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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 16:03:54 »
I like this a lot. I feel like the base kit could (imo should) be condensed though - the barred numpad 5, double 0, the 1u alt+ctrl and the 1.5u super keys will probably see little use.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 17:39:02 »
Looks awesome man, lets get some of this goodness going.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 21:31:03 »
Very nice!

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 23:45:06 »
I like this a lot. I feel like the base kit could (imo should) be condensed though - the barred numpad 5, double 0, the 1u alt+ctrl and the 1.5u super keys will probably see little use.

I'm taking into consideration dropping some keys, but I believe the 1u alt/ ctrl is helpful in 96/ mac layouts. The super keys are for mac users (such as I) as well

Good call on the numpad 5 though!

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 00:17:40 »
Does a mold for stepped “Caps” exist already or would that be a new one? The only text-only sets I’m familiar with are Burgundy R2 and Oblivion, both of which use “Caps Lock” on two lines for the stepped key.
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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 01:28:54 »
Another small update- Updated OP

Been playing around with some rendering and 3D, I'll work on getting more done eventually, but here's one to start off!



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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 01:32:02 »
Does a mold for stepped “Caps” exist already or would that be a new one? The only text-only sets I’m familiar with are Burgundy R2 and Oblivion, both of which use “Caps Lock” on two lines for the stepped key.

I've messaged GMK about this. Ideally, I'd like to keep it minimal, with no stacked text on the entire kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 01:43:24 »
never thought something so simple would look so good!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 13:14:51 »
Looks really good! Personally I would love a 1u "Code" or "Meta" key.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 13:48:59 »
Looks good!

Any thoughts on making F-row uniform color?

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 00:28:41 »
this is really interesting. I'll keep an eye on it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 00:44:49 »
Looks quite interesting! Grays are always nice, but sometimes I wonder if my life needs more color when I have too many gray things. :D Full-text mods are unique, but always a bit unbalanced,  in my opinion. Oh well, if that's your choice, it's your choice. Anyways, I've got some questions.

Do you have any colors picked out?
If so, what are they?

Are there any custom colors? I think the community gets weary at the mention of custom colors without any quantifiable backing after a certain fiasco.
Any reason you chose two different enters in the base kit? This reflects upon the final base kit price significantly, y'know.

Do you think it's worth it to include the EU/UK options right in the base kit? Usually, the 5-10 purchases that it drives, in my opinion, is not worth including it in the base kit due to how many keys are put in and how that increases the price.

The stepped caps lock key without "lock" really looks a bit strange to me. What led you to that design decision?

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 01:58:37 »
Looks good!

Any thoughts on making F-row uniform color?
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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 02:11:32 »
looks like it might go good with the recent black friday caps


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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 00:15:31 »
Looks quite interesting! Grays are always nice, but sometimes I wonder if my life needs more color when I have too many gray things. :D Full-text mods are unique, but always a bit unbalanced,  in my opinion. Oh well, if that's your choice, it's your choice. Anyways, I've got some questions.

Do you have any colors picked out?
If so, what are they?

Are there any custom colors? I think the community gets weary at the mention of custom colors without any quantifiable backing after a certain fiasco.
Any reason you chose two different enters in the base kit? This reflects upon the final base kit price significantly, y'know.

Do you think it's worth it to include the EU/UK options right in the base kit? Usually, the 5-10 purchases that it drives, in my opinion, is not worth including it in the base kit due to how many keys are put in and how that increases the price.

The stepped caps lock key without "lock" really looks a bit strange to me. What led you to that design decision?

Cheers!

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Hey Bryan, apologies for the late reply. I've been busy at work with the holidays coming up!

Do you have any colors picked out?
If so, what are they?


I'm still working with GMK and looking towards RAL. Pantone greys just don't fit what I'm looking for.

Any reason you chose two different enters in the base kit?

One is an accent, one is not. I do like accented enters.

Do you think it's worth it to include the EU/UK options right in the base kit? Usually, the 5-10 purchases that it drives, in my opinion, is not worth including it in the base kit due to how many keys are put in and how that increases the price.

Good point, I could look towards creating a EU/ UK kit... My original plan was to condense everything to one kit. But they've derailed and I'm planning on adding an R0/ R5 kit (Barring community feedback)  ;).When I finally have freetime I'm going to try to create renders and polls on which kits to move forward on.

The stepped caps lock key without "lock" really looks a bit strange to me. What led you to that design decision?

I want to keep all the text on one line for a streamlined, minimal look. I believe GMK has a "Lock" stepped caps- which would suit my needs.

