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This is a group buy for the 96KEE by mehkee.com. The 96KEE is a small revision of the keyboard kit formerly known as the GSX96.

Quick update - the first two batches of orders (~95 units) have been placed with the manufacturer. I'm trying to get a sample quickly produced to make sure all the changes to R1 are as expected. Then production on the two sets of orders placed will begin (timeline still as expected) - all orders up until 8/9 have been submitted. To-date total of ordered kits is 120 (large majority are titanium grey, black, and silver, only a smattering of blue/red).

Why the extension?: Just another week and a half to give a few more people the chance to order. I've had quite a few messages asking for a little bit extra time to place the order and given we do not have a specific MOQ and the orders are placed on a rolling basis, I have no issues opening it up to more people.

Click here to join the Group Buy: 96kee.click or https://mehkee.com/products/96kee

For those who are new to this kit - here is a quick overview of the kit and some specifications:
Full Kit comes with:
  • Aluminum Case (colors offered: Silver, Black, Titanium Grey, Blue, Red)
  • Aluminum Plate
  • Aluminum Feet
  • Black / Gold PCB
  • Genuine PCB-mount Cherry Stabilizers (6 x 2u, 1 x 6.25u)

Additional Details:
  • 8/23 update: new PCB layout (expands on the original, now supports some additional bottom row configs and split backspace), still going to be in black/gold- click here to go to the post with the render
  • Slotted acrylic diffusers on all four sides of the case
  • PS2AVRGB PCB with RGB underglow
  • Supports PCB-mount and plate-mount MX switches
  • Approximate case/plate/PCB weight = 2.0 lbs (shipping weight of full kit is higher)
  • Approximate case dimensions  = 14.6" (W) x 4.9" (D) x 0.9" (H)
  • Case/plate and extra PCBs are available for purchase alone (no feet or stabilizers)

For those familiar with the GSX96, the kit is virtually identical save for a few small changes:
  • Black / Gold PCB - the same layout is supported
  • Additional standoffs and holes for improved stability - ~9 total
  • Flat bottom of the case - the prior version had a small groove for a thin engraved plate, this version will have a clean bottom

A note on international shipping: yes it's expensive and we're sorry we can't do better on the shipping prices - the estimated weight including box and packaging is over 3lbs. This pricing is based on the weight/location and auto-calculated via USPS rates. Based on other GBs, the rates that people have been e-mailing/messaging to say are absurd are actually in-line with the only other option being an upgrade to DHL Express (even more expensive). USPS Priority / USPS Priority International (both have tracking and insurance) are the only options we will provide for this kit.

Estimated Timeline
  • GB open: 7/24 - 8/16 (production will start before the end of the GB, earlier orders will be produced first)
  • Production: ~12 weeks from end of GB
  • Shipping to Mehkee: mid-October
  • Shipping to you: by end of October for the earlier orders

Thanks and as always, please comment or e-mail us with any questions!

Below are some pictures of the R1 kit and builds by our awesome customers - more available on the website.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 24 July 2017, 23:14:34 »
8/16: See update at top of first post, first two batches of orders have been submitted, deadline until end of GB orders is extended until 11:59pm ET on 8/25.
10/29: Shipping from factory expected Wednesday!
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 24 July 2017, 23:55:41 »
Nice board. I've seen the ones from taobao for $90 and it seems to be great value!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 00:06:13 »
I used the round 1 version and really liked it. Round 2 version can only be better.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 00:44:09 »
The ability to deliver such a keyboard at this pricepoint is impressive. Very tempting!

Also, I see you carry holtite sockets in your store, will this round of PCBs support them?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 00:47:02 »
The ability to deliver such a keyboard at this pricepoint is impressive. Very tempting!

Also, I see you carry holtite sockets in your store, will this round of PCBs support them?

Unfortunately no, maybe a point to contemplate for the next round, but generally hard to do for cheap unless you're piggy backing off a previous design that has switch pin cutouts the perfect size (and then there is the debate/process to figure out if it supports gold or tin-lead given both have a slight difference in thickness of contact plating).

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 06:18:18 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 07:34:56 »
Nice design and great price, but it doesn't look like this plate supports 3x 1u to the right of space bar.  My search for the perfect 96key continues...

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 08:18:35 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

It's a heavy board, shipping any kind of thing like this is going to be expensive to AU. Considering the major competitor, ZZ96, is double the price without shipping, does $35 really break you on this decision?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 08:19:25 »
Jumped in this morning!  Thanks for the follow-through cynviloq!
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:19:28 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Jumped in this morning!  Thanks for the follow-through cynviloq!

We're happy we could get this organized and going! The main motivation was actually from all the folks in the original thread who mentioned they wanted one and missed out.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 12:00:27 »
Wasn't gonna jump in on this but at the price its just too hard to pass up!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:07:06 »
I'm in for a black one! Might have to wait for those "Tealios" switches though...


What software will the PCB use?
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:13:42 »
I think he said PS2AVRGB for programming support.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:17:32 »
Can you let us know if the color of the blue kit is the same one as in the picture on your site?
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:30:36 »
I'm in for a black one! Might have to wait for those "Tealios" switches though...


What software will the PCB use?

As E.E.L mentioned, PS2AVRGB so you can use BootMapper or whatever your favorite GUI is.

Can you let us know if the color of the blue kit is the same one as in the picture on your site?

Yes - the blue kit is the same as the second from the right in the kit with 4 cases. That was the blue produced in R1 and it has not been changed.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:51:02 »


Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Just my $.02 on shipping, east coast to west coast for a 20x10x4 box weighing 2.5lbs is only $20.75 with $160 insurance and $2.50 packing materials cost factored in, and it only gets cheaper the closer the shipping zone, and shipping the same box to Aus via First Class International is $34.56 with the same $2.50 for materials, though no insurance that I'm aware of. So yeah, $20 to Aus isn't possible, under $40 is probably possible tho, and it should def be possible to get a smaller(albeit heavier) box to the west coast for $20, though I can't get an exact price atm since my internet barely handles GH.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 13:54:18 »


Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Just my $.02 on shipping, east coast to west coast for a 20x10x4 box weighing 2.5lbs is only $20.75 with $160 insurance and $2.50 packing materials cost factored in, and it only gets cheaper the closer the shipping zone, and shipping the same box to Aus via First Class International is $34.56 with the same $2.50 for materials, though no insurance that I'm aware of. So yeah, $20 to Aus isn't possible, under $40 is probably possible tho, and it should def be possible to get a smaller(albeit heavier) box to the west coast for $20, though I can't get an exact price atm since my internet barely handles GH.

Yes, I know. The stated weight in the description for the whole package is estimated to be ~3.5 lbs. We aren't willing to ship these keyboards without insurance so Priority Mail is the only option here.

The shipping costs are auto-calculated based on zone. Many on the East Coast (we're based in NYC) are paying as little as $14 for PM shipping.

