Clack Valuation Thread

[digi]

Compare them to ones without markings, look for consistencies, inconsistencies, pay attention to the minor details. Do all the keys feel the same way when you put them on your keyboard?? Do the topre CCs click/snap into place?? Are the colors where they're supposed to be??

Variations with the layering of candy corn and julysicles are normal. I know it's tough to have this level of scrutiny for CC, but given the price they're selling for, its important to understand what you are getting; even with major brands there are A grade products and B grade products and are usually priced accordingly, similar to F2s, they're all priced lower for more reasons than just the color.

Do you have an example to show? They look great to me. I've never heard of "A grade" or "B grade" with clacks. That's what F2's are for and they have a hole drilled through them.

[HoffmanMyster]

Compare them to ones without markings, look for consistencies, inconsistencies, pay attention to the minor details. Do all the keys feel the same way when you put them on your keyboard?? Do the topre CCs click/snap into place?? Are the colors where they're supposed to be??

Variations with the layering of candy corn and julysicles are normal. I know it's tough to have this level of scrutiny for CC, but given the price they're selling for, its important to understand what you are getting; even with major brands there are A grade products and B grade products and are usually priced accordingly, similar to F2s, they're all priced lower for more reasons than just the color.

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What sort of clacks could I expect to get in trades for these. Single colours/bis/tris/etc. They're all newer/rarely seen clacks, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

Topre candy corn skull + candy corn fn
MX ice blue translucent
MX lime green GID

Whatever you can get, not all CV keys have the same quality as the CCs without the CV markings.

Huh?

I also agree with Huh? What do you mean quality wise?

It seems like a fair number of them were test caps or caps that would have otherwise been sold as an F2.

If these are what would otherwise be F2 caps, it's unfortunate that they all cost more than usual.

I haven't really seen anything other than ekw's comment to indicate that the quality of these is sub-par though.  Until I see some evidence I will leave my pitchfork where it is.

[digi]

ekw808, did you even Clackvent bro? )

[nubbinator]

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What sort of clacks could I expect to get in trades for these. Single colours/bis/tris/etc. They're all newer/rarely seen clacks, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

Topre candy corn skull + candy corn fn
MX ice blue translucent
MX lime green GID

Whatever you can get, not all CV keys have the same quality as the CCs without the CV markings.

Huh?

I also agree with Huh? What do you mean quality wise?

It seems like a fair number of them were test caps or caps that would have otherwise been sold as an F2.

If these are what would otherwise be F2 caps, it's unfortunate that they all cost more than usual.

I haven't really seen anything other than ekw's comment to indicate that the quality of these is sub-par though.  Until I see some evidence I will leave my pitchfork where it is.

Well, it does seem like not all of them are a consistent color which, so that means either new colors, experimentations with colors, or ones held onto due to not matching the others, thus meeting F2 criteria. 

Personally, I have no problem with any of those answers.  Clack deserves to make money off his caps when people just turn around and sell them for two to ten times what they paid for them.  If that means making experiments or F2s normal cap prices, good on him for getting a part of that pie.  Do I like seeing higher prices?  Hell no, but since people have already decided that they're going to make the market what it is, I'm glad to see Clack at least getting a little bit more of that.

[Joey Quinn]

ekw808, did you even Clackvent bro? )

I for sure don't think he won 3 

#OGcrew though

[rowdy]

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What sort of clacks could I expect to get in trades for these. Single colours/bis/tris/etc. They're all newer/rarely seen clacks, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

Topre candy corn skull + candy corn fn
MX ice blue translucent
MX lime green GID

Whatever you can get, not all CV keys have the same quality as the CCs without the CV markings.

Huh?

I also agree with Huh? What do you mean quality wise?

It seems like a fair number of them were test caps or caps that would have otherwise been sold as an F2.

If these are what would otherwise be F2 caps, it's unfortunate that they all cost more than usual.

I haven't really seen anything other than ekw's comment to indicate that the quality of these is sub-par though.  Until I see some evidence I will leave my pitchfork where it is.

Well, it does seem like not all of them are a consistent color which, so that means either new colors, experimentations with colors, or ones held onto due to not matching the others, thus meeting F2 criteria. 

