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Offline Rayoui

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 17 January 2017, 20:51:18 »
I can't think of a situation that would require me to press down 6+ keys at the same time. NKRO is a nice thing to have I guess, but I certainly wouldn't overlook a board just because it has 6kro.

As far as 1000hz, I doubt anyone can feel the difference. Objectively, I'd say it does give some improvement to latency, however small.

Mice are a different story. I know I can certainly feel the difference between different sensors and 125hz/1000Hz polling rates. But that's a whole different conversation.  :p

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 18 January 2017, 01:36:16 »
.. oh and also, dont make the spacebar difficult to swap like Corsair and Leopold did. Stick with standard 6.25 or 7 and standard stabilizer spacing.  >:D
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 18 January 2017, 01:56:11 »
.. oh and also, dont make the spacebar difficult to swap like Corsair and Leopold did. Stick with standard 6.25 or 7 and standard stabilizer spacing.  >:D

haha, I feel like 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 6 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1.5 bottom row is the "standard" for gaming board.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:48:35 »
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I always test my typing accuracy.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:56:27 »
Hello,

I'm a designer from Logitech. I have a question to the Gamers community :)

What would you do/use to compare different Gaming (mechanical) keyboards performance, on top of doing a typing test. Is there an online Game or any sort of performance online test Gamers are using to test and compare between each others how good or bad is their keyboards? There are plenty of typing tests available online but, but what about gaming test, where may be you use the WASD and space keys to see if the keyboard is good for gaming?

Thanks for answer!
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Honestly, this is probably the wrong place to ask that question. I would look into r/pcmasterrace or something like that.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 19 January 2017, 12:05:28 »
Hello,

I'm a designer from Logitech. I have a question to the Gamers community :)

What would you do/use to compare different Gaming (mechanical) keyboards performance, on top of doing a typing test. Is there an online Game or any sort of performance online test Gamers are using to test and compare between each others how good or bad is their keyboards? There are plenty of typing tests available online but, but what about gaming test, where may be you use the WASD and space keys to see if the keyboard is good for gaming?

Thanks for answer!
LogiSly

Honestly, this is probably the wrong place to ask that question. I would look into r/pcmasterrace or something like that.

Just curious... why would you say that?
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 19 January 2017, 13:55:36 »
Hello,

I'm a designer from Logitech. I have a question to the Gamers community :)

What would you do/use to compare different Gaming (mechanical) keyboards performance, on top of doing a typing test. Is there an online Game or any sort of performance online test Gamers are using to test and compare between each others how good or bad is their keyboards? There are plenty of typing tests available online but, but what about gaming test, where may be you use the WASD and space keys to see if the keyboard is good for gaming?

Thanks for answer!
LogiSly

Honestly, this is probably the wrong place to ask that question. I would look into r/pcmasterrace or something like that.

Hahhahaahhaha....

Don't say that Archdill..  Adults by hype-keyboards too..

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 00:01:56 »
Hello,

I'm a designer from Logitech. I have a question to the Gamers community :)

What would you do/use to compare different Gaming (mechanical) keyboards performance, on top of doing a typing test. Is there an online Game or any sort of performance online test Gamers are using to test and compare between each others how good or bad is their keyboards? There are plenty of typing tests available online but, but what about gaming test, where may be you use the WASD and space keys to see if the keyboard is good for gaming?

Thanks for answer!
LogiSly

Honestly, this is probably the wrong place to ask that question. I would look into r/pcmasterrace or something like that.

Hahhahaahhaha....

Don't say that Archdill..  Adults by hype-keyboards too..

Carry on then... haha

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 01:57:19 »
well i mean honestly, we're keyboard people yes.. but the demographic is hardcore gamers right? Just because they like mechanical keyboards and there is definitely some overlap, what might sell well to gamers might not be considered choice by us.

I see your point, Arch.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 02:20:18 »
I personally find most stock keyboards need a keycap set swapped in right away. A quality switch can feel like complete garbage when low quality keycaps are used. No pad printed caps. No low quality painted windowed caps. Just use thick double shot keys and include extra textured or rubber topped gamer set keys for WASD, QWER etc. But include standard non rubberized or textured caps for that too. Always use a plate and make it heavy. As far as aesthetics go, do whatever sells and appeals to gamers. Even if it is tacky and an eyesore. Consumers are weird. Especially those who don't really know too much about mechanical keyboards. If the people want something that "stands out" and looks like a damn spaceship, then so be it.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 04:51:55 »
Oh.. BTW, Many people (who are more into keyboards than the average Joe) have test-phrases that they try to type fast on a new keyboard that they are trying out.
If it can be typed fast on the keyboard without any errors and without feeling weird then it would be a good keyboard to type on.
... And if it isn't a good keyboard to type on, then it is probably not a good keyboard for gaming either.

