5mm Polycarbonate
Buy will stay open 4 weeks or until all are sold.
Yessssss. Is this fcfs?
220 with hhkb blockers when?
5mm Polycarbonate
y u do dis to me
Any pics of the plate mounting? Curious what your research has yielded.
Posting to express appreciation for the unusual color offerings and the pink!
220 with hhkb blockers when?
Yessssss. Is this fcfs?
wish this was available when i was in the market for a TKL!
nice work
Do the first 30 still get a special numbered edition?
Do you plan to have a countdown timer?
I'm assuming 6061? Or is 7075 an option?just 6061
Pardon me for not quite understanding, but does this mean that I only need one of the options below the PCB, bare minimum?
Pardon me for not quite understanding, but does this mean that I only need one of the options below the PCB, bare minimum?
5mm brass 220 when?!
I'm assuming 6061? Or is 7075 an option?
Well dang, first GB gonna put 850$ in...
Any chance the polycarb will be frosted?
Pardon me for not quite understanding, but does this mean that I only need one of the options below the PCB, bare minimum?
is a sample of colors possible before the GB starts?
I'd love to see a color sample of the crimson red on aluminum. The color swatch looks kinda meh.
Really tempted to try and snag one of those..! :)
Is there an special advantage to a partial plate? Or does it just give a different feeling / typing experience?
I thought I read something about cerakote as a finish option, did you toss this idea or do I mix something up?
Will any other PCB work on this board? Have extra PCBs so wanna see if the 3 plates I'm getting will need 3 PCBs from here as well.
Pictures in OP!
Album here: https://imgur.com/a/48QIsgs
Does this support RGB switches?
Stupid question but are the stabilizers required for this 4x2u and 1x7u PCB mounted?
hey Xondat, as the designer of this keyboard(s)- which layout,color,plate options would you choose? They are all great choices but I'm always interested in what the designer's personal pick would be.
ah yeah, i remember seeing you post that on the "post your all-time.." thread. Thanks!hey Xondat, as the designer of this keyboard(s)- which layout,color,plate options would you choose? They are all great choices but I'm always interested in what the designer's personal pick would be.
Blue Gray case, Fixed Layout on Partial Polycarbonate :p
This combination goes back to my favorite ever keyboard found here (http://www.mechblog.org/post/112315513039/otd-3562-switches-mx-clear-62g-gold-spring).
saw nothing about a paypal fee in the description, so would it be correct to assume there isn't one?
0.1% skamSo you're saying there's a chance...?
Really tempted to try and snag one of those..! :)
Is there an special advantage to a partial plate? Or does it just give a different feeling / typing experience?
It means you get to use no plate on the alphas keys. So it's PCB mounted instead of plate mounted, which considerably changes the feeling. It's preference -- I'd give it a try though.
Really tempted to try and snag one of those..! :)
Is there an special advantage to a partial plate? Or does it just give a different feeling / typing experience?
It means you get to use no plate on the alphas keys. So it's PCB mounted instead of plate mounted, which considerably changes the feeling. It's preference -- I'd give it a try though.
To add to this, it gives (ime) some added springy feedback to the keypresses -- a bit more tactile feedback and you can feel keypresses made on one side of the board with your hand on the other side of the board. For tactile switches I think this enhances the feedback of each keypress and makes the whole thing feel more lively. For linears it makes bottoming out far less harsh without being mushy, it retains the crisp feeling of linears, however each press is less isolated and "pure". With light linears (62g or less) and a poly or partial poly plate on linears bottoming out feels almost like not bottoming out on something with heavy tactility like Clears or buckling spring.
The sound is also much higher pitched, especially with ABS caps.
I'd imagine that polycarbonate plates maintain a deeper, lower pitched sound but people with more experience can hopefully answer this for you.Really tempted to try and snag one of those..! :)
Is there an special advantage to a partial plate? Or does it just give a different feeling / typing experience?
It means you get to use no plate on the alphas keys. So it's PCB mounted instead of plate mounted, which considerably changes the feeling. It's preference -- I'd give it a try though.
To add to this, it gives (ime) some added springy feedback to the keypresses -- a bit more tactile feedback and you can feel keypresses made on one side of the board with your hand on the other side of the board. For tactile switches I think this enhances the feedback of each keypress and makes the whole thing feel more lively. For linears it makes bottoming out far less harsh without being mushy, it retains the crisp feeling of linears, however each press is less isolated and "pure". With light linears (62g or less) and a poly or partial poly plate on linears bottoming out feels almost like not bottoming out on something with heavy tactility like Clears or buckling spring.
The sound is also much higher pitched, especially with ABS caps.
Interesting. I really like the deep bassy sounds of vint blacks though I'm not really sure what kind of plate would contribute to that kind of sound. Would brass give it a deeper sound or is that higher pitched as well? At any rate, I'll probably pick up a few extra plates and pcbs granted it's an option.
inb4 xondat falls under a coma :monkaS:0.1% skamSo you're saying there's a chance...?
Interesting. I really like the deep bassy sounds of vint blacks though I'm not really sure what kind of plate would contribute to that kind of sound. Would brass give it a deeper sound or is that higher pitched as well? At any rate, I'll probably pick up a few extra plates and pcbs granted it's an option.I'd imagine that polycarbonate plates maintain a deeper, lower pitched sound but people with more experience can hopefully answer this for you.
That board / those pics have been a personal favourite of mine for a long while.. we have good taste ;)Stupid question but are the stabilizers required for this 4x2u and 1x7u PCB mounted?
For Fixed on 280 you'll need that, yes.hey Xondat, as the designer of this keyboard(s)- which layout,color,plate options would you choose? They are all great choices but I'm always interested in what the designer's personal pick would be.
Blue Gray case, Fixed Layout on Partial Polycarbonate :p
This combination goes back to my favorite ever keyboard found here (http://www.mechblog.org/post/112315513039/otd-3562-switches-mx-clear-62g-gold-spring).
That board / those pics have been a personal favourite of mine for a long while.. we have good taste ;)
The proto’s turned out spectacularly, the reduced height at the front was a genius idea.
My mannn, 65 for the poly partial :’( (I know you had issues pricing these or even getting enough interest, but I’m glad they’re an option!)
Looking banging sir
Love my x60 and looks like you went to the next level with this
can you buy 220 without buying 280?
Also just so it's noted/clarified:
If demand for 220 exceeds slots available, I will make the normal one 220 (& make it unlimited/limited to 100), and there will be a few 220 S available.
For now, the only difference is numbering, but the weight may change on 220 S to separate it.
Also thanks for all the interest, means a lot :-*
can you buy 220 without buying 280?
Can anyone comment on what 5mm brass and 5mm polycarbonate feels like?
Another dumb question. Do the PCBs have diodes/controller etc already?
Can anyone comment on what 5mm brass and 5mm polycarbonate feels like?
Nobody knows! I think Xondat said he will have some samples he will try out somewhat soon though.
Xondat says to post something here. I did.
testTest confirmed.
testTest confirmed.
xondat may be occupied with the Royal Wedding.
Just so it's out here:
220 form will be linked after 15 minutes so there is no advantage/disadvantage to anyone :-*
Oh I'm also adding Brass and Polycarbonate options to 220. Same price. Gotta match that 280.
Just so it's out here:
220 form will be linked after 15 minutes so there is no advantage/disadvantage to anyone :-*
Oh I'm also adding Brass and Polycarbonate options to 220. Same price. Gotta match that 280.
Are these 5mm options on the 220?
Will the form be up early and incompleteable until time or we gonna be refreshing page1?
good work, everyone. now what do we dump money into next?
To quote a man greater than I,good work, everyone. now what do we dump money into next?
220
To quote a man greater than I,good work, everyone. now what do we dump money into next?
220
No.
Will all the boards be numbered?
Will all the boards be numbered?
None will be
If we got in and made a choice in a panic, are we allowed to contact you to have this changed?
Thank you sir!If we got in and made a choice in a panic, are we allowed to contact you to have this changed?
We'll do this whilst confirming all the options :thumb:
I'll probably have a sheet up and people can say in my Discord server if they need anything changing.
totally hoped I made it on time to get one of these, if only I had weekends off...How do you know if you did?
How do you know if you did?Wait for the order check form and/or invoice
I didn't even know these things went fast or were timed. I just happened to come in and order like half an hour after the gb links were posted by pure accident. Cool.It's not so much that they're timed, as there was only a limited number of slots, and a lot more demand for the board.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MJgPgtl.png)
On a more serious note, really hyped for this board and I'm surprised it took so long to sell out...I guess other GBs gave a good beating to some of our wallets
Am super interested with the case machined from 7075, just to make this endgame... with an already overkill 5mm brass plate, why not? :eek:
How do we edit our order? :thumb:Wednesday or Thursday I think, via discord chat or something.
How do we edit our order? :thumb:
How do we edit our order? :thumb:
If you aren't on discord you should join, that is where he does most of the updates. Xondat is going to be reconfirming all orders later this week and no changes will be accepted before then. Once he's contacted everyone (he said chat, so again i assume discord) then you will be able to make changes. The payment window is gonna be several weeks though the sooner everyone pays the better.
Anyway, join discord: https://discord.gg/N2aNvqN
I am new to this Discord thing. I am very old, senile with very little social media skills, I setup an account and joined the server but I can't send messages or see messages in the group. Pls halp.
Hey bud, server is closed today, check in tomorrow! I was confused too!
(xondat took the day off)
I am new to this Discord thing. I am very old, senile with very little social media skills, I setup an account and joined the server but I can't send messages or see messages in the group. Pls halp.
I guess if it's closed today you can't ask for roles, because it says I don't permission to post there. Never tried discord, not even sure what it is. A website-based version of like what Teamspeak used to be with private servers?I am new to this Discord thing. I am very old, senile with very little social media skills, I setup an account and joined the server but I can't send messages or see messages in the group. Pls halp.
Gotta request roles in the role request channel.
So like “Request 280” or “Request 220” etc in that channel. Then xondat will add the roles and you will get access to the relevant channels and stuff.
I guess if it's closed today you can't ask for roles, because it says I don't permission to post there. Never tried discord, not even sure what it is. A website-based version of like what Teamspeak used to be with private servers?Yeah, the server's 'closed' at the moment as xondat is taking the day off. There's a software version of Discord you can install if you want.
I guess if it's closed today you can't ask for roles, because it says I don't permission to post there. Never tried discord, not even sure what it is. A website-based version of like what Teamspeak used to be with private servers?Yeah, the server's 'closed' at the moment as xondat is taking the day off. There's a software version of Discord you can install if you want.
Is there a final date when the 220 form will be closed?
@Xondat : sent you a PM
Would there be any typing video of 5mm brass ?
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Hi all, please see the following two forms to confirm the options you chose.
Fill this out EXACTLY as you'd want to be invoiced.
I will get the rest of the typing videos up tomorrow, so if you're waiting on these before truly deciding what you want, please do not fill the form out.
If you have already made your mind up, please fill the forms out ASAP. Invoicing will begin tomorrow.
Thank you to those that answered whilst I had a short break, and also thanks for your patience <3
280: https://goo.gl/forms/r4mtJ1rThZkWqQn02
220: https://goo.gl/forms/UATV4nAfl1Eo7Kd02
1.5mm Polycarbonate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py3AqkEo3MQ)
5mm Polycarbonate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9GPzYf3ss)
@Xondat : sent you a PM
It's better and easier (for both parties) to send him a DM on discord. Join his server if you haven't already. Going to noxary.co will give you an invite to the server.
ClydeBOT - Aujourd'hui à 17:18
Votre message n'a pas pu être envoyé car vous et le destinataire n'êtes pas présents sur un même serveur, ou vous avez désactivé la fonction de messages privés sur ce même serveur, ou le destinataire n'accepte de messages privés que venant d'amis, ou vous avez été bloqué par le destinataire.
Filled the form out a few days ago for a drop out spot, but I'm not on the spreadsheet.
Filled the form out a few days ago for a drop out spot, but I'm not on the spreadsheet.
Should be there now, fill the form linked above out because people drop out :p
As per title, there are 6 slots left. Make sure to get one if you're on the edge :p
As per title, there are 6 slots left. Make sure to get one if you're on the edge :p
Which form should I fill out if I would still like to get a 280?
