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Offline meltie

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« Reply #50 on: Sun, 17 January 2010, 14:19:28 »
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Attach a cable to the keyboard, make sure it is discrete so people won't think you are crazy for locking down that "$10 keyboard" that is really $300 OMG that is so expensive!!


I will probably do that. If I know how expensive that thing is, random thief may know it, too.

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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 17 January 2010, 14:59:24 »
Just unplug it at the keyboard and stick it in one of your desk drawers at night.
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 17 January 2010, 15:15:53 »
And don't forget to lock the drawer.
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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 04:05:48 »
Wahey! Another troll!

EDIT: Oh, just a spambot...
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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 12:39:58 »
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But I noticed that it doesn't sit evenly on my desk and wiggles a bit, but since I have the same problem with my Das and my G84 numpad, I believe that is the fault of IKEA rather than Topre.

Actually my 87U has the same problem, it does not quite sit flush aginst my desk. We're not talking about a huge gap, just a tiny wiggle if you press on the lower-right corner. I've put a tissue under the upper-left corner - problem fixed.

The desk surface is flat btw, my Filco sits on it, and it absolutely won't budge.
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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 13:27:23 »
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it's flat as Nicole Richie before breast surgery.

I'd be concerned.  Ribs aren't very flat.


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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 13:43:09 »
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Wahey! Another troll!

EDIT: Oh, just a spambot...


Take a look at who just said that.

Most of the comments you direct at me are quite nasty in nature. Why do you go through all this effort to be disrespectful and present this community gathering place as a hostile environment? I have found your arrogance and immaturity to have been quite excessive recently.

If you don't like me, that's OK. Everyone is entitled to the right to have their own opinion. But that doesn't mean that everyone's entitled to the right to be mean. If you hate me that much, just put me on your ignore list instead of causing a scene.

Your comments are what I would expect to frequent n a web site for young children, all bickering and brawling.
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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 13:49:10 »
That comment was directed at an advertising spambot whose posts have since been deleted. You can see another example of people referencing the now deleted posts here.

And quite frankly good Sir, you are the probably the least qualified person around here to give lectures on immaturity.
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 13:55:20 »
*Throws some popcorn in the microwave*


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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 14:07:59 »
*tumbleweed rolls by*

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 14:10:30 »
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That comment was directed at an advertising spambot whose posts have since been deleted. You can see another example of people referencing the now deleted posts here.

And quite frankly good Sir, you are the probably the least qualified person around here to give lectures on immaturity.

I understand. I thought you were calling me the spam bot. Since the root of the problem was a simple misunderstanding, that book is closed.

I'm not the least qualified person to give lectures on maturity. I may not share all of your opinions, but that does not mean I'm some old 10-year-old coming here to cause trouble.

So how about you put yourself in a better position to talk about maturity and try to be politer. I'm not sure if you mean to be unpleasant, but that's what's happening.  I don't want to start some war or anything; all I wish to do is provide information to others based on my experience, and engage in interesting discussions.

So, do you want to close this book?
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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 14:11:04 »
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*tumbleweed rolls by*

Damnit.  I was hoping for more.
 
 
 
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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 14:58:11 »
Oh man Where is LaL when I want to have some fun :( But guys come on at least argue about keyboards it's more fun that way and we can all join in :)
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 15:04:05 »
Lal had a traumatic experience with a Topre when he was young.

Link.

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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 15:36:10 »
Here's something to start off a keyboard discussion:

Did you know that IBM spent roughly $25 apiece to manufacture its Model M keyboards?
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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 15:54:41 »
interesting... how did you find out?

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 19:07:44 »
I read it in a newspaper article Webwit posted a while ago.
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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 21:11:31 »
So you mean they actually made a large profit on them back when they sold them new for around $200-$250. Or is that just the cost of direct labor and parts (my bet this is the case) the overhead (buildings, eng, equipment, R&D,  ect...) really add to the actual cost of a product. This is one of the things that really makes me laugh about all these wild ass guess as to how much something costs to produce they never take into account how much it cost you to actually design the product or how much all the over head costs (shipping, packaging, warehousing, ect...)
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 22:14:45 »
Model M's used to cost 200 bucks new?  Really?!?!?
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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 03:49:26 »
When they first came out they did. They dropped to around $100 around the time Lexmark started making them.

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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 06:09:20 »
I think I got the articles mixed up then. There was an article on-line from the early 1990's about IBM getting hurt by a demand for lower-priced computers, which included a brief section about the cost of their keyboards and other periferals, and its effect on the price of whole computer units.

It sounds probable that replacement Model M's and F's cost a lot of money, since there was probably little production dedicated to field replacement.
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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 09:22:28 »
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Lal had a traumatic experience with a Topre when he was young.


None that I remember.  And actually I think Topres are exceptionally nice keyboards.  For rubber domes.  They're just waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced.  And they're rubber dome >:)
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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 09:29:55 »
*Goes and gets the popcorn he popped yesterday*


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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 10:37:13 »
You don't buy a car for braking. ;P
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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 12:48:01 »
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*Goes and gets the popcorn he popped yesterday*


Na I'm not in the mood to play today. Yesterday I was. So I will let LaL slide this time :) Besides he did say it was a good board it's just that he is too cheap to buy one that is all so no big deal.
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:20:20 »
Damnit!  I really want some popcorn.


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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:27:34 »
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None that I remember.  And actually I think Topres are exceptionally nice keyboards.  For rubber domes.  They're just waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced.  And they're rubber dome >:)


Nobody is forcing you to buy them. But, I bet they're top-notch quality and probably have one of the best warrantees out there. But that doesn't mean they're worth hundreds of dollars.

I don't really understand what makes the Topre keyboards so much better than any good rubber dome keyboard, but there's got to be something special if people lay big bucks for them.
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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:42:25 »
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You don't buy a car for braking. ;P

But when you do buy a car, you're broke!
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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:43:07 »
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But when you do buy a car, you're broke!

Yet, another win.


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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:54:07 »
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Damnit!  I really want some popcorn.


I got some cub scout Kettle corn sitting right here on my desk. Much better to munch on than candy and I have to admit much more addicting.
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 13:56:56 »
I with you.  I keep a ton of popcorn at work.  It's a great, fairly healthy snack.


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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 14:53:15 »
That's pretty much how I make popcorn (minus the curry powder).  I use a hot air popper, though.


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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 14:54:09 »
I like potato chips better than popcorn. Especially the nice, crunchy kettle chips.
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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:00:49 »
I see you've made a Kishy list. I'm surprised you didn't put me on there.
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« Reply #84 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:04:19 »
is it too early for popcorn? (7:33am).............oh, and jerky!
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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:04:57 »
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I see you've made a Kishy list. I'm surprised you didn't put me on there.


Not only a Kishy list but apparently a list of Kishy as well.
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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:06:32 »
Mmm... Bob'b Habanero Kettle Chips.