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Offline monksoffunk

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[IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 02:51:02 »
MDA FUTURE SUZURI

Welcome to the Interest Check of MDA Future Suzuri

Calligraphy, which was brought to Japan from China along with Kanji characters, is not only a method of recording and weaving eternal history and literary works, but also an art form in itself and an embodiment of Zen. The world painted with a pitch-black SUZURI inkstone and ink is a minimalistic yet meaningful representation of the spirit of Zen.

With deep black keycaps and jet black mono legends, MDA Future Suzuri is sure to become the inkstone of our time, and of the future, by bringing meaningful ideas into this world with one keypress at a time.

Get MDA Future Suzuri to type the future.




Kit
 
- 191 keys, including Japanese calligraphy vaporwave novelties. [Update Oct17 2021]
- The all-in-one kit is compatible with 40%, 60%, 65%, TKL, Ortholinear and most of split layouts like Corne. [Update Oct17 2021]
- 1u, 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, 2.25u, 2.75u and 3u convex keys available for split spacebar layouts. [Update Oct17 2021]
- 'F' and 'J' keys with scoops and bars [Update Sep11 2021]

Profile
MDA profile

Material
PBT plastic and dye-sublimated legends

Manufacturer
MelGeek

GB Date
Oct 2021

Estimate Manufacturing Time
About 6 months

Lead Vendor
Yushakobo (JP)

International Vendors
TBA

Icon Designer
draonekj

Designer
monksoffunk




Note:
Rendering is not based on official modeling data. Actual product may vary.


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« Last Edit: Sun, 17 October 2021, 08:17:51 by monksoffunk »

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 02:52:29 »
reserved

Offline matthewdias

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:03:56 »
super excited for this, we dont get enough MDA sets. is there any chance we could get some r4 1.5us for 40s and tsangan 60s?

Offline Boy_314

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:14:10 »
any particular reason for dropping support for boards larger than 60%?

Offline hsgwchan

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:43:27 »
 :cool:

Offline VellFlamm

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:46:38 »
minivan support would be greatly appreciated.

Offline ad4m

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:47:16 »
me likey. but why only extended 60% support?  :eek:

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 04:03:25 »
because the MOQ is extremely high, we need to make it all-in-one kit at an affordable price.

Offline Poesjuh

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[IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 04:15:12 »
If moq is high you should focus on a larger potential consumer base instead of limiting it to 60% and smaller. Your argument makes no sense and you’re contradicting yourself.

Heck, even 60% support is mediocre since there’s no support for 7u spacebar, no split right shift, no 1.5u bottom row, no split backspace. So really your consumer base is 60% users with a standard poker layout, or 40% stuff etc.
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 August 2021, 04:17:54 by Poesjuh »

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 05:17:11 »
Thanks for your feedback!

>no split right shift, no split backspace
we have R4 1.75u SHIFT + R4 1u FN and R1 1u BS + R1 1u Novelty

This keyset was initially developed for ortholinear keyboards such as Planck and Preonic, or splits such as Corne and lily58, and later for 60% layout. I myself am a designer of 40% split called Zinc and also 40% Aleth42. So, first and foremost, it has to be 40% compatible.

Offline bassmaniax

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 05:42:20 »
It's easy to complain, but I feel that the layouts that can be covered by this all-in-one kit are quite well thought out.
I guess something has to be left out about the R4 1.5U and V4N layout to achieve the cost and MOQ.
All that aside, these reverse die sub PBT MDA keycaps are pretty cool!
I'll In.

Offline Darth_munkee

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 05:46:58 »
Looks great, I'm in for a set.

Offline doggo1dance

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 06:30:53 »
the set looks interesting but the kit is absolutely horrendous

Offline Poesjuh

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 07:24:44 »
Thanks for your feedback!

>no split right shift, no split backspace
we have R4 1.75u SHIFT + R4 1u FN and R1 1u BS + R1 1u Novelty

This keyset was initially developed for ortholinear keyboards such as Planck and Preonic, or splits such as Corne and lily58, and later for 60% layout. I myself am a designer of 40% split called Zinc and also 40% Aleth42. So, first and foremost, it has to be 40% compatible.
I think that for those keyboards, the kit is good and offers a lot (although it’s not my area of expertise). Looked over the 1.75u shift support.

R1 1U is not split backspace support, you’ll need R2 1.5u backspace for that. But without proper tsangan bottom row support including split backspace is a bit far fetched anyway. Imo it’s fine to focus on the sub60 users, although reaching moq with just that might be a challenge.

