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[IC] SA Royalty (its in the soon^tm phase)
« on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 00:42:05 »
This is SA Royalty, a SA set inspired by the color palette of "The Royal Tenenbaums" and traditional japanese temples.

Please vote here! It would really help the set: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/SA-Royalty

Pantone colors are as follows:

Alphas: 491 C   
Mods: 504 C   
Legends: 7499 C 
Accent: 7570 C


How does it look? Feedback? Thoughts?

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Re: [IC] SA 1.0
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 01:02:27 »
damn man, the burgundy hate is real.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (name change soon, yay)
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 02:11:38 »
You should post color codes or something.

To me it just looks like Chocolatier or https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro


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[IC] SA Royalty (name change soon, yay)
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 16:28:51 »
Even if it is a maxkeys version of SA Chocolatier- Iíd be down for that.

(still salty about missing a Chocolatier set in the massdrop re-cap)

Even better, use that green and make it a proper remake of SA Retro, hell yeah


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (name change soon, yay)
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 16:38:29 »
So many maxkeys, so few ISO enters.

The day you get maxkey to invest in a new mold i'd buy maxkey. I want this set, but no enter is a no-go.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (name change soon, yay)
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 21:14:39 »
Even if it is a maxkeys version of SA Chocolatier- Iíd be down for that.

(still salty about missing a Chocolatier set in the massdrop re-cap)

Even better, use that green and make it a proper remake of SA Retro, hell yeah

I actually got the chocolatier 40% kit in the massdrop keycap recap. Super psyched man. :)

I don't actually want to remake any sets though. Thought the burgundy would be a nice, lowkey subtle set.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (name change soon, yay)
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 21:28:08 »
Changed colors. Now less similar to chocolatier, and it looks better. :)

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 30 October 2017, 22:27:18 »
Even if it is a maxkeys version of SA Chocolatier- Iíd be down for that.

(still salty about missing a Chocolatier set in the massdrop re-cap)

Even better, use that green and make it a proper remake of SA Retro, hell yeah

I actually got the chocolatier 40% kit in the massdrop keycap recap. Super psyched man. :)

I don't actually want to remake any sets though. Thought the burgundy would be a nice, lowkey subtle set.

Nice, it looks like such a nice set. I really need to get my hands on a set.

Anyway burgundy could be good - Iíll be interested to see some renders mate :)


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 18:24:21 »
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Nice, it looks like such a nice set. I really need to get my hands on a set.

Anyway burgundy could be good - Iíll be interested to see some renders mate :)


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 18:31:28 »
So burgundy alphas and dark brown mods?

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 18:54:51 »
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So burgundy alphas and dark brown mods?

Both alphas and mods are burgundy.

Color codes:

Alphas: 490 C   
Mods: 4975 C   
Legends: 7499 C   

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:25:35 »
I like it. Just trying to visualise it on a beige keyboard like the G80ís. what colour board do you think would suit this set?


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 22:02:36 »
Would really have to see these come back as actual key samples.  This seems highly dependent on the exact color.  Could end up being a long process like Keyboard & Co

Iím getting the vibe but they still look just a tad too brown.  Iím trying my hardest to see burgundy...

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:06:40 »
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http://Would really have to see these come back as actual key samples.  This seems highly dependent on the exact color.  Could end up being a long process like Keyboard & Co

I’m getting the vibe but they still look just a tad too brown.  I’m trying my hardest to see burgundy...

You are very, very spot on. If I can't nail the colors, I wouldn't put this on my own board. I'm going to make sure I get the colors right.

Also, as to the brown thing, is it perhaps you have f.lux on? The set looks very different IMO when under different color temperatures. The change is rather drastic. For a reference point, I'm looking at it under a color calibrated monitor at 6600K. You may want to check it out under that?

Thanks for the feedback. :)

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:38:10 »
KLE render is back up, and I updated the OP. It looks reeealy nice compared to non KLE render'd version.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty (richer reds)
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 01:08:54 »
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I like it. Just trying to visualise it on a beige keyboard like the G80ís. what colour board do you think would suit this set?

Hmm. Honestly, I would go for a burgundy board with this set. Beige would look good, and so would rose gold/champagne.

However, if I was to think of my ideal board to go with this set, in terms of color:

* Daaark Burgundy (at least as dark as the mods) powdercoated or anno finish. I would go powder coated on this, actually.

* Amber backlighting.

* Amber underglow.

IMO that would be endgame with this set.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 09:30:34 »
i think this looks much better than chocolatier which was a bit too rich of a brown for me. it'd be nice to see some possible crazy color options for the usual keys (esc, f5-f8, arrows, enter). striping could be cool too for the f-row or the numerics.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 14:37:25 »
Good luck. SA Retro burgundy is already out there, and the recent brown coffee set missed its moq.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 14:42:25 »
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I like it. Just trying to visualise it on a beige keyboard like the G80ís. what colour board do you think would suit this set?

