07:04 »
Hmmm, sorry. Not sure but the space bar looks out of proportion and specifically the R1 key in a previous render. Guess the only way to find out is to get the actual measures (maybe on Signature Plastics' website or ask them direclty).

Yep, I agree with you. That's the only way to know for sure. Thanks for letting me know!
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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 27 October 2016, 07:42:54 »
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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 30 October 2016, 20:37:53 »
Are you making the CAD files of these boards yourself?
I typed this post on my Slanck. I also developed a stronger, cleaner, easier handwiring method.


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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 30 October 2016, 20:42:48 »
I LOVED this thread. I just started really trying to learn Blender as well (my first render looked almost identical to your first haha) and have been slowly getting better. This thread gives me hope though! Thanks for sharing this.
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 10:34:10 »
Are you making the CAD files of these boards yourself?

The last board is based on the KUL tenkeyless board. So far I've only modeled and rendered in Blender

I LOVED this thread. I just started really trying to learn Blender as well (my first render looked almost identical to your first haha) and have been slowly getting better. This thread gives me hope though! Thanks for sharing this.

Whoa, thank you so much! 
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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 31 January 2017, 05:04:10 »
New render for Clemence's [IC] SA Utopia added to op. I recently ordered a slightly better cpu so hopefully once the thermal paste comes in I'll step it up a bit.
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 31 January 2017, 07:34:05 »
Are you planning to share the object files so we can work our own colorways?

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 31 January 2017, 09:03:41 »
Are you planning to share the object files so we can work our own colorways?

Oh, most definitely not. The last thing I want to do is share my meshes and inevitably be the cause of a 2-3 year Massdrop waiting list.  :'(
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:11:07 »
Renders look great so you've definitely learned a lot with Blender. I've been trying to get going as well but not as well versed as I thought :P

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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:41:26 »
Renders look great so you've definitely learned a lot with Blender. I've been trying to get going as well but not as well versed as I thought :P

Cheers, thank you. I'd say 90% of my time with Blender was spent reading/eyeing content from blendernation, blenderguru, r/blender.

When I switch to Fusion 360 for modeling I'll still use Blender's rendering engine. So many amazing features :)
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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:48:07 »

Cheers, thank you. I'd say 90% of my time with Blender was spent reading/eyeing content from blendernation, blenderguru, r/blender.

When I switch to Fusion 360 for modeling I'll still use Blender's rendering engine. So many amazing features :)

Yea I'll have to spend a lot of time with Blender to understand everything. I've started to use 360 but as I came from Sketchup, it's completely frustrating! Even though it's a better suite, a lot of things are annoyingly difficult.

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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:57:15 »
When I switch to Fusion 360 for modeling I'll still use Blender's rendering engine. So many amazing features :)

Fusion is great dude, at least for someone like me who had no experience going in to it.  I taught myself the basics and had a full board modeled in a few days.  Check out my Instagram if you want.  There is a few early samples posted up there.  I still need to try out blender for rendering, I feel like I could get a lot better results.

New render looks great as well.  :thumb:

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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:00:49 »

Cheers, thank you. I'd say 90% of my time with Blender was spent reading/eyeing content from blendernation, blenderguru, r/blender.

When I switch to Fusion 360 for modeling I'll still use Blender's rendering engine. So many amazing features :)

Yea I'll have to spend a lot of time with Blender to understand everything. I've started to use 360 but as I came from Sketchup, it's completely frustrating! Even though it's a better suite, a lot of things are annoyingly difficult.

My issue with Fusion 360 is how difficult it is to switch back and forth from sculpt to model or vice versa. I'd say FreeCAD is a bit more intuitive but it lacks Sculpt mode.
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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:14:59 »
When I switch to Fusion 360 for modeling I'll still use Blender's rendering engine. So many amazing features :)

Fusion is great dude, at least for someone like me who had no experience going in to it.  I taught myself the basics and had a full board modeled in a few days.  Check out my Instagram if you want.  There is a few early samples posted up there.  I still need to try out blender for rendering, I feel like I could get a lot better results.

