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[IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard (Cancelled)
« on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 18:20:22 »
Cancelled due to the difficulty of running a group buy.


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Hi there,

I want a keyboard with a numpad on the left to use as a macro broad. Also, split spacebars / dual Fn Minila like layout with navigation keys map to layers on the left.

So I designed a keyboard with numpad on the left, 112 keys, multi-layout, split spacebars supports.

Let me introduce Port.

Design

I decided to keep the keyboard design very simple and minimal (or others call it plain).
4 degree
146 x 21 x 412.7mm

203013-0

203015-1

203017-2

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203021-4

203023-5

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PCB
QMK, Multi-layouts, ISO support
TBC: USB-C / Mini USB

203055-7

Let me know what you think, any input would be appreciated, but keep in mind this is my very first attempt at designing keyboard. (go easy on me :p)

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 18:50:45 »
Gonna watch this thread +1. I have a 65% southpaw using for work. Would like to upgrade to this in the future.

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 21:17:37 »
I would love to see this happen. A few things you may consider:

- A steeper slope. 4 degrees seems a bit too flat.

- Reverse numpad support

- Spicing things up a little in terms of design; but again, if this keeps cost down then be it. Based on the render, option for a translucent bottom would be nice.

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 21:57:32 »
All that split spacebar support is gonna end up in a hell of a swiss-cheese PCB... :(

I agree -- Reverse Numpad support and a steeper incline (personally 6-8 degrees) would be nice.
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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 22:04:54 »
Very nice design! I love the simplicity of it all.

Also, 4 degree angle suits me fine :) ... i don't need carpal tunnel!

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 22:12:02 »
LOVE IT! Perfect layout for me, and the design is a no BS no gimmick one. Although you may want to consider a spaced arrow key and thicc plate like 3mm. Would definitely join if the price are sub 250USD

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 22:33:58 »
I'm very interested.
I like the convenience of a numpad on the left.

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 07:09:41 »
Yeah, +1 for being able to mirror the numpad would be great.
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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 07:39:09 »
Looks good, no more than 6 degrees though.
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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:08:08 »
I like it! Sort of like a compromise between the Southpaw 65+ and fullsize. Personally I'm partial to having a dedicated F-row and the bit of separation between the numpad and the main part of the board, so I'd almost certainly be in if this goes to GB :)

I'd also like a mirrored numpad option, and the front bezel looks a bit too tall to me (might just be because of the angle?). It also looks like you only put in a space for one indicator light; and TBH I don't really like the position of it. Stepped capslock support would also be nice.
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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:12:25 »
I'd rather have a board that supports the more common WKL/7u spacebar layouts than one that supports so many different split space options

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 10:19:51 »
@Laughmaster -- Looks to me like a stepped CapsLock is indicated, that key is in the key map, off to the right.
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 12:55:30 »
@Laughmaster -- Looks to me like a stepped CapsLock is indicated, that key is in the key map, off to the right.
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Ahh, that it is. I was looking for it below, thanks for pointing that out!

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 16:41:13 »
Thanks for the kind words and feedback! I'm so happy to find out there're people like this kind of layout.

PCB layout option is updated to include a mirrored numpad. I'm thinking to remove some split spacebar options, namely 2.25|2.75|1.25 (not 2.25|1.25|2.75) and maybe dual 3.0 option. Please let me know when layout you want the least.

I will consider to increase incline from 4 degrees to 6 degrees.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 19:27:01 »
Yep, the 2.25|2.75|1.25 and the dual 3.0 option would be my least favorites, although I may not join the buy.
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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 20:34:13 »
Thanks for the kind words and feedback! I'm so happy to find out there're people like this kind of layout.

PCB layout option is updated to include a mirrored numpad. I'm thinking to remove some split spacebar options, namely 2.25|2.75|1.25 (not 2.25|1.25|2.75) and maybe dual 3.0 option. Please let me know when layout you want the least.

I will consider to increase incline from 4 degrees to 6 degrees.

I imagine this could be a dream board for a lefty like myself.

Split space bars seem trendy these days, but IMO they are aesthetically unpleasing, and there's no need for them on a more than 60% layout.


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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 23:08:36 »
I'd be in for this, perfect for what I do. Anything to keep costs down while retaining what's going on now would be greatly appreciated. I like the idea of split and/or small spacebars, but I probably would go with a 6.25 for this build. The split 3u is tempting though. Definitely would go for the mirrored numpad. I might prefer something closer to 6° if given the option. Really into the layout and the cleanliness for the overall design… it's a strength here. In a perfect world, a white case option would be the cherry on top for me, but I know that can add a bit to cost. Excellent first pass, if you hadn't said so, I'd never have known. Please make this happen.

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 00:40:28 »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's close to impossible to find 3u keys.

My Mistel has the same problem.

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 07:10:48 »
Yeah, ditto on the 3u keys. As I understand, they're extremely uncommon, so I think you'd be safe nixing that option (might also help make the PCB design a bit more simple). I'm definitely +1 for split spacebar options.
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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 09:31:51 »
3u are starting to pop up in newer EnjoyPBT sets.

Signature Plastics also has them in SA profile. I say keep 'em.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 09:46:14 »
I'd likely jump in on this as well. That bit of extra space to the right of the number pad would solve my only gripe with the Southpaw 65.

No need for split space here, and I'm cool with the flatter 4-degree slope.

