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[GB] OG Coil Cables - Ended, Extras Available
« on: Wed, 04 April 2018, 23:56:11 »
The GB is "officially" over and extras are available at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSce4AvDV8vMMtP6gu7MnzMT9uFK3zQ3bKHsuwhy9p7YMxdIEg/viewform



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Update 7/06/18
Cables are on hand and I'm preparing for production.

Update 6/24/18
Cables are currently processing through Customs according to the tracking.

Update 5/24/18
Payment has been submitted to the manu, estimated ship date of 12 days after payment clears.

Update 5/21/18
Got in touch with the manu this morning to get a quote on the final quantities before submitting the order. Looking to have the order submitted by the end of the week.

Update 05/04/18
Invoices are sent out after a bit of a mixup. If you don't have an invoice, check for an email from me about fixing your order before I could invoice it.

Update 04/19/18
Alright fellow cable enthusiasts, I figured it's time for an update on the cable situation since it's near the "initial" end date. As of right now, these are the numbers:

Black - 106/100
Beige - 60/100
Magenta - 17/100

Assuming minimal dropouts and that everyone has filled out the form correctly, black has met MOQ, beige is at 60% with a chance to hit, magenta is at 17% with little chance to hit MOQ. I'll go ahead and extend the buy period another week since I do think we can get enough beige orders to get it to the tipping point. Additionally, I'll start doing math on where the orders are coming from and looking at proxy options since we have a substantial number of orders currently.

Update 04/12/18
Current MOQs
Black - 81/100
Beige - 45/100
Magenta - 14/100

GB goes until 4/20 and may be extended at that time.

Order at https://donutcables.com/og-coil-cables/
Link for mobile issues https://goo.gl/forms/Usjm91jEIHLvKmRk1

This is the GB thread for OG Coil Cables

IC thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94641.0

Most of the relevant information is in the form but I'll copy some of it over here:
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This is the order form for OG Coil Cables

What are OG Coil Cables? These cables aim to mimic the look and feel of the coiled cables on vintage keyboards while being able to be used on modern boards. Thick wire combined with smooth factory coils give an aesthetic like no other.

There will be three colors of cables available utilizing the RAL color codes 4010(magenta) 7044(beige) and 9005(black), which will all be shown below. The colors can also be seen at https://www.ralcolorchart.com/
The available terminations for these cables include USB A, USB B, USB Mini, USB Micro, USB C, unterminated, and others available on request.
All colors of heatshrink available on my normal cables will be available for these cables.
The exact dimensions of the cables can be seen in the diagram lower down.
Please submit the form once for each cable you want, my scraper can only deal with single item submissions.

Pricing is $21 for terminated cables, $14 for unterminated(both ends) cables. Odd or custom terminations may increase the price, this will be discussed before invoicing.
Shipping is via USPS First Class, upgraded to Priority for large/heavy orders.
Shipping will be calculated based on your given address when invoices are sent.
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Cable Sample


Cable Dimensions

Cable Colors:
Magenta - https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-4010-telemagenta
Beige - https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-7044-silk-grey
Black - https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-9011-graphite-black

I'm expected to receive the bare cables within two weeks of placing the group order. Production is expected to be 2-4weeks following receiving the cables depending on order numbers.

Let me know if I missed anything.
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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 04:09:01 »
Approved :)

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 06:20:12 »
In for at least one black and one beige, need to measure my F107 before I can commit to a third, it needs a long run on the inside but 500mm should be plenty.
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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 06:26:15 »
In for a black and beige
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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 07:10:21 »
Is TRRS an option?

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:03:42 »
How long do you plan to run the GB for?


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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:26:53 »
If we order multiple cables, will they be invoiced together?

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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:33:30 »
If we order multiple cables, will they be invoiced together?

Yes, to accurately scrape the order sheet there needs to be only 1 set of cable options per submission, but multiple submissions from the same email will be added together for invoicing.

