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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 21:56:55 »
blank double shot, does that mean the first shot is white and the second shot is white? wow, you guys are genius.  you guys increased the price for no reason!

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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 22:14:06 »
blank double shot, does that mean the first shot is white and the second shot is white? wow, you guys are genius.  you guys increased the price for no reason!

insta-win :D

I like this idea, double shot blanks are great. I bet they would ever so slightly have the legend visible.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 22:14:43 »
blank double shot, does that mean the first shot is white and the second shot is white? wow, you guys are genius.  you guys increased the price for no reason!

insta-win :D

I like this idea, double shot blanks are great. I bet they would ever so slightly have the legend visible.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 22:20:56 »
If this is true.. does that mean SCOOPED F AND J KEYS o.o
I'm hoping for this.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 22:47:49 »
There were blank double shots. Too lazy to find pix right now but they did exist. There were blank double shots that were pad-printed too. May be they were just using up the production capacity while doing double shots for legended shots. That is the only reasonable explanation I have.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:11:36 »
Sure red esc and rgb are great starter candidate... but the possibilities...
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Rowdy would still like to know where these keycaps came from, what yellow they are, and whether it is possible to get a complete set of the yellow ones :)
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:13:40 »
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« Reply #107 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:15:56 »
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:17:52 »
Yeah dat purple.  I believe the consensus on this board is that it was a demo of some kind.  I don't think anyone really knows much about it.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:19:52 »
Yeah dat purple.  I believe the consensus on this board is that it was a demo of some kind.  I don't think anyone really knows much about it.

Second dat purple. We need a company to make us caps that colour.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:21:06 »
That is nice.  Really nice.

It looks like a yellow I could live with :)

And a blue, actually.

And red.

And green.

And, what the heck, the purple too :)

So are keycaps like this available anywhere?
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:30:03 »
That is nice.  Really nice.

It looks like a yellow I could live with :)

And a blue, actually.

And red.

And green.

And, what the heck, the purple too :)

So are keycaps like this available anywhere?

Not that I've ever seen. Let's hope this company can provide us with these colour combos at a low enough MOQ.

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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 27 November 2012, 23:31:02 »
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 00:04:02 »
lol blank DS? what's the point?

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 00:13:17 »
Well why would the first shot be the same grey as in the others?  Doesn't make sense that both undersides show a grey first shot. 


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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 00:32:52 »
I'd be satisfied with a simple Dolch set with modern board compatibility (still include the 1.75x shift of course).

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 00:46:12 »
Someone needs to organise a diaper group buy first, while everyone wees themselves in anticipation :P

Well why would the first shot be the same grey as in the others?  Doesn't make sense that both undersides show a grey first shot. 

Sure it could, depending on how the production is done, it might not be worth doing a single shot for just the one key.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 01:13:29 »
As many other person I love the purple! would love to have some caps with that colour!!

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« Reply #118 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 01:15:18 »
MOQ will be 10,000 I bet.

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 02:01:49 »
I'M THROWING MONEY AT THE SCREEN BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING!

Seriously though, considering the amount of people cross- forums that would want this Cherry stuff, and a LOT of it, I think we could reach some MOQ as such a buy may only ever happen once, and people will get as much as they can.
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 02:06:17 »
Stop counting your chickens before they hatch people... 120 posts in less than 24 hours on such a long shot is ridiculous... Stop posting until there is an official response, then complain/throw money...
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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 02:53:37 »
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« Reply #122 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 03:22:52 »
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« Reply #123 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 03:23:30 »
this one time i went to band camp and played the trumpet.

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« Reply #124 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 03:33:00 »
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« Reply #125 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 04:12:54 »
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 08:52:45 »
Even if moq is somehow as low as lets say 1k. I don't even know if there is that many people across all forums to get it done lol.

 But from the looks of things they are industrial and will most likely be upwards of 10k, so next question, who is gonna drop the order for there new business key set at work? lol

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« Reply #127 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 09:21:57 »
Stop counting your chickens before they hatch people... 120 posts in less than 24 hours on such a long shot is ridiculous... Stop posting until there is an official response, then complain/throw money...
Agreeing with you twice within a few days?! Crazy
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« Reply #128 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 09:35:34 »
Just a random Q out of curiosity, if there where enough people, couldn't we simply have 'our' own molds made? Having worked on PLCs in and around plastic injectors etc these companies make huge ranges of things with plastics, so with our own molds in theory we could then just have anyone make the caps... Is this possible or is double shotting alot more complicated?? (Still learnif about the manufacturing process)

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« Reply #129 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 10:17:39 »
Just a random Q out of curiosity, if there where enough people, couldn't we simply have 'our' own molds made? Having worked on PLCs in and around plastic injectors etc these companies make huge ranges of things with plastics, so with our own molds in theory we could then just have anyone make the caps... Is this possible or is double shotting alot more complicated?? (Still learnif about the manufacturing process)

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #130 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:03:15 »
Just a random Q out of curiosity, if there where enough people, couldn't we simply have 'our' own molds made? Having worked on PLCs in and around plastic injectors etc these companies make huge ranges of things with plastics, so with our own molds in theory we could then just have anyone make the caps... Is this possible or is double shotting alot more complicated?? (Still learnif about the manufacturing process)

complicated
and custom molds will cost a ton

Yeah I know molds are expensive just wasn't sure how they where quite made is all!

