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[GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 03:05:25 »


Southpaw Extended 65%. Six months in the making, we're finally at the group buy stage. NA orders go through me, EU orders go through candykeys, and asia orders go through KP. Links below

North America: switchplate.co
European Union: candykeys.com
Asia and Oceania: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718
For non-Chinese speaking customers in the Asia and Oceania region, Order through the NA website. Orders will be shipped directly to you from china and you will be billed for shipping separately. Check post on second page for estimates and instructions

FORMS FOR EXTRAS HEREhttps://goo.gl/forms/zFdTVwHD8Pjqf1rp2


An Alps+MX 65% board with a left hand number pad. Designed for maximum workspace fluidity, with centered alphanumerics and a full number pad without the compromise of pushing the mouse outwards. Full ISO support with flexible layout options that include a left handed arrow cluster, split backspace, and a full 4x5 macropad in the place of the numpad. Case options with pricing that spans across the board.

Layouts below. PCB Mounted Stabs only. For those with alps concerns, I'm working on an insert for PCB Mount cherry stabs that work with alps keycaps. Hopefully those will be done before this ships and I can throw some in.




Aluminum Case - Complete Kits starting at $210.00. Inc. both risers; 4 and 9 degrees.





Revisions:


USB opening revised to take all USB cables


Matching chamfer added to bottom edge


Support tabs milled into the corners of the case


Rear leg of 9 degree riser redesigned for new rubber pads


Bottom of case milled for rubber pad recess for use with cone feet


Both 4 and 9 degree risers now sit flush with the chamfer on the edge of the case


Both risers now have the front mount thread in from the bottom. This was done as there was not enough material on the risers to form strong enough threads if threaded from the top




Note that rubber feet for the keyboard will be included. They will most likely be the translucent thin material as opposed to the thicker crosshatched black material.



Integrated Case - Complete Kits for $107.50









Revisions:
- Drilled/Slotted for cone feet to give a 10ish degree angle
- Holes for diffuser removed



Bent Plate - Complete Kits for $91.50.


Builds into something like this: (75% board as an example)




Timeline looks to be around 6-9 weeks for production with a week in between a sorting/shipping time of 1-4 weeks.

Primary target is 100 units which is MOQ for the PCB. Interest check yields around 225 responses so everything looks good so far.

MOQ, and all other details listed on the main GB page on switchplate.co

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:19:20 »
UPDATES BELOW


- Decmber Update 1 - 12/3/17 - We're now done with the GB and have stopped taking orders. I am discussing MOQ with the vendor at the moment to see if we can convince the factories to produce a number of items that are not quite at MOQ. Most of the bent steel stuff has made it though and we're waiting to hear back on anodization and if we'll be able to anodize all the items that fall under a single color in one bath to make them available. As far as items that didn't meet MOQ, I'm in the process of emailing everyone who had something that didn't quite make it to production. If you're one of those people, you'll have the option of choosing another option or taking a full refund.

- January Update 1 - 1/13/18  -  I've been a little busy so apologies for the lack of delays but everything is going smoothly. We are still on track for the Mid February / Early March Ship date for all orders. Laser cut plates, bent plates, integrated cases and PCBs will be finished sometime later this month and should be packed and ready to ship to the US by the last week of this month. Aluminum cases are due a little later on the week before Lunar New Year and will be shipping mid-February if everything goes to plan and no delays are encountered.

The risers for the aluminum cases have undergone a small change that will not affect functionality. The front and rear edges that meet the case will be ever so slightly rounded with a .2mm fillet as to retain the anodization during handling. We've worked with the factory to produce a small batch of these updated cases before the production time that was secured so there will be a small run of these shipped to us later this month to check everything over and if there aren't any issues, we'll continue with production and complete the cases as scheduled.

- January Update 2 - 1/16/18  -  Just got some pictures from the factory and progress looks good. Small hitch with anodization as a result of issues with the fixtures, but that's been cleared up and the cases are being replaced. We're just a month or so away from the start of shipping so hang tight. I can promise everyone that this will be worth the wait.



- January Update 3 - 1/30/17  - So I was notified yesterday of a delay with the PCB production. The factory that will be doing the SMD work will be closing on the 5th (originally the 10th) because of an inspection that came up right before the CNY break that they had planned so they went ahead and gave everyone a longer vacation and moved the time slot for our PCBs to after their CNY break which lasts to the first week of March. Judging from production last time, it should take about a week and a half from the start of production to packaging, which then they'll be shipped. We're looking at a fulfillment start time of early/mid march. I'll get another update out as soon as that date nears and we get some concrete dates.