All that being said, I'm planning on doing more extensive work on this during my free time, and do plan on pushing for this set to move forward to GB phase in late Q1 next year.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 00:19:54 »
Looks really good! Personally I would love a 1u "Code" or "Meta" key.

"Code" or "Super" or "Code" or "Super" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Looks good!

Any thoughts on making F-row uniform color?


I've always fancied non- uniform f-rows, but if I move forward with an R0/ R5 kit, that could be considered.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 16:46:14 »
New Survey, filling this out would help fix kits!

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 17:45:43 »
Looking forward to seeing this progress to group buy!

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 12.01
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 19:00:26 »
Another small update- Updated OP

Been playing around with some rendering and 3D, I'll work on getting more done eventually, but here's one to start off!


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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 22:40:42 »
I still like this keyset

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 15 January 2019, 23:43:21 »
I too am still very interested in this set.

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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 03:02:34 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 09:16:26 »
Very nice set! I’m interested.


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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:10:58 »
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Is this allowed ?


But yea looks very nice and looking forward to this set! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 18 January 2019, 10:26:31 »
May be the 1st GMK i buy even though not a fan of the profile.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 18 January 2019, 17:28:46 »
Yeah i likely buy a TKL set even though GMK suck butts.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 07:26:28 »
This set looks really nice. Its a pretty unique take at an all grey colorway. I will be joining for sure.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #77 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:30:25 »
Awesome. Count me in.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:58:58 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:04:40 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.

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I highly disagree that this is anything like wob, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Feel free to post some pictures and point out the similaries (other than there being some sort of shade of white or black color).

I think if you want 2B alphas, and are aiming for that sort of alpha to modifier contrast then you may be interested in something like epbt slate (currently in GB) or gmk modern dolch (GB over but might be able to snag extras.

I truly believe this to be a unique design when it comes to gmk at least, and I hope the OP continues with its development.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:17:34 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.

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I highly disagree that this is anything like wob, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Feel free to post some pictures and point out the similaries (other than there being some sort of shade of white or black color).

I think if you want 2B alphas, and are aiming for that sort of alpha to modifier contrast then you may be interested in something like epbt slate (currently in GB) or gmk modern dolch (GB over but might be able to snag extras.

I truly believe this to be a unique design when it comes to gmk at least, and I hope the OP continues with its development.

Even the first gmk uniqey set is currently available with similar dark grey  alphas

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:49:23 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.

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I highly disagree that this is anything like wob, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Feel free to post some pictures and point out the similaries (other than there being some sort of shade of white or black color).

I think if you want 2B alphas, and are aiming for that sort of alpha to modifier contrast then you may be interested in something like epbt slate (currently in GB) or gmk modern dolch (GB over but might be able to snag extras.

I truly believe this to be a unique design when it comes to gmk at least, and I hope the OP continues with its development.

Even the first gmk uniqey set is currently available with similar dark grey  alphas

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Sorry for the lack of responses everyone, I've been busy with work recently.

To respond, this keyset is designed to be in the neutral-to-cooler ranger of grays. The new Uniquey set utilizes N9, which is a very dark and warm grey color (used in dolch). I'm not much of a fan of warm greys, which is why I'm also in the modern dolch buy  :thumb:

This keyset has a darker and more subdued look than modern dolch, sometimes less contrast is better. Kinda like Batman.

And looking forward. I'm planning on working out my own gray palette (Pantones just didn't work for me) and shipping to GMK for them to match. I work in an industry that takes color matching and printing very seriously- so I'll be taking my time with finding the right shades.
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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:36:39 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.



Even the first gmk uniqey set is currently available with similar dark grey  alphas

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Totally disagree. That's like saying GMK monochrome was pointless because WoB had black mods and some other gmk set had white alphas already. And with lighter 2b alphas it whould basically just be dolch/modern dolch.
This set is a lot different than black/gray or white sets, including epbt slate and especially boring stadard WoB that looks like any Dell keyboard IMO. It's the dark gray alphas with moderately dark gray accents in the reverse of the normal light/dark alpha combo that make this different. And it has to be that way for the dulled achromatic look. Missing the point of the set.

The subtle difference is important. Keep on with the original intent of the set, it's why people are interested in it.
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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:49:12 »
I think that it is too similar to the already run and run again white on black. In the last year there have been at least 5 iterations: geekhack, massdrop, uniqey, originative.
I think that everybody already owns it.
Otherwise, if you make some lighter alphas, like gmk 2B alphas with with white font, it would be really intersting, and it would be easy to combine it with existings sets, since there are a lot of sets which have white fonts.



