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Offline toniwonkanobi

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 07:48:39 »
Someone in the Alps Appreciation Thread was nice enough to thicken up those bottom spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts in AT101.dxf file in this thread's first post (the same file which Hasu was also kind enough to say he'd edit eventually). I assume Hasu is waiting on my report regarding the RShift stabilizers (which I can do once I get those dang keycaps in hand).

Everything looks good to me, though:


Offline toniwonkanobi

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #201 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 22:40:27 »
Okay hasu et al:

I can confirm that the AT101 plate file handles the SGI "Granite" RShift without issue:









The only other issue (besides the aforementioned thinness of the plate near spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts) is that the switches are quite loose in the plate. Anyone else encounter this issue?

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #202 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 08:50:51 »
Thanks for the confrimation on Right shift stab.
So Right Shift stab cutouts on "Dell AT101" plate work with stab wire from Dell and SGI 101. Good to know.

Please post your result when you get new plate from next iteration!

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Offline toniwonkanobi

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #203 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 08:53:57 »
Thanks for the confrimation on Right shift stab.
So Right Shift stab cutouts on "Dell AT101" plate work with stab wire from Dell and SGI 101. Good to know.

Please post your result when you get new plate from next iteration!



Thanks for the well-wishes man :)

What do you think about switch looseness? Any ideas on how to rectify? The most play seems to be in a vertical dimension (left/ride side-to-side play is almost non-existent). Could the vertical dimension be reduced by ~0.1mm without messing up the entire layout? (Or should I just be happy enough and rely on the switches being soldered to the PCB underneath for stability?)

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #204 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 10:07:08 »
I guess manufacturing of you plate just went wrong or with bad tolerance for some reason.
I think people tend to go with stainless steel for plate, while your plate matrial is aluminum. This may cause torelance, perhaps?

What did LaserBoost say for explanation when you get refund from them?
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Offline toniwonkanobi

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #205 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 10:10:03 »
I guess manufacturing of you plate just went wrong or with bad tolerance for some reason.
I think people tend to go with stainless steel for plate, while your plate matrial is aluminum. This may cause torelance, perhaps?

What did LaserBoost say for explanation when you get refund from them?

Could be. They said it was a one-off mistake, more or less. They also said that their tolerances are ~0.11mm, which, in regards to their inability to produce that thin strip of aluminum along the bottom of the plate on the spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts, could speak to your suggestion that the manufacturing was just bad in this case. I was wearing of going with stainless steel, as I am planning a brown Alps tray-mount build, and I thought the stainless plate would wreak havoc on my fingers for extended typing sessions. Thoughts?

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #206 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 08:15:37 »
Has anyone made a plate file for the Focus FK-2001 (oddly-stabilized BAE and split right shift)?

Offline envyy24

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #207 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 16:16:56 »
Someone in the Alps Appreciation Thread was nice enough to thicken up those bottom spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts in AT101.dxf file in this thread's first post (the same file which Hasu was also kind enough to say he'd edit eventually). I assume Hasu is waiting on my report regarding the RShift stabilizers (which I can do once I get those dang keycaps in hand).

Everything looks good to me, though:


Hi there, i am looking to make a plate based on the AT 101 file shared in there. I see that you have a newer and perhaps more accurate version. my plan is to make it by jr4 with jlc, just wonder if that would make any different and how are the stabs for the space bar on your plate? Are they fit nicely? A friend voiced a concern that the cut is too close to the edge. Many thanks

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #208 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 22:09:04 »
Someone in the Alps Appreciation Thread was nice enough to thicken up those bottom spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts in AT101.dxf file in this thread's first post (the same file which Hasu was also kind enough to say he'd edit eventually). I assume Hasu is waiting on my report regarding the RShift stabilizers (which I can do once I get those dang keycaps in hand).

Everything looks good to me, though:


Hi there, i am looking to make a plate based on the AT 101 file shared in there. I see that you have a newer and perhaps more accurate version. my plan is to make it by jr4 with jlc, just wonder if that would make any different and how are the stabs for the space bar on your plate? Are they fit nicely? A friend voiced a concern that the cut is too close to the edge. Many thanks

I'm not sure what jr4 and ilc are :/

But in regards to the spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts. Yes: they are super close to the bottom edge of the plate. The version I had someone alter for me moved those spacebar stabilizer clip cutout locations like 0.3mm toward the top of the board, to create sufficient thickness of aluminum along the bottom edge. The stabilizer clip cutouts aren't super ultra tight, but they're tight enough around the stabilizer clips.

Offline envyy24

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #209 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 09:03:31 »


I'm not sure what jr4 and ilc are :/

But in regards to the spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts. Yes: they are super close to the bottom edge of the plate. The version I had someone alter for me moved those spacebar stabilizer clip cutout locations like 0.3mm toward the top of the board, to create sufficient thickness of aluminum along the bottom edge. The stabilizer clip cutouts aren't super ultra tight, but they're tight enough around the stabilizer clips.

Typo, FR4 is what i meant, basically the material for pcb. and jlcpcb is a go to company for making your pcb and fr4 plate. do you have the file for the altered version to share?

Offline toniwonkanobi

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #210 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 10:33:15 »


I'm not sure what jr4 and ilc are :/

But in regards to the spacebar stabilizer clip cutouts. Yes: they are super close to the bottom edge of the plate. The version I had someone alter for me moved those spacebar stabilizer clip cutout locations like 0.3mm toward the top of the board, to create sufficient thickness of aluminum along the bottom edge. The stabilizer clip cutouts aren't super ultra tight, but they're tight enough around the stabilizer clips.

Typo, FR4 is what i meant, basically the material for pcb. and jlcpcb is a go to company for making your pcb and fr4 plate. do you have the file for the altered version to share?

The file is attached in that post I hyperlinked previously: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45456.msg2926121#msg2926121

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Offline envyy24

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #211 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 12:20:59 »
Ah yes!. Excellent, thank you very much, i will give it a shot, i hope different in material wont make a huge difference.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #212 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 10:11:13 »
Anyone want to sanity check my ISO AEK Alps plate?  ^-^ Planning to do a tiny run to verify function. Due to the shifted row in AEK ISO, only three of the mounting posts in tray mount cases is usable, still works ok tho, and it's not a problem in fancy rubber band/worm cases.
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Is and will be available in my AEKISO60 repo: https://github.com/4pplet/AEKISO60
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