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KIRA keyboards
« on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:00:07 »
Boards made/planned and current status:

KIRA : 96-key being developed by Input Club, kickstarter goal reached

KIRA EX : 96-key layout with spacing between arrow keys and numpad, 2nd prototype done, shelved.

KIRA EXS : KIRA EX with Slimmer bezels, prototypes finished, fulfillment

KIRA75: 75% keyboard, prototypes done and PCB prototypes currently being redesigned for qmk. Renamed to MiR75

KIRA60: group buy kits shipped out, v2 CAD done and sent to shop for quote

KIRA80 and KIRA S : GB cancelled, picked up by zFrontier

LXV : prototypes in production

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Hi guys, just wanted to share this personal project of mine that has kept me busy for weeks. So it all started when I did the first "KIRA" renders, a 96-key as some people might know. I liked the idea of a full size keyboard in a compact layout, so the 96 seemed like the perfect layout for me. I bough a b.mini EX X2 which is similar, and then a ZZ96 and I was happy, at first anyway. Then I realized that I had a hard time finding the arrow keys because there's no spacing between the alphas and arrow keys. That led me to trying out the 1800, which while great since it's kinda shorter, still takes up a lot of space. I am currently using a TX-1800 at home, it's a great keyboard but I still want to try what is basically a compact 1800 like the LZCP and the TXCP. Which led me to my first custom.

So here it is, the first prototype of what is basically a 96-key layout grouped into alphas, arrows and numpad. Big thanks to riotonthebay and Input Club's Brandon for all the advice and help they provided, It would've taken me too long to do this without their awesome help. I would also like to thank forevermadrigal, geckt, rainb1ood, gatix, krytone and livingspeedbump for being so supportive of my designs. I don't expect a lot of people to like it, but your enthusiasm with what I do already makes it worth it.  :thumb:

I call it the KIRA EX.

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So, the next steps. I'm trying to find someone who can design the PCB for me. I've already talked to Leeku and a friend, and I just need to decide how to go about it. I only just checked the spacing with GMK 9009 and I'm happy to know that my CAD and measurements weren't an epic failure. I've already updated the design too, to reduce the gap of the bezel from the caps, reduce the top bezel width, and add some polish to the corners and edges. I've also designed a weight insert since the bottom of the first prototype was really bare (did it to reduce the cost in case it was a **** up).

Thanks for reading, and I'll be updating this as the project develops  :thumb:

Also, the title is "KIRA keyboards" because I have other layouts planned, and this GH60 case is probably next:

The KIRA60 FE







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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:00:19 »
Things To Do as of 20170722:

  • find a PCB guy
  • acquire funds for second kit (lol)
  • maybe search for some manufacturer options

Changes made [CAD changes for now]:

  • reduced gap between bezel and caps
  • reduced top bezel
  • thicker inserts
  • added some chamfers and fillets to some corners and edges
  • designed a weight insert
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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:01:45 »
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Looking forward to watching this progress

Looks great and thanks for sharing


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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:04:24 »
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Looking forward to watching this progress

Looks great and thanks for sharing


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Thanks Bunny!

Also I forgot to mention, the inserts are supposed to be either metal or acrylic, but I just tried to screw them together. In the new design I have it thicker, but realized doing two-tone inserts might be great for accent. :D


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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:21:29 »
Like the idea, but I perfer to have saparate F roll.


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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:29:47 »
Like the idea, but I perfer to have saparate F roll.


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The point of a compacted F-row here I think in my point of view is the overall decrease in the size of the keyboard.

Edit: this is purely my own views, I do not affect any of the preference made by the designer for the kira 96.
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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:32:08 »
Like the idea, but I perfer to have saparate F roll.


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Thanks! I already have a TX-1800 and a ZZ96 so I'll be trying something of a hybrid. When I have the PCB made and actually used it for a several weeks, I will know if the layout is good for me. :)

Here are images of the current progress:







Weight cutout


Weight cutout


Weight insert


The current weight design will add another 1 Kg to the case if brass is used, compared to Aluminum.