Even the first gmk uniqey set is currently available with similar dark grey  alphas

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Totally disagree. That's like saying GMK monochrome was pointless because WoB had black mods and some other gmk set had white alphas already. And with lighter 2b alphas it whould basically just be dolch/modern dolch.
This set is a lot different than any of those, including epbt slate and especially boring stadard WoB that looks like any Dell keyboard IMO. It's the dark gray alphas with moderately dark gray accents in the reverse of the normal light/dark alpha combo that make this different. And it has to be that way for the dulled achromatic look. Missing the point of the set.

The subtle difference is important. Keep on with the original intent of the set, it's why people are interested in it.
I'm glad we're on the same page regarding this. For whatever reason I thought I was alone in the belief that this is anything like any other set ran in the past.
The OP has done an incredible job of creating a very unique and attractive monochrome set from a color (grey/black whatever you want to call it) that, in my opinion, is very boring and drab on its own.
Really happy from the recent update from the OP too. I was worried we had lost a beautiful set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 03:28:28 »
Modern dolch is way darker than 2B! I think that to make this set more orginal and probably more liked, you need to choose between two alternatives:
- 2B alphas with white font
- grey alphas (darker than 2B), with grey font

If you choose a white font and dark grey color for the alphas, then it's just another modern dolch or WOB. Nothing original.

On top of that, the darker the color of the alphas, the shinier they get.
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« Reply #85 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:25:02 »
Modern dolch is way darker than 2B! I think that to make this set more orginal and probably more liked, you need to choose between two alternatives:
- 2B alphas with white font
- grey alphas (darker than 2B), with grey font

If you choose a white font and dark grey color for the alphas, then it's just another modern dolch or WOB. Nothing original.

On top of that, the darker the color of the alphas, the shinier they get.


I think this is substantially different than modern dolch. Some of the colors may be similar but these are definitely different enough imo to warrant this set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:28:31 »
I hope the font color will be a shade of grey and NOT white?

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // small update 11.27
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:47:25 »
I like this a lot. I feel like the base kit could (imo should) be condensed though - the barred numpad 5, double 0, the 1u alt+ctrl and the 1.5u super keys will probably see little use.

the barred numpad 5 is necessary, you can remove the one with the dot/nipple  :p

It seems that GMK has added more standard colors some shades of gray that don't appear on the standard palette. Can anyone confirm? I've seen GR11 and such.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 10:19:22 »
Modern dolch is way darker than 2B! I think that to make this set more orginal and probably more liked, you need to choose between two alternatives:
- 2B alphas with white font
- grey alphas (darker than 2B), with grey font

If you choose a white font and dark grey color for the alphas, then it's just another modern dolch or WOB. Nothing original.

On top of that, the darker the color of the alphas, the shinier they get.

Font will be a shade of gray, hence the theme of the set: all gray.

Gmk sets come with the expectation of shine eventually.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:10:17 »
Color me interested!  :eek:

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #90 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:11:58 »
Modern dolch is way darker than 2B! I think that to make this set more orginal and probably more liked, you need to choose between two alternatives:
- 2B alphas with white font
- grey alphas (darker than 2B), with grey font

If you choose a white font and dark grey color for the alphas, then it's just another modern dolch or WOB. Nothing original.

On top of that, the darker the color of the alphas, the shinier they get.

Font will be a shade of gray, hence the theme of the set: all gray.

Gmk sets come with the expectation of shine eventually.



Can you also manufacture that TKL in your render?

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:45:29 »
I like this a lot. I feel like the base kit could (imo should) be condensed though - the barred numpad 5, double 0, the 1u alt+ctrl and the 1.5u super keys will probably see little use.

1.5u Super keys are “super” useful (pun intended) for WKL users who happen to also be macOS users (Super keys next to space bar). Not everybody’s on a PC.


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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:29:46 »
Time to replace my poor man's Achromatic!




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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 22:18:30 »
Time to replace my poor man's Achromatic!


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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 00:26:36 »
No, just a Tofu

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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:09:03 »
Amazing keyset! I'd love if it had Icon Mods though.

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Re: [IC] GMK Achromatic // NEW SURVEY 12.08
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 20:11:08 »
I like it, an I have just the overly black keyboard to put it on. Count me as in with a +1.

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« Reply #97 on: Sat, 26 January 2019, 03:58:36 »
Very Interested.

:thumb: on the 1.5u supers.

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« Reply #98 on: Sun, 27 January 2019, 02:27:05 »
Nice set. Wish the legends are in light grey to make it stealthy

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« Reply #99 on: Wed, 30 January 2019, 11:40:08 »
Time to replace my poor man's Achromatic!


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Nothing to be ashame of, your set looks great.