As per title, there are 6 slots left. Make sure to get one if you're on the edge :p
Which form should I fill out if I would still like to get a 280?
The form in the main post :D
As per title, there are 6 slots left. Make sure to get one if you're on the edge :p
Which form should I fill out if I would still like to get a 280?
The form in the main post :D
The form seems to be closed?
If we enter info into the form now when will we receive invoice? :Denter and find out
If we enter info into the form now when will we receive invoice? :D
Ooh I got one!
I assume that the universal brass will support both MX and Alps? Then would the PCB also support Alps?
Ooh I got one!
I assume that the universal brass will support both MX and Alps? Then would the PCB also support Alps?
Universal refers to covering the most common key layouts (ISO, ANSI, Winkeyless and standard TKL, stepped and non-stepped capslock, split right shift and split backspace). AFAIK this board is MX only.
Ooh I got one!
I assume that the universal brass will support both MX and Alps? Then would the PCB also support Alps?
Providing the remaining 35 or so pay, then all slots for 280 are gone. If some go unpaid, then I'll probably just sell the rest afterwards.
Thanks all!!Ooh I got one!
I assume that the universal brass will support both MX and Alps? Then would the PCB also support Alps?
No Alps support since I don't fully understand it yet, sorry!
Anyone else having issues with not getting the Discord channel after already having it? I know xondat pinned last week about a list of names and asking people to change their tags which I did to match my GH tag for now. Did a new request although not getting the channels still.
Not sure if GH PMs are functional yet... If you need to contact me, Discord - xondat#8433, or email support@noxary.co
Thanks.
Wristrest for 280 in frosted polycarbonate for a bit of fun.
Form: https://goo.gl/forms/fzPNXuppiOcUKw6v2
Open for two weeks.
Same finish as belowShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/udOP6mO.jpg)
Why not just ask for a brass wrist rest at that point lulWristrest for 280 in frosted polycarbonate for a bit of fun.
Form: https://goo.gl/forms/fzPNXuppiOcUKw6v2
Open for two weeks.
Same finish as belowShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/udOP6mO.jpg)
Can we have a wrist wrest with brass weight? :eek:
Because that would be a multi hundred dollar wrist rest.Why not just ask for a brass wrist rest at that point lulWristrest for 280 in frosted polycarbonate for a bit of fun.
Form: https://goo.gl/forms/fzPNXuppiOcUKw6v2
Open for two weeks.
Same finish as belowShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/udOP6mO.jpg)
Can we have a wrist wrest with brass weight? :eek:
Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Probably whenever xondat does his V3 series, or when a certain plastic meme version comes out.Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Uh I might do a polycarbonate version, but for this exact design, you won't see it again :(
Solid gold 280 next?Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Uh I might do a polycarbonate version, but for this exact design, you won't see it again :(
Gold? LUL. Try tungstenSolid gold 280 next?Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Uh I might do a polycarbonate version, but for this exact design, you won't see it again :(
Invoicing done for 280 and 220.
If everyone could get them paid ASAP, it'd be much appreciated. Most are paid for anyway.
Thank you so much for the support. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Don't mean to intrude but was wondering if there are any opportunities for another run at the 280?
Uh I might do a polycarbonate version, but for this exact design, you won't see it again :(
There don't happen to be any extras or people who want to sell their slot is there? :'(
Damn, I'm liking that crimson red now. :thumb:
hey xondat i've sent you a pm and an email about confirming my color choices. i hope you get a chance to respond soon. :)
hey xondat i've sent you a pm and an email about confirming my color choices. i hope you get a chance to respond soon. :)
Discord Is also a great way to contact him. If you aren't in the Noxary discord server I urge you to join it.
hey xondat i've sent you a pm and an email about confirming my color choices. i hope you get a chance to respond soon. :)
why not just Titanium :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/jHpmuRS.jpg)
Is a color confirmation form still planned or should we send PMs to do that?
Is a color confirmation form still planned or should we send PMs to do that?
that form was put out shortly after the gb/payment time ended.
Ordered the 2nd prototypes, will put a date to it when the factory gives me one. Also ordered a new Olive sample. I'll have the color changes form up in the next couple of days.
Still on good pace anyway :thumb:
Also, apologies for my mistake in the OP. I noted late August shipping time, but I've had September in my mind. Anyway, we'll see when the factory says. :)
Also, apologies for my mistake in the OP. I noted late August shipping time, but I've had September in my mind. Anyway, we'll see when the factory says. :)
Any olive pics to share?
By the way, 220 is still available to order since they're unlimited. I also have added 5mm options to the form. :pYou mean 5mm plates for the 220? Can we upgrade to those?
By the way, 220 is still available to order since they're unlimited. I also have added 5mm options to the form. :p
You mean 5mm plates for the 220? Can we upgrade to those?
any updates on the wrist rest?
I don't remember, the wrist rest is shipping first rather than everything together, right?
I don't remember, the wrist rest is shipping first rather than everything together, right?
Iirc shipping first.
ETA on the color sample and when we can change color?
Looks like the BSP Tulip isn't going to happen anytime soon (http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031). What to put on my Blue-Gray 280 now? Modern Dolch? GMK Muted? 9009?
Yup that would have been nice. Too bad the group buy ended before Hammer team let people know. I also think Serika might have looked nice on it.Looks like the BSP Tulip isn't going to happen anytime soon (http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031). What to put on my Blue-Gray 280 now? Modern Dolch? GMK Muted? 9009?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Mq2W4gC.jpg)
Looks like the BSP Tulip isn't going to happen anytime soon (http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031). What to put on my Blue-Gray 280 now? Modern Dolch? GMK Muted? 9009?
9009 is always the answerGMK Handarbeit is always the answer
The green looks a lot better. I think I’ve had more of an army green in mind though so I’ll have to think on it. Any chance of photos with that green sample next to some GMK caps. Maybe muted w green pink accents, 9009 with accents, Camping, Royal Alpha (I know it’s olive and not green but it would help me gauge the color better.
Do you happen to have the updated spreadsheet?
Do you happen to have the updated spreadsheet?
Updated now :)
Do you happen to have the updated spreadsheet?
Updated now :)
Thanks! :thumb:
The 220 one says I ordered the brass universal plate, but I upgraded to the 5mm one. I just wanna make sure I get the right one ;D
Do you happen to have the updated spreadsheet?
Updated now :)
Thanks! :thumb:
The 220 one says I ordered the brass universal plate, but I upgraded to the 5mm one. I just wanna make sure I get the right one ;D
Ah my bad, the payment thing confused me and I forgot. Updated now ^-^
The green looks a lot better. I think I’ve had more of an army green in mind though so I’ll have to think on it. Any chance of photos with that green sample next to some GMK caps. Maybe muted w green pink accents, 9009 with accents, Camping, Royal Alpha (I know it’s olive and not green but it would help me gauge the color better.
I have 9009 accents so can post with those tomorrow :)
EXCITED! I won‘t change my color, even tho the olive green really looks nice!
Two things are not correct on my orderd
- I ordered 3 PCBs (instead of the now 2)
- I also ordered 2 7u stabs (it says 0 atm)
Thanks a lot!
Submitted the color change yesterday, guessing the sheet will get updated?
For updates to orders such as adding additional plates and PCBs. Should we PM you here or message on discord?
For the record, I already messaged on discord but if all last minute additions should be via PM then I'll gladly PM.
Waiting to see some 9009 on the green before I decide on changes
Waiting to see some 9009 on the green before I decide on changesShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438429095303315456/489810052606197790/image0.jpg)
Dunno when you updated the spreadsheet (or if you have at all), but I answered the form and changed color to Crimson red 2 days ago (?) but it is still Blue gray on the spreadsheet, would be appreciated if you could tell me if you haven't had time to update the spreadsheet<3
What's the tentative timely now?There isn't one yet.
The forms are still open for me but i assume this is closed by now ? Im kinda late LOL
What's the tentative timely now?
The forms are still open for me but i assume this is closed by now ? Im kinda late LOL
Still open because people drop out, probably able to pick a spot up, although I haven't checked the forms in a while.What's the tentative timely now?
Been working on it, but having some irl problems right now which is taking a lot of time/mental space. I want to have these in production by the end of the month so will update then.
Everything should ship late September without delays!
Hi xondat,
Can you get back to me on my PM regarding my slot?
Thanks
Hi xondat,
i also sent you a PM regarding available slots.
Thanks
Did you really just say "still waiting", when you've been taking up to a week+ to respond to people's issues or flat out ignore them, and only just yesterday replied to me?
Furthermore, you only replied to tell me to message you on Discord. What's wrong with using geekhack? I'm really not a fan of Discord and I'd prefer keeping GH GB related issues on geekhack.
Hi Xondat, Did these ever enter production? Is there a clear timeline yet?
Will we see these by November? Ideally would like to see these before the 180 day paypal dispute window closes.
I think it's too early to comment but the invoices can always be redone so it's extended.What's the process for getting the invoices redone/extended?
I think it's too early to comment but the invoices can always be redone so it's extended.What's the process for getting the invoices redone/extended?
I'm interested. Will PMs go out as email, or do I need to keep an eye on geekhack or discord for PMs?
Just sent a PM, need to change my address.
Just sent a PM, need to change my address.
Shipping is invoiced later on, with which you enter your final address AFAIK. So should be irrelevant for now.
Bad news inc.
I got the hex keys and was testing the threads out. M2 screws do not fit into the bottom pieces. I asked my contact and he said "The holes are M2 threaded holes, the loose problem must be caused by several times anodizing".
This applies to all bottom pieces unfortunately. I'll be sending them back and they'll make new replacements.
As a general statement, I won't be using this factory again, although I think that goes without saying.
I've had a few people ask me if these are in production, so I want to clarify/make it clear:
280/220 are in production. I'm expecting an ETA when they complete more parts and have a better idea :)
Yeah what Adam said.
Also I'll have a form up shortly regarding invoice extending. Thanks.
Oh for some reason, my geekhack user info is listed as alkaiser04 instead of just alkaiser. I filled out the form just now :)
Hi Xondat, Once we pay the new invoice how long will will we have to wait to receive the refund for the original invoice?
if I don't opt for a refresh are you saying that I cannot get a refund no matter what happens?
I filled out the form to "refresh" like a week ago. Is this something that will happen in the future? Is there further action I am supposed to take?
So we got invoices now and you expect us to pay them again without you refunding us first?
So instead of 600 usd i would have 1200 usd stuck with you for no reason?
Is there some joke i don't get?
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After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappearsI guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.
You do understand that he refunds your original invoice right? I was refunded within 3 minutesAfter 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappearsI guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.
Now that I think about it why would we need a refund? Is the project not going through? I'll risk the paypal fees I guess, I didn't realize what the refresh was. I paid on May 23.
After 6 months PP does not provide any support to get refunds. You would be totally on your own. This is a way to ensure that you are able to get a refund even if Xondat disappears
I guess I'll risk $550 rather than $1100. He's done group buys before, I'll assume he won't disappear.
Dammit, at current exchange rates I'm paying £20 more for the extra protection.....
Dammit, at current exchange rates I'm paying £20 more for the extra protection.....
so I entered the GB for the 220 because I wanted a custom numpad, but in the process, I've recently procured another custom numpad (and 1 that comes with a matching tkl), so I no longer want this one. If any one is interested please let me know, I'd be happy to transfer my slot to you. I've already spoken to Xondat about this, which is why I'm posting here in the thread. Please PM me here, first come first served basis.
Selling my spot: 280 WKL Blue Gray, 5mm Brass, 1x PCB, 2x 7U stabs
Where are we on this in terms of production?
When do we expect these to ship?
When do we expect these to ship?
When do we expect these to ship?
My bad for missing this..
In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.
When do we expect these to ship?
My bad for missing this..
In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.
Dang... wasn't original shipping estimate november 2018?
When do we expect these to ship?
My bad for missing this..
In batches throughout Q2 is my best estimate.
Dang... wasn't original shipping estimate november 2018?
wanted to bump this for more visibility. Anything new to report?
