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Re: [GB] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. Fr87 GB ended.
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 05 May 2018, 06:14:09 »
Hi guys, Alex here

In short, I sincerely apologize for lack of updates, some issues occurred, but things are back on track and should proceed fast in the following weeks.

Really sorry for the lack of news here, but Elemento and us did encounter some issues:

To be frank, the factory Elemento first contacted was not able to meet the requirements after the intricate structural upgrade that includes many parts in different materials, so we help Elemento out and moved on to a new source.

And that take quite some time as communication back and forth wasnt smooth

But Elemento and we have things sorted out and things are back on track, I will be responsible for this thread and have updates from time to time, solid or not, to keep you guys in the loop.

Again, sorry for the miscommunication.

Thank you for your support!

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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 08 May 2018, 23:42:42 »
Hi guys, Alex here

In short, I sincerely apologize for lack of updates, some issues occurred, but things are back on track and should proceed fast in the following weeks.

Really sorry for the lack of news here, but Elemento and us did encounter some issues:

To be frank, the factory Elemento first contacted was not able to meet the requirements after the intricate structural upgrade that includes many parts in different materials, so we help Elemento out and moved on to a new source.

And that take quite some time as communication back and forth wasnt smooth

But Elemento and we have things sorted out and things are back on track, I will be responsible for this thread and have updates from time to time, solid or not, to keep you guys in the loop.

Again, sorry for the miscommunication.

Thank you for your support!

Hey Alex, thanks for the update! Have a few questions on this:

Will Elemento have a presence here, on the forums?

What structural changes were made that caused an issue at the factory?

Is there any kind of MOQ, and if so, what percentage are we at towards meeting it?

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« Reply #102 on: Wed, 09 May 2018, 06:29:09 »
I didnt know that there was an MOQ as the GB has ended and a manufacturer has been found...

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« Reply #103 on: Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:26:08 »
I didnt know that there was an MOQ as the GB has ended and a manufacturer has been found...

Good point, I didn't think about that lol.

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« Reply #104 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 00:42:23 »
Hi guys, Alex here

In short, I sincerely apologize for lack of updates, some issues occurred, but things are back on track and should proceed fast in the following weeks.

Really sorry for the lack of news here, but Elemento and us did encounter some issues:

To be frank, the factory Elemento first contacted was not able to meet the requirements after the intricate structural upgrade that includes many parts in different materials, so we help Elemento out and moved on to a new source.

And that take quite some time as communication back and forth wasnt smooth

But Elemento and we have things sorted out and things are back on track, I will be responsible for this thread and have updates from time to time, solid or not, to keep you guys in the loop.

Again, sorry for the miscommunication.

Thank you for your support!

Hey Alex, thanks for the update! Have a few questions on this:

Will Elemento have a presence here, on the forums?

What structural changes were made that caused an issue at the factory?

Is there any kind of MOQ, and if so, what percentage are we at towards meeting it?

Hi Raven,

Yes, I will ask him to have an account here.

The major problem is the battery housing, possible interference with the PCB if not milled perfectly. also, as elemento move on to a rechargeable design, safety becomes a more important thing. NiMH becomes the idea choice for battery, but then worries like people using non-rechargeable batteries occurs. First off, Elemento tried to redesign the contact springs since some rechargeable batteries have their negative exposed to the side and thus some structural changed. And then that was reversed since that really limits the choice of battery and some places might not be able to find those exact batteries. These back and forth costs a lot of time.

And yes, Elemento will be heading to China, again, to check on the manufacturing process.

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« Reply #105 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 00:27:42 »
Hi guys, Alex here

In short, I sincerely apologize for lack of updates, some issues occurred, but things are back on track and should proceed fast in the following weeks.

Really sorry for the lack of news here, but Elemento and us did encounter some issues:

To be frank, the factory Elemento first contacted was not able to meet the requirements after the intricate structural upgrade that includes many parts in different materials, so we help Elemento out and moved on to a new source.

And that take quite some time as communication back and forth wasnt smooth

But Elemento and we have things sorted out and things are back on track, I will be responsible for this thread and have updates from time to time, solid or not, to keep you guys in the loop.

