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Offline RaySasQuach

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[GB] GMK Shoko Shipping Soon
« on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 00:15:25 »
Well I'm gonna keep it short: GMK Shoko has started and you can grab it at Kono right now (proxies will go live sooner or later) and the group buy will end at December 17, 2018 and the estimate on when they arrive at the warehouse will be June 2019 (at least for Kono). I will also keep you updated when color samples comes in... and pray that the samples are spot on with the colors and that there will be no delays.

Also thanks everyone who is joining this and the support, as much as I was kinda in the dark a lot of that time, I hope you stay supportive and hopefully we can hit MOQ (which is 250 for the base kit btw and 150 for the add-ons)!

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Kono (NA): https://kono.store/products/gmk-shoko?variant=12331061313636
ZFrontier (Asia): https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/gmk-shoko
MyKeyboard (EU): https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-shoko-base-kit_817/
Daily Clack (Oceania): https://dailyclack.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-shoko

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 08:23:26 »
Approved!

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 08:27:41 »
Looks nice :) glwb

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 11:20:39 »
v nice set

v cute

would go very nice with blue-gray keyboards
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:40:03 »
Stoked to see the GB go live. Do you happen to have an ETA on the first round of samples?

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:41:44 »
Happy that this is going live. Are the alpha's still 656 C? I know you mentioned that the renders with the lighter alphas (look white to my eyes) seem to be more accurate, so I wanted to double check that the light grey pantone is still the intended color. Thanks!

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 17:55:26 »
Happy that this is going live. Are the alpha's still 656 C? I know you mentioned that the renders with the lighter alphas (look white to my eyes) seem to be more accurate, so I wanted to double check that the light grey pantone is still the intended color. Thanks!
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I think in the sample approval phase the color could be adjusted if need be as most most people seem to like a cool-near-white alpha color. GMK sometimes does stuff a little dark on prototypes from what I've seen, but this can be addressed if you work with them.
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:02:42 »
Fingers crossed the colors will be justified. After seeing the trainwreck with GMK Necro, I'm skeptical about any set with custom light blue-ish color...
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:39:01 »
So Kono got back to me on the status of the proxies and I feel like I need to address it here, but it will be a bit delayed since there was a pricing error on GMK's part for the price quote of the set. Good news is that the price will not be higher from what I am told, I will try to keep you people updated on Monday PST (though no guarantees about that one either). Sorry for the delay and hope to keep good faith.

Stoked to see the GB go live. Do you happen to have an ETA on the first round of samples?
Not yet unfortunately, though I will keep updated on that.

Happy that this is going live. Are the alpha's still 656 C? I know you mentioned that the renders with the lighter alphas (look white to my eyes) seem to be more accurate, so I wanted to double check that the light grey pantone is still the intended color. Thanks!

Really subtle light blue-gray color will be the goal and yes it still will be 656 C, I would probably be fine with a bit lighter though than the actual Pantone chip.

Fingers crossed the colors will be justified. After seeing the trainwreck with GMK Necro, I'm skeptical about any set with custom light blue-ish color...

Understandable, but I do have a Pantone sheet with all three colors, but I also am planning to invest in the Pantone chips since paper!=plastic, color checker, and neutral white lighting if I can to hopefully color check the samples as best as possible. I understand the skepticism though and I don't blame you for it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 17 November 2018, 00:01:18 »
Understandable, but I do have a Pantone sheet with all three colors, but I also am planning to invest in the Pantone chips since paper!=plastic, color checker, and neutral white lighting if I can to hopefully color check the samples as best as possible. I understand the skepticism though and I don't blame you for it.