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 14:19:30 »


Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Just my $.02 on shipping, east coast to west coast for a 20x10x4 box weighing 2.5lbs is only $20.75 with $160 insurance and $2.50 packing materials cost factored in, and it only gets cheaper the closer the shipping zone, and shipping the same box to Aus via First Class International is $34.56 with the same $2.50 for materials, though no insurance that I'm aware of. So yeah, $20 to Aus isn't possible, under $40 is probably possible tho, and it should def be possible to get a smaller(albeit heavier) box to the west coast for $20, though I can't get an exact price atm since my internet barely handles GH.

Yes, I know. The stated weight in the description for the whole package is estimated to be ~3.5 lbs. We aren't willing to ship these keyboards without insurance so Priority Mail is the only option here.

The shipping costs are auto-calculated based on zone. Many on the East Coast (we're based in NYC) are paying as little as $14 for PM shipping.

Checking out your site, I got $11.06 shipping, so not bad. The 3.5lbs does seem like a lot, that's like 1.5lbs of packaging if the board itself is 2lbs? That's a lot imo, since the 20104 boxes I mentioned before are themselves 10oz, and with Coniferous I ended up with maybe 2-3oz of bubblewrap to secure the sets in the boxes. Considering you'll have smaller boxes, mayhaps a 1664, I'm certain that you can't possibly be using 3/4 of a pound of bubblewrap since that's like 50ft. With some dense packing foam that could maybe weigh that much, but I'm still not certain.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 14:45:34 »
I mailed a GSX96 to AUS with a healthy bit of that foam wrap that's popular in China and it came to 2 lb 12 oz. 3/4 of a pound difference seems excessive.

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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:23:26 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

It's a heavy board, shipping any kind of thing like this is going to be expensive to AU. Considering the major competitor, ZZ96, is double the price without shipping, does $35 really break you on this decision?

It is when original GSX96 was $90 + drop shipping via DHL.

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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:27:46 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(
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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:41:43 »
Joined this morning, also!  Thank you so much for putting this together!!!

The painful wait begins...........

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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:50:59 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(

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« Reply #24 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:56:09 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(

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Kind of makes the 10% switch discount redundant doesnt it??!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:35:34 »
Hi everyone - thanks for your comments and I hear your concerns.

USPS PM shipping is calculated via weight and zone/distance in increments of 1lb (i.e. 3.1lbs and 3.5lbs and 3.9lbs are all charged at a 4lb shipping rate).

I mailed a GSX96 to AUS with a healthy bit of that foam wrap that's popular in China and it came to 2 lb 12 oz. 3/4 of a pound difference seems excessive.

Thanks for the comparison. Can I ask what all accessories it included (assuming aluminum feet and full stabilizer set?). Our plan is to have boxes made to fit the 96KEE (with foam and/or bubblewrap), as well as a bit of room in case anyone adds switches and other accessories to their order. Even the addition of 4.5oz would automatically bump it to the 4lb weight class which is what all the kit orders are based off right now if you check shipping for just the Full Kit. We are allowing ourselves a bit of room in case we decide to use a sturdier material or heavier packaging.

If you have an issue, then I do not mind if you do not participate in this Group Buy. I'm sorry it has priced out Australians, but for Americans participating in Group Buys that originate from the other side of the pacific, we are used to paying $50-60+ for shipping to the US for kits alone and it's unfortunate for y'all that it's reversed this time. (a quick check of recent GB prices $45-90 from Malaysia/China/Korea to the US for weights ranging from 3-6lbs).

$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

It's a heavy board, shipping any kind of thing like this is going to be expensive to AU. Considering the major competitor, ZZ96, is double the price without shipping, does $35 really break you on this decision?

It is when original GSX96 was $90 + drop shipping via DHL.

If you find an equivalent board or group buy that will be cheaper for you, then by all means please join it. I am not forcing anyone to participate in this group buy and would not want anyone to join if there was a cheaper option for them elsewhere!

$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(



Kind of makes the 10% switch discount redundant doesnt it??!

You can buy your switches from elsewhere... Not all group buys and items and shops are going to be able to be a financial home run for everyone in the world (or at least from my perspective -- perhaps I'm not wise enough or capable enough to figure it out) so this seems to be the case for potential ex-US buyers in this Group Buy.

~110 Zealios adds ~ 7.5oz which in this case would push the package into the 5lb tier which is why there is an increase in the shipping fee. The shipping fees are auto-generate by Shopify based on weight and location according the USPS schedule with a small margin to account for packaging materials. If TerryMathews can ship it for cheaper then maybe he could purchase it for you and send it to you?

If the group buy is not in your price range, then you do not need to join. Unfortunately I cannot lower the shipping price to Australia to $20 and I hope perhaps someone in Australia will one day run a GB of a kit for y'all that makes the overall price cheaper.

I really do appreciate the feedback, but I don't think these prices are beyond reality.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:44:44 »

You can buy your switches from elsewhere... Not all group buys and items and shops are going to be able to be a financial home run for everyone in the world (or at least from my perspective -- perhaps I'm not wise enough or capable enough to figure it out) so this seems to be the case for potential ex-US buyers in this Group Buy.

~110 Zealios adds ~ 7.5oz which in this case would push the package into the 5lb tier which is why there is an increase in the shipping fee. The shipping fees are auto-generate by Shopify based on weight and location according the USPS schedule with a small margin to account for packaging materials. If TerryMathews can ship it for cheaper then maybe he could purchase it for you and send it to you?

If the group buy is not in your price range, then you do not need to join. Unfortunately I cannot lower the shipping price to Australia to $20 and I hope perhaps someone in Australia will one day run a GB of a kit for y'all that makes the overall price cheaper.

I really do appreciate the feedback, but I don't think these prices are beyond reality.

Hi cynviloq,

Thanks for hearing our concerns.

I understand $20USD is not reasonable for shipping such a weight, I just think $72USD prices us out of the GB which is sad :(
I had my heart set on it.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:51:06 »

You can buy your switches from elsewhere... Not all group buys and items and shops are going to be able to be a financial home run for everyone in the world (or at least from my perspective -- perhaps I'm not wise enough or capable enough to figure it out) so this seems to be the case for potential ex-US buyers in this Group Buy.

~110 Zealios adds ~ 7.5oz which in this case would push the package into the 5lb tier which is why there is an increase in the shipping fee. The shipping fees are auto-generate by Shopify based on weight and location according the USPS schedule with a small margin to account for packaging materials. If TerryMathews can ship it for cheaper then maybe he could purchase it for you and send it to you?

If the group buy is not in your price range, then you do not need to join. Unfortunately I cannot lower the shipping price to Australia to $20 and I hope perhaps someone in Australia will one day run a GB of a kit for y'all that makes the overall price cheaper.

I really do appreciate the feedback, but I don't think these prices are beyond reality.

Hi cynviloq,

Thanks for hearing our concerns.

I understand $20USD is not reasonable for shipping such a weight, I just think $72USD prices us out of the GB which is sad :(
I had my heart set on it.

I know and I'm very sorry - but for the kit alone, I do not believe ~$50 is outrageous for USPS Priority Mail with tracking and insurance.

Please understand that for all my orders, if the actual weight calculated at the end of the day moves to a different tier, they are refunded the difference in tiers automatically. I just can't promise that because we have set an approximation and would not feel comfortable saying that you may get a refund on shipping once the kits are in. Sure it could happen, but I don't know the likelihood.