On the other hand, everything save for the anodizing of the CNC cases is finished.  I'm getting those shipped to me ahead of time to do a through QC on everything since I'll have some extra time now that we have to wait on the PCBs. As soon as those arrive, it's full speed ahead on packing and shipping everyone's orders.
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 22:23:46 »
Canít wait to join! Will this be on any Asian GB forums like Taobao? Want to save on shipping

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 31 October 2017, 23:59:30 »
Looking forward to it

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:05:35 »
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map  the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:40:53 »
Top quality post <3

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:52:08 »
Any idea when the EU proxy will be open for orders? 
 
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:58:46 »
Any idea when the EU proxy will be open for orders? 
 
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 04:00:10 »
Any idea when the EU proxy will be open for orders? 
 
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Reddit had in the next few days. That candykey's on one holiday.
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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 11:16:28 »
Could you link to the sites in OP please?

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 13:13:03 »
Is the PCB SMD-led compatible?

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:38:04 »
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map  the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?

It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.

The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:58:21 »
Canít wait to join! Will this be on any Asian GB forums like Taobao? Want to save on shipping

Asia proxy is up and running. Check the link at the top

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:30:43 »
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map  the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?

It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.

The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.



Thanks and QMK sounds like it most likely be as easy to setup I think been to that site before. As long as its semi easy to program. Cause I want to setup the left side with arrow key's + number keys from the top.. perhaps some other strange Additional keys. Thanks ok I keep track of what numbers are what cause... there a couple of case colors I really like. I am sure they will all hit MOT. There is one other question I wanted to ask will the PCB/Plate Support Screw in stabs and also plate mounted stabs? That way I can plan what I need to buy! Thanks I be watching this extremely closely the more I think about ditching my razor mouse! the happier I become.

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:44:44 »
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map  the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?

It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.

The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.



Thanks and QMK sounds like it most likely be as easy to setup I think been to that site before. As long as its semi easy to program. Cause I want to setup the left side with arrow key's + number keys from the top.. perhaps some other strange Additional keys. Thanks ok I keep track of what numbers are what cause... there a couple of case colors I really like. I am sure they will all hit MOT. There is one other question I wanted to ask will the PCB/Plate Support Screw in stabs and also plate mounted stabs? That way I can plan what I need to buy! Thanks I be watching this extremely closely the more I think about ditching my razor mouse! the happier I become.

The tmk firmware can be done on a variant of that same site, here: http://kb.sized.io/

TMK is a branch of QMK and afaik, some of the pins on the ATmega32u4 are mapped a little differently so you would need to look at that. This board runs off of the kimera controller designed by Kai Ryu and it's easiest to use TKG which is basically the same thing, but without the visuals. I'll have the matrix mapping up as soon as I can.

The plates don't take plate mount stabs because of how it's a universal plate for all the layouts. Screw and snap-in stabs will work for this.

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:54:46 »
IF i didn't want to order through taobao, could the aussies buy off the NA shop as well?
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:02:57 »
Hey, this looks awesome and our timelines match! GLWS guys

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:06:56 »
IF i didn't want to order through taobao, could the aussies buy off the NA shop as well?

Yeah, that works too. Just keep in mind shipping will be a little higher

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:10:46 »
Is the PCB SMD-led compatible?

The PCB is not per-key SMD LED compatible. There are SMD LEDs for the underglow though. 

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:17:06 »
I am really sorry I am asking so many questions so this board has SMD LED's but the CNC cases don't have any acrylic on them. Also how does order from the NA site work do you get charge right them are charged once the group buy goes life!.

Then I have one more question the bent case is the only one that would offer SMD Shine thought guessing from what I can see... how sturdy would that case be and how study would the USB connector be? I never used bent plate but kinda like the idea of having the SMD shine thought. Also whats the weight like on a bent case. Once again sorry like 300 questions

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 11:51:29 »
Wait... On the site it says   
 
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The PCB comes fully pre-soldered and in a green color.
 
 
I thought the PCB would be black or white?

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 14:21:37 »
Looking good, in for an integrated steel case & pcb, how will the holes on the integrated case be for the cone feet? 2 seperate holes for 8 & 11deg?

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 18:26:23 »
Looking good, in for an integrated steel case & pcb, how will the holes on the integrated case be for the cone feet? 2 seperate holes for 8 & 11deg?

I'll have them cut it as a slot in the same fashion as the CNC case. The angles are a really rough estimate, but I'll see if I can measure them again sometime today.

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 18:33:14 »
What a pretty board. Been looking to retire my Filco and this may be the board to do it

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 18:46:03 »
Can I submit a second order for add-on parts later during the group buy? I know I'd like to buy the bent plate & PCB kit + stabilizers but I'm not sure what switches I'd like to go with yet.
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 21:24:49 »
No acrylic on the cases?

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:15:29 »
No acrylic on the cases?

Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:16:55 »
Can I submit a second order for add-on parts later during the group buy? I know I'd like to buy the bent plate & PCB kit + stabilizers but I'm not sure what switches I'd like to go with yet.

Best if you submit the whole order at one time. Makes organization much easier for me.  :thumb:

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:26:02 »
No acrylic on the cases?

Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.
I sent an email on this but since you're in here, it says on the website that you will be restocking the EEPW84 aluminum cases at the end of the month. Is that including the black ones with acrylic insert?

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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 01:32:02 »
What color will the pcb be?

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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 01:59:02 »
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.

Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?

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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:41:53 »
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.

Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?


Don't quote me on this but couldn't you just use clear coat on it? I would think that protect it but once again I don't know. I just know you can clear coat most things to protect them against issues.

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:45:28 »
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.

Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?
I had a pok3r alu case that I sand blasted to raw alu. It looses a little shine over time but generally looks awesome.
I'm also getting the raw case, I think it looks great, and with a raw case you can always have it sanded, sand blasted, anodized or brushed later if it starts to look boring. I like the look of pls metal though.

I really wish there were a brass plate in the gb.

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:09:56 »
No acrylic on the cases?

Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.
I sent an email on this but since you're in here, it says on the website that you will be restocking the EEPW84 aluminum cases at the end of the month. Is that including the black ones with acrylic insert?

Just got to that email, but yes, it should be the black with the acrylic insert. iirc, we should have one or two of those when they come.

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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:11:43 »
What color will the pcb be?

PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:12:44 »
What color will the pcb be?

PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.
Awesome! That's great news. FYI the CandyKeys website says it will be green.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:15:17 »
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.

Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?

I had a raw mountain bike frame a few months back and it seemed to hold it's color pretty well. It was around 3 or 4 years old and was pretty much ridden in the rain and mud by the old owner and it doesn't look tarnished. The color of the aluminum was definitely different though. It developed the usual bluish oxidization which gives a frosted look of sorts but maintains the texture and all.

Just keep in mind that this was on a mountain bike, exposed to water, mud, and probably left in the elements from time to time.

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:15:56 »
What color will the pcb be?

PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.
Awesome! That's great news. FYI the CandyKeys website says it will be green.

Ah, I'll talk to david at candykeys about that and get it fixed asap. Thanks for the heads up!

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 05:47:17 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 05:59:21 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
I was originally planning this, cause laser has so many awesome keys you can put on the extra places on this layout, but then I got godspeed from the keything massdrop had a few days ago so now I'm doing a godspeed build I guess :)

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 06:15:30 »
curious why you don't have paypal as an option or at least I didn't see it.

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:38:25 »
curious why you don't have paypal as an option or at least I didn't see it.

This. I will probably buy into this if PP becomes an option; just easier to use my balance.

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:56:05 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
I was originally planning this, cause laser has so many awesome keys you can put on the extra places on this layout, but then I got godspeed from the keything massdrop had a few days ago so now I'm doing a godspeed build I guess :)

That was my initial plan but ended up deciding on this with Nautilus, currently trying to talk myself out of Gmk Laser (Kobe+Blocknet) but its not working so well  :))

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 21:16:27 »
curious why you don't have paypal as an option or at least I didn't see it.

This. I will probably buy into this if PP becomes an option; just easier to use my balance.

The issue with paypal is that the funds are withheld for 30 days after the transaction goes through which adds another 5 weeks to the GB timeline since I'm at the cap for this month from selling a bike to a someone. Didn't think of this when I was selling the bike  :(

If you would like, I can go ahead and send you a paypal invoice and have you pay that, then manually enter an order into the system. This would mean I would have to put some of my own money from my bank account into the buy then waiting for the payment to clear and then replacing it, but not too keen on doing that.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 03 November 2017, 21:18:01 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 01:12:58 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 03:32:07 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.

Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 04:43:51 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.

Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.

Realized that I missed that. It should be mini USB. I'll update the product page tomorrow morning. 

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 06:21:50 »
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.

Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.

Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.

Realized that I missed that. It should be mini USB. I'll update the product page tomorrow morning.

Thanks! Pretty excited about this. Only bought pre-built and never soldered before. But I'm sure I can manage it when the time comes :)

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 18:21:42 »
Never built a keeb before so maybe this is stupid, but for the bent plate kit, do i still need to get stabilizers? and if I buy purple LED's, would those be put on the underside of the PCB for a purple underglow? I saw that the PCB has underglow but I still not sure if that means I need to provide the LED's for said underglow!

thanks any and all for the help!

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 18:30:00 »
Never built a keeb before so maybe this is stupid, but for the bent plate kit, do i still need to get stabilizers? and if I buy purple LED's, would those be put on the underside of the PCB for a purple underglow? I saw that the PCB has underglow but I still not sure if that means I need to provide the LED's for said underglow!

thanks any and all for the help!

Don't quote me on this but 99.9% sure you wouldn't need to add LED's for the under glow. it should be pre soldered with SMD's. I think thats what there called... and you would need stabilizers that I know for a fact. I am not sure thought if you need plate are pcb stabilizers are if it matter.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 21:00:05 »
AU and NZ on Taobao??? I don't speak Chinese! I can't order from there? Can I use the USA proxy?