Don't worry. You're good. I was just expressing my concern that's all. Already ordered my set. My pleasure to support you and your project :).
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 18:20:29 »
I just realize this. Would this key be included in the base kit, or is it exclusive only to the addon kit?
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 18 November 2018, 19:35:02 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:27:37 »
I just realize this. Would this key be included in the base kit, or is it exclusive only to the addon kit?
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Yep, it'll only be part of the add-on kit, it was kinda a last minute addition and it was too expensive to have as a separate keycap.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 03:31:40 »
I just realize this. Would this key be included in the base kit, or is it exclusive only to the addon kit?
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Yep, it'll only be part of the add-on kit, it was kinda a last minute addition and it was too expensive to have as a separate keycap.
Would you ever consider including one in the base kit? I really want that key, but it just doesn't make sense to get the whole 40s kit just for a key..
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 07:58:23 »
I just realize this. Would this key be included in the base kit, or is it exclusive only to the addon kit?
(Attachment Link)
Yep, it'll only be part of the add-on kit, it was kinda a last minute addition and it was too expensive to have as a separate keycap.
Would you ever consider including one in the base kit? I really want that key, but it just doesn't make sense to get the whole 40s kit just for a key..

Its probably too late to change the kits as the set is in GB.
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 19 November 2018, 18:37:07 »

Its probably too late to change the kits as the set is in GB.
I just noticed there was a price drop. Also I don't think that key was ever introduced in the IC. I only saw it showing up just now during the final proposed kit for GB. Was just hoping it could be included in the base kit. Oh well..
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:11:22 »
Am I correct that to get a 7u spacebar I'd have to buy the spacebar kit?

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:21:13 »
Am I correct that to get a 7u spacebar I'd have to buy the spacebar kit?
Base kit has 7u in alpha color, spacebar kit has it in accent color

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 23:40:41 »
I'd zfrontier going to get an updated pricing? It's still 168 for the base kit.

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 21:03:01 »
I'd zfrontier going to get an updated pricing? It's still 168 for the base kit.

This. Will place an order once the pricing has been revised.

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[GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:26:22 »
I'd zfrontier going to get an updated pricing? It's still 168 for the base kit.

This. Will place an order once the pricing has been revised.

i thinks thats the final price,
zfront always set higher price due to free shipping (DHL express)
and zfront launched their GB page after the cut price announced

but 30$ different is still too much i think.  usually arround 20?
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 29 November 2018, 02:33:00 »


I'd zfrontier going to get an updated pricing? It's still 168 for the base kit.

This. Will place an order once the pricing has been revised.

i thinks thats the final price,
zfront always set higher price due to free shipping (DHL express)
and zfront launched their GB page after the cut price announced

but 30$ different is still too much i think.  usually arround 30?
It's definitely too much, especially once you add more kits. In comparison, calm depths is a much more reasonable $20 difference

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 21:49:32 »
So how's this looking as far as MOQ goes? 

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 13:58:38 »
Lovely looking set. Makes me wish I'd ordered the pearl white Doro instead of titanium.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 03:10:24 »


I'd zfrontier going to get an updated pricing? It's still 168 for the base kit.

This. Will place an order once the pricing has been revised.

i thinks thats the final price,
zfront always set higher price due to free shipping (DHL express)
and zfront launched their GB page after the cut price announced

but 30$ different is still too much i think.  usually arround 30?
It's definitely too much, especially once you add more kits. In comparison, calm depths is a much more reasonable $20 difference

Crossposted from Reddit:
I got a statement from them about it. It's gonna be a long explanation, so be prepared.
So basically what happened was something within the profit margins. So how it broke down into X% of the base price ($168 on ZF) goes to the designer, me (the designer share), if it is 10% $16.80 would go to me, 5% $8.40, and etc. Then a large part of that goes into GMK actually making the keyset. Leaving the rest going into shipping and the profits to ZF. I'm sure this was already known to some extent, but there's a few factors into why it became more expensive on ZF. One of them is that ZF needs a higher price in order to break even or profit compared to Kono (remember shipping is included here and that also accounts for the designer share). So if ZF puts the price at $158, they actually will be losing money. Then looking at Calm Depths, to put it simply, the designer share was done differently, rather than it being a percentage from the base price, it is a percentage of the profit ZF makes going into the designer.
So why is Kono lower still? You probably can guess it, but Kono wasn't seeking as high of a profit margin is one reason I'd imagine, and I actually speculated that they aren't making that much off this set after seeing the price cut.
Either way I'm sorry it turned out like this for the guys in Asia, I really am. :(
Any further questions, feel free to reply here.