New render looks great as well.  :thumb:

Nice stuff! And thanks. Blender seems to favor OpenGL according to Blenchmark. I'm really diggin' sculpt mode in Fusion 360; I'll be dumping a lot of stuff into this thread in the next few months once I install the newer CPU.
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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 14:15:15 »
I'm just starting to learn Blender. For me the VSE(video editor) and Node Compositor were what drew me back to it. I'd tried to learn it way back at 2.0 but didn't have the time or patience. Now I have a better grasp on 3D and more patience and I have a 3D printer and like Blender over a CAD program. I set up a network render box so I don't have to render on my Macbook.

My modeling skills are still pretty horrible but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I don't have anything to share because I haven't moved to Google Photos from Dropbox yet and it's pointless to post images from Dropbox this close to public folder getting shut down.

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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 15:18:53 »
I'm just starting to learn Blender. For me the VSE(video editor) and Node Compositor were what drew me back to it. I'd tried to learn it way back at 2.0 but didn't have the time or patience. Now I have a better grasp on 3D and more patience and I have a 3D printer and like Blender over a CAD program. I set up a network render box so I don't have to render on my Macbook.

My modeling skills are still pretty horrible but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I don't have anything to share because I haven't moved to Google Photos from Dropbox yet and it's pointless to post images from Dropbox this close to public folder getting shut down.

Oh man, that Pegasus 3d printer build log.. I see that you're setup for dual extrusion, nice :) I have Manjaro/i3 installed as a workstation distro for rendering (benchmarks the same as Fedora 25 w/less overhead). If this hobby grows I'll probably use a different PC for modeling as well but for now dual booting Windows 10 seems to work. I really should check out Google Photos
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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 18:24:04 »
I'm just starting to learn Blender. For me the VSE(video editor) and Node Compositor were what drew me back to it. I'd tried to learn it way back at 2.0 but didn't have the time or patience. Now I have a better grasp on 3D and more patience and I have a 3D printer and like Blender over a CAD program. I set up a network render box so I don't have to render on my Macbook.

My modeling skills are still pretty horrible but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I don't have anything to share because I haven't moved to Google Photos from Dropbox yet and it's pointless to post images from Dropbox this close to public folder getting shut down.

Oh man, that Pegasus 3d printer build log.. I see that you're setup for dual extrusion, nice :) I have Manjaro/i3 installed as a workstation distro for rendering (benchmarks the same as Fedora 25 w/less overhead). If this hobby grows I'll probably use a different PC for modeling as well but for now dual booting Windows 10 seems to work. I really should check out Google Photos

Thanks, the pegasus is very nice. I need to get some PETG and reprint some of my BB-8 parts. Currently Im running a Core i5 with a Nvidia 550GTX. I have the server and two other instance running on the machine. One instance uses the CPU and the other the GPU and the other is just the master that doesn't render it just manages who renders what. It's still really slow when I do high-poly smoothed logo animations with complex materials using the Cycles renderer. If your not using Cycles I cant suggest it enough, but just from the renders I'd bet you are. I had one 3sec animation take almost 3 days to render at 30fps 1080p single image per frame. I tend to get crazy with textures.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:25:11 »
It's not a keyboard but here is something I played with this evening just to practice my modeling. This is real rough and has no subdivision surfaces. It's low poly with smoothing on.

https://goo.gl/photos/vKTgaMU4kT2tQh9Y7

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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:16:31 »
Hehe, cycles is a must. Fireflies be damned. I have 196 objects in the basic scene (698,000 polygons or 1.3m triangles or 335m) and that is just the keyboard without the desk or surrounding room. I actually messed around with NURBS paths a bit when I was trying to figure out how to model a somewhat realistic USB cord. I'm not ready for animations. Holy moly :confused:

I'm not really sure what that is (a helmet maybe?) but I'm sure it'll be something cool with a bit of paint or whatever you might do to it after it's printed. From what I understand sculpting mode in Blender is chock full of features. It might not be as feature rich as Zbrush but one doesn't pay $600 for Blender. Below is possibly the last render to use an unmodified font. Inkscape + Font Forge = <3






So I was a bit selfish and did a render just for me. New Color Management plugin, lighting system, and lens. The colorway is inspired by PF Flyer's Sandlot shoe.



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(1600x900 oi) screenshot while I was rendering the above image.



