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Offline supamesican

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Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 06:22:02 »
Got a model F xt last night and need one. This one(http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XT-AT-to-USB-Soarers-Converter-Remapping-Macros-NKRO-Support-IBM-Model-F-/281476427201) is for xt to usb and would work but I perfer ps2 if possible.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:00:50 »
probably not possible unless you plugged a USB-to-PS/2 (male) adapter at the other end
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:43:48 »
I have one of those converters & it works very well, even preserving N-key rollover over USB. I've never tried adapting it to a PS/2 port, although my motherboard has them. There is just no advantage that I can see in connecting this converter to PS/2 instead of the USB port it's designed for.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 May 2016, 18:24:49 »
Okay, I'll try just this and if I feel like I need the direct hardware access I'll just get a usb to ps2 thing

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 11:43:03 »
I've tried putting a USB to PS/2 adapter on one. It didn't work. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 12:08:57 »
It may need an active converter instead of passive then, but I did hear about a way to soldier my own ps2 on to the xt so eh I may do that when I get a spare, for now usb will work.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 13:13:47 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:18:36 »
I've tried putting a USB to PS/2 adapter on one. It didn't work. Your mileage may vary.
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Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:28:07 »
Actually I think the problem is that Soarers converter is a USB serial device and a USB HID device. Simple adapters can't tell the difference, you'll need something with more active logic.
If this is the case it might work with the TMK firmware as that IIRC only comes up as a single generic HID device.
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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:30:46 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

https://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke18xtat.html

Nope, Soarers converter does a lot more. PS/2 and USB are very different. You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:34:57 »

You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.


Putting an AT-to-PS/2 adapter on the XT cable would fit mechanically but would not actually work.
Were our leaders just stupid? Well, maybe. But there’s a deeper explanation of the profoundly self-destructive behavior of Trump and his allies: They were all members of America’s cult of selfishness. You see, the modern US right is committed to the proposition that greed is good, that we’re all better off when individuals engage in the untrammeled pursuit of self-interest. In their vision, unrestricted profit maximization by businesses and unregulated consumer choice is the recipe for a good society.
Support for this proposition is, if anything, more emotional than intellectual. I’ve long been struck by the intensity of right-wing anger against relatively trivial regulations, like bans on phosphates in detergent and efficiency standards for light bulbs. It’s the principle of the thing: Many on the right are enraged at any suggestion that their actions should take other people’s welfare into account. This rage is sometimes portrayed as love of freedom. But people who insist on the right to pollute are notably unbothered by, say, federal agents tear-gassing peaceful protesters. What they call “freedom” is actually absence of responsibility.
Rational policy in a pandemic, however, is all about taking responsibility. The main reason you shouldn’t go to a bar and should wear a mask isn’t self-protection, although that’s part of it; the point is that congregating in noisy, crowded spaces or exhaling droplets into shared air puts others at risk. And that’s the kind of thing America’s right just hates, hates to hear. Anger at any suggestion of social responsibility also helps explain the looming fiscal catastrophe.  – Paul Krugman 2020-07-28 NYT

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Re: Do they make Soarer's Converter for xt to ps/2?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:36:56 »
I think Soarer's converter converts the key encoding; the PS/2 and USB differ only in the shape of the connector, not the electrical signals involved.  In any event:

https://www.hagstromelectronics.com/products/ke18xtat.html

Nope, Soarers converter does a lot more. PS/2 and USB are very different. You might be getting confused with AT DIN adapters and PS/2 a those are compatible.
The OP asked for an XT -> PS/2 solution.  Disregard my comments on USB compatibility if it's inaccurate.
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