I am going to see if there's anything I can do right now actually, since I feel bad I caused this to happen.

So how's this looking as far as MOQ goes? 

I wish it was a lot better tbh, let's just say that. I will stay optimistic though regardless and even if this doesn't succeed right now, there's always another time!

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 03:30:23 »
I appreciate your honesty man, usually thats a sensitive matter to talk about lol

Still bought from zfron since its the most accesible place for me...

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 08:11:48 »
 I feel like I'm looking at two different keycap sets in the renders. The ones on Kono look like they are bright white with powder blue accents. But the kit mock up, and the last render from the head-on angle, look much more muted with the alphas being definitely gray.

Also, in the brighter renders, there is very little contrast between the legends in the backgrounds on the Alpha keys, possibly making people think that the text will be hard to read in person. I suspect that a similar concern over contrast (which I don't believe will be an issue in real life)  is driving people away from DMG.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 08:40:20 »
Would love to know the current moq before committing the buy.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 23:26:07 »
How is this doing with MOQ?

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 00:59:13 »
Would also appreciate an update on MoQ
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 14:28:11 »
MOQ update would be nice
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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 01:21:00 »
Any updates, OP?
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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 02:18:56 »
He mentioned in Discord that he has not received updates from all retailers, but expected to get them by last sunday IIRC - maybe he doesn't update until he has the numbers?

In any case, it was pretty far off as of right now - perhaps credited to the renders portraying 3 different sets, making us unsure what we're getting.

I like this set, I hope it makes MOQ, but there's always next time.

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 15 December 2018, 02:57:18 »
Any update,really want this
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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 December 2018, 21:24:24 »
Any updates on MOQ? The last day to order is today.
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 06:41:16 »
I believe the set is cancelled.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 06:47:35 »
I believe the set is cancelled.
Is there a source?

That's a bummer nonetheless
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 07:11:42 »
I believe the set is cancelled.
Is there a source?

That's a bummer nonetheless

He said it in the top clack discord, but I'm sure they'll announce it soon.

Agreed, not the greatest news :\

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 11:26:22 »
I believe the set is cancelled.
Is there a source?

That's a bummer nonetheless

He said it in the top clack discord, but I'm sure they'll announce it soon.

Agreed, not the greatest news :\

The lack of updates and the fact that there is no sample keycaps might have played a big part in this not being successful. I was very interested in this set but after solarized dark and necro problems I wanted to see at least some sample keycaps. What a shame.

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 11:40:37 »
I feel the same way in that the decreased participation of the OP in answering questions and providing updates was a bit off putting. I trust that the sales may have gone better if it really had been pushed and marketed for
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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 11:47:45 »
I'll definitely say that I never joined due to lack of updates from OP.  Too bad, was a beautiful set.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 13:49:12 »
I believe the set is cancelled.
Is there a source?

That's a bummer nonetheless

He said it in the top clack discord, but I'm sure they'll announce it soon.

Agreed, not the greatest news :\

The lack of updates and the fact that there is no sample keycaps might have played a big part in this not being successful. I was very interested in this set but after solarized dark and necro problems I wanted to see at least some sample keycaps. What a shame.


GMK doesn't provide samples until after an order is placed. See the run for GMK Olivia and GMK Mr Sleeves add-on on how it's handled. 

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 18 December 2018, 16:31:26 »
Shame, I was looking forward to this set. Maybe it can be run again after some time and more exposure / marketing.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:48:48 »
I read on the AU keyboards Discord from one of the proxies (DailyClack) that the set has been extended. Seems like the set is still up for purchase there and on Kono.

Hopefully it manages to make it, I really like the set.

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 14:43:46 »
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 15:56:07 »
wish we could get an update from the OP on whether this was extended or not...

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 15:57:45 »
wish we could get an update from the OP on whether this was extended or not...

took my words right out of my mouth ... or keyboard typing.

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Offline Mikiberry

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 22:47:32 »
any updates?

Offline ian13

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Re: [GB] GMK Shoko
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 23:20:52 »
I think this GB was extended? However, it's probably best to have an official statement from the gb starter himself