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Offline J888www

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« on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 12:32:53 »
First time I've seen one of these SuperTouch and it's NEW too, shame it's only shipping to US, but good since I've no need for more KBDs.
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 12:59:03 »
White alps on this one like the minitouch?
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 13:01:21 »
According to the listing, it appears so.  I would ask the seller to remove a keycap to know for sure.  It would be nice if the seller would post some better pics, too.
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Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 14:26:18 »
Seems like I read somewhere this was the same as a Suntouch K101 which was a rebranded Chicony KB-5181.  All second hand info though, can't vouch for it.  FYI, if you zoom in on that picture in the ebay link, you'll see the box says wintouch, not supertouch.

Here is a supertouch picture from amazon:
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 15:26:51 »
Switches don't click, I asked the seller when they were first listed.
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 15:41:38 »
Speaking of which check this out:
http://www.amazon.com/80-key-Minitouch-Plus-Enhanced-Keyboard/dp/B00006BA8M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269463205&sr=8-1
Siig 80 key spacesaver keyboard  Very small.  I wonder if it has mechanical switches in it.
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Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 15:46:57 »
Rubber dome.  I got excited seeing the same board at CDW in stock with an AT connector, but it's not mechanical like the older SIIG Minitouch was.
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Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 16:06:07 »
Quote from: didjamatic;166569
Switches don't click, I asked the seller when they were first listed.
In that case, the seller should correct the description as "High-quality mechanical keyswitches provide durability and the click and feel users prefer." seems deceptive.
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 16:22:02 »
Seller says "They are clear under the keys and they don't really click when you press them down"
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 17:00:08 »
Quote from: didjamatic;166589
Seller says "They are clear under the keys and they don't really click when you press them down"


What does that mean?  Non clicky alps should be black alps..  does this mean these are domes?
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Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position
KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 17:14:39 »
That's my guess, sounds like silicone.
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Offline J888www

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 18:03:24 »
Although the Box says WinTouch, the seller does state it as JK-ALW013 which should be the SuperTouch model, whereas the WinTouch model should be JK-AKW012.
Apparently there's also a TrueTouch and of course the MiniTouch.
Then again, best be sure of the product first else it may lead to disappointment.

According to this review the SuperTouch has Clicky switches with an AT connector.

I wonder what inspired the seller's description and where the picture.........??

The full review says the SuperTouch has a backward L enter key, so the photo may possibly be the of the WinTouch.
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Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 24 March 2010, 20:23:13 »
Quote from: J888www;166614
Although the Box says WinTouch, the seller does state it as JK-ALW013 which should be the SuperTouch model, whereas the WinTouch model should be JK-AKW012.
Apparently there's also a TrueTouch and of course the MiniTouch.
Then again, best be sure of the product first else it may lead to disappointment.

According to this review the SuperTouch has Clicky switches with an AT connector.

I wonder what inspired the seller's description and where the picture.........??

The full review says the SuperTouch has a backward L enter key, so the photo may possibly be the of the WinTouch.

Best I can tell the photo on ebay is not the JK-AKW012, rather it should look like the photo from Amazon above.  I found the exact same single review on amazon and epinions, but no others, a bit odd.  It's hard to judge what these are and if they're worth anything without more info.  As has been said, real pictures from the seller would go a long way.
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 25 March 2010, 00:17:26 »
This article calls the siig supertouch a buckling springs keyboard :P
http://www.limblab.org/publications/jindrich_cb_2004.pdf
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Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position
KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 29 March 2010, 18:09:37 »
Well, I won one.  Someone totally overbid my .99 cent bid.  Anyone here win the other 3?

I guess we'll see what it turns up as when it arrives.  The seller was nice enough to tell me that it has a regular shaped enter key, but the switch does not say "alps" on it.  We'll see if I just spent $16 on a dome or what..
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Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position
KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 29 March 2010, 20:19:51 »
That "Supertouch" keyboard looks to have a pretty mini-sized space bar...
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Offline elbowglue

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 05 April 2010, 14:48:55 »
Well, it came in - it's not mechanical, it's rubber dome.  But it's a pretty nice dome board for sure, almost as good as any other rubber dome that I've tried.  It's not a bad KB at all.

It's acutally the Siig JK-ALW012 not the JK-ALW013 as advertised.

Ohwell what are ya gonna do.

Oh yeah it's not a Siig Supertouch, it's the Siig Wintouch.
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Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position
KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 05 April 2010, 15:22:25 »
Dang, I thought for sure that would have been ALPS.  I would have bought it if I didn't have so many ALPS boards at the moment, I'm looking for some specific ones and vowed I wouldn't get any more until I get those.

It would still go well with a Minitouch.
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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 05 April 2010, 15:25:06 »
THIS is the SIIG Minitouches big brother I believe.
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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 05 April 2010, 15:31:03 »
SIG Tactile Touch with subtle feedback:



Wait... wrong "SIIG."
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