Again, sorry for the miscommunication.

Thank you for your support!

Hey Alex, thanks for the update! Have a few questions on this:

Will Elemento have a presence here, on the forums?

What structural changes were made that caused an issue at the factory?

Is there any kind of MOQ, and if so, what percentage are we at towards meeting it?

Hi Raven,

Yes, I will ask him to have an account here.

The major problem is the battery housing, possible interference with the PCB if not milled perfectly. also, as elemento move on to a rechargeable design, safety becomes a more important thing. NiMH becomes the idea choice for battery, but then worries like people using non-rechargeable batteries occurs. First off, Elemento tried to redesign the contact springs since some rechargeable batteries have their negative exposed to the side and thus some structural changed. And then that was reversed since that really limits the choice of battery and some places might not be able to find those exact batteries. These back and forth costs a lot of time.

And yes, Elemento will be heading to China, again, to check on the manufacturing process.

Awesome, thank you for the response!

If you're accepting input on batteries: while I'd prefer NiMH, it's a perfectly acceptable choice, especially when it comes to not having to deal with LiPO shipping hassle. As far as sizes, my vote goes for either a standard AA size, or an 18650 size. 18650 has good capacity and dimensions, but it would be a good idea to incorporate charging while they're inserted in the board so people don't have to worry about buying a specialty charger.

Either way, looking forward to hearing more as development proceeds :]

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« Reply #106 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 12:57:10 »
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I agree with Raven Panther, a standard AA size battery would work perfectly!

As far as timescales, do know how much of a delay are we looking at?

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« Reply #107 on: Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:25:04 »
I'm also still curious about QMK.  It was mentioned a few times in this forum, but I never saw a confirmation that the board will support it. 

Thanks for the updates! 

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« Reply #108 on: Tue, 22 May 2018, 19:28:51 »
I'm also still curious about QMK.  It was mentioned a few times in this forum, but I never saw a confirmation that the board will support it. 

Thanks for the updates! 

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I agree with Raven Panther, a standard AA size battery would work perfectly!

As far as timescales, do know how much of a delay are we looking at?

Both good questions, wrote my response late at night and wasn't thinking much haha. I'm also interested in more info on these.

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« Reply #109 on: Fri, 25 May 2018, 16:19:01 »
Is it too late to add another Black Walnut weight?
Anyone regret getting the wood and want my brass weight? Trade + price difference.
« Last Edit: Thu, 31 May 2018, 19:06:34 by wowremy »

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« Reply #110 on: Thu, 31 May 2018, 10:23:52 »
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Can we please get some answers to the above questions please. You have been online answering questions in your other GB threads, however we are feeling slightly forgotten here...

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« Reply #111 on: Wed, 06 June 2018, 06:28:06 »
Hi guys, I have just emailed this to Zfrontier asking for an update but also asking for some much needed answers to some of your questions.

« Last Edit: Wed, 06 June 2018, 06:33:58 by the pokemon kid »

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« Reply #112 on: Wed, 06 June 2018, 09:45:00 »
Hi guys, I have just emailed this to Zfrontier asking for an update but also asking for some much needed answers to some of your questions.

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to play devil's advocate perhaps there trying to get answers from Elemento and getting the run around. Are being told they will get answers soon™. I could see that being why Zfrontier is dragging there feet with answers. Cause from what seen Zfrontier is always pretty upfront. Honestly when the group buy was running Elemento set off so many redflag's for me as being sorta shady. This is just my humbled opinion. Given some answers would be better then the radio silence people are getting about the entire thing.   

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« Reply #113 on: Wed, 06 June 2018, 11:24:23 »
Hi guys, I have just emailed this to Zfrontier asking for an update but also asking for some much needed answers to some of your questions.

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to play devil's advocate perhaps there trying to get answers from Elemento and getting the run around. Are being told they will get answers soon™. I could see that being why Zfrontier is dragging there feet with answers. Cause from what seen Zfrontier is always pretty upfront. Honestly when the group buy was running Elemento set off so many redflag's for me as being sorta shady. This is just my humbled opinion. Given some answers would be better then the radio silence people are getting about the entire thing.