How long do you plan to run the GB for?

Not entirely sure, I figured I'd go 2 weeks and see how the numbers are doing then go from there.

Is TRRS an option?

TRRS could be ordered if you choose the "Other" choice.

Approved :)

Thanks for the quick approval :3

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 11:47:06 »
If we order a cable terminated in USB A at one end and USB C at the other, will the cable have the appropriate 56k ohm resistor to follow the usb type c spec?

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 11:54:06 »
I see the limits in the RAL for the magenta, but I'm wondering why the black is 9011 Graphite Black instead of 9005 Jet Black. Do you have pics of samples for both? I can see 9011 looking like MaxKey Ninja which is a little too on the grey side.

https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-9011-graphite-black
vs
https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-9005-jet-black

Sorry if this was already covered in the [IC] - I just noticed the actual spec.

I'm in for both pink and black once I get to the forms.
« Last Edit: Thu, 05 April 2018, 11:55:53 by emenelopee »

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 12:17:58 »
sorry for being dumb. but what's terminated, unterminated?

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:17:09 »
I’m tight on cash right now, when is the deadline for joining this?

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:41:18 »
If we order a cable terminated in USB A at one end and USB C at the other, will the cable have the appropriate 56k ohm resistor to follow the usb type c spec?

The C connectors I use are only 2.0 capable, meaning that they have those resistors by default.

I see the limits in the RAL for the magenta, but I'm wondering why the black is 9011 Graphite Black instead of 9005 Jet Black. Do you have pics of samples for both? I can see 9011 looking like MaxKey Ninja which is a little too on the grey side.

https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-9011-graphite-black
vs
https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-9005-jet-black

Sorry if this was already covered in the [IC] - I just noticed the actual spec.

I'm in for both pink and black once I get to the forms.

I went with 9011 cause I thought it might look better in the matte finish, but comparing them again it may be best to switch to 9005.

sorry for being dumb. but what's terminated, unterminated?

Terminated is having any of the connector choices present there or using a custom one, unterminated means you'll receive the cable with no connectors on it. Some people wanted this in order to add their own connectors or use it with a fixed cable board.

I’m tight on cash right now, when is the deadline for joining this?

No real hard deadline, in two weeks I'll evaluate where the numbers are and decide then whether or not to keep it going longer, up to a max of four weeks.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:52:02 »

sorry for being dumb. but what's terminated, unterminated?

Terminated is having any of the connector choices present there or using a custom one, unterminated means you'll receive the cable with no connectors on it. Some people wanted this in order to add their own connectors or use it with a fixed cable board.

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Thank you for your reply. Now I 100% understood.
I actually have one more dumb question... Do you know if I can fit the unterminated one into Realforce 87u?

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:06:09 »
I wonder on the ageing - would the matte finish go glossy over time, or would a glossy finish go matte?

Personally I prefer the idea of glossy black coil cables but I'm cool with either.

I'll end the [IC]-esque digressions, on with the [GB].
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:20:53 »
I'll be placing my order when I get home.
I do wish there was a little more length on the straight side that plugs into the keyboard.
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:22:19 »
I would like to reiterate, if you are ordering more than 1 cable, please submit the form for each cable. It's much easier to scrape the form results for MOQ numbers and overall order data when each submission is for a single cable. All orders to the same PayPal will be consolidated into a single invoice.

Quote from: donjoan666 link=topic=95028.msg2588337#date=1522948678


Thank you for your reply. Now I 100% understood.
I actually have one more dumb question... Do you know if I can fit the unterminated one into Realforce 87u?


I'm not sure since I've not dealt with one before, you'd have to find someone to measure the opening on one to see.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 14:46:17 »
I would like to reiterate, if you are ordering more than 1 cable, please submit the form for each cable. It's much easier to scrape the form results for MOQ numbers and overall order data when each submission is for a single cable. All orders to the same PayPal will be consolidated into a single invoice.