Oh, I thought I should mention this to anyone reading. Screen tearing is a feature that needs to be disabled in some Linux environments. Sometimes editing xorg.conf with the following does the trick for AMD and Intel: (Example and example would theoretically be whatever your Id and Drivers are)

Section "Device"
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   Option      "AccelMethod" "sna"
   Option      "TearFree" "true"
EndSection

The two options are what I add in. I'm not responsible for broken display servers lol but AFAIK this is about as close as you get to an automagical fix for display tearing with xorg. My way isn't the best and certainly not the only way but it does alleviate my screen tearing with Manjaro 17, and Pupplylinux Tahr. Linux Mint 18 was fine out of the box iirc.
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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:54:35 »
Somewhere on the blender forums is a whole thread on optimizing xorg.conf and GPU settings for best results. I don't know if that ever made it into the wiki or not. I apologies as I don't have a link handy.

My render is the head of a Valkyrie from Macross. It's the VF-1S variant. It's one of my favorite anime series of all time. I worked on the gun barrel some last night and I have it about where I want it and I think I have the material just about right to look like a power coated metal barrel.

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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 10:14:24 »
Intriguing. So the guns are supposed to spin on an axis. The Blender forums are full of information and there are a lot of people that know what you're up to but there's not a lot of information regarding keyboard rendering. This is why I created a keyboard rendering thread. Optimizing Linux for Blender is something I do; maybe I'm sharing too much?
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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:30:33 »
Intriguing. So the guns are supposed to spin on an axis. The Blender forums are full of information and there are a lot of people that know what you're up to but there's not a lot of information regarding keyboard rendering. This is why I created a keyboard rendering thread. Optimizing Linux for Blender is something I do; maybe I'm sharing too much?

You can never share too much.  I am curious, did you use the key models from github (https://github.com/getclacking/SA-profile-keys-3D-models) or make them from scratch. Also are your letterings textures or text objects?

It may also be helpful for others if you post your material node configurations. For many people materials are the hardest thing to get right after lighting.

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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:59:42 »
Intriguing. So the guns are supposed to spin on an axis. The Blender forums are full of information and there are a lot of people that know what you're up to but there's not a lot of information regarding keyboard rendering. This is why I created a keyboard rendering thread. Optimizing Linux for Blender is something I do; maybe I'm sharing too much?

You can never share too much.  I am curious, did you use the key models from github (https://github.com/getclacking/SA-profile-keys-3D-models) or make them from scratch. Also are your letterings textures or text objects?

It may also be helpful for others if you post your material node configurations. For many people materials are the hardest thing to get right after lighting.

Nope. My SA keycap meshes are from the past year of trial and error. If people want materials they can d/l their own or watch some tutorials on youtube. I'm pretty sure people have written books about CG texturing and lord knows I don't need to add to that pile of information. The legends and icons are SVG files that I convert into meshes :)
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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:21:32 »
Intriguing. So the guns are supposed to spin on an axis. The Blender forums are full of information and there are a lot of people that know what you're up to but there's not a lot of information regarding keyboard rendering. This is why I created a keyboard rendering thread. Optimizing Linux for Blender is something I do; maybe I'm sharing too much?

You can never share too much.  I am curious, did you use the key models from github (https://github.com/getclacking/SA-profile-keys-3D-models) or make them from scratch. Also are your letterings textures or text objects?

It may also be helpful for others if you post your material node configurations. For many people materials are the hardest thing to get right after lighting.

Nope. My SA keycap meshes are from the past year of trial and error. If people want materials they can d/l their own or watch some tutorials on youtube. I'm pretty sure people have written books about CG texturing and lord knows I don't need to add to that pile of information. The legends and icons are SVG files that I convert into meshes :)

I am curious why you are importing the letters as SVG. The icons make perfect sense. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the way you are doing it, Im just wondering if I'm going about it wrong as I would use a text object and extrude that and embed in the key. What are the benefits if any to importing the SVG? Right now your stuff looks far better than mine so I'm real curious about all your processes and trains of thought. I know there are probably a dozen ways to do it so I want to learn the pros and cons of each method.

You are right about the textures. Im thinking about picking up this ebookL  https://store.blender.org/product/cycles-encyclopedia/   It's a bit pricy for an e-book but if I understand correct you get unlimited updates as Cycles grows and evolves.

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:09:08 »
Sometimes I use subdivide and when you combine subdivide and extrusion/boolean well.. when Esc looks like a fountain of crystals you know something ain't right :)). That ebook looks legit. Also: https://www.poliigon.com.
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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:29:21 »
Sometimes I use subdivide and when you combine subdivide and extrusion/boolean well.. when Esc looks like a fountain of crystals you know something ain't right :)). That ebook looks legit. Also: https://www.poliigon.com.