Yes, but it was a month ago they came back and said there was issues with the product. It then took 13 days to reply to RavenPanthers question.

Also, the question of Colour samples, Bluetooth questions and QMK support are still outstanding since mid Febuary. Surely they can drag an answer out of Elemento in three and a half months.

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« Reply #114 on: Thu, 07 June 2018, 00:58:20 »
been lurking this friend since he was very interested in it..but after reading the recent issues of lack of communication...i can see why my friend lost interest. hopefully people get their answers soon

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« Reply #115 on: Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:42:33 »
Thanks for supporting us. Apologies for lack of updates. Here they are:

We received some parts and PCB last week, and this is what you are looking at:

197425-0197427-1197429-2197431-3
197433-4197435-5197437-6197439-7

This unit is Cool Gray.

Unfortunately, our board is likely not QMK compatible mostly due to the light effects we want to achive. However, we will have our own Windows-based software for macro and light effects editing. Our PCB do have an onboard flash for memorizing all your settings.
 
The battery life depends significantly on LEDs. With all lights off, 4 AAA should last 1.5 weeks based on medium usage (like 4 hours per day). The Bluetooth module is a 3.0 version, instead of a BLE one, for better compatibility with older devices.

For Bluetooth signal, we have no problem with normal typing scenarios. But signal shielding on the bottom is expected since the bottom case is fully enclosed.

For the timescales, sadly, we will need an extra month or two.

Thanks!

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« Reply #116 on: Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:59:04 »
Thanks for supporting us. Apologies for lack of updates. Here they are:

We received some parts and PCB last week, and this is what you are looking at:

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

This unit is Cool Gray.

Unfortunately, our board is likely not QMK compatible mostly due to the light effects we want to achive. However, we will have our own Windows-based software for macro and light effects editing. Our PCB do have an onboard flash for memorizing all your settings.
 
The battery life depends significantly on LEDs. With all lights off, 4 AAA should last 1.5 weeks based on medium usage (like 4 hours per day). The Bluetooth module is a 3.0 version, instead of a BLE one, for better compatibility with older devices.

For Bluetooth signal, we have no problem with normal typing scenarios. But signal shielding on the bottom is expected since the bottom case is fully enclosed.

For the timescales, sadly, we will need an extra month or two.

Thanks!

Are there any plans to support QMK or port the Windows-based software for macros /etc to macOS?

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« Reply #117 on: Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:05:50 »
Thanks for supporting us. Apologies for lack of updates. Here they are:

We received some parts and PCB last week, and this is what you are looking at:

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

This unit is Cool Gray.

Unfortunately, our board is likely not QMK compatible mostly due to the light effects we want to achive. However, we will have our own Windows-based software for macro and light effects editing. Our PCB do have an onboard flash for memorizing all your settings.
 
The battery life depends significantly on LEDs. With all lights off, 4 AAA should last 1.5 weeks based on medium usage (like 4 hours per day). The Bluetooth module is a 3.0 version, instead of a BLE one, for better compatibility with older devices.

For Bluetooth signal, we have no problem with normal typing scenarios. But signal shielding on the bottom is expected since the bottom case is fully enclosed.

For the timescales, sadly, we will need an extra month or two.

Thanks!

Can you talk more about the lighting effects you are trying to incorporate?  Would things like changing the lights based on caps/num lock be possible, or is it more of a color-cycling thing?

Also, I really appreciate the update!  Thanks! 

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« Reply #118 on: Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:22:17 »
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Hi Elemento, really appreciate the update and you joining Geekhack. Has alleviated some of the stress I have had over this GB!

Any chance of getting a shot of the raw PCB on its own? Also can we get a shot of the SMD RGB's in action?

Is there an ETA on the other colours? Interested to see how they have come out.





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« Reply #119 on: Sat, 09 June 2018, 08:27:11 »
Thanks for supporting us. Apologies for lack of updates. Here they are:...

Looking great so far!

Will you at least be publishing the source code under a free software or at least open source license?

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« Reply #120 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 07:37:08 »
Thanks for supporting us. Apologies for lack of updates. Here they are:

We received some parts and PCB last week, and this is what you are looking at:

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

This unit is Cool Gray.