Quote from: donjoan666 link=topic=95028.msg2588337#date=1522948678


Thank you for your reply. Now I 100% understood.
I actually have one more dumb question... Do you know if I can fit the unterminated one into Realforce 87u?


I'm not sure since I've not dealt with one before, you'd have to find someone to measure the opening on one to see.

I measured the stock Realforce cable on my 87UB55 with calipers to be 4.75 mm in diameter. A 6.5mm cable will fit through the opening in the plastic housing but without modification, its not going to fit through the cable routing channels.
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 15:39:22 »
90% sure I'll order a black and a beige dude, just thinking over connection options and heatshrink as I want these to match up with some planned builds.
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 19:00:46 »
Submitted one for black

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 19:00:58 »
I would like to reiterate, if you are ordering more than 1 cable, please submit the form for each cable. It's much easier to scrape the form results for MOQ numbers and overall order data when each submission is for a single cable. All orders to the same PayPal will be consolidated into a single invoice.

Quote from: donjoan666 link=topic=95028.msg2588337#date=1522948678


Thank you for your reply. Now I 100% understood.
I actually have one more dumb question... Do you know if I can fit the unterminated one into Realforce 87u?


I'm not sure since I've not dealt with one before, you'd have to find someone to measure the opening on one to see.

Got it. Thank you.

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 19:03:19 »
I would like to reiterate, if you are ordering more than 1 cable, please submit the form for each cable. It's much easier to scrape the form results for MOQ numbers and overall order data when each submission is for a single cable. All orders to the same PayPal will be consolidated into a single invoice.

Quote from: donjoan666 link=topic=95028.msg2588337#date=1522948678


Thank you for your reply. Now I 100% understood.
I actually have one more dumb question... Do you know if I can fit the unterminated one into Realforce 87u?


I'm not sure since I've not dealt with one before, you'd have to find someone to measure the opening on one to see.

I measured the stock Realforce cable on my 87UB55 with calipers to be 4.75 mm in diameter. A 6.5mm cable will fit through the opening in the plastic housing but without modification, its not going to fit through the cable routing channels.

Thanks so much sir! I guess 6.5mm won't harm aesthetically once it goes inside the housing.

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 20:33:56 »
So, I'mma try to keep a live track of MOQ on this thread maybe at least once a day.

Current MOQs:
 - Black - 24/100
 - Beige - 14/100
 - Magenta - 4/100

Looking pretty good currently, those are the numbers based solely on submissions, 1/4 of the way on black, 1/7 of the way on beige, a solid start for magenta seeing as it's the "why not" color. There are a couple people that have stated in the comment box that they'd like more(+5 black, +1 beige) but those will need to be properly submitted to be counted for MOQ tracking and invoicing.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 05 April 2018, 23:01:09 »
Already ordered black, just chiming in to note that I prefer the matte black to glossy, please don't change it.
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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 01:22:00 »
In for three.  As a long time Model M user and recent 65% user, it'll be nice to have the cable on my 65% stop looking wrong on my desk.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 01:37:07 »
Is MOQ fixed? I'm thinking of posting at kbdlab.com to gather more people.
Are you okay with international shipping?
I'm also concerned if the shipping cost will increase a lot.
Do you know how much the cost will be approximately?...
Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 02:49:34 »
Orders placed  :thumb:
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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 05:57:18 »
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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 07:44:33 »
Would love to join but shipping will probably kill it for me  :-\

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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 08:05:57 »
Entered for a beige one :cool:
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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 09:35:24 »
Would love to join but shipping will probably kill it for me  :-\

Would like to know about international shipping too, specifically to Europe in my case.

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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:21:39 »
In for one black and one magenta - if magenta doesn't make it make that two black.

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:57:32 »
Is MOQ fixed? I'm thinking of posting at kbdlab.com to gather more people.
Are you okay with international shipping?
I'm also concerned if the shipping cost will increase a lot.
Do you know how much the cost will be approximately?...
Thanks in advance.