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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 21:53:46 »
AU and NZ on Taobao??? I don't speak Chinese! I can't order from there? Can I use the USA proxy?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2516180#msg2516180

Yes, but the shipping will be higher.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 22:45:39 »
Can anyone confirm the translation from Chinese on Taobao:
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda"  :)  = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:25:29 »
Can anyone confirm the translation from Chinese on Taobao:
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda"  :)  = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.

I'm looking at it with Google translate.  I believe the Taobao options are:

"85SP PCB" = the PCB only (no case)
"85SP anodized aluminum housing" = the anodized aluminum case (no pcb, no plate)
"85SP MX stainless steel positioning plate" = cherry MX plate for the aluminum case, in stainless steel
"85SP ALPS stainless steel positioning plate" = alps plate for the aluminum case, in stainless steel
"85SP stainless steel bending light shell" = bent plate case
"85SP stainless steel enclosure" = integrated steel case

If you click on each of the options on the Taobao page to see the price, the prices for each item match the switchplate.co prices, so you can double check the translations that way.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 16:22:44 »
Does the PCB support holtite?

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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 20:21:46 »
Does the PCB support holtite?

No holtites for this once since the pads are oval to accommodate alps and mx switches. 

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« Reply #57 on: Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:02:34 »
joined! can't wait!   :D

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« Reply #58 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 00:47:13 »
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:31:15 »
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.

The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:34:50 »
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.

The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.

Any other alternatives for Australia? I don't want to use taobao . I can't read it. I had problems in the past with communication.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:36:34 »
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.

The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.

Any other alternatives for Australia? I don't want to use taobao . I can't read it. I had problems in the past with communication.

I'm willing to take international orders through switchplate, but just keep in mind that the taobao proxy is there to keep shipping costs down. If you don't mind paying a little more for shipping, I can take your order and ship it to you from the US.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:22:11 »
Where is the switch located for the 6u spacebar layout? Is it center stem or offset?

Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.

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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 02:55:51 »
Can you do mixed layouts like short left shift, and ansi enter? And split space bar is that possible?

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 05:41:59 »
Oh man this looks nice!

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:21:35 »
Where is the switch located for the 6u spacebar layout? Is it center stem or offset?

Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.

GMK has used offset until some recent sets which started offering centered.  For DSA, it is center stemmed but the stabilizer stems are much closer together than standard.  XDA is offset.  Dunno of any other MX profiles with 6u bars.

In any case I think it'd be better to just use the 7u bar since compatibility is much easier.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:27:52 by a_ak57 »

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:14:42 »
Where is the switch located for the 6u spacebar layout? Is it center stem or offset?

Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.

GMK has used offset until some recent sets which started offering centered.  For DSA, it is center stemmed but the stabilizer stems are much closer together than standard.  XDA is offset.  Dunno of any other MX profiles with 6u bars.

In any case I think it'd be better to just use the 7u bar since compatibility is much easier.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 07 November 2017, 22:52:04 »
Can you do mixed layouts like short left shift, and ansi enter? And split space bar is that possible?

Yeah, you can mix and match with layouts. We couldn't do a split shift since we needed space for the controller where one of the switches for the split space would be.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 04:08:11 »
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 04:55:32 »
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 09:36:26 »
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?

Let me check with the designer tonight, from what I understood is that it has Underglow support and not already installed meaning there are 4 pins that you need to connect the strips to and install on the bottom of the PCB
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 08 November 2017, 16:51:43 »
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?

The underglow is pre-soldered as SMD LEDs when all the other SMD components are installed. There is an option to install additional LEDs through output pads on the board. The controller supports up to 32 LEDs.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 10 November 2017, 23:00:58 »
The underglow is pre-soldered as SMD LEDs when all the other SMD components are installed. There is an option to install additional LEDs through output pads on the board. The controller supports up to 32 LEDs.

Not that this probably matters yet, but can you individually configure each smd led to have like a rainbow effect?

Similar to this?
« Last Edit: Fri, 10 November 2017, 23:05:05 by speaktobrett »

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 11 November 2017, 20:53:30 »
Yeah, you should be able to set it to a wave-like pattern with RGB as depicted above.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 13 November 2017, 01:17:55 »
GB ist Open till first of December right? I'd have to wait for my paycheck :D

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:56:42 »
What are the dimensions of the cases? Particularly the bent plate one. I'm looking to buy a palm rest for the keyboard but what are some good dimensions that will fit this keyboard without being to short/long?

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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 14 November 2017, 18:56:35 »
GB ist Open till first of December right? I'd have to wait for my paycheck :D

Yep! Open till the first of December. The earlier you get your order in, the better. If we meet MOQ before the GB period ends, I can start production early and shorten the wait time.

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« Reply #77 on: Tue, 14 November 2017, 18:57:51 »
What are the dimensions of the cases? Particularly the bent plate one. I'm looking to buy a palm rest for the keyboard but what are some good dimensions that will fit this keyboard without being to short/long?

