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Offline westfoxtrot

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[GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« on: Thu, 04 March 2021, 10:47:54 »
Update 1: 17th March - iLumKB had some issues closing out another board and had to delay opening this buy until today. All vendor pages are live and linked in the table below

Hello premium keyboard enthusiasts,


Photo credit @thinkwer

Here is the official GB thread for Angel, a pin-mount seamless 65% keyboard kit.

The IC thread is available here with more details

For more information about the mount style you can read the prophet threads available here:

Prophet IC Thread
Prophet GB Thread


The kit will be priced at $375 USD excluding sales/import tax and shipping. A kit includes: 1 x top, 1 x bottom, 1 x plate, and 1 PCB. The angle of the case is 6į. It includes a custom PCB designed by me that supports ISO/ANSI layouts and runs QMK, this will be matte black.

Options:
Top is available in WK or WKL - both have 0.5u arrow blocker
Case is available in Aluminium in 3 colours: E-Black, E-White & Anodised Silver
Plate is available in ISO/ANSI half or full layout in 2 materials: PP (Polypropylene, Black), POM (Polyoxymethylene, White). If the ISO numbers stay low we might have to restrict the material to ensure we hit a suitable price.

Here is a list of the retailers with their respective prices and regions. I will update this with links to the product page as soon as I have them.

The group buy will launch on the 8th March with all vendors except iLumKB who will launch on the 15th March. All vendors will hold open for 2 weeks minimum.

There is no region lock - please order from any vendor you like


Currently there are placeholder URLs to the store's homepages - these will be replaced with direct product links as soon as I have those

RegionRetailer & LinkRegional priceNotes
USACannonKeys$375 USDLimited to 300 units, releasing at 11AM EST on the 8th
CAApexKeyboards$485 CAD (ex. Tax) Limited to 100 units, releasing at 11AM est on the 8th
UKKeebCats£320
Europemykeyboard.eu Ä360
SEAiLumkb$539 SGD (inc GST)Live 15th March (Delayed to 17 Mar)
IDPlusKB5800000 IDRDiscord only
   

Extras pricing:
Additional PCBs: $45 USD / $57 CAD / £37 GBP / Ä49 EUR / $65 SGD / 700000 IDR
Additional Plates: $50 USD / $64 CAD / £39 GBP / Ä38 EUR / $72 SGD / 800000 IDR

The MOQ for the GB is 150 units for this pricing.

Due to the current global situation itís hard to nail down an exact timeline estimate but projections should put us 6-8 months out from the Group Buy end for shipping so in Q4 2021. This is subject to change during the GB period and any updates will be put here first

Plate files will be released as soon as the production files are confirmed.

If you have any questions or comments about the case/pcb/buy structure please ask here or by any of these contact methods:  Reddit, Geekhack, email, discord.

Here is an album of images

Thank you for your time

Max


FAQ

Won't the plate fall out?
The plate does sit loose in the assembly and if you pick it up and shake it then it will rattle but there's not enough room for it to fall off, in typing this doesn't happen.

What is pin mount? Have there been any other boards that use this mounting style?
there is no pressure from the top half of the case on the plate. There are 4 pins in the corners of the base that hold the plate in place and it rests on the lip of the base. The theory is that the lack of downward pressure allows the plate more freedom of movement towards the center whilst still retaining an even pressure around the edge of the board. Prophet was the first public buy that used it

Which plate material is the best?
Polypropylene benefits the most from this mount style

How much does the keyboard weigh?
The weight of the keyboard built is around 1.1kg (2.5lbs)

KLE?
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/aad5430a8bd01d27b29b514ae45fe16b


Edit notes:
- 05/03/21: adjusted CAD pricing
- 07/03/21: added EUR and IDR pricing
- 07/03/21: added KeebCats product link
- 08/03/21: dropped extra plate GBP price
« Last Edit: Wed, 17 March 2021, 05:38:57 by westfoxtrot »

Offline bthezebra

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 07:02:56 »
I'm going to look more into prophet impressions but I like discreet design.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:23:55 »
Definitely in for Angel. Been curious with the typing experience. Also praying for faster delivery time. Cheers!

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:29:32 »
Prophet is one of the nicest feeling keyboards Iíve ever had the pleasure to build. Extremely exciting to see pin mount brought to the 65% form factor. Iím sure anyone who enjoys typing will love Angel. Good luck with group buy!

Offline some1ab

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:39:54 »
Prophet is a such a nice keeb, for anyone that likes 65s I can highly recommend this.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:49:24 »
I absolutely adore the typing feel on my Prophet with a full PP plate. It gives my HHKBs a run for their money. I imagine the Angel to feel similarly. A relatively lightweight package that doesn't sacrifice form, function, and feel. Oh and sound and portability. It's quite the keeper.

Good luck with the buy!

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 11:34:38 »
No split backspace correct?

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 11:54:15 »
No split backspace correct?

It has split backspace support.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 12:20:33 »
No split backspace correct?

