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Bars or Scoops or Both?

Bars
78 (41.1%)
Scoops
64 (33.7%)
Both
19 (10%)
Either
19 (10%)
Neither
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Bars or Scoops?
« on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 06:58:15 »
Now I've been lurking here for quite sometime and just started posting a lot more frequently and am curious as to what the consensus is here:

Are you guys a lover of homing keys being bars or scoops or nipples? Or does it even matter?

I personally love scoops. They give a much more uniform look to the keycap set, they feel great, and are much more noticeable for me due to my typing style. One down fall I will note is that in profiles like DSA or SA where bars aren't available, I find there to be an inconsistency in the lettering that tends to bug me. (But they feel like butt to type on anyways) :))

What do you guys think?
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 07:42:41 »
Personally I prefer bars over scoops, no particular reason it's just what I have.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 07:47:01 »
Personally I prefer bars over scoops, no particular reason it's just what I have.

So it's more of, the keyset I like has blank so I'm going to use blank. Or have you had prolonged experience with both?
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 07:51:02 »
I currently have bars, not liking them much, they're too near the bottom of the key, and it takes effort sometimes to find them. A homing dot is much easier to notice (that's what I have at work). Have not tried the homing dish yet, not really interested in it, either: the homing dot is good enough for me.

And the homing dot is sometimes called a nipple. That's another good reason to love it.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 07:52:20 »
:deadhorse:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76169.0

Thanks! Didn't really go sifting through any older posts before posting. At least I have a reason if there isn't that much discussion goes on here. :p
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 07:55:27 »
I currently have bars, not liking them much, they're too near the bottom of the key, and it takes effort sometimes to find them. A homing dot is much easier to notice (that's what I have at work). Have not tried the homing dish yet, not really interested in it, either: the homing dot is good enough for me.

And the homing dot is sometimes called a nipple. That's another good reason to love it.

I always forget about the nipple because I find it much more uncommon in newer boards. The only board I have used with nipples was an AEK and IIRC they were on "D" and "K". My god that was a weird experience for me. I need to hunt down an MX set with nipples to get a better opinion on them.

Also, I can't argue with that. Nipples are now front runners because of the name.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 08:22:25 »
I prefer scoops in GMK sets; but I hate the small ones of DSA, do I have reasons for that?; well, the look, they fit very naturally with the set, feeling, your finger tips accommodate very well on them; finally, they are exclusive for GMK key cap sets, bars are just so common, even the cheapo rubber dome keyboard has bars.

See how smoothly the scoops blend with the other key caps:


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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:39:54 »
bars  ;D

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:49:29 »
Bars.

But only if you are 21.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:52:07 »
Bars.

But only if you are 21.

But what if you're from Canada; 19 :p
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:57:49 »
Bars, tried nipples shortly and didn't like them.
I don't think i would like scoops, I rely too much on the homing feature and they don't seem different enough.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 10:04:19 »
Bars...

Given how OCD people here are about their typing experience I'm surprised people like scoops which actually feel significantly different as a key and when you press it vs. bars or nipples....and yet don't seem easier to find than bars (not to me anyways).

But they do look nice...

I think there is a bit of exclusivity around Scoops and maybe that plays a part in it...

IMO, bars should be offered on GMK sets just as much as any other of the options..some people disagree but realistically we offer things like 1800 support, 75% support, etc, etc so offering a mod set of bars in a GMK GB only makes sense..or as an included extra..it only makes sense...

Seen it in a few of them which has been great..and only after people expressed an opinion about it...

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 10:28:37 »
I think this thread needs a poll...

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 12:24:41 »
Scoops: Noblesse oblige, bars are for the peasants.

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 16:01:10 »
I prefer boobs

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 16:51:09 »
Scoops have a nice feel, bars and scoops combined are intriguing. Deep dish sphericals are delightful. Dots are some of my favorites for Alps caps. I don't really dislike bars, but I don't really care for them either.

Several Alps caps I use have no homing keys at all and I have no problem with that.

Dots and scoops are my fave though.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 17:06:32 »
Bars. Beets. Battlestar Galactica

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 17:21:48 »
Let me repost this here:
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 20 September 2016, 02:06:57 »
I love SP's deepdish caps. If only they could make an entire set...
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 20 September 2016, 17:07:04 »
I remember those ancient times, when we were silenced by a majority of infidel scoops users. Those were dark times, but then some voices started to rise, and even more after that, and a legion after those, finally finding what was making their keyboards slow and unusable, and recognising themselves the need to have bars, and to bar scoops from taking possession, once again, of their beloved keyboards.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 16:55:08 »
I love scoops, bars are like speed bumps for your typing experience
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:45:52 »


Scoops find a way...

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Scoops find a way...

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Scoops find a way...

I don't think I'd need a keyboard if I had a Jeff Goldblum  :p

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Scoops find a way...

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 12:40:41 »
Most group buys now include bars, so yes, it may be a dead horse, but let's keep alive the memory of the bad times.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 12:42:40 »
Excited for hydro so I can actually test this and figure out my preference.. all ive tried is nipples and bars

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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 15:54:45 »
Excited for hydro so I can actually test this and figure out my preference.. all ive tried is nipples and bars

Scoops may be remotely acceptable if you keep your hands in the same position all the time, but if you use many shortcuts, or your play games, or you use autocad, you'll see that bars are a necessity. Just by hovering, light like a breeze, on your keys, you'll understand where you are.

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:06:20 »
personally i like bars more but GMK doesn't have them, so i end up with scoops anyway
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:37:05 »
personally i like bars more but GMK doesn't have them, so i end up with scoops anyway

most of new group buys have bars and scoops  :thumb:

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:49:49 »
Just picked up my first GMK set and it was also my first experience with scoops.  You're right about blending in.  In fact, when I was putting them on I was like, "oh crap, there's no way to feel the F and J keys."  And then I put my hands on the home row... OOOOOOhhhhhh, AAAAAAhhhh.  Scoops are nice!  I also think they are easier to locate quickly, since the scoop effects the entire cap,unlike the bar that is just at the bottom.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 09:51:31 »
Just picked up my first GMK set and it was also my first experience with scoops.  You're right about blending in.  In fact, when I was putting them on I was like, "oh crap, there's no way to feel the F and J keys."  And then I put my hands on the home row... OOOOOOhhhhhh, AAAAAAhhhh.  Scoops are nice!  I also think they are easier to locate quickly, since the scoop effects the entire cap,unlike the bar that is just at the bottom.

I had the same experience the first time I used an OG Cherry set, it was a revelation, after years feeling the oddity of a bump under the sensitive finger tips the scoops where like a fresh air for the typing.

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 10:23:49 »
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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 10:48:43 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 12:29:04 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 12:31:15 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 14:23:06 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.


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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:00:13 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

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