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2017/10/23 Update:

Specifications of iGK6X, driver software, and manual of driver software

Hello, after receiving your keyboard, you can go to pc-100.com's download page to download specifications of iGK6X, driver software and manual of driver software. Hope you can have a wonderful experience on your keyboard.

Any question, please PM me, or leave message Here

Thanks all of you.

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2017/10/19 Update:

All shipments were finished yesterday.


You will be informed the tracking number via your Paypal in 2 days, after then you can check it.

Any questions, please PM me, or leave message Here

Thanks all of you.
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2017/10/15 Update:

3 days shipping delay. Very sorry for it.

All group buy orders are customized, and the packing and shipping process are more complicated than expected. Although we are working overtime in this week, and try to ship them out on time, but we are not always luck: Today and tomorrow there are Typhoons and rainstorms here, people and vehicles are required not to go out. So the shipping have to be delayed for about 3 days. Really sorry for it.

But I make sure only need more about 3 days, the shipping will be finished, then I will let you know your express(epacket) tracking number ASAP. Thanks all of you,and say sorry again for the shipping delay.

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2017/10/09 Update:

All goods are ready. From today all the group buy orders are arranged to be packed one after another. And in one week all of them will be shipped out. Then we will tell you express(epacket) tracking number by email. Please wait patiently. Thanks all of you.

Any questions, please PM me, or leave message Here

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2017/09/20 Update:

All invoices had been sent out.


Payment deadline is September 21. After that, unpaid orders will be canceled.

Any questions, please PM me, or leave message Here



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Update news: about invoice, payment deadline, and delivery date

Hello, everyone

The GB is coming to end very soon. We appreciate to all the participants. Thank you very much for all of you.

As this GB is with plenty of purchase optional, so the orders we received are very complex, beyond our expectations. What' more, we find that some orders needed to be confirmed before invoice out, in order to avoid those perhaps mistaken purchase.

So we decided to spend 3 days to sort out orders, confirm some orders by email( for those necessary, we think.), and then send invoice out. Please pay attention to check your email box these 3 days.

So the GB timeline will be changed a little:

September 15 - Group buy closes
September 16-18: sort out orders, confirm orders (for those orders with necessary), and then invoice go out
September 21 - Payment deadline
October 9 - Estimated start of delivery date, and all the orders will be shipped out in one week.

Sorry for the 3 days delay, but we hope to do better for this GB.

Any question, please PM me, or leave message
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Thanks again for all of you!


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Hello everyone,
The group buy begins, for the below 4 kinds of 60% keyboard:
iGK61: 61-key poker layout, hot swappable MX-based switches
iGK61p: 61-key poker layout, hot swappable optical mechanical switches
iGK62: 62-key with dedicated arrow keys, hot swappable optical mechanical switches
iGK64: 64-key with dedicated arrow keys, hot swappable MX-based mechanical switches
Assemblied finished products, DIY custom kits, PCB, case.., parts & accessories can be chosen.

Timeline for this group buy:
September 5 - Group buy opens
September 15 - Group buy closes and invoice go out
September 18 - Payment deadline
October 6 - Estimated start of delivery date, and all the orders will be shipped out in one week.

Note: in this group buy
1. if your mixed buy ≥10pcs ,distributor's discount can be send to you.
 Assembled finished keyboard, custom kit or PCB (whether iGK61, iGK61p, iGK62, or iGK64) ,these kinds of items can be calculated.
After you submit the order in the order form, you can send email to us for applying for distributors qualification, and we will give corresponding distributors discount for your order.
2 Buy a single product with a quantity of more than 50, you can send email to us for applying for a senior distributor qualification, and we can give a special price for your order.
3 For a single product with a quantity of more than 100, we can custom it for you. Such as customize ISO layout, 68-key layout, metal case... are all accepted.

IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91060.50

GB Here

Products & prices details:
1. iGK61
Features:
61-key poker layout
hot swappable MX-based switches
Full RGB backlit
5 layers (including 4 fully programmable layers - 3 on-board programmable layers and 1 online programmable layer ) mechanical keyboard
With visual smart driver software
USB type-C connector
With 8M Onboard Flash memory
Prices:
US$43.5 - assemblied finished product: prebuilt-in Gateron switches+ ABS case+ doubleshot ABS backlit keycaps+USB cable
US$37 - cusom Kit 1: iGK61 PCB + ABS plastic case + plate (including stabilizer) + USB cable
US$83 - custom Kit3-a: iGK61 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (silver-gray)+ USB cable
US$87 - custom Kit3-b: iGK61 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (red,or blue,or purple,or green can be chosen)+ USB cable
US$27.5 - PCB ( It has been soldered all electronic components, including all RGB LED, user needn’t any soldering.
More group buy choices for iGK61 custom kits, cases...parts & accessories

