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Offline QuincyJones

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Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 05:32:28 »
I just can't understand how "awesome" / "cool" / "neato" / "topper" having a keyboard which keys light up is. Really, I do not get it - maybe the chicks really dig it as you're part of the elite now? It  is just utterly useless and moronic.

The LED's cause a distraction at the bottom of eye-line and are of no use for typing in the dark (really for the health of your eyes, don't use a computer in the dark). They were a fad at best in the mainstream, and are only continued by factories that are equipped to make such keyboards and rather than retool these factories at tremendous cost, it's cheaper to remarket the product to a new audience - essentially vulnerable easily influenced kids.

So, pray tell; just why do you want a keyboard with stupid LED's under the keys?
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 05:50:53 »
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 05:53:23 »
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 09:08:12 »
It makes it easier to see in the dark? It looks nice?
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:43:32 »
It's really just a matter of preference.  I know where the keys are so I don't need them.  But I do like white LED's on a low setting.  In the dark it may be difficult to find a single key with one finger.  Though I don't care much for the boards RGB boards that can glow an assortment of colors.

The fancy blinking and scrolling settings are sort of cool, but that is distracting.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 12:09:20 »
If you don't need/want them don't use/buy them and more importantly don't care about them. You could use the same kind of logic on mechs in general, or custom keycaps, or custom keyboards and so on. Not giving a **** is always the better option than complaining about stuff that is 100% preference (like most of the choices/topics/whatever in this community).

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 12:31:05 »
<sorry I completely misunderstood this - blame me never having used modern keyboards :p >
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 13:14:25 »
A long time ago, when I was playing Wing Commander 2, I wanted a keyboard with the keys lit because it was nice to play in a somewhat dark room, which made it difficult to see the keys.  It would have been a great help if the keys had been lit because every now and then, you needed to press one, like to target another enemy or to communicate with your wingguys.  I'd look at the keyboard for that because my hands usually weren't already on it, and one was on the joystick anyway.

Unfortunately, nobody made such keyboards at that time, so I sent an email to Cherry and suggested that they make one.  They answered that they don't make lit keyboards and aren't planning on making any.

That's how lit keyboards were invented.  I should have obtained a patent on it ...


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 13:23:33 »
Good question. I am dedinitely not a fan of rgb backlighting or any of that gamery ****.


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 13:46:12 »
PS: Can someone please fix the verification images?  The letters on them are so messed up and small that they are unreadable without holding a magnifying glass to the screen.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 13:48:05 »
Along with this, which DIY PCBs allow in-switch PCBs?  Gons for sure, but not sure on the Phantom.  It appears not.  Any others available with in-switch LEDs?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 13:57:39 »
Along with this, which DIY PCBs allow in-switch PCBs?  Gons for sure, but not sure on the Phantom.  It appears not.  Any others available with in-switch LEDs?

That would be nice.  These unreadable images make it no fun to post anything.

Seriously, I really do have to use the magnifying glass or I couldn't post at all, and I still many times can't read them.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 14:14:58 »
Backlighting is not a fad. Remember: most people do not own the typical Geekhacker's black-on-black Cherry-profile Moogle-included thick doubleshot PBT Nordic keysets, where any LEDs just serve as decoration. Most people also do not touchtype. Correspondingly - and unsurprisingly - then, mainstream backlit keyboards come with shine-through caps, where the LEDs allow you to - wait for it - see the letters in the dark.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 14:51:48 »
LEDs in a keyboard are just an extreme intent to revamp a simple and practical input device and transform it into something close to an ornament, it is like the travesty version of a keyboard, a keyboard trying to pass as a fancy thing, a working input device in disguise. This thing along with other trends like artisan's are the side effects of the culture that is sensitive to the importance of keyboards as part of the modern worker's workplace in the digital communications era, it is just another unfortunate diversification of our attention in high quality input devices. For some, the keyboard is our daily working tool, for others is a toy that needs some fancy clothes.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 16:17:01 »
For some, the keyboard is our daily working tool, for others is a toy that needs some fancy clothes.

What's the last time you've seen a decent keyboard at a work place where it is a daily working tool?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 16:26:33 »
For some, the keyboard is our daily working tool, for others is a toy that needs some fancy clothes.
What's the last time you've seen a decent keyboard at a work place where it is a daily working tool?
You should have added "aside from your own keyboard" maybe…?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 16:33:52 »
For some, the keyboard is our daily working tool, for others is a toy that needs some fancy clothes.
What's the last time you've seen a decent keyboard at a work place where it is a daily working tool?
You should have added "aside from your own keyboard" maybe…?

