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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 01:19:19 »
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I remember that discussion: as far as I'm concerned, the result of that was: you can't absorb enough through your fingers to make a difference.

Also, these are electroplated in another metal (silver? gold?) so you're not even touching zinc.


electroplate is generally nickel or chromium

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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 08:29:25 »
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Would it be possible to get a 39 key kit for ISO keyboards?
It should consist of
12x R2 (qwert row)
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EDIT: blank of course!

Sorry the R1, R2, and R3 keys are not individually for sale. Only R4(esc row) is available at this time.

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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 08:31:47 »
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would it be possible to get smaller sets of blank/legends keys? if so, how much per key?


Not so far, probably in the future they'll be available.

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« Reply #53 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 08:42:52 »
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will this look good with backlit keyboards? i am certain the lights won't shine through them (just hoping somewhat it would :O )

@_@ I really have no idea. It's worth to give it a shot though. I'll put some of these metal keys on my Blackwidow to see how it looks.
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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:08:00 »
Not at all if you're into guys with beards and glasses.
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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 14:04:41 »
So, about those WASD keys, can we get them as blanks too?
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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 16:10:52 »
Will there be a second run of this gb? I'm interested, but hesitant regarding how heavy they are in conjunction with browns.

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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 17:55:09 »
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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 19:31:28 »
I'm going for the gold!! Payment sent.
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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 04 January 2012, 22:18:06 »
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I'm going for the gold!! Payment sent.

I still can't decide on which colour, then I had to decide printed or not, or should I go both non-printed/printed

and now there's 1.25x modifiers i need to get too, oh man ~_~
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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 00:01:39 »
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R4's are upper last function row(from ESC to Pause), the rest(WASD cluster) has different heights.

The ~ through - (on the numpad) are all row 4 as well.

And is there anyone with a decent amount of experience with these metals? I'd like to find out how long these will last. Is there any chance that they will wear through the plating?
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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 00:20:10 »
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And is there anyone with a decent amount of experience with these metals? I'd like to find out how long these will last. Is there any chance that they will wear through the plating?

electroplating only coats maybe several hundred atoms thick (but it really depends on the process and how long the plating is). if ABS keys get shiny from the abrasion of typing, there's a really good chance it will also wear down the electroplating film. maybe OP might want to check to with the guy making it and ask him how long he plates these keys for.

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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 01:16:06 »
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I'm going for the gold!! Payment sent.


You and me both. I'm not normally a gold fan, but these look awesome. ;)
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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 08:52:15 »
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I still can't decide on which colour, then I had to decide printed or not, or should I go both non-printed/printed

and now there's 1.25x modifiers i need to get too, oh man ~_~


That was my problem too. I was going for silver but changed my mind after looking at the pics. Then I wasn't sure if I wanted printed or non-printed.

I'll put them on my new Typenow w/ MX Blue in the classifieds. I'm gonna win it for $307 : )
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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 13:07:36 »
Time to bid $308

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 13:29:17 »
Don't be greedy. You're already getting "Cream" Filco Clear and a Filco Red.
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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 14:26:22 »
OT: are type nows still being sold?
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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 15:04:35 »
Used to be on ebay. Now only @ http://iomania.co.kr/. Or get it for $309 at bongoojingie mega sale.

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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 15:27:23 »
I want a gold keyboard, and never ever talk about it, like the gold machine gun in Lord of War.
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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 17:53:52 »
Are blank WASD keys available? Seen it asked a few times :3

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 20:54:40 »
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electroplate is generally nickel or chromium

That's only true because electroplating is usually done for corrosion purposes, which nickel/chromium handle better than other metals (steel, etc.) Also, "cast iron" is really steel with a lot of carbon to make it euctectic. That's why it's brittle. It's often electroplated.