Anything to update on this?
Is there an update as to when wrist rests will be shipped?
Anything to update on this?
Factory just got back from CNY and we've been discussing X60 R results in full to get the best out of this :)
Anything to update on this?
Factory just got back from CNY and we've been discussing X60 R results in full to get the best out of this :)
How far are they along, did they CNC the cases or did they serialize production and basically that means X60R will need to be fully complete before 280 starts?
Communication sucks so hard here....
I think you're doing fine but I am under the understanding that our updates will be few and far between until your other GB(s) wrap up. As long as we are inside the PayPal window I am fine with waiting.
Is a late March shipping still a somewhat accurate estimate?
Hi xondat, can you elaborate on what that means in terms of timing? Is that going to push the GB delivery a week, a month, a quarter, etc..Is a late March shipping still a somewhat accurate estimate?
Nah. We've been talking about improving anodizing, specifically the color matching, since I wasn't 100% happy with their previous stuff. I have more confidence than before, but we're still going to discuss the final outcome once I get feedback from everyone.
Hi xondat, can you elaborate on what that means in terms of timing? Is that going to push the GB delivery a week, a month, a quarter, etc..Is a late March shipping still a somewhat accurate estimate?
Nah. We've been talking about improving anodizing, specifically the color matching, since I wasn't 100% happy with their previous stuff. I have more confidence than before, but we're still going to discuss the final outcome once I get feedback from everyone.
Gotcha👍Hi xondat, can you elaborate on what that means in terms of timing? Is that going to push the GB delivery a week, a month, a quarter, etc..Is a late March shipping still a somewhat accurate estimate?
Nah. We've been talking about improving anodizing, specifically the color matching, since I wasn't 100% happy with their previous stuff. I have more confidence than before, but we're still going to discuss the final outcome once I get feedback from everyone.
A month? R should be done next week so will have final feedback and can approve then.
Rs have been arriving and feedback is good. Will pass that onto the manufacturer and move forward with production & update with ETA when everything with confirmed.
Gotcha👍Hi xondat, can you elaborate on what that means in terms of timing? Is that going to push the GB delivery a week, a month, a quarter, etc..Is a late March shipping still a somewhat accurate estimate?
Nah. We've been talking about improving anodizing, specifically the color matching, since I wasn't 100% happy with their previous stuff. I have more confidence than before, but we're still going to discuss the final outcome once I get feedback from everyone.
A month? R should be done next week so will have final feedback and can approve then.
It's been one long ride through X60 and X60R. Looks like the wait paid off.Hi Xondat, is this the same factory that is doing the blue-gray ano for the 280? Are we likely to have the same color matching issues with blue-gray? thanksShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/oqk1K7a.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PJKyKXC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/udUPBXZ.jpg)
As a blue gray case, mine lost the colour matching lottery; the bottom piece is more blue and the top is more gray. Doesn't bother me though; I just think of it as giving the board personality :))
It's been one long ride through X60 and X60R. Looks like the wait paid off.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oqk1K7a.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PJKyKXC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/udUPBXZ.jpg)
As a blue gray case, mine lost the colour matching lottery; the bottom piece is more blue and the top is more gray. Doesn't bother me though; I just think of it as giving the board personality :))
Hi Xondat, is this the same factory that is doing the blue-gray ano for the 280? Are we likely to have the same color matching issues with blue-gray? thanks
Hi Xondat, is this the same factory that is doing the blue-gray ano for the 280? Are we likely to have the same color matching issues with blue-gray? thanks
Hey, it is, however they've told me the color matching has been significantly improved. I'll also be getting production samples before approving shipping them all to me to make sure this won't happen again.
With the X60 R completed, can we expect wrist rests to be shipped anytime soon?
what happened to all the photos in op?
With the X60 R completed, can we expect wrist rests to be shipped anytime soon?
I will be shipping early next month, will send shipping invoices/form late this month.
Will have a project update at the end of this month and detail a lot of stuff that's been happening :thumb:
what happened to all the photos in op?
what happened to all the photos in op?
Not sure to be honest, seems like others know better though.
Fixed now. :thumb:
the new blue gray (19-4028 TPX) looks a lot darker than the original pantone, but I guess you're saying that the factory colors come out a bit different than the swatches. Shame about the delay again, but as you said, better to get it right in the end.
The smokin something if they think that blue in the photos was even close. lol
The ultraviolet may not be what you intended, but it's quite lovely.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.Had to lookup the google sheet, didn't realize there was option for different top/bottom.
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
listen i know i'm a dumbass but also what the **** are you saying
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
listen i know i'm a dumbass but also what the **** are you saying
there is the hope of a puddys x xondat collab
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
listen i know i'm a dumbass but also what the **** are you saying
there is the hope of a puddys x xondat collab
we agree on stuff sometimes
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
listen i know i'm a dumbass but also what the **** are you saying
there is the hope of a puddys x xondat collab
we agree on stuff sometimes
u guys r so cute uwu
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Those colors came up on a quick google search.
I think I didn‘t quite understand what you meant in your post: Do you think the outcome of the new blue will look more like the old blue due to their „color inaccuracy“ (or whatever you would call it)? Or do you just think it will be easier for them to get the second color more accurate than they were with the first one?
Do you have a picture of the blue X60 R?
I‘m not in a hurry and the time of delivery basically doesn‘t really matter to me. I‘m just not sure yet if I‘d actually like to get the board in the new blue color.. That‘s why I am asking for clarification. :)
Thanks for the update, still looking forward to the board!
Edit: Sorry about the weird placement of the pictures, don‘t really know how to fix it on tapatalk.. ;)
i have a very serious concern. speaking with the supreme authority for all the uv/pink participants, i expect that the uv match the pink exactly. in color, hue, saturation, tint, shade, brightness, and color. anything less is unacceptable.
Could you rephrase? I don't understand.
Xondat any update on the 280 blue gray timeline?
Interested in transferring my spot.
Invoice details:Show Image(https://x0.at/oQZ.png)
With the X60 R completed, can we expect wrist rests to be shipped anytime soon?
I will be shipping early next month, will send shipping invoices/form late this month.
Will have a project update at the end of this month and detail a lot of stuff that's been happening :thumb:
Any updates?...
What's the status with this?
Still possible to order a wrist rest?
Could you elaborate on what the VAT changes mean to end user? You are hopefully no implying that I will have to pay an additional 20% VAT on a 450 USD keyboard that I paid for over a year ago and whose color needs to be changed. (Yes, I am a little grumpy about the whole thing.)I second this.
Regards
Faxe
So, blue gray still a ways off then?
Could you elaborate on what the VAT changes mean to end user? You are hopefully no implying that I will have to pay an additional 20% VAT on a 450 USD keyboard that I paid for over a year ago and whose color needs to be changed. (Yes, I am a little grumpy about the whole thing.)
I second this.
So let me get this straight as far as I get this:
I paid 450 USD for a board (with shipping to be added later, fine with that) which would have included you paying the VAT(tax), which of course you included in your calculations.
Now, you dont pay the VAT, but I will have to, effectly raising the board price by 20% (or 19% VAT in case of germany).
Do I get this right? Will you refund me the 20% VAT you calculated in your price?
So if we are in CONUS we don't need to worry about our boards being further delayed by this VAT issue? Or would they be held up with the rest of the shipment?
Unfortunately the colors have changed a little bit due to anodizing constraints.
Could you elaborate on what the VAT changes mean to end user? You are hopefully no implying that I will have to pay an additional 20% VAT on a 450 USD keyboard that I paid for over a year ago and whose color needs to be changed. (Yes, I am a little grumpy about the whole thing.)Your color does not need to be changed. Could you expand on what you mean by this?
Unfortunately the colors have changed a little bit due to anodizing constraints.Could you elaborate on what the VAT changes mean to end user? You are hopefully no implying that I will have to pay an additional 20% VAT on a 450 USD keyboard that I paid for over a year ago and whose color needs to be changed. (Yes, I am a little grumpy about the whole thing.)Your color does not need to be changed. Could you expand on what you mean by this?
Source of confusion is that line.
Do you mean the colors look different than originally planned or does that line directly tie in to the next thing you say about producing 3/4 colors, at a time?
Offering Blue Gray 280 Slot, Case, PCB, Universal Brass Plate
300 USD including paypal fees.
Once transaction is concluded I want nothing to do with this anymore, prospective buyers are responsible for any and all charges that may or may not appear afterwards.
Will throw in set of GMK Stabs and CiC stickers for free :)
Might actually be cheaper having it shipped to someone in the US and have that person undervalue & ship back to the EU for those in the EU.Show Image(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.430805439.9038/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u1.png)
Now of course, we're not doing that because we're not doing anything that would be considered 'illegal', right?
This means I'd have to pay over $10,000 USD in VAT when I shouldn't be paying any. Clear decision imo.
This means I'd have to pay over $10,000 USD in VAT when I shouldn't be paying any. Clear decision imo.
Yesn't. You do pay it initially, but recoup it #1 during sale to a EU buyer by including VAT in the price or #2 declare your exports to outside EU and then get the VAT refunded by your government as you did not collect VAT on those sales.
From what I understand, sales to countries outside of the EU do not include VAT and sales inside of the EU do include VAT.This means I'd have to pay over $10,000 USD in VAT when I shouldn't be paying any. Clear decision imo.
Yesn't. You do pay it initially, but recoup it #1 during sale to a EU buyer by including VAT in the price or #2 declare your exports to outside EU and then get the VAT refunded by your government as you did not collect VAT on those sales.
If you supply goods to a customer in another EU country who is not registered for VAT in that country and you’re responsible for delivery, this is a ‘distance sale’. The most common examples are mail order or internet sales to private individuals in another EU country.
If you sell goods or services to someone who is not VAT-registered in another EU country, you must charge VAT in the normal way, just as you would for a UK customer. You include the sale in your VAT Return for the period when the tax point takes place.
From what I understand, sales to countries outside of the EU do not include VAT and sales inside of the EU do include VAT.
From gov.uk:QuoteIf you supply goods to a customer in another EU country who is not registered for VAT in that country and you’re responsible for delivery, this is a ‘distance sale’. The most common examples are mail order or internet sales to private individuals in another EU country.QuoteIf you sell goods or services to someone who is not VAT-registered in another EU country, you must charge VAT in the normal way, just as you would for a UK customer. You include the sale in your VAT Return for the period when the tax point takes place.
source (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-exports-dispatches-and-supplying-goods-abroad#sales-in-another-eu-country-to-someone-who-is-not-vat-registered)
Edit: the price people paid for these boards did include VAT, whether you like it or not. You should not have them pay for VAT twice.
Might actually be cheaper having it shipped to someone in the US and have that person undervalue & ship back to the EU for those in the EU.Show Image(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.430805439.9038/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u1.png)
Now of course, we're not doing that because we're not doing anything that would be considered 'illegal', right?
I can ship to wherever someone wants, and all packages will be declared at full value. :thumb:
Might actually be cheaper having it shipped to someone in the US and have that person undervalue & ship back to the EU for those in the EU.Show Image(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.430805439.9038/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u1.png)
Now of course, we're not doing that because we're not doing anything that would be considered 'illegal', right?
I can ship to wherever someone wants, and all packages will be declared at full value. :thumb:
Declared at full value? Come on, most runners have made tons of GBs declaring the boards for lower than full value and had no issues whatsoever. I’m not interested in paying 50% import taxes on +$700. I love the design and have waited patiently for long enough, and this is a huge slap to the face.
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hi xondat, i sent you a pm
Might actually be cheaper having it shipped to someone in the US and have that person undervalue & ship back to the EU for those in the EU.Show Image(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.430805439.9038/ap,550x550,12x12,1,transparent,t.u1.png)
Now of course, we're not doing that because we're not doing anything that would be considered 'illegal', right?
I can ship to wherever someone wants, and all packages will be declared at full value. :thumb:
Declared at full value? Come on, most runners have made tons of GBs declaring the boards for lower than full value and had no issues whatsoever. I’m not interested in paying 50% import taxes on +$700. I love the design and have waited patiently for long enough, and this is a huge slap to the face.
