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Offline StylinGreymon

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #900 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:10:22 »
Is it perhaps too late to ask for a 1.5u Escape key?
For some reason, I thought there was one, but I was mistaken.

Doesn't have to be a radical color, or anything.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #901 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:13:09 »
Is it perhaps too late to ask for a 1.5u Escape key?
For some reason, I thought there was one, but I was mistaken.

Doesn't have to be a radical color, or anything.

it's in "ergodoxian". what's that for? Race?

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #902 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:15:11 »
I have my Poker II's caps lock mapped to escape for vim/pentadactyl/various other vim-like bindings in my window manager.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #903 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:18:20 »
I have my Poker II's caps lock mapped to escape for vim/pentadactyl/various other vim-like bindings in my window manager.

caps lock is 1.75u, we don't have 1.75u ESC. but I could add an "ANY KEY" :)

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #904 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:23:30 »
Hehe don't worry about it  :p
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #905 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 05:14:26 »
I still haven’t heard of anyone who wants a “SPACE” label on an ergodox 1x2 key. Does anyone really prefer that over a blank? I’d still suggest replacing the “SPACE” key with some other legend, and anyone who needs a spacebar can buy a half set of blank ergodox mods.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #906 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 05:19:42 »
I still haven’t heard of anyone who wants a “SPACE” label on an ergodox 1x2 key.

read closer :) I know it's a long thread, but "SPACE" has been requested quite a bit.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #907 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 06:06:23 »
Apart from the yellow/orange keys, is there really interest for any of the other keys?


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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #908 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 06:23:03 »
Apart from the yellow/orange keys, is there really interest for any of the other keys?

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i'm only interested in yellow/orange and red arrow keys.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #909 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:00:39 »
Apart from the yellow/orange keys, is there really interest for any of the other keys?

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the text esc and the f keys.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #910 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:24:49 »
Apart from the yellow/orange keys, is there really interest for any of the other keys?

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i'm only interested in yellow/orange and red arrow keys.

Same here.  I just want the yellow/orange and red arrow keys.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #911 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:18:36 »
wow, can not wait
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #912 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:06:29 »
I thought there was a red esc already included.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #913 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:27:52 »
I thought there was a red esc already included.

?! red esc is in the mods kit

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #914 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:12:10 »
Apart from the yellow/orange keys, is there really interest for any of the other keys?

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The copy/paste/undo/... keys are novel, don't think I've seen those before.  But I'm not sure I'd use them on an actual keyboard.

The red arrows are good!

Definitely yellow and orange mods :)
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #915 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:10:45 »
Hey guys I'm a real noob here.

I'm using a KBT pure (not pro) version and I'm looking for a compatible blank set while not spending as much as I can.

Which set should I go for? I know I need the 1.75x R_SHIFT but that's all. I'm wondering if the other keys should be alright, like the alt/function/ctrl etc. Also, there's the tilde key on the right of the shift so preferrably the set should have enough keys for that too without buying an extra set?

Please help!

Thanks


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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #916 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:20:37 »
KBT Pure (not pro) will need the base common set, one modifiers set either text, or icons, and a 6.25 space bar. But, the only way to get the right shift 1.75u is to get also the pro modifiers set, again in either text, or icons.


1 common set
1 modifiers set
1 pro modifiers set (To get the short right shift)
1 space bar 6.25u


I am not sure, but after a second inspection of the modifer set it appears it has a 1.75u already? or is it 1.25u?, let Matt confirm that. If that were the case you can do it with only the base, the mods and the space bar.
« Last Edit: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:33:51 by ideus »

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #917 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:35:17 »
KBT Pure (not pro) will need the base common set, one modifiers set either text, or icons, and a 6.25 space bar. But, the only way to get the right shift 1.75u is to get also the pro modifiers set, again in either text, or icons.


1 common set
1 modifiers set
1 pro modifiers set (To get the short right shift)
1 space bar 6.25u


I am not sure, but after a second inspection of the modifer set it appears it has a 1.75u already? or is it 1.25u?, let Matt confirm that. If that were the case you can do it with only the base, the mods and the space bar.

Isn't it the 1.25u left shift for ISO keyboards?

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #918 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:46:00 »
The sets are looking great Matt3o! Just to check

  • 1.5x Tab - in standard modifiers
  • 1.5x caps lock - is this in any set? it's in the pro modifiers

Right. I'm all set. It's payday on Friday. My wallet won't know what hit it!
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #919 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:54:33 »
The sets are looking great Matt3o! Just to check

  • 1.5x Tab - in standard modifiers
  • 1.5x caps lock - is this in any set? it's in the pro modifiers

Right. I'm all set. It's payday on Friday. My wallet won't know what hit it!

yeah this Friday is going to be rough. I have 4 hours of a tattooing session AND I'm gonna jump on this.

oh well. key caps > food!
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #920 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:57:52 »
oh well. key caps > food!

