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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 05:24:24 »
Totally willing to try out KAM for this set.

I'll try to get samples soonô

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:16:37 »
Hey :)

Some small kits update on the first post of the thread

'Caps Lock' legend changed to 'Extend Mode' (in reference to ZX Spectrum +, thanks for the suggestion) which avoids confusion between 'caps shift' and 'caps lock'.

With some additions:
ps: spacebars are convex (in the ortho kit too)







Someone suggested me to make an alternative version of the alphas without sub legends, let me know what do you think of it:



I'm also working on ISO kits, I don't know if I wanna make a NorDeUk kit or separate kits (ISO UK, ISO INT, etc.), any thoughts?
I'm planning to work on a blank kit tooÖ

And, second question: What is your opinion about making regular modifiers for control, alt and super (or whatever you wanna name it)?



Btw, if someone has a color swatch and a ZX Spectrum, pm me please :thumb:
Thanks!
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:53:54 »
Looking good!

Do you know if 6u spacebar is offset stem or centered?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 09:04:13 »
Looking good!

Do you know if 6u spacebar is offset stem or centered?

Thanks!
I'll ask Keyreative, since I really wanna go KAM!
(so you could edit your signatureÖ ;D)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 10:22:42 »
I think the Mono option looks great, and I hope it gets offered.


I know these profiles are new, but has anyone here had any hands-on experience with KAM/KAT? What's the texture supposed to be like relative to other sets?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 10:29:54 »
I think the Mono option looks great, and I hope it gets offered.

I know these profiles are new, but has anyone here had any hands-on experience with KAM/KAT? What's the texture supposed to be like relative to other sets?

KAM is basically KAT r2.
I own a KAT set and I have to say that it's really pleasant to use. It's thick and smooth, not too tall (compared to SA)Ö

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 10:42:30 »
Looks really good. Interested.
Maybe they're waiting for gasmasks and latex to get sexy again.

The world has become a weird place.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 11:02:28 »
Looking good!

Do you know if 6u spacebar is offset stem or centered?

Thanks!
I'll ask Keyreative, since I really wanna go KAM!
(so you could edit your signatureÖ ;D)

 :)) doh...fixed!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 11:35:32 »
KAM is basically KAT r2.
That's R3 in standard row notation (top to bottom). Simply put, the home row.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 13:31:15 »
KAM is basically KAT r2.
That's R3 in standard row notation (top to bottom). Simply put, the home row.

Well according to the side view from Zfrontier website itís row 2 (row 4 for us).
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But yeah itís basically the flat keycaps from KAT set.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 14:13:05 »
Someone suggested me to make an alternative version of the alphas without sub legends, let me know what do you think of it:

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And, second question: What is your opinion about making regular modifiers for control, alt and super (or whatever you wanna name it)?
I'm really digging the mono alphas and would probably choose them over the original. I'd like to see regular modifiers would look like.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 06 September 2018, 22:32:42 »
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KAM is basically KAT r2.
I own a KAT set and I have to say that it's really pleasant to use. It's thick and smooth, not too tall (compared to SA)Ö

Ooh have KAT sets already been produced? I thought it was just the alpha set which finished the GB recently.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 01:11:51 »
Quote
KAM is basically KAT r2.
I own a KAT set and I have to say that it's really pleasant to use. It's thick and smooth, not too tall (compared to SA)Ö

Ooh have KAT sets already been produced? I thought it was just the alpha set which finished the GB recently.

Iím talking about the alpha yea :)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 11:32:29 »
Interest!  :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 01:28:13 »
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 02:46:26 »
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.

Well itís inspired by the orignal ones. Itís kinda different from the other keycaps we usually see IMO.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 03:05:17 »
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.

Well itís inspired by the orignal ones. Itís kinda different from the other keycaps we usually see IMO.
Please don't stride away from speccy. It will loose the charm and become totally uninteresting for those riding the nostalgia wave.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 04:14:07 »
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.

Well itís inspired by the orignal ones. Itís kinda different from the other keycaps we usually see IMO.

Ah you're right. I was saying that because I don't see the arrows on the OG keyboard but when I look again they're printed on the case instead on the keycaps, my bad.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 06:35:49 »
The mono alphas look a bit dull, love the look of the non mono ones though

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 08:59:21 »
Here is a try on light alphas



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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 15:33:30 »
Here is a try on light alphas

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While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 15:35:06 »
Here is a try on light alphas

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While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.


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Agreed

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #72 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 18:05:00 »
Here is a try on light alphas

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While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.


What do you mean? I basically inverted the dark blue gray with the white.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 19:17:04 »
Beautiful set! The more I look at the renders the more I like it. Not crazy about the mono alphas as I think the charm of this set lies in the legends. Undecided on the light alphas. Although they do look interesting I think there's enough going on with this set that I'd stick with dark gray alphas.

Either way hope this happens, most def in for a set.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 08 September 2018, 19:18:39 »
Here is a try on light alphas

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While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.


What do you mean? I basically inverted the dark blue gray with the white.
Which is not the original ZX Spectrum color. It looses the resemblance to Original Sinclar ZX Spectrum thus you don't need any of the Basic keywords printed on caps.
As I said, it's still quite nice design, but not Speccy anymore. I would not mix them into one. Maybe the white one without the keywords just keeping the font...