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To be fair to Xondat, iirc he's always said he won't mark down. People shouldn't enter GBs expecting the runner to break the law. And who would you expect to pay for a damaged or missing keyboard if something went awry in the post with a board declared under value?
It's not a complex issue, it's the absolute basis knowledge of how to run a business.
You shouldn't handle up to a hundred k USD or more of other people's money without knowing anything about this.
I am actually speechless, and yes it's how oblotkzi explained it.
It's not a complex issue, it's the absolute basis knowledge of how to run a business.
You shouldn't handle up to a hundred k USD or more of other people's money without knowing anything about this.
I am actually speechless, and yes it's how oblotkzi explained it.
One way of doing it is the way Oblotzky explained, but that isn't applicable to someone with the majority of non-EU exports.
As far as I understand, and I'm happy for anyone versed in EU/UK VAT law to correct me:I do not have the thousands for option 2, therefore I'm going for option 1.
- Non-EU - I prove export, no VAT is paid. Two ways to do this:
- (1) Register for zero rated VAT, pay 0% on import, prove export.
- (2) Pay 20% for all items, prove export, claim back VAT from the government.
- EU - items rated at 20% VAT, I pay VAT for the buyer.
Fairly sure I've misread information regarding the VAT for EU buyers.
It's not a complex issue, it's the absolute basis knowledge of how to run a business.
You shouldn't handle up to a hundred k USD or more of other people's money without knowing anything about this.
I am actually speechless, and yes it's how oblotkzi explained it.
One way of doing it is the way Oblotzky explained, but that isn't applicable to someone with the majority of non-EU exports.
As far as I understand, and I'm happy for anyone versed in EU/UK VAT law to correct me:I do not have the thousands for option 2, therefore I'm going for option 1.
- Non-EU - I prove export, no VAT is paid. Two ways to do this:
- (1) Register for zero rated VAT, pay 0% on import, prove export.
- (2) Pay 20% for all items, prove export, claim back VAT from the government.
- EU - items rated at 20% VAT, I pay VAT for the buyer.
Fairly sure I've misread information regarding the VAT for EU buyers.
There are no import taxes for shipments that are between EU countries, so there is no way of anyone to ask for money, how would that work? Do you put a sticker that read 'RECIPIENT HAS TO PAY 83 EUROS' in all caps?
Silver looking really nice. Just out of curiosity, is red considered one of the "easy colors?"
Anyone with a WKL Blue Grey order that would like to swap to a WK Blue Grey?
I have an WK Blue Grey on order although swapped to using WKL in the last year and find I prefer it. Figure this would be the best chance to swap if anyones looking to change over as us Blue-Grey orderers still waiting a bit.
Just sent out the shipping payment information to wrist rest participants. Please LMK if you didn't receive. Thanks.
To confirm, I am in the UK, I will only be paying for postage to get it to my doorstep and no more?
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To confirm, I am in the UK, I will only be paying for postage to get it to my doorstep and no more?
Nothing new to report - still on track to finish this first batch for the end of this month. Will post pics when I get them.
Still waiting on my VAT number/codes to be approved.
Once I get this current batch, I'll get the rest of the schedule out.
Nothing new to report - still on track to finish this first batch for the end of this month. Will post pics when I get them.
Still waiting on my VAT number/codes to be approved.
Once I get this current batch, I'll get the rest of the schedule out.
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
They are done and are in quality control right now.
Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
This is awesome news!Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
This is awesome news!Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
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Damn, would've been so good if I didn't miss this GB.
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
Should we just keep an eye on this thread to be notified when they will be on sale?
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First lot of PCBs arrived with Rozakiin so will be in time for when the cases are here :thumb:
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
They are done and are in quality control right now.
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
They are done and are in quality control right now.
Just been told they'll be ready on the 16th.
Is there an ETA on when we'll have an ETA for the "difficult" colors?True
Extras being sold soon, while I don't even know in which year I might get my 280, feels just wrong.
Is there an ETA on when we'll have an ETA for the "difficult" colors?True
Extras being sold soon, while I don't even know in which year I might get my 280, feels just wrong.
Is there an ETA on when we'll have an ETA for the "difficult" colors?
Extras being sold soon, while I don't even know in which year I might get my 280, feels just wrong.
Ok, thanks. As someone with an unpopular difficult color, I guess I can just hope that it'll come out alright in the end.
Ok, thanks. As someone with an unpopular difficult color, I guess I can just hope that it'll come out alright in the end.
That's the goal.
Right now the main goal is to deliver these Black/Silver/Crimson Red units so everyone can see the quality.
I'd be tempted to change the planned schedule of Ultra Violet to test it with something prior to anodizing the 280s in that color, but we'll see.
Ok, thanks. As someone with an unpopular difficult color, I guess I can just hope that it'll come out alright in the end.
That's the goal.
Right now the main goal is to deliver these Black/Silver/Crimson Red units so everyone can see the quality.
I'd be tempted to change the planned schedule of Ultra Violet to test it with something prior to anodizing the 280s in that color, but we'll see.
We've already waited this long, I'd be down to wait for you to sample the purple ano. But that's just me, and may present more PayPal refresh headaches for you.
I sorta presume everyone thinks the same way.
I would rather take 30 or so days to test a color than just rush into it and potentially get bad results. Especially after all this time.
I sorta presume everyone thinks the same way.
I would rather take 30 or so days to test a color than just rush into it and potentially get bad results. Especially after all this time.
I'm fine with that as well.
My concern is more along the lines, when ultra violet finally ships, there might be no (or not enough) extras in case something goes wrong, not even in a different color.
kira kira doki doki
I've had a failure rate of approximately 10%, and I've ordered 20-25% extra. Failure defined as not A-stock.
I'm not too concerned about having extras for non-GB participants though. Only enough A-stock to fulfill the GB itself.
When can we see them?? :'(
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
They are done and are in quality control right now.
Just been told they'll be ready on the 16th.
It’s been a month since you’ve updated on factory progress with 280. Any news?
They are done and are in quality control right now.
Just been told they'll be ready on the 16th.
Now the 19th :'(
Feel bad for the constant pushbacks, so here's an older picture. Didn't really want to show unanodized, but feel bad showing nothing now.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551189586215305221/600860332621299722/image0.jpg)
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Unfortunately the Crimson Red anodizing doesn't match perfectly, but at least the color looks cool. They'll be redone.
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Unfortunately the Crimson Red anodizing doesn't match perfectly, but at least the color looks cool. They'll be redone.
Black/Silver update?
Holy crap, that is a really deep red, practically a deep wine color.
Hi guys, I think we're very close now. Been told 2 cases are being reanodized, then it's all ready to be sent to me. :-*
do we have a timeline for cases beyond the first batch?
Thanks for the update. Remind me again when you expect the blue grays to be done?
if anyone is willing to sell theirs (i know.. i know.. unlikely), pls do pm! (any color)
Pm
PM
if anyone is willing to sell theirs (i know.. i know.. unlikely), pls do pm! (any color)
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?
if anyone is willing to sell theirs (i know.. i know.. unlikely), pls do pm! (any color)
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
had to skip the the recent pc gb as my money had to go elsewhere. sold a keyboard though so i'm back in the game. Anyone with a PC noxary they want to sell/trade, let me know please.
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
Scheduled delivery for Wednesday 28th. Will then order boxes as I don't know what size is required - those usually take a week.
Scheduled delivery for Wednesday 28th. Will then order boxes as I don't know what size is required - those usually take a week.
Didn't arrive. :rolleyes:
I think they got stuck in customs, so will call tomorrow see if they need anything from me.
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Honest question, if a lot of boards are being made in the same factory, would there be large discrepancies in qc, ano, color matchng, etc. between different boards in different gbs?
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Honest question, if a lot of boards are being made in the same factory, would there be large discrepancies in qc, ano, color matchng, etc. between different boards in different gbs?
runner QC standards/willingness to deal with the factory's bull****
they know that they're basically the only one, so it seems like they're raising prices and lowering quality from what i've heard from a few folks
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Honest question, if a lot of boards are being made in the same factory, would there be large discrepancies in qc, ano, color matchng, etc. between different boards in different gbs?
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
Honest question, if a lot of boards are being made in the same factory, would there be large discrepancies in qc, ano, color matchng, etc. between different boards in different gbs?
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
Only T60 & X60 R are from my current factory.
268.2 Poly turned out mostly fine, but I had too many B-stock units and they're also holding ~$8k worth of stuff that I doubt I'll get back, so I've changed my poly factory.Honest question, if a lot of boards are being made in the same factory, would there be large discrepancies in qc, ano, color matchng, etc. between different boards in different gbs?
Shouldn't be. Aluminum supply, anodizing method, and quality control carried out by the factory will all be consistent. It wouldn't surprise me if 2 completely different projects that were manufactured at the same time, both anodized silver, felt identical.
Scheduled delivery for Wednesday 28th. Will then order boxes as I don't know what size is required - those usually take a week.
Didn't arrive. :rolleyes:
I think they got stuck in customs, so will call tomorrow see if they need anything from me.
All FedEx shipments over $800 require an EORI tax number. I've applied, and should receive it tomorrow. I'll then give the number to FedEx, who can then have it released from customs, and be on it's way to me.
Probably arrive Monday, which is the day I'm moving, but my mum will stay in and receive the package. Then I'll have to move all the boards to my new place. Bit complicated!
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
/shrug
no clue, it's a crapshoot and people's standards for quality vary wildly depending on maker
i also have no idea if xondat is using the same factory as everyone else so i could be totally wrong
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
/shrug
no clue, it's a crapshoot and people's standards for quality vary wildly depending on maker
i also have no idea if xondat is using the same factory as everyone else so i could be totally wrong
Wait, then why would you even say that?
lol u guys are making me worried lol XD why people beggin to unload?Because of the huge delay and not because of quality as far as I know.
I was originally in this buy as well, although I got a refund from Xondat. (sry for bad communication xondat, didn't mean to **** you over :( )
i've heard both
but afaik the factory where these are being made is the same one as what most others are using right now so quality has good odds of ending up fine
Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious as to where you've heard this from? As afaik the only noxary boards to come from the current factory are X60R, 268 Poly and T60 and I haven't heard anyone that wasn't really pleased with all of them?
/shrug
no clue, it's a crapshoot and people's standards for quality vary wildly depending on maker
i also have no idea if xondat is using the same factory as everyone else so i could be totally wrong
Wait, then why would you even say that?
gotta pad that post count somehow
Scheduled delivery for Wednesday 28th. Will then order boxes as I don't know what size is required - those usually take a week.
Didn't arrive. :rolleyes:
I think they got stuck in customs, so will call tomorrow see if they need anything from me.
All FedEx shipments over $800 require an EORI tax number. I've applied, and should receive it tomorrow. I'll then give the number to FedEx, who can then have it released from customs, and be on it's way to me.
Probably arrive Monday, which is the day I'm moving, but my mum will stay in and receive the package. Then I'll have to move all the boards to my new place. Bit complicated!
Submitted the EORI number, and submitted an address change. Not sure on exact date of delivery due to those two things, but should be next week.
Looking nice. Can’t wait to see dat blue gray
Looking nice. Can’t wait to see dat blue gray
5 months away!
can we get some side profile shots?
also, not sure if it's been asked before but how are the 220's looking?
Is there a timeline for other colors (blue-grey,etc..) as well as a final date when you expect to have all 280s sent out?
Already got the screws; boxes on Monday.
Xondat this is taking incredibly long
Xondaddy please don't abandon us for your Topre family just yet...
I’ve been waiting for screwdrivers to avoid stripping factory provided screws, which arrived yesterday. I’ll be replacing screws and building kits over the weekend, and having a few picked up on Monday for delivery mid week. :)
How were you doing it before?????????Xondaddy please don't abandon us for your Topre family just yet...
280 is first, they are my priority right now.
Update on on-hand units:
I’ve been waiting for screwdrivers to avoid stripping factory provided screws, which arrived yesterday. I’ll be replacing screws and building kits over the weekend, and having a few picked up on Monday for delivery mid week. :)
How were you doing it before?????????
I have so many questions about your process
I'll probably have extra colors for Dark Gray and Blue Gray 280s.