If the ESC looks like a fountain of crystals, we just call it an artisan. The Mech head I've been working on is doing that. I made a few mistakes and they just get worse as you keep working. The visor and gun barrels are ok but I have to redo the head. The biggest no-no I made was using inset. You almost always end up with triangles instead of squares when you use it. Lesson learned, no shortcuts use subdivide and do the work manually. I think I will try my hand are rendering a keyboard this weekend. I'll probably use the keys from the above github as I just want to play with some color combinations and textures. Now I just need system with 20 GTX 1080Ti cards and 8 processors and 256G ram so I can render in near real time.

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:40:39 »
Sometimes I use subdivide and when you combine subdivide and extrusion/boolean well.. when Esc looks like a fountain of crystals you know something ain't right :)). That ebook looks legit. Also: https://www.poliigon.com.

If the ESC looks like a fountain of crystals, we just call it an artisan. The Mech head I've been working on is doing that. I made a few mistakes and they just get worse as you keep working. The visor and gun barrels are ok but I have to redo the head. The biggest no-no I made was using inset. You almost always end up with triangles instead of squares when you use it. Lesson learned, no shortcuts use subdivide and do the work manually. I think I will try my hand are rendering a keyboard this weekend. I'll probably use the keys from the above github as I just want to play with some color combinations and textures. Now I just need system with 20 GTX 1080Ti cards and 8 processors and 256G ram so I can render in near real time.

Lol. A couple E5-2699 V4 chips and a couple Tesla K80s should work ;)
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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:02:24 »
Sometimes I use subdivide and when you combine subdivide and extrusion/boolean well.. when Esc looks like a fountain of crystals you know something ain't right :)). That ebook looks legit. Also: https://www.poliigon.com.

If the ESC looks like a fountain of crystals, we just call it an artisan. The Mech head I've been working on is doing that. I made a few mistakes and they just get worse as you keep working. The visor and gun barrels are ok but I have to redo the head. The biggest no-no I made was using inset. You almost always end up with triangles instead of squares when you use it. Lesson learned, no shortcuts use subdivide and do the work manually. I think I will try my hand are rendering a keyboard this weekend. I'll probably use the keys from the above github as I just want to play with some color combinations and textures. Now I just need system with 20 GTX 1080Ti cards and 8 processors and 256G ram so I can render in near real time.

Lol. A couple E5-2699 V4 chips and a couple Tesla K80s should work ;)

My understanding is the GTX1080Ti is faster than the K80 due to new architecture. The Tesla line is due for an overhaul and complete update.

Imagine rendering on this:  https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/4028/SYS-4028GR-TRT2.cfm
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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 16:28:14 »
Sometimes I use subdivide and when you combine subdivide and extrusion/boolean well.. when Esc looks like a fountain of crystals you know something ain't right :)). That ebook looks legit. Also: https://www.poliigon.com.

If the ESC looks like a fountain of crystals, we just call it an artisan. The Mech head I've been working on is doing that. I made a few mistakes and they just get worse as you keep working. The visor and gun barrels are ok but I have to redo the head. The biggest no-no I made was using inset. You almost always end up with triangles instead of squares when you use it. Lesson learned, no shortcuts use subdivide and do the work manually. I think I will try my hand are rendering a keyboard this weekend. I'll probably use the keys from the above github as I just want to play with some color combinations and textures. Now I just need system with 20 GTX 1080Ti cards and 8 processors and 256G ram so I can render in near real time.

Lol. A couple E5-2699 V4 chips and a couple Tesla K80s should work ;)

My understanding is the GTX1080Ti is faster than the K80 due to new architecture. The Tesla line is due for an overhaul and complete update.

Imagine rendering on this:  https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/4028/SYS-4028GR-TRT2.cfm
Stuffed with two E5-2687W 2.7Ghz, 3TB DDR4 ram, 11x GTX1080Ti

Sure buy 11 1080 ti's. Because there are plenty of consumer chassis that can fit 11 GPUs. Heck. All Xeons have over 44 pcie lanes right? It would allow me to edit an entire MMORPG continent in real-time but that's not nearly enough juice for my use case. 3840 Cuda and 24GB frame buffer w/384-bit I/O... pfft that's for the plebs.
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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:12:03 »
If we are going to dream we need to dream big right?