Unfortunately, our board is likely not QMK compatible mostly due to the light effects we want to achive. However, we will have our own Windows-based software for macro and light effects editing. Our PCB do have an onboard flash for memorizing all your settings.
 
The battery life depends significantly on LEDs. With all lights off, 4 AAA should last 1.5 weeks based on medium usage (like 4 hours per day). The Bluetooth module is a 3.0 version, instead of a BLE one, for better compatibility with older devices.

For Bluetooth signal, we have no problem with normal typing scenarios. But signal shielding on the bottom is expected since the bottom case is fully enclosed.

For the timescales, sadly, we will need an extra month or two.

Thanks!

Nice, finally found this GB thread  :))
sent a mail to zF, but that can be ignored now.

shipping stage will be around September then I guess?

also, any colour samples of the tactical blue?

really looking forward to this board :)

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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 08:41:25 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

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« Reply #122 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 19:20:59 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

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« Reply #123 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 19:22:40 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

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« Reply #124 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 20:45:02 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

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« Reply #125 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:52:23 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.


the software might work with Wine..?

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« Reply #126 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:58:42 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

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« Reply #127 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:24:49 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.

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« Reply #128 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:36:39 »
Board looks great and I'm loving the under glow! I like that bicolor pic on the top right.

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« Reply #129 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 04:41:07 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
mac who

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« Reply #130 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 04:56:27 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
mac who

dunno... sounds like nonsense ;)

but you could give it a spin with Wine, maybe that'll work... (or something like it)

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« Reply #131 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:09:47 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
mac who

dunno... sounds like nonsense ;)

but you could give it a spin with Wine, maybe that'll work... (or something like it)

Im not clued up on Mac stuff but to me it just sounds like you have a drinking problem... :P

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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:55:01 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.
You can VM windows.
I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.
Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.
Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.
can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
mac who
dunno...sounds like nonsense ;)
but you could give it a spin with Wine, maybe that'll work... (or something like it)
Im not clued up on Mac stuff but to me it just sounds like you have a drinking problem... :p

Wine is for linux, I don't eat at Mac

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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 21:07:34 »
No qmk tmk compatibility isn't good. Why can't you improve the existing software, or pay the developer?
I don't have windows.

You can VM windows.

I will be fair, using a Windows VM to code a keyboard on a Mac or Linux isn't ideal.

Oh, I won't argue that. But he's acting like he can't do it and won't ever be able to do it.

Updating the firmware in a VM isn't ideal. I had some troubles with the pok3r. Go figure what will happen with a keyboard made in 100 pieces, with a custom firmware, that will not be sold or updated anymore after this GB.

can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.

I need to adopt this mindset, this is a beautiful way to live life. Anything that's extra is always a pleasant surprise! :]

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« Reply #134 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 01:47:47 »
can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
I need to adopt this mindset, this is a beautiful way to live life. Anything that's extra is always a pleasant surprise! :]

don't we all first need to get a life?  :p

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Re: [GB] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. Fr87 GB ended.
« Reply #135 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 09:22:47 »
can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
I need to adopt this mindset, this is a beautiful way to live life. Anything that's extra is always a pleasant surprise! :]

don't we all first need to get a life?  :p

keyboards or death
QFR | MJ2 TKL | Realforce 87U | G81-3000 "Schumiboard" | Varmilo Bulgogiboard (Keycon 104) | KBD75 | MIRA (Clearsuns) | Weaven (MOD-M) | TGR Alice (soon!) | A secret board

has puddsy gotten an award for person most involved with things hes not involved in at all, yet?

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Re: [GB] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. Fr87 GB ended.
« Reply #136 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 17:44:30 »
can I just ask why you bought into the keyboard if you knew going in there was a chance that it might not be Mac friendly? I am just kinda curious cause I always go into things thinking what I see is what I get. Given if there is some kinda nifty addon/upgrade after the fact then great. Otherwise I just assume things are the way they are.
I need to adopt this mindset, this is a beautiful way to live life. Anything that's extra is always a pleasant surprise! :]

don't we all first need to get a life?  :p

I live life through receiving packages in the mail!