I dont remember if it was mentioned earlier but what was your goal for the type of blue grey you were going for again?
I dont remember if it was mentioned earlier but what was your goal for the type of blue grey you were going for again?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ehH5UUL.jpg)
I dont remember if it was mentioned earlier but what was your goal for the type of blue grey you were going for again?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ehH5UUL.jpg)
Right, thought that was it. How close do you think you are to achieving that currently?
The first few are being picked up tomorrow (Monday) :)
First units are shipped. Will wait for these to arrive, then get feedback, and continue shipping the other 18.
I'll post the big update about the remaining colors this week.
What is this I see?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CqP1zpV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yL8hstS.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3UACvac.jpg)
What is this I see?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CqP1zpV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yL8hstS.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3UACvac.jpg)
Thanks for the update. Curious about one thing though. What is the 280s/220s? Iirc at the beginning of this gb there was only one version of the boardJust a special edition. It was a private buy for friends, etc IIRC
Thanks for the update. Curious about one thing though. What is the 280s/220s? Iirc at the beginning of this gb there was only one version of the board
What's the status of the wrist rests? I paid for shipping at some point, but then nothing happened.
Can we expect outstanding paypal invoices to be resent in the next 2-3 weeks?
It's refresh time!
Thanks for the update. Curious about one thing though. What is the 280s/220s? Iirc at the beginning of this gb there was only one version of the board
any extras?
Are the prices the "GB Prices" same that are listed on the IC? I may be overlooking something in the GB post.
Thanks for the update. Curious about one thing though. What is the 280s/220s? Iirc at the beginning of this gb there was only one version of the boardJust a special edition. It was a private buy for friends, etc IIRC
What is this I see?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CqP1zpV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yL8hstS.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3UACvac.jpg)
Thought I'd go ahead and put up a built picture as well. I'm pumped for the rest of the first batch colors to get their boards. It's very nice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Tkn1Mtw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zxPiQjJ.jpg)Thanks for the update. Curious about one thing though. What is the 280s/220s? Iirc at the beginning of this gb there was only one version of the board
Yes, it was just a few private boards for friends. The weight is the only difference.
Looking great. What did you build the board up with and how are you liking the 5mm plate material
Posting this so I can link to it when people ask, but I have some build slots left for unproduced colors. Please DM if you'd like to join (aka get a "spare/extra"). GB pricing.
What's available:No limits on plate choice or quantity, and PCB quantity.
- Lightning Silver (WKL only)
- Olive Green (WKL only)
- Blue Gray (WK or WKL)
- Pink (WK or WKL)
- Meteorite Gray (WK or WKL)
- Ultra Violet (WK or WKL)
Also there has to be a cut off for color changes, at least for the first batch, so please let me know no later than the 10th of October. After this point, the only options will be batch 2/3.
I have also PM'd, very interested in snagging an extra if at all possible. Please let me know!
Update on the boards waiting to be shipping:
The majority have paid their shipping invoice, of which I'm mostly caught up on packing. Hoping the last few people will pay their invoices soon so I can have one big pickup, but will probably have a couple so others aren't waiting. Expecting to have the majority picked up this week :thumb:Also there has to be a cut off for color changes, at least for the first batch, so please let me know no later than the 10th of October. After this point, the only options will be batch 2/3.
Noting this is "closed" now, if you want to switch colors between batches 2 & 3, then please let me know, but otherwise batch 1 is locked in.I have also PM'd, very interested in snagging an extra if at all possible. Please let me know!
All are accounted for, however there are two outstanding invoices, I'll post if these become free :)
Hey mate, I filled in the shipping form a few days ago as I didn't notice it had been sent for a while. Haven't received a shipping invoice yet, I assume as I filled it in about a week or so after you sent it out whereas I imagine the majority do so in 24hrs or so. If you could send one through that would be great, thanks.
Hey mate, I filled in the shipping form a few days ago as I didn't notice it had been sent for a while. Haven't received a shipping invoice yet, I assume as I filled it in about a week or so after you sent it out whereas I imagine the majority do so in 24hrs or so. If you could send one through that would be great, thanks.
With UK shipping, I'm going to split the shipment into two, it's ~$40 with DHL. RM has the 2kg limit, but if I split into 2 shipment then it'll be $10 or so per box. Just need to pack and weigh to get an accurate figure to then invoice for.
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446841211207286807/631629827404988428/image0.jpg)
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446841211207286807/631629827404988428/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432209486502166568/633410202846363648/image0.jpg)
Couple images I've taken whilst assembling.
Of the 21 from this batch:Hoping the unpaid & unfilled can get that sorted soon :thumb:
- 3 have arrived
- 10 are being sent this week
- 4 need shipping quoting
- 2 unpaid invoices
- 1 cancelled slot (which will be sold with the few extras I have)
- 1 hasn't filled in the shipping form
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
Any update on refresh?
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
Any update on refresh?
Seems like I can still refund and have PP refund the fees, so I will send a form out tomorrow. Approx 165 days since, so should be a good window for people to get it done.
Is this for batch 1
Batch #2: Lightning Silver, Olive Green, Rose Gold, Vortex Gray
Batch #3: Blue Gray, Jet Black, Pink
Batch #4: Meteorite Gray, Ultra Violet, Crimson RedShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/7uECgQk.png)
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386225124908466179/634531813804736552/image0.jpg)
If you've paid shipping, it's being collected tomorrow.
Got mine in and I'm just gonna say she's a beut.
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Also a quick little something to show how dark the shade of red is from a more normal shade.
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not as beautiful as XRF :D
Got mine in and I'm just gonna say she's a beut.
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Also a quick little something to show how dark the shade of red is from a more normal shade.
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Got mine in and I'm just gonna say she's a beut.
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Also a quick little something to show how dark the shade of red is from a more normal shade.
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that brass is sooooo thicc
Got mine in and I'm just gonna say she's a beut.
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Also a quick little something to show how dark the shade of red is from a more normal shade.
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that brass is sooooo thicc
Yeah, I love thick butts.. BRASS! I love thick brass! :-[
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
Any update on refresh?
Seems like I can still refund and have PP refund the fees, so I will send a form out tomorrow. Approx 165 days since, so should be a good window for people to get it done.
Just sent the form via PMs to those that refreshed last time. Will check in a couple days and start processing.
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
Any update on refresh?
Seems like I can still refund and have PP refund the fees, so I will send a form out tomorrow. Approx 165 days since, so should be a good window for people to get it done.
Just sent the form via PMs to those that refreshed last time. Will check in a couple days and start processing.
Filled in the form a few days ago will you be sending refresh today/tomorrow?
I don't think I got a form.
I will look into a final refresh, I'm not sure how the new PayPal changes will effect, but I think it should be okay.
Any update on refresh?
Seems like I can still refund and have PP refund the fees, so I will send a form out tomorrow. Approx 165 days since, so should be a good window for people to get it done.
Just sent the form via PMs to those that refreshed last time. Will check in a couple days and start processing.
Filled in the form a few days ago will you be sending refresh today/tomorrow?Will send them right now.All sent.
I don't think I got a form.
Got mine in and I'm just gonna say she's a beut.
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Also a quick little something to show how dark the shade of red is from a more normal shade.
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that brass is sooooo thicc
Yeah, I love thick butts.. BRASS! I love thick brass! :-[
Hey man, no shame in that
Bruh, can we get another update. How is no one else bothered by the fact that this is still going on without consistent updates. What is the progress on bath #2?
Still waiting for mine, shipping invoice paid weeks ago...
Bruh, can we get another update. How is no one else bothered by the fact that this is still going on without consistent updates. What is the progress on bath #2?
Batch 2 is in production as per the title, sorry that I forgot to post to confirm that.
Further info ICYMI: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95660.msg2817403#msg2817403
Serious Q: how often would you like updates when it's just a case of waiting for production progress? I only really get updates on production at the start to confirm it's started, and near the end saying it's almost done.Still waiting for mine, shipping invoice paid weeks ago...
The remaining DHL packages (non-US) are being collected tomorrow (11/8). Apologies for the delay.
having been in a lot of silent gb threads, i think biweekly updates that say as little as not much to report are comforting.
Did you ever get updated on the blue gray testing?
Did you ever get updated on the blue gray testing?
Hi All,
I've been out of the community for a while now so I'm not sure what has happened in this GB since I've been gone.
What is the status of the boards? I ordered a Blue WKL board which I have not received, not received any shipping invoices etc.
I also have no received my wrist rest despite filling the form out.
Hi All,
I've been out of the community for a while now so I'm not sure what has happened in this GB since I've been gone.
What is the status of the boards? I ordered a Blue WKL board which I have not received, not received any shipping invoices etc.
I also have no received my wrist rest despite filling the form out.
Reading the thread from the point you left off would probably help in getting up to speed.
Hi All,
I've been out of the community for a while now so I'm not sure what has happened in this GB since I've been gone.
What is the status of the boards? I ordered a Blue WKL board which I have not received, not received any shipping invoices etc.
I also have no received my wrist rest despite filling the form out.
Reading the thread from the point you left off would probably help in getting up to speed.
i know i'm the master of unhelpful ****posting but this is a new extreme
this is a 15 page thread, it's unreasonable to expect someone to read the entire thing given the volume of information contained in it
@snappo
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95660.msg2817403#msg2817403
this post should be of help to you
Hi All,
I've been out of the community for a while now so I'm not sure what has happened in this GB since I've been gone.
What is the status of the boards? I ordered a Blue WKL board which I have not received, not received any shipping invoices etc.
I also have no received my wrist rest despite filling the form out.
Reading the thread from the point you left off would probably help in getting up to speed.
i know i'm the master of unhelpful ****posting but this is a new extreme
this is a 15 page thread, it's unreasonable to expect someone to read the entire thing given the volume of information contained in it
@snappo
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95660.msg2817403#msg2817403
this post should be of help to you
expecting people to read the thread of the group buy they're a part of, what a wild concept
So, 2 months now for 35 boards in batch 2 that are still "in production." I'm still not a patient man. I try, but it just doesn't work for me. :(
Well surely it'll be time to test out the blue gray soon. right?
So, 2 months now for 35 boards in batch 2 that are still "in production." I'm still not a patient man. I try, but it just doesn't work for me. :(
Well surely it'll be time to test out the blue gray soon. right?
Honestly, it's not about whether you're a "patient" man or not, anyone would be a bit upset over this. Was supposed to be a gb that gets fulfilled in a few months, going over a year now so...yeah, at least cross your fingers that you literally get a flawless final product else that insane wait was for pretty much nothing.
Weekly update: nothing new on the case side. Got PCB pricing so will be submitting the order asap.So, 2 months now for 35 boards in batch 2 that are still "in production." I'm still not a patient man. I try, but it just doesn't work for me. :(
Well surely it'll be time to test out the blue gray soon. right?
Honestly, it's not about whether you're a "patient" man or not, anyone would be a bit upset over this. Was supposed to be a gb that gets fulfilled in a few months, going over a year now so...yeah, at least cross your fingers that you literally get a flawless final product else that insane wait was for pretty much nothing.
Sorry that things are taking so long. Based on Batch 1, I'm happy with the call to switch factories, as I've had minimal issues. The only issue is how far away we get from the original dates.
Nothing new.
It's Chinese New Year right now, so there won't be anything new for the next 2-3 weeks. Hopefully something will ship to me by the end of February :)
Nothing new.
It's Chinese New Year right now, so there won't be anything new for the next 2-3 weeks. Hopefully something will ship to me by the end of February :)
using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
Where are we on this in terms of production?
I think the brass parts will finish first, followed by the polycarbonate parts, followed by the aluminum cases. Anodized parts last as it's the most important, they will be like this quality/finish wise:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lTEkHiK.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zh5wwMc.jpg)
Also the wrist rests arrived, so I will be sending them out shortly once I send shipping invoices and those are paid.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/520242800906993665/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/520242919559659551/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/520242918888308736/image1.jpg)
Sorry the pictures are rotated. Also the 280 pictured there isn't assembled, and is a very old prototype.
I think I have a couple left over but will sell them after.
Been meaning to update on the wrist rest situation for a while, those that have PMd know, but needed to post openly.