I'll post any keyboard renderings I do this weekend. I have some ideas but I'm in no position to do a group buy so I'll just show them off.

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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:25:13 »
I don't dream anyone. Ok, but this time post keyboard renders.
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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:12:08 »
Lighting is not quite right, and I need to work on the textures some. But here is what I've come up with, took longer than I expected I had to remake the key more times than I can count till I got it to look ok, but it's not great.


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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 22 March 2017, 23:34:38 »
Lighting is not quite right, and I need to work on the textures some. But here is what I've come up with, took longer than I expected I had to remake the key more times than I can count till I got it to look ok, but it's not great.

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Hey, not bad! Sure has a slew of indicator LEDs holy moly
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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:11:31 »
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Hey, not bad! Sure has a slew of indicator LEDs holy moly (Attachment Link)

Yea to indicate which layer, but probably end up using a segmented LED when I get around to designing the electronics as it makes more sense and will look better. I'm going to work on that floor texture, it's a sample from poliigon and it should look better than that even though it's one of the lower end ones you can dl with the trail period. The scale on the case texture is far too small to so I need to fix that. I'll also adjust the lighting and rerender it tonight in hopes that it looks a bit more realistic. I have it sitting on the floor plane but it still looks like it's floating to me.

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:47:28 »
This is looking much better. I'm using FilmicLog Colorspace which helps get the lighting looking more realistic.


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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 23 March 2017, 20:02:01 »
This is looking much better. I'm using FilmicLog Colorspace which helps get the lighting looking more realistic.

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Nice cord! Is there suppose to be a crease on the top of the keycaps?

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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 08:33:30 »
Supposed to be? no, but I haven't redone the caps. It happened because of mirror modifyer. You notice something similar on the longer keys that I just stretched. I'll get around to fixing it but I just haven't yet.

The cord is probably the easiest thing to do on the whole keyboard next to the LEDs.


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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:31:28 »
Supposed to be? no, but I haven't redone the caps. It happened because of mirror modifyer. You notice something similar on the longer keys that I just stretched. I'll get around to fixing it but I just haven't yet.

The cord is probably the easiest thing to do on the whole keyboard next to the LEDs.

I'm the worst at critiquing but you already know this. For my cord I did some rigging and never really understood what I was doing. One of these days I'll revisit the scene I have with cords and stuffs.
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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 01:40:39 »
Supposed to be? no, but I haven't redone the caps. It happened because of mirror modifyer. You notice something similar on the longer keys that I just stretched. I'll get around to fixing it but I just haven't yet.

The cord is probably the easiest thing to do on the whole keyboard next to the LEDs.

I'm the worst at critiquing but you already know this. For my cord I did some rigging and never really understood what I was doing. One of these days I'll revisit the scene I have with cords and stuffs.

This is what I did. I made a cylinder and stretched it to an appropriate length, then made 500(the max at a time) loop cuts. Then make a bezier curve and extrude it several times to get more nodes on the curve.  Add a curve modifier to the cylinder and bind it to the curve. I've not gone as far as binding the curve to bone stack for physics as I haven't worked with any of that yet.

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 07:34:05 »
Supposed to be? no, but I haven't redone the caps. It happened because of mirror modifyer. You notice something similar on the longer keys that I just stretched. I'll get around to fixing it but I just haven't yet.

The cord is probably the easiest thing to do on the whole keyboard next to the LEDs.

I'm the worst at critiquing but you already know this. For my cord I did some rigging and never really understood what I was doing. One of these days I'll revisit the scene I have with cords and stuffs.

This is what I did. I made a cylinder and stretched it to an appropriate length, then made 500(the max at a time) loop cuts. Then make a bezier curve and extrude it several times to get more nodes on the curve.  Add a curve modifier to the cylinder and bind it to the curve. I've not gone as far as binding the curve to bone stack for physics as I haven't worked with any of that yet.

Ohhh, I think I see what you did. I started with a modifed curves galore shape, bound it to my curves profile, and added a 'skeleton' to the cord (NURB path in blender speak); it sucked. But once you have a NURB path you can tweak a flexible part endlessly (or until stackoverflow :)) ). Recreating the same curves profile over and over again would have been a beast to do imo.
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 10:30:10 »
So I did some experimenting. A lot of this you will probably know but I'll explain what I know and understand as I go for anyone else that reads this.


