GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?

[rayuki]

One thing I will say right now is that it's evident that there are other retailers interested in coordinating with GMK.  Please, please if you are doing this reach out to either lysol or myself.  It will help in the grand scale of things and allow us (as a community) to develop better and broader products through good relations with our manufacturers.

We don't want to step on eachothers feet and end up making the same thing.  We're not here to expose your sales model, but we do want to understand the MOQ and pricing better so that it isn't hidden to everyone.  This works well with SP today, and I imagine it could work the same way with GMK.

this is pretty much exactly what i was thinking dan, all very well and good to keep both separate but also no need to be competing with each other if there is no communication and somehow we both end up making the same product requests.

at least if we know whats in the works with the other retailers working with GMK we can go and make something different.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yeah they have all the common keys we will need like 1.25 bottom row and fulltouch 1.75 caps lock as well as 1.5 mods and stepped caps of course. No need to use SP for any supplements to Cherry sets anymore. Modifiers pack is one of things being considered for first groupbuy.

[Acetrak]

Plus Cherry has a couple special space bars

[guilleguillaume]

Yeah they have all the common keys we will need like 1.25 bottom row and fulltouch 1.75 caps lock as well as 1.5 mods and stepped caps of course. No need to use SP for any supplements to Cherry sets anymore. Modifiers pack is one of things being considered for first groupbuy.

Did Cherry ever produce a 1.75 Control key to fit on standard Caps Lock placement?

Just curious about it.

[metafour]

Yeah they have all the common keys we will need like 1.25 bottom row and fulltouch 1.75 caps lock as well as 1.5 mods and stepped caps of course. No need to use SP for any supplements to Cherry sets anymore. Modifiers pack is one of things being considered for first groupbuy.

Did Cherry ever produce a 1.75 Control key to fit on standard Caps Lock placement?

Just curious about it.

If GMK can make this for us I will be so stoked. Full touch, center-stemmed, Cherry profile goodness.

[SmallFry]

It'd be cool to get 1 unit bottom row mods too:) I could use some black 1.5 mods for my Phantom and some nice 1 unit ones if we can get them double shot:)

[OrangeJewce]

One thing I will say right now is that it's evident that there are other retailers interested in coordinating with GMK.  Please, please if you are doing this reach out to either lysol or myself.  It will help in the grand scale of things and allow us (as a community) to develop better and broader products through good relations with our manufacturers.

We don't want to step on eachothers feet and end up making the same thing.  We're not here to expose your sales model, but we do want to understand the MOQ and pricing better so that it isn't hidden to everyone.  This works well with SP today, and I imagine it could work the same way with GMK.

this is pretty much exactly what i was thinking dan, all very well and good to keep both separate but also no need to be competing with each other if there is no communication and somehow we both end up making the same product requests.

at least if we know whats in the works with the other retailers working with GMK we can go and make something different.

There's a limit to this...If any vendor knows that if they make it nobody else will, that gives them incentive to monopolize. Let's not take this non-competition to the extreme.

Cheers,

[aggiejy]

There's a limit to this...If any vendor knows that if they make it nobody else will, that gives them incentive to monopolize. Let's not take this non-competition to the extreme.

Cheers,

We will know roughly what their costs are I guess. (Assuming GMK doesn't charge us more for being a bit more high maintenance to work with.   So, I think if a retailer got tooooo crazy, we'd know and things would sort themselves.  That said, I'd rather have more sets unfairly priced than fewer sets cheaply priced.  But, that's just me... I'm sure some people only want one good set maybe.  (I just haven't met them yet.)

Also, unless someone talked to Brian at EK, he just said he has more cherry caps coming... not specifically full sets.  He could be referring to more novelty keys, RGB sets, etc.  But, I wouldn't be surprised if he did some common combos either.  This will be interesting either way. 

Let's all hope there isn't a huge MOQ, else we aren't going to see too much stuff from them regardless.  Best case, they come around to how SP has recently.

[fl0w3n]

Personally I would love to see a Coffee & Cream set that involved modifiers in that nice deep chocolate brown color.

That was what I was talking about before exactly hashbaz.

God I'm glad to hear this is the page you guys are on. 

I just received some sweet light brown and coffee test keys today, and goodness I love the color.  Can't wait for a whole set. 

[aggiejy]

I'd be all for some coffee and cream keys.

[agor]

Since there was a whole effort to replicate the Cherry Font for SP to create a Dolch set... wouldn't this be the kind of "Number 1" Group Buy? Makes sense to me at least

[baldgye]

I am exercising my right as the forum's one and only hashbaz to veto the Miami set.

Let's do something that's not fugly.

How dare you

[Halverson]

I am exercising my right as the forum's one and only hashbaz to veto the Miami set.

