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Offline ye_cole

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[IC] ePBT Fortune (ssssamples)
« on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 00:35:59 »
Inspiration

Inspired by the Fortune 32:16 keyboard.




Colors Used

Alphas: 466 C
Mods: 7475 C
Alternate Mods: Cool Gray 10 C

Kit:




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[IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:31:47 »
No love for the uniform gray f-row?

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:43:31 »
The real tragedy is that this set abandons the best thing about the original set: it was made of lovely sphericals.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 15:30:26 »
I like what you're trying to accomplish and I know you've been working this for awhile, but I really think the original set is just must more attractive.. something about the wacky color scheme just works, and that charm is lost when translated to the standard color layout of every other custom set.
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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 15:55:54 »
Yeah, I said the same thing when it was originally proposed, tameone. But it is difficult to do tribute sets with GMK given their design restrictions. Another reason why GMK is the wrong choice, IMO.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 17:18:42 »
Actually, you guys have a point.

https://strawpoll.com/157a6ecw

Depending on what the results of this poll show, I'll change the set back to SA (maxkeys ofc) or GMK.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 17:50:17 »
Uniform grey F-row and arrow keys to match the source.  Also, "Back Space" on HHKB layout seems a little odd, why not just use "Delete"? 

Edit: just noticed source has "Back Space" also.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 18:14:34 »
SA maxkeys if you can offer the same compatibility Calm Depths had. All those extra molds are being made now so they should be available for everyone to use I presume

Feel free to take your time with this GB  :D there's too much on atm

And shouldn't the alpha colours be more like the A key in the source image, rather than the colour after they've yellowed?

Edit:  lol just realised you ran calm depths
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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 19:09:00 »
I presume that part of the appeal of its vintage look is the yellowed keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 19:39:23 »
Hope this back to SA again, as what was initially.
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Offline Wolf123rt

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 21:21:46 »
Let's say this ends up being made by maxkey, would it cost as much as calm depths did?

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 21:40:52 »
I think calm depths absorbed some of the cost for new molds, as did Lime, but I suspect we've seen the end of $80 maxkeys sets
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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 21:48:04 »
I'd have to ask them if I could use the old molds for this set as well.

If this is possible, you can estimate a price point of 90 USD due to the extra keys.

If not, I'm going to cheap out a little and try to go with an 80 dollar price point. :/

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 21:54:50 »
Welllll, nor sure of it's new mold dependent, but they can do glossy caps now too, and of course, glossy SA is infinity better than matte.
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Offline NoChance

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 23:04:30 »
Looks great. Barred F & J please.  :)

Edit: see it in the kit! Woot.

Offline Wolf123rt

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 00:00:35 »
Welllll, nor sure of it's new mold dependent, but they can do glossy caps now too, and of course, glossy SA is infinity better than matte.

They can? Where did you learn this?

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 03:11:46 »
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They can? Where did you learn this?

They're doing this for lime.

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 03:13:54 »
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They can? Where did you learn this?

They're doing this for lime.
I would like to see it here too, I think it'd be quite fitting for the style.

What do you think about a less-yellow alpha colour btw?

Offline ye_cole

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:04:26 »
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What do you think about a less-yellow alpha colour btw?

I'm not sure, but what color do you have in mind? Pantone, please. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:08:10 »
180246-0

small kit update btw

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 17:01:33 »
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What do you think about a less-yellow alpha colour btw?

I'm not sure, but what color do you have in mind? Pantone, please. :)

Honestly I'm not sure, but here's the board with less sun exposure



Have you decided on GMK/Maxkey?

Offline ye_cole

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 21:56:32 »
Probably going to stick with GMK. The poll appears to be relatively split.

Also, I think I'm going to keep the faded yellow alphas. I find them to be rather attractive.

The non-yellowed alphas on the board make it look like cream cheese and cyan.

Should I keep the all caps EXECUTE and HELP?