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I just couldn't bring myself to take the Model M or the Unicomp ...  No way!
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:33:48 »
At my last job everyone used Sun Type 7 which was surprisingly very decent for being a rubber dome. At the job before that most people used Logitech Illuminated which many argue has the best scissor-switches.

Over a few years, I have met three guys who used Kinesis Advantage at work, most recently about a month ago. I have also spotted a couple of Das Keyboard (of various editions) and Goldtouch.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 19:09:41 »
I get where you are coming from OP but wait till you see those mice with little screens on them.  :blank:

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:06:41 »
I get where you are coming from OP but wait till you see those mice with little screens on them.  :blank:

What do mice need screens for?

I love my trackball --- and I hate mice ...

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:11:58 »
why do people spend $500 on artisian keys?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:38:19 »
I get where you are coming from OP but wait till you see those mice with little screens on them.  :blank:

What do mice need screens for?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:44:09 »
Although as a touch typist, I don't personally feel the need for backlighting, I can see the appeal of backlit keyboards in low-light environments for hunt-and-peck typists.  The WASD Code comes to mind.  The other situation where backlighting is most obviously a necessity is for SUPER OP PRO MLG GAMERZ I ****ED UR MOM N00B GET REKT ***IT!!!1!
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 18:15:46 »
If you don't need/want them don't use/buy them and more importantly don't care about them. You could use the same kind of logic on mechs in general, or custom keycaps, or custom keyboards and so on. Not giving a **** is always the better option than complaining about stuff that is 100% preference (like most of the choices/topics/whatever in this community).

On the contrary—seeing a topic that questions the sense of something like an illuminated, animated keyboard, and not reading and replying to it in a pointlessly "you shouldn't ask questions or express opinions here" way, would be the "better option". In a democracy, that is. If you decide to move to Russia so you can be told what you can and can't inquire or express opinions about, maybe you'll post here about it and let us know how much better it is.

 
A long time ago, when I was playing Wing Commander 2, I wanted a keyboard with the keys lit because it was nice to play in a somewhat dark room, which made it difficult to see the keys.  It would have been a great help if the keys had been lit because every now and then, you needed to press one... I'd look at the keyboard for that because my hands usually weren't already on it... That's how lit keyboards were invented.

No, it's not why they were invented. They were invented because keyboard makers needed a new gimmick to promote sales. Till then, the idea of illuminating something you're not supposed to look at—much less, adding disco effects to it—seemed silly. Then some hardware exec realized, "Hey, people who build custom PCs like stuff that lights up. Why don't we make keyboards that light up?" So they test-marketed them, to avoid the possibility that they'd be ridiculed and their brand damaged.

But since primates are instinctively attracted to bright, shiny things (apparently because they remind us of our need for water), people started buying them, even though it made about as much sense as embedding LEDs in the steering wheel of your car.

The illuminated, flashing keyboard thing also capitalized on computer ignorance. Since the sci-fi movie serials of the '30s, Hollywood has exploited the image of computers as mystifying, super-complicated devices covered with blinking lights, strange controls and cryptic displays. Fun 'n' fanciful, for sure—but it also had the effect of making whole generations of people afraid to learn about computers because you had to be a scientist or mad genius to understand them.

And as far as adding little signal lights to a keyboard to avoid learning where the keys are... No one can tell you or anyone else how to use the tools you own. But it's not necessary to "reinvent the wheel" by hunting and pecking, either. Keyboard technology, the computers that keyboards are used to control, and the best ways to use them, are the result of decades of incredibly hard work by incredibly smart people who, in many cases, dedicated their lives to developing those devices and methods.

"Reinventing the wheel" means ignoring all that and deciding to do it your way. In some cases—for example, in art, music, writing, architecture—a certain amount of "wheel-reinventing" is good, as it opens the way to new ideas that are equally valuable.

But typing, especially on a standard keyboard, has pretty much been innovated out. Insisting on "reinventing" something like that is like building your own toaster. Yes, it can be done—but if you're not doing it to make some kind of artistic statement, you're just wasting a lot of your present and future time.

Touch typing isn't that hard. If you can walk and talk, those are much harder and more complicated skills than typing. Yes, it takes some time to learn to use a keyboard without looking at your hands. It takes time to learn any really useful skill. But if you have the patience and long-range vision to do it, you'll save that time over and over for the rest of your typing life.

And of course if gaming's important to you, you'll be a much better at that too. Watch some videos of professional gamers—how many of them do you see taking their eyes off the display to see which keys they're pressing? You'll be like a bicycle racer who learns to ride without having to keep looking down at his feet to see which one's up and which one's down.  :?)


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LOL. Indeed, for the complete effect, you need the console of winky, blinky lights all around you too.


