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[GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 22:14:26 »
A meticulously crafted PVD plate designed hand-in-hand with the tasteful black & copper PCB for increased flex lends itself to an experience so , that you will get even more #feelios from your V2 Zealios and Zilents.
Enter Xeno.


Do you fancy half plates, or prefer a more traditional full plate? The choice is yours, simply click below two images to view the product page.

Early Bird Special: $40 off your XENO order with discount code "EARLYBIRD". Valid until Dec 2, 2018, 23:59PST.

Half Plate | Silver | Rose Gold PVD - Starting from $460


Full Plate | Purple | Silver PVD - Starting from $460


Renders with Keycaps on





Contents:
- XENO Black & Silver Storage Box
- XENO 75% Aluminum Keyboard Kit
- XENO Special Edition Black & Copper PCB for increased feelios
- 1.5mm PVD & Hand Polished Brass Plate
- PVD & Hand Polished Brass Weight
- 1x 6.25u OR 7u, 3x 2u Zeal Screw-in Stabilizers (mention preference in checkout notes). Default is 6.25u if no comment.
- Custom 3M Bumpons
- Matching accent screws to your PVD Brass Plate / Weight
- You have the option to add 85x Zealios/Zilents/Tealios/Healios to your order for +$60 (Zealios V2 & Tealios), or +$70 (Zilents V2 & Healios).

Specs:

- USB C
- QMK Compatible
- Black & Copper Aesthetics PCB by Wilba
- Factory Soldered SMD Parts
- ANSI Full Plate. WK & WKL Only
(1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1.25/1.25/gap/1/1/1) OR (1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/gap/1/1/1)
Regular/Stepped Caps Lock Support
Split Backspace Support
Total kit weight before PCB: ~2.4kg


Case Color Options:
Black
Silver
Purple

Brass Color Options:
Rose Gold PVD
Silver PVD
Black PVD

GB Open:November 26, 2018 to February 15, 2019, 23:59 PST.
Estimated shipping time frame is April-May, 2019 due to Chinese New Year Holidays during February. This also allows customers to recover from the Christmas Holiday spending.




Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.
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Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 22:14:33 »
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Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 23:48:41 »
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:03:01 »
I’m in for a black+rose gold combo.
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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:30:31 »
Love the layout! Couple questions: is there a split spacebar option for this PCB, and do the three holes in top have LED's that can be utilized?

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:42:42 »
Love the layout! Couple questions: is there a split spacebar option for this PCB, and do the three holes in top have LED's that can be utilized?
From my understanding:
- no split spacebars
- top right has an RGB LED.

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 01:01:22 »


Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.

What if I am waiting on my sample of zealios v2 to come? I'd liketo try them out before I go ham and order them w/o trying but I'd also like to get Early bird discount.

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 01:06:16 »


Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.

What if I am waiting on my sample of zealios v2 to come? I'd liketo try them out before I go ham and order them w/o trying but I'd also like to get Early bird discount.

You can order now with switches and get the discount. If you don’t like the V2 you can always just resell them.

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 03:18:17 »
whats peoples thoughts on the half plate vs full plate? I am thinking of selling off one or two of my other board's to try and get this one. Kinda a end game be all end all board for me.

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:11:28 »
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:20:50 »
Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:50:48 »
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?

Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.


Since the box is custom designed to fit one XENO each, there's no other room to fit other accessories in order to keep the volumetric / actual weight down for shipping.

Like the Zephyr, the XENO will be screwed together in the box, with the PCB on the top layer.

For time being, extras won't be offered.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 05:36:57 »
It's here!  :)
Can I ask how tall the front is?

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 08:00:20 »
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?

Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.

Since the box is custom designed to fit one XENO each, there's no other room to fit other accessories in order to keep the volumetric / actual weight down for shipping.

Like the Zephyr, the XENO will be screwed together in the box, with the PCB on the top layer.

For time being, extras won't be offered.

I'll buy this anyway because I love the layout, but I really, really dislike this - it's so common for buyers of high-end customs to buy multiple PCBs and plates for a variety of reasons (if a PCB dies, if you want to build with different switch types, etc). I can't think of any GBs other than this and the Zephyr that didn't make this an option. I think "but it has a nice box" is a silly reason if purely aesthetic - perhaps more reasonable if it keeps things simple in terms of a single shipping box size, but it seems like enough people would buy an extra plate+PCB combo to make it worth it.

Even Rama's board GBs, where there's a similar zeal (ahem) for aesthetics in the packaging etc, allow for the purchase of extras.
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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 13:54:40 »
It's here!  :)
Can I ask how tall the front is?

20mm with bumpons applied.
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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 November 2018, 20:06:12 »
Can I ask the material of PCB? FR4?

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:24:19 »
Would it be possible to see some better pictures of the prototype? Perhaps something showing off the side profile or weight. Not sure if this is doable before the early bird deadline closes, but if so that would be great!

Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:59:32 »
Can I ask the material of PCB? FR4?

FR4


Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 29 November 2018, 01:42:02 »
I want to see how the purple case match with the rose gold plate/weight.   :cool:

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 00:48:38 »
Thank you for the GB window period. Gives me time to gather funds for it.