2.iGK61p

Features:
61-key poker layout
hot swappable optical switches
Full RGB backlit
Waterproof & dustproof PCB board
5 layers (including 4 fully programmable layers - 3 on-board programmable layers and 1 online programmable layer ) mechanical keyboard
With visual smart driver software
USB type-C connector
With 8M onboard Flash memory

Optical switches introduction
Prices:

US$37.5 - assemblied finished product: prebuilt-in Gateron optical switches+ ABS case+ doubleshot ABS backlit keycaps + USB cable
US$32 - custom Kit 1: iGK61p PCB + ABS plastic case + plate (including stabilizer) + USB cable
US$79 - custom Kit3-a: iGK61p PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (silver-gray)+ USB cable
US$83 - custom Kit3-b: iGK61p PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (red, or blue, or purple, or green)+ USB cable
US$24.5 - PCB ( It has been soldered all electronic components, including all RGB LED, user needn’t any soldering.
More group buy choices for iGK61p custom kits, cases...parts & accessories


3.iGK62

Features:
62-key compact design with dedicated arrow keys
hot swappable optical switches
Full RGB backlit
Waterproof & dustproof PCB board
5 layers (including 4 fully programmable layers - 3 onboard programmable layers and 1 online programmable layer ) mechanical keyboard
With visual smart driver software
USB type-C connector
With 8M Onboard Flash memory
Optical switches introduction
Prices:
US$42.5 - prebuilt-in Gateron optical switches+ ABS case+ Laser-etched photic ABS keycaps + USB cable
US$35 - custom Kit 1: iGK62 PCB + ABS plastic case + plate (including stabilizer) + USB cable
US$82 - custom kit3-a: iGK62 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (silver-gray)+ USB cable
US$86 - custom Kit3-b: iGK62 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (red, or blue, or  purple, or green)+ USB cable
US$26.5 - PCB (It has been soldered all electronic components, Including all RGB LED, user needn’t any soldering.)
More group buy choices for iGK62 custom kits, cases...parts & accessories



4.iGK64

Features:
64-key compact design with dedicated arrow keys
hot swappable MX-based switches
Full RGB backlit
5 layers (including 4 fully programmable layers - 3 onboard programmable layers and 1 online programmable layer ) mechanical keyboard
With visual smart driver software
USB type-C connector
With 8M Onboard Flash memory
Prices:
US$135 - Assemblied Set 1: prebuilt-in Cherry MX blue switches + PBT dye-subbed keycaps +CNC anodized aluminum alloy case ( silver-gray) +USB cable
US$125 - Assemblied Set 2: Gateron switches +PBT dye-subbed keycaps +CNC anodized aluminum alloy case ( silver-gray) +USB cable
US$53 - Assemblied Set 3: Gateron switches+Laser-etched photic ABS keycaps +Black ABS case +USB cable
US$45.5 - custom Kit 1: iGK64 PCB + ABS plastic case + plate (including stabilizer) + USB cable
US$96 - custom Kit3-a: iGK64 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (silver-gray)+ USB cable
US$100 - custom Kit3-b: iGK64 PCB + CNC anodized aluminum alloy case (red, or blue, or purple, or green can be chosen)+ USB cable
US$33.5 - PCB  (It has been soldered all electronic components, including all RGB LED, user needn’t any soldering.
More group buy choices for iGK64 custom kits, cases...parts & accessories

Note:
1.No MOQ requirement for the Group Buy
2.Payment: by Paypal
3. Freight costs: the below prices for references, see more freight costs details in the GB order form
US$12 - Economy Express ( like epacket) for Plastic case assembled finished product
US$19.5 - super express (like DHL) for Plastic case assembled finished product
US$18 - Economy Express ( like epacket) for metal case assembled finished product
US$23 - super express (like DHL) for metal assembled finished product

« Last Edit: Mon, 23 October 2017, 02:28:54 by ingeniousmonkey »

Offline ingeniousmonkey

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Update promotion news:

Each purchase of an optical keyboard, can get 10pcs Gateron silver optical switches free, for having a rapid switch experience freely.

Gateron silver optical switch is a rapid switch, especially suitable for e-sport gaming
Output resolution: 1.0±0.1mm
Operating force:  45±15gf
« Last Edit: Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:21:51 by ingeniousmonkey »

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So we can't just buy one keyboard?

Is this for distributors only??

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So we can't just buy one keyboard?

Is this for distributors only??

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Of course, buy one keyboard is welcome.
I just want to say if someone buy 10pcs, can get a distributor's discount.
Sorry,  make you misunderstand.