Roughly 385mm wide and 15mm tall

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 13:25:31 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

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« Reply #79 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 14:14:08 »
it does look good . and i live in EU so finally something close to me  :thumb:
but i'm waiting for my dream layout.. nothing bigger than this for me.. TMK compatible of course..

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:14:35 »
I got this question from a redditor: "What if I buy the PCB and the bent case. The PCB eventually make MOQ but the bent case doesnít?"

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 04:19:30 »
Not sure how i'll like the left handed numpad at work but at this price point it sounds like a fun option to try out! Thanks for working on this  :thumb:
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« Reply #82 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 12:40:36 »
I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed that the Alps options are thoroughly DOA.  Was hoping to have the ability to throw some Matias Quiet Clicks in this to use as a work board, but guess it wasn't meant to be.

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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 17:20:11 »
I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed that the Alps options are thoroughly DOA.  Was hoping to have the ability to throw some Matias Quiet Clicks in this to use as a work board, but guess it wasn't meant to be.

I wouldn't say the Alps options are all completely dead just yet.  One of the issues with this group buy is that there are so many options, which makes it impossible for the least popular options to meet MOQ, but if you can convince those buyers to move over onto more popular options, then you can meet MOQ.  To give an example of what I mean, right now the Alps compatible plates have 2 orders in stainless, 2 in black aluminum, 1 in purple aluminum, and none in any of the other options for alps plates.  I don't think there's any chance of the stainless (at 2 out of 30) or purple aluminum (at 1 out of 8 ) meeting MOQ.  I'm planning on ordering two black Alps plates, which gets it to 4 out of an 8 MOQ.  If we can convince the two stainless orders and 1 purple order to get black aluminum, then all it takes is one more black alps aluminum plate order to meet MOQ, and we all win.

In fact, I just placed my order, so black aluminum Alps plates should be at least 4/8 the next time the table gets updated.  If you're thinking of ordering an Alps plate, I'd suggest getting black.

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« Reply #84 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:28:28 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.

As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.

Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:34:07 »
I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed that the Alps options are thoroughly DOA.  Was hoping to have the ability to throw some Matias Quiet Clicks in this to use as a work board, but guess it wasn't meant to be.

I wouldn't say the Alps options are all completely dead just yet.  One of the issues with this group buy is that there are so many options, which makes it impossible for the least popular options to meet MOQ, but if you can convince those buyers to move over onto more popular options, then you can meet MOQ.  To give an example of what I mean, right now the Alps compatible plates have 2 orders in stainless, 2 in black aluminum, 1 in purple aluminum, and none in any of the other options for alps plates.  I don't think there's any chance of the stainless (at 2 out of 30) or purple aluminum (at 1 out of 8 ) meeting MOQ.  I'm planning on ordering two black Alps plates, which gets it to 4 out of an 8 MOQ.  If we can convince the two stainless orders and 1 purple order to get black aluminum, then all it takes is one more black alps aluminum plate order to meet MOQ, and we all win.

In fact, I just placed my order, so black aluminum Alps plates should be at least 4/8 the next time the table gets updated.  If you're thinking of ordering an Alps plate, I'd suggest getting black.

Hey man, I got your order, Really appreciate it and this really helps the MOQ.

As far as the MOQ for alps boards, it looks like I might have to email everyone at the end and see if they want to move their order to the black anodized aluminum Alps plate. The only small issue I find is that the black aluminum plate is a few dollars more expensive compared to the stainless steel options, but I hope that people don't mind paying a few more dollars or giving up a color in order to make MOQ. If there are one or two plates that are left, I will definitely be getting at least 2 or 3 to keep in stock and one for myself as I'm leaning towards building one up with quiet clicks or SKCM blues.

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« Reply #86 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:36:46 »
I got this question from a redditor: "What if I buy the PCB and the bent case. The PCB eventually make MOQ but the bent case doesnít?"

At the moment, what I'm thinking is that I'll most likely have people from the integrated case choose between the bent case and the aluminum case if the MOQ isn't met for both. As for the rest of the order, I'll most likely dig into my own pocket and buy out the rest of the bent cases since I am pretty set on making the entry price point of 95 bucks a reality.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:54:20 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.

As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.

Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.

Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.

I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:58:08 »
If the integrated plate case doesn't happen can I buy yours  :)) :p

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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:28:33 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.

As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.

Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.

Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.

I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.

I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:27:22 »
Two Week update

We're two weeks in with two weeks to go. 10 more orders to MOQ. Lets do this.

Small changes have been made so everyone is aware. The biggest change is the redesign on the risers and bottom of the case. After some review, there wasn't enough material on the front of the 4 degree riser to accommodate a screw so we reversed the design with the case being threaded and the side with the riser taking the screw. The risers have also been slightly redesigned so that the legs would sit flush with the bottom chamfer of the case.

