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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 17:43:54 »
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Will the R9 stabilizers be shipped prior to the R10 stabilizers or will they be shipped at the same time?

R9 stabilizer extra shipment will be coming in first, well before R10 GB happens.
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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:47:14 »
Wow, built my Exent with 67g Zilents. I have to say this is my new jam.
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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 14:15:07 »
Wow, built my Exent with 67g Zilents. I have to say this is my new jam.

Did you lube the switches? If so, what did you use?

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 07:03:18 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:32:32 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:56:00 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 12:22:34 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 15:34:01 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

https://www.amazon.com/M3x8x0-5mm-Steel-Insulation-Washer-Gasket/dp/B077PHJDXF/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521651274&sr=8-2&keywords=paper+insulation+washer

these also work well, not sure which size tho
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ARADX88/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Buy this pack and you'll be set for a while. I've been using them on all screw in stabs.

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:30:13 »
I wonder if they make clear-ish nylon washers that are thin enough to work.

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:17:25 »
Awesome suggestions.  Thanks dudes.   :thumb:

McMaster has these nylon washers at only 0.5mm thickness that I think would work.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#90940a411/  Edit: Polycarb, not nylon.

But I may not need them.  Spamray is sending me a few nylon screws to use with my stabs.  :D
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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:50:23 »
Awesome suggestions.  Thanks dudes.   :thumb:

McMaster has these nylon washers at only 0.5mm thickness that I think would work.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#90940a411/  Edit: Polycarb, not nylon.

But I may not need them.  Spamray is sending me a few nylon screws to use with my stabs.  :D

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 22 March 2018, 14:11:37 »
I dont know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows. ;)


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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 02:11:49 »
Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 03:11:46 »
Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.
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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 21:34:03 »
I dont know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows. ;)

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There are limited layouts with what you can do with RGB LED PCBs. 2pin single colour LEDs are much more flexible with multiple layouts as the footprint is a lot smaller, and the LEDs can share a pad. RGB LEDs on the other hand are wider and if we tried to support 1u arrows on bottom, the light would be off center. That's why we have the Zephyr 65% for arrow key users. ;)

Do zilents silence both the upstroke and downstroke even when the switches are mounted north-facing (upside down)? I know with the silencing clips you lose the downstroke silencing (or maybe upstroke - been a while since I tested) if the switches are flipped. I can't actually figure out how the zilents work so it's hard to guess.

Zilents silence both upstroke and downstroke regardless of orientation or keycaps used.
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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 21:39:51 »
Im still waiting on Zeal to release a 75% or 80% kit.

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 24 March 2018, 08:30:35 »
Zeal - I may need to buffer my screw-in stabilizers with an insulating washer on a particular board due to poor PCB design.  Are there any you recommend?  What size should I be looking for?

Loving the Zilents by the way.  They're even better than I expected.  Definitely my new favorite switch.  Well done!

Howdy- I use these fiber washers and they work quite well. They are $.50 at Home Depot (if you're in the US) so I usually grab a pack or three when I'm in getting something there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-2-x-0-032-in-Black-Fiber-Washer-4-Piece-807858/204276413

Would using these fiber washers have the same effect as the band-aid mod ?

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 24 March 2018, 11:21:54 »
I dont know if this is appropriate to put this suggestion here, Zeal, but I love the Zeal60 with its in switch rgb. What I think would be cool in future versions would be if there was an option for an arrow cluster on the bottom right similar to this pic of my BananaSplit. Not sure how feasible it would be to rework the pcb, but some of us gotta have our arrows. ;)

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There are limited layouts with what you can do with RGB LED PCBs. 2pin single colour LEDs are much more flexible with multiple layouts as the footprint is a lot smaller, and the LEDs can share a pad. RGB LEDs on the other hand are wider and if we tried to support 1u arrows on bottom, the light would be off center. That's why we have the Zephyr 65% for arrow key users. ;)

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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 25 March 2018, 10:39:46 »
are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?
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Re: [GB] R9 Zilents/Tealios/Zealios/Zeal Stabilizers/Zealencios
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:32:55 »
are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.
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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 25 March 2018, 16:14:17 »
are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.

oh i see... i was watching the review of top clack on the zilents and the colors of 67g and 78g are a bit different. more pale than what is posted here.

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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 26 March 2018, 11:58:18 »
are the switches shown on the zilents picture link the 78g? or is it the 67g key switches?

Zilents on the watch are 67g. For the ring it's 62/67g.

oh i see... i was watching the review of top clack on the zilents and the colors of 67g and 78g are a bit different. more pale than what is posted here.

Those were early prototypes and the colour was changed for the final production Zilents.
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