Key caps + rice and beans > fancy food and no key caps

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #921 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 18:22:35 »
Hey guys I'm a real noob here.

I'm using a KBT pure (not pro) version and I'm looking for a compatible blank set while not spending as much as I can.

Which set should I go for? I know I need the 1.75x R_SHIFT but that's all. I'm wondering if the other keys should be alright, like the alt/function/ctrl etc. Also, there's the tilde key on the right of the shift so preferrably the set should have enough keys for that too without buying an extra set?

Please help!

Thanks

For KBT Pure you need:

with legends: common + icon mods + icon pro
blanks: base kit + additional blank mods

The sets are looking great Matt3o! Just to check

  • 1.5x Tab - in standard modifiers
  • 1.5x caps lock - is this in any set? it's in the pro modifiers

Right. I'm all set. It's payday on Friday. My wallet won't know what hit it!

right: "icon pro modifiers kit" has the 1.5u caps lock

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #922 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 21:35:46 »
KBT Pure (not pro) will need the base common set, one modifiers set either text, or icons, and a 6.25 space bar. But, the only way to get the right shift 1.75u is to get also the pro modifiers set, again in either text, or icons.


1 common set
1 modifiers set
1 pro modifiers set (To get the short right shift)
1 space bar 6.25u


I am not sure, but after a second inspection of the modifer set it appears it has a 1.75u already? or is it 1.25u?, let Matt confirm that. If that were the case you can do it with only the base, the mods and the space bar.


Hey guys I'm a real noob here.

I'm using a KBT pure (not pro) version and I'm looking for a compatible blank set while not spending as much as I can.

Which set should I go for? I know I need the 1.75x R_SHIFT but that's all. I'm wondering if the other keys should be alright, like the alt/function/ctrl etc. Also, there's the tilde key on the right of the shift so preferrably the set should have enough keys for that too without buying an extra set?

Please help!

Thanks

For KBT Pure you need:

with legends: common + icon mods + icon pro
blanks: base kit + additional blank mods


Oh alright. I guess I'll just go for the blanks for me since it's cheaper and it's what I wanted anyway.

I'm thinking that for other group buys, I should be looking out for the Tsangan set? Is that right?

And lastly, the 6.25 spacebar, I don't think that's needed right? Cause the common kit already comes with 6.25? I think those are the only things I have to watch out for I guess, the 1.75 r_shift and 6.25 spacebar.

Thanks a lot for your help guys. I really appreciate it! :)


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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #923 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 21:37:34 »
Grumble grumble. Apparently with however they were saved by Inkscape, when opened by Illustrator these SVG files set all the text to be Arial Condensed. :(

Makes it much harder to usefully contribute. (I’m glad for free software, but I really dislike Inkscape’s user interface.)

Is there a way you can save them such that the font gets embedded? I guess distributing that version gets a bit touchy w/r/t licensing. Dunno what a good approach is.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #924 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 23:26:29 »
KBT Pure (not pro) will need the base common set, one modifiers set either text, or icons, and a 6.25 space bar. But, the only way to get the right shift 1.75u is to get also the pro modifiers set, again in either text, or icons.


1 common set
1 modifiers set
1 pro modifiers set (To get the short right shift)
1 space bar 6.25u


I am not sure, but after a second inspection of the modifer set it appears it has a 1.75u already? or is it 1.25u?, let Matt confirm that. If that were the case you can do it with only the base, the mods and the space bar.


Hey guys I'm a real noob here.

I'm using a KBT pure (not pro) version and I'm looking for a compatible blank set while not spending as much as I can.

Which set should I go for? I know I need the 1.75x R_SHIFT but that's all. I'm wondering if the other keys should be alright, like the alt/function/ctrl etc. Also, there's the tilde key on the right of the shift so preferrably the set should have enough keys for that too without buying an extra set?

Please help!

Thanks

For KBT Pure you need:

with legends: common + icon mods + icon pro
blanks: base kit + additional blank mods


Oh alright. I guess I'll just go for the blanks for me since it's cheaper and it's what I wanted anyway.

I'm thinking that for other group buys, I should be looking out for the Tsangan set? Is that right?

And lastly, the 6.25 spacebar, I don't think that's needed right? Cause the common kit already comes with 6.25? I think those are the only things I have to watch out for I guess, the 1.75 r_shift and 6.25 spacebar.

Thanks a lot for your help guys. I really appreciate it! :)

Yes the common kit (alphas) comes with a 6.25 spacebar.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #925 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 00:47:22 »
Has anyone looked at SP's GB page today?
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #926 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 00:52:59 »
what are we looking for?
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #927 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 00:55:11 »
The GB for this IC is not available yet...relax.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #928 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 01:03:32 »
The GB for this IC is not available yet...relax.