ATTENTION ASIA AND OCEANIA CUSTOMERS

After some talking with KP, we decided to go another route with the orders that were placed in non-chinese speaking parts of asia and oceania. Please order on the switchplate peripherals website and pick the "Asia/Oceania Dropship" option. We will bill you for shipping afterwards. To get a quick idea of how much shipping will be, we're using SF express which is insanely faster and insanely better than epacket since we don't have enough constant volume for the DHL reduced rate shipping. Check shipping costs at the link below. Rough weights for the each item will also be posted below, but just keep in mind that packaging will add to volumetric weight and space.

These orders will be processed by me, then the orders will be forwarded to KP, the same vendor on Taobao and shipped by them. The items are shipping out of Beijing and will be shipped around the same time as the US and EU orders.

AL Case - 900g
Bent Plate - 480g
Integrated Case - 900g
PCB - 150g
Stainless Steel Plate - 125g
Aluminum Plate - 80g

http://www.sf-express.com/cn/en/dynamic_function/price/


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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 23:11:33 »
Can anyone confirm the translation from Chinese on Taobao:
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda"  :)  = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.

If you haven't ordered yet, I've gone to a different system. Check my post above this.

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« Reply #92 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 22:56:42 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.

As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.

Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.

Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.

I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.

I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.

Would you mind elaborating more about having "more success" with PCB mount switches than plate mount. What do you mean by that? Do you mean switch alignment etc...

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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:24:01 »
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?

As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?

At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.

As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.

Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.

Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.

I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.

I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.

Would you mind elaborating more about having "more success" with PCB mount switches than plate mount. What do you mean by that? Do you mean switch alignment etc...

A wall of text ahead, but I'm not sure how to explain it without going in-depth


So taking from what I've built, with plate mount switches, the interface of the switch and plate vary because of how the tolerances vary from manufacture to manufacture and from run to run. Some switches fit loosely in the plate (older Kailhs) and some fit really really tight (New Otemu pros). If you have tighter switches, no problem, but when you have looser ones, alignment starts to become an issue. Optimally, it's a press-fit (rather than slip fit) interface between the PCB and the switch. for PCB mount switches.  This is one of the advantages that I've found.

Alignment also is much easier with kits that have universal plates. A good example would be the break/backslash key right above the enter. Since most plates that are universal are cut out for the ISO stab too, the only support is at the top left corner where the switch doesn't "lock in" since the two tabs at the top and bottom don't make contact. This also creates a sort of vertical alignment (think z axis) issue in addition to having it aligned horizontally (think x and y axis).

As far as vertical alignment is concerned, most PCB mount switches help with this. This really depends on the tolerance of the switch housings and the size of the PCB mount holes on the PCB itself. Most of the switches, if you've noticed have four small nubs on each corner of the switch housing on the bottom. Those should sit right on the PCB itself. If the switch/PCB interface well with each other, you should have to push the switch into position with a little bit of force. This causes the extra aligning legs to bite into the PCB and keep the switch there. If the switch is seated all the way, then the four little nubs should sit right on the PCB without any room between. This though, doesn't work if the PCB and switch housing don't mesh well together. You can usually tell if you press the switch into the PCB and it falls out when you turn it upside down.

On the other hand, with plate mount switches, you're relying on the plate to provide the vertical alignment and make sure that all four nubs are in contact with the PCB. The issue here is that the only thing holding it to the PCB are the solder contacts as well as the center round thing on the bottom of the switch. Most of the time (in my experience) doesn't interface all that well with the PCB and doesn't provide that same "holding" force it does with PCB mount legs. This means that when you are soldering the switch in, you basically have to compress the switch and the PCB in order to make sure that the four nubs on the corners are sitting all the way flush with the PCB. This is a pain in the ass to do. Even moreso if you have to manually align the switches so that it's straight, horizontally as I mentioned above.

As far as stiffness, I think it might be all relative. Or maybe there's science behind it. I don't know, but building with the PCB mount switches on the XD84 bent plate as opposed to the plate mount switches has given me a sturdier feel. I would say this is from the support coming from both the PCB and the plate since the bottom of the switch is being held by the two tabs mounting the switch housing to the plate and the PCB mount legs, in addition to the soldered contact points holding the four nubs down against the PCB. I guess that last point is also applicable if you build your board really well and make sure that the switch is held down against the PCB as mentioned above.

Some issues with this are that if you're kinda going for a quicker build, you can't just pop all the switches into the plate real quick and line it up with the PCB. You need to go one-by-one pushing them into the plate and PCB at the same time, making sure that the switch is seated all the way. Because of the force you need to push the damn switches into the PCB combined with the force it takes to push the switches into the plate, you can't really feel if the terminals (I think that's the term) aren't aligned with the thru holes and you end up with completely bent ones that don't make it through the PCB out to the other side. If you try to apply the same method that you use with plate mount switches (populating the plate, then just aligning with the PCB) you end up with the issue of the two extra PCB mount legs requiring too much force to press into the PCB itself since now, instead of needing enough force to press one into the PCB, they're all connected together and basically impossible to press into the PCB. You then either end up with either/both PCB and plate not being flat since it's damn impossible to apply all the force you need to press all the pins into the PCB at once.


