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Offline SlipperyPeteED

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 06:34:26 »
Why the name change?

Offline Joaquox

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:28:57 »
I'd suggest adding ISO Enter keys into the Norde kit also. Otherwise Norde users have to buy the UK ISO kit for one key only :)

This, and make the ortho kit with icon mods please.
« Last Edit: Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:30:30 by Joaquox »

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:34:37 »
Why the name change?

MUJI has issues with the use of their name (or references to it) when it's not them. To use it legally you might be obligated to officially license the keyset, which is a long and lengthy process. [Praise mgsickler and Novelkeys for their ability to get Star Wars on board with their themed keysets.] You can check the rest of the thread to see the discussion about it.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 07:35:19 »
Hey hey! Really love this colourway.

Some thoughts on the current kits:

Alphas
  • Is there any need for the accent grave key? Seems like an odd position for an accent. (though if this is an intentional design choice, that's cool)

Mods
  • Any chance of "Caps Lock" being replaced with "Caps" on stepped caps (and possibly full too)? Having two lines while the rest of the keys have one looks off.
  • Could R3 1.5u Delete be changed to Backspace/Bksp? (or at least have both options)
  • It'd also be nice to have 2*1.5u code added.
  • I also take issue with the sheer amount of nav keys, but I can see you're taking feedback on that via IC form.

UK ISO
  • See previous comment on accent grave key.
  • R2 3£ should be replaced with R2 \|.
  • Please add icon ISO enters so it won't be the only text key on an icon mod board  ;)

Spacebars
  • Extra B makes sense to go here instead of 40s.
  • I'm unsure if KAT has moulds for both off centre and centred 6u space.

Numpad
  • See previous comment on two line Num Lock, consider replacing with Num.
  • As KAT has a different top row (R5), support for 1800 boards should be added here. This would need R5 Ins, Del, Home, End, Pg Up, Pg Dn, along with an R4 Pause.

40s
  • This currently appears to be a GMK style 40s kit, where buyers are expected to buy base as well. This is unnecessary for KAT, and proves to be expensive (and thus offputting) for most buyers. For a better approach, I recommend either a 40s/Ortho mod kit like Atlantis, or full 40s and Ortho mod kits like Lich.
  • See comment about extra B in spacebars.

NorDe
  • As mentioned above, ISO enter should be added here.
  • If you're sticking with the accent grave, there are 6 keys you can add here for other languages to use this. See Lich for these keys.

Colevrak
  • R2 1.75u Enter should be Backspace. (and thus wouldn't need an accent.)
I also never realised that the homing keys could spell Haunt, that's cool

Ergo (this kit does not cover Ortho, only Boardwalk)
  • R1 1.5u Home and End should be Fn and Enter.
  • Consider adding r2 1u Pg Up and Pg Dn, for better Boardwalk coverage.
  • Consider replacing the vertical 1.5u Fn and Scroll Lock keys with something else - I personally went with Page Up/Down and Lower/Raise for Lich.
  • There are currently a plethora of R1 Alt, Ctrl and Code. Consider changing some of these to other legends.
  • Accent thumbkeys might be a worthy addition, along with accented Esc and Enter.

This may seem like a lot, but I hope it's helpful. Good luck with your set, I'll definitely want to join whenever this goes live.  :thumb:

Offline eas

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 27 January 2020, 12:53:54 »
Love this. Hope the new Ortho kit would easily cover the Preonic.

Offline KorbenDallas

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 03:19:41 »
Would you consider moving the extra "B" to the base kit?

Alice layout boards are becoming more common with all the clones finished and in the work. I understand the Alice is an ergo board but  it can be covered by the base and spacebar kits. I'm also aware there are some outliers like the Prime_E but those would need the 40s kit anyways. Just my suggestion, definitely not a deal breaker. This set looks great and I'm looking forward to renders :thumb:

Edit: extra "B"added to the Alphas as I realized the alphas and mods are split up. GMK syndrome I guess?  :p
« Last Edit: Tue, 28 January 2020, 03:24:26 by KorbenDallas »

Offline danieljgrouse

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 03:59:48 »
I agree that the extra B should always be either in Alphas/base or in the Spacebar kit

Offline BuddhaBen

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 22:27:16 »
I am bout this color way for a all red 65 case I just jumped in on. This would look sick.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI (formerly known as KAT MUJI)
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:54:32 »
Love the colors, and icon mods. Definitely in !
 Any idea of an approximate timeframe ?