Let's do something that's not fugly.

How dare you

Miami 2013!

[BimboBB]

Also, unless someone talked to Brian at EK, he just said he has more cherry caps coming... not specifically full sets.  He could be referring to more novelty keys, RGB sets, etc.  But, I wouldn't be surprised if he did some common combos either. This will be interesting either way. 

This is why i am really unhappy with that retailers stepping in. They take out any flexibility of a groubbuy to get other layout than ANSI, as they most probably just stock this ones because its getting sold easiest.

[pitashen]

Yeah they have all the common keys we will need like 1.25 bottom row and fulltouch 1.75 caps lock as well as 1.5 mods and stepped caps of course. No need to use SP for any supplements to Cherry sets anymore. Modifiers pack is one of things being considered for first groupbuy.

YES! moogle kit replacement!

[BiNiaRiS]

Also, unless someone talked to Brian at EK, he just said he has more cherry caps coming... not specifically full sets.  He could be referring to more novelty keys, RGB sets, etc.  But, I wouldn't be surprised if he did some common combos either. This will be interesting either way. 

This is why i am really unhappy with that retailers stepping in. They take out any flexibility of a groubbuy to get other layout than ANSI, as they most probably just stock this ones because its getting sold easiest.

We'd all have to refuse to buy from then and coordinate group buys which I'd be all in for. But I don't thick the average geekhacker has any patience or would really care.

[leesofi]

in kbdmania, drugER contacted to GMK and will make GB. drugER will order 100 over full-set.
i hope each geekhack and kbdmania gb goods are different.
Also he said GMk need not huge MOQ. nothing about detail price.

[fruktstund]

in kbdmania, drugER contacted to GMK and will make GB. drugER will order 100 over full-set.
i hope each geekhack and kbdmania gb goods are different.
Also he said GMk need not huge MOQ. nothing about detail price.

Sounds like the MOQ isn't that high then. Nice!

By the way, I don't know how it usually works with groupbuys at KBDmania, but would it be possible for us westerners to join the group buy too? If drugER for example has planned an RBG set, then it wouldn't make sense for the people here at GH to also do it, I think.

[Batmann]

These are very good news
Still for all EU folks here, we have to figure something out so the keys won't have to fly overseas and then back in EU
And also the taxes issue
I received a 250$ order from NewYork and had to pay 100$ more in taxes, something we probably want to avoid..!

[fruktstund]

These are very good news
Still for all EU folks here, we have to figure something out so the keys won't have to fly overseas and then back in EU
And also the taxes issue
I received a 250$ order from NewYork and had to pay 100$ more in taxes, something we probably want to avoid..!

Yeah, of course. The best thing would probably be to have a trustworthy German member (or someone else in the EU) receive the keycaps first and distribute the keycaps in Europe, as well as send the keycaps ordered by Americans to the US and have a nice guy such as lysol or Dan distribute them there. Something like that?
Alternatively we could ask GMK to split the order themselves, but that would probably be a bad idea.

I'd also rather not pay taxes. I think we have the highest regular (regular as in "about everything that's not food or books") VAT here in Sweden (25% compared to 20% in the UK for example), and I'm probably not alone in not wanting to have to pay this when it could be avoided.

[damorgue]

As fruktund mentioned, some countries are better suited. Germany also happens to have some of the cheapest international shipping rates in EU, so someone from Germany would be perfect.

[nntnam]

As fruktund mentioned, some countries are better suited. Germany also happens to have some of the cheapest international shipping rates in EU, so someone from Germany would be perfect.

I can confirm that. The Germany shipping service is amazing. Cheap and extremely fast. I bought a keyboard from Germany and it only took 3 days to arrive in Japan. (using the cheapest option)

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes something smart will be worked out with the logistics, no need to worry about that.
Sure Cherry made 1.75 C-profile Control to replace caps lock, and 1.5/1.25 B-profile Caps lock. If there is enough demand for these will include in modifier pack.

[OrangeJewce]

in kbdmania, drugER contacted to GMK and will make GB. drugER will order 100 over full-set.
i hope each geekhack and kbdmania gb goods are different.
Also he said GMk need not huge MOQ. nothing about detail price.

We'll just have to wait and see. I really want us all to avoid "race" conditions where one community QQs about getting an idea first and yet someone else does it. Not what the global keyboard community should be about imo. To achieve what you want leesofi will require a lot of communication. GL to you.

Cheers,

[Alessandro]

I'll be happy to distribute in the Uk depending on the arrangements made.

[IvanIvanovich]

I contact to drugER to see what they are going to be doing. Hopefully we can all work together for our common goals. I'm tired of all this regional fracture.

