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Offline manna

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Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 16:24:01 »
I'm asking because I'm looking for a keyboard with white alps , and a guy claim to have an Acer 6311 keyboard  with them.
The thing is that I can't find any information about such a model, so I was wondering if it does actually exist.

Thanks.
« Last Edit: Wed, 21 September 2016, 16:55:16 by manna »

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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:01:05 »
They use Acer switches. They look a lot like Alps at first glance and are compatible with Alps caps, but they're not the same at all.


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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:21:04 »
They use Acer switches. They look a lot like Alps at first glance and are compatible with Alps caps, but they're not the same at all.
That's what I read as well, so I asked him for a picture of one of the switches, since he claim he possess one with actual genuine Alps.
But he still has to answer event though he read the message.

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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 19:11:30 »
Acer switches are very nice on their own. If the keyboard is relatively cheap, ~$30 is the going rate for a good set of key caps anyway.
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 20:34:52 »
The Acer 6311 and 6312 keyboards exist in a few variants with different cases but the switches are always Acer switches.
The switches are switch modules on top of membranes, not on a big PCB like with Alps. I suspect that the modules are mounted in the plastic case top in all variants.
There are keyboards with Alps that have similar-looking case designs to some Acer 6311 but those have different model numbers on the label.

I think fohat.digs is in a minority. The Acer 6311 seems quite unpopular to me. Personally, I think the switches are too light and inconsistent.
Some keyboards have nicer keycaps than others. If the keycaps are not very very nice, $30 is much too much IMHO.
« Last Edit: Wed, 21 September 2016, 20:42:24 by Findecanor »
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 21:14:06 »
The Acer 6311 and 6312 keyboards exist in a few variants with different cases but the switches are always Acer switches.
The switches are switch modules on top of membranes, not on a big PCB like with Alps. I suspect that the modules are mounted in the plastic case top in all variants.
There are keyboards with Alps that have similar-looking case designs to some Acer 6311 but those have different model numbers on the label.

I think fohat.digs is in a minority. The Acer 6311 seems quite unpopular to me. Personally, I think the switches are too light and inconsistent.
Some keyboards have nicer keycaps than others. If the keycaps are not very very nice, $30 is much too much IMHO.
I agree with him. Every time I try them, I'm surprised at how much I actually like them. They're not bad switches. Very tactile and clicky.
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:52:29 »
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 03:59:44 »
They're not Genuine ALPS, they are Acer Switch.. they do looks like ALPS though but does not feel the same. Its pretty easy to find them from where I live, but most are in very dirty condition.
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 07:29:51 »
Well, at this point I don't know what to think, if he was ingenuous or a potential scammer, since he didn't answer to my request for pictures of the actual switch.

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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 07:49:16 »
Well, at this point I don't know what to think, if he was ingenuous or a potential scammer, since he didn't answer to my request for pictures of the actual switch.

Many sellers don't really know or care very much about keyboards. Sometimes that gives you an opportunity to get something good at a cheap price.
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 17:20:22 »
Turns out only the case is from an Acer 6311, while the internal components are from another keyboard.

Thanks for the help  :thumb:

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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 23 September 2016, 04:37:24 »
If anyone's curious, here are the pictures.

What's interesting, the label claims:
  • 6311 model (which would imply Acer switches and ANSI layout)
  • Czech localization (which is correct wrt keycaps, but the case itself has German (!) legends on the LED sticker)
  • manufacturing date in '92 (which sounds plausible)
However, it's clearly ISO with clicky white Alps mounted in a metal plate (which would imply 6012 model or something like that).
I'm even more confused about keycaps: they're on the thicker side, but I'm not sure, if they're dye-sublimated PBT… they're on the thicker side, I see hardly any aggressive yellowing/shine and keycap legends are somewhat deceptive (some localized legends are certainly pad-printed, though, unsure if pad-printing and dye sublimation have been combined), but something about them is different from PBT dyesubs from Alps Bigfoot or IBM Model M.

Perhaps some previous owner or even the manufacturer made a frankenboard… or there's incomplete information out there in the wiki etc.
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 23 September 2016, 12:32:56 »
The case and keycaps are the exact same style as on my Acer 6312-K. When I look closer, I can see that the plate is black so the switches are not mounted in the white case top in this variation as they are in other variations of the keyboard.

The Deskthority Wiki mentions two variations of the Acer 6011/6012. One looks the same as my 6312-K but has Alps switches. The other variation has a bigger case.

I think either:
* The keyboard was mislabelled from the start, or
* The innards from a 6012 were transplanted into the case of a 6311. Perhaps because the original case had been damaged or yellowed too much or maybe only because the user wanted a smaller case ...
« Last Edit: Fri, 23 September 2016, 12:38:22 by Findecanor »
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Re: Acer 6311 with genuine alps?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 24 September 2016, 09:13:09 »
It could explain the keycaps…? But the German LED sticker is still weird.