I QCd them a while back and out of the 40, I think maybe 10 were good, and the rest were meh to pretty bad. So I've been thinking about redoing them.
I think I'm going to send the good ones to people that have a Black/Silver/Crimson Red board from the first batch, and then redo the others.
is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
Quite honestly this is getting a little out of hand and ridiculous. I think the majority of us have been patient and understanding but without anyone really speaking up, it's like a free pass to delay and start up other projects (XRF? Evija?) I understand manufacturers have queues and colors require testing/QC but this is a bit much. So i'm totally on board for the idea of opt outs as well.
Also just to point out - Polycarbonate wrist rests were delivered to you in December of 2018. It wasn't until 8 months later in August 2019 that you decide to let us know that only 10 out of 40 were good? 8 months for that? Really? I think that speaks for itself...
Caveat emptor tho right?
I reluctantly have to agree with this. As much as I want to wait, it's really hard not to get frustrated or disheartened by the fact that by our current trajectory, we have to wait two years for these boards. Also, out of curiosity, is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
Nah MX:SS started the month before lol. There are probably other ones that have dragged out longer too
is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
Nah MX:SS started the month before lol. There are probably other ones that have dragged out longer too
southpaw 65+ is still running lmao
is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
Nah MX:SS started the month before lol. There are probably other ones that have dragged out longer too
southpaw 65+ is still running lmao
Nothing new.
It's Chinese New Year right now, so there won't be anything new for the next 2-3 weeks. Hopefully something will ship to me by the end of February :)
using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
I reluctantly have to agree with this. As much as I want to wait, it's really hard not to get frustrated or disheartened by the fact that by our current trajectory, we have to wait two years for these boards. Also, out of curiosity, is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
is this officially the longest gb for a kb yet?
Nah MX:SS started the month before lol. There are probably other ones that have dragged out longer too
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
I'll make a new realistic timeline when I receive batch 2. Definitely no where near 2021. I cannot afford opt outs, sorry.
quite frankly that's an unreasonable position, especially because i have no faith that we aren't going to be in 2021 when batch 4 gets shipped. the blue gray still isn't production ready, let alone the two colors in batch 4. batch 3 alone is the size of batches 1 and 2. and there hasn't been any indication for why the timeline posited in october hasn't been followed.
it shouldn't be the onus of the participant to try to find another buyer to take their spot in this considering the myriad failures in following a timely production schedule.
If anyone is interested in selling a blue-gray spot, please PM me here or on Discord under the same username. Thanks!! Am willing to negotiate!!
Update:
280/220 Batch 2 are my main priority, and will be the next thing to leave the factory. However due to the COVID-19 outbreak in China, it's currently impossible to place a completion date on pre-existing projects.
Please read that blog for more information - https://noxary.co/covid-19
Update:
280/220 Batch 2 are my main priority, and will be the next thing to leave the factory. However due to the COVID-19 outbreak in China, it's currently impossible to place a completion date on pre-existing projects.
Please read that blog for more information - https://noxary.co/covid-19
Did something happen to the website? no updates?
Any updates on batch 3/4 timelines? Honest question: I see multiple other projects getting started on your website with 280 about to hit 2 years (in 2 months) with many colors still not even ordered/verified based on last updates, what is the priority to get 280 done vs these other projects (Evija GB states it is starting in March ending in May, why can we not get similar timelines on 280, is it not the priority to finish this GB)?
Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YeE0PR6guUENnfKNpvdkMtEStkmvB_VsFgqlJjzL950/edit?usp=sharing
Just updated the public order sheet as I haven't done so in a while and quite a few orders have changed hands.Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YeE0PR6guUENnfKNpvdkMtEStkmvB_VsFgqlJjzL950/edit?usp=sharing
Just updated the public order sheet as I haven't done so in a while and quite a few orders have changed hands.Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YeE0PR6guUENnfKNpvdkMtEStkmvB_VsFgqlJjzL950/edit?usp=sharing
Does the public order sheet consider the order in which each board will be produced? Or is it more of a tool to check which items we've ordered?
Is there a plan to cancel/reinvoice until delivery? Looks like the paypal 180 days window ends next week for those of us who were re-invoiced last time.
Looking at the public spreadsheet I don't see anything about 220s. If they are on there I don't see mine let alone any of the same color that I ordered. I already received my 280 just waiting on the 220. Is there another sheet I should be looking at?
Is there a plan to cancel/reinvoice until delivery? Looks like the paypal 180 days window ends next week for those of us who were re-invoiced last time.
I've had a couple requests so will work on it tonight and DM those eligible :thumb:
280 / 220 Update -
Batch 2 has now entered anodizing. Hoping to see these in May, however it's still difficult to say. The second and final batch of PCBs (275 total) have arrived with Rozakiin, and are now going through programming & testing.
What’s the current sitch, Xondaddy?
What’s the current sitch, Xondaddy?
yikesNot heard anything specifically about 280/220 when I asked, just got told they're still in anodizing.
Got an update an hour later:
The Batch 2 220s are ready, whilst the 280s are still undergoing anodizing. I expect these to be shipped from the manufacturer mid June.
What’s the current sitch, Xondaddy?
yikesNot heard anything specifically about 280/220 when I asked, just got told they're still in anodizing.
Got an update an hour later:
The Batch 2 220s are ready, whilst the 280s are still undergoing anodizing. I expect these to be shipped from the manufacturer mid June.
Just to clarify, are you saying you expect 280s shipped in mid June, or the 220s?
NE Extras?
NE Extras?
I have extras from each batch as I need to plan for defects, they'll most likely be B-stock but will be sold once each batch is fulfilled.
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Lightning Silver 280, 5mm Brass plateShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/8FPy039.jpg)
Olive Green 280, 5mm Brass plateShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Iiv7gni.jpg)
Lightning Silver & Vortex Gray 220Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/azkeME8.jpg)
Lightning Silver & Vortex Gray 220
Selling 280 ultra violet spotpm'd
Hi guys,
I received the Batch 2 shipment today, however unfortunately 1 of the 4 boxes has been stolen from my building before I went to collect it from concierge. I'm currently in the process of taking inventory to figure out what's missing and will update as soon as I know.
This has just happened in the past 2 hours, so please understand that I might not be able to answer anything for sure until things have settled.
If you happen to be the individual or group that has the box, please contact me @ support@noxary.co - I'm happy to keep it anonymous, I'd just like the contents of the box back. Willing to pay cash and keep it between us. Thanks.
Wait, are you saying that the person who took one of the boxes is on GH?
Sorry to hear about the theft, that is unfortunate.
In terms of color testing, is the plan to color test batches 3 and 4 simultaneously, so that production of batch 4 will begin immediately following completion of batch 3? Or will batch 4 testing only begin after completing production of batch 3?
Quick update - boxes are on order and expected late next week, and PCBs should be sent out at the start of next week. As always I'll send a couple out first to make sure the packaging is flawless, then send the rest out. I'll post here when the shipping form has been PMd to those expecting.
Some 220 pictures for now :)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438429095303315456/722997593721798686/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438429095303315456/722997594397212692/image1.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438429095303315456/722999997960028191/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438429095303315456/723000023058481372/image1.jpg)
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PCBs arrived today, here is a built 220 :thumb:
Waiting on boxes but will send the first few ASAP to get packaging feedback.
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PCBs arrived today, here is a built 220 :thumb:
Waiting on boxes but will send the first few ASAP to get packaging feedback.
Thats a really pretty keyset - where can I get it?
Where are we at on color testing for batch 3?
Where are we at on color testing for batch 3?
no comment?..
Selling WKL Blue Grey spot
WTB: Jet Black 280 wkl or wk
WTB: Jet Black 280 wkl or wk
According to the public spreadsheet there is at most one (1) jet black order, held by user poolside. Hence it may be difficult to find a spot for this color.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YeE0PR6guUENnfKNpvdkMtEStkmvB_VsFgqlJjzL950/edit?usp=sharing
Can we get an update on the 3rd batch color testing? It's the end of the month now...
Can we get an update on the 3rd batch color testing? It's the end of the month now...
I'm working out the finer details. I'm happy with the Blue Gray but increasing the quantity responsibly is my primary concern (there's over 60 Blue Gray units, and I'm still paranoid after the mismatched X60 Rs honestly). I'd also love to get some feedback on the Blue Gray when buyers have it, but that most likely will not happen.
Can we get an update on the 3rd batch color testing? It's the end of the month now...
I'm working out the finer details. I'm happy with the Blue Gray but increasing the quantity responsibly is my primary concern (there's over 60 Blue Gray units, and I'm still paranoid after the mismatched X60 Rs honestly). I'd also love to get some feedback on the Blue Gray when buyers have it, but that most likely will not happen.
How do you mean? I'm slated for a blue grey and would be willing to post some pics and my impressions but I'm afraid they might not be all that helpful since I don't exactly have the reference OTD board to compare it to lol
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Meteorite Gray, Blue Gray, Lightning Silver.
I'm not sure XRF will be able to ship before work can begin on the Blue Gray 280/220s :)
So can I take that to mean we are on schedule for batch 3? The blue grey in that photo does look quite nice.
Hmm... could be the lighting but it looks more blue than the OTD image found earlier in the thread.
Also, would extra plates and PCB's be available for purchase after the GB is completed? Looking to get a 5mm poly and 5mm brass plate for different sound signatures.
Batch 3 GB date? Yes? No? Maybe so?
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the second pic looks like different shaped cases? are those just the colors that the 3rd batch will be? i kind of like the bigger bezel.
WTB a red WKL spot, pls lmk!
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Can we get an update on the 3rd batch color testing? It's near the end of the month now and three weeks since last update.
What's the current status with the wrist rests?
Update:
All Batch 2 280s have been delivered. The Batch 2 220s will be fulfilled by the end of August.
Batch 3 is now in production, these should take around 3 months to complete.
Update:
All Batch 2 280s have been delivered. The Batch 2 220s will be fulfilled by the end of August.
Batch 3 is now in production, these should take around 3 months to complete.
Three months starting now? Also, is it three months for them to be delivered or three months for them to completed, then it has to be sorted, QC'ed shipped?
Nothing new.
It's Chinese New Year right now, so there won't be anything new for the next 2-3 weeks. Hopefully something will ship to me by the end of February :)
using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
this is actually gonna happen lol ... just ridiculous....
For what it's worth I appreciate your determination to get this done and how much more communicative you have been than other GB runners. I already received my 280 and the quality is fantastic. I had been frustrated by the delays initially but got the main portion of my order (waiting on 220 and wrist rest) and realized you were still on top of the project. Now, with pandemic related delays, we have to be even more patient. Truly I understand the frustration of many and this has been one of if not the longest group buy I've been a part of. However, you really haven't wavered in your dedication to get a quality end product to everyone. I've been part of a few very poorly managed group buys and this one is the least of my concerns. Good luck with wrapping this up and again thanks for being pretty well on top of everything.using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
this is actually gonna happen lol ... just ridiculous....
As before, my attitude hasn't changed, if I need to take time to make necessary adjustments for quality, then I will and have done. This is effectively 4 group buys in 1 due to the color limitations. It sucks it's this way, but the only thing that can be done is to finish the buy with the highest quality boards, and that takes time. I've had a lot of participants say this is the highest quality board they've seen, and I intend for every single board to be the same.
There's been so many set backs since I started this buy, but I've never given up, and there's no reason now. Seeing the Batch 2 boards get delivered is another huge motivation to carry on.
using the post in october as a guideline, it seems that we are at then, at least, two months behind in getting batch 2 to its buyers. batch 2 has been in production for 4 months, projected to be a minimum of 5. obviously a lot more than the 6 to 8 weeks suggested before.
i think we need a new, realistic timeline for the project. honestly, it might just make sense to get opt outs for this because having to wait until 2021 for this keyboard just seems unreasonable for me, as a batch 4 participant.
this is actually gonna happen lol ... just ridiculous....
As before, my attitude hasn't changed, if I need to take time to make necessary adjustments for quality, then I will and have done. This is effectively 4 group buys in 1 due to the color limitations. It sucks it's this way, but the only thing that can be done is to finish the buy with the highest quality boards, and that takes time. I've had a lot of participants say this is the highest quality board they've seen, and I intend for every single board to be the same.
