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Offline supamesican

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Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 06:22:02 »
Got a model F xt last night and need one. This one(http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XT-AT-to-USB-Soarers-Converter-Remapping-Macros-NKRO-Support-IBM-Model-F-/281476427201) is for xt to usb and would work but I perfer ps2 if possible.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:00:50 »
probably not possible unless you plugged a USB-to-PS/2 (male) adapter at the other end
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:43:48 »
I have one of those converters & it works very well, even preserving N-key rollover over USB. I've never tried adapting it to a PS/2 port, although my motherboard has them. There is just no advantage that I can see in connecting this converter to PS/2 instead of the USB port it's designed for.
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 18:24:49 »
Okay, I'll try just this and if I feel like I need the direct hardware access I'll just get a usb to ps2 thing

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 11:43:03 »
I've tried putting a USB to PS/2 adapter on one. It didn't work. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 12:08:57 »
It may need an active converter instead of passive then, but I did hear about a way to soldier my own ps2 on to the xt so eh I may do that when I get a spare, for now usb will work.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 13:13:47 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

https://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke18xtat.html
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:18:36 »
I've tried putting a USB to PS/2 adapter on one. It didn't work. Your mileage may vary.
Those small purple ones are for keyboards that are able to talk USB or PS/2 but has only one cable.
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Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:28:07 »
Actually I think the problem is that Soarers converter is a USB serial device and a USB HID device. Simple adapters can't tell the difference, you'll need something with more active logic.
If this is the case it might work with the TMK firmware as that IIRC only comes up as a single generic HID device.
« Last Edit: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:31:07 by acid2000 »

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:30:46 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

https://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke18xtat.html

Nope, Soarers converter does a lot more. PS/2 and USB are very different. You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:34:57 »

You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.


Putting an AT-to-PS/2 adapter on the XT cable would fit mechanically but would not actually work.
"Starting in 2011, the deficits again started to shrink. During Obama’s term  the deficit was reduced by $900 Billion  before finally in 2015 the GOP managed to wrangle a “reconciliation” bill out of Obama where he again cut corporate taxes, as well as made permanent some of George W. Bush’s original tax cuts. This is the year everything reversed. Before this, under Clinton, Bush and Obama the deficit in almost every year was gradually decreasing. The balance we had of taxes and the economy was bringing the deficit down, the money coming in was slowly catching up with the money going out until 2015. Trump’s subsequent tax cut has continued the new trend even after the rest of Bush’s cuts have since expired. Obama had an average GDP of 2.3%, with 11.6 million jobs created and unemployment peaking at 10% in 2009, then falling to 4.3% in 2016. If we had continued on that downward deficit track, we would have again reached balance and another surplus in 2017-2018.
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:36:56 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

https://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke18xtat.html

Nope, Soarers converter does a lot more. PS/2 and USB are very different. You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.
The OP asked for an XT -> PS/2 solution.  Disregard my comments on USB compatibility if it's inaccurate.
Keyboards owned: IBM Selectric | 3278 | 3101 | 5251 | Model F XT | AT | 122 (6110344) | Model M 1390120 | 1390131 | 1391472 | 1392464 (DisplayWriter SSK) | 1395100 (SSK) | Honeywell RD IBM 09F4230 | Leading Edge DC-2014 (Blue Alps) | Chicony 5891 (Monterey Blue) | E&E-101 (KPT Blue) | BTC 5100 | 5100C | 5369 | DEC VT100 (Hi-tek Linear) | Burroughs TP109 (Hall) | Realforce 87 (55g)

Keyboards wanted: IBM Model F 104 (Unsaver) | Model M 1391401