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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 13:54:12 »
Yah I'm down for whatever. Just figured I'd offer to help but I'm out here on the west.

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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 14:12:00 »
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i'm 100% willing to help out with prototyping. i've been wanting to get something like this done anyway. i can also help out with US distribution. PM me, demik and lightsout if this sounds good to you.

ps, these are pretty reasonably concerns. we'd like to know the costs involved though so we can get things as perfect as reasonably possible before a large run is made.

pps, one reason to get this right is that it will work with a large number of keyboard designs -- the upcoming dox, the pure, and the poker; i think there will be a fair amount of demand for this (i want at least a few for one)

I sent out an email to my point of contact but he'll be out of the office until Monday of course. I asked to see if he could try to get me a ballpark figure for costs; estimates are done by another person. I'll be meeting with him again this Friday I believe.
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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 14:21:41 »
sounds good.

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« Reply #53 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 14:22:59 »
I'm interested in an aluminum Poker case.

1x aluminum
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« Reply #54 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 14:35:11 »
Interested in either material. Under 100 sounds right (for whats basically a metal rectangle) Somebody mentioned powdercoating as a possible finish. This would be amazing.

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« Reply #55 on: Sat, 03 March 2012, 15:42:18 »
I'd be very interested in an aluminium one for <$100
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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 00:13:57 »
1x aluminum
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« Reply #57 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 00:25:44 »
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Titanium Filco case.

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« Reply #58 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 02:03:16 »
1x aluminum
$75-100

got a choice in a colour? Red / Black a possibility or is it just Silver Alu
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« Reply #59 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 02:08:15 »
Just the natural color of the metal you choose. Some people have been discussing some ways of coloring it on your own though, so might be of interest to flip through the thread to see.
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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 02:11:19 »
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I'd be keen for 1 of each, not too phased on price but less than $100 would be good.  Powdercoating may be a better option than paint too for people that want to get them coloured, it's also cheap to have done.


anodizing is also very cheap.
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« Reply #61 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 02:14:23 »
In for one if either can go below $75.
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« Reply #62 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 06:32:34 »
In for either sub $100 would be nice. Prefer aluminum, but steel would be fine.

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« Reply #63 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 08:26:01 »
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In for one if either can go below $75.


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« Reply #64 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 08:32:40 »
I would love one if it's sub $70.
Preferably aluminum.

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« Reply #65 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 10:14:29 »
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anodizing is also very cheap.

But what about the plastic insert? Will it be removable?

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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 10:41:26 »
i would highly prefer anodized versions. it would be great if we could pick between 2 colors.

willing to pay $100 for the alum or $100 stainless steal
(whichever one is lower; but would prefer alum)

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« Reply #67 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 13:21:00 »
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But what about the plastic insert? Will it be removable?

I don't think it will be, but I'll let you know when I find out for sure.

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i would highly prefer anodized versions. it would be great if we could pick between 2 colors.

willing to pay $100 for the alum or $100 stainless steal
(whichever one is lower; but would prefer alum)

If you want to get it colored, you have to do it on your own somewhere afterwards as they don't have the equipment to do that. Stainless steel is a bit cheaper, but it will probably be within $5 to aluminum so I'll consider you towards that.
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« Reply #68 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 13:29:52 »
I'm in for a stainless steel one around $100.
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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 14:46:19 »
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What's up with your SP grab bag key caps? Should you even be allowed to make purchases before you have finished actually getting those keys out to the people who have requested them?
Heh, it is a forum sale after all, and I warned you it was going on the back burner. You can imagine that it takes much less effort to spend money than to make money. :-)
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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 15:00:31 »
I would be down for steel for 100.

There aren't many steel cases around (at least not yet) :dance:
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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 15:22:06 »
steel for ~100, would get an aluminium if that was the only option.  I just really want a metal box that I can put this keyboard in.  It needs weight.
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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 19:47:13 »
oneproduct: can you float the idea of a rubberized sheet of some kind? some kind of durable, multiple-layer deal maybe a bit like an ESD mat, with some ability to compress to accommodate the underside of the pcb, but not so much that the pcb can flex. thickness would be maybe 1-2mm.

also, materials-wise we want something that won't build up static charge.

removable or bonded to the metal would both be fine, as long as it was precisely cut to fit.

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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:17:52 »
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oneproduct: can you float the idea of a rubberized sheet of some kind? some kind of durable, multiple-layer deal maybe a bit like an ESD mat, with some ability to compress to accommodate the underside of the pcb, but not so much that the pcb can flex. thickness would be maybe 1-2mm.

also, materials-wise we want something that won't build up static charge.

removable or bonded to the metal would both be fine, as long as it was precisely cut to fit.

