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ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:24:05 »
Can we unban kirkle? (100% serious)

I haven't really talked to him too much since all that **** went down but recently we've been chatting and he seems to have matured a lot. He's been offering super cheap keyboard services to people on reddit and told me about all the DIY stuff he's got planned and it sounds pretty exciting. Most importantly of all he's said he misses GH and I'm sure he'd like to share some stuff with us.

thanks
« Last Edit: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:22:20 by Sifo »
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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:24:53 »
Do it
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Re: hey
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:29:35 »
2nd this motion
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Re: hey
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:56:52 »
I miss kirkle

I always remember the time we skyped and he went to bed and I faintly could see his outline in the dark. Once he was sleeping I hung up. I miss times like those. RIP DONG SQUAD

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Re: hey
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:57:39 »
Only if he posts cheese nips again.

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Re: hey
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:06:53 »
3rd this

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Re: hey
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:08:51 »
Agreed

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Re: hey
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:14:50 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name
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Re: hey
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:29:55 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Oh you sweet summer child

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:22:35 »
changed title for visibility
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:27:49 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Yessir, Essence of Kirkle is named after him (his GH username is kmiller8)
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:28:19 »
Now I want to read the story...

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:30:58 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Yessir, Essence of Kirkle is named after him (his GH username is kmiller8)

can you guess who Sifo's Soul is named after

 :rolleyes:

Now I want to read the story...

cheese nips
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:34:27 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Yessir, Essence of Kirkle is named after him (his GH username is kmiller8)

can you guess who Sifo's Soul is named after

 :rolleyes:

cheese nips

Huh. Thought it was after you.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:36:22 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Yessir, Essence of Kirkle is named after him (his GH username is kmiller8)

can you guess who Sifo's Soul is named after

 :rolleyes:

cheese nips

Huh. Thought it was after you.

It's for all the sifos

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:42:32 »
were the demilk, sifo's soul, and essence of kirkle (+more?) all released at the same time?

did those people get one of their own caps?
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 18:43:44 »
that's for the bro threads. I'd like to keep discussion related to the topic at hand here, which is a very important one.
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:02:54 »
that's for the bro threads. I'd like to keep discussion related to the topic at hand here, which is a very important one.

Get kirkle to talk to mods, if he really wants to come back he can ask for a second chance.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:03:36 »
that's for the bro threads. I'd like to keep discussion related to the topic at hand here, which is a very important one.

Get kirkle to talk to mods, if he really wants to come back he can ask for a second chance.

I told him to, he said Hoff kept saying "I'll look into it"
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:04:38 »
that's for the bro threads. I'd like to keep discussion related to the topic at hand here, which is a very important one.

Get kirkle to talk to mods, if he really wants to come back he can ask for a second chance.

I told him to, he said Hoff kept saying "I'll look into it"

Guess the mods need to gather for a meeting, lol.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:22:27 »
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:51:03 »
o is there someone behind the bbv2 name

Yessir, Essence of Kirkle is named after him (his GH username is kmiller8)

can you guess who Sifo's Soul is named after

 :rolleyes:

Now I want to read the story...

cheese nips

Santa suit.

Oh kirkle ...
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 17 February 2017, 15:22:22 »
in favor, i think it's been long enough to let him back as long as we keep an eye on him to make sure he's cool
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 09:33:51 »
I miss Kirkle too.  :|

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:06:44 »
I don't see why someone can't have a 2nd chance on a trial basis.

I do, however, caution against any major amount of items being sent to someone who was banned or allowing them to run group buys or anything like that.

I don't know him well, so that is just a general suggestion.
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:59:55 »
Good points, for all we know he could be working for al qaeda by now. We'll keep a close watch on this rascal.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 11:24:49 »
I thought he was already back using an alt. :confused:

FWIW I emailed him a while back and he was very helpful with the thing I asked about.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 11:49:13 »
do eet

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 18 February 2017, 12:26:25 »
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:07:54 »
Some acknowledgement of the issue at hand would be appreciated. Yeah Hoff said he misses kirkle but then why is he still banned :thinking:
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:35:46 »
Some acknowledgement of the issue at hand would be appreciated. Yeah Hoff said he misses kirkle but then why is he still banned :thinking:

Surprised nothing has been said yet

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:46:36 »
Some acknowledgement of the issue at hand would be appreciated. Yeah Hoff said he misses kirkle but then why is he still banned :thinking:

Well because he still broke the forum rules repeatedly and didn't slow down or stop, despite many warnings and a few temp bans to get the point across.  I miss him on a personal level - I like to think we were decent friends, and it sucks to have to do that to a friend.  But when it happened, there really wasn't another option aside from turning a blind eye, which would of course be favoritism and not desired at all. 