Since these are (apparantly) Zinc as a base, they can be electroplated for aesthetic purposes, and they can use many metals. For example, I have personally electroplated copper (which "might" have been from a US penny) onto Zinc (which "might" have been on a US dime). It didn't work out very well (due to the activity coefficients of the metals involved) but it did work. Also, Gold and platinum are often electroplated onto semi-metals for usage in SEM. (sputtering and/or evaporation are used for other, non conductive samples). IT could be anything, really.


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electroplating only coats maybe several hundred atoms thick (but it really depends on the process and how long the plating is). if ABS keys get shiny from the abrasion of typing, there's a really good chance it will also wear down the electroplating film. maybe OP might want to check to with the guy making it and ask him how long he plates these keys for.

You can electroplate a LOT more than 100 atoms with higher current, and more time (you're right though: it really depends on the process) and it's usually pretty this to save time and money (because it's usually done to keep the more active metal from corroding). Since this is aesthetic, it really could be anything.

That's one reason I was leery about this: I didn't want to wear through it, but depending on the composition of those outer metals, it really could be pretty resistant to finger wear.  I don't know for sure, but I'd expect it to be better than ABS. They do use metal keyboards for long-life. It'll still wear from you putting your fingers on it, but I'd expect it to be less.

At any rate, I'd not let worries of that impact my decision. Metal keycaps man!

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 22:05:31 »
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You can electroplate a LOT more than 100 atoms with higher current, and more time (you're right though: it really depends on the process) and it's usually pretty this to save time and money (because it's usually done to keep the more active metal from corroding). Since this is aesthetic, it really could be anything.

That's one reason I was leery about this: I didn't want to wear through it, but depending on the composition of those outer metals, it really could be pretty resistant to finger wear.  I don't know for sure, but I'd expect it to be better than ABS. They do use metal keyboards for long-life. It'll still wear from you putting your fingers on it, but I'd expect it to be less.

At any rate, I'd not let worries of that impact my decision. Metal keycaps man!
yes, i said electroplating was several hundred atoms thick, but there will be a lot of variance because there is no detail to the electroplating process, how long it gets electroplated for, or the material used. it could be more than a couple thousand atoms thick, or it could be less than several hundred.

anodized aluminum would be more desirable, but it will cost more. don't get me wrong, the concept of metal keycaps is pure awesome, but if the plating is thin enough, the wearing on these will look even worst than ABS wear. at least with ABS, it just gets shiny, but with electroplated coat wearing out, the keys will be a totally different color in the middle.

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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 00:09:56 »
How long do any of us really keep the same keyboards or the same keys on our keyboards anyway. By the time it wears out, it'll be time for a change of scenery anyway. :P
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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 01:07:50 »
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I remember that discussion: as far as I'm concerned, the result of that was: you can't absorb enough through your fingers to make a difference.

Also, these are electroplated in another metal (silver? gold?) so you're not even touching zinc.


Right, actually you're not directly touching zinc because of the electroplated cover.

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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 06:57:56 »
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Are the WASD cluster ones engraved, or also available in blank? Asking because the "w" on those caps seems a bit too small compared to the rest...


Yes they are engraved. Blank WASD and Arrows sets will also be available.

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 07:00:01 »
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So, that Apple is available?
Gold letters look really nice.


Apple LOGO R4 keys have been in stock.

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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 10:14:04 »
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Will there be a second run of this gb? I'm interested, but hesitant regarding how heavy they are in conjunction with browns.


Not so sure, probably. :S

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 10:25:46 »
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I still can't decide on which colour, then I had to decide printed or not, or should I go both non-printed/printed

and now there's 1.25x modifiers i need to get too, oh man ~_~


lol...  so sorry about that, I know exactly how you feel. I've been there and I hate it. Like last time I was ordering some key caps from 7bit's round 4 gp, it took me forever because he provided too many options! @_@

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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 10:32:50 »
All we need now are zinc spacebars compatible for filcos/leopolds :3

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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 07 January 2012, 02:27:49 »
Are these from MKC?