So the idea is to have a cord or cable that bends and moves with real world physics. You could manually adjust the curves for every frame but that gets tedious so we'll sue bone armatures.

Start with a simple bezier curve with two control points(I find it easiest to work in Ortho top down for this). You can subdivide or extrude to get more points, but for simplicity sake we will use only two.

Enter edit mode select one control point(not a handle) and align it [(v) Aligned]. Do that for both control points so that you curve is a straight line.

Select the first control point and put the 3D cursor to that point[ Shift-S, cursor to selected exit edit and add a bone, rotate the bone so it's on the curve.

Select the curve and do the enter edit mode and do the same thing for the second control point.

In edit mode on the curve select your first control point only, then in the outliner find the bone that is aligned with that control point right click and select SELECT (do not left click as that deselects the control point), now [CTRL-H and Hook to Selected Bone]. Repeat for the second control point.

Now you can add you Cylinder and align it to the curve. Edit the cylinder and add a large number of loop cuts (CRTL-R) and add a curve modifier to the cylinder and you have have a cord that can be controlled by physics.

Hopefully that makes sense. If I get time I will make a video.

In theory you should now be able to tie the anchor bone to a point on the keyboard and as you more the keyboard the cable will move and bend according to your physics model you set up and wont go through the table/floor surface and can collide with other objects that affect the way it bends.

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Re: keyboard render fu
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:45:10 »
Sigh. I see a project happening once that stupid thermal paste hits my doorstep. I think I finally recovered from the update that wiped out my color management profile. I guess one downside to using Filmic is that you have to reinstall with every update. Lord knows I want the 2.8 update with all the extra man hours that went into it but I'll be ready this time to reinstall Filmic (maybe they'll include Filmic :squeal:). A few days ago I spent an hour organizing and adding folders for templates for different keysets and different keyboard cases. Probably different studio-like sets as well. I briefly tinkered in Blender to help me visual woodworking projects so hopefully what I learned from that will bleed over to set design. I'll continue to adjust lighting and exposure, so far I don't feel like I should burn my renders with fire but I know that there is tons of room for improvement.

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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 18:05:17 »
Is there a way you could take all that and make your own personal github with the folder layouts and everything so you just have to dl it into the directory? I cant imagine much of that will change for a while now. Just as long as you don't overwrite the actual Blender files that is.

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:01:08 »
Is there a way you could take all that and make your own personal github with the folder layouts and everything so you just have to dl it into the directory? I cant imagine much of that will change for a while now. Just as long as you don't overwrite the actual Blender files that is.

I'll do that for IRL stuffs once I have some keyboard case designs configured. Those STLs will be available along with two IRL python/3D projects I have in mind. FTM everything I do in Manjaro or Windows is saved to an NTFS partition that will survive any OS meltdowns. I also use Google's cloud for Chrome so all my Linux/Blender/Fusion/references stuffs are at the ready. Lords know I've nuked quite a few OSs so far. I'll save Github from my 15+ GB/GiB's of Blender fails :)) Plus it would be easier to have one public directory instead of one public and one private.
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Re: keyboard render fu
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 18:45:16 »
Here is a sampling of that custom Gorton Modified-like font and CAD modeled SA keycap. Rendered in Blender. Square for instagram ^-^

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:56:28 »
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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 29 April 2017, 16:58:32 »
Becoming a bit more comfortable with 3D CAD modeling. Still using Blender for the scene and lighting. All critiques or comments are most welcome. I like feedback  :)


Ergodo x Render for the [IC] REBEL - SA keycap set.

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Re: Rendr Fu
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 16:16:11 »
Whoa, Vivaldi is showing a 20mb page load. Dayum, I need to compress some images this week! Yesterday I sketched out a raspberry pi enclosure w/wall mount to practice a bit more with Fusion 360. Not exactly a keyboard base or keyset mock up, and I used Fusion's internal render engine but it's progress.

The enclosure is supposed to twist onto the wall mount (under desk mount?) after the mount is screwed into place. In the spirit of showing my mistakes, I left the first renders as is without any modification to the enclosure.



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« Reply #80 on: Thu, 01 June 2017, 15:57:58 »
Nothing to show atm but I did finish a tenkey STL, and an updated TKL STL for SA and DSA. I made some DSA Cap STLs recently, hooray. Hoping to post a few image by the weekend. Next up: Cherry :confused:

edit - I lied. I have a few things to show I guess.