Can't wait!

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 08:03:48 »
This is really stunning. Great layout too, and I love the little triumvirate of lights.

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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 08:08:18 »
Thank you Pwner, very cool!

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 30 November 2018, 17:07:01 »
Would it be possible to see some better pictures of the prototype? Perhaps something showing off the side profile or weight. Not sure if this is doable before the early bird deadline closes, but if so that would be great!

Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

I'd also like to see some more quality shots of your prototype if possible!

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 02:37:20 »
Extra parts are now available:

PCB
Plate

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.


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Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 02:56:07 »
Extra parts are now available:

PCB
Plate

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

Why is there no image of the PCB on Zeal's site? Because Wilba is a fussy bastard and the renders he makes are too meh for his taste.
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 03:09:47 »
Extra parts are now available:

PCB
Plate

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

Why is there no image of the PCB on Zeal's site? Because Wilba is a fussy bastard and the renders he makes are too meh for his taste.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 08:19:41 »
Extra parts are now available:

PCB
Plate

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:41:39 »
oof, shame about the branding on the weight

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:18:29 »
oof, shame about the branding on the weight

Xeno's original idea of branding, e.g. predator inspired logo will not be on the weight??
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:51:45 »
oof, shame about the branding on the weight

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oof, shame about the branding on the weight

Xeno's original idea of branding, e.g. predator inspired logo will not be on the weight??

My logo on the outside to keep it relatively clean and simple, board name on the inside.

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 06:58:21 »
Is the purple for the case aiming to match the purple of zealios? It looks quite dark and blue.
Anyway, I'm in for purple/silver :D
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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:11:54 »
Is the purple for the case aiming to match the purple of zealios? It looks quite dark and blue.
Anyway, I'm in for purple/silver :D

It will be the same as the purple from r2 of the zephyr gb.



There should be more images of those once people start getting them in so you can get a better idea of the color.

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 06:11:00 »
Have to voice out my long hidden question / wish:

Does the current PCB design (which already looks great) support any type of hot sockets for make it hot swappable?

I haven't invested in one of those multi-hundred dollar desoldering setup and every time I desolder something I burned, tore, and damaged the pad and the circuit.
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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 08:23:55 »
Have to voice out my long hidden question / wish:

Does the current PCB design (which already looks great) support any type of hot sockets for make it hot swappable?

I haven't invested in one of those multi-hundred dollar desoldering setup and every time I desolder something I burned, tore, and damaged the pad and the circuit.

I have led/switch holtites and mill max sockets on the way from another user that I will be using to test that.  :thumb:

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 08:24:37 »
Please show us more pictures of the prototype pretty please?
I can't decide between black with rose gold polished plate or silver with polished black plate -_-

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 10:03:12 »
I agree, more renders wouldn’t hurt, especially with keycaps on.


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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:33:33 »
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.
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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:34:27 »
Hopefully one of the side angle :p

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 13:05:35 »
Is the Xeno pad a possibility now? I'd love to have both!

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:05:50 »
Is the Xeno pad a possibility now? I'd love to have both!
Oh god how could I forget about the pad!? I agree with GrizzlyAL 100%

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:07:38 »
My wife rages on me because I only have 75%s I'd grab one too just to stahp that

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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 26 December 2018, 12:29:17 »
Really curious about the pad too. I'm torn on getting another 75%, but I'd be in for sure if I knew a pad was still in the works.

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 01:14:11 »
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 06:46:24 »
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^

I would also love to see this!

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 07:05:45 »
Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.

I think you can get the pcb seperately here: https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 09:31:10 »
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^

I would also love to see this!

That’s the combo I just went with.

Now for keycaps. The PBT slate has caught my eye .


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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 28 December 2018, 13:44:59 »
Xeno pad would make this a must buy for me. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
            

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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:18:55 »
Deleting my post because I figured out the answer (it was a dumb question) sorry!
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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:48:49 »
What color do I get... :confused:

And lol Zeal, I totally forgot about that quote.  Ancient Chinese wisdom.

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« Reply #49 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:57:25 »
What color do I get... :confused:

And lol Zeal, I totally forgot about that quote.  Ancient Chinese wisdom.

Silver/rose gold, of course!
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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 15:33:36 »
Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.  :p  Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:

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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 00:48:34 »
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.
which colors are you referring to?

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 07:21:06 »
I really wanted to see silver on black pvd or silver on rose gold pvd or black on rose gold pvd prototypes. Also, from the renders, black seems to be like a very dark gray? Is it going to that way or will it be black as in real black?

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:04:26 »
Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.    Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:
I went with the same combo. Black on black on black. Gonna throw gmk terminal on there and call it a day :)

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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:08:47 »
I really wanted to see silver on black pvd or silver on rose gold pvd or black on rose gold pvd prototypes. Also, from the renders, black seems to be like a very dark gray? Is it going to that way or will it be black as in real black?

We are waiting on new samples of all available color options!  Machining is done, waiting on the PVD finish.


Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.    Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:
I went with the same combo. Black on black on black. Gonna throw gmk terminal on there and call it a day :)

Black on black is the move.  :thumb:
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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:10:36 »
Black on black on black here as well, but I shall not reveal the set for it jus yet

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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:24:44 »
Black on black on black here as well, but I shall not reveal the set for it jus yet
Taking a guess and thinking GMK Taro.

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Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 01 January 2019, 08:16:56 »
Hoping to see a purple rose gold (or silver) Laser combo

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Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 01 January 2019, 11:23:54 »
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?
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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 01:49:21 »
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.
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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 04:51:01 »
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.

When I read into it, there are many kinds of PVD coating, and some are "virtually not possible to scratch it"
https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating

What kind of PVD is that? Is that DLC?
Wishlist: 1) hotswap boards for MX and for Alps; 2) Alps64; 3) Universal Teensy convertor; 3) Quack & Split Planck; 4) Solid cases like TX
More
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IBM M13 black
IBM SpaceSaver II
IBM KPD8923 Trackpoint
Choc mini Gateron black
PLUM 84 'Topre-clone' 55g Korean dome
HHKB Pro 2 stock
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« Reply #61 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 04:56:50 »
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.

When I read into it, there are many kinds of PVD coating, and some are "virtually not possible to scratch it"
https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating

What kind of PVD is that? Is that DLC?

Yeah, that's dlc.  I'm not even sure if that's feasible in an application like this, let alone imagining what the cost would be.

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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:25:00 »
DLC=/=PVD. It would be much, much, much more expensive to offer DLC.
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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 09:57:44 »
Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.

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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:30:49 »
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!

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« Reply #65 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 13:49:26 »
Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.
The silver case? Or the silver plate/weight? The case is anodized. The plate weight is PVD so it should be polished.

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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 13:57:35 »
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. I’m good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:24:15 »
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. I’m good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.
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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:37:29 »
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. I’m good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

My purple zephyr, is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

Thanks for the info.


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« Reply #69 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:40:41 »
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:46:51 »

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

That zephyr purple / blue is sexy af though, would have no complaints if that’s what it looks like!

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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:48:41 »

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

That zephyr purple / blue is sexy af though, would have no complaints if that’s what it looks like!
Oh I totally agree. I absolutely love the color. The thing is gorgeous. Didn't mean to sound negative

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« Reply #72 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:53:10 »
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.

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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 17:30:41 »
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.

Pretty much this, would be unfair to the people that did jump in early.

Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. I’m good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

I had a short chat with zeal during the stream and I believe these issues are being sorted out.  I will let Zeal comment further.

We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!

I did do new renders but was not happy with them and to avoid any further color discrepancy we'll wait for the new samples which should be ready any time now.

Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.

The pvd will be polished.

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:10:57 »
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.

Pretty much this, would be unfair to the people that did jump in early.

Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. I’m good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

I had a short chat with zeal during the stream and I believe these issues are being sorted out.  I will let Zeal comment further.

We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!

I did do new renders but was not happy with them and to avoid any further color discrepancy we'll wait for the new samples which should be ready any time now.

Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.

The pvd will be polished.


Thanks for the reply. That sounds encouraging. I’m not against blue, but I paid for and want eggplant purple.


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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:00:09 »
This was mentioned by riotonthebay on his No.1 60/65 thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98780.msg2703523#msg2703523

Surprised the Zeal PCB mounting legs are loose, v1 were insanely tight in Cherry-spec PCBs. I heard Zeal tried to fix that for v2, maybe they over-compensated?

Ideally they're not loose in the PCB at all, so alignment with a partial/plateless build shouldn't be that problematic.

I don't believe Zeal over-compensated here — I don't want any misinformation to be spread. Wilba, who designed this PCB, designs PCBs for Zeal as well, and has in the past used a very slightly larger than Cherry-spec switch mounting holes in order to accommodate non-Cherry switches with legs that were slightly oversized. In my builds, it wasn't problematic (I've built two half-plate PCBs out at this point), but future PCBs will be made with standard Cherry-spec mounting holes.

Maybe zeal or pwner can confirm on the pcb situation if he has the proto case + pcb with the v2s on hand to test out. I may be being overly cautious but loose v2 with half plate Xeno might make keycap alignment troublesome. Thank you!

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 18:13:03 »
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 20:35:23 »
Waiting for images of the proto in different colors.

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« Reply #78 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 23:55:28 »
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.

Great to hear, thanks for the info Wilba!

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 11 January 2019, 03:24:36 »
Waiting for images of the proto in different colors.

Same here.


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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 11 January 2019, 05:16:51 »
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.

Thanks for the clarification Wilba!

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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 13 January 2019, 02:14:54 »
already tempted to pull the trigger.

will wait for more renders!

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« Reply #82 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:30:53 »
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:21:57 »
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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« Reply #84 on: Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:23:03 »
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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Will be getting samples in before CNY happens. So in a week or so.

Sounds good.


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« Reply #85 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:04:54 »
Still contemplating this: undecided on whether to go for half-plate vs full-plate. Thinking of going w/ purple, but wish there were a few more color options. Is there any intended plan to do a round 2?

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 05:54:45 »
a long shot but, can I just buy the pcb? you know, just add the pcb add-on to the cart and check out.