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Offline ZyBeR

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1000 on: Thu, 29 September 2022, 17:18:19 »
i'll be making a small claims court case but will update people here on things I am able to share on the process.
Any updates to share?

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1001 on: Thu, 29 September 2022, 19:35:58 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1002 on: Thu, 29 September 2022, 19:54:51 »
Wow, 2022 is the ALICE year?

Do I tell him?

You see this a lot lately. It's just someone trying to boost their post count so they can sell us stuff.
Usually wrong

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1003 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 06:05:47 »
Wow, 2022 is the ALICE year?

Do I tell him?

You see this a lot lately. It's just someone trying to boost their post count so they can sell us stuff.

The name and bio make it super obvious. I just find it really funny that they commented on this specific thread and the GSKT with positive thoughts.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1004 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 12:33:20 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1005 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 12:48:08 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1006 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 13:14:25 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Man I'm still glad i got my gateron fc switches from him >.> granted it was only like a pack so i can add them to my switch collection


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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1007 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 18:47:23 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1008 on: Sat, 01 October 2022, 23:07:33 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.

there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.

E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.

i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.

that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1009 on: Sun, 02 October 2022, 07:19:02 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.

there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.

E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.

i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.

that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.

I can't say for Jaxx as what he intended or not, but I'm of the same opinion that what makes this different is this was possibly the first case of the runner simply proofing out of existence. Jane V2 and the Notary 280 were harsh, but the runner was there somehow and didn't ghost people at this level
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Offline FearsomeCubedWarrior

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1010 on: Sun, 02 October 2022, 09:50:29 »
Maybe first, but not the last.
Let's not forget Lynx L50. Very discrete, very silent, very scammy.

Offline Pandamom98

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1011 on: Sun, 02 October 2022, 23:08:36 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.

there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.

E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.

i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.

that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.

I joined this hobby too late to know about the e8v1 but man that kinda sours how i feel about the e7v2 i bought a few months ago :/


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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1012 on: Mon, 03 October 2022, 08:45:18 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

yeah sprit was low 5 digits, this is likely mid 6 (my math has it around 300k). polartype could be up there but i honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure.

there have been a couple other mid 6 exit scams. team redline was like 100-200, for example. they're nothing new in keyboards.

E8v1 was a pretty major one that ended up working out. i think when i made that post i was thinking of that guy who faked having cancer and took all the GB money to buy a bunch of gucci goods or something. was that dolphin v3? i think those boards also eventually went out, though.

i think what makes this so unusual (and therefore keeps us all posting in the thread) is the fact that it doesn't look like people will be getting their boards. even with those other GBs, including more recent ones like moon v2 and gskt, at least there's a pretty clear potential people might actually get their boards. even stuff like 280 and jane v2 CE, it's clear that the runner just made mistakes, not that they were ever trying to exit scam. even mech27v2 ended up with the affected people getting refunds not too long ago.

that's why i'm of the belief that jaxx wasn't going into this trying to scam people -- i think he just royally ****ed up somewhere in the process and is ghosting everyone to avoid responsibility. that doesn't make it any more or less OK, and i'm just speculating here. i don't think we'll ever really know what happened here unless jaxx comes out of hiding and says something. at this point i find that to be a remote to nonexistent possibility.

I joined this hobby too late to know about the e8v1 but man that kinda sours how i feel about the e7v2 i bought a few months ago :/

naw exclusive was cool, it was the other ppl he was working with back then who sucked. they weren't involved anymore after e8v1
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Offline Mr.Elli0t

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1013 on: Tue, 11 October 2022, 08:41:05 »
It's been over 2 years (about 2.5 years) since the group buy ended. It's been over a year since the last update on Discord (9/18/21). How are there no updates since a year ago...

Jaxx, if you're still here and reading through these comments, please give us some update, even if it's the same as the previous update letting us know that there is no update...

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1014 on: Tue, 11 October 2022, 15:44:19 »
It's been over 2 years (about 2.5 years) since the group buy ended. It's been over a year since the last update on Discord (9/18/21). How are there no updates since a year ago...

Jaxx, if you're still here and reading through these comments, please give us some update, even if it's the same as the previous update letting us know that there is no update...

I think Jaxx is pleading the 5th on this one

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1015 on: Tue, 11 October 2022, 21:49:47 »
I'm super glad I got out of this buy early. I really don't understand what Jaxx expects us to think of him when it pretty much looks like he has no intentions of even trying to keep this GB alive even though he keeps saying that he intends on finishing Rukia eventually.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1016 on: Wed, 12 October 2022, 12:43:34 »
It's been over 2 years (about 2.5 years) since the group buy ended. It's been over a year since the last update on Discord (9/18/21). How are there no updates since a year ago...

Jaxx, if you're still here and reading through these comments, please give us some update, even if it's the same as the previous update letting us know that there is no update...

Last active on this website: Sat, 18 September 2021, 20:45:39

He hasn't even come back (logged in at least) in over a year now.

Offline ZyBeR

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1017 on: Wed, 12 October 2022, 13:49:28 »
Would be interesting to get an update on the legal action(s) that some people initiated.

Offline Mr.Elli0t

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1018 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 07:29:27 »
Bump  :blank:

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1019 on: Wed, 02 November 2022, 00:41:18 »
bump
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1020 on: Fri, 04 November 2022, 04:08:55 »
After looking at the timeline again, seems a little suspicious that Jaxx kept leading everyone then vanished around the time chargebacks weren’t really possible. We were fed lies and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile he’s laughing to the bank. Situations like these make me hope karma is a thing.