In any case, even if it were to move down a tier (to the 3lb tier), the difference would be ~$10 for Priority Mail - which if the $10 difference (5% of the total cost) is what is keeping you from participating, then purchasing a $200+ keyboard is probably not a wise financial decision.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 18:50:52 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

It's a heavy board, shipping any kind of thing like this is going to be expensive to AU. Considering the major competitor, ZZ96, is double the price without shipping, does $35 really break you on this decision?

It is when original GSX96 was $90 + drop shipping via DHL.

And its not like the 'improvements' are significant.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm Have fun Brett.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 19:25:53 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

It's a heavy board, shipping any kind of thing like this is going to be expensive to AU. Considering the major competitor, ZZ96, is double the price without shipping, does $35 really break you on this decision?

It is when original GSX96 was $90 + drop shipping via DHL.

And its not like the 'improvements' are significant.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm Have fun Brett.

1) That's just the PCB, and it's the bad red one. The new one has an improved black/gold PCB.

2) Shipping to Australia is $50 for any keyboard kit, not just this one. There's a reason we make jokes about the "Australia tax." This kit is cheaper than almost every other 96 out there (except the welfare96, which is acrylic, and the YMD96, which is a sandwich case). The thing to be mad at here is the price of freight, not Mehkee. I did some checking with other carriers and even DHL is like $40. The new GSX is also thicker and has more mounting points than the original.

Ordering through a proxy might reduce your shipping cost.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 20:14:47 »
In for a full kit in black, really like the features and design of this. Hoping to pair this with GMK Laser eventually.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 20:35:16 »
Meh
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 20:39:46 »

And its not like the 'improvements' are significant.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm Have fun Brett.


wait what... Is that the same? Mehkee should make a profit, but what exactly are we paying for?


Also can somebody explain the value of a black/gold pcb, when you can't even see the PCB...
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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 20:49:05 »
1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88251.0

2) I actually live in australia and shipping has never exceeded $50 usd for anything (they are usually $45 for 3kgs from US, $30 for SK/SEA) but lets defend someone that is already blatantly flipping taobao products for 80%+ markup!

That topic links to the same Taobao listing. It's just plate or PCB. I can read the Chinese, but Google translate should confirm.

Mehkee worked to improve the existing product. I was talking to him about it the entire time. He is most definitely NOT flipping Taobao products for a quick profit in this case.


And its not like the 'improvements' are significant.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm Have fun Brett.


wait what... Is that the same? Mehkee should make a profit, but what exactly are we paying for?

It's the PCB or plate for the old version. The new version has an entirely new PCB and plate.

Quote
Also can somebody explain the value of a black/gold pcb, when you can't even see the PCB...

The red PCB was a principal complaint from the last round. It doesn't look very good, and it wasn't the best quality. Cynviloq tells me the new PCB looks (in his own words), "baller" and is better quality.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 20:56:05 »
1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88251.0

2) I actually live in australia and shipping has never exceeded $50 usd for anything (they are usually $45 for 3kgs from US, $30 for SK/SEA) but lets defend someone that is already blatantly flipping taobao products for 80%+ markup!

That topic links to the same Taobao listing. It's just plate or PCB. I can read the Chinese, but Google translate should confirm.

Mehkee worked to improve the existing product. I was talking to him about it the entire time. He is most definitely NOT flipping Taobao products for a quick profit in this case.


And its not like the 'improvements' are significant.

https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm Have fun Brett.


wait what... Is that the same? Mehkee should make a profit, but what exactly are we paying for?

It's the PCB or plate for the old version. The new version has an entirely new PCB and plate.

Quote
Also can somebody explain the value of a black/gold pcb, when you can't even see the PCB...

The red PCB was a principal complaint from the last round. It doesn't look very good, and it wasn't the best quality. Cynviloq tells me the new PCB looks (in his own words), "baller" and is better quality.

Hmmm... I'm going to need some clarification or I'm going to cancel my order, because this is getting a bit sketchy imo. In the other thread cynviloq is saying he's never seen the PCB before

Again, I understand people need to make a profit, but it's seeming more and more like this is just a proxy service.
 

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 21:02:14 »
Hasn't been produced yet =/= he's never seen it (pre-production sample, perhaps?). He clearly says the new version will be black and gold.

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[GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 21:16:15 »
Waiting on my two acrylic GSX96 that I bought direct from the Taobao seller that cynviloq recommended me too. Supposed to have rev 2 PCB as well. I'll jump in after I examine how this previous kit fits together.

Definitely will be in for two if it works out perfectly.

Would these Aluminum housing fit the rev 2 PCB? In case we would want to switch the housing from acrylic to Aluminum on a whim. 

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 25 July 2017, 22:23:14 »
Hmmm... I'm going to need some clarification or I'm going to cancel my order, because this is getting a bit sketchy imo. In the other thread cynviloq is saying he's never seen the PCB before

Again, I understand people need to make a profit, but it's seeming more and more like this is just a proxy service.
 

Hasn't been produced yet =/= he's never seen it (pre-production sample, perhaps?). He clearly says the new version will be black and gold.


He hasn't seen it but he predicts that it will look baller.

I should have been more clear, sorry.

From what he's told me, it'll look something like zeal65 PCB, but I CANNOT CONFIRM. I just know it'll be black and gold.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:15:59 »
There won't be gold tracing like Zeal's PCB and I wouldn't compare it to his.

Here is a sample production picture - I don't have final pictures as it's still being revised with the proper standoff holes for the 96 key layout. It's not that I haven't seen the PCB before and of course it hasn't been produced - the Group Buy is still running?



This is the factory's first time producing PCBs in this colorway. Yes, it is a value factory relative to other PCB manufacturers so they do not have a wide range of production samples that we can choose from and view.

Hkf's link (the original round) doesn't have cases available anymore, the prior round was run at a significant loss to the original group buy runner on TaoBao. I reached out to him to convince him to do an R2 after feedback on both the GSX96 thread and Reddit.

If there is a proxy on TB that you would like to purchase through, please do so, though I'm not sure there will be one as I won't be asking for proxies and the original GB runner has told me he plans to only run more cases for this GB (verbal agreement).

If you find this to be "sketchy", then please don't participate if you believe it to be risky as it is a group buy.

Again, I am not forcing anyone to participate and I'm generally pretty transparent about not only my business but my group buys. If you have questions please feel free to keep asking them.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:17:47 »
Waiting on my two acrylic GSX96 that I bought direct from the Taobao seller that cynviloq recommended me too. Supposed to have rev 2 PCB as well. I'll jump in after I examine how this previous kit fits together.

Definitely will be in for two if it works out perfectly.

Would these Aluminum housing fit the rev 2 PCB? In case we would want to switch the housing from acrylic to Aluminum on a whim. 

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The standoffs from the Acrylic Kit should match up for the aluminum case, but I can't guarantee it... At the minimum you should be able to use at least 5 of the overlapping standoffs that were carried over from the first PCB to both of these rev 2.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:19:22 »
Meh

If you do have concerns with how I operate my business, I'm always happy to discuss and listen to criticisms - feel free to PM or e-mail me.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:45:19 »
Waiting on my two acrylic GSX96 that I bought direct from the Taobao seller that cynviloq recommended me too. Supposed to have rev 2 PCB as well. I'll jump in after I examine how this previous kit fits together.