In place of the plastic or as an additional layer above it? It would have to be at least 4mm thick for the USB jack to be able to fit in a groove cut into the fabric if it were replacing the plastic. Have a link to an example of the type of material you mean?
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« Reply #74 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:24:40 »
i was thinking that this would be in place of the plastic, but given what you're saying, it could be on top too.

that is, have a 2.5mm sheet of ABS with a cutout for the usb jack and other large items on the bottom of the pcb, bond that to the metal. then, layer a softer anti-stat polymer on top of the ABS with the same cutouts for the board to actually rest on.

esd mats: https://www.google.com/search?q=esd+mat&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS473US473&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=nSNUT4HDLMGU0QHS9d3aCw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CHAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1080&bih=1835

we don't have to be particularly hardcore with this, though. a layer of rubber is basically fine. notice that imsto used what looks literally like a piece of anti-slip carpet mat cut to size with this case (although his was anodized..)

ps, presumably the guy you're going to talk to is an engineer who knows their production processes. don't forget to show this dude/tte the PCB, imsto's case, and the vortex case!
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« Reply #75 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 20:26:33 »
1x aluminum 75-100$
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« Reply #76 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:18:47 »
1x Al
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« Reply #77 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:35:52 »
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i was thinking that this would be in place of the plastic, but given what you're saying, it could be on top too.

that is, have a 2.5mm sheet of ABS with a cutout for the usb jack and other large items on the bottom of the pcb, bond that to the metal. then, layer a softer anti-stat polymer on top of the ABS with the same cutouts for the board to actually rest on.

esd mats: https://www.google.com/search?q=esd+mat&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS473US473&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=nSNUT4HDLMGU0QHS9d3aCw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CHAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1080&bih=1835

we don't have to be particularly hardcore with this, though. a layer of rubber is basically fine. notice that imsto used what looks literally like a piece of anti-slip carpet mat cut to size with this case (although his was anodized..)

ps, presumably the guy you're going to talk to is an engineer who knows their production processes. don't forget to show this dude/tte the PCB, imsto's case, and the vortex case!

Yup. I left my Poker with him and showed him a bunch of photos of imsto's case both with and without the keyboard sitting within it. I was going to do something similar with some cheap anti-slip rubber mat that I got from a type of home furniture store that I originally bought as a non-slip surface to put bars of soap on. I had a picture of it in the feedback thread and it looks pretty similar to what imsto had. In any case, this would be doable by the end-user by unscrewing the PCB from the plastic, putting in whatever you want after cutting out some holes and screwing it back together. I may end up doing it on this end though since that was originally part of my plan before the plastic was introduced.
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« Reply #78 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:43:06 »
well, i'd rather have something more polished looking than carpet mat, but let's see what he thinks.

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« Reply #79 on: Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:43:08 »
Want so much. 1x aluminum - $100 max
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« Reply #80 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 01:21:42 »
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I don't think it will be, but I'll let you know when I find out for sure.



If you want to get it colored, you have to do it on your own somewhere afterwards as they don't have the equipment to do that. Stainless steel is a bit cheaper, but it will probably be within $5 to aluminum so I'll consider you towards that.


yep. if it is just $5-10 extra then i'll take the aluminium.

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« Reply #81 on: Mon, 05 March 2012, 08:36:38 »
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well, i'd rather have something more polished looking than carpet mat, but let's see what he thinks.

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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 07:22:45 »
I'd be interested in an alu case <$100.

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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 08:05:17 »
I'd be in for a Stainless Steel case at <= $125.00.

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« Reply #84 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 08:37:52 »
I don't have a poker, but i'm in for aluminum, $125 max I guess.

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« Reply #85 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 10:39:43 »
Aluminum x 1
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« Reply #86 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 11:03:21 »
in 1 for 100$max
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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 11:04:25 »
x1 $100ish

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« Reply #88 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 12:59:09 »
Just tallied everything up and there's interest for 42 cases, which is pretty good. He said he should have something for me to look at tomorrow, so I'm going to give him a visit and take a peek.
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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 13:18:54 »
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Just tallied everything up and there's interest for 42 cases, which is pretty good. He said he should have something for me to look at tomorrow, so I'm going to give him a visit and take a peek.


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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 13:52:08 »
I'm interested in an aluminum one for around $100.

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« Reply #91 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 19:52:27 »
Yes please take some sort of pic.

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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 08 March 2012, 20:17:10 »
I only have a cell phone to take pictures with but I'll take some shots.
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« Reply #93 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 10:59:47 »
can you borrow a camera? also ask about prototyping fees etc etc etc. let's plan for a run of about 80 units?

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« Reply #94 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 12:03:39 »
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can you borrow a camera? also ask about prototyping fees etc etc etc. let's plan for a run of about 80 units?

Sounds great when your not the one paying up front.
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« Reply #95 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 12:39:45 »
i volunteered to put capital into this buy if the design and production look good.

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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 13:02:37 »
[video=youtube;CNSjdYfjhbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNSjdYfjhbk[/video]

Got a prototype made. This one is aluminum and the outside has been glass beaded (like sand blasting). I have a bunch of pictures as well but I'll post those a little later with some information about everything as I'm heading out for an hour right now.

The ugly bit near the USB jack will be nicer on the final one of course. Not pictured in this video is the insert that goes in the case, which they actually made out of metal rather than plastic. Will have pictures up shortly.
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« Reply #97 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 13:13:52 »
That looks _fantastic_ (although I do wish they could powdercoat...). I am in for this. PM me (and demik?) if you're ok with collaborating

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« Reply #98 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 13:15:01 »
Not bad. And yeah the USB hole needs to be cleaned up a bit.

How is the weight? I am definitely in for one or even two.
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« Reply #99 on: Fri, 09 March 2012, 13:16:56 »
f*ck.... now I want a Poker :-(