Uhhh... and take this with a grain of salt since I haven't exactly tried this with all the combos that would make a difference.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 23 November 2017, 02:05:37 »
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.

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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 23 November 2017, 22:44:45 »
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.

There's sometimes a dyesub set by Robo that gets run by MD sometimes that around 30 bucks and is thick PBT that works really well. Basically, anything that has 65% compatibility and a numpad should work.

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« Reply #96 on: Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:15:32 »
Pulled the trigger on this, it will be my first keyboard build. Can't wait, this layout is fantastic.

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 02:09:22 »
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.

They're actually running them right now. Linked them below.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/133-key-pbt-cherry-keycap-set

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 10:37:59 »
When do you think we can expect pictures of an anodized aluminum case?

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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 13:10:40 »
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.

They're actually running them right now. Linked them below.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/133-key-pbt-cherry-keycap-set

Nice! Thanks!

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« Reply #100 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 22:16:20 »
When do you think we can expect pictures of an anodized aluminum case?

I'm trying to see if we can get a pilot run together for anodization while still maintaining the timeline. Something that should've been worked out beforehand, but I still want to get it done nevertheless. Just keep an eye on this thread and I'll put a date or time up when I know.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 08:16:29 »
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)

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« Reply #102 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:46:05 »
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)

The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.

The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.

Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point. 

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« Reply #103 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 01:20:00 »
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)

The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.

The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.

Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point.

Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to check with local places regarding preparatory surface work before the drop ends. I really like the layout and the possible option of buying a raw case and then doing a custom finish is a very intriguing one. And one I haven't seen before.

It was precisely the option of a cerakote/powder coat in white/teal that attracted me to the raw option. :D

Will Southpaw make a comeback at a later point?

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 05:57:36 »
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)

The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.

The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.

Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point.

Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to check with local places regarding preparatory surface work before the drop ends. I really like the layout and the possible option of buying a raw case and then doing a custom finish is a very intriguing one. And one I haven't seen before.

It was precisely the option of a cerakote/powder coat in white/teal that attracted me to the raw option. :D

Will Southpaw make a comeback at a later point?

No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Accepting orders until December 1st
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:11:45 »
No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...

Interesting! Might that include cerakote then perhaps?

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« Reply #106 on: Fri, 01 December 2017, 00:42:09 »
No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...

Interesting! Might that include cerakote then perhaps?

Possibily, though, at the moment, it's some words on paper and a really rough cad model. Cerakote is a more expensive finish when compared to anodization since things that fit or thread into each other need to be masked off in order for things to work well with each other which is why I didn't offer it for this GB.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - FINAL DAY
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 02 December 2017, 05:05:07 »
Already Join, hope I can find plastic / acrylic case that can fit.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - FINAL DAY
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:00:29 »
so whats happening with the integrated case?  :'(

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - FINAL DAY
« Reply #109 on: Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:40:43 »
reconsiderit,
Sent you a message on this! Hopefully you get it before the order is placed

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - FINAL DAY
« Reply #110 on: Sat, 02 December 2017, 23:56:32 »
Damn I'm a day late!! Will there be extras?

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - FINAL DAY
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 03 December 2017, 21:51:10 »
Damn I'm a day late!! Will there be extras?

There should be a handful of extras later on down the road. Not all colors and options will be available though.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 08 December 2017, 05:05:42 »
No email for stainless steel plate, so Iím guessing it passed MOQ? Sure hope this is the case either way canít wait for this board :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #113 on: Sat, 09 December 2017, 17:21:44 »
No email for stainless steel plate, so Iím guessing it passed MOQ? Sure hope this is the case either way canít wait for this board :thumb:

Stainless steel plate is a go. Talked it over with manufacturing and they've said that they were willing to make just 20 of them since we have a fair amount of orders for the other items that they were producing. 

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 11 December 2017, 11:54:08 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
  

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #115 on: Mon, 11 December 2017, 22:56:48 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #116 on: Mon, 18 December 2017, 18:46:15 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

Nicey nice :).

Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
  

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #117 on: Mon, 18 December 2017, 21:53:26 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

Nicey nice :).

Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.

eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things  :))

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 21 December 2017, 05:29:26 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

Nicey nice :).

Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.

eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things  :))

It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.

I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X
  

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 21 December 2017, 23:29:53 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

Nicey nice :).

Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.

eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things  :))

It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.

I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X

For the Kailh and Outemu switch tops... i will tell you the trick is thumb nails.  ;)
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:10:08 »
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D

I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?

Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)

Nicey nice :).

Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.

eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things  :))

It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.

I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X

For the Kailh and Outemu switch tops... i will tell you the trick is thumb nails.  ;)


something I have none of  :mad:

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 23 December 2017, 22:45:30 »
The aluminum case design was changed again due to issues with threading the aluminum. The front threads for the risers that were tapped into the case will be replaced by captive hardware since it is much more resistant to over-torquing and stripping. Additionally, the hardware is replaceable in the case that the threads are stripped.




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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 12:49:46 »
is this expected to delay shipping? *hope not!*

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:20:59 »
is this expected to delay shipping? *hope not!*

Luckily, this won't delay shipping. I'm getting the pilot/QC run next week which has a few differences from the production units so when I have those on hand, I'll grab some photos.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #124 on: Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:31:24 »
Excited for this more than my XDA Godspeed!

What's the shipping estimate looking like at the moment?

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 10 January 2018, 03:13:18 »
Excited for this more than my XDA Godspeed!

What's the shipping estimate looking like at the moment?

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Shipping estimate looks to be at the earliest, end of this month if some miracle happens, but as far as production is looking, the laser cut steel stuff and the PCBs will be finished late this month, then shipped to me, so most likely early February. The aluminum cases will be finished a little later and if we don't run into any issues, those should be shipped to me right before the CNY week. 

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Organizing Production
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 10 January 2018, 23:29:05 »
Thanks for all the updates.  Can't wait for my board.
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 16 January 2018, 23:45:47 »
Just Another little update if you haven't subscribed to the update emails or haven't checked the website, but things are moving along smoothly. Factory has finished the 5 cases of the QC batch and there were some issues with the hanging fixture being used in the anodization process so they've moved to a new fixture which should eliminate the issue. Apart from that, the CNC work has been finished on 30 of the 90 cases which are looking pretty good so far. We're just a mere month away from shipping these out so hang tight!


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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 17 January 2018, 05:31:35 »
Thanks for the update :)

Can't wait for it :)

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 19 January 2018, 15:28:12 »
Just Another little update if you haven't subscribed to the update emails or haven't checked the website, but things are moving along smoothly. Factory has finished the 5 cases of the QC batch and there were some issues with the hanging fixture being used in the anodization process so they've moved to a new fixture which should eliminate the issue. Apart from that, the CNC work has been finished on 30 of the 90 cases which are looking pretty good so far. We're just a mere month away from shipping these out so hang tight!

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:12:45 »
Can someone please hook me up with the color samples from this group buy? I can't seem to find them.
  

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #131 on: Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:29:19 »
Can someone please hook me up with the color samples from this group buy? I can't seem to find them.

I don't see them on the Switchplate site anymore, but the color samples are still shown on the Taobao listing, about a third of the way down the page:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - In Production. On Schedule.
« Reply #132 on: Fri, 19 January 2018, 20:15:36 »
Can someone please hook me up with the color samples from this group buy? I can't seem to find them.

I don't see them on the Switchplate site anymore, but the color samples are still shown on the Taobao listing, about a third of the way down the page:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718

Thanks. Is the blue Cyan? I can't really tell because of the lighting. Or is it a light blue?
  

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 03:15:42 »
There's been a sort of unexpected delay with the production of the PCBs and we won't be able to meet the original fulfillment deadline that was mid Feb to early Mar. Expecting those to finish up early march. Check the second post on the first page for more details. Really sorry about the delay and will keep everyone updated to the best of my abilities. 

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 09:22:08 »
A DELAY?! IN A GB???

Thank you for the heads up :p and appreciate being so quick with announcements.
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 18:09:58 »
how will I survive with such a delay

pray for me


Thanks for the transparent update  :thumb: glad to hear you're on top of it all.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #136 on: Sun, 04 February 2018, 11:08:41 »
Long time lurker first time poster - thanks for the update! This is still looking like one of the fastest GB's I've been in, so not a concern at all.

This will be my first time  putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #137 on: Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:31:10 »
Long time lurker first time poster - thanks for the update! This is still looking like one of the fastest GB's I've been in, so not a concern at all.

This will be my first time  putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!

i think it's QMK, so just look up a guide for that
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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #138 on: Sun, 04 February 2018, 21:24:19 »
Long time lurker first time poster - thanks for the update! This is still looking like one of the fastest GB's I've been in, so not a concern at all.

This will be my first time  putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!

i think it's QMK, so just look up a guide for that

This one is TMK. I'll be posting the matrix map and everything else for you guys to put into tkg.io in a little bit.

Edit: Also, a lot of people are asking me for extras so I've linked a sort of reservation form below for extras.

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 15 February 2018, 05:26:14 »
Will there be any extra?
Few months too late...😞

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Re: [GB] Southpaw Extended 65% - Production Delay
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 15 February 2018, 13:55:55 »
Will there be any extra?
Few months too late...😞

Did you see the link in the post above? First step would be to fill that out :)