For why should you get a keyboard only for gaming, that sucks for typing? Then you would need to have two keyboards on the desk. Nobody does that.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 08:43:03 »
Oh.. BTW, Many people (who are more into keyboards than the average Joe) have test-phrases that they try to type fast on a new keyboard that they are trying out.
If it can be typed fast on the keyboard without any errors and without feeling weird then it would be a good keyboard to type on.
... And if it isn't a good keyboard to type on, then it is probably not a good keyboard for gaming either.

For why should you get a keyboard only for gaming, that sucks for typing? Then you would need to have two keyboards on the desk. Nobody does that.

There are as many different people as there are configurations under the sun.  I have multiple computers and multiple locations.  And the keyboards at those different locations and on those different computers are tailored to the need.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 05:46:00 »
This just shows is that we should revert to punched card input, where each card is treated as a level 0 interrupt with no latency whatsoever.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:58:51 »
I don't know what makes a better "gaming board". I appreciate solid components used as an enthusiast, but as a gamer, I could really care less. I used a range from a rubber dome Bluetooth board to a board with mx Green switches to my modded Ducky board with Gateron reds for gaming. Played about the same. Mouse made a huge difference, but after a good sensor, it came down to the subjective feel.

The ONLY thing I found that made a noticeable difference for me in game was the form factor. For gaming, give me 60%. Less keyboard for the mouse to smash into if I'm trying to look to the left rapidly. Curious to see if Logitech would entertain the idea of a 60% mechanical board.

For everyday typing... A whole different list of things I like and don't like pop up for me, but for gaming, my needs are simple.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 21:26:08 »
Logitech should be very grateful to all the feedback they got here!

Easy advice to you Logitech. Gamers keyboards look like child batmobile toys.. Gamers are adult now, at least those here who can sink good money into a simple keyboard!

For an attractive keyboard, integrate good wireless solution, a customisable touch bar with screen tracking on what game/program is used. Make it with lots of keys customisable easily!
Use cherry mx switch, in standard ainsi and ISO layout for swapping the keycaps which I'm sure will never be as nice as Cherries/GMK.
Use nice material like aluminum. Tenkeyless, 60keys or full size.
Produce a tenkeypad with touch screen....

Ya just go in a war room with some high experienced keyboardists here that you pay, and brainstorm the **** of of this!

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:20:29 »
I really love what Logitech has done with the G Pro keyboard. It seems awesome. The addition of a detachable cable is definitely nice.

I do wish to see 2 more "options" in a similar keyboards : Wireless with the same technology as Logitech's G403 and G900 and also linear Romer-G switches.

Those are of course my personal opinions.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:26:10 »
I really love what Logitech has done with the G Pro keyboard. It seems awesome. The addition of a detachable cable is definitely nice.

I do wish to see 2 more "options" in a similar keyboards : Wireless with the same technology as Logitech's G403 and G900 and also linear Romer-G switches.

Those are of course my personal opinions.


The romer g is definitely an innovation..  but the rest of it is just an ordinary ansi keyboard.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 16:03:14 »
I really love what Logitech has done with the G Pro keyboard. It seems awesome. The addition of a detachable cable is definitely nice.

I do wish to see 2 more "options" in a similar keyboards : Wireless with the same technology as Logitech's G403 and G900 and also linear Romer-G switches.

Those are of course my personal opinions.


The romer g is definitely an innovation..  but the rest of it is just an ordinary ansi keyboard.

And thats exactly what people want. Not something like the G910/G410. Small, minimalist look, TKL. Its a huge improvement over the G910/G410 when it comes to the design.

Its not a softwareless fully programmable keyboard, but we won't see that from Logitech or other big companies, because that would be deemed to hard to use for the average consumers.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 10:13:53 »
As much I would like it, I don't see Logitech making smaller form factor keyboards, but they could make more ergonomic ones with some tenting to the keys etc like the MS Natural keyboards.

I recently tried a new Logitech model with the Romer Gs and they felt fine but the keycaps did not. I felt they were form over function in the way they were shaped.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 11:20:07 »
New keys have gotten better.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 12:12:49 »
Check out the G810 and its tenkeyless variant, the "G Pro".
Those have the same Romer-G switches but keycaps in regular shapes. The same style as the G610 that have Cherry MX switches.
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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:00:07 »
It's hard to tell from pictures online, but it looks like the G Pro has double-shot keycaps rather than the painted ones from the G810. Definitely a step in the right direction. I also noticed that some of their advertising points out reductions in latency due to optimizations in the controller and it made me wonder if any of these changes were influenced by the discussions in this thread.

I like that Logitech takes the suggestions of their customers seriously when designing and improving their products. It seems few companies do this nowadays.

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Re: I'm from Logitech: What to use to test a Gaming keybaord
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 23:45:40 »
I am wondering the same. :P

However, I hope they make a wireless version of it in the future. I travel quite a bit with my PC... Weight isn't an issue to me and although it is easy to plug everything in the back of the computer, it gets annoying when you travel a lot. If I can just plug in the power cords/monitor and be done with it, then that would be awesome. There is also an issue with distance when I use my PC plugged into my TV and I am sitting on the couch.