Definitely will be in for two if it works out perfectly.

Would these Aluminum housing fit the rev 2 PCB? In case we would want to switch the housing from acrylic to Aluminum on a whim. 

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The standoffs from the Acrylic Kit should match up for the aluminum case, but I can't guarantee it... At the minimum you should be able to use at least 5 of the overlapping standoffs that were carried over from the first PCB to both of these rev 2.

Thanks! If anything I'll wait a bit until I have the PCB on hand in a few days / next week and try to match up with the aluminum housing that you have depicted. I definitely want an aluminum kit, just don't know if I should go in for extra or not.


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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:15:41 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(

Isn't the kit for this cheaper than the one you bought on mechmarket though?
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 16:17:53 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(

Isn't the kit for this cheaper than the one you bought on mechmarket though?

No, the kit on mechmarket was cheaper.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 21:34:12 »
$55 for shipping to AU @_@
Purchase is kill.

Was so keen but will have to pass, if there is any way to bring it down to $20 then we can dance.

Sorry mate - if we could ship this for $20 across the ocean, we certainly would, but at this weight we can't even ship it across the country to the West Coast for $20 (ranges anywhere between $20-23).

Yes, shipping to Australia has also killed it for me on this buy.

It is $52 to Australia, but if you also add switches in your order.. it jumps to $72 for shipping!!

I was the Australian that terrymatthews sent the kit to, and i love this keyboard, so i was was very keen on purchasing a second :(

Isn't the kit for this cheaper than the one you bought on mechmarket though?

Not after shipping, because I didn't pad mine with an extra pound of weight...

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (aka GSX96 R2)
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 11:19:51 »
Just a quick update - about 48 kits ordered so far with the large majority being Black and Titanium Grey! For those ordering 3+ kits each, I do not envy your soldering parties.

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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 13:17:29 »
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 21:46:09 »
Is titanium grey the one pictured on the bottom right of the last picture on this image? Or is that the black?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1799/1839/products/pIQfYWZ_1024x1024.jpg?v=1500952298

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 21:56:41 »
That's titanium gray. I have an r1 titanium gray case. It's fairly dark but you won't mistake it for black in person :)
           

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 22:08:51 »
Is titanium grey the one pictured on the bottom right of the last picture on this image? Or is that the black?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1799/1839/products/pIQfYWZ_1024x1024.jpg?v=1500952298

Trying to gauge how dark the grey really is (I like my greys darkkkkk)

The set of built kit pictures on the brown background is also Titanium Grey!

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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 27 July 2017, 22:57:55 »
Oooh, perfect. That's the grey I like!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:11:08 »
Hey :D is that my board?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 14:23:32 »
Do we know exactly what layouts will be supported. I want to join the Godspeed drop and am not exactly sure what to order. Is the spacebar 6u or 7u.



 
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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 04 August 2017, 14:28:04 »
Do we know exactly what layouts will be supported. I want to join the Godspeed drop and am not exactly sure what to order. Is the spacebar 6u or 7u.

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Space is standard 6.25u

Bottom row is 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.5-1.5

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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 11:10:21 »
This looks great. One question about the layout though, where's the backslash?

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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 11:53:09 »
This looks great. One question about the layout though, where's the backslash?

Default layout backslash is under Backspace - the layout shown on the black keyboard in the pictures is my personal one and I use an HHKB-style layout so the keys are a little different.

The PCB will come pre-flashed with a default layout akin to a normal 96-key board.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 14:43:19 »
Is this a high profile case?  Looking at the sample images it looks to be but just wanted to make sure.

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« Reply #58 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 16:19:51 »
Is this a high profile case?  Looking at the sample images it looks to be but just wanted to make sure.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 19:51:42 »
Is this a high profile case?  Looking at the sample images it looks to be but just wanted to make sure.

It is.

Thanks!  One other question.

Is the PCB used in this board readily available in the market or is it a good idea to buy an extra pcb with the group buy? 


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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 06 August 2017, 22:29:44 »
Is this a high profile case?  Looking at the sample images it looks to be but just wanted to make sure.

It is.

Thanks!  One other question.

Is the PCB used in this board readily available in the market or is it a good idea to buy an extra pcb with the group buy? 


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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 02:56:52 »
Anyone know if the PCB with this group buy happens to be from the same manufacturer as the recent 96-key group buy on Reddit?


The PCB from that buy was surprisingly good quality.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 03:01:49 »
Anyone know if the PCB with this group buy happens to be from the same manufacturer as the recent 96-key group buy on Reddit?


The PCB from that buy was surprisingly good quality.

Not sure who the manufacturer of any of the recent 96-key group buys (there were a few for acrylic / plastic cases), but it is the same as the original round 1.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 08:19:56 »
Can this pcb support a layout similar to the below?




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« Reply #64 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 10:17:00 »
Could you please post a clear picture of the PCB? Do we have any options in terms of layout or is the one shown the only option?


Here are a couple more examples of 96 layouts

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 12:13:22 »
Could you please post a clear picture of the PCB? Do we have any options in terms of layout or is the one shown the only option?


Here are a couple more examples of 96 layouts

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Hi - did you check the actual link to the product? The first picture shows the plate and PCB clearly. I think most of your limitation is the plate, but the PCB does not support split backspace.

With respect to both of your links, a 7u is possible for the PCB but not the plate that it come with. The PCB does not support 1.5-1-1.5 on the right side as far as I can tell.

I'm happy to take another picture of the PCB but it would be redundant to what is in the product link with the plate overlaid.
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« Reply #66 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 12:22:49 »
Can this pcb support a layout similar to the below?

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Not entirely - you can look at the first picture on the product link to see layouts supported.

The plate/PCB supports the full Shift and split '+' on the Numpad, however on the bottom row the right of the Spacebar you can really only do 1.5-1.5-1-1 due to the PCB.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 15:33:15 »
Could you please post a clear picture of the PCB? Do we have any options in terms of layout or is the one shown the only option?


Here are a couple more examples of 96 layouts

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Hi - did you check the actual link to the product? The first picture shows the plate and PCB clearly. I think most of your limitation is the plate, but the PCB does not support split backspace.

With respect to both of your links, a 7u is possible for the PCB but not the plate that it come with. The PCB does not support 1.5-1-1.5 on the right side as far as I can tell.

I'm happy to take another picture of the PCB but it would be redundant to what is in the product link with the plate overlaid.


I'm a bit confused now. I went back and looked at the picture/plate combo and it looks identical to RS96 board/plate and they were able to support a few different layouts, including the one OmegaSupreme was asking about.

This is important to understand as it directly effects what key caps need to be ordered and as you well know there's only a small window to order for group buys.






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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:27:32 »
Could you please post a clear picture of the PCB? Do we have any options in terms of layout or is the one shown the only option?


Here are a couple more examples of 96 layouts

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Hi - did you check the actual link to the product? The first picture shows the plate and PCB clearly. I think most of your limitation is the plate, but the PCB does not support split backspace.