Personally, I have no problem with any of those answers.  Clack deserves to make money off his caps when people just turn around and sell them for two to ten times what they paid for them.  If that means making experiments or F2s normal cap prices, good on him for getting a part of that pie.  Do I like seeing higher prices?  Hell no, but since people have already decided that they're going to make the market what it is, I'm glad to see Clack at least getting a little bit more of that.

+1

F2 Clacks could be said to be unique, as each one is subtly different from the mass-produced (ha!) version that they were originally intended to be.

Same with a lot of Clackvent keycaps - similar colours to existing runs, but subtly different in some way.  And quite a few completely new ones too!

[esoomenona]

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[TastaturenAuslese]

Here's an example of an inconsistency in the Clackvent caps that ekw is mentioning. This is an original Jack. This is a CV Jack. Look at the foreheads between the two. The latter is more reminiscent of a scull. Pretty much every multishot CC skull has had a consistent amount of color as can be seen on the former image.

Well that's unfortunate. Looks like the stem on the original skull broke off. Poor guy.

[digi]

Was there a BS Jack ever before CV? I thought that was why you circumcised your Topre Jack, haha.

[esoomenona]

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[digi]

Was there a BS Jack ever before CV? I thought that was why you circumcised your Topre Jack, haha.

There wasn't. Make no mistake, I don't mean to take anything away from the cap itself. I'm upset that it now exists when I don't have any CCs. I would've loved to have owned it.

You seem to be mistaking what ekw is saying that these caps aren't great. They're still CCs, of course. But just like there are F2s which are marked a certain way, these caps are different and are marked as such.

It doesn't really matter that YOU (not you in particular, digi, but the general "you") don't feel that these differences make any difference. They DO matter to some people. If I had to choose between the Topre Jack I had and a Topre Jack that looks like that BS one, I would absolutely go for the former. The BS is special because it's the only(?) one, so it has that going for it.

This fancy perfect Clack world that some people seem to tout doesn't exist. These things are real, and they matter to some people. Not every CV clack is subject to it. And not every change will be a negative one. I can see how a CV clack may be perceived as being BETTER than a normal version. It's just the reality.

Right on, yea, I see what you mean.

[ekw808]

There wasn't. Make no mistake, I don't mean to take anything away from the cap itself. I'm upset that it now exists when I don't have any CCs. I would've loved to have owned it.

You seem to be mistaking what ekw is saying that these caps aren't great. They're still CCs, of course. But just like there are F2s which are marked a certain way, these caps are different and are marked as such.

It doesn't really matter that YOU (not you in particular, digi, but the general "you") don't feel that these differences make any difference. They DO matter to some people. If I had to choose between the Topre Jack I had and a Topre Jack that looks like that BS one, I would absolutely go for the former. The BS is special because it's the only(?) one, so it has that going for it.

This fancy perfect Clack world that some people seem to tout doesn't exist. These things are real, and they matter to some people. Not every CV clack is subject to it. And not every change will be a negative one. I can see how a CV clack may be perceived as being BETTER than a normal version. It's just the reality.

+1

Sidebar: pretty sure this is the first time I've ever agreed with moose.

[Belfong]

Another example will be the Drunken skull. I have a Topre Druken that has a faded face. It was appropriately marked as F2.



With Clackvent though, we see a lot more of these faded face Druken, usually they are $65 win and is accompanied by a Oktoberfest or a blank Oktoberfest (without the foam). Some of the skull face are so faded that you can't even see the whites of it. I'd think these are F2, but in Clackvent it wasn't marked as such.

[heedpantsnow]

Yeah, gotta back up the Nubs on this one. My Globe Blue Clackvent clack has a starry eye:


Seeing the CV caps roll in I've felt over and over like CC was clearing out his warehouse of one-offs, slightly "different" samples, and outliers. They're still Clacks but maybe don't fit it with others in their series or color way.

In a sense, it makes me sad because i fear it's a sign of just how bad CC's situation was. He probably did CV planning on making new ones, and the you-know-what hit the fan, and he had to meet the orders already promised and paid for. Poor guy.

[demik]

Was there a BS Jack ever before CV? I thought that was why you circumcised your Topre Jack, haha.

