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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 24 May 2017, 17:51:37 »
So did anybody figure out a way to reprogram the Abel yet? Anyone try Hasu's USB to USB converter with it? I've got an Abel ready to build but still slightly on the fence about whether to trade it or not... I want programmability for Colemak...

I believe QMK could be ported to it, and I'd be willing to do it, but I need a PCB or keyboard to work on.

Nice try  :))

I'm actually a pretty frequent contributor to QMK. The commits are out there, same user name.

Sent a PM -- happy to loan out my PCB for the cause.

Arrangements have been made. Not promising anything, but there's framework code in QMK that I believe can be adapted to support the Abel, based on my Hex edit of the stock firmware - it should be similar to the Infinity 60 and the White Fox.

I'll keep everyone updated.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 24 May 2017, 18:33:01 »
So did anybody figure out a way to reprogram the Abel yet? Anyone try Hasu's USB to USB converter with it? I've got an Abel ready to build but still slightly on the fence about whether to trade it or not... I want programmability for Colemak...

I believe QMK could be ported to it, and I'd be willing to do it, but I need a PCB or keyboard to work on.

Nice try  :))

I'm actually a pretty frequent contributor to QMK. The commits are out there, same user name.

Sent a PM -- happy to loan out my PCB for the cause.

Arrangements have been made. Not promising anything, but there's framework code in QMK that I believe can be adapted to support the Abel, based on my Hex edit of the stock firmware - it should be similar to the Infinity 60 and the White Fox.

I'll keep everyone updated.

You rule. Good luck!

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 27 May 2017, 03:25:09 »
So did anybody figure out a way to reprogram the Abel yet? Anyone try Hasu's USB to USB converter with it? I've got an Abel ready to build but still slightly on the fence about whether to trade it or not... I want programmability for Colemak...

I believe QMK could be ported to it, and I'd be willing to do it, but I need a PCB or keyboard to work on.

Nice try  :))

I'm actually a pretty frequent contributor to QMK. The commits are out there, same user name.

Sent a PM -- happy to loan out my PCB for the cause.

Arrangements have been made. Not promising anything, but there's framework code in QMK that I believe can be adapted to support the Abel, based on my Hex edit of the stock firmware - it should be similar to the Infinity 60 and the White Fox.

I'll keep everyone updated.

Wow awesome, that was quick! Looking forward to any of your discoveries, but of course no pressure :P

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 29 May 2017, 17:26:52 »
So did anybody figure out a way to reprogram the Abel yet? Anyone try Hasu's USB to USB converter with it? I've got an Abel ready to build but still slightly on the fence about whether to trade it or not... I want programmability for Colemak...

I believe QMK could be ported to it, and I'd be willing to do it, but I need a PCB or keyboard to work on.

Nice try  :))

I'm actually a pretty frequent contributor to QMK. The commits are out there, same user name.

Sent a PM -- happy to loan out my PCB for the cause.

Arrangements have been made. Not promising anything, but there's framework code in QMK that I believe can be adapted to support the Abel, based on my Hex edit of the stock firmware - it should be similar to the Infinity 60 and the White Fox.

I'll keep everyone updated.

I am monitoring this thread.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 29 May 2017, 21:12:01 »
So did anybody figure out a way to reprogram the Abel yet? Anyone try Hasu's USB to USB converter with it? I've got an Abel ready to build but still slightly on the fence about whether to trade it or not... I want programmability for Colemak...

I believe QMK could be ported to it, and I'd be willing to do it, but I need a PCB or keyboard to work on.

Nice try  :))

I'm actually a pretty frequent contributor to QMK. The commits are out there, same user name.

Sent a PM -- happy to loan out my PCB for the cause.

Arrangements have been made. Not promising anything, but there's framework code in QMK that I believe can be adapted to support the Abel, based on my Hex edit of the stock firmware - it should be similar to the Infinity 60 and the White Fox.

I'll keep everyone updated.

I am monitoring this thread.

I am monitoring your monitoring of this thread.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 01 June 2017, 15:19:37 »
Keyboard has arrived. Already hit a roadblock and have reached out to Jack Humbert for advice - evidently Matrix decided to tie two rows together and current limit one of them with a 2k ohm resistor. That means at least those two rows will have to be read analog in order to sense their voltage level.