New DSA STLs by csmertx, on Flickr

Quick TKL Render Front by csmertx, on Flickr

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Quick Tenkey Render Side by csmertx, on Flickr

Edit again - dang. The TKL plate is trying to slide out of the casing. I model these things in pieces so all is well.
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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 05:17:17 »
Looking good homie!  :thumb:

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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:51:40 »
Looking good homie!  :thumb:

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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 02 June 2017, 21:21:03 »
Sorry to bump again. I just couldn't let that TKL mistake slide so here's a quick and dirty turntable render/video type thing

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« Reply #84 on: Mon, 05 June 2017, 12:34:45 »
OP image size reduced (80%-ish) and images are organized in grid fashion. If you have any suggestions of what I should model next I'm totally down for a challenge. HDRIs are next on the list
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 06 June 2017, 14:01:30 »
Last post for a while. Currently working on DSA caps with texture  :-X

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Does it take much longer to render with texture, compared to without?
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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 06 June 2017, 22:05:43 »
Does it take much longer to render with texture, compared to without?

It might take a while to render out massive scenes with lots of textures but for what I do I see no difference in render time. Finding the right image sometimes takes a while though.
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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 10:00:58 »
Some of these I can't even tell if they are real or not, awesome work!

I really need to pick apart a template as I can't start from scratch, way too much work and i'd get frustrated :P

Know of any places that have keyboards readily modelled?

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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:14:34 »
Some of these I can't even tell if they are real or not, awesome work!

I really need to pick apart a template as I can't start from scratch, way too much work and i'd get frustrated :P

Know of any places that have keyboards readily modelled?

Thank you. You could probably find some stuff on Thingiverse. I'm pretty sure that's where I picked up the switch and Cherry Stabilizer models. The first time I rendered keyboard stuff was with a full sized DSA cap keyboard by mastercheeseface from r/mk. Even that requires knowledge of lighting a scene in Blender. Haven't found Costar stabilizers yet so I guess that'll have to be modeled.

edit - Some of the earlier renders in the OP don't have switches, stabilizers or plates. But the shadows and reflections give that away when I zoomed in with Blender's camera, so I changed my process a bit to accommodate those necessities.
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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 16 June 2017, 13:00:23 »
Updated the OP and to do list. Basically removed all mention of free stuff. After reading an extensive conversation on IRC about GNU/GPL licensing (headache) I decided to forego any GitHub uploads. If you're watching this thread because you're waiting for a GitHub link filled with STLs, now might be a good time to unwatch this thread. 
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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 16 June 2017, 19:49:35 »
If you're watching this thread because you're waiting for a GitHub link filled with STLs, now might be a good time to unwatch this thread.

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 16 June 2017, 20:00:38 »
If you're watching this thread because you're waiting for a GitHub link filled with STLs, now might be a good time to unwatch this thread.

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Reading about GNU/GPL crushes my brain tho :-[
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 10:44:50 »
https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/radeon-prorender-for-blender-and-solidworks-now-available/

I couldn't keep this to myself. Holyyy, VEGA is about to disrupt :-*
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 31 July 2017, 18:34:21 »
I wanted to take a moment to apologize to matt3o regarding the Classis 65 render I did for Pwner.

Had I known ahead of time that the badge was so similar to the SA Retro banner I would never have rendered the image of the Classic 65 case. I guess I'll avoid rendering out cases for people in the foreseeable future. I was drawn into the likeness of that old Commodore PCII or PCII my folks bought when I was itty bitty. I'm sorry matt3o :(

On a more positive note, totally forgot to mention the reason I posted the DSA cap. Finally figured out how to double shot the legends for my renders. The fact that it had a bit a texture was just icing on the German chocolate cake. The anchor was thrown on because it was around my father's birthday (was a navy dude).

That DSA render will be my last image post for a bit while I save funds to update my gear. The way I see it rendering with older equipment kind of takes the fun out of the process.

edit - Turns out matt3o is fine with the badge design. Phew
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 31 July 2017, 21:44:07 »
nice work。

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 31 July 2017, 21:51:19 »
nice work。

Aw thanks. That ideograph fits my constant icon creativity block :))
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 16 August 2017, 18:32:22 »
I had this idea recently. Basically to combine two trackball mice to the sides of the bottom half of the HHKB Pro. 2.