So, all that said, we come to the point of the thread - unbanning a permabanned member.  There is currently no precedent for this, which I think is why it's never been done before.  Letting one person back begs the same question for basically every other banned member, and at the moment I'm not sure the best way to handle that. 

Personally, I miss both kirkle and moose back when there was no trolling and only helpful answers and cool projects.  They were fun people that brought some great personality to the forum.  The fact that there was a long period of positive involvement before the ban (ie, they didn't join solely to troll and subsequently were banned) leads me to lean toward giving a second chance.  But that's just me; the mod team will have to discuss the issue and come to a proper conclusion before any action can be taken.

Hope this helps; you're not being ignored.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 17:09:57 »
While I totally see your point and agree with you, I think the Mod's have lightened up quite a bit since the times when Moose and Kirkle were banned...I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 17:56:07 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 17:57:07 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?

hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:09:32 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?
hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:12:43 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?
hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:15:17 »
kirkle who?
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:30:08 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?

hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!
Recreate the thread, name it "Pudding With Partners". SFW
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:32:43 »
Recreate the thread, name it "Pudding With Partners". SFW

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:32:54 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?

hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!
Recreate the thread, name it "Pudding With Partners". SFW

that disturbs me more than the original title tbh
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 19:04:58 »
[...] I mean if we can talk about "eating ass" in offtopic, it's pretty much wide open at this point :))
Where it this thread you speak of?

hah, i guess it got deleted. ok nvm then!
Recreate the thread, name it "Pudding With Partners". SFW

that disturbs me more than the original title tbh
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 19:05:03 »
Some acknowledgement of the issue at hand would be appreciated. Yeah Hoff said he misses kirkle but then why is he still banned :thinking:

Well because he still broke the forum rules repeatedly and didn't slow down or stop, despite many warnings and a few temp bans to get the point across.  I miss him on a personal level - I like to think we were decent friends, and it sucks to have to do that to a friend.  But when it happened, there really wasn't another option aside from turning a blind eye, which would of course be favoritism and not desired at all. 

So, all that said, we come to the point of the thread - unbanning a permabanned member.  There is currently no precedent for this, which I think is why it's never been done before.  Letting one person back begs the same question for basically every other banned member, and at the moment I'm not sure the best way to handle that. 

Personally, I miss both kirkle and moose back when there was no trolling and only helpful answers and cool projects.  They were fun people that brought some great personality to the forum.  The fact that there was a long period of positive involvement before the ban (ie, they didn't join solely to troll and subsequently were banned) leads me to lean toward giving a second chance.  But that's just me; the mod team will have to discuss the issue and come to a proper conclusion before any action can be taken.

Hope this helps; you're not being ignored.

I think there is a lot to discuss and the biggest issues will lie in coming up with a system for individual cases. I believe together we can evaluate any account on a case by case status. It could also mean reevaluating the current status for deleting accounts for people/banning upon request.

I also fall into the "I miss kirkle" camp, but I would love to see this discussed and a decision reached publicly. No bias should come into play of course.


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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 19:47:03 »
Some anticipation should also be given to remarks on other keyboard forums about how impermanent a permaban is on GH.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 14:48:49 »
Dangerous president.

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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 15:51:18 »
Dangerous president.

Yes, we have a dangerous president.  And a dangerous precedent, too.

On a serious note, has any of this goodwill been on the boards?  So do we know how they will react when back on the boards?  I'd think to interview him (or something similar) to see if he actually has changed.  But hey, I'm not a mod...
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 16:05:29 »
If he made the choice to go down the route and get permanently banned, even when knowing the consequences, I can't see why we would want him back on the forum? Especially as he seems to continue to disregard the rules by making several alts (as far as I can tell). This is just my personal opinion. .

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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 18:29:51 »
My opinion - trolls who repent should have a second chance. But those who cheated people's trust and money through a scam after a GB, these are the ones who should be perma-ban.
 

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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 19:15:50 »
My opinion - trolls who repent should have a second chance. But those who cheated people's trust and money through a scam after a GB, these are the ones who should be perma-ban.

Maybe give them a custom tag or something along the lines of the stars. "Don't feed this troll" or "known scammer"

Not sure branding is the right way, just typing my thoughts.

I do like the idea of allowing some people back in some capacity to participate.

General forum drama amuses me more than it bothers me and I have also dodged a few scams so it's easier for me to vote for another chance.
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Re: ATTENTION MOD TEAM
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 19:18:02 »
My opinion - trolls who repent should have a second chance. But those who cheated people's trust and money through a scam after a GB, these are the ones who should be perma-ban.

What about those who break hearts?