0.497 Kg for Aluminum weight
1.546 Kg for Brass weight
1.454 Kg for Steel weight
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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 09:14:44 »


This gets me wet every time I see it

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 10:33:44 »
F Row! Love your work and look forward to more updates :)
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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 15:41:10 »
Sorta like a TX-CP, but different enough due to the F row without gaps.  With reduces bezels (especiallyat the top) you have yourself a winner.  I was looking forward to the KIRA 96key but I already have a board in that layout, but no compact 1800 style board so I'd probably be in!
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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 19:07:20 »
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This gets me wet every time I see it

Ask and ye shall receive xD

F Row! Love your work and look forward to more updates :)

Thanks man, I'm definitely excited to finish this project :D

Sorta like a TX-CP, but different enough due to the F row without gaps.  With reduces bezels (especiallyat the top) you have yourself a winner.  I was looking forward to the KIRA 96key but I already have a board in that layout, but no compact 1800 style board so I'd probably be in!

I'm glad you like it! I used to scoff at big bezels, but after a while I started thinking thin bezels look so generic when looking straight down on it (IMO). Maybe it's because I'm currently using a TX-1800, but I don't think it will look as good with thin bezels. Anyway, I reduced the top bezel by 4mm, and I think it fits the necessary bottom bezel (because of the arrow keys offset).


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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 19:53:58 »
I'm really digging that insert design! :thumb: :thumb:

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:06:48 »
This looks so clean, very excited to see where this goes!  :thumb:
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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 22 July 2017, 22:07:14 »

I'm glad you like it! I used to scoff at big bezels, but after a while I started thinking thin bezels look so generic when looking straight down on it (IMO). Maybe it's because I'm currently using a TX-1800, but I don't think it will look as good with thin bezels. Anyway, I reduced the top bezel by 4mm, and I think it fits the necessary bottom bezel (because of the arrow keys offset).

The updated CAD drawings look nice.  I think the bezels are spot on there. 
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 23 July 2017, 11:39:38 »
I'm really digging that insert design! :thumb: :thumb:

The idea came from Krytone  :thumb:

This looks so clean, very excited to see where this goes!  :thumb:

Thanks! Hopefully a working PCB by August so I can start using it! I'll probably go for a black one for the next kit  :D


I'm glad you like it! I used to scoff at big bezels, but after a while I started thinking thin bezels look so generic when looking straight down on it (IMO). Maybe it's because I'm currently using a TX-1800, but I don't think it will look as good with thin bezels. Anyway, I reduced the top bezel by 4mm, and I think it fits the necessary bottom bezel (because of the arrow keys offset).

The updated CAD drawings look nice.  I think the bezels are spot on there. 

Good to know that it's a step in the right direction, thank you.


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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 08:54:26 »
New photos uploaded! My friend finally had the time to take tons of photos, unfortunately he hasn't seen a numpad for years and I was busy ordering pizza and gaming on my phone so... there's a little mistake in the layout.  :p



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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:22:26 »
Cool to see you moving over to custom boards.  1800 is great, looking forward to seeing more of that!  :thumb:

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:04:10 »
well, I'm watching this to see what comes out :)

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:16:02 »
Cool to see you moving over to custom boards.  1800 is great, looking forward to seeing more of that!  :thumb:

Thanks man, and your project is looking great :thumb:

well, I'm watching this to see what comes out :)

Hopefully something I can use in the near future  ;D


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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:18:55 »
Hopefully something I can use in the near future  ;D


I'm pretty sure of it, seeing that the Kira 96 isn't that far off into the future anymore... :)

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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:31:28 »
into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:48:50 »
Nice! I really like this layout.

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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 23:46:31 »
i'm super excited for this kit... probably buy 2, one for the wife and one for work!
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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 00:20:05 »
unfortunately he hasn't seen a numpad for years:p

and "Z" and "X" :D

But looks really great. Watching to see how that proto 2 turns out, specifically that weight design!

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:39:59 »
into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

Thanks man, Skully said he can design PCBs so I hope it works out!  :thumb:

into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

i'm super excited for this kit... probably buy 2, one for the wife and one for work!