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And it would look something like this.

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There would be two spheres cupped on both sides with a LMB positioned on the right side of the keyboard, similar to that of an Xbox controller.

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And on the other side would be the RMB positioned on the side in the same way.

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I like to keep the keyboard on my lap while typing, but every once in a while have to reach up to access the mouse. With this modification, that would not be a problem!

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 16 August 2017, 21:01:36 »
I had this idea recently. Basically to combine two trackball mice to the sides of the bottom half of the HHKB Pro. 2.

(Attachment Link)

And it would look something like this.

(Attachment Link)

There would be two spheres cupped on both sides with a LMB positioned on the right side of the keyboard, similar to that of an Xbox controller.

(Attachment Link)

And on the other side would be the RMB positioned on the side in the same way.

(Attachment Link)

I like to keep the keyboard on my lap while typing, but every once in a while have to reach up to access the mouse. With this modification, that would not be a problem!

Sorry, I think you wandered into the wrong thread. Maybe you're looking for this one? Does Your Ideal Mouse Exist?

I know the amount of information one can find via Geekhack is absolutely overwhelming so I can totally understand the confusion. Welcome to Geekhack! Hope you find what you need :)
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 17 August 2017, 14:19:36 »
I had this idea recently. Basically to combine two trackball mice to the sides of the bottom half of the HHKB Pro. 2.

(Attachment Link)

And it would look something like this.

(Attachment Link)

There would be two spheres cupped on both sides with a LMB positioned on the right side of the keyboard, similar to that of an Xbox controller.

(Attachment Link)

And on the other side would be the RMB positioned on the side in the same way.

(Attachment Link)

I like to keep the keyboard on my lap while typing, but every once in a while have to reach up to access the mouse. With this modification, that would not be a problem!

Sorry, I think you wandered into the wrong thread. Maybe you're looking for this one? Does Your Ideal Mouse Exist?

I know the amount of information one can find via Geekhack is absolutely overwhelming so I can totally understand the confusion. Welcome to Geekhack! Hope you find what you need :)

Thank you. I just wanted this idea to become a 3D model and thought you might want a challenge.

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 17 August 2017, 17:22:55 »
I had this idea recently. Basically to combine two trackball mice to the sides of the bottom half of the HHKB Pro. 2.

(Attachment Link)

And it would look something like this.

(Attachment Link)

There would be two spheres cupped on both sides with a LMB positioned on the right side of the keyboard, similar to that of an Xbox controller.

(Attachment Link)

And on the other side would be the RMB positioned on the side in the same way.

(Attachment Link)

I like to keep the keyboard on my lap while typing, but every once in a while have to reach up to access the mouse. With this modification, that would not be a problem!

Sorry, I think you wandered into the wrong thread. Maybe you're looking for this one? Does Your Ideal Mouse Exist?

I know the amount of information one can find via Geekhack is absolutely overwhelming so I can totally understand the confusion. Welcome to Geekhack! Hope you find what you need :)

Thank you. I just wanted this idea to become a 3D model and thought you might want a challenge.

I'm currently absorbing information for when I can afford the equipment I require for the creation of keyboard(s)/parts/flat packs/enclosures and beyond, but I appreciate the sentiment I really do. I'm sorry I can't be of service. I'm sure someone else would love to create a dual wielding mouse/trackball/keyboard setup that correlates with the production quality you desire. Thank you for posting, and good luck.
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 05:48:02 »
Hello, guys. Here's my feetless case. Rate pls

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #102 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 07:24:43 »
Hello, guys. Here's my feetless case. Rate pls

I haven't a clue of how to rate your case, sorry
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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:05:16 »
Hello, guys. Here's my feetless case. Rate pls

I haven't a clue of how to rate your case, sorry
So, I have some photos. What do you think? Printed v1 was with mistake in depth (looks like low-profile case). Now I'm remodelled case with proper depth. I'll print him asap.

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Re: Another 3D Keyboard Model Thread
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:25:57 »
Hello, guys. Here's my feetless case. Rate pls

I haven't a clue of how to rate your case, sorry
So, I have some photos. What do you think? Printed v1 was with mistake in depth (looks like low-profile case). Now I'm remodelled case with proper depth. I'll print him asap.

Looks decent but yet again I have no idea how to rate your case. You should create your own thread so others know your project rather than posting the same case design in multiple threads.
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