With respect to both of your links, a 7u is possible for the PCB but not the plate that it come with. The PCB does not support 1.5-1-1.5 on the right side as far as I can tell.

I'm happy to take another picture of the PCB but it would be redundant to what is in the product link with the plate overlaid.


I'm a bit confused now. I went back and looked at the picture/plate combo and it looks identical to RS96 board/plate and they were able to support a few different layouts, including the one OmegaSupreme was asking about.

This is important to understand as it directly effects what key caps need to be ordered and as you well know there's only a small window to order for group buys.


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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-iii-ver-a-96-key-custom-keyboard-kit

use your eyes please



redscarf PCB, which supports your weird layout

see that it has three options in one spot



GSX

see that it only has 1 option in two spots

hence, does not support the layout
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 08 August 2017, 09:38:02 »
Could you please post a clear picture of the PCB? Do we have any options in terms of layout or is the one shown the only option?


Here are a couple more examples of 96 layouts

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Hi - did you check the actual link to the product? The first picture shows the plate and PCB clearly. I think most of your limitation is the plate, but the PCB does not support split backspace.

With respect to both of your links, a 7u is possible for the PCB but not the plate that it come with. The PCB does not support 1.5-1-1.5 on the right side as far as I can tell.

I'm happy to take another picture of the PCB but it would be redundant to what is in the product link with the plate overlaid.


I'm a bit confused now. I went back and looked at the picture/plate combo and it looks identical to RS96 board/plate and they were able to support a few different layouts, including the one OmegaSupreme was asking about.

This is important to understand as it directly effects what key caps need to be ordered and as you well know there's only a small window to order for group buys.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/red-scarf-iii-ver-a-96-key-custom-keyboard-kit

I think Puddsy hit the main point which is that the PCBs are not similar. I think the picture that you displayed of 96KEE is pretty evident of the layout, however I will try to make a layout in layouteditor to show the possibilities (which are not that wide from the standard 96-key layout).

As mentioned before, the default bottom row is 1.5-1.5-6.25-1.5-1.5.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:28:42 »
Snap, I wish there was a cyan case option, would love to match my Ocean Dolch caps to it.  :blank:

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:40:20 »
Anyword on if this will fit a ZZ96 PCB? I have an acrylic ZZ96 that needs to go metal

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 09 August 2017, 21:09:17 »
Anyword on if this will fit a ZZ96 PCB? I have an acrylic ZZ96 that needs to go metal

Do you mind sharing a picture of the ZZ96 PCB? I'm not sure and cannot guarantee the compatibility but happy to take a look.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 11:48:02 »
I have kind of a silly question, I'm a bit new to buying kits.
I see there is translucent plastic on the sides of the body for LEDs but I don't see anything about the kit coming with LEDs. Do I need to buy those separately?
Edit: Another question, is it possible to change the Delete key to a backslash key?
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 12 August 2017, 13:17:26 »
I have kind of a silly question, I'm a bit new to buying kits.
I see there is translucent plastic on the sides of the body for LEDs but I don't see anything about the kit coming with LEDs. Do I need to buy those separately?
Edit: Another question, is it possible to change the Delete key to a backslash key?


The PCB has RGB underglow LEDs pre-soldered on the back of the PCB. There are spots for through hole in-key LEDs as well, but those LEDs are not provided.


Should be able to change any key to anything you want. The PS2AVRGB program allows for the user to setup the keys any way they want. Or at least that's how the PS2AVRGB program worked for me a couple weeks ago when I was setting up a 96-key I got from a different group buy.

(I'm like 92% sure the PCBs from that GB and this one are the same)

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Aluminum Kit for $165 + Shipping (ends August 16th)
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 13 August 2017, 22:15:02 »
I have kind of a silly question, I'm a bit new to buying kits.
I see there is translucent plastic on the sides of the body for LEDs but I don't see anything about the kit coming with LEDs. Do I need to buy those separately?
Edit: Another question, is it possible to change the Delete key to a backslash key?

As w.meri mentioned, RGB underglow (bottom side of the PCB) has the LEDs pre-soldered.

For normal in-switch LEDs, there is are through holes for normal 2-leg LEDs, but the LEDs themselves are not provided. (They are sold in 1.8mm and 2x3x4mm variety on the same store though).

It is possible to program all the keys, they will be flashed with a default layout -- the layout seen in the black version is a custom layout that was programmed. The default layout will have a backslash where a delete is shown.

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Hello all - a new update has been posted in the first post (at the top) stating the below:

Quick update - the first two batches of orders (~95 units) have been placed with the manufacturer. I'm trying to get a sample quickly produced to make sure all the changes to R1 are as expected. Then production on the two sets of orders placed will begin (timeline still as expected) - all orders up until 8/9 have been submitted. To-date total of ordered kits is 120 (large majority are titanium grey, black, and silver, only a smattering of blue/red).

Why the extension?: Just another week and a half to give a few more people the chance to order. I've had quite a few messages asking for a little bit extra time to place the order and given we do not have a specific MOQ and the orders are placed on a rolling basis, I have no issues opening it up to more people.

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Hello all - a new update has been posted in the first post (at the top) stating the below:

Quick update - the first two batches of orders (~95 units) have been placed with the manufacturer. I'm trying to get a sample quickly produced to make sure all the changes to R1 are as expected. Then production on the two sets of orders placed will begin (timeline still as expected) - all orders up until 8/9 have been submitted. To-date total of ordered kits is 120 (large majority are titanium grey, black, and silver, only a smattering of blue/red).

Why the extension?: Just another week and a half to give a few more people the chance to order. I've had quite a few messages asking for a little bit extra time to place the order and given we do not have a specific MOQ and the orders are placed on a rolling basis, I have no issues opening it up to more people.
Thanks for the update, looking forward to seeing the sample.

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You recommend a second PCB basically because I might fry it during the soldering process or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

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You recommend a second PCB basically because I might fry it during the soldering process or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

Some people like having an extra PCB for a bunch of reasons including what you listed.

Others also like having a second PCB that they can put alternate switches / layout on so they don't have to desolder the first to swap between them.

Or to use in other cases / builds.

It's really up to you!

Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

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You recommend a second PCB basically because I might fry it during the soldering process or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

Some people like having an extra PCB for a bunch of reasons including what you listed.

Others also like having a second PCB that they can put alternate switches / layout on so they don't have to desolder the first to swap between them.

Or to use in other cases / builds.

It's really up to you!

Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.
This is great news, having more layout options is a huge plus to this groupbuy. Thank you!

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Does this support iso layout?
I'm pretty new to the scene and can't quite figure out.

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Hi, any chance you guys will consider adding support for split space in the future runs? Only thing stopping me right now

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Hi, any chance you guys will consider adding support for split space in the future runs? Only thing stopping me right now

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Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

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Hi, any chance you guys will consider adding support for split space in the future runs? Only thing stopping me right now

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Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

Woops I'm dumb, totally missed that, tough to pass on it now...

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Hi, any chance you guys will consider adding support for split space in the future runs? Only thing stopping me right now

Quote
Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

Woops I'm dumb, totally missed that, tough to pass on it now...

Split backspace - split space won't be supported in this version. Sorry :-/

Will get a layout render here tomorrow!