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Hi, to who asked questions in my IC thread
 My IC thread  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91060.0 is locked, this means interest check has been ended. Sorry for I can't reply anything in IC thread. So please come here group buy thread for discussions.Thanks.
« Last Edit: Thu, 07 September 2017, 19:47:21 by ingeniousmonkey »

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I'll ask here since the IC was locked:

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For iGK61, iGK61p and iGK62, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is printed white.
For iGK64, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is anodized silver.
 

Not sure what plastic it is on the 61 version? but it is possible to have an alu option since it is a standard ansi and any 60% alu will work

The 61 and 61p has the holes to support standard 60% cases standoffs, like the GH60 or XD60?  Am i right? (seems like yes from the pics but would like a confirmation)   
« Last Edit: Fri, 08 September 2017, 04:27:15 by KaosJ »

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Im interested in the optical IGK61p, could you tell us which orientation the switches are facing? Is the switch logo upside down or level? I'm asking this because I usually use cherry profile keycaps.

Also, since it's optical and 1000hz, the latency should be pretty low right?

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I'll ask here since the IC was locked:

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For iGK61, iGK61p and iGK62, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is printed white.
For iGK64, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is anodized silver.
 

Not sure what plastic it is on the 61 version? but it is possible to have an alu option since it is a standard ansi and any 60% alu will work

The 61 and 61p has the holes to support standard 60% cases standoffs, like the GH60 or XD60?  Am i right? (seems like yes from the pics but would like a confirmation)

The plate for 61 and 62  are all steel ( Not plastic) with  sprayed white paint. It looks quite good.

Our PCB is with USB type C connector, but on the marketing nearly all the 60% PCB is not with type C connector, so maybe our PCB can't fit the standard 60% case perfectly.

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Im interested in the optical IGK61p, could you tell us which orientation the switches are facing? Is the switch logo upside down or level? I'm asking this because I usually use cherry profile keycaps.

Also, since it's optical and 1000hz, the latency should be pretty low right?
Im interested in the optical IGK61p, could you tell us which orientation the switches are facing? Is the switch logo upside down or level? I'm asking this because I usually use cherry profile keycaps.
--------------Switch logo is down. Cherry profile keycaps can be used.
Also, since it's optical and 1000hz, the latency should be pretty low right?
---------- Yes.

Some information about optical switches to you for reference:
Gateron silver optical switch is a rapid switch for e-sport gaming
Output resolution: 1.0±0.1mm
Operating force:  45±15gf

Cherry's silver switch
Output resolution: 1.2±0.2mm

Others Gateron optical switches:
Black optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  60±15gf

Brown optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  55±15gf

Red optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  45±15gf

Blue optical switche
Output resolution: 2.3±0.6mm
Operating force:  55±15gf

iGK61p PCB photo to you for reference:


Online KaosJ

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I'll ask here since the IC was locked:

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For iGK61, iGK61p and iGK62, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is printed white.
For iGK64, whether you choose plastic or metal case, the positioning plate is anodized silver.
 

Not sure what plastic it is on the 61 version? but it is possible to have an alu option since it is a standard ansi and any 60% alu will work

The 61 and 61p has the holes to support standard 60% cases standoffs, like the GH60 or XD60?  Am i right? (seems like yes from the pics but would like a confirmation)

The plate for 61 and 62  are all steel ( Not plastic) with  sprayed white paint. It looks quite good.

Our PCB is with USB type C connector, but on the marketing nearly all the 60% PCB is not with type C connector, so maybe our PCB can't fit the standard 60% case perfectly.
 

Oh nice is steel, i will definitely enter! 

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Ok awesome. One more question are these optical switches compatible with zealencios? (that is the silencing clips you put over the switch to dampen sound)

And could you do the trampoline mod to dampen the bottom out or is it different inside since it's optical?

More

« Last Edit: Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:45:26 by Ragequit »

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Ok awesome. One more question are these optical switches compatible with zealencios? (that is the silencing clips you put over the switch to dampen sound)

And could you do the trampoline mod to dampen the bottom out or is it different inside since it's optical?

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For the trampoline mode i'm pretty sure you can't, mainly because there should be 2 holes where you put the silicone part. 

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Ok awesome. One more question are these optical switches compatible with zealencios? (that is the silencing clips you put over the switch to dampen sound)

And could you do the trampoline mod to dampen the bottom out or is it different inside since it's optical?

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Sorry, I can't answer your this question now. Because I am not know it. I will consult related personnel. Sorry for it.

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Ok awesome. One more question are these optical switches compatible with zealencios? (that is the silencing clips you put over the switch to dampen sound)

And could you do the trampoline mod to dampen the bottom out or is it different inside since it's optical?

More
Show Image
Show Image

 

For the trampoline mode i'm pretty sure you can't, mainly because there should be 2 holes where you put the silicone part.