Offline ZyBeR

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1021 on: Fri, 04 November 2022, 04:33:11 »
After looking at the timeline again, seems a little suspicious that Jaxx kept leading everyone then vanished around the time chargebacks weren’t really possible. We were fed lies and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile he’s laughing to the bank. Situations like these make me hope karma is a thing.
Indeed. Karma or league action.
It's disgusting to think about how much money he stole form a large group of people who had nothing but trust in him.

There must be several people in the GB that know him and live in the area? But I presume he refunded them early on to avoid any "real" situations..

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1022 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 13:40:29 »
Update?

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1023 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 15:10:05 »
Insert joke here. Bad one.
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1024 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 18:18:26 »
Insert joke here. Bad one.

Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1025 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 21:52:39 »
You can't believe?  kek

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1026 on: Fri, 11 November 2022, 22:32:00 »
Insert joke here. Bad one.

Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.

Not a word really
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1027 on: Sat, 12 November 2022, 10:43:18 »
Insert joke here. Bad one.

Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.

Not a word really

really or at all? really insinuates you have heard from him. lol

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1028 on: Sat, 12 November 2022, 11:03:32 »
Insert joke here. Bad one.

Gondolindrim, can we assume you haven't heard anything from Jaxx either?
I can't believe it's been over a year without us hearing anything.

Not a word really

really or at all? really insinuates you have heard from him. lol

At all. Jaxx has dealt with me pretty much the same way as with everyone. The only time I got special treatment was when I stormed into the thread demanding he contacted me, which he did, and then vanished again. That was, what, an year ago?
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1029 on: Wed, 16 November 2022, 20:01:45 »
this gb makes me so sad.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1030 on: Thu, 17 November 2022, 10:51:40 »
Still sad about this one  :-[

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1031 on: Sat, 03 December 2022, 12:14:31 »

INT. SNAKE'S LAIR - DAY

We see a small, dark room filled with various electronic gadgets and wires. In the center of the room sits a large ice cream machine that takes up most of the space.

Suddenly, a snake with legs and arms enters the room. The snake is carrying a large keyboard, which it places on a nearby table.

SNAKE

This is the Rukia keyboard - the greatest keyboard ever created. It's a one-of-a-kind design, and I'm offering it to you at a discounted price.

We see a close-up of the Rukia keyboard, which looks like a regular keyboard with a few extra buttons and flashing lights.

SNAKE

But hurry, this offer won't last long. Once I sell out, I'm never making another one.

The snake sits down at the table and begins typing on the Rukia keyboard, showing off its features.

SNAKE

You see, the Rukia has multiple customizable backlighting options, programmable macro keys, and a sleek, ergonomic design. It's perfect for gaming, typing, and everything in between.

Suddenly, the snake's attention is drawn to the ice cream machine. It gets up and walks over to it, pressing buttons and checking the level of ice cream inside.

SNAKE

And if that wasn't enough, the Rukia comes with a complimentary ice cream machine - just like this one. Imagine all the delicious ice cream you could make with this baby.

The snake smiles wickedly, clearly enjoying the thought of scamming people out of their money.

SNAKE

So, are you ready to buy the Rukia and join the ranks of the keyboard elite? Don't miss out on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

The snake turns back to the camera, its eyes gleaming with greed.

SNAKE

Trust me, you won't regret it.

Fade to black.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1032 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 01:25:30 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

What happened with SPRiT? Should I stop buying SPRiT springs?

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1033 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 14:03:35 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

What happened with SPRiT? Should I stop buying SPRiT springs?

It's been weird, to be honest. I've bought SPRiT stuff for ages now and never had a problem to be honest. Basically he sold a lot of products and never delivered, and never gave a word about it.
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1034 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 15:11:32 »
Is this the biggest scam in keyboard history?

in terms of monetary value probably no, but in terms of sheer betrayal of trust it's definitely up there

What would be the biggest monetary one? Polartype?

Potentially sprit i think

SPRiT was a fart in a hurricane compared to this

What happened with SPRiT? Should I stop buying SPRiT springs?

It's been weird, to be honest. I've bought SPRiT stuff for ages now and never had a problem to be honest. Basically he sold a lot of products and never delivered, and never gave a word about it.

Must be Jaxx cousin. lol

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1035 on: Fri, 16 December 2022, 04:30:06 »
This is just.. sad..

The Rukia is a beautiful board, I miss it dearly.
Hi!

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1036 on: Wed, 28 December 2022, 14:52:44 »
I bought an AV3 (which is really nice) a while ago, but I'd still like to see my Rukia.
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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1037 on: Thu, 29 December 2022, 17:18:09 »
Best course of action now is to start a law suit against Jaxx and then go buy the Amano R2 that just released as in-stock

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1038 on: Tue, 03 January 2023, 05:31:46 »
happy new year to everyone except jaxx
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Offline ZyBeR

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1039 on: Tue, 03 January 2023, 05:49:42 »
Best course of action now is to start a law suit against Jaxx and then go buy the Amano R2 that just released as in-stock
Fully agree on the law suit part.

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1040 on: Sun, 08 January 2023, 08:19:43 »
By any chance, has anyone taken the Rukia plate file (if available) and revised the switch cutout fillets to be more like 0.5mm instead of 1.0mm (so that Gateron switches won't bind like they currently do in TGR Alice/clone plates)? 🙏🏿

The Amano project's R2 plate file has .5mm switch cutout corner radius and should be compatible with any case that supports TGR Alice plate, fwiw.

Offline helborne

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Re: [GB] Rukia - polycarb - round 2
« Reply #1041 on: Tue, 10 January 2023, 10:38:01 »
Has anyone ever alerted the authorities for this kind of fraud?