SCSI and SATA simultaneous?

[EverythingIBM]

PCIe was designed to be backwards / forwards compatible. PCIe 1.x devices should work in PCIe 2.x motherboards and vice versa. PCIe 2.0 doubled the signaling rate from the 1.x generation, and thus has twice the bandwidth, but can fall back to the 1.x rate if need be. Version 2.1 added some more features in, but nothing that should break the previous statement about compatibility. Just the same, I have heard of some PCIe 1.0 mobos not liking 2.0/2.1 cards. Supposedly some bios issues or some such.

And as for the age bit, the 5570 is a relatively new card (February) based on 40nm fabrication. It's not a high end card, but it is quite good for the money. I'm not sure what you plan on using it for though. If it's just for desktop work, then you could go even lower as the 5570 is overkill for just that.

No, I need it to be as powerful as I can get it. I do a lot of graphics design (anything LESS than the quadro fx 3400 will be grinding it; with that said, it is a DECENT card, just big and hot).
The BIOS the computer is running is more sophistocated than most I've seen, and it can always be flashed to the newest version IBM released (of course that can be dangerous, I'd only do it if necessary). I have the 2005 version I believe, there is a 2006 one, and maybe more since I last checked.

[ch_123]

That's the argument apple used for a long time during their PowerPC years "we have a faster rated clock speed, so OBVIOUSLY it's faster!".
You can have the fastest clock speed you want, but there are other factors such as FSB, L2 cache, and whatnot.

Ehmm... It's actually completely the other way around... The dual-core G5s only clocked up to 2GHz.

My prescott is 64-bit, whereas my cheapo lenovo-branded-IBM T60p is only 32 bit. Thanks crapovo for using cheaper components!

That's because the initial generation of Intel's dual core laptop CPUs was 32-bit only. How is that Lenovo's fault?

[EverythingIBM]

Ehmm... It's actually completely the other way around... The dual-core G5s only clocked up to 2GHz.

That's because the initial generation of Intel's dual core laptop CPUs was 32-bit only. How is that Lenovo's fault?

No, intel and apple were both gloating over MEGAHERTZ whilst AMD realized clock rate was only ONE factor of performance.

Anything bad that happens is lenovo's fault.

[InSanCen]

stupid reply.

I give up...

[JBert]

Wow, the Radeon 5570 takes 45 watts, and the Quadro FX 3400 around 350 watts!!! No wonder why it runs so hot (and noisy too).
EDIT: that's wrong, but, no other stupid sites would tell me the exact power consumption of the FX 3400.
EDIT: it's 101 watts, thanks wikipedia.

That's one power hungry sucker. I think I may get a Radeon 5570; I've never been a big Nvidia fan anyways. Plus I could free up a lot of power for other things. Not to mention, the quadro fx 3400 is so long.

The Radeon 5570 doesn't seem too expensive, and it's an older card too.

Look, I hate the power consumption, heat and noise nvidia cards produce as much as the next guy, yet I still prefer them for their drivers.
As far as I know, they are still the only ones with a performant/complete OpenGL implementation and games for Linux support.

Also, Quadro's are optimized for graphical design. Hardware has progressed a lot in those 5 years since your card was released, but keep in mind that the consumer ATIs are optimized for gaming where you want a high FPS instead of a reliable display of all parts in your design.

[EverythingIBM]

Look, I hate the power consumption, heat and noise nvidia cards produce as much as the next guy, yet I still prefer them for their drivers.
As far as I know, they are still the only ones with a performant/complete OpenGL implementation and games for Linux support.

Also, Quadro's are optimized for graphical design. Hardware has progressed a lot in those 5 years since your card was released, but keep in mind that the consumer ATIs are optimized for gaming where you want a high FPS instead of a reliable display of all parts in your design.

The ATI fireGL in my thinkpad runs great for 3D graphics. Didn't IBM used to own the fireGL cards?

I think a new ATI card will beat the quadro fx in all regions.

EDIT: My two favourite graphics card brands are actually Matrox and 3dfx: but ATI is more economic.