There wasn't. Make no mistake, I don't mean to take anything away from the cap itself. I'm upset that it now exists when I don't have any CCs. I would've loved to have owned it.

You seem to be mistaking what ekw is saying that these caps aren't great. They're still CCs, of course. But just like there are F2s which are marked a certain way, these caps are different and are marked as such.

It doesn't really matter that YOU (not you in particular, digi, but the general "you") don't feel that these differences make any difference. They DO matter to some people. If I had to choose between the Topre Jack I had and a Topre Jack that looks like that BS one, I would absolutely go for the former. The BS is special because it's the only(?) one, so it has that going for it.

This fancy perfect Clack world that some people seem to tout doesn't exist. These things are real, and they matter to some people. Not every CV clack is subject to it. And not every change will be a negative one. I can see how a CV clack may be perceived as being BETTER than a normal version. It's just the reality.

i noticed that BS Jack looked really bad compared to your topre jack. the color just seems so... washed. like you said, an f2 for sure.

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

[heedpantsnow]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

[Belfong]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

[64rky]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

What?  Seriously,  did he get robbed!?

I thought the clack man was just a God somewhere,  this kind of humanizes him.

[Belfong]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

What?  Seriously,  did he get robbed!?

I thought the clack man was just a God somewhere,  this kind of humanizes him.

Yeah, one of the members here (is it btctopre or Fire Brand, don't remember) file a PayPal communication during the time he was absent and CC replied that he was robbed and also have no access to his home or something. Wish my search-Fu is good. Perhaps someone can link again?

[nmur]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

What?  Seriously,  did he get robbed!?

I thought the clack man was just a God somewhere,  this kind of humanizes him.

Yeah, one of the members here (is it btctopre or Fire Brand, don't remember) file a PayPal communication during the time he was absent and CC replied that he was robbed and also have no access to his home or something. Wish my search-Fu is good. Perhaps someone can link again?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.msg1800669#msg1800669

[64rky]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

What?  Seriously,  did he get robbed!?

I thought the clack man was just a God somewhere,  this kind of humanizes him.

Yeah, one of the members here (is it btctopre or Fire Brand, don't remember) file a PayPal communication during the time he was absent and CC replied that he was robbed and also have no access to his home or something. Wish my search-Fu is good. Perhaps someone can link again?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.msg1800669#msg1800669

Damm!  I hope he's OK!

[Belfong]

Probably those stolen keys are super awesome and what we have are the leftovers.
And it's probably Gnome33 who did the illuminati markings. I guess marking is easy.

[PunksDead]

3love stole them

[nubbinator]

3love stole them

Bump

[Halverson]

3love stole them

Bump

Pmd for sex

[Fire Brand]

maybe CC outsourced his production to k3ck to shut you ****ers up?

jkjk

I know you're joking, but I do wonder if he planned on making new ones when he could but then saw the pitchforks and torches and people who weren't getting their Clacks and sold what he had in stock...

Hmm.. And don't forget a bunch of keys stolen from him as well.

What?  Seriously,  did he get robbed!?

I thought the clack man was just a God somewhere,  this kind of humanizes him.

Yeah, one of the members here (is it btctopre or Fire Brand, don't remember) file a PayPal communication during the time he was absent and CC replied that he was robbed and also have no access to his home or something. Wish my search-Fu is good. Perhaps someone can link again?

Thing is he never said anything about that to me, so I personally would take it with a grain of salt, as when I contacted him afterwards he only said they where ready and he had been unwell, nothing about keys being stolen :X

[Belfong]

Yep, Fire Brand, I mis-remembered you but it was btctopre and here is the link (thanks nmur) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.msg1800669#msg1800669

[rockhawksam]

How much for a Julysicle MX, Mochi MX, Candy Corn MX and Silver Topre Skull? Thinking of dropping out of the clack game 

[heedpantsnow]

How much for a Julysicle MX, Mochi MX, Candy Corn MX and Silver Topre Skull? Thinking of dropping out of the clack game 

RIP inbox

[btctopre]

How much for a Julysicle MX, Mochi MX, Candy Corn MX and Silver Topre Skull? Thinking of dropping out of the clack game 

Prob like $135, $85, $165, $115, with net $50-75 more each if sold through eBay.