Oh, I know. 

I'm just asking if you anyone has looked at it today. If you have then you will know what I'm talking about.

Their GB page has been out of whack all day today. They must be working on it.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #929 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 01:55:28 »
they told me they are working on it. as soon as they push the updates we can start.


@jacobolus, I'll see if I can embed the font. I can also convert text to path, I have to do that anyway before sending it to SP.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #930 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:22:38 »
Does someone have close up pictures of a DSA set with an iso enter? Looks like a real nice set but I'm not sure how the enter key fits in.
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #932 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 08:59:31 »
The enter cap seems to fit the others perfectly. I will get one, just in case I get an ISO keyboard in the future.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #933 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 10:13:14 »
I'm wondering if I could get some help real quick as this is my first keycap purchase.  I have a poker two and I've used the toggles to switch the windows key to Caps lock and the Caps lock key to Fn.  I like the icons set.  What sets do I need to purchase?  I think I need the Common Kit, Icon Pro Kit, Icon Modifiers, and then WASD/Nerdom for personalizing.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #934 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 10:21:31 »
I'm wondering if I could get some help real quick as this is my first keycap purchase.  I have a poker two and I've used the toggles to switch the windows key to Caps lock and the Caps lock key to Fn.  I like the icons set.  What sets do I need to purchase?  I think I need the Common Kit, Icon Pro Kit, Icon Modifiers, and then WASD/Nerdom for personalizing.


You would do just fine with those keys. The pro kit will allow you some options for the windows key switched to the caps lock, maybe the star icon.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #935 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 10:24:36 »
If I recall correctly Poker 2 layout is very standard. You'd need just Common kit + Icon mods, BUT I highly recommend picking the Pro kit as well as it covers less common layouts.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #936 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 12:19:20 »
If I recall correctly Poker 2 layout is very standard. You'd need just Common kit + Icon mods, BUT I highly recommend picking the Pro kit as well as it covers less common layouts.


Poker 2 is standard, but Gametris will need the pro kit for customized icon for the capslock that is beign used as window key.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #937 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:09:11 »
So some observations about the ISO enter:

It looks good and fits quite well - your non-keyboard-loving friends won't even notice. Typing wise it is quite similar but not quite identical to the deep sound of the DSAs. The only real problems are a. It wobbles a bit more than the DSA as their stems are tight and B it doesn't visually line up perfectly from the front (more obviously visible from the side but you won't be in that position). Overall a worth substitute given they can't make DSA ISO enters for whatever reason.



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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #938 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:14:06 »
So some observations about the ISO enter:

It looks good and fits quite well - your non-keyboard-loving friends won't even notice. Typing wise it is quite similar but not quite identical to the deep sound of the DSAs. The only real problems are a. It wobbles a bit more than the DSA as their stems are tight and B it doesn't visually line up perfectly from the front (more obviously visible from the side but you won't be in that position). Overall a worth substitute given they can't make DSA ISO enters for whatever reason.

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How many stems does an ISO Enter key have?

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #939 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:32:43 »
play your russian chorus of choice and...



legend positioning is not final, but all characters should be there. please confirm. note that you also need the common kit!

Poker 2 is standard, but Gametris will need the pro kit for customized icon for the capslock that is beign used as window key.

Indeed!

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #940 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:45:41 »
This is tighttttt
Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #941 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 14:08:20 »
play your russian chorus of choice and...

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legend positioning is not final, but all characters should be there. please confirm. note that you also need the common kit!

Just compared it to my IMSTO set and no characters are missing.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #942 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 14:14:35 »
I may get one russian set just for the sake of how does it look.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #943 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 14:16:13 »
play your russian chorus of choice and...

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legend positioning is not final, but all characters should be there. please confirm. note that you also need the common kit!

Just compared it to my IMSTO set and no characters are missing.

thanks for checking!

is there any interest in a Japanese kit?

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #944 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 15:47:31 »
I’d guess all of these uncommon ones will have a tough time hitting MOQ.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #945 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 15:54:02 »
Japanese yes :) I really like those 2 language alphas.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #946 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 16:29:16 »
I'd get a Japanese set.
If today had been a hippo, then you'd really have to worry about tomorrow.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #947 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 17:10:03 »
I'd need help designing the japanese keyboard though.

I think the russian one can make it, maybe not the japanese, but they don't impact on other kits' sale, so I see no harm.

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #948 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 19:05:08 »
How many stems does an ISO Enter key have?

3 in a vertical configuration much like a shift or non-ISO enter (rotated 90 degrees).

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Re: [IC] full PBT (spacebar included), gray or beige set
« Reply #949 on: Tue, 25 March 2014, 20:17:13 »
japanese set?
i say yes but my wallet is giving me the stare that send chills down my spine...
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