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You recommend a second PCB basically because I might fry it during the soldering process or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

Some people like having an extra PCB for a bunch of reasons including what you listed.

Others also like having a second PCB that they can put alternate switches / layout on so they don't have to desolder the first to swap between them.

Or to use in other cases / builds.

It's really up to you!

Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

If you can confirm that this will in fact support split backspace, I'll hop in this right away.

Edit: nevermind, I should have kept reading.

Edit 2: still an idiot, should have really read. So to confirm, split backspace is a thing?
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You recommend a second PCB basically because I might fry it during the soldering process or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

Some people like having an extra PCB for a bunch of reasons including what you listed.

Others also like having a second PCB that they can put alternate switches / layout on so they don't have to desolder the first to swap between them.

Or to use in other cases / builds.

It's really up to you!

Also - a nice bonus, I think I've managed to get the manufacturer to change to a different base PCB (allows for split backspace and more options on the bottom row, though still limited a bit by the plate) for a marginal cost increase which I will cover.

If you can confirm that this will in fact support split backspace, I'll hop in this right away.

Edit: nevermind, I should have kept reading.

Edit 2: still an idiot, should have really read. So to confirm, split backspace is a thing?

PCB render below - this is what was sent to me as a proof:



Yes split backspace is a thing!

Everyone please also note the slightly expanded bottom row for additional layouts.

I think this is a welcome change for most participants - however if for some reason you do not agree with the changes (the original layout is unaffected) then please reach out.

The GB is open for a couple more days - currently in process of badgering the factory for the production sample, but it may be another week or two before we see it.

Thank you all for the support so far! I hope this turns out as well as the process has been to-date.

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Thanks for the updates, cynviloq! 
It's slightly concerning that the right middle and lower areas of the PCB have no standoff support compared to the other areas.  Perhaps I'm being paranoid.
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Thanks for the updates, cynviloq! 
It's slightly concerning that the right middle and lower areas of the PCB have no standoff support compared to the other areas.  Perhaps I'm being paranoid.

I think it should be okay - the prior version only had 4 standoffs and the only flex issue was on the left side. Using the prior version, I do not feel any flex on the right side, so I would not expect there to be severe issues there.

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As we approach the last 24 hours of this group buy, I just wanted to bring to people's attention that there is an agent on TaoBao running a "Round 2" of the GSX96: https://world.taobao.com/item/545282990880.htm

I originally had been speaking to this agent a couple months ago and had provided some design changes / initial steps to him as he stated that he was the factory, which was not the case. (i.e. removal of the shallow insert on the bottom of the case, change in PCB color as you see on the TB listing)

Shortly after speaking to some contacts of mine in China, I found out that he is in fact, not the factory and only a third-party agent. I did not, and do not have any issues going through an agent, but given that he had misled me to believe otherwise, I was not comfortable transferring tens of thousands of dollars to him.

A few days before the start of the GB, I broke off the arrangement with him and began working with an agent who was upfront about their relationship to the factory and has worked with me in the past (not to mention has communicated much better) - it was during this process that I was able to relay all the changes that you see listed in the first post correctly to the factory, as well as the new PCB layout and a few other small changes.

I'm giving this information because if people prefer to participate in the TB listing then I would like to give them the opportunity to do so before the 96KEE GB ends.

They seemed to have copied many of the small changes that I originally suggested, however I cannot guarantee that both products will be equal as additional changes have been made since ending the initial arrangement -- such as the PCB configuration and other various design changes meant to revert from the changes implemented in the acrylic GSX96, i.e. lack of switchtop opening in the plates, weird logo cutouts, etc.

I am hesitant to say negative things, but I would just caution that this also seems to be the same agent that misrepresented aspects of production in the Welfare96 GB to that runner and as mentioned before, also misled myself as well for a few weeks.

If you are participating in the 96KEE GB and would like to cancel your order, please e-mail me ASAP before the end of the GB and I'm happy to do so.

Thanks everyone for their orders so far and please check out the latest reddit post for giveaways! https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6vwcox/vendor_96kee_gmk_mondrian_ending_tomorrow_august/

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I'm still in on this one 100%, can't wait to get the board.

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aww, I think I just missed it.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:44:08 »
Some sample production pics - now production will start in earnest.

From the top:



Changed acrylic diffusers (new standoff placement caused the acrylic pieces to have to be adjusted


Top of PCB


Bottom of PCB



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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:13:04 »
Looks fantastic, cannot wait for this to ship!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 23:32:45 »
 :thumb: thanks for the update

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 15:45:41 »
Looks fantastic, cannot wait for this to ship!

Awesome! I'm excited. I got some request, do you have a side view and bottom of the metal case? And are you /u/mobilfunk?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 21:51:33 »
Some sample production pics - now production will start in earnest.

From the top:
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Changed acrylic diffusers (new standoff placement caused the acrylic pieces to have to be adjusted
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 14 September 2017, 10:59:43 »
Looking good! Just got my Zealios in yesterday, so I'm all ready to go!  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 15 September 2017, 12:02:26 »
Looks fantastic, cannot wait for this to ship!

Awesome! I'm excited. I got some request, do you have a side view and bottom of the metal case? And are you /u/mobilfunk?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:18:41 »
Just noticed that these will have north facing LED's. Kinda bummed about that, wanted to use tealios + zealencios with a GMK set on this board. Guess that's not going to happen.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:28:53 »
Just noticed that these will have north facing LED's. Kinda bummed about that, wanted to use tealios + zealencios with a GMK set on this board. Guess that's not going to happen.

I have Zealencios on Zealios with GMK Carbon set on the predecessor board. What are the issues that you think you'll encounter? If it's the LEDs rubbing, I would recommend using 1.8mm domed LEDs (like the ones we sell on Mehkee) to avoid issues with GMK caps.

The shorter travel is unavoidable given the Zealencios, but the caps still fit perfectly for me.


Here are some side and top images that someone requested - note that the bottom edge looks sharp and so we're going to put a diagonal edge similar to the top edge to avoid the sharpness.








^^^ this bottom edge will be smoothed out.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:35:33 »
I have read that with north-facing LEDs the travel is noticeably reduced versus south-facing (Zeal actually says they should be used south-facing on his site). Trying this with a GMK cap on a loose switch with zealencios confirmed this for me.

Not a big deal really, I'll use other switches on this board that I don't want to silence.

« Last Edit: Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:38:23 by skidude9678 »

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 23:08:58 »
Just noticed that these will have north facing LED's. Kinda bummed about that, wanted to use tealios + zealencios with a GMK set on this board. Guess that's not going to happen.

I have Zealencios on Zealios with GMK Carbon set on the predecessor board. What are the issues that you think you'll encounter? If it's the LEDs rubbing, I would recommend using 1.8mm domed LEDs (like the ones we sell on Mehkee) to avoid issues with GMK caps.

The shorter travel is unavoidable given the Zealencios, but the caps still fit perfectly for me.


Here are some side and top images that someone requested - note that the bottom edge looks sharp and so we're going to put a diagonal edge similar to the top edge to avoid the sharpness.

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^^^ this bottom edge will be smoothed out.