Offline Darth_munkee

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 07:37:19 »
the set looks interesting but the kit is absolutely horrendous

This is what 40s users say when they see a set where we'd have to buy a giant base kit and a separate 40s kit to make it work.

Offline opsecpanda

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 08:45:03 »
I like this set a lot. Looking forward to seeing pricing though. Have you considered advertising this in the 40s discord too? You'll need to make sure you have minivan support and whatnot

Offline _rubik

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:03:47 »
Love the set, and I'm interested to see protos!

I have to jump on that kitting train though... yikes.
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Offline fuyuenoki

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:14:52 »
very cool! Can I get 1.25u convex-keys (,for my claw44) ?

Offline psxndc

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[IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:38:15 »
the set looks interesting but the kit is absolutely horrendous

This is what 40s users say when they see a set where we'd have to buy a giant base kit and a separate 40s kit to make it work.
QF-effing-T. Amen!

I’ll say the design is interesting, but I don’t get how the mods and theme work together. Because it’s “future” suzuri,  the “valid”, “turn”, and “boost” make the traditional inkstone “futurish”?

The set looks visually interesting (and love the sub-60 kitting #Sorrynotsorry), I’m just struggling with the grokking the realization of the inspiration.

Offline grezeh

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:41:32 »
 :-\ Hey, some homerow 1.5u novelty/something would be nice for broader 40s support.

Offline CookieFlow

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 10:03:25 »
This looks very interesting.

But I really think the minimum you should support is 65%, split BS and 7u Spacebar.
Also more 1.5u novelties and enter novelty.
       

Offline patcoll

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 11:23:32 »
Yeah I'd be in for this

Offline hzsh

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 11:37:24 »
Accent colors look nais, good to see more of a largely unused profile. More board renders would be good to see. GLWIC :thumb:

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 21 August 2021, 11:50:26 »
Still haven't tried MDA, but this is a nice look.  Especially love the accent colors and legends.

Offline digital_nothing

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 22 August 2021, 04:38:58 »
Colors look great, but I hate the kit. No 1.5 backspace or mods kills it for me.

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 22 August 2021, 11:59:12 »
Colors look great, but I hate the kit. No 1.5 backspace or mods kills it for me.

But I really think the minimum you should support is 65%, split BS and 7u Spacebar.

any particular reason for dropping support for boards larger than 60%?

If moq is high you should focus on a larger potential consumer base instead of limiting it to 60% and smaller. Your argument makes no sense and you’re contradicting yourself.

Heck, even 60% support is mediocre since there’s no support for 7u spacebar, no split right shift, no 1.5u bottom row, no split backspace. So really your consumer base is 60% users with a standard poker layout, or 40% stuff etc.

Yeah I agree. I get that supporting 40% is the main goal, but not supporting up to 65% feels like a missed opportunity...

Maybe move those "additional" keys to support up to a standard TKL (a base set) to their own kit and force non-ortho users to buy additional kits for once? I'm sure that'll meet MOQ, but no skin on the 40% base kit if it doesn't
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Offline d41

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 23 August 2021, 11:06:19 »
Looks super nice color way!!
For me, it is enough, I really like 60% or something more small one.
Good luck your work!


Offline CookieFlow

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 23 August 2021, 13:10:58 »
I think you should keep this current kit.
But add another kit made for 65% to TKL.
       

Offline drfilco

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 26 August 2021, 00:12:06 »
I've been waiting for an MDA set like this.

Offline harlekein

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 26 August 2021, 04:05:37 »
Not enough MDA. I love that profile.

So I can probably forget about it, but need to ask: Any chance of a Colevrak kit?

Offline sharpserenity

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 26 August 2021, 13:17:52 »
love this set definitely a must buy for me

Offline psxndc

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 26 August 2021, 15:13:28 »
Not enough MDA. I love that profile.

So I can probably forget about it, but need to ask: Any chance of a Colevrak kit?
Seconded. I’m on the fence about the set, but this would push me to the “buy” side of it definitely.

Offline retainerbox

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 26 August 2021, 17:30:54 »
Love it, down for 40% but I honestly think even bumping it to 65% would garner a lot more interest overall and even make me happier with it (even if it's just as an addon).
   
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Offline WillyWortel

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 27 August 2021, 17:18:24 »
Nice colorway. Make a TLK set and i'm in.

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 09:48:50 »

Offline santela

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 12 September 2021, 23:59:58 »
Why not have more coverage? You've already put in the effort to design this, might as well support more layouts.

Offline kukkurovaca

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 16:26:46 »
40%-oriented sets are very cool, but my 40% board is a Candybar, so....are there are any existing MDA sets with numpads that would look good with this?

Offline mkleehammer

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 20:15:29 »
Count me in!  At least 2 sets.

Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 14 September 2021, 04:01:34 »
for being a 40s-oriented set, this has awful 40s kitting

at minimum you should include 1.75u R2 Backspace, 1.5u R3 Enter (ideally also with an accent option), 1.25u R4 Shift, and 2x 3u bars

EDIT: however if that support were added, I would be very in for this set
« Last Edit: Tue, 14 September 2021, 16:55:00 by Zanhana »

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 14 September 2021, 12:38:45 »
interesting color scheme glwic.

Offline VellFlamm

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 14 September 2021, 21:27:33 »
for being a 40s-oriented set, this has awful 40s kitting

at minimum you should include 1.75u R2 Backspace, 1.5u R3 Enter (ideally also with an accent option), 1.25u R4 Shift, and 2x 3u bars

EDIT: however if that support were added, I would be very in for this set

I'm pretty sure MelGeek doesn't have minivan molds.
As for 1.25u Shift I don't care because I could just use the Fn key, but 3u I do agree, they should have the molds for that.

Offline SpringWind

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 16 September 2021, 07:15:52 »
I am interested in this set.
I like 60~65% keyboards, and I'm also a little interested in 40% keyboards, although I don't own any yet.

If I had to say, I would like to see additional caps like 7u space, etc. for better support in the 40~65% range, but I have no serious complaints with the current kit.

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 13:20:07 »
NE price point avail?

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 05:22:22 »

Thank you for your feedback!
Sorry for not responding to you individually.

After much discussion with the vendors, we've decided to expand the layout to TKL, with 3u spacebar, 7u also spacebar, and ISO enter.
The attached layout is the one that will be added.

Vendors and pricing will have to wait until GB.
Of course, it will be worldwide GB!

Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 10:42:03 »
Show Image

Thank you for your feedback!
Sorry for not responding to you individually.

After much discussion with the vendors, we've decided to expand the layout to TKL, with 3u spacebar, 7u also spacebar, and ISO enter.
The attached layout is the one that will be added.

Vendors and pricing will have to wait until GB.
Of course, it will be worldwide GB!

this is certainly an improvement, but the missing Minivan mods (1.75u R2 backspace and 1.5u R3 enter) means I'll be skipping this set—and I suspect this will also be true for many other 40s users. which is disappointing, to say the least, for a set that supposedly focused on 40s kitting.

Offline Darth_munkee

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 12:40:28 »
Show Image

Thank you for your feedback!
Sorry for not responding to you individually.

After much discussion with the vendors, we've decided to expand the layout to TKL, with 3u spacebar, 7u also spacebar, and ISO enter.
The attached layout is the one that will be added.

Vendors and pricing will have to wait until GB.
Of course, it will be worldwide GB!

this is certainly an improvement, but the missing Minivan mods (1.75u R2 backspace and 1.5u R3 enter) means I'll be skipping this set—and I suspect this will also be true for many other 40s users. which is disappointing, to say the least, for a set that supposedly focused on 40s kitting.

I'm genuinely curious how many 40s boards are out there thay require minivan kitting. I have like a dozen 40% boards and they're all 1u with the odd 2u or 1.25u mixed in.

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 13:43:52 »
I'm genuinely curious how many 40s boards are out there thay require minivan kitting. I have like a dozen 40% boards and they're all 1u with the odd 2u or 1.25u mixed in.

Current or upcoming boards with minivan layouts: MB44, Oceanographer, Menhir, Dango40, v3n, Coriander, P4kc3r, Field Trip, Whiskey, MFR, and probably others I can't remember off the top of my head

Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 20:52:18 »
I'm genuinely curious how many 40s boards are out there thay require minivan kitting. I have like a dozen 40% boards and they're all 1u with the odd 2u or 1.25u mixed in.

Current or upcoming boards with minivan layouts: MB44, Oceanographer, Menhir, Dango40, v3n, Coriander, P4kc3r, Field Trip, Whiskey, MFR, and probably others I can't remember off the top of my head

yep, the so-called 40s set only needs two more keys to cover the whole range of Minivan boards, seems like a no-brainer but guess not  :-X shame too as these colors are great and I'd quite like to try MDA

Offline monksoffunk

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 22:47:25 »
R2 1.75u and R3 1.5u molds for the MDA do not exist.
I checked with the manufacturer again to be sure.
Sorry about that.

Offline saltimate

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Re: [IC] MDA Future Suzuri
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 18:25:47 »
love it
is it possible to get a second 2.25u bar added? #symetricalsplitgang
the accents are super cute, wish that pink one on r1 was on another row tho :( i guess you gotta give the normies something