****s.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 01 June 2017, 17:29:11 »
Keyboard has arrived. Already hit a roadblock and have reached out to Jack Humbert for advice - evidently Matrix decided to tie two rows together and current limit one of them with a 2k ohm resistor. That means at least those two rows will have to be read analog in order to sense their voltage level.

****s.

I figured it was more of a '**** everyone else' kind of move than a question of accidental/ineptitude

do you happen to have an a.87 pcb to compare whether it's close enough in dimensions?

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 01 June 2017, 23:12:34 »
Keyboard has arrived. Already hit a roadblock and have reached out to Jack Humbert for advice - evidently Matrix decided to tie two rows together and current limit one of them with a 2k ohm resistor. That means at least those two rows will have to be read analog in order to sense their voltage level.

****s.

I figured it was more of a '**** everyone else' kind of move than a question of accidental/ineptitude

do you happen to have an a.87 pcb to compare whether it's close enough in dimensions?

I do not have an a.87 to compare to.

Don't worry, I haven't given up yet. A few of the contributors from QMK have given me some examples to borrow code from.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 11 June 2017, 17:21:37 »
Might as well ask here about this problem I'm having with my Abel. It keeps disconnecting and reconnecting when I'm typing. I've tried different cables, different USB ports... tried disabling USB selective suspend. Anyone have any ideas to help me troubleshoot?

Also, another question: The key between right windows key and right control doesn't register. I assumed this was AltGr so it won't register on something like keyboardtester.com, but it doesn't seem to work with any keys to give me alternative characters... it just does nothing as far as I can tell. Is there a way for me to test if it's working at all?  I'm using the English (United Kingdom) setting in Windows 10.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 12 June 2017, 01:11:10 »
Might as well ask here about this problem I'm having with my Abel. It keeps disconnecting and reconnecting when I'm typing. I've tried different cables, different USB ports... tried disabling USB selective suspend. Anyone have any ideas to help me troubleshoot?

Also, another question: The key between right windows key and right control doesn't register. I assumed this was AltGr so it won't register on something like keyboardtester.com, but it doesn't seem to work with any keys to give me alternative characters... it just does nothing as far as I can tell. Is there a way for me to test if it's working at all?  I'm using the English (United Kingdom) setting in Windows 10.

on your 2nd question: could be the Fn, or function, key if it isnt anything else.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 12 June 2017, 05:55:45 »
Might as well ask here about this problem I'm having with my Abel. It keeps disconnecting and reconnecting when I'm typing. I've tried different cables, different USB ports... tried disabling USB selective suspend. Anyone have any ideas to help me troubleshoot?

Also, another question: The key between right windows key and right control doesn't register. I assumed this was AltGr so it won't register on something like keyboardtester.com, but it doesn't seem to work with any keys to give me alternative characters... it just does nothing as far as I can tell. Is there a way for me to test if it's working at all?  I'm using the English (United Kingdom) setting in Windows 10.

on your 2nd question: could be the Fn, or function, key if it isnt anything else.

Yeah I've been wondering that. How can I test it on a TKL though? Is it just seeing if the F row has some media functions? I'll give it another shot when I get home tonight...

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 13 August 2017, 20:15:22 »
Keyboard has arrived. Already hit a roadblock and have reached out to Jack Humbert for advice - evidently Matrix decided to tie two rows together and current limit one of them with a 2k ohm resistor. That means at least those two rows will have to be read analog in order to sense their voltage level.

****s.

I figured it was more of a '**** everyone else' kind of move than a question of accidental/ineptitude

do you happen to have an a.87 pcb to compare whether it's close enough in dimensions?

I do not have an a.87 to compare to.

Don't worry, I haven't given up yet. A few of the contributors from QMK have given me some examples to borrow code from.

No updates on this, I presume? _ABANDONS HOPE_

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 16 August 2017, 08:25:11 »
Keyboard has arrived. Already hit a roadblock and have reached out to Jack Humbert for advice - evidently Matrix decided to tie two rows together and current limit one of them with a 2k ohm resistor. That means at least those two rows will have to be read analog in order to sense their voltage level.

****s.

I figured it was more of a '**** everyone else' kind of move than a question of accidental/ineptitude

do you happen to have an a.87 pcb to compare whether it's close enough in dimensions?

I do not have an a.87 to compare to.