(also, gonna run through zfrontier. soon^tm)

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Re: [IC] GMK Fade (formerly GMK Fortune)
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 15 October 2017, 23:04:54 »
Yes stick with GMK please

Offline ye_cole

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 21 October 2017, 20:05:38 »
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Yes stick with GMK please

Sorry, but... oops.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 21 October 2017, 20:06:23 »
Added some kits for grey accent, we're back to SA, and I modded the base kit a little. :)

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 21 October 2017, 21:03:26 »
good to see its back to SA :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 21 October 2017, 21:45:00 »
I think SA is the right move even if it takes forever to produce. SPís SA is slightly backlogged.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 07:32:07 »
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Yes stick with GMK please

Sorry, but... oops.

Now I'm interested again. I'm assuming this is Maxkey SA still

Glossy finish on the top, too?

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 09:49:39 »
I'll have to ask zFrontier to ask.

Maxkey said they didn't want to use a glossy finish on dark caps, and these caps are mostly not dark, so probably?

There's still a decent chance that we may have to stick with matte. :/

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 13:15:32 »
Nice set I'll be in, but why Maxkey? It seems to be limiting... I mean no keys for 60% layouts...

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 13:45:10 »
You should probably take a look at the kit render, it's in the OP.

What keys do you not see for your board?

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 13:53:16 »
Nice set I'll be in, but why Maxkey? It seems to be limiting... I mean no keys for 60% layouts...

Op's previous maxkey group buy added a lot of new moulds for HHKB layout, 75%, etc. 60% should be fine

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 15:31:40 »
In the base kit, the colors of the RETURN and BACKSPACE keys need to be swapped. Also, it would be nice to add yellow SHIFT keys.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 22 October 2017, 15:35:22 »
I don't think it would look as nice if it's not glossy

Offline ye_cole

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 11:37:28 »
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In the base kit, the colors of the RETURN and BACKSPACE keys need to be swapped. Also, it would be nice to add yellow SHIFT keys.

Base kit is large af, probably not going to add yellow shifts. Sorry!

Also, can you point out what you mean? Sorry if I'm being really thick, but I'm not seeing it.

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I don't think it would look as nice if it's not glossy

I agree.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 11:56:35 »
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In the base kit, the colors of the RETURN and BACKSPACE keys need to be swapped. Also, it would be nice to add yellow SHIFT keys.

Base kit is large af, probably not going to add yellow shifts. Sorry!

Also, can you point out what you mean? Sorry if I'm being really thick, but I'm not seeing it.

I'm not suggesting that the yellow Shift keys should be an additional option. They should simply be the color for the Shift keys period.

If you look at the photo of the Fortune keyboard, the Return key is blue and the Backspace key is gray. In your set you have them the other way around.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 13:22:19 »
Nice set I'll be in, but why Maxkey? It seems to be limiting... I mean no keys for 60% layouts...

Op's previous maxkey group buy added a lot of new moulds for HHKB layout, 75%, etc. 60% should be fine

I saw the kit render in the OP and if the final kit will have all of those keys, I'm fine. But are you shure Maxkey can really produce all those keys?
Anyway, if possible I'd like to add R4 1.25 units and 1.00 units with CODE legend to use instead of windows keys (but this is not essential) and I'd like a lot to have esc and enter "accent" keys in orange or light yellow (but this is my personal taste and I understand that this would take us out from the original theme....)
Thumbs up for glossy.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 13:25:54 »
You should probably take a look at the kit render, it's in the OP.

What keys do you not see for your board?

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Sorry, in my previous message I quoted a wrong post (even if it was pertinent......), so I repeat it below.

I saw the kit render in the OP and if the final kit will have all of those keys, I'm fine. But are you shure Maxkey can really produce all those keys?
Anyway, if possible I'd like to add R4 1.25 units and 1.00 units with CODE legend to use instead of windows keys (but this is not essential) and I'd like a lot to have esc and enter "accent" keys in orange or light yellow (but this is my personal taste and I understand that this would take us out from the original theme....)
Thumbs up for glossy.