LEDs in a keyboard are just an extreme intent to revamp a simple and practical input device and transform it into something close to an ornament, it is like the travesty version of a keyboard, a keyboard trying to pass as a fancy thing, a working input device in disguise... For some, the keyboard is our daily working tool, for others is a toy that needs some fancy clothes.

While I wouldn't take quite such a draconian stance—in a free society, people can spend their money on whatever goofy things they wish—I agree: When you get to the point where you want to reinforce bad computing habits by adorning your hardware with glitzy distractions, you may want to reexamine how much you're valuing your limited time here on earth.


Backlighting is not a fad. Remember: most people do not own the typical Geekhacker's black-on-black Cherry-profile Moogle-included thick doubleshot PBT Nordic keysets, where any LEDs just serve as decoration. Most people also do not touchtype. Correspondingly - and unsurprisingly - then, mainstream backlit keyboards come with shine-through caps, where the LEDs allow you to - wait for it - see the letters in the dark.

I, too, don't get the fancy-caps thing. (Spending hundreds of bucks on a  little piece of plastic with a scary face carved into seems like a neurotic fetish.) But if you use a keyboard how it's designed to be used, you don't need your letters to glow in the dark any more than a concert pianist needs the names of the notes printed on the keys of a piano.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 19:35:42 »
I'm putting in-key LEDs in all my builds.  Screw it.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 19:42:42 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 20:26:01 »
Noob question.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:21:47 »
Touch typing isn't that hard. If you can walk and talk, those are much harder and more complicated skills than typing. Yes, it takes some time to learn to use a keyboard without looking at your hands. It takes time to learn any really useful skill. But if you have the patience and long-range vision to do it, you'll save that time over and over for the rest of your typing life.

Yes, well, I can touch type and I still use a backlit keyboard. Sure I can try finding the homing bumps to get back to homerow but when I'm in the middle of playing a game it's far easier to glance down for half a second then scrape my fingers across the keys trying to find which key I need.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 05:42:53 »
Guys, I'd had too much coffee when I wrote all that. I meant it, pretty much—but normally, when not under the influence of powerful stimulants, I wouldn't be so overbearing.

As the guy said in The Wizard of Oz, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

LOL—I just realized that in that clip, he's operating a console with blinking lights! Complete coincidence, no kidding.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:12:04 »
The real reason is that no one wants to really complete a project board, they want to keep on soldering.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:18:58 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:20:19 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:29:18 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

Right! The countered of the cross pattern at the top of the switch stem has the best ergonomics for the finger tips.  :thumb:

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:31:13 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

Right! The countered of the cross pattern at the top of the switch stem has the best ergonomics for the finger tips.  :thumb:
Honestly I say forget keycaps entirely, bring on colorful typing gloves in various materials.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:40:56 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

Right! The countered of the cross pattern at the top of the switch stem has the best ergonomics for the finger tips.  :thumb:
Honestly I say forget keycaps entirely, bring on colorful typing gloves in various materials.

All the typists should wear long nails and these tips to type directly on switches stems.


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:45:03 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

Right! The countered of the cross pattern at the top of the switch stem has the best ergonomics for the finger tips.  :thumb:
Honestly I say forget keycaps entirely, bring on colorful typing gloves in various materials.

All the typists should wear long nails and these tips to type directly on switches stems.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:48:12 »
Why do people insist on putting stupid keys on top of their beautiful grids of LEDs?

It’s a really weird gimmick to want to be able to mash buttons on top of a beautiful lite brite array.

You cannot type on a grid o LEDs, can you?
Sure you can. Keycaps are just a gimmick, mx switches work just fine without them.

Right! The countered of the cross pattern at the top of the switch stem has the best ergonomics for the finger tips.  :thumb:
Honestly I say forget keycaps entirely, bring on colorful typing gloves in various materials.

All the typists should wear long nails and these tips to type directly on switches stems.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 12:08:11 »
I just can't understand how "awesome" / "cool" / "neato" / "topper" having a keyboard which keys light up is.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:02:30 »
Why is a keyboard useful?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:11:37 »
No one should buy anything unless you understand it.

This is one of the many reasons I am cautious to sell things to just anyone and why I use a disclaimer that says understand what you are buying. :D

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:16:01 »
Why is a keyboard useful?

I know, right?  All you need is an on-screen keyboard, a mouse, and a good physiotherapist!
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:27:33 »
Why is a keyboard useful?

I know, right?  All you need is an on-screen keyboard, a mouse, and a good physiotherapist!

Yeah, when you have only that, you sure need one.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 15:40:51 »
So why are keyboards useful?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 16:10:03 »
So why are keyboards useful?

Who said so? Keyboards are ornaments with lights and cool colors for you to stare at.