Offline Koniotaur

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 05:38:42 »
I wonder if this is still going to happen, it seems to be abandoned.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:21:22 »
I wonder if this is still going to happen, it seems to be abandoned.
Sorry, just been busy with life. Had some renders done recently and I'm in the process of finalizing kits.

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Offline Koniotaur

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 13:32:22 »
That's a great news, looking forward to grabbing some of that blood red  :thumb: Also glad you responded, probably many of us were wondering whats going on.
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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 09:56:19 »
Do you have Discord to follow this IC?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 12:42:32 »
I like it. Simple and clean!

Offline marshskitow

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:36:47 »
Hello! I really like the colora and everything, but as usual, living in switzerland i will not be able to buy this nice set.

Do you think the norde kit could include switzerland ? Or at lest a french kit?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 09:29:29 »
Hey guys, it's been a while since the last update hasn't it? I had some personal issues to sort out, but now that those issues have been resolved, I guess this set deserves an update. Thank you everyone for your patience and apologies to all eagerly waiting for this set to run.

Updates | 更新の概要
This update sees a number of changes, most of which have been reserved for the child kits, following feedback from numerous community members (special thanks to u/depletedvespene and u/eskimojo who took the time to break down what was wrong/missing previously). With this update, I would like to state that the kits are more or less finalized pending glaring issues or omissions.

Kits | キット
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Renders | レンダリング
Katakana Alphas & Icon Mods on AKI-S
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Latin Alphas & Text Mods on HEX.6C
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Giving Back | 博愛
Let me preface this by saying that growing up some 20 years ago, I was fortunate to have access to a well-developed public library organization in a system which placed much emphasis on education. It was an environment which aided immensely in cultivating my curiosity and whetting my appetite for knowledge. However, even now, the same cannot be said for all children around the world, particularly in less developed nations.

As such, before I even approach vendors, I would like to tentatively pledge 75% of my cut as 'designer' of this set (sans cost of production e.g. renders) towards Room to Read - a non-profit organization committed to improving literacy and gender equality in education in the developing world. Of course, if something can be worked out with the vendors, that'd be even better.

Changelog | 更新暦
1.Streamlined Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys for both modifier kits
2.Added 'F13' key to both modifier kits
3.Added North kit
4.Updated and split 40s kit into Text and Icons
5.Updated Colevrak, Ergo and Ortho kits (sorry, text-only)
6.Added missing ISO accent keys

To-do List | 予定表
1.Finalize deskmat designs
2.Approach vendors to get pricing quotes
3.Contact Room to Read, pending interest gauge in IC
4.Reach out to artisan makers for collabs


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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated)
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 10:16:38 »
Great to see this moving again! The kits look a lot better.

I have an issue and a request:

1) R3 3£ isn't needed for the UK ISO kit.

2) Would it be possible to get a R4 Pause key in the numpad kit? It's used in some 1800 layouts.


« Last Edit: Fri, 07 August 2020, 00:07:02 by eskimojo »

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated)
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 10:26:28 »
Wow this set looks so fresh. I believe the link for Room to Read is currently broken, but otherwise I love your pledge to give back!

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated)
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 20:47:27 »
Great to see this moving again! The kits look a lot better.

I have an issue and a request:

1) R2 3£ isn't needed for the UK ISO kit.

2) Would it be possible to get a R4 Pause key in the numpad kit? It's used in some 1800 layouts.

Thanks! I will be adding this in in the next update.

Wow this set looks so fresh. I believe the link for Room to Read is currently broken, but otherwise I love your pledge to give back!

Link fixed! Thanks for pointing it out!


On another note, someone suggested on the Reddit thread that I should add in an Icon Ortho kit. What do you guys think?

Offline parablol

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated 06.08.20)
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 09 August 2020, 01:42:46 »
That ergo kit would make this perfect for a red anodized plate RGBKB Sol 2 kit I've been meaning to build.