Thank you, KaosJ

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No problemo, just is it this kind? http://www.gateron.com/supply/21.html
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:36:47 by Ragequit »

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Update promotion news:

Each purchase of an optical keyboard, can get 10pcs Gateron silver optical switches free, for having a rapid switch experience freely.

Gateron silver optical switch is a rapid switch, especially suitable for e-sport gaming
Output resolution: 1.0±0.1mm
Operating force:  45±15gf
« Last Edit: Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:59:28 by ingeniousmonkey »

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DIY users can check iGK6X plate mounting dimensions & size , and to see if our pcb can fit for the standard 60 case on the market.

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Wow. 60%, pcb-mount, full RGB, hot-swappable and programmable. Pretty sweet deal.


What program do we use for programming our own layout though?
Filco MJ2 Black - MX Red | VA88M - MX Brown | Cherry G80-3000 -
  MX Blue | Cherry G80-3000 - MX Black | XD75re - MX Silent Red

[image]http://i.imgur.com/our8YUc.png[/image]

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Wow. 60%, pcb-mount, full RGB, hot-swappable and programmable. Pretty sweet deal.


What program do we use for programming our own layout though?

iGK6x series keyboards are with our distinctive visual smart driver software.

Before running the driver software, you must connect your iGK6X keyboard with your PC. iGK6X software will detect keyboard device automatically. If no keyboard, you will see nothing about the driver software.
We are improving the software ( both in English translation and friendly UI). If you buy one keyboard in this GB, when you receive it, you can come to our website pc-100.com to download the the latest driver software.

Now on our website there is  driver software manual,  you can download it for some reference.

When you need to build new configurations ( such as remap keys, programming your own layout, build macro, customize hotkeys...custom every key's individual color, DIY lighting effects...), you can run the software. And after that , you needn't run the software any more, all the new configurations can be stored in the keyboard, you can use these new configurations at any PC, any where.


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Update with invoice and payment deadline.

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updates on shipping?

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updates on shipping?


 Sorry, a little delay. Details please see the top update news.

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ok np  ;D

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updates on shipping?


 Sorry, a little delay. Details please see the top update news.

Thanks for the update!  Pretty sure typhoons are a good reason to stay at home.  Hope everyone is safe and no one had significant property damage.  Wishing you all the best.

I'm looking forward to getting this board to check out the quality.  I hope to make this my test board for all new MX switches that come out.  I've got 5 bags of switches to try out already :)
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updates on shipping?


 Sorry, a little delay. Details please see the top update news.

Thanks for the update!  Pretty sure typhoons are a good reason to stay at home.  Hope everyone is safe and no one had significant property damage.  Wishing you all the best.

I'm looking forward to getting this board to check out the quality.  I hope to make this my test board for all new MX switches that come out.  I've got 5 bags of switches to try out already :)

Thank you very much! we are all OK.

All shipment are finished. Please see the update news at the top of this thread.

Hope you can have wonderful experience on this board. :)

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Awesome, thanks  :thumb:

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I got my shipping info  :thumb:
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Out for delivery!

I was planning my soldering space for building this today... but then I realized... I don't have to solder anything!  This will be a rare treat for sure.  I'll hopefully post some photos in a few days.
:)

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Got mine today too! First impression that seems like a nice board especially at that price! I got mine preassembled with the plastic case surprisingly no flex at all and it has some cool angles and a subtle mix of glossy parts just enough to make it lok interesting (goes perfect with my G Pro mouse too). The RGB glows nicely with the white plate. I'm not disapointed, many thanks, appreciated the professionalism.  ;)   

Posted some images: https://imgur.com/a/MAbPA

Quick question, is it programmable or not? If so where are the instructions or software?
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Got mine today too! First impression that seems like a nice board especially at that price! I got mine preassembled with the plastic case surprisingly no flex at all and it has some cool angles and a subtle mix of glossy parts just enough to make it lok interesting (goes perfect with my G Pro mouse too). The RGB glows nicely with the white plate. I'm not disapointed, many thanks, appreciated the professionalism.  ;)   

Posted some images: https://imgur.com/a/MAbPA

Quick question, is it programmable or not? If so where are the instructions or software?


Dude, this thing is amazing for the price.  Amazing. 

http://www.pc-100.com/downloads-mechanical-keyboard/   there is the software and instructions.
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So here is my experience with a full 2 hrs in hand.  So... simply first impressions.  I bought the DIY kit with all of the offered parts except switches/caps.

I have built 9 custom keyboards in the past, and have modified 6 or 7 others.  This will be the first time I have tried hotswap sockets.