Looks great! Can't wait to receive mine.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 20 September 2017, 13:12:52 »
   cynviloq,

I have to say I am happy that you are making minor modifications as issues arise.  Fixing the sharp bottom edge is a nice touch and you should know it is appreciated.    :thumb:

I can't wait to start this build!!! 

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 21 September 2017, 13:57:50 »
Just noticed that these will have north facing LED's. Kinda bummed about that, wanted to use tealios + zealencios with a GMK set on this board. Guess that's not going to happen.

I have Zealencios on Zealios with GMK Carbon set on the predecessor board. What are the issues that you think you'll encounter? If it's the LEDs rubbing, I would recommend using 1.8mm domed LEDs (like the ones we sell on Mehkee) to avoid issues with GMK caps.

The shorter travel is unavoidable given the Zealencios, but the caps still fit perfectly for me.


Here are some side and top images that someone requested - note that the bottom edge looks sharp and so we're going to put a diagonal edge similar to the top edge to avoid the sharpness.

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^^^ this bottom edge will be smoothed out.

Thank you! I'm very excited for this to come.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 26 September 2017, 10:45:52 »
Thanks the pics, cynviloq! 

Just a side-question (and not sure it's been asked yet), but do you happen to know the angle for the deck?  I'm curious if I should plan to make additional standoff risers on this end to angle the deck a bit more or not when the kit shows up.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit w/ RGB (GB closed - waiting for production sample)
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 29 September 2017, 08:00:51 »
Thanks the pics, cynviloq! 

Just a side-question (and not sure it's been asked yet), but do you happen to know the angle for the deck?  I'm curious if I should plan to make additional standoff risers on this end to angle the deck a bit more or not when the kit shows up.

With the standard aluminum feet - it's around 3*

If you want any angle at all, I would suggest getting a different set of feet or making your own risers!

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Whats the latest estimate on this getting into our hands?  :)

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Whats the latest estimate on this getting into our hands?  :)

Waiting to hear some updates after the holiday in China right now. I received some built sample pictures with in-switch LED testing for the PCB so I'll share those this weekend.

We are tracking for a late October ship date from the factory. Maybe off-target by a week or two to be conservative, but impressive in my mind because we overshot our initial manufacturing projection by ~40% and are still relatively close. (does not excuse the delay, so apologies if we are slightly behind schedule)

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Cool. Looking forward to seeing those.

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Is the USB cable port micro USB or usb-c?

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Is the USB cable port micro USB or usb-c?

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Is the USB cable port micro USB or usb-c?

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Need some news on this..........please. 

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Need some news on this..........please.

I gave one a bit over a week ago... we're still tracking for a late October date for shipping to me. If you look up 4 posts, you'll see the update.

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

Sorry for the delay, I'll upload the potato pics to imgur tonight and post them here!

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

Same here!

I am in the process of lubing them. Lube removes the plasticy sounds when bottoming out. Makes it more of a thumping sound. Also slide a lot nicer when lubed.

https://i.imgur.com/Yw6vrnC.jpg

Can't wait to get them in my 96.


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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

I was thinking of heavy Zealios, but i'm open to suggestions. :)

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

I was thinking of heavy Zealios, but i'm open to suggestions. :)

Have you tried the Kailh Pro Purple or Speed Copper? Or even making your own Ergo Clears?

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Some potato pics from a friend helping to QC it:






^last pic shows the change in the edge that was a bit sharp on the first sample.

The latest update is that the cases should be done early next week and the PCBs the week after. So slight delay would be my best guess -- original estimate was that the keyboards would ship to me Mid-October, but now looking like Late October / first week of November at the very latest.

The PCBs might be done a bit early, so I'm not calling it just yet, but I'll update the main thread after this weekend once I have a better idea.

Also, I'm going to be shipping all of the keyboards out of Texas (versus NYC) from a separate location to ensure that all orders get shipped in a timely fashion (i.e. pre-hiring some extra help to make sure these ship). I think it will take a max of 3-3.5 weeks to ship all the orders once they're received, barring any QC issues.

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Oh sweet!  can you post the pics of the built sample you mentioned?

Thanks in advance!  Excited to start building ;D


Agreed! I'd also like to see a picture of a completed build.

@Davyb123music: What switches are you planning to use? I got some Outemu dark purple (67g tactile) that I'm going to try out.

I was thinking of heavy Zealios, but i'm open to suggestions. :)

Have you tried the Kailh Pro Purple or Speed Copper? Or even making your own Ergo Clears?
Never really been too sure what it is that makes an Ergo Clear. Cherry MX Clear springs and stems and some other housing? Where do you source those individual parts? I'd buy them assembled. Not sure I have the desire to open switches again. I'm still having flash backs from my last round of installing sip sockets in zealios.

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Never really been too sure what it is that makes an Ergo Clear. Cherry MX Clear springs and stems and some other housing? Where do you source those individual parts?

Ergo Clears are traditionally MX Clears with a MX Brown spring, but it often refers to MX Clears with a lighter spring (57, 62, 67 are the most popular).

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Never really been too sure what it is that makes an Ergo Clear. Cherry MX Clear springs and stems and some other housing? Where do you source those individual parts?

Ergo Clears are traditionally MX Clears with a MX Brown spring, but it often refers to MX Clears with a lighter spring (57, 62, 67 are the most popular).

Thanks! That's less complicated than I thought. I'd be curious to try some of the newer MX Clears. I hear they have some newer tooling that has made them feel less smoother/less scratchy.

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Never really been too sure what it is that makes an Ergo Clear. Cherry MX Clear springs and stems and some other housing? Where do you source those individual parts?

Ergo Clears are traditionally MX Clears with a MX Brown spring, but it often refers to MX Clears with a lighter spring (57, 62, 67 are the most popular).

Ergo clear was coined as a 62g lubed clear.

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Some potato pics from a friend helping to QC it:

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Also, I'm going to be shipping all of the keyboards out of Texas (versus NYC) from a separate location to ensure that all orders get shipped in a timely fashion (i.e. pre-hiring some extra help to make sure these ship). I think it will take a max of 3-3.5 weeks to ship all the orders once they're received, barring any QC issues.

Looking good.  Really looking forward to the kit.

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My unit is shipping via DHL now. Pretty stoked!

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My unit is shipping via DHL now. Pretty stoked!

You might be mistaken for a different group buy...

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My unit is shipping via DHL now. Pretty stoked!

You might be mistaken for a different group buy...

Is the 96kee not the same as this TB group buy?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=545282990880&spm=1101.1101.N.N.81d3042


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My unit is shipping via DHL now. Pretty stoked!

You might be mistaken for a different group buy...

Is the 96kee not the same as this TB group buy?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=545282990880&spm=1101.1101.N.N.81d3042

No, the cases are different. The PCBs may be different as well.

From my recollection, that runner has made changes to the original GSX96 that he didn't really let people know about. I hope it comes out in equal quality as before and that the features are similar.

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My unit is shipping via DHL now. Pretty stoked!

You might be mistaken for a different group buy...

Is the 96kee not the same as this TB group buy?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=545282990880&spm=1101.1101.N.N.81d3042

No, the cases are different. The PCBs may be different as well.