Can also abuse the addicts and prop prices up excessively high (3x above), one of them will buckle eventually.

[rockhawksam]

How much for a Julysicle MX, Mochi MX, Candy Corn MX and Silver Topre Skull? Thinking of dropping out of the clack game 

Prob like $135, $85, $165, $115, with net $50-75 more each if sold through eBay.

Can also abuse the addicts and prop prices up excessively high (3x above), one of them will buckle eventually.

Thanks for the info!

[Belfong]

I just sold a key set. Have $100 in PP, will you sell the Mochi to me, Mr Rock?

[Photekq]

No sob story zone, but I've discovered that I need money for university equipment quite badly, otherwise I'd probably hold onto these for a while..

What are realistic values for the following?

Bright green GID MX
Ice blue trans MX
Candy corn skull + fn set topre

http://imgur.com/JTtJnUz,OLG7jrf,rYpEQHS

I'm not expecting ridiculous ebay prices, but I'm not expecting $65 each either (I'm an *******, I know..)

[Sifo]

then I'll give u hunned bux for ice blue hue

good luck tho everyone flips their clacks in the end, don't feel bad

[beehatch]

then I'll give u hunned bux for ice blue hue

good luck tho everyone flips their clacks in the end, don't feel bad

i offur wun hunn5 bux for ice blu

[Halverson]

No sob story zone, but I've discovered that I need money for university equipment quite badly, otherwise I'd probably hold onto these for a while..

What are realistic values for the following?

Bright green GID MX
Ice blue trans MX
Candy corn skull + fn set topre

http://imgur.com/JTtJnUz,OLG7jrf,rYpEQHS

I'm not expecting ridiculous ebay prices, but I'm not expecting $65 each either (I'm an *******, I know..)

Many moneys. Just ask a high price and see if anyone bites! I'm sure you've gotten a plethora of PMs by now though. I'll give you a hundred for the corns, it's almost Halloween and I have a sweettooth!

[sth]

then I'll give u hunned bux for ice blue hue

good luck tho everyone flips their clacks in the end

no they dont.

don't feel bad

yes feel bad.

[Joey Quinn]

Topre Trophy Silver?

[beehatch]

20 dolla

[nubbinator]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I'll take it to go with my other. Fitty dolla or in addition to summer Santa chain.

[Joey Quinn]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I'll take it to go with my other. Fitty dolla or in addition to summer Santa chain.

Not sure if I'm selling it, but I do need to make you that chain.

[nubbinator]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I'll take it to go with my other. Fitty dolla or in addition to summer Santa chain.

Not sure if I'm selling it, but I do need to make you that chain.

I have no real use for chain. 

[Joey Quinn]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I'll take it to go with my other. Fitty dolla or in addition to summer Santa chain.

Not sure if I'm selling it, but I do need to make you that chain.

I have no real use for chain.

You mean you don't use the first one every day!

[Belfong]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I trade you my Bro set

[Joey Quinn]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I trade you my Bro set

I traded mine for a V2 and some nubbs last year. )

[nubbinator]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I'll take it to go with my other. Fitty dolla or in addition to summer Santa chain.

Not sure if I'm selling it, but I do need to make you that chain.

I have no real use for chain.

You mean you don't use the first one every day!

I live in Orange County.  I don't want to get shot by racist cops.

[Belfong]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I trade you my Bro set

I traded mine for a V2 and some nubbs last year. )

and you probably regretted that decision and so my offer is now extremely attractive to you!

you want it!

i know!

[Signature]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I guess between 150-175 (sorry nubs)

[trees]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I guess between 150-175 (sorry nubs)

With the stupid prices Bros have been selling on mechmarket recently, you could post a CC for 300 over there and have someone buy instantly.

[Signature]

Topre Trophy Silver?

I guess between 150-175 (sorry nubs)

With the stupid prices Bros have been selling on mechmarket recently, you could post a CC for 300 over there and have someone buy instantly.

Just because people are retarded, doesn't mean you'll get max profit everytime. I told a fair price, which I stand by.  If we keep your logic, then I can sell my red alert keyset for 800$ cause hoffman sold a keyset for 1k. Some people don't see this hoppy as maximizing profit.