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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 13:18:20 »
3u is not common for sure, but as some of you said - it starts getting popular, most of the SP SA group buy include 3u spacebar in their spacebar kit now. DSA and ePTB supports 3u as well. I wish GMK offer 3u, many nice sets I'd love to use but can't, that's the only reason I opted for 2.75u in the dual fn layout.

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 13:30:13 »
I'd likely jump in on this as well. That bit of extra space to the right of the number pad would solve my only gripe with the Southpaw 65.

No need for split space here, and I'm cool with the flatter 4-degree slope.

So glad to know someone is valuing the space(s)!
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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 15:55:37 »
Minila bottom row with a grid numpad would be the dream layout for me. I'd also prefer the 4 degree over the 6 degree.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 16:48:26 »
Very nice project !

I'm fine with a 4-degrees slope.

I'd likely jump in on this as well. That bit of extra space to the right of the number pad would solve my only gripe with the Southpaw 65.

No need for split space here, and I'm cool with the flatter 4-degree slope.

So glad to know someone is valuing the space(s)!

Speaking of space, IMHO your project'd be really terrific with a little bit of space between the arrows and the rest of the board, like this one (or this one).

For me, a board like the E7 with a numpad on the left = instabuy.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 18:45:04 »
a little bit of space between the arrows and the rest of the board

Love the simplicity of the overall design and hopefully that keeps the price down. Would also agree that a little space to separate the arrow keys is always helpful.  Definitely interested.

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 19:56:14 »
a little bit of space between the arrows and the rest of the board

Love the simplicity of the overall design and hopefully that keeps the price down. Would also agree that a little space to separate the arrow keys is always helpful.  Definitely interested.


Agree with many of these comments. All of the margin zones (f-row—both vertical and horizontal gaps—and numpad column) are consistent and well-placed, which is a big part of the design success. I'm also down with 4° if that's where it pans out.

There is definitely an uptick in the 3u presence over here in the west. I'm also hesitant to commit, but between SP and other eastern keycaps vendors, as others have mentioned, it's becoming less of an exotic option. The double 3u keeps it real though… but hey… we all know this hobby isn't for the faint of heart.

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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 02:21:27 »
Love it.  Love the ISO support too, and the slight gap between the num row and F keys. Any idea on timelines?

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 09 September 2018, 21:43:03 »
I love it. I skipped on the Southpaw mostly due to its case design. Here we have a very good-looking minimalist case. Also pleased to see the various layouts for the numpad.

Overall this checks a lot of boxes for me. Looking forward to more.

Any pricing though?

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 09:04:04 »
i missed the last southpaw so would love to get in on this. hoping for standard price point


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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 21 September 2018, 23:32:54 »
Interested!

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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 22 September 2018, 21:20:09 »
How tall is the case at the front? Seems rather tall. I am worried that a tall front + low angle will make this uncomfortable to type on.
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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 23 September 2018, 01:47:21 »
I'm definitely interested. Any rough ideas on pricing/timeline yet?

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 08:07:09 »
If I hadn't gone down the ortholinear rabbithole, I'd definitely want one of those! Great idea!

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 00:05:08 »
Thanks for the kind words and feedback! I'm so happy to find out there're people like this kind of layout.

PCB layout option is updated to include a mirrored numpad. I'm thinking to remove some split spacebar options, namely 2.25|2.75|1.25 (not 2.25|1.25|2.75) and maybe dual 3.0 option. Please let me know when layout you want the least.

I will consider to increase incline from 4 degrees to 6 degrees.

I am in favor of adding a bit more incline as the front is quite tall.

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 07:02:41 »
Neat design. I would like a 6° slope and spaced arrow keys.
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 07:42:38 »
I really, really like this. In fact, I was just daydreaming about my ideal layout and it looked like this.

I'd be in favor of more standard bottom rows as I like a 7u space, but that would likely mess up your vision.
If you remove 3u spacebars, would 1.5 | 1 | 1.5 |     6     | 1.5 | 1.5 still work?


hoping for standard price point - if so, I'm IN.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 10:05:48 »
If this really happens and the price is reasoable (<$400). I will definitely be in.

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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 11:42:12 »
I will watch this project with great interest

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:02:16 »
Interested

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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:09:40 »
Really like this layout

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 18:10:00 »
hmmm... been waiting for this...
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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 05:08:53 »
been looking for something like this , very interested in the product

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 15:21:28 »
Are you willing to support a 7u space bar?

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 15:58:00 »
Loved my extended Southpaw, and just love the simple aesthetics on this one.
Anywhere from 4 to 8 degrees is fine for me, so color me interested.

What colors are going to be offered?

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 22:49:23 »
Are you willing to support a 7u space bar?
I second the 7u, Nice design!

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 01:31:55 »
Would be in favor of a 0.25u blocker next to arrows. Without a gap it can be easy to press the wrong key.

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 03:45:27 »
Definitely interested in this; I missed the Southpaw extended, and actually prefer this as it has a function row.  Southpaw is something I've wanted to try for ages as a way to move my mousing closer to center without losing too much layout. 

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 21:38:46 »
Made an account to say that I'm definitely in, as long as the price isn't too excessive. This layout is is pretty close to endgame for me.

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Re: [IC] Port - 75% + Left Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 23:19:40 »
Basically a southpaw extended with a F-row. Looks great!  :thumb: