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[IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 12:30:40 »
Those of you who have tried to use a standard Imsto or SP keycap set to replace the OEM keycaps on a KBT/Vortex/Choco Mini keyboard know that there are some "special" keycaps that aren't in the standard set.  This leaves us with the option of mixing OEM and custom keys or worse, dropping 1x keycaps onto 1.25 or 1.5 positions.

This Interest check -- conducted with the approval of tjcaustin and the Klaxon Group Buy -- is to procure matching solid Red and solid White 1x, 1.25x and 1.5x keycaps, (plus possibly other sizes) and then ship them blank or have them laser-printed to match the various keycaps needed.  (Surprising levels of demand could enable these keys to have other, better legend imprints.)

I have requested pricing for both solid Red and solid White to match Klaxon keycaps.

I believe there are ten special key profiles needed to cover Poker, Pure, Race, Choco Mini, and a lightly modded Phantom.  Heavily modded Phantoms and GH60s may be covered as well by these sizes:

Using SP DCS Profiles and Numbering:
Row 1: 1X, 1.5X
Row 2: 1X
Row 3: 1X, 1X with dot, 2.25X
Row 4: 1X, 1.25X, 1.5X, 1.75X


Here is a mock-up of a Race with Klaxon and some specials installed:
10772-0
Race 75% with Klaxon RoW base, WoR mods, and Red Klaxon Specials.

Here are the Klaxon Specials I believe are needed by keyboard:

Poker 60%:

 1.25X Row 4 Qty 4

Pure 60%:

Row 4: 1X Qty 1, 1.75X Qty 1

Race 75%:
Row 1: 1X Qty 1, 1.5X Qty 2
Row 2: 1X Qty 1
Row 3: 1X Qty 1
Row 4: 1X Qty 1, 1.25X Qty 6

Choco Mini:

Row 1: 1X Qty 3
Row 2: 1X Qty 1
Row 3: 1X Qty 1, 2.25X Qty 1
Row 4: 1X Qty 4, 1.5X Qty 3, 1.75X Qty 1

Phantom ANSI125 with 5 extra keys:

Row 3: 1X Qty 2, 1X with dot Qty 1
Row 4: 1X Qty 2

10774-1
My best knowledge as of 26-Dec-2012

Obviously people can make "extra-special" keyboards that will need more keycaps, but except for truly exciting GH60 and Phantom builds, I think the list of Keycaps shown above in red will cover all of the profiles needed.

My next step is to finalize the profiles needed for special keyboards.  If I have missed a keyboard, or gotten the details wrong, or if you know the special keys needed for a Pure or any other special keyboard, please reply to this thread.

Once I have the list of profiles everyone will need, I will do a Google Form to understand demand, and at the same time get pricing from SP.

Thanks very much!

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« Last Edit: Wed, 20 March 2013, 15:50:19 by samwisekoi »
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 13:10:17 »
Yes! I need this for Race. At least 2a and 3b. Plus a 1x top row Fn key.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 13:34:26 »
Yes! I need this for Race. At least 2a and 3b. Plus a 1x top row Fn key.

Ok; I thought about that key, but there are so many top row specials in all of our collections I didn't include it.  Also, I use the Fn key (mostly) for Insert, and the actual Insert key fits.

But I'll add it to the Google Form, if this gets that far.

Thanks!

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 16:23:28 »
Would definitely want 2a and 3b.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 18:56:02 »
i would be interested in poker mods, 1b. but gotta check with my keycaps first.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 19:25:25 »
Interested. 2a and 3b. Even isn't my color scheme :)

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 23 December 2012, 19:27:26 »
I have to say WoR looks good with lots of color schemes.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 02:01:55 »
definitely interested! I would love to outfit my Race, so my interested is in 2A and 3C I guess

For me, the Poker looks really clean without caps customized for its layout / Fn layers so I am less interested in that
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 03:30:59 »
Finally the Race cries for keycap sets has been heard  :eek:

I am gonna get my hands on whatever replacement sets I can find for all the odd keycaps that is so unlikely ever to be produced at all?

Going for the full set(2a+3c) because seriously is there ever gonna be another chance rare I think  :(
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 10:57:44 »
interested!!!

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 16:12:03 »
Race owners: are you interested in both Red and White keycaps?

For example Red 1.25 arrows plus White 1.25 Shift and End?

Just checking before I make the fancy form.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 19:04:20 »
Yes sam i think I would. In fact this presents an opportunity to mix and match both colours :p

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 19:23:48 »
Here are some mock-ups I made today.

10719-0
Race mock-up with Klaxon RoW base, WoR mods and all Red specials.

10721-1
Race mock-up with Klaxon RoW base and mods and both Red and White specials.

[edit] Happy Christmas: Here is a Phantom mock-up I made today:

10734-2
Phantom mock-up with Klaxon, Red & White specials plus three matching Media Keys.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race and Poker Keyboards
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 24 December 2012, 19:36:33 »
Very very nice  :))

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom?
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 02:51:58 »
So, chances of a Choc Mini set? (Since people were directed here but nothing has been mentioned of it yet ;))
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Mods for KBT Race & Poker Keyboards -- Plus Phantom?
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 10:13:40 »
So, chances of a Choc Mini set? (Since people were directed here but nothing has been mentioned of it yet ;))

Yes, but I didn't get one for Xmas so I'll have to use pics.

Stay tuned,

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 12:42:08 »
OP significantly updated and thread renamed.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 12:55:10 »
If I wanted to build a phantom and use the tsargan kit so that my right shift was shorter and add a fn key, would that be a 1x for row 2?

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:00:41 »
If I wanted to build a phantom and use the tsargan kit so that my right shift was shorter and add a fn key, would that be a 1x for row 2?

Shift keys are on row 4.  See DCS Family below and on SP's website.


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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:05:58 »
Pure is just an extra 1x "~`" key for row 4 and a 1.75x right shift also row 4. Everything else is normal.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:11:42 »
Pure is just an extra 1x "~`" key for row 4 and a 1.75x right shift also row 4. Everything else is normal.

Thanks!  OP updated.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:13:52 »
If I wanted to build a phantom and use the tsargan kit so that my right shift was shorter and add a fn key, would that be a 1x for row 2?

Shift keys are on row 4.  See DCS Family below and on SP's website.

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Thank you, guess you already have phantom for having 2 1x keys on row 4 so I'd be set.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 16:31:44 »
What 4 row 4 keys would a poker need?
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 17:32:26 »
What 4 row 4 keys would a poker need?

Fn & three arrows.  Exactly where the Poker set goes normally.

I list them because a normal set would not contain mods with those legends.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 17:37:17 »
Ill need the RShift and Tild for the Pure

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 26 December 2012, 19:01:53 »
Interested in the Phantom set
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 00:08:55 »
so we are only paying for the extra keys in the phantom sets ? Because I already signed up for the base kits and all.

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 00:15:30 »
I'm interested in getting one set for Race.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 00:42:01 »
I'm interested in a set for my upcoming phantom build.  The mock up for it looks great!
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 01:03:15 »
I would be interested in a choc mini set.

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 10:24:00 »
im interested in the race one.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 17:10:34 »
Is Klaxon synonymous with RA2? Was the different name chosen to cool people's jets about running RA again?  If they're the same red/white I'd love to load my RA2 + Klaxon Special Keycaps on my Race :)
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 27 December 2012, 18:11:45 »
Is Klaxon synonymous with RA2? Was the different name chosen to cool people's jets about running RA again?  If they're the same red/white I'd love to load my RA2 + Klaxon Special Keycaps on my Race :)

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 28 December 2012, 04:32:36 »
Hi, i'll be up for a choc mini set.

Sorry for noob question, are the choc mini rows correct? I'm new to all this. 

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 29 December 2012, 02:44:16 »
definitely in for race
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 29 December 2012, 07:02:11 »
Hi, i'll be up for a choc mini set.

Sorry for noob question, are the choc mini rows correct? I'm new to all this.
nope, its upside down. Fn and number rows are row 1. And then it goes down to shift row and spacebar row which are both row 4.
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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 29 December 2012, 07:13:38 »
Hi, i'll be up for a choc mini set.

Sorry for noob question, are the choc mini rows correct? I'm new to all this.
nope, its upside down. Fn and number rows are row 1. And then it goes down to shift row and spacebar row which are both row 4.
Depends on the company making the keys as to what row is what.
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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 29 December 2012, 10:39:03 »
Thanks guys for clearing that up. I also missed samwisekoi's diagram on page 1, appologies.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 30 December 2012, 17:04:31 »
sorry if its a nooby question...but are these  doubleshots?

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 30 December 2012, 18:17:18 »
sorry if its a nooby question...but are these  doubleshots?

No; Klaxon will be double-shots, but these are for the keys that don't have double-shot molds.  So they will be purchased blank and then laser-etched or otherwise marked by the user.  The intent here is to have color-matched keycaps, not to extend Klaxon to every possible keyboard layout.

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 30 December 2012, 18:25:41 »
cheers!  ;)

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 01 January 2013, 14:10:24 »
Information for ya, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37225.0

So the short version is:

RA 2.0 = RBV
Klaxon = RDD
Cherry Red Set = RA

My plastic chip set does not have RDD only RBV :\  I only included 'RA' because I have some keys from that color and it clashes pretty bad with RBV.  However, from the screenshot provided below RDD does look close to RBV (at least in the photo it does)

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 03 January 2013, 20:57:39 »
It would be cool if I could get just the 5 Extra Phantom keys, because I've already got a Regular Klaxon set reserved for it (with 1.50x mods, I might add), and I'm thinking that those 5 keys could be used as macros or something with no complicated or bloated software. The only thing would be to determine if It would be 5 macro-esque keys or if it would be a hybrid of the 7bit design and 1.50x ANSi (think Quickfire TK with 1.50x mods). I think the Macros would be cooler, but I'm kinda needing a numberpad, though I use the Insert/delete block a lot...something to think about.

EDIT: I've made up my mind, and it's going to be dual layer. I would also appreciate a Phantom 5 extra keys blank in White. I'm getting a red set, so the 5 extra keys will stand out! :D
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Offline Elrick

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 10 January 2013, 04:29:38 »
This Interest check -- conducted with the approval of tjcaustin and the Klaxon Group Buy -- is to procure matching solid Red and solid White 1x, 1.25x and 1.5x keycaps, (plus possibly other sizes) and then ship them blank or have them laser-printed to match the various keycaps needed.  (Surprising levels of demand could enable these keys to have other, better legend imprints.)

I believe there are ten special key profiles needed to cover Poker, Pure, Race, Choco Mini, and a lightly modded Phantom.  Heavily modded Phantoms and GH60s may be covered as well by these sizes:

Definitely put me down for 2 (TWO) keysets for Races and 2 (TWO) for Pures.  Nice to see these babies getting some attention with SP now.  Please let us know if and when they will take flight and how much to front up with.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 January 2013, 20:54:46 »
This may be a stupid question, but are these keycaps PBT? I just bought a PURE LE for the aluminum case and have been looking for a Pure PBT keycap set

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 13 January 2013, 22:08:18 »
I'm interested. I can see using the RoW set for my wife's Race S when her pink keys go south.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 16 January 2013, 09:22:15 »
possibly down for a set of race's

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 17 January 2013, 13:06:33 »
Would be pretty keen for these depending on the price.

Is it possible to have a set of blank keys? ( I hate letters :P)

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 17 January 2013, 13:26:00 »
Would be pretty keen for these depending on the price.

Is it possible to have a set of blank keys? ( I hate letters :P)

These will be purchased blank from SP.  We may also get WASD to laser-etch them, but I have not approached them about that nor done any testing on this particular red to see how that would look.

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Re: [IC] Klaxon Special Keycaps for 60%, 75% and Special Keyboards
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 18 January 2013, 06:53:18 »
Would be pretty keen for these depending on the price.

Is it possible to have a set of blank keys? ( I hate letters :P)

These will be purchased blank from SP.  We may also get WASD to laser-etch them, but I have not approached them about that nor done any testing on this particular red to see how that would look.

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