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« Reply #131 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:22:37 »
Stop counting your chickens before they hatch people... 120 posts in less than 24 hours on such a long shot is ridiculous... Stop posting until there is an official response, then complain/throw money...
Agreeing with you twice within a few days?! Crazy

Same. Going to see a lot of sadfaces when their dreams get crushed.

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« Reply #132 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:47:36 »

Same. Going to see a lot of sadfaces when their dreams get crushed.

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« Reply #133 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:48:33 »

Same. Going to see a lot of sadfaces when their dreams get crushed.

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« Reply #134 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:57:46 »
From their website:
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Expanding of our existing portfolio


In order to meet the increasing demand for individual input systems, we have expanded our portfolio by manufacturing keycaps. With this step we are able to offer our clients a whole new level of flexibility.

For more details please see our performance sheet.

We will gladly consider your individual request.

Looks like they just got into the keycap game, after manufacturing keyboards since about 1992. This news release was dated 12 June of this year. I wonder if they bought the molds and equipment from Cherry Corp.? Or maybe they are just now open to custom orders, after making standard Cherry Corp. stuff? They do state "individual request" there, so maybe MOQ will not be an issue. Or maybe they mean "unique." So much speculation so far.
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 11:59:25 »
Well, 2nd run of red esc was only like 1000, and similar for doubleshot RGB so I am not too worried. Though that was back when Cherry was still ordering doubleshots and it was through them... but i doubt the moq would have changed too much in a couple year. Also as far as I can tell they are still making the MX version of WEY keyboards, so full set in standard color may be no problem since they would have those in regular production anyway... but we will see. Having any new legends made may be more challenging, but I don't think it's going to be impossible to get existing things done. I mean, when I contact Cherry I asked for pretty low amounts so not sure if they would even gave me any info if it was impossible.
Still have not heard back from GMK though, so it's still just speculative.

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« Reply #136 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 12:01:30 »
Good analysis for the dream crushers

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« Reply #137 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 12:02:58 »
To ensure your dream stay alive, FIGHT!  :cool:

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« Reply #138 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 12:49:52 »
Hey lysol.
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 13:00:13 »
Well, 2nd run of red esc was only like 1000, and similar for doubleshot RGB so I am not too worried. Though that was back when Cherry was still ordering doubleshots and it was through them... but i doubt the moq would have changed too much in a couple year.

If Cherry ordered thousands and again thousands of different kinds, then it would have been easy for GMK to accept an order from them on only a few extras. Much like companies who have relations with each other might sell a prototype item to the same price as the production run, because they anticipate that the production will later be ordered from them as well.

Even tough they accepted making a few for Cherry, we may not get the same deal since there is no potential of us ever ordering many, or continuously ordering large amounts of other kinds on the side. Thus, they might have accepted a low MOQ from Cherry but not from us.


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« Reply #140 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 13:28:43 »
Yes I had my PM disabled since too many people from the groupbuy kept sending order request by PM instead of using the appropriate form. I turned PM back on now.

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« Reply #141 on: Wed, 28 November 2012, 13:33:01 »
Now I don't have to msg you on DT anymore!

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« Reply #142 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 03:33:47 »
Even tough they accepted making a few for Cherry, we may not get the same deal since there is no potential of us ever ordering many, or continuously ordering large amounts of other kinds on the side. Thus, they might have accepted a low MOQ from Cherry but not from us.

But I thought the redescs weren’t ordered by Cherry ?

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« Reply #143 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 05:59:49 »
Even tough they accepted making a few for Cherry, we may not get the same deal since there is no potential of us ever ordering many, or continuously ordering large amounts of other kinds on the side. Thus, they might have accepted a low MOQ from Cherry but not from us.

But I thought the redescs weren’t ordered by Cherry ?

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« Reply #144 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:57:29 »
For all the dream crushers, I send you this:

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Dear Mr. Wang,
 
thank you very much for your request. You are right, we have the original Cherry tools for two-shot-molded MX caps.
 
Can you give me a more detailed description of what are you looking for?
 
Kind regards
 
Christoph Kredler

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:58:44 »
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:00:14 »
For all the dream crushers, I send you this:

Quote from: GMK Electronics
Dear Mr. Wang,
 
thank you very much for your request. You are right, we have the original Cherry tools for two-shot-molded MX caps.
 
Can you give me a more detailed description of what are you looking for?
 
Kind regards
 
Christoph Kredler
Awesome. So the tools they bought are from Cherry?

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:02:37 »
For all the dream crushers, I send you this:

Quote from: GMK Electronics
Dear Mr. Wang,
 
thank you very much for your request. You are right, we have the original Cherry tools for two-shot-molded MX caps.
 
Can you give me a more detailed description of what are you looking for?
 
Kind regards
 
Christoph Kredler

and now to find out the smallest batch they can do is 10k per profile!

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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #148 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:06:00 »
man i hope the pricing won't be crazy like SP
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Re: GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?
« Reply #149 on: Thu, 29 November 2012, 10:06:43 »
From their website:
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12.06.12
Expanding of our existing portfolio


In order to meet the increasing demand for individual input systems, we have expanded our portfolio by manufacturing keycaps. With this step we are able to offer our clients a whole new level of flexibility.

For more details please see our performance sheet.

We will gladly consider your individual request.

Looks like they just got into the keycap game, after manufacturing keyboards since about 1992. This news release was dated 12 June of this year. I wonder if they bought the molds and equipment from Cherry Corp.? CONFIRMED Or maybe they are just now open to custom orders, after making standard Cherry Corp. stuff? They do state "individual request" there, so maybe MOQ will not be an issue. Or maybe they mean "unique." So much speculation so far.
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