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 09 September 2018, 00:14:28 »
Loved the Alpha Mono, I would go with that.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 09 September 2018, 05:56:40 »
Here is a try on light alphas

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While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.


What do you mean? I basically inverted the dark blue gray with the white.
Which is not the original ZX Spectrum color. It looses the resemblance to Original Sinclar ZX Spectrum thus you don't need any of the Basic keywords printed on caps.
As I said, it's still quite nice design, but not Speccy anymore. I would not mix them into one. Maybe the white one without the keywords just keeping the font...


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I agree with that opinion. I mean, it doesnít look bad, but itís just too different, and not in the theme anymore.

Beautiful set! The more I look at the renders the more I like it. Not crazy about the mono alphas as I think the charm of this set lies in the legends. Undecided on the light alphas. Although they do look interesting I think there's enough going on with this set that I'd stick with dark gray alphas.

Either way hope this happens, most def in for a set.

Yeah, I shouldnít make too many sets, donít wanna lose the spirit of my original idea.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 10 September 2018, 00:31:53 »
If the sample looks anywhere near the renders, I'm in!
Also heard good things about KAT incl. tactile feel department, I've yet to try myself but have high expectations.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 10 September 2018, 03:08:13 »
If the sample looks anywhere near the renders, I'm in!
Also heard good things about KAT incl. tactile feel department, I've yet to try myself but have high expectations.

I'll try to order them asap since most of the people seem happy with the alphas and modifiers.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 10 September 2018, 07:38:10 »
2.5 u convex spacebar added.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 08:19:49 »
Poll results: 300 responses

How do you like the keyset so far?
Love it, would buy!: 245 (81,7%)
Would buy with some changes: 39 (13%)
I like it but I won't buy it: 16 (5,3%)
I don't like it: 0 (0%)

Is KAM profile ok for you?
Sure!: 255 (85%)
I'd prefer XDA: 31 (10,3%)
I'd prefer another uniform profile: 14 (4,7%)

Which kits would you buy?
Alphas: 277 (92,3 %)
Modifiers: 213 (71 %)
Specialities: 142 (47,3%)
40bit: 49 (16,3%)
Ergo: 47 (15,7%)
Addons: 113 (37,7%)
Ortho: 84 (28%)
Numpad: 66 (22%)
Colevrak: 28 (9,3%)
Arrows: 90 (30%)
NorDeUk: 28 (9,3%)
Spacebars: 70 (23,3%)
Blanks: 28 (9,3%)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 17:59:42 »
Arrows kit update

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 20:12:15 »
Well since Symbiosis drops CADR I really hope this is a success. For my sake.
Down for 2

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 05:32:14 »
ISO NorDeUk kit added, and small update on arrows kit.



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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 06:25:56 »
Loving the ISO addition. Iím 100% in


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 10:10:50 »
Looks awesome. Love that you added NORDKIT!

Joined geekhack from reddit for this keycap set and 1 custom keyboard.

Will be definitely ordering this.

Who will be the EU proxy? I might have seen candykeys posting a picture about this, but i might be wrong

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 01:47:49 »
Looks awesome. Love that you added NORDKIT!

Joined geekhack from reddit for this keycap set and 1 custom keyboard.

Will be definitely ordering this.

Who will be the EU proxy? I might have seen candykeys posting a picture about this, but i might be wrong

Hey! Glad you enjoy the project! Candykeys is definitively interested to be the EU proxy so yeah it should be it.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 02:20:11 »
@ts any indication on pricing?
interested to get this kit & may hold off getting other keycaps to save for this  :)) :eek:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 08:56:35 »
Hey! Glad you enjoy the project! Candykeys is definitively interested to be the EU proxy so yeah it should be it.

Great news !!!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 19:43:03 »
I want to one more 3u space bar

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97289.0


Lynx L50 requires two 3u space bar.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 02:13:21 »
I want to one more 3u space bar

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97289.0


Lynx L50 requires two 3u space bar.

That would depend a lot of the interest on that addition to be honest. At this moment I only had 1 suggestion (adding 3u spacebar)Ö

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 25 September 2018, 15:59:47 »
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 25 September 2018, 16:09:43 »
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.

Does this mean we can probably expect November GB start?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #93 on: Tue, 25 September 2018, 16:50:57 »
Eager to see samples. Multi-color reverse dye sub legends seem tricky, but if they're sharp, this is a really interesting idea.
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 25 September 2018, 18:10:24 »
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.

Does this mean we can probably expect November GB start?

This will depend on the quality of the samples. Legends have to be sharp, clean and centered. I donít wanna hurry and launch a GB with an unperfect product :)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 26 September 2018, 10:54:56 »
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.

Does this mean we can probably expect November GB start?

This will depend on the quality of the samples. Legends have to be sharp, clean and centered. I donít wanna hurry and launch a GB with an unperfect product :)

Agreed, definitely don't want it to be rushed! I'm just confirming that it won't happen in October, so that sounds good.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 26 September 2018, 14:20:40 »
I love the gray color  keys. How is this different than XDA?
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #97 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 01:21:18 »
I love the gray color  keys. How is this different than XDA?

It's not flat. It's basically taller and thicker DSA


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 02:05:26 »
Noice
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 28 September 2018, 07:22:49 »
I love the gray color  keys. How is this different than XDA?

It's not flat. It's basically taller and thicker DSA

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Awesome.