Case:
The case is the same form as the plastic ones you can order for cheap from ebay and aliexpress.  You can read up on reviews of those if you have more question.  Nice, cheap case.  Me likey.

It has an interesting mounting system, and I assume it is because of the hotswap sockets.  The PCB actually screws to the plate (on the back of the PCB) and then you screw through the plate into the case.  The case has 7 or so tall plastic bits that protrude up through the PCB and meet the plate.  Intersting that they did it this way but still left all 6 standard mounting holes for 60% baords.

One negative about this case is the screws.  As is often the case when screwing into plastic, the holes are very tight and take a lot of careful turning to fully tighten (so as not to strip the screws).  My hand still hurts b/c my precision screwdrivers don't have nice cushy handles :(

Included Cable
My first time to use USB-C on a board.  Nice to not have to look which way to plug it in.  I got what looks to be a 5ft USB-C cable that is black with braided fabric covering it for something like $1.  Can't beat that.

PCB compatibility
The PCB is actually compatible with other 60% cases.  Now... not ALL of them because it is just a little to large on edges to fit in a pok3r case.  However, it fit in my wooden case that I bought from Aliexpress.  The only clearance issue with mounts is that the hotswap sockets could interfere slightly with the center screwdown.  I was lucky to have it fit down exactly in the wooden case, but YMMV.

Stabilizers
The plate mounted stabilizers are very good.  They sound much better than the ones in my pok3er boards.  (Those are my only reference for plate mount).  I'm pretty picky about my stabilizers, and these are good.  I notice a very slight rattle on the enter key but I haven't lubed them yet.

For some strange reason, they have cutouts on the board for PCB stabilizers everywhere EXCEPT the left shift.  I would recommend they fix that in the next version for people who wish to buy this as a DIY part.

The hotswap sockets
These are awesome.  They are using the new Kailh sockets, and they are ingenious.  Mine had a few that were only soldered on one side.  These are surface mount pieices, so they just have a slight bit of solder below the hotswap arms.  Looks like they didn't get a few of them secured.

When you push the switches through the board, the hotswap plugs will push out if not properly soldered in.  In my case, after loading up the board with switches, I had 3 not working.  I was able to fix the issue by taking the board out of the case and pressing them back against the solder points. I checked and noticed that one arm of the socket was not soldered on those three switches.

None of this is an issue for me because I have a soldering iron and the knowledge/experience to fix it.  I just resoldered the affected arms and all is well now.  However, this could be a big deal for someone without equipment or knowledge of how to fix it.  I might suggest more QC checks on those solder points. Maybe I got random bad luck.  Still, no biggie for people who know how to use a soldering iron.

RGB backlighting
The lighting is vivid.  I haven't gotten into the software to mess around with colors yet. I couldn't get the software to see the keyboard hooked up through a usb hub, but once I got it directly connected to my computer all was good.  The software is a ton of fun.  The lighting is going to keep me busy for a long time.  Cool stuff indeed.

Programming
I'm not so sure programmable keys.  It seems that you can only change a key, not actually add a function layer. So for this reason, I will say the programmability of this keyboard is completely useless.  Yes, it supports media functions and arrow keys and such, but you can only assign them to a key, remapping the key.  Who would ever do or need such a thing?  I was hoping to find a way to set a function key but I'm just not seeing it.  You will have to use autohotkey to actually program arrow keys and such on this keyboard if you don't like the default function layer

I had one led not working when I first plugged it in.  Touch a soldering iron to all 4 legs on it to reheat the solder and now it works.  Again, no big deal to someone with equipment, but not great QC.  All you had to do was plug in the cable to see it wasn't working.

My overall impression is that this is respectable.  It's not perfect, but it's nice, especially if you don't need custom function layers. For the price I paid... it's a good deal.  Happy with my purchase.  I plan to use this board to try all of the switches I have sitting around.  I have 67g zealios in it at the moment. Very nice, but I'm about to swap it out with 62g and see which I like better.

If this was my only board, I would very much be missing the ability to control media and volume with a Fn+key command.  Again, as far as I can tell, this board only allows you to remap keys, not program function layers.

I have 5 or 6 switch tester plates around, but I can't ever get the full effect until they are on a real working board.  This is perfect for that job!


« Last Edit: Tue, 24 October 2017, 17:48:22 by reececonrad »
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Okay, first of all, I can't seem to get the software to see my keyboard.  Surely there is a fix for this. 

