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Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:54:45 »
This got to be the most annoying design choice for my HHKB, it makes using custom sets in the future so limited because of some weird need to have an odd spacebar size.


For shame topre.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:55:27 »
Why would you use a custom set though? Stock HHKB caps + PBT spacebar = best.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 23:56:51 »
Why would you use a custom set though? Stock HHKB caps + PBT spacebar = best.
I beg to differ.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 00:05:24 »
Why would you use a custom set though? Stock HHKB caps + PBT spacebar = best.
I beg to differ.
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PBT > ABS tho. Also the stock white space bar looks fine there :P

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 00:41:26 »
ikr if it was 7u it would make the entire board more symmetrical too

however there's one other thing that topre has done that grinds my gears and that's the rotated stem on the left ctrl key on realforces.... and not only is it rotated, the entire stem and stem housing is different which makes silencing with rings ineffective

what were they thinking

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 02:30:23 »
Why would you use a custom set though? Stock HHKB caps + PBT spacebar = best.
I beg to differ.
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PBT > ABS tho. Also the stock white space bar looks fine there :P
Sets like skeletor will look out of place, and SA sets are for the most part a no go. SAD!

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 03:15:51 »
Stock topre caps are best, Girlshark has spokeded

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 06:08:01 »
When designed they probably never imagined that enthusiasts would swap sliders and then replace all the keycaps.
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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 06:09:51 »
Seriously. 6u is a ****ing enormous spacebar. For shame indeed. They should be 2.5u x 1.5u instead.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 08:43:47 »
Seriously. 6u is a ****ing enormous spacebar. For shame indeed. They should be 2.5u x 1.5u instead.

F that noise.

10u spacebar or BUST, I say.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 10:26:10 »
Stop making your hhkbs **** with cherry **** on them. Problem solved.
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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 10:32:30 »
Seriously. 6u is a ****ing enormous spacebar. For shame indeed. They should be 2.5u x 1.5u instead.

F that noise.

10u spacebar or BUST, I say.





edit: my bad its only 9u......lol
« Last Edit: Tue, 19 July 2016, 10:34:31 by redbanshee »

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Re: Whose Idea at topreI think was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 11:37:59 »
I think it's adequately sized. Both thumbs rest on there easily and it doesn't take as much room. In fact, we can probably make it even smaller. 5.5u?

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 19 July 2016, 13:16:52 »
For those of us who prefer a sensible layout and keycaps with more personality than an IBM model M (from which all of today's boring-ass cylindrical keycaps derive), Topre will (hopefully) have their Filco-layout, MX-stemmed board out by the end of the year (6.25u spacebars and SA keycap compatibility, yay!). This won't help the 60%ers out there, but it is nevertheless a step in the right direction.

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 21 July 2016, 16:59:53 »
I purposely chose to use a 6u space bar on my Phantom, using the same key sizes as Topre Realforce and HHKB.
Windows keys are small, Ctrl and Alt keys are 1.5u and exactly where you expect them. That makes the space bar 6u.

6u is the best. Other keyboards are wrong.
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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 06:53:14 »
Your face is wrong!

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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 14:00:55 »
You mean my posts should not be in Helvetica?
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Re: Whose Idea at topre was it to make all spacebars 6u?!
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 18:46:42 »
You mean my posts should not be in Helvetica?
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