There's been so many set backs since I started this buy, but I've never given up, and there's no reason now. Seeing the Batch 2 boards get delivered is another huge motivation to carry on.
Update:
Batch 3 is now in production, these should take around 3 months to complete.
ne update
Update:
Batch 3 is now in production, these should take around 3 months to complete.
Nothing has changed with production from the last update, all on schedule :thumb:
What kind of ETA are we looking at for Batch 3 address confirmation and shipping?
Man, I don't want to get my hopes up too high but it might truly be soon that I can actually see this board. More than 2 fcking years...
Watching TaehaTypes' video gives me hope and an unruly desire for the 5mm poly plate. I'm guessing the only way to get one now is to buy it off someone else eh?
ne update
For our Post and Parcel unit, we are unfortunately forced to impose a complete delivery stop for business and private customer parcels as well as goods-bearing letters to Great Britain and Ireland with immediate effect until further notice. Unfortunately, due to a lack of storage capacity, we have to return consignments with goods content and bulky goods to the senders.
Interesting, so the darker one matches closer to the target 356cl blue grey then? Hard to tell since I can't see the samples in real life but the darker one looks almost washed out in comparison
Interesting, so the darker one matches closer to the target 356cl blue grey then? Hard to tell since I can't see the samples in real life but the darker one looks almost washed out in comparison
I believe it's pretty much perfect :)
The 356.2 also becomes washed out in darker conditions.Show Image(https://64.media.tumblr.com/86a742e87d1279f93eeb347058cad5e7/tumblr_nkhl45qMIj1tch031o7_1280.jpg)
And it's also important to remember the color mismatch on the original, it is closer to the bottom piece for reference.Show Image(https://64.media.tumblr.com/fce0569be3fc31406ac054379e41dcc9/tumblr_nkhl45qMIj1tch031o2_r1_1280.jpg)
Based on these pictures which was the goal from the beginning, I'm happy.
Edit: These images aren't color corrected and appear more purple than irl, there are no hints of purple irl.
Xondat made an update yesterday on Noxary :)
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"Anodizing for Batch 3 is mostly complete, with a few Blue Gray parts needing to be reanodized due to color differences between the two halves. These are expected to ship before the Chinese New Year period begins on February 6th."
https://noxary.co/blogs/updates/january-2021
Has anyone received invoices yet?
Has anyone received invoices yet?
No, I will post when I do.
Has anyone received invoices yet?
No, I will post when I do.
Hey Xon. Have you started invoices? I haven't received mine yet and was expecting it last week.
Has anyone received invoices yet?
No, I will post when I do.
Hey Xon. Have you started invoices? I haven't received mine yet and was expecting it last week.
I have not - I will post when I do.
Expecting to send the first, not all, invoices on Friday.
What's going on with batch four? Looking forward to the upcoming three year anniversary of the gb.
realistically batch 3 seems like it'll be delivered in may, batch 4 i assume would be near of end of 2021
The shipping form for BATCH 3 has been sent via Geekhack DMs. If you did not receive it, please let me know.
I expect to send the first invoices later next week.
So if we filled out the form but didn’t get an invoice we’re just not in this first batch?
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Hey Xondat, appreciate you matching the the Blue Grays together! I personally would prefer receiving an invoice first and then getting the shipping / tracking later because right now I'm spending time checking back and forth on geekhack /paypal to make sure I didn't miss the invoice. I'd rather pay the invoice and just wait for the tracking email, can't speak for everyone else though.
FYI: All but 1 Pink 280 from this batch has been fulfilled, so I'm only talking about Blue Gray 280s right now.
I paid my shipping invoice. Thought there would be an input for a shipping address since mine has since changed. Should I message you here on GH or send an email regarding my address change?
Got my invoice for the 280 and paid. Is it not possible to send the 220 and 280 together? Figured that would save quite a bit of money.
FYI: All but 1 Pink 280 from this batch has been fulfilled, so I'm only talking about Blue Gray 280s right now.
Sucks to be this guy :'( guess I'm lucky last!
I paid my shipping invoice. Thought there would be an input for a shipping address since mine has since changed. Should I message you here on GH or send an email regarding my address change?
Changed since you filled in the shipping form? It’s being sent to the one you put into the form. If you need to update it, please redo the form. P.S. please don’t forget your invoice number this time :)
Have all invoices for this "batch" of good blue grays been sent out? Do you have an idea of when the rest will be ready for invoicing?
With the remaining third, I'll try mixing the pieces around to get some more well matching cases. ...
For now, I'll go forward with the cases I'm happy with, getting these fully assembled, shipping invoices sent, and picked up. This'll give me more space to work, and the majority of people will get their cases finally :)
220s come later, or should I have received an invoice for that too?
Beyond this I am not sure where they stand with manufacturing and such.What's the current status with the wrist rests?
They will be fulfilled with Batch 4.
For now, I'll go forward with the cases I'm happy with, getting these fully assembled, shipping invoices sent, and picked up.
Awesome to see everyone getting their boards. Can anyone comment on the finishing quality of the anode?
Awesome to see everyone getting their boards. Can anyone comment on the finishing quality of the anode?
Mine is nice. The finish feels a bit dry compared to some other boards I have. Top is slightly lighter than the bottom, but no other issues so far (still haven't built it).
Great to see the boards have arrived and everyone is satisfied :thumb: Excited to see peoples builds when they're completed.
Regarding the remaining boards in this batch:
As previously mentioned, I've now tried mixing parts around, however this hasn't led to getting any more kits with color matching up to the standard they should be at. For reference, about 60% of Blue Gray 280s were approved, and these have been fulfilled. The boards that don't have great color matching are the remaining 40%, including all the 220s. I understand this is going to upset people, as it has upset me too.
I think the best course of action now is to have the boards reanodized. My belief is that there are two options - either send them back to the factory, and hope they come out better, or send them to a new anodizer with experience in keyboards, of which I know of 2 that have put out great work. There are advantages and disadvantages to both options, however I believe sending them back to the factory will just mean going in circles until they're all up to the standard they should be. I'd love to get peoples opinions on this, but I think working with a new anodizer is the direction to go.
As of right now, I do not know how long this will take as I haven't messaged a new anodizer, however I will get talks going and try and come back with an estimate by the end of the month.
I want this over and boards delivered to everyone, however there is no point after all this time to give up on the quality and deliver something sub par. I will make sure everyone is satisfied with the end result. Thank you for everyones continued patience, it's truly appreciated.
Edit 1: If you haven't received your board, this means you are affected. Faxe, ihalatch, and nug - you have not received an invoice, but your board is being sent this week.
Edit 2: I didn't make it clear enough - I want to hear peoples opinions on this. If you'd rather get a board with not amazing color matching, then it could be arranged. I do not want to send these out as I feel like it's giving up after how long it's been, but if someone is adamant about this, I won't block them.
Would a new factory be able to match the other factory’s color? I have my 280 and the top and bottom are quite close to the same color. But if you go with a new factory will the 220 match?
Quick update, I've heard from 2 of the 3 paths, just waiting on the last one - expecting this week.Would a new factory be able to match the other factory’s color? I have my 280 and the top and bottom are quite close to the same color. But if you go with a new factory will the 220 match?
I'll be providing the same sample, so it'd be as close as it can be.
I think I've misunderstood something (no surprise there).
Is there a color mismatch issue with all 220s? or just the Blue Grey?
Finished my build! Quick phone pic; really happy with how it turned out. The thick PC plate feels and sounds very nice. It feels like it vibrates a bit on impact; not too sure how to mitigate that without stiffening the board too much. There's very little clearance underneath the PCB with the plate.
The front height is really low. Way, way lower than any keyboard I've typed on. Weirdly comfortable but also makes me concerned that I have bad typing form.
Overall, very happy with it! Love typing on it!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OxOpby3.jpg)
It's surreal to me that this has hit 3 years. I don't think I've ever waited this long for any purchase I've made ever.
It's surreal to me that this has hit 3 years. I don't think I've ever waited this long for any purchase I've made ever.Haha, this IS surreal. I remember that I ordered the board right when the GB open while I was at a wedding. To think that this person now has been married for 3 years and I still haven‘t received the board is kinda wild..
Will there ever be good news for Batch 3, I wonder? :rolleyes:
I wanted to post a lot more of what I'm pulling together to try and make things right for those that've waited all this time, but it's not ready yet, so I'll hold off from any more info for now. I'd like to present it as full as possible.
Batch 3 Reanodizing: Pretty bad news, but with some good news. Basically no news from the anodizer since they received them early August. Honestly, I have no idea what they've been doing apart from giving me very low effort responses like "we are busy with a big order and will do yours after" etc. Ultimately, I decided about 1.5 weeks ago to just give up, and try and get the parts back. I know somewhere else I can take them now, so if I could at least get the parts back, that'd be much better than having to remanufacture the parts all over again. They've just verbally agreed to send the parts back as it isn't "done" yet, whatever that means. Hoping I can get the physical parts back and deal with the finishing afterwards. Will update if/when I receive the parts back. I try to keep emotion out of these updates but this has been pretty defeating to me, but I'm determined to see it through. Thank you again to those that have been patient throughout, it really does mean a lot.
Batch 4: Remanufacturing has been mostly successful, about 80% are ready, but the others need redoing again. I've asked how long these should take and whether it's possible to just ship the good boards + wrist rests to me for now.
My best guess right now is January if everything goes well.
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Some Batch 4 220s.
Still waiting on batch 3 Jet Black 220. Any word?
Are wrist rests part of the 60/40 Batch 4 shipments?
Given the difficulties with blue grey, would it be possible to opt for something like Pink or Jet Black instead?
I believe I recall that based on naming convention, the 380 would also be a TKL. If so, I would consider transferring to this project. Do you have any sense when that would be launched? I haven't seen an IC yet so I assume it is still quite far in the future. If we do that, what happens to our 220, do we have to accept the current ano or lack thereof? Would also be nice for any 280 transfers to get some sort of limited edition 380.
Happy to do a limited edition :)
I was under the assumption that anyone transferring to a 380 would not receive a 280. I certainly would not expect to receive both.
Would be interested in a 380 transfer
What's another year at this point
Yep, bad wording on my part! Ability to purchase, rather than a free board.
Maybe some shade of purple?I believe I recall that based on naming convention, the 380 would also be a TKL. If so, I would consider transferring to this project. Do you have any sense when that would be launched? I haven't seen an IC yet so I assume it is still quite far in the future. If we do that, what happens to our 220, do we have to accept the current ano or lack thereof? Would also be nice for any 280 transfers to get some sort of limited edition 380.
Right now, I'd say May start with very roughly end of year delivery. That'll probably change, but will give you some idea.
Regarding 220, you'd just get that as noted above, as there is no guarantee I will do a "320".
Happy to do a limited edition :)
Roughly speaking, specifiation of 380 is:Layout is fixed full Left Shift, full Backspace, ANSI Enter, full Right Shift, Tsangan bottom row, with options of full or stepped Caps Lock. The biggest change will be the F13 key.
- F13 80% Layout
- DUAL V2 Mount (rather than top mount)
- Screwless Exterior
- Seamless Case Design
- Brass Through Weight (basically identical to 280 but with new engraving)
- 7° Base Angle (1 lower than 280)
- 15.5mm Front Height ft. LEDGE
- USB-C Daughterboard
- Hyper Red (Aluminum) or 5mm Polycarbonate Plate
Colors will probably be Blue Gray, Silver, and perhaps Pink. If you guys wanted different from those colors then happy to discuss.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dT0NM2n.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mdQLbWh.png)
Colors will probably be Blue Gray, Silver, and perhaps Pink. If you guys wanted different from those colors then happy to discuss.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dT0NM2n.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mdQLbWh.png)
I understand where you're coming from. I personally will forego a discount on the 280 if offered. It's part of the risk of joining a GB. And in this case, I don't see any evidence that Xondat has not worked hard to do things right.I agree that Xondat did everything possible, and never claimed anything otherwise. But, I disagree that a business using GB model giving potential get out of jail free card. At this stage in the hobby, I think we are way past GBs being a hobbyist trying to get a board made(most of the time). That said, I understand these are still relatively small businesses and can't just replace stuff like Apple, hence was my suggestion of 380 LE spot with discount. That still gives them more customers, and previous customers end up happy.