EDIT-- figured out I had to plug directly into the PC.  I was using a USB hub and it didn't see the keyboard through it. Now to find a longer USB-C cable  :(

Also, a little random, but there is a microphone on the PCB.  I couldn't figure out what it was when I first looked at it, but then I tried the "music" mode and realized it was actually listening to the sounds in the room, not what was coming from the computer.  Weird.  I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theory kinda guy, but having a microphone installed on my keyboard makes me a big uncomfortable.
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:34:20 by reececonrad »
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Offline raxander

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Got mine yesterday.  I got the iGK61 with metal case, and so far I'm impressed.  I'm running linux, though, and can't get the driver software to run under wine.  Does the driver software need to be running all the time, or just when you want to change something?  And does anybody know if there are key combinations that let you change the behavior of the board without the driver software running?  I stumbled on some: like Fn+w seems to put you into a different layer where the arrow keys are on.

Switches pop in easily, and the PCB accepts PCB-mount or plate-mount switches.  LEDs are indeed vivid as the previous poster said.  I have zealios on, though, which have a clear housing.  You probably would not get as much light through with an opaque housing.  I probably will turn them off though as I'm not partial to LEDs - mostly bought this sucker for the hot-swap capability.

EDIT:  Duh, the key combinations are in the technical specifications document linked in the first post above.  You can't change the mapping without the software, but it looks from the docs like you only have to change it once and then don't need the driver software to be running after that for your custom layout to be active.

EDIT 2:  Okay I played around with the driver software on a windows machine.  There doesn't seem to be a way to change the "Fn" key to be a different one, it wants to stay the bottom right key.  Also don't see a way to make Fn+WASD keys the arrows instead of the default.  Also, when I switch the keyboard to a different computer, the changes I made are not saved - it seems you do have to have the driver software running for the changes to persist.  Sadly this all means I won't get much use out of this board except possibly as a switch tester.
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 October 2017, 20:20:09 by raxander »

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Got mine yesterday.  I got the iGK61 with metal case, and so far I'm impressed.  I'm running linux, though, and can't get the driver software to run under wine.  Does the driver software need to be running all the time, or just when you want to change something?  And does anybody know if there are key combinations that let you change the behavior of the board without the driver software running?  I stumbled on some: like Fn+w seems to put you into a different layer where the arrow keys are on.

Switches pop in easily, and the PCB accepts PCB-mount or plate-mount switches.  LEDs are indeed vivid as the previous poster said.  I have zealios on, though, which have a clear housing.  You probably would not get as much light through with an opaque housing.  I probably will turn them off though as I'm not partial to LEDs - mostly bought this sucker for the hot-swap capability.

EDIT:  Duh, the key combinations are in the technical specifications document linked in the first post above.  You can't change the mapping without the software, but it looks from the docs like you only have to change it once and then don't need the driver software to be running after that for your custom layout to be active.

Yes, you can edit the "offline" modes in the software and they will still work without the app running in the background.  However, you can't really program anything as far as I can tell.  The product said fully programmable, but I think the proper terminology would have been fully re-mappable.  You cannot change those built in function mappings, and you cannot add more.  You can make it so that pressing a key sends a different keystroke or macro, but I honestly fail to see the usefulness of such functionality.

I think most people use custom function layers and not custom layers.  You can program a layer to do what you want like page up, page down, arrow cluster, media controls... but you have to actually be ON that layer to use it.  This requires hitting the Fn key and the layer (q=1, w=2, e=3, r=4).  Once on that layer you can then use the newly programmed key.

So, if i wanted to use media keys on (W,A,S,D) and still be able to type, I would hop over to layer 2 and remap those keys to play/pause, vol+, vol-, etc...

If I wanted to turn the volume down, I would have to press Function+w and then press my keybind for vol- and then press Function+q to return to the main layer.  No one would ever do this.  It's silly.  You would expect that you could program it so that pressing Fn + S could turn the volume down.  Or that Function + H could be home.  No such luck.

There are a few options like this in their default Function layers that aren't too bad, but no media keys.

I just programmed everything with autohotkey so that it worked like all of my other boards.  I'm a happy camper and the zealios feel great.
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 October 2017, 20:03:10 by reececonrad »
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Hi OP, will there be another gb for this? I regret not joining the gb :(


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Got mine yesterday.  I got the iGK61 with metal case, and so far I'm impressed.  I'm running linux, though, and can't get the driver software to run under wine.  Does the driver software need to be running all the time, or just when you want to change something?  And does anybody know if there are key combinations that let you change the behavior of the board without the driver software running?  I stumbled on some: like Fn+w seems to put you into a different layer where the arrow keys are on.

Switches pop in easily, and the PCB accepts PCB-mount or plate-mount switches.  LEDs are indeed vivid as the previous poster said.  I have zealios on, though, which have a clear housing.  You probably would not get as much light through with an opaque housing.  I probably will turn them off though as I'm not partial to LEDs - mostly bought this sucker for the hot-swap capability.

