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Offline TuckTuckFloof

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What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 01:49:38 »
They good? I was thinking of getting a Vortex ViBe with MX Blacks because I like the layout and think it's cool as heck, tide me over until I achieve my endgame which is a Southpaw 65% kit so I can pimp it out with Healios and GMK keycaps n such. Unless you know somebody selling one :), I'd love to hear what you think of the Black switches!

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 01:54:13 »
Mx blacks and especially vintage mx blacks in particular are a very very popular linear swirch and unlike clones they don't die down in hype when people decide they aren't topical anymore but rather stand the test of time

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 02:09:16 »
My first ever mx switch and still one of my favourites. I do like to mod them but Ive always appreciated a nice linear switch such as a regular black mx.
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 03:08:51 »
Personally, I find them extremely boring (even for a linear switch) and weighted too stiffly plus being scratchy to boot. Vintage blacks are much smoother, but are also even stiffer.
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 04:28:19 »
I think that if one want's MX Black then Tealios should be considered instead. I personally find 67g on linear switches a bit too much and would appreciate 58-60g Tealio-like switch.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 06:21:33 »
MX black (retooled or vintage) are quite nice with lighter springs (e.g. 62g) and with thin lube.
I find the bottom-out sound to be better than Tealios due to the housing.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 10:44:58 »
MX Blacks are too heavy for me.  Much prefer the MX Nature Whites - placed directly in between MX Reds and MX Blacks.  Perfect mix of rme in both typing and gaming.  Especially the typing.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 11:02:38 »
I'm not a fan of linear switches at all. When I have used MX Blacks for any longer period of time, I have found them fatiguing.
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 11:09:52 »
I use MX blacks in two of my keyboards and really enjoy them.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 11:49:29 »
My two Leopolds have MX Blacks. I like them very much. I came from buclking springs, so I like the heavy springs. I had a Tesoro before also with blacks and they were much scrachier. I guess Leopold use retooled switches. They feel smooth and nice to type on. The sound is also quite pleasant, not very noisy, but I think the thick PBT keycaps also have to do with that.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 12:11:18 »
I've had mixed results buying retooled blacks. First batch I got from Arrow were v.nice. Second batch of 200 I got are pingy as hell and super scratchy (yes, they were indeed retooled). I enjoy them, but I spring swap them to something much lighter and feel I need to lube them.
Last board I built with them had 35g springs on everything but the spacebar.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 13:13:27 »
Cherry MX Blacks are the classic switch in terms of their wide spread usage and acceptance. While I myself prefer lighter weighted switches (Browns/Reds/Speed Silvers), Blacks are still extremely satisfying to type on. As well, while they have morphed a bit in form and feel, my friend has been using the same MX Black board for literally 6 years of heavy usage and they are still more than usable.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 00:14:17 »
Too heavy for me. And I enjoy buckling spring and 55g Topre.
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 00:29:10 »
MX Linears are the best MX switches. Topre is king for tactile ('cept maybe for some re-springed Alps) and IBM rules clicky. Stock blacks are too heavy for me. Gateron Yellow has the best stock linear springs, but for MX Black I like SPRiT 68g.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 02:16:50 »
mx blacks are the weed of the mech keyboard world, a gateway switch

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 02:38:22 »
I have used both re tooled blacks and Tealios along with box blacks. I gotta say the Cherry Retooled blacks are as smooth as the Tealios for half the cost. I also really like box blacks but I know box switches are taboo now days.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 05:41:25 »
I have used both re tooled blacks and Tealios along with box blacks. I gotta say the Cherry Retooled blacks are as smooth as the Tealios for half the cost. I also really like box blacks but I know box switches are taboo now days.

it's not that they're taboo it's just their design is not very thought out and is inferior to the 80s cherry design
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 05:54:55 »
vintage mx blacks with lube and polycarb film

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 07:28:33 »
MX blacks are smooth (depends from where you get them). But way to stiff and heavy. There was a reason why they where put in terminals to avoid accident presses. Gateron Yellow 4 lyf
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 07:34:30 »
A set of my favorite switches are modded Vin Blacks. Soooo gooooood

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:29:47 »
Waiting on some retooled mx blacks to tinker with and I keep hearing they bind on gmk profile, especially with different stem mods. 
Is there anything that can be done to counter this? Stick to SA caps or swap in different switchtops?

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:42:35 »
Waiting on some retooled mx blacks to tinker with and I keep hearing they bind on gmk profile, especially with different stem mods. 
Is there anything that can be done to counter this? Stick to SA caps or swap in different switchtops?

You keep hearing this? Can you elaborate on where you keep hearing this? And what exactly are these "stem mods" you're referring to?

Btw, I'm typing this on one of my 2 keyboards with retooled blacks with GMK keycaps. I have never experienced a single bind with this combo ever.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:49:23 »
This from reddit, and hearing it on build streams with holy chickies and such, but if it's not an issue with stock stems then that's comforting!
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 13:58:14 »
This from reddit, and hearing it on build streams with holy chickies and such, but if it's not an issue with stock stems then that's comforting!
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Holy Chickies use MX Blue housings I thought, which are different than the MX black housings. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong though. I can't remember hearing about any specialized switches that require MX black housings specifically.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 17:03:08 »
Is there a database of some sort to list the good date codes for retooled blacks?  Ive been eyeing some, but Ive heard that even the retooled blacks are a batch to batch gamble. Arrow has some that are date code 1840 that Im tempted to gamble on.


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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 23:30:49 »
They're better than RDs (except maybe an RD Model M).
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 07 January 2019, 01:14:19 »
This from reddit, and hearing it on build streams with holy chickies and such, but if it's not an issue with stock stems then that's comforting!
(Attachment Link)

Holy Chickies use MX Blue housings I thought, which are different than the MX black housings. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong though. I can't remember hearing about any specialized switches that require MX black housings specifically.

Mmm, stock MX switches doesn't have this issue really, it's just the frankenswitch issue (Holy Chickies) when the stem, spring and housing combo is binding a keycap. Also I think it happens more to this frankenswitch if you use lighter springs. Now let's get back to MX Blacks my dudes.

Rumblehotep there's a reason why people prefer MX Blacks and especially vintage switches - smoothness (depends on era/batch but lubed is best anyway), reliability, sound signature (I can't get enough of those typing videos with boards like this HBCP or Velvet's OTD 360C) and the reasonable price/performance ratio.
For example, for the price of a Tealio (now it's $1) you can get almost 4 retooled MX Black switches from Arrow (priced at 0.278 for 100+ pcs order rn).

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 08 January 2019, 20:41:48 »
Ah so stock stems they're fine, that's great!

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:04:03 »
Retooled and vintage mx blacks are very good linear. People usually swap springs to their like (eg. 55g, 62g, ...). They have a really good sound due to their housing.
But they are not the smoothest linear. I still feel them scratchy even after properly lubed.

Tealios is the smoothest linear switch, but the sound is less appealing compared to mx black due to its housing. So, it's kind of trade off depending on which aspect you prioritize more.
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:24:48 »
I just realized that I do not think I have tried a recent MX Black.


I have tried Vin Blacks and Silent Black stems in Zealio housings.

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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 01:12:52 »
Tealios is the smoothest linear switch
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Re: What do you guys think of MX Black Switches?
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 03:46:01 »
I keep hearing people praising retooled Cherry Mx Blacks but not once have I heard anything about newer Mx Red switches. And how about the silenced versions of these switches? I love my fc980m with silenced reds but I don't have much to compare them with.