Don't worry, I haven't given up yet. A few of the contributors from QMK have given me some examples to borrow code from.

No updates on this, I presume? _ABANDONS HOPE_

I can't even get my board to work 100% perfectly, it keeps disconnecting momentarily. I've just received a new PCB in the mail though and will try poking my current one around with more vigour. But I'll probably just sell it all on anyway if there's ultimately no way to program it. It's a beautiful board though, and I don't wanna abandon hope just yet... I put my faith in Terry to save us all.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 26 July 2018, 19:48:39 »
can anyone help me with a question i have on my abel i just got?

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:10:28 »
can anyone help me with a question i have on my abel i just got?

Would help if you posted the question ;)

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:35:02 »
i was just wondering in keyboard tester the bottom 3 keys on either side of the space bar do not register and are the only keys that are not labeled, what are these keys function? every other key on my board works. 

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #116 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 09:54:32 »
i was just wondering in keyboard tester the bottom 3 keys on either side of the space bar do not register and are the only keys that are not labeled, what are these keys function? every other key on my board works.

i know the right alt isn't mapped to anything on the abel pcb, but which keys in particular are you talking about
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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 28 July 2018, 22:15:13 »
well i figured out that they key that wasn't working is the FN key? i installed sips on this board and cant get the leds to come on though is there a way to turn them on and off via fn key or is there something else i need to do? I also have the random disconnection issue... i dont know what it is this is my first board. its very random.
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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #118 on: Sun, 29 July 2018, 00:30:08 »
well i figured out that they key that wasn't working is the FN key? i installed sips on this board and cant get the leds to come on though is there a way to turn them on and off via fn key or is there something else i need to do? I also have the random disconnection issue... i dont know what it is this is my first board. its very random.

matrix pcbs are notoriously bizarre with issues

it might be SIPs that are causing the LED issue, i've heard of something like that before
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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #119 on: Sun, 29 July 2018, 00:52:51 »
yeah this is a weird pcb, i got the leds working, and apparently the dc issue is something in the firmware and has ben patched in newer versions the maker of the board has contacted me and is helping.

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 30 July 2018, 14:01:18 »
JKush I know you PM'd me but I'm gonna post this here in the thread cos I've been asked for it before, so hopefully future Abel owners won't have to search so hard for an answer. This is the firmware update frostylove sent me which sorted out all my disconnection issues (the right alt is still unmapped btw!).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5V32pe9tZhzdDUwb2tLLS1UakU/view?usp=sharing
To update firmware, follow the steps below
1 unplug the keyboard
2 Hold the esc and then plug in the keyboard
3 In the mobile disk shows up(then you could release esc), replace the AbelXXX.bin with new firmware binary file
4 unplug and plug in again to enjoy the new firmware

In some rare cases, keyboard is unrecognizable.
Follow the steps to format the internal disk
1 Format the internal disk WITHOUT "fast format" option
2 Copy Ctodo.bin into the internal disk then copy the firmware into it
3 Unplug to restart the MCU

Hope it could save you from randomly disconnect issue
« Last Edit: Mon, 30 July 2018, 14:03:37 by futurecrime »

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 30 July 2018, 22:28:00 »
JKush I know you PM'd me but I'm gonna post this here in the thread cos I've been asked for it before, so hopefully future Abel owners won't have to search so hard for an answer. This is the firmware update frostylove sent me which sorted out all my disconnection issues (the right alt is still unmapped btw!).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5V32pe9tZhzdDUwb2tLLS1UakU/view?usp=sharing
To update firmware, follow the steps below
1 unplug the keyboard
2 Hold the esc and then plug in the keyboard
3 In the mobile disk shows up(then you could release esc), replace the AbelXXX.bin with new firmware binary file
4 unplug and plug in again to enjoy the new firmware

In some rare cases, keyboard is unrecognizable.
Follow the steps to format the internal disk
1 Format the internal disk WITHOUT "fast format" option
2 Copy Ctodo.bin into the internal disk then copy the firmware into it
3 Unplug to restart the MCU

Hope it could save you from randomly disconnect issue

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Re: [GB] Matrix - Abel (received, shipping soon)
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 11 January 2019, 22:15:20 »
I recently got my hands on a Matrix Abel. I was wondering if anyone knows the instructions to toggle the necessary lights or any other key maps.