Sounds great! Glad you guys like it :)

and "Z" and "X" :D

But looks really great. Watching to see how that proto 2 turns out, specifically that weight design!

Damn I missed that too  :))


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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 18:20:25 »
I am waiting for KIRA to have my first 96key keyboard. I am IN.


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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:56:34 »
This looks perfect! Can't wait for it to come to fruition!

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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 21:10:37 »
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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 21:12:30 »
 Looks great dude! Should this ever get to a group buy stage I’d love a black version with green accents to go with my Terminal set.


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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 12:18:26 »
into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

Thanks man, Skully said he can design PCBs so I hope it works out!  :thumb:



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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 12:29:51 »
into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

Thanks man, Skully said he can design PCBs so I hope it works out!  :thumb:




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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 07:09:16 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.











Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D


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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 07:12:28 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.

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Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D

SWEET!!!

love the angles and the weight design... when, where and how much?

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 08:50:25 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.

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Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D

SWEET!!!

love the angles and the weight design... when, where and how much?

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)


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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 08:52:51 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.

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Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D

SWEET!!!

love the angles and the weight design... when, where and how much?

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)


options for just the case too?

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:18:02 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.

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Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D

SWEET!!!

love the angles and the weight design... when, where and how much?

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)


options for just the case too?

Not really planning to offer a 60% PCB, which is why I shifted my focus to this for now, since the PCB and the plate can be acquired just about anywhere.


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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:36:01 »
Still have to find a suitable PCB for the compact 1800, but here's my other design for a 60%, The KIRA60 FE. These photos were taken from the factory, and hopefully I will receive the board tomorrow or the next day.

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Excited to see this board in person, hopefully all my measurements are correct (again)  ;D

SWEET!!!

love the angles and the weight design... when, where and how much?

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)


options for just the case too?

Not really planning to offer a 60% PCB, which is why I shifted my focus to this for now, since the PCB and the plate can be acquired just about anywhere.


great. makes total sense :)

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 10:10:02 »

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)

I don't see an area for underglow like with the Kira.  Is that just for the renders or does this one not have it?
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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 10:14:47 »

I'd like to build a working prototype first before I start thinking about that :)

I don't see an area for underglow like with the Kira.  Is that just for the renders or does this one not have it?

No underglow for this  :)


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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 10:21:35 »
60% BAD


96key GOOD

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just kidding obviously haha do what you what but dat 96 key : :thumb:
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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 10:43:28 »
into this for sure! lookin good! also Skullydaze from clueboard also does PCB's, he might be able to help you out

Thanks man, Skully said he can design PCBs so I hope it works out!  :thumb:




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Same for my s65x PCB :)
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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 20:25:36 »
60% BAD


96key GOOD

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just kidding obviously haha do what you what but dat 96 key : :thumb:
Haha, the 60% might be the thing that helps the EX along :)


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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 11 August 2017, 16:30:08 »
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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 11 August 2017, 19:20:59 »
Just curious, what will become of the "original" KIRA?  Are there any plans to develop that?

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 11 August 2017, 22:26:56 »
Just curious, what will become of the "original" KIRA?  Are there any plans to develop that?

Input Club is developing it at the moment, and most of the legwork will come from them. I still have some ideas so I'm just making things I want.


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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 10:47:11 »
Just curious, what will become of the "original" KIRA?  Are there any plans to develop that?

Input Club is developing it at the moment, and most of the legwork will come from them. I still have some ideas so I'm just making things I want.

Nice.  I thought I'd heard that but I couldn't remember and didn't want to assume anything.

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« Reply #46 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 11:44:16 »
Just curious, what will become of the "original" KIRA?  Are there any plans to develop that?

Input Club is developing it at the moment, and most of the legwork will come from them. I still have some ideas so I'm just making things I want.

Are they developing it in conjunction with MD? Or is this going to be completely I:C?
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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 11:48:40 »
not gonna lie, those pictures are beautiful

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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 12:43:44 »
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Re: KIRA keyboards
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 12:44:48 »
Side question here...

Is there a way to setup an RSS so that you never miss when group buys go live? I would love to get into RSS feeds but I don't know how.
  
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