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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 08 January 2012, 22:11:44 »
I just sent payment for 37 gold ones =)
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« Reply #81 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 02:50:53 »
oh gosh, this is too sexy to pass up, lets soo how kind payday is

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« Reply #82 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 07:52:27 »
I am so getting a set of this.. or two as soon as I can make up my damn mind on what I wanna get! Not to mention afford!

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« Reply #83 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 07:57:56 »
Do you know if the keys become shiney after long term use? no pun intended.
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« Reply #84 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 11:16:34 »
I don't suppose anyone would be willing to sell the 'S' 'B' '1'  or '4' or just some blanks from those rows on their set? I suppose I could just get a WASD, but that leaves something to be desired for numbers, and the B is important, we'll see.

a good question though, I don't see any in the reference pic, do the home row keys have any bump/etc?

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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 11:37:47 »
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Who is MKC?

I thought it was an acronym for "metal keycaps"

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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 14:57:11 »
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Who is MKC?

http://mkcws.5d6d.com/
http://mkcws.taobao.com/
Looks like they're indeed by MKC-Crown.
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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 16:41:33 »
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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 17:42:18 »
so what's the benefit to the group order? are the prices reduced? it almost seems like they're more

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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 19:04:50 »
that you're not going to find them unless it's through this group buy?

unless you know something we don't.
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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 19:29:37 »
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that you're not going to find them unless it's through this group buy?

unless you know something we don't.

well they just posted the retailer is =here=, i'm not trying to be cruel, just wondering what the usual lure to group buys are, as opposed to just buying independently, I think it's a fair question. I suppose with the double-shots and whatnot the idea is that the manufacturer is willing to put in the effort because it's all one big order of similar things? in this case is the Original Poster just going to order from TaoBao? or does he have a connection with the manufacturer? As someone who's new here It just confuses me a little that these things aren't explained in posts of people setting up orders.

this is a really neat order though, and I'm having some trouble finding the zerg symbol, but we'll see, my GF wants to order some TB stuff anyways, so we might just use a service and get it ourselves. I'd be really interested if someone could explain how and why these Group Orders work! thanks dudes

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 21:13:51 »
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well they just posted the retailer is =here=, i'm not trying to be cruel, just wondering what the usual lure to group buys are, as opposed to just buying independently, I think it's a fair question. I suppose with the double-shots and whatnot the idea is that the manufacturer is willing to put in the effort because it's all one big order of similar things? in this case is the Original Poster just going to order from TaoBao? or does he have a connection with the manufacturer? As someone who's new here It just confuses me a little that these things aren't explained in posts of people setting up orders.

this is a really neat order though, and I'm having some trouble finding the zerg symbol, but we'll see, my GF wants to order some TB stuff anyways, so we might just use a service and get it ourselves. I'd be really interested if someone could explain how and why these Group Orders work! thanks dudes


Well, in short, once I receive orders from this group buy, I talk to the retailer, and he conncet with the manufactor to make those key caps that have been ordered through this group buy. Not sure if you're clear with how this group buy work. Let me know.

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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 09 January 2012, 22:58:00 »
I think he's asking why one would participate in the group buy when you could buy it from taobao for less.

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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 00:16:29 »
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I think he's asking why one would participate in the group buy when you could buy it from taobao for less.

Obviously he provides much more choice for those metal key caps in this group buy than taobao.

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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 04:18:21 »
Will the too small "w" on the 37 set be fixed?

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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 08:44:24 »
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Obviously he provides much more choice for those metal key caps in this group buy than taobao.
And you don't have to worry about dealing with Taobao, which is a major plus in itself. Some of those agent fees are piratical!

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 18:37:08 »
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Will the too small "w" on the 37 set be fixed?

I hope so. Although not a deal breaker for me, that little 'w' sucks.
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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 19:47:12 »
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a good question though, I don't see any in the reference pic, do the home row keys have any bump/etc?

Seems like they don't from what we can see in the pictures but I wouldn't mind a confirmation.
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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 20:30:06 »
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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 10 January 2012, 22:47:28 »
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