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[GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« on: Sat, 13 November 2021, 16:30:33 »
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➊ intro

This project exists as a piece of referential design and an amalgamation of features from my favorite custom keyboards (namely the OTD Koala + TGR Jane V2), condensed into my two preferred layouts. The principle aim was to merge these classic design elements with modern features and provide a level of modularity and customization to suit the end users typing preferences. This includes an individualized injection-molded gasket mount, seamless enclosure design and hidden cable routing amongst a bevy of other features.



➋ details

►Layouts:
88 (F13) - WKL, WK
87 (F12) - WKL, WK
60 - WKL, WK, HHKB
►Colors: Grey, Wine, Pink, Lilac
►Typing angle:
►Materials: 6063 Anodized aluminum body, brass internal weight, stainless steel accent weight
►Mount: Proprietary injection molded gasket
►Front height: 18mm
►Unbuilt Weight: Approx 5.8lbs (TKL), 3.5lbs (60)
►PCB: Hineybush H88, H87, H60 + Unified Daughterboard
►Includes: Hard-case, microfiber, QR assembly guide, MDPC-X JST, 60A stock gasket + polycarbonate full plate
►Price: $490 - $605

Projected Groupbuy sale date: December 7th (TKL), December 17th (60%)



(Note: No renders are utilized, pictures are taken in varying degrees of diffused natural sunlight to give the buyer an accurate idea of production anodization.)







CW80 Gallery
CW60 Gallery



Skunkworxxx (LE):

►Art by EURA
►Black anodization
►Matte PVD stainless steel internal weight, accent weight
►Discrete laser engraving + numbering



➌ quantities

(Note: As a Discord specific presale has taken place in mid-August, production of all boards has already begun in order to expedite the production window. The true final count of each layout are listed to the right of each available quantity. All units unaccounted for will be sold as in-stock items post fulfillment.)

Standard
88: 148 (250 Total)
87: 180 (250 Total)
60: 342 (500 Total)

Skunkworxxx (LE)
88: 0 (100 Total)
87: 51 (100 Total)
60: 62 (100 Total)



➍ typing tests



Additional typing tests:
Alexotos - JWICK (87)
YEFFY - Nixies (60)
Aerysten - Vintage MX Black (88)
Aerysten - Zykos (60)
xinxinwong - Black Ink (88)
Cobertt - NK Creams (88)
Relapse - Nylon JWK (80)
Relapse - Zykos (60)



➎ add-ons:




As modularity is an important part of this project, I'm offering a handful of easily swappable pieces as selected by my Discord community. All items ship inside the top pocket of the included hard-case with no additional shipping charge. Following the completion of your board purchase, add-ons will be made in a separate order and the two will be merged together for streamlined fulfillment.

Groupbuy add-ons: Polycarbonate plate (Full/Half), aluminum plate (Full/Half), brushed stainless steel bottom plate, matte carbon-fiber bottom plate, additional gaskets (60A/40A/20A), additional PCBs

Post-groupbuy add-ons: Additional plate types(Fr4/POM/Polypropylene), plateless adapter, alternate weights with different engravings (EURA collaboration), fixed cable accent piece (Coaxius collaboration), different contrast bottom plates, wrist-rests, desk mat.



➏ production + fulfillment

All units are produced and finished by Dadesin (DDS) and fulfilled by a Shenzhen based fulfillment center in order to avoid sea freight. If COVID restrictions permit, our team will QC and SKU all components collaboratively alongside DDS to ensure a rigorous quality standard before they are packed. In the event that travel limitations have not been lifted by the end of the production window a third-party, hobby savvy control team will ensure our quality standards are met and your order arrives accurately from Shenzhen.

Production has been prepaid for the entirety of this project via a private presale and my own personal investment. As of the day of this posting (11/12) production has been under way on all non-variable components (case bottoms, weights, bottom panels) for the better half of two months. Fulfillment will be split up into multiple sequences as described below:


(Note: Despite all steps being taken to mitigate production, there's always a potential for delay as with any groupbuy.)