Hmm. Honestly, I would go for a burgundy board with this set. Beige would look good, and so would rose gold/champagne.

However, if I was to think of my ideal board to go with this set, in terms of color:

* Daaark Burgundy (at least as dark as the mods) powdercoated or anno finish. I would go powder coated on this, actually.

* Amber backlighting.

* Amber underglow.

IMO that would be endgame with this set.

Gray would look good too.  Check out google for images of a Porsche with Burgundy interior :)

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 20:09:06 »
Yeah paired with a grey board would look classy as hell.

And as for the previous suggestion, sounds like a very mellow and warm overall design.. there's not enough of that around, what with all the purples/cyans/greens etc.  :thumb:
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 09:40:21 »
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Good luck. SA Retro burgundy is already out there, and the recent brown coffee set missed its moq.

MOQ is going to be 100, I hope we can at least make that. :/

Also, SA Retro burgundy is suuuuuuuuuuuuper rare. I don't really see how that set can possibly affect the numbers on this one when so few people have it. :/

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And as for the previous suggestion, sounds like a very mellow and warm overall design.. there's not enough of that around, what with all the purples/cyans/greens etc.  :thumb:

Thank you! :)

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 10:34:05 »
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Good luck. SA Retro burgundy is already out there, and the recent brown coffee set missed its moq.

MOQ is going to be 100, I hope we can at least make that. :/

Also, SA Retro burgundy is suuuuuuuuuuuuper rare. I don't really see how that set can possibly affect the numbers on this one when so few people have it. :/

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And as for the previous suggestion, sounds like a very mellow and warm overall design.. there's not enough of that around, what with all the purples/cyans/greens etc.  :thumb:

Thank you! :)

I'll be one of the 100, so you only need 99 more to sell!

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 12:35:49 »
Hooray!

Thank you. :)

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:51:38 »
I'd buy that.

But it's SA so even if you closed the GB today you'd probably be looking at a 2019 fulfillment date.  :-[

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:05:01 »
Nah, I'm looking at a 4-5 month turnaround time. :)

Maxkey is cool like that. :)


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:53:38 »
Isn't this a little close is this to GMK Samurai?

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 22:40:50 »
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Isn't this a little close is this to GMK Samurai?

Kinda? But kinda not? They both have burgundy alphas. And this has an orange accent key. They're both noticeably different colors.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They're different sets, based off of different things, and different profiles.

On a side note: why point this out? it's ok to look like a different set that may have already ran. It doesn't matter at all. Unless they're literally identical with no changes, then I, personally, find no issues with that. I'd be interested to hear everybody else's thoughts on the topic. Do you think it's worth pointing out that a set looks similar to another? Why or why not? (_rubik, this isn't specifically directed towards you. I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on this though.)

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 22:45:52 »
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Isn't this a little close is this to GMK Samurai?

Kinda? But kinda not? They both have burgundy alphas. And this has an orange accent key. They're both noticeably different colors.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They're different sets, based off of different things, and different profiles.

On a side note: why point this out? it's ok to look like a different set that may have already ran. It doesn't matter at all. Unless they're literally identical with no changes, then I, personally, find no issues with that. I'd be interested to hear everybody else's thoughts on the topic. Do you think it's worth pointing out that a set looks similar to another? Why or why not? (_rubik, this isn't specifically directed towards you. I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on this though.)

I pointed that out not to be harsh or intentionally difficult. I'm just weary of two sets with similar colorways running in close proximity because I feel that they would snub each others sales. Yes they are different profiles, but I feel like the sales would be split over the two. That being said, it does give buyers the ability to get the same colorway in their preferred profile, so maybe it's beneficial. I could be wrong on both counts....

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 23:07:43 »
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I pointed that out not to be harsh or intentionally difficult. I'm just weary of two sets with similar colorways running in close proximity because I feel that they would snub each others sales. Yes they are different profiles, but I feel like the sales would be split over the two. That being said, it does give buyers the ability to get the same colorway in their preferred profile, so maybe it's beneficial. I could be wrong on both counts....

That's cool man, totally get it. The whole side note was more of an in general point. Thanks for looking out for that, though!

Red Samurai is after laser (iirc?) so i should probably wait until some time after that has dropped to do this project.

Anyway, thanks for the concern and clarifying. Appreciate it.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 11:07:13 »
What a gorgeous color.
This set should be done!  :thumb:

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 11:21:56 »
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I pointed that out not to be harsh or intentionally difficult. I'm just weary of two sets with similar colorways running in close proximity because I feel that they would snub each others sales. Yes they are different profiles, but I feel like the sales would be split over the two. That being said, it does give buyers the ability to get the same colorway in their preferred profile, so maybe it's beneficial. I could be wrong on both counts....