MOQ isn't fixed, we'd actually benefit from going over it. I am ok with shipping internationally as long as people are understanding of the prices. According to the manu each of these cables weighs 240g or 8.5oz, so shipping to a couple different locations including 2.5oz packaging weight is listed below as a reference:
Canada - ~$16
Australia - ~$23
Germany - ~$23
Hong Kong - ~$23
Croatia - ~$23
France - ~$23
South Korea - ~$23

This is all for single cables and approximated due to minor variations of like $.20 between locations, and is unfortunately higher than I was initially anticipating. Proxying could potentially work if there's enough orders from areas to justify the bulk shipments from me to the proxy and their proxying costs. I'll have to look into that further.

Would love to join but shipping will probably kill it for me  :-\

Would like to know about international shipping too, specifically to Europe in my case.

Yeah, shipping is a bit unfortunate due to the bulk of the cables.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:10:23 »
Any estimate on US shipping? Maybe it's another thing already mentioned that I've missed.

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 14:10:20 »
Any estimate on US shipping? Maybe it's another thing already mentioned that I've missed.

Looks like the highest CONUS shipping for a single cable should be about $5 from me to California. More than one will require a step up to priority due to the weight, but I may be able to get by with small flat rate for those.

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 18:11:36 »
Pink and black ftw
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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 21:19:16 »
Can I get a 90° mini on one end?

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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 00:31:54 »
Nightly update on the MOQs:

Black - 47/100
Beige - 25/100
Magenta - 6/100

Looking really good for black/beige after only 2 days, magenta is hanging on there.

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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 01:04:36 »
Go pink go-go-go!

I guess we are only six people with any light left in our cold dead hearts. I weep for your souls for the glory is among us and you do not see.

With unterminated ends, can you include a termination for me to solder myself, or are they too specialized? I see now why detachable cables are prevalent--fixed cables are a pain.

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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 12:20:26 »
Go pink go-go-go!

I guess we are only six people with any light left in our cold dead hearts. I weep for your souls for the glory is among us and you do not see.

With unterminated ends, can you include a termination for me to solder myself, or are they too specialized? I see now why detachable cables are prevalent--fixed cables are a pain.

Yeah, just send me a message sometime with your submission email and what connector(s) you want.

Can I get a 90° mini on one end?

You can, but be aware that the only 90° ends are all plastic afaik.

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 12:52:04 »
MOQ isn't fixed, we'd actually benefit from going over it. I am ok with shipping internationally as long as people are understanding of the prices. According to the manu each of these cables weighs 240g or 8.5oz, so shipping to a couple different locations including 2.5oz packaging weight is listed below as a reference:
Canada - ~$16
Australia - ~$23
Germany - ~$23
Hong Kong - ~$23
Croatia - ~$23
France - ~$23
South Korea - ~$23

This is all for single cables and approximated due to minor variations of like $.20 between locations, and is unfortunately higher than I was initially anticipating. Proxying could potentially work if there's enough orders from areas to justify the bulk shipments from me to the proxy and their proxying costs. I'll have to look into that further.

 :'(

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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 18:50:21 »
In for a couple black and beige!
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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:10:21 »
Signed up for black and beige.
Still not 100% sure if the non-terminated would be okay for RF (I'm noob), but I will try.
Also posted on kbdlab  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:14:50 »
Daily update

Black - 53/100
Beige - 29/100
Magenta - 9/100

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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:36:01 »
Do these cables have twisted pair for data lines? Are they shielded?
   

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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 00:04:12 »
Do these cables have twisted pair for data lines? Are they shielded?

Yes, shielding with twisting in the data pair, the power pair may also be twisted, I didn't ask about that though.

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Re: [GB] OG Coil Cables
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 18:38:32 »
What happens if we don't meet moq?

In for a pink and black one (you monochromes have hearts as black as the cable you're buying :p)
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