From my recollection, that runner has made cha
nges to the original GSX96 that he didn't really let people know about. I hope it comes out in equal quality as before and that the features are similar.

Ah ok! I got on that TB gb since I missed the deadline for yours. I saw that the reference images were the same so I figured it was the same product.

Thanks for the clarification!

Offline cynviloq

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Quick update - everything has finished and went through initial QC in the factory. Expected to ship mid-week, Hopefully get the product within 2 weeks and have it start shipping immediately after.

Thanks everyone for the patience so far.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 10:30:26 »
Quick update - everything has finished and went through initial QC in the factory. Expected to ship mid-week, Hopefully get the product within 2 weeks and have it start shipping immediately after.

Thanks everyone for the patience so far.

That's awesome! Thanks for the update.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #135 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 08:21:50 »
Quick update - the PCBs took a couple extra days and it didn't make sense to ship the cases and PCBs separately so they're both expected to ship this weekend.

My plan is to get them all out to you on the weekend of the 18th. As mentioned before, the keyboards are being shipped to a different location in a separate state (TX) where I'll be flying to for the weekend to help get them all out.

If you ordered other things with your keyboard, they may be shipped out before and separately (at no extra cost).

We are also contemplating the use of DHL instead of USPS Priority for the international shipments.

I have some nice pictures that I'll upload this weekend for everyone - thanks again for your patience! This will be completed soon and really apologize for the delay. If you're interested in extras, there definitely will be some (but not many). I'll update in this thread when they're expected go live (also will email in the newsletter).

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #136 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 08:23:33 »
Can't wait to get this board, thanks for the update!

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #137 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 11:33:57 »
This'll be my first build and I'm super excited to put the switches I've been sitting on for 2 months to use! TY for all the updates cynviloq you've made it really easy to track progress.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 09:02:01 »
The first 130 cases reached our other location - as mentioned before, I'll be flying down next weekend (11/17) to get the process started and hopefully have a significant number labeled and ready to be dropped off / picked up for the following week. Going to try to beat the post-Thanksgiving shipping influx to minimize loss potential.

Here are some pictures from my friend who did the initial QC check to tide you over - really really appreciate everyone's patience and incredibly sorry about the delay.










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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 09:06:22 »
Niiiiiceeee.....   Thanks, cynviloq for the update!  Looking forward to the project!  :D
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 13:02:38 »
Quick update - the PCBs took a couple extra days and it didn't make sense to ship the cases and PCBs separately so they're both expected to ship this weekend.

My plan is to get them all out to you on the weekend of the 18th. As mentioned before, the keyboards are being shipped to a different location in a separate state (TX) where I'll be flying to for the weekend to help get them all out.

If you ordered other things with your keyboard, they may be shipped out before and separately (at no extra cost).

We are also contemplating the use of DHL instead of USPS Priority for the international shipments.

I have some nice pictures that I'll upload this weekend for everyone - thanks again for your patience! This will be completed soon and really apologize for the delay. If you're interested in extras, there definitely will be some (but not many). I'll update in this thread when they're expected go live (also will email in the newsletter).


Just to verify, there may be extra boards for purchase? If so, can I be added to that wait list?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 13:04:47 »
Yes there will definitely be extras. Best to follow on Instagram or sign up for the newsletter on the website. We will post via those two first when the extras are live (~first week of December)


Just to verify, there may be extra boards for purchase? If so, can I be added to that wait list?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 13:11:23 »
Hey cynviloq, just for curiosity's sake, would anyone in the GB be able to swap to a different color shell or is it all set in stone (or aluminum, in this case)?  Just curious is all!  The reason I ask is I'm considering preparing a themed deck for Laser GMK, and if I can skip a step and go silver instead of gunmetal grey shell it'd help a bit but not entirely necessary. Taking it all down to bare shell works too!
Thanks again for this GB.
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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 15:14:15 »
The first 130 cases reached our other location - as mentioned before, I'll be flying down next weekend (11/17) to get the process started and hopefully have a significant number labeled and ready to be dropped off / picked up for the following week. Going to try to beat the post-Thanksgiving shipping influx to minimize loss potential.

Here are some pictures from my friend who did the initial QC check to tide you over - really really appreciate everyone's patience and incredibly sorry about the delay.


What delay? :3

Do you think it's safe to say that we would start receiving by 11/27 until 12/15?
When do you think the first person can receive theirs?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 09 November 2017, 15:47:22 »
For this build I'm waiting on R8 of the Zealios GB which is supposed to ship in Dec so this lines up pretty nicely. Now I wish Calm Depths would ship before Jan-Feb. :(

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #145 on: Sun, 12 November 2017, 03:14:10 »
For this build I'm waiting on R8 of the Zealios GB which is supposed to ship in Dec so this lines up pretty nicely. Now I wish Calm Depths would ship before Jan-Feb. :(

****, I wish Laser was shipping anytime soon

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #146 on: Tue, 14 November 2017, 12:25:41 »
****, I wish Laser was shipping anytime soon

Something something Assdrop?

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #147 on: Tue, 14 November 2017, 14:57:07 »
Yes there will definitely be extras. Best to follow on Instagram or sign up for the newsletter on the website. We will post via those two first when the extras are live (~first week of December)

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You modified the plate since the original sample photos.  Sneaky!  It looks like it would support the bottom row I was looking for now.  I may have to snag one of those extras...  :cool:

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:30:09 »
Hey cynviloq, just for curiosity's sake, would anyone in the GB be able to swap to a different color shell or is it all set in stone (or aluminum, in this case)?  Just curious is all!  The reason I ask is I'm considering preparing a themed deck for Laser GMK, and if I can skip a step and go silver instead of gunmetal grey shell it'd help a bit but not entirely necessary. Taking it all down to bare shell works too!
Thanks again for this GB.

E-mail me if you'd like to switch with order info and the request and I don't see an issue as long as we have enough extras (we should for silver/grey/black)

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #149 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:31:05 »
The first 130 cases reached our other location - as mentioned before, I'll be flying down next weekend (11/17) to get the process started and hopefully have a significant number labeled and ready to be dropped off / picked up for the following week. Going to try to beat the post-Thanksgiving shipping influx to minimize loss potential.

Here are some pictures from my friend who did the initial QC check to tide you over - really really appreciate everyone's patience and incredibly sorry about the delay.


What delay? :3

Do you think it's safe to say that we would start receiving by 11/27 until 12/15?
When do you think the first person can receive theirs?


I think that is accurate, though given holidays I would add a week to the backend. The best case scenario is to get them all shipped by end of next week.

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Re: [GB] 96KEE - 96-key Alu Kit (production finished, shipping from factory soon)
« Reply #150 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:32:36 »
Yes there will definitely be extras. Best to follow on Instagram or sign up for the newsletter on the website. We will post via those two first when the extras are live (~first week of December)

Subscribed!

You modified the plate since the original sample photos.  Sneaky!  It looks like it would support the bottom row I was looking for now.  I may have to snag one of those extras...  :cool:

Some small changes were made since the original which I've mentioned but apologies if they weren't evident. Any change that was contemplated was only put into the final design if it was an expansion of layouts, etc and not to restrict or remove anything that was possible in the original layout.