That's cool man, totally get it. The whole side note was more of an in general point. Thanks for looking out for that, though!

Red Samurai is after laser (iirc?) so i should probably wait until some time after that has dropped to do this project.

Anyway, thanks for the concern and clarifying. Appreciate it.

i dont think this is so close to samurai.  samurai is dark grey mods + burgundy alphas with yellow legends. This is a red + red set.

 I think using brown mods would look incredible on this set.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 11:41:16 »
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I think using brown mods would look incredible on this set.

Hey, that's a really good idea. I'll definitely consider that and add a mockup soon.

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What a gorgeous color.
This set should be done!  :thumb:

Thanks! :)

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:25:07 »
I have been lurking here for over a year, and this post finally made me join. I would be very interested in this set. I have been looking for something like this since I discovered SA Retro, and how impossible it is to get, over a year ago.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:55:00 »
Can we not choose maxkey to produce the keyset? SP is back logged but provide much more high quality keycaps

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:00:33 »
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Can we not choose maxkey to produce the keyset? SP is back logged but provide much more high quality keycaps

I reeeaaaaallly don't like making people wait for 10 months after they purchase a product for them to get it. Also, Maxkey produces pretty quality keycaps. They're pretty on par with SP caps.

Name some quality issues, and provide links?

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:03:18 »
Here's a nice brown render using 4695C.



Here's one using 476 C.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:16:57 »
One more thing:

Would there be interest in a hiragana alphas kit? I'm thinking of adding one that's consistent with gorton modified. I was thinking the font Iroha Maru Mikami, with medium weight.



RAW cost would be about 75 bucks per kit at 200. So, not even sure if it will make it, but thought I would put it out there. I'll think of a cinematic reason later, but my current reason for this proposition is basically: I think it would look dope as ****. So yeah. Thoughts?


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 16:54:27 »
Here's a nice brown render using 4695C.

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Here's one using 476 C.

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Thats a tough choice.  I think I prefer the second one, though.  Of course, this makes it very close to reverse SA retro burgundy.  Me likey.
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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:01:47 »
agree that the second one is better. Usually darker color makes better mods.

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:13:04 »
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Thats a tough choice.  I think I prefer the second one, though.  Of course, this makes it very close to reverse SA retro burgundy.  Me likey.

As do I. That's pretty much my only qualm with that color choice, though. I didn't intend for this to be reverse SA retro.

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agree that the second one is better. Usually darker color makes better mods.

Yeap, spot on.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:13:29 »
Is there actual interest in a hiragana alpha kit?

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:20:30 »

As do I. That's pretty much my only qualm with that color choice, though. I didn't intend for this to be reverse SA retro.



This is the least thing you should worry about, or we would have missed alot of great set. I mean GMK BoW is just a reverse WoB.

How much does a maxkey mold cost? What me and many others want is ISO compatability in order to buy sets.
It just has to be done once, and all future set will benefit.


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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:24:02 »
not interested in the hiragana alphas or the darker brown. is there any chance you could get maxkey to produce an alpha kit and modifiers in different colors? i guess the real barrier would be hitting moq which seems to be a minimum of 100 for them to produce a set. i'd love to see a tannenbaum green modifiers and tannenbaum beige modifiers as renders (from the swatch set in the op).

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:34:07 »

As do I. That's pretty much my only qualm with that color choice, though. I didn't intend for this to be reverse SA retro.



This is the least thing you should worry about, or we would have missed alot of great set. I mean GMK BoW is just a reverse WoB.

How much does a maxkey mold cost? What me and many others want is ISO compatability in order to buy sets.
It just has to be done once, and all future set will benefit.

Actually, Maxkey doesn't appear to be making molds that durable for custom keys.  They've been telling designers that the custom molds can only be used for a limited number of times (800 sets).  There's more on this in the Maxkey Calm Depths thread:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90792.msg2518723#msg2518723

I don't know if anyone has asked them about the costs to make molds to the same specs (and durability) as their normal base set molds.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:55:38 »
There doesn't seem to be much interest. This is one of the few IC where most of the posts are by the thread starter.

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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 18:17:09 »
I know this wasnít your intention at the beginning, but I think that if you want this to be successful, turning this isnít a Maxkeys revision of SA Retro would attract a lot of attention. With the turn towards vintage-inspired custom keyboards here on GH at the moment, this could be the perfect timing for a retro set to pair with those boards. This could follow what was done for Maxkey Calm Depths, which also took an incredibly hard to get and inflated priced set and made it available to everyone again for like $120 bucks.

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Re: [IC] SA Royalty
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 19:41:39 »
I'd wait a little while to run it because of all the group buys going on right now (look at all the GMK sets struggling to meet MOQ), but when this runs I'm in.