EDIT:  Duh, the key combinations are in the technical specifications document linked in the first post above.  You can't change the mapping without the software, but it looks from the docs like you only have to change it once and then don't need the driver software to be running after that for your custom layout to be active.

Yes, you can edit the "offline" modes in the software and they will still work without the app running in the background.  However, you can't really program anything as far as I can tell.  The product said fully programmable, but I think the proper terminology would have been fully re-mappable.  You cannot change those built in function mappings, and you cannot add more.  You can make it so that pressing a key sends a different keystroke or macro, but I honestly fail to see the usefulness of such functionality.

I think most people use custom function layers and not custom layers.  You can program a layer to do what you want like page up, page down, arrow cluster, media controls... but you have to actually be ON that layer to use it.  This requires hitting the Fn key and the layer (q=1, w=2, e=3, r=4).  Once on that layer you can then use the newly programmed key.

So, if i wanted to use media keys on (W,A,S,D) and still be able to type, I would hop over to layer 2 and remap those keys to play/pause, vol+, vol-, etc...

If I wanted to turn the volume down, I would have to press Function+w and then press my keybind for vol- and then press Function+q to return to the main layer.  No one would ever do this.  It's silly.  You would expect that you could program it so that pressing Fn + S could turn the volume down.  Or that Function + H could be home.  No such luck.

There are a few options like this in their default Function layers that aren't too bad, but no media keys.

I just programmed everything with autohotkey so that it worked like all of my other boards.  I'm a happy camper and the zealios feel great.

Okay I get how it works now.  Yeah I guess I would have to remap everything in my OS to make it usable, cannibalizing the Menu key for the equivalent of "Fn".  Not ideal, and of course not readily portable to other computers.  Too bad, the board has some really excellent features but lacks a basic necessity that pretty much every 60% user wants.  Hopefully they (or someone) will release a new version of the software that gives more flexibility.  Until then it's a switch tester for me.

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http://www.pc-100.com/downloads-mechanical-keyboard/   there is the software and instructions.

thx! Unfortunately it does not seem possible to rebind FN.
It bother me a little bit not having this option since I usually prefer having FN in place of cap lock and the arrows on wasd, stuff like that for one-handed ease of use.
I hope eventually the software will allow for that in the future.

Or did I just not see how to do it?  :)

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http://www.pc-100.com/downloads-mechanical-keyboard/   there is the software and instructions.

thx! Unfortunately it does not seem possible to rebind FN.
It bother me a little bit not having this option since I usually prefer having FN in place of cap lock and the arrows on wasd, stuff like that for one-handed ease of use.
I hope eventually the software will allow for that in the future.

Or did I just not see how to do it?  :)

No, I don’t think it’s possible.  I’m using autohotkey to map caplocks to my function key but I am also enjoying their default functions as well. 
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Having the ability to write it directly on the board itself would be nice to have

Edit: I got both browns and silvers to test and damn the optical linears are the smoothest feeling Ive ever seen, so nice! (even better when lubed)
This is probably because of the fact that they don't have the metal contact leaf, so there is only the spring no metal leaf friction.
Funnily enough the stems still have the pegs to slide on the metal leaf, I could clip them off with no effect.
The browns of course still need to have the metal leaf in order to have the tactile bump though.
« Last Edit: Sat, 28 October 2017, 06:26:05 by Ragequit »

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Hello,

Thank you very much for all of you feedback.

Regarding "Fn key":

"Fn" combined keys are not programmable on our keyboard now. We will study and assess it. It needs to change the firmware of the keyboard. If we realized this function, our users may update their keyboards' firmware. We will try to realize this function, but we can't declare a schedule timeline for it yet. 

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Hello,

Thank you very much for all of you feedback.

Regarding "Fn key":

"Fn" combined keys are not programmable on our keyboard now. We will study and assess it. It needs to change the firmware of the keyboard. If we realized this function, our users may update their keyboards' firmware. We will try to realize this function, but we can't declare a schedule timeline for it yet.


Thanks!  Yes a firmware update to allow Fn + key programming would be an immense improvement. Really like my board.  It is very nice to have the hot swap and I enjoy the rgb leds. 
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Hello,

Thank you very much for all of you feedback.

Regarding "Fn key":

"Fn" combined keys are not programmable on our keyboard now. We will study and assess it. It needs to change the firmware of the keyboard. If we realized this function, our users may update their keyboards' firmware. We will try to realize this function, but we can't declare a schedule timeline for it yet.


Thanks!  Yes a firmware update to allow Fn + key programming would be an immense improvement. Really like my board.  It is very nice to have the hot swap and I enjoy the rgb leds.

Thanks, glad to hear you like the hot swap and enjoy the RGB leds. And also thank you very much for your reviewing about the keyboard kit.