I sincerely doubt there will be a shortage of people wanting spots in a limited GB.Sometimes it feels impossible to say anything pro-consumer in this forum :) Surprisingly, most of the defending come from customers rather than vendors/designers/businesses.
How does option two work? I’m fine with either purple in the pic at this point tbh. I missed out on the Valhalla but would love to get in on that somehow if possible.
How does option two work? I’m fine with either purple in the pic at this point tbh. I missed out on the Valhalla but would love to get in on that somehow if possible.
You get the 280, and you can also purchase a discounted 380 LE/Valhalla.
Also to be clear - all the 280s are one variant of the UV, all the 220s are the other variant. There are no matching pairs.
As a UV 280 spot, I'd need to see top vs. bottom mismatch pictures to make a decision. Keeping an eye out for those pics on Wednesday.I’m inclined to do the same
I can't track down where we are on. I thought I filled out shipping info for my 220 (batch 3) several months ago. Did you ship those?
I can't track down where we are on. I thought I filled out shipping info for my 220 (batch 3) several months ago. Did you ship those?
I don't think they have shipped yet, I also haven't received my 220 BG. FYI I think we filled out the shipping form for 220 in January as that's when xondat sent out the form
A little bummed out the UV isn't gonna be the same as 220. That's a damn nice purple. :'(Yeah I've had my keycaps for my 280 for two years and they match the 220 pretty much exactly unfortunately. lol
Looking forward to Wednesday's pics, but tentatively I'd wanna go with option 1 or 3 depending on what the 380 LE options end up looking like.
I'd like option 3 personally
hmm. this is a bit harder for me to figure out because of my color choices. could you pm or post on here what my combo looks like xondat? i think i may have set myself up for failure with my color choices, lol.
To move forward, first I will ship all the kits out so that owners can see the exact anodizing mismatch themselves. I'll then start conversations with everyone involved, and gather opinions on what the best solution is for everyone. I'd like to come out of this with everyone as satisfied as they can be given the circumstances. I believe this is the best solution, but ultimately I'll listen to everyone and do my best. If you want to reach out sooner and start talking, feel free to, however I'd like to get everything delivered so proper judgement can be made before taking any action.
I'll send the shipping form tonight and start collecting that information. Shipping will be with DHL, and I won't charge anyone affected by the anodizing mismatch. I'll start assembling units, sorting parts, generally just prepare to start shipping again throughout this month, with the aim of beginning shipping towards the end of the month. Please note I currently don't have my car therefore can't get to the office, but should have it by the end of this week. I have an employee helping out with fulfilment, so it will be completed much quicker than previous batches.
What exactly is the hold up here? I know you came up with your 3 different options for unit owners, but why hasn't any actual action been taken yet? When can we expect to receive our units as you said a month and a half ago?
Going to have to say no - I have no path to reanodize units, and reproducting units will just lead to more trouble. I believe the design plays a large part in the anodizing issues, as the top piece is the same thickness all round, whereas the bottom piece is very short at the front, and tall at the back.
I have no problem if people want to perhaps transfer to a 380 (or another recent project [Valhalla, 378, X60 V2]), not sure if that's of interest to anyone as they're very different projects.
A lot more transfer interest than I expected - let me work it out and get back to y'all in a couple days. I realized I can't both let people transfer but also ship them the board first. I'll most likely begin conversations before shipping boards out. Seems like three scenarios are proving popular: receive BG board and get partial refund; receive BG board and also be able to purchase a limited edition 380; and full transfer to 380.
The posts you are quoting are 5 weeks old. The big update had nothing to do with blue grey. I would just like to see some actual action taken at some point.
Edit: I know you have put a lot of effort into this so please don't think I am implying you aren't doing enough.
MOVING FORWARD FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T RECEIVED A KEYBOARD YET:
To me there are three categories of people:How each category could be handled:
- Want 280 regardless of anodizing, no interest in 380 LE whatsoever
- Want 280 regardless of anodizing, interested in a 380 LE (or another Noxary board such as Valhalla)
- Do not want 280, would like full transfer to 380 LE
Category 1: I'll get boards shipped out ASAP, and won't charge for shipping. I'd be fine with partially refunding ~$100 due to the anodizing issue.
Category 2: As above, will ship ASAP, and won't charge for shipping. Will listen to what sort of options people want with LE (such as brass base etc). It can't get too complex, but certainly able to accomdate some milder requests. Able to accomodate a slightly larger discount on this compared to the partial refund.
Category 3: Complete transfer to 380 LE. As mentioned in Cat 2, can accomodate some milder requests. Will make sure options chosen (such as plate/PCB quantity) line up as best as possible, no "value" should be lost. At least free shipping on the 380 LE, but not sure what else should be put on the table.
Pictures of the 380 prototype for those interested:MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IOIbvAT.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9G81ljg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6QGfskM.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ev4L381.jpg)
FYI this is a polished but not media-blasted prototype, with an aluminum weight. Actual production spec will be anodized with a media-blasted brass weight.
Please let me know what you think of these options. I'll finalize once there has been some discussion (in a minimum of a week), have a form sent out to everyone so they can choose how they want to move forward, and try and get everyone as happy as possible given the circumstances.
Regarding those asking about the shipping form, if you've done it, that's fine. You haven't commited to anything by filling it in :)
The big update has everything to do with Blue Gray, sorry that wasn't obvious enough.
Please, please read this section, but TLDR is that if you haven't received a board, you will have a choice to make, which is why no "actual action" (I assume implying shipping) has happened.
I've sent the resolution form out, via Geekhack DMs.
If looking through my notes, your situation is more unique than normal, I'll also reach out independently shortly.
Only form is the one from 4th Jan right?2nd form went out on Feb 20, for me anyway.
Can anyone get a reply from Anthony? I respond to his (automated?) PM pretty quickly and nothing back, after already being ignored
It was a geekhack PM, not a response to the surveyCan anyone get a reply from Anthony? I respond to his (automated?) PM pretty quickly and nothing back, after already being ignored
I’ve not gone through replies yet.
Just want to check as a 220 person I'm not expected to do anything/fill anything out right? I'm assuming I'll receive a shipping invoice at some point?
Whats the next stage after all responses are accounted for and you've gone through them?
Any update on when we can expect 280 blue grey shipping invoices?
Just want to check as a 220 person I'm not expected to do anything/fill anything out right? I'm assuming I'll receive a shipping invoice at some point?
Also had the same question. I filled out a form months ago with shipping info, but haven't received any invoice yet. If I ordered the wrist rest, will that be shipped separately from the 220?
Anyone want to buy my spot seeing as I cannot get in touch with Anthony?
I've tried emailing now so we'll see if I get anywhere with that
Sadly not much progress on the boxes, I asked 2 and 1 weeks ago for an update, but haven't heard back. Called today and was told it'll be chased tomorrow. I suggested I could visit their location but was told to wait for tomorrow :-\
I want to get these shipped safely to everyone, so the boxes have to fit well. If sizes required already existed, then trust me, I would’ve bought them already. MOQ is 500 so I wanted to get some very basic artwork done as the size is used among other kits,, but I’ll skip that to speed things up, it’s a fair point so thank you.
I want to get these shipped safely to everyone, so the boxes have to fit well. If sizes required already existed, then trust me, I would’ve bought them already. MOQ is 500 so I wanted to get some very basic artwork done as the size is used among other kits,, but I’ll skip that to speed things up, it’s a fair point so thank you.
Thank you for the swift response. In my experience, using cumble paper to fill whatever void is left is more than sufficient, but I'll concede that point if you feel it necessary, that's your call. Thank you for dropping the artwork to save some weeks.
I want to get these shipped safely to everyone, so the boxes have to fit well. If sizes required already existed, then trust me, I would’ve bought them already. MOQ is 500 so I wanted to get some very basic artwork done as the size is used among other kits,, but I’ll skip that to speed things up, it’s a fair point so thank you.
Thank you for the swift response. In my experience, using cumble paper to fill whatever void is left is more than sufficient, but I'll concede that point if you feel it necessary, that's your call. Thank you for dropping the artwork to save some weeks.
also, 5MM brass plate go BRRRRRRshe kinda thicc
Boxes arrived, boards have been packed, and 40% of remaining boards have been collected.
My assistant will continue packing & labelling throughout the next 10 days as I'm out of country. I'll organize a collection when I'm back (27-29th).
Wrist rests will also be shipping, I'll reach out to those that purchased, and collect up to date addresses.
Any concerns, please DM, and I'll reply as soon as I can.
Sadly not yet, just not had the time between myself & assistant to be there and get everything sorted. :'( Back on the 24th so ideally I'd like to wrap everything up by end of month.
got my UV build together. the color actually turned out dope! but my order was missing two sets of stabs and my PMs about it have gone unanswered (not dope :'(). bummer to see this GB tripped up at the finish line after xondat clearly worked hard to make the best of a bad situation.
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i've responded to all of your forms and emailed you about my order, to no response thus far. could you please provide an update? thanks.
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Sooooooo.... When will these go out?
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Sooooooo.... When will these go out?
When I asked status about replacement for my B (C?) stock unit, you said "you have a board, relax", which I am still waiting for replacement mind you, a month later mentioning it. So, you have other boards to type on right? Maybe relax, and wait him to ship these out.
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Sooooooo.... When will these go out?
When I asked status about replacement for my B (C?) stock unit, you said "you have a board, relax", which I am still waiting for replacement mind you, a month later mentioning it. So, you have other boards to type on right? Maybe relax, and wait him to ship these out.
lol so salty
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Sooooooo.... When will these go out?
When I asked status about replacement for my B (C?) stock unit, you said "you have a board, relax", which I am still waiting for replacement mind you, a month later mentioning it. So, you have other boards to type on right? Maybe relax, and wait him to ship these out.
Good to hear Pheyn. If anyone has issues, concerns, etc. Please reach out.
Regarding the status of fulfillment:I believe all discounts & coupons have been sent. Please reach out if you haven't received (but were expecting).
- 4x 280s that need packing
- 4x 280s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x 280 buyers that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
- 7x 220s that need packing
- 12x 220s that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 7x 280 wrist rests that are packed but waiting on current addresses
Sooooooo.... When will these go out?
When I asked status about replacement for my B (C?) stock unit, you said "you have a board, relax", which I am still waiting for replacement mind you, a month later mentioning it. So, you have other boards to type on right? Maybe relax, and wait him to ship these out.
Lol relax you have a 280. Wait for the rest to go out. stop raging lmao
It's Top mount. Just build the board and whenever he ships your replacement top just change it over.
Has anyone received a response through DM's of late? Have sent 3 since the 10th of September without hearing back. :( I did send a new message after reading the most recent update but still no reply.
280:220:
- 4x that need sending - these will be sent by end of month
- 5x people that require replacement parts - these will be packed and sent by end of month
- 1x packed, not heard from since 2019 :(
- 6x that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
280 Wrist Rests
- 9x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
280:220:
- 4x that need sending - these will be sent by end of month
- 5x people that require replacement parts - these will be packed and sent by end of month
- 1x packed, not heard from since 2019 :(
- 6x that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
280 Wrist Rests
- 9x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
I was too ambitious about timing, these will go out on Mon 21st. My apologies.
I think I’m caught up on DMs too.
280:220:
- 4x that need sending - these will be sent by end of month
- 5x people that require replacement parts - these will be packed and sent by end of month
- 1x packed, not heard from since 2019 :(
- 6x that have NOT completed the Resolution Form
280 Wrist Rests
- 9x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
- 6x that are packed but waiting on current addresses
I was too ambitious about timing, these will go out on Mon 21st. My apologies.
I think I’m caught up on DMs too.
Category 3: Complete transfer to 380 LE. As mentioned in Cat 2, can accomodate some milder requests. Will make sure options chosen (such as plate/PCB quantity) line up as best as possible, no "value" should be lost. At least free shipping on the 380 LE, but not sure what else should be put on the table.