[boost]

I'm tired of all this regional fracture.

Me too.

[OrangeJewce]

I contact to drugER to see what they are going to be doing. Hopefully we can all work together for our common goals. I'm tired of all this regional fracture.

Thanks for being proactive on this lysol. I third your statement.

Cheers,

[theultrazord]

I contact to drugER to see what they are going to be doing. Hopefully we can all work together for our common goals. I'm tired of all this regional fracture.

Thanks for being proactive on this lysol. I third your statement.

Cheers,

This is why Lysol is one of my favorite GHers. Always on top of things and always mature. Lets get the worldwide community on this!

[leesofi]

peace~!

[kbdfr]

I contact to drugER to see what they are going to be doing. Hopefully we can all work together for our common goals. I'm tired of all this regional fracture.

Thanks for being proactive on this lysol. I third your statement.

Cheers,

This is why Lysol is one of my favorite GHers. Always on top of things and always mature. Lets get the worldwide community on this!

I'd like to chime in
I very much appreciate that lysol also actively informs and includes Deskthority in this endeavour, and that he is aware of the issues involved for non-US layouts. That's real community spirit.

[IvanIvanovich]

it's a big world out there beyond America.

[hashbaz]

Good guy lysol uniting the clans under his noble Cherry banner!

As always, I hope we can work with the Koreans to make awesome things cheaper for all.

[longweight]

I'm looking forward to some Cherry sets being stocked by retailers for ease of access and low pricing

[IvanIvanovich]

Ease of access sure, low price... well that remains to be seen. Sure retail may be able to buy more sets at a time for a lower cost, but then they have thier mark up. So maybe it could be similar to our groupbuy price, but I suspect it is likely to be more depending on the retailer and how much profit they need to make on them.

Not that I am complain, just a fact of the matter.

[Glissant]

I am really glad this is being made available. More "Cherry" double shots to the people .

[Alessandro]

AFter missing out on the recent find I'm now desperate for cryllic stuff!

[jdcarpe]

I am really glad this is being made available. More "Cherry" double shots to the people .

More Glissant to the people! Where you been, bro? J/K. But really, we've missed you on here.

AFter missing out on the recent find I'm now desperate for cryllic stuff!

You also missed lysol's Cherry replica dyesub GB?

[OrangeJewce]

it's a big world out there beyond America.

The world consists of any country other than America?

mind=blown.

Cheers,

[Alessandro]

Yes, I did. I would love original cherry thickness though.

[Glissant]

jdcarpe, still around mostly lurking when I have time =). I miss being here too, but time just isn't cutting it with deaths in the family and work xD. Thanks for caring . Send me a message if you feel like telling me how things are with you, J.D.

[SmallFry]

jdcarpe, still around mostly lurking when I have time =). I miss being here too, but time just isn't cutting it with deaths in the family and work xD. Thanks for caring . Send me a message if you feel like telling me how things are with you, J.D.

Glad to see you're still kicking, sir! Hope ya can come back soon!

[shawn o]

Curious why SP was used for moogle kits to begin with rather than this company? Did no one bother to ask Cherry who made their keycaps?

[longweight]

It is quite exciting that we might be able to get all of the Cherry variants without paying stupid money!

[rowdy]

Ease of access sure, low price... well that remains to be seen. Sure retail may be able to buy more sets at a time for a lower cost, but then they have thier mark up. So maybe it could be similar to our groupbuy price, but I suspect it is likely to be more depending on the retailer and how much profit they need to make on them.

Not that I am complain, just a fact of the matter.

I wonder if price will be higher initially, until the novelty wears off and everyone realises that new Cherry sets are here to stay.

[IvanIvanovich]

In an ideal world they would be retail for the cost of lasered oem profile crap as replacement set, and come on keyboards as stock. Back to the 80's.
Why was GMK not used before? No one knew, or if they did made no effort to let us know. I know I contacted Cherry many times asking about various things and before this last time I only ever got terse answer that they were discontinued and nothing more. I guess I just got lucky with more helpful employee happened to answer my email.

[BimboBB]

According their homepage they just started with that doubleshot productions last summer.

[BiNiaRiS]

It is quite exciting that we might be able to get all of the Cherry variants without paying stupid money!

I'm willing to bet that with taxes, shipping, etc. full sets (with nothing extra) will still be in the $80-$100 range. Granted that's cheaper than some sets sell for but significantly more than I have ever paid for a doubleshot set.

And if the MOQ is too high, there will still be lots of vintage caps that won't be in high enough demand to get to 100, 200, 500 or w/e MOQ they have established.

[IvanIvanovich]

Just a little teaser...

[rowdy]

CV all teh way!!!!!1!!1one!!1