Sequence One: Presale units + first groupbuy orders - February 18th, 2022
Sequence Two: Remaining groupbuy units - April 18th, 2022



➐ project log

All logs and significant updates will be posted within this format to ensure transparency:

Update No. 1 - Refinements and Revisions (August 19th, 2021)
Update No. 2 - Production Photos (November 9th, 2021)



➑ FAQ

Can I buy more than one board?
Yes. As the TKL and 60 groupbuys occur on differing dates, I consider these two separate purchases and allow for one TKL and one 60. For fulfillment sake I cannot combine two boards into the same shipment.

Will plate files be made public?
Yes.

Can I get _ feature/color/finishing/engravings?
Beyond what is listed you’re free to contact me for commission services, otherwise no.

What’s with your name?
This is a moniker I’ve used throughout various creative endeavors. There’s no deeper meaning.

This looks like _, this is a clone!
Call it what you want, I’m indifferent to rectangle politics.

Will there be an R2?
No. While making this has been a blast, I'm quite eager to introduce other projects I'm working on.

What happened to the polycarbonate version of this project?
As some might remember this started out some time ago as a polycarbonate project with a much simpler case design. Unhappy with my previous manufacturers QC and communication I used this opportunity to redesign this entirely to integrate a bunch of features while retaining the same case shape and mounting style. I plan on revisiting polycarbonate in the future, though no official date has been set.

Why is this expensive?
This is understandably one of the most asked questions since starting this project. From a fabrication and logistics perspective this project utilizes a generous amount of stock material, a relatively low unit count when considering there are three different models offered, complex internal machining, a very competent manufacturer, a secondary manufacturing process for the mounting style and a fulfillment process responsible for 35 different SKU variations.



♥ special thanks ♥

My awesome rep, Coaxius Cables, Hineybush, EURA, the local NYC community (it was sick meeting a lot of you), Puddsy, Grimm, Vephix, Birckenthot, hell, filledtypes, chunk, Alexotos, Relapse, YEFFY, Aerysten, liberator, yui, Cobertt, IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES, Ninjapirate, Taicho, Lau, anybody who bought an FNF unit from me and the entirety of my very awesome Discord community.

You’ve all contributed to this project in some way - be it moderation, critical feedback, community insight, motivation or just being a generally awesome person.


« Last Edit: Sun, 28 November 2021, 17:39:11 by cruelworld »

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 14:50:27 »
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Very busy with studies atm.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 14:54:42 »
Very lit  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 14:56:01 »
whew that skunkworxxx looks incredible

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:00:48 »
Been tracking these boards for a while and comparing them to other high end keyboards. Letís just say I finally found my endgame.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:02:42 »
Excited to see the GB post finally up. Have been enjoying my CW80 for some time now, great feel and sound. Looking forward to purchasing additional plate options (mostly PP...  ;)).

Post is really in-depth and offers a lot of transparency! This is highly appreciated.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:07:46 »
Itís here! Gimme that wine CW80  :p

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:11:46 »
Much love for you and your projects.  Wishing you the best on the group buy.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:13:03 »
Super exciting! These boards are extremely well made, beautiful, and a joy to type on. Top job on these really. Canít wait. Love you dude.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:15:47 »
Super cool person when I was asking questions about the board. Colors are killer, might have to pick a pink board up

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:16:34 »
Great boards, great guy.

Love my CW88 so much, I bought 2.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:20:27 »
Good luck with the public sale CW! Canít wait for my cw88

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:27:31 »
Wickle Tickle goated! GL on the GB, excited for my 60 and 88 to come in.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:28:14 »
This keyboard is damn good. Appreciate the things youíve done for me, my friends and this community thus far.

Wishing you the best of luck on the public Groupbuy!

Love you homie 🖤

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:31:36 »
Don't sleep on this one.
All the HHKBs

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:34:12 »
Been watching the  streams and have been fortunate enough to type on one that was built for a stream. Cannot wait for this board. Better than the hype for sure.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:51:05 »
Very excited for my CW88 unit!! Love this board already.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 15:55:50 »
I'm loving this - fantastic work cruelworld! Hopeful to snag 88 WK  :D

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:04:41 »
Can't wait! Missed presale but will not miss GB!