During the usage, if there are any advice or suggestion, please contact us freely. We'd like to receive the feedback from community, and improve our product more and more.Thank you.

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Glad this project went off smoothly and they all seem like good keyboards. If they can manage to make them truly programmable, it would be fantastic. Hopefully ingeniousmonkey has some cunning codemonkeys working on this.

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I believe this is the Chinese site for these boards.  If anyone can translate well, there seems to be a community forum.  Probably a good place to ask around. 

http://www.jikedingzhi.com/
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I believe this is the Chinese site for these boards.  If anyone can translate well, there seems to be a community forum.  Probably a good place to ask around. 

http://www.jikedingzhi.com/

Jikedingzhi is our Chinese website. It is just for Chinese, it doesn't supply services to the guests outside China and retail buyer. So sorry, perhaps you can't receive reply from this website.
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 November 2017, 02:57:43 by ingeniousmonkey »

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Glad this project went off smoothly and they all seem like good keyboards. If they can manage to make them truly programmable, it would be fantastic. Hopefully ingeniousmonkey has some cunning codemonkeys working on this.

Hello, according to the feedback from the community, we are doing this working - program function layers: at the "W"  "E"  "R" 3 programmable layers,  "Fn" combined keys can be programmable.  After finished this working, we will release update firmware and software.

Excuse me, "some cunning codemonkeys working on this"?  I am not very clearly about what you mean. Would you please explain it more details? If possible, we'd like to realize some special functions to fit some special person's or some special job's needs. Thank you.
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 November 2017, 03:45:55 by ingeniousmonkey »

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Glad this project went off smoothly and they all seem like good keyboards. If they can manage to make them truly programmable, it would be fantastic. Hopefully ingeniousmonkey has some cunning codemonkeys working on this.

Hello, according to the feedback from the community, we are doing this working: at the "W"  "E"  "R" 3 programmable layers,  "Fn" combined keys can be programmable.  After finished this working, we will release update firmware and software.

Excuse me, "some cunning codemonkeys working on this"?  I am not very clearly about what you mean. Would you please explain it more details? If possible, we'd like to realize some special functions to fit some special person's or some special job's needs. Thank you.

Sorry, just my attempt at humour. Someone who writes code (programmers) are sometimes referred to as a 'code monkey'.

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Glad this project went off smoothly and they all seem like good keyboards. If they can manage to make them truly programmable, it would be fantastic. Hopefully ingeniousmonkey has some cunning codemonkeys working on this.

Hello, according to the feedback from the community, we are doing this working: at the "W"  "E"  "R" 3 programmable layers,  "Fn" combined keys can be programmable.  After finished this working, we will release update firmware and software.

Excuse me, "some cunning codemonkeys working on this"?  I am not very clearly about what you mean. Would you please explain it more details? If possible, we'd like to realize some special functions to fit some special person's or some special job's needs. Thank you.

Sorry, just my attempt at humour. Someone who writes code (programmers) are sometimes referred to as a 'code monkey'.

:D
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 November 2017, 04:04:22 by ingeniousmonkey »

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Glad this project went off smoothly and they all seem like good keyboards. If they can manage to make them truly programmable, it would be fantastic. Hopefully ingeniousmonkey has some cunning codemonkeys working on this.

Hello, according to the feedback from the community, we are doing this working: at the "W"  "E"  "R" 3 programmable layers,  "Fn" combined keys can be programmable.  After finished this working, we will release update firmware and software.

Excuse me, "some cunning codemonkeys working on this"?  I am not very clearly about what you mean. Would you please explain it more details? If possible, we'd like to realize some special functions to fit some special person's or some special job's needs. Thank you.

Sorry, just my attempt at humour. Someone who writes code (programmers) are sometimes referred to as a 'code monkey'.

 In China, programmers are called code peasants.   :D
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 November 2017, 04:06:40 by ingeniousmonkey »

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Thank you for considering updates to the firmware. 
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Received my iGK64, and like the rest of you was disappointed to see that the iGK does not support remapping of the Fn key, and also does not support any kind of function layer - only remapping and macro programming.

I'm on Windows so I'll be trying TouchCursor to achieve what I want, but i really wanted this to work at the keyboard level.

ingeniousmonkey, I look forward to firmware and driver updates

Offline ingeniousmonkey

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Received my iGK64, and like the rest of you was disappointed to see that the iGK does not support remapping of the Fn key, and also does not support any kind of function layer - only remapping and macro programming.

I'm on Windows so I'll be trying TouchCursor to achieve what I want, but i really wanted this to work at the keyboard level.

ingeniousmonkey, I look forward to firmware and driver updates

Sorry for bringing you inconvenience. Yes, we have been trying this "Fn function".... I believe very soon, we will have a update firmware and driver to resolve it.