Offline Joaquox

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated)
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 09 August 2020, 03:49:37 »
On another note, someone suggested on the Reddit thread that I should add in an Icon Ortho kit. What do you guys think?
Ortho should always have icon mods.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated 06.08.20)
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 09 August 2020, 16:28:20 »
I've been wanting to try KAT profile, I like these colours! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated 06.08.20)
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 06:17:08 »
No novelties for this set though?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Kits Updated 06.08.20)
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 11:30:08 »
No novelties for this set though?
Much like the inspiration behind this set, the idea is for the set to be as minimalist and streamlined as possible, with little excess, if any. As such, I have made the conscious decision to keep the number of novelties to the 2 included in each set of the alphas.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 14:08:04 »
AM ON THE LOOKOUT FOR AN NA and EU VENDOR FOR THIS SET! HMU IF YOU'RE KEEN! THANK YOU!



Updates | 更新の概要
This update sees a minor update to both numpad kits as well the addition of an Icon Ortho kit.





Changelog | 更新暦
1.R4 Pause key added to both numpad kits
2.Added Icon Ortho kit

To-do List | 予定表
1.Finalize list of themed products, including, but not limited to, deskmats, cables, metallic caps etc.
2.Approach vendors to get pricing quotes
3.Contact Room to Read, pending interest gauge in IC
4.Reach out to artisan makers for collabs

Additional Notes | その他の注意事項
The NERDSswithKEEBS Discord server has been set up to make keeping track of this project, as well as others in the pipeline, easier. To become a NERD: https://discord.gg/Yr4nf52
Or, if you belong to the school of thought that believes a picture says a thousand words, give @NERDSwithKEEBS a follow on Instagram.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 20 August 2020, 19:18:48 »
Really liking the simplicity.  I'm going for the alphas and 40s most likely.
Also interested in a deskmat.
Praying that an EU vendor comes. 

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 20 August 2020, 23:31:11 »
The Japanese you used for the packaging is wrong, my friend.

シンプルで洗練されたのデザイン The use of の in this sentence is wrong. Did you use an automatic translator? That's one of the problems that machines often get wrong.

シンプルで洗練されたデザイン This is what happens if you write this sentence correctly. I hope it helps you  ;)

Offline KurageOuji

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 00:04:10 »
The Japanese you used for the packaging is wrong, my friend.

シンプルで洗練されたのデザイン The use of の in this sentence is wrong. Did you use an automatic translator? That's one of the problems that machines often get wrong.

シンプルで洗練されたデザイン This is what happens if you write this sentence correctly. I hope it helps you  ;)

Really like this project! I saw that too, and it also made me start to wonder about the name of the set, and by extension, the two only novelties for 無銘 in the alphas kit. I didn't want to come off rude in case this was actually what kanji you wanted to use, but  無銘 means "unsigned" while 無名, which is what first came to mind when i saw the words KAT MUMEI, means "nameless" which i feel sorta fits more with the idea that Muji inspires, "無印" being "unmarked/brand-less" from 無印良品. I only bring this up because it affects the novelties and just want to make sure this was your intent.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 06 February 2021, 22:37:24 »
Hope this runs eventually even if it's in 2022.

Offline Retne

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘 (Looking for VENDORS)
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 08:28:59 »
No extra B in the Spacebars kit for Alice boards?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 04:33:58 »
The Japanese you used for the packaging is wrong, my friend.

シンプルで洗練されたのデザイン The use of の in this sentence is wrong. Did you use an automatic translator? That's one of the problems that machines often get wrong.

シンプルで洗練されたデザイン This is what happens if you write this sentence correctly. I hope it helps you  ;)

Oooh thanks for that. Will change it in the next update. Haha at that point of time I was using one, but my study of Japanese has progressed to the point where I realize it's a mistake too. :D

No extra B in the Spacebars kit for Alice boards?

Thanks for catching that. It will be added in the next update.

Hope this runs eventually even if it's in 2022.

Oh, look out for it later this year. Maybe an announcement of sorts soon. ;)

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 07:40:24 »
so glad to see that this is still in the works!! i love muji so much lol

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Re: [IC] KAT MUMEI | キャット無銘
« Reply #82 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:51:24 »
so glad to see that this is still in the works!! i love muji so much lol
Hehe thanks Av! All the best with SA Ramses this week!

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