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:06:07 »
wao i remember seeing the ic for the polycarbonate version of the 60%. joined your discord for pc then and saw the alu version. those colours :eek: that purple.

glad i was able to hop on the discord early sale  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:09:02 by surplusofchairs »

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:17:41 »
Relief that the price here is at least justified by using Dadesin unlike a certain other designer pricing their 65 & 60 boards at Dadesin levels but using a much cheaper factory --- it definitely showed in the quality control  :))

Have a good GB  :thumb:

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 16:55:38 »
Looks and sounds amazing - Bring on GB <3

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 17:21:26 »
Already in for a 60 and an 80. Stoked for these. Good luck on the GB!

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 17:46:50 »
been waiting a while for this board, will be picking up the wkl 88 in black

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 17:50:38 »
very good board. i have the wine color 87 proto in the pictures. glwgb
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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 18:50:34 »
it's so good to see this in GB!! I've been following since the original IC and stupidly passed on the discord presale, but I think I might go in for a lilac! Either way, GLWGB and all the best <3

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 18:55:29 »
Imagine not getting one of these.

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 19:18:33 »
I love  :p :p :p :p ;D great work act

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 19:29:02 »
Oh man can't wait for this!

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 19:53:46 »
Love the number of protos and photos included for this GB. Best wishes on this buy!
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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 November 2021, 22:30:53 »
I just want to throw up some mad support for CW.

I participated in one of the early rounds and everything CW has done throughout this process has been above and beyond from paying for air shipping during COVID out of pocket to graciously letting me swap colors of boards after delivery (not saying that he would do this for everyone, I think he just happened to have an extra in the color that I wanted more).

Even though I have a CW88 in hand, I'm going to doing the GB for the CW60 and maybe pick up another CW88 in a different color.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 16 November 2021, 03:41:40 »
Been following this guy since his polycarb posting early last year... At the time, I was looking for some sort of HHKB-style layout keeb that wasn't necessarily mass-produced. CW's keebs were what first popped up. So, I joined his Discord... and the rest is history.

I never could have imagined how dedicated and detailed Cruel World's keyboards would turn out to be. I am ridiculously lucky to have witnessed the rebirth/rework of this project into something that likely will meet or *exceed* what Keycult and TGR produce.

I'm lucky to have grabbed a Skunkworks CW60 during the presale. And I am eager to see what comes next!

Excellent rectangles. Very good plate files. Good luck with Group Buy. ;D

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 16 November 2021, 08:29:17 »
Excited for the collaboration with Eura and hoping my budget allows me to get a cw80 when the GB starts. Love these boards.

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 16 November 2021, 20:27:40 »
the best board. no doubt. no regret getting it  :thumb: :thumb:

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 16 November 2021, 23:18:52 »
can't wait to see the other custom add ons! excited for my wine 88.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 18 November 2021, 13:26:58 »
Hotter than hot, heard the guy running this is pretty hot too.

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 19 November 2021, 01:49:41 »
Iím indifferent to rectangle politics.
This has to be the biggest joke I've heard all day. Still, good luck to you with fulfillment, and good luck everyone. Boards are hot  ;)
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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 22 November 2021, 08:31:24 »
Dates adjusted slightly to account for some minor delays due to the upcoming holiday.

Appreciate all of your kind words and patience, have a great week! ♥
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 November 2021, 10:33:03 by cruelworld »

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 23 November 2021, 19:20:11 »
Man I said I'd grab the CW88 but I am hard leaning towards the HHKB in that beautiful red. Either way good luck with the GB, can't wait to join!
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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 24 November 2021, 04:07:18 »
What is the reason for this number of mounting holes?  ;)

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Re: [GB] cw80/60 by cruel world
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 26 November 2021, 10:35:23 »
What is the reason for this number of mounting holes?  ;)
The mounting points are similar to what you'd find on most modern Jane inspired plates, the screw points have just been replaced with gasket mounting tabs.

If you're referring to the screw holes on the back of the board, there's a set for holding the case together and a set to hold bottom plate to the bottom of the case.