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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 23:01:25 »
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I saw the kit render in the OP and if the final kit will have all of those keys, I'm fine. But are you shure Maxkey can really produce all those keys?
Anyway, if possible I'd like to add R4 1.25 units and 1.00 units with CODE legend to use instead of windows keys (but this is not essential) and I'd like a lot to have esc and enter "accent" keys in orange or light yellow (but this is my personal taste and I understand that this would take us out from the original theme....)
Thumbs up for glossy.

Yeap, sure. Your request is actually in the kit already! :) Check the last kit render. The GMK render is only left up to give a better idea of the colors.

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I'm not suggesting that the yellow Shift keys should be an additional option. They should simply be the color for the Shift keys period.

If you look at the photo of the Fortune keyboard, the Return key is blue and the Backspace key is gray. In your set you have them the other way around.

Sorry, but no. I'm not going to be changing this.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:29:29 »
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I saw the kit render in the OP and if the final kit will have all of those keys, I'm fine. But are you shure Maxkey can really produce all those keys?
Anyway, if possible I'd like to add R4 1.25 units and 1.00 units with CODE legend to use instead of windows keys (but this is not essential) and I'd like a lot to have esc and enter "accent" keys in orange or light yellow (but this is my personal taste and I understand that this would take us out from the original theme....)
Thumbs up for glossy.

Yeap, sure. Your request is actually in the kit already! :) Check the last kit render. The GMK render is only left up to give a better idea of the colors.

You're right man, I didn't see the render you posted on the 15th of october..... sorry
So no chances to see an "accent kit" (esc + ansi and iso enter) in orange or light yellow?? Please, it would be great....

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 22:52:58 »
Got some quotes.

We'd be looking at 144 for the base kit at 100 units, and 100 at 200 units.

I have two options: make MOQ (artificially 200) or roll with a 144 dollar base kit, but MOQ 100. That being said, the base kit is pretty dang comprehensive.

Which one would you guys like?

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 23:00:34 »
I think you should remove the 40s support, and some 'redundant' keys like multiple homing keys, multiple 1u r4 keys (go with standard, or code/hack), etc.  you could remove like 15 keys and sell a lot more sets at a reasonable price. 
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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 23:04:51 »
Slimming kit at the moment.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 23:06:07 »
Gonna go with Calm Depths kit.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 23:18:44 »
https://i.imgur.com/kiMcMPY.png

here's the kit. It should be cheaper than CD at 200, ( i think :( )
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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 02:58:19 »
https://i.imgur.com/kiMcMPY.png

here's the kit. It should be cheaper than CD at 200, ( i think :( )

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Shame about the f-row options leaving, but I'm honestly not too bothered if it keeps the price down

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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 07:10:01 »
I think you could slim it down ever more.. no need to offer so many page up/down combos.  I think one page up/page down, home/end combo for 65/75% users, and one for 96/1800 is enough. 
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Re: [IC] SA FADE
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 25 October 2017, 13:25:01 »
https://i.imgur.com/kiMcMPY.png

here's the kit. It should be cheaper than CD at 200, ( i think :( )

 :thumb:

I think you could slim it down ever more.. no need to offer so many page up/down combos.  I think one page up/page down, home/end combo for 65/75% users, and one for 96/1800 is enough.

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OK with both, but please let there iso enter and, at least, R3 backslash/tilde for us EU guys....

Offline ye_cole

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Re: [IC] SA FADE (after layzer)
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 01:45:04 »
This set is going to come after laser ends on zFrontier.

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Re: [IC] SA FADE (after layzer)
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 02:55:53 »
I might jump on this  :)

Got some quotes.

We'd be looking at 144 for the base kit at 100 units, and 100 at 200 units.

I have two options: make MOQ (artificially 200) or roll with a 144 dollar base kit, but MOQ 100. That being said, the base kit is pretty dang comprehensive.

Which one would you guys like?

would be nice if we can reach 200 MOQ.

https://i.imgur.com/kiMcMPY.png

here's the kit. It should be cheaper than CD at 200, ( i think :( )

the kit is nice. (actually, I'm happy with the HHKB layout support alone, haha)
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