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Offline Drake9800

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IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 10:38:35 »
Hello!
I recently purchased an M122 from the marketplace and have it torn down and cleaned for reassembly once my work rotation is done. I've spent some time reading through various guides and forums in regards to opinions and methods of the bolt/screw mod, I haven't yet concluded what exactly I'm going to do let alone which parts are the best?

Can anyone with experience rebuilding the 122's shed some light on the subject? I'm in Canada so I'd like to order the bolts/screws etc from amazon or similar while i'm stuck at work.

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 10:44:26 »
Ive done like 10 or so, which compared to others is only a small amount of modding, but I like bolting more than screws, idk why.
This guide should give you the info you need.

https://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod

Only things I would say, is while you have it apart, make sure you clean as deep as you can, because its a lot easier to do when you have it disassembled.
I normally do a warm bath for the cases and plate, then use a magic eraser to get all the scuffs and grime to a minimum.

I also use rubbing alcohol on cotton, to wipe down the membrane connector.

Finally, when you drill your holes, if you have a soldering iron, it makes it easy to make the holes clean.
The problem is there is a flashing ring of plastic that gets pushed up so you want to clip the excess down.

Do this part before cleaning, so that you get any loose clippings off the plate.

Best of luck!

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 12:34:02 »
I think that a chisel blade on an Xacto is the easiest way to shave the rivet stems square and flat, and a tiny burr head on a Dremel is the best way to make starter divots for your drilling.
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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 19:48:03 »
Good luck with this - I hope it goes a bit faster than mine is :))
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 20:19:18 »
Well I can honestly say I am DONE with this repair! a quick trip to the specialty metric bolt store for the m2 bolts and nuts then about 5 hours of drilling and twisting. I used the same length throughout and clipped the bottom row below spacebar to fit. I will say one thing. Compared to my model F this bolt mod adds a hefty chunk to the keystrokes especially the spacebar :)

Thanks to everyone on Geekhack for sharing their knowledge and posting the wiki!

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:55:22 »
No plans to ANSI-mod it too?
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:59:17 »
Well I can honestly say I am DONE with this repair! a quick trip to the specialty metric bolt store for the m2 bolts and nuts then about 5 hours of drilling and twisting. I used the same length throughout and clipped the bottom row below spacebar to fit. I will say one thing. Compared to my model F this bolt mod adds a hefty chunk to the keystrokes especially the spacebar :)

Thanks to everyone on Geekhack for sharing their knowledge and posting the wiki!

Nice! I'm glad it worked out! I love the M122s and glad you got it done!

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:18:17 »
No plans to ANSI-mod it too?

uh oh... that never occurred to me as an option, I'm assuming one would find a donor board for keys/sliders or order from unicomp? is it as simple as popping keys on and off or does it involve moving springs as well :S ?

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Re: IBM M122 Bolt/Screw mod
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 23 January 2019, 13:34:23 »
You have to move springs while the layers are peeled apart.

You can use the board with just standard key stems, but it does take replacing a few keys to make it look right.
ďAs psychoanalysts we understand how one of the things that makes for a certain kind of mental pathology is a hatred of reality and an attack on thought. Donald Trump hates reality .... there are so many different factors psychologically and emotionally that are involved with his behavior that to really understand Donald Trump would mean that you would understand of all of psychiatry. Trump is against any kind of rules or regulation. He sees everything as a kind of psychological straitjacket. Donald Trump probably has the lowest frustration tolerance of any president I have ever witnessed. It is very hard for most people to accept that Donald Trump is not normal, because it is such an unusual situation. He doesnít believe in rules. Not ever - Donald Trump is like a two-year-old child.
Donald Trump actually hates loving families. He hates a deep connection between mothers and children. Donald Trump hates mothers and children. He cannot control those feelings. Therefore Trumpís goal is to separate mothers and children. He wants to punish them. Other people identify with the aggressor, the abuser. This is what Donald Trump did. He became cruel, like the parent, as a way of protecting himself from his own anxiety. Donald Trumpís father always wanted him to be a killer. So psychologically Donald Trump functions like a killer ó but he doesnít kill directly."
- Justin A Frank - Trump on the Couch - 2019