It has split backspace support.

Im blind or what? Even checked Summary, nope, still 1x7u and 1x6.25.
Need split space, its highly addictive

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 12:43:27 »
No split backspace correct?

It has split backspace support.

Im blind or what? Even checked Summary, nope, still 1x7u and 1x6.25.
Need split space, its highly addictive

No split space - they are talking about split backspace above


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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 12:52:42 »
No split backspace correct?

It has split backspace support.

Im blind or what? Even checked Summary, nope, still 1x7u and 1x6.25.
Need split space, its highly addictive

No split space - they are talking about split backspace above
oh. friday evening. missed it

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Offline bananathock

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 23:24:26 »
YAY! Let's gogogo! Looking forward to the GB!

Offline bas72

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 02:46:15 »
Beautiful keyboard: simple, elegant, functional. Curious after all the praise for the Prophet to try this one out. Will wait for EU launch to go live!

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 21:13:09 »
Annoying that the US vendor is capped to 300 and the other vendors are no cap. I really hope I can get on on this.

Offline YoungTerror

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 00:12:27 »
Annoying that the US vendor is capped to 300 and the other vendors are no cap. I really hope I can get on on this.

Yeah I was really excited for this but I will have to pass as I will be at work and it isn't unlimited. GL.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:36:40 »
If we're in the US can we order from Apex or is it region locked?

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:41:33 »
If we're in the US can we order from Apex or is it region locked?

There is no region lock - please order from any vendor you like

If the board sells out at CK then you can still order from the other vendors.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:44:39 »
Awesome thanks and my bad, just saw it in the OP

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 10:52:09 »
Annoying that the US vendor is capped to 300 and the other vendors are no cap. I really hope I can get on on this.

US Market is quite a bit larger than the others and there is no region lock so if 300 sell at CannonKeys people are free to buy elsewhere.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:34:59 »
I just listened to the prototype sound tests on youtube and I love this sound, this looks amazingly close to endgame for my preferences but I'm just getting started and I want to get some experience with building before I go all out. Best of luck to y'all

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 19:56:46 »
If we're in the US can we order from Apex or is it region locked?

Now Apex is limited to 100.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 04:51:31 »
just buy this, guys. it is a no brainer. trust me.

Offline bas72

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 08:15:34 »
My fingers are itching. When will sales start on mykeyboard.eu?

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 08:39:48 »
Edit: Apex Keyboards launching at 11am EST

My fingers are itching. When will sales start on mykeyboard.eu?


I will check with them! Should be soon

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 08:46:40 »
Edit: Apex Keyboards launching at 11am EST

My fingers are itching. When will sales start on mykeyboard.eu?


I will check with them! Should be soon

Awesome.  F5... F5... F5...  ;)

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 10:11:20 »
Anyone try half plate with the pin mount system (with the Prophet)?  Any feedback?

Offline TheMilkmen

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 10:19:48 »
Just bought in! Looking forward to this later in the year and hope that it all goes smoothly!

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 12:21:52 »
I'm in!  :cool:

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 14:15:46 »
One other thing that came to mind: does the PCB support PCB mount switches? Or only plate mount?

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 14:26:42 »
One other thing that came to mind: does the PCB support PCB mount switches? Or only plate mount?

The PCB supports PCB mounted pin switches of course.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 08 March 2021, 14:38:17 »
One other thing that came to mind: does the PCB support PCB mount switches? Or only plate mount?

The PCB supports PCB mounted pin switches of course.
Great... thanks! I was planning on using Zilents with this board.


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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 00:29:52 »
I didn't see it in the description, but what kind of plate material comes with the keyboard kit? Or you can select any of the offerings?

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 04:09:45 »
I didn't see it in the description, but what kind of plate material comes with the keyboard kit? Or you can select any of the offerings?

You can select - if your retailer doesn't have it as an option on the storefront then they will be collecting with a google form or similar.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 13:01:34 »
I didn't see it in the description, but what kind of plate material comes with the keyboard kit? Or you can select any of the offerings?

You can select - if your retailer doesn't have it as an option on the storefront then they will be collecting with a google form or similar.

Hello, thank you for getting back to me. I looked around other vendors and that was the case. There was a vendor where the details is in google form where as the other you can select/spec it out before the buy. I was confused for a moment, but thank you for taking the time to clarify. I appreciate it.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 16 March 2021, 20:25:43 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 04:36:56 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.


I don't use tactiles very often but I know that generally people like a slightly firmer plate for those which is why I included POM. It's a slightly louder sound signature compared to PP in this mount but still works nicely and doesn't bounce like a harder material would (metals/cf etc)

With regards to half and full it's a bit of a difficult one to cover if you haven't used a half plate before. Half plate on this board is a fairly different experience, the relief cuts in the PCB make it a bit more bouncy and floaty of a typing experience - it also has more variation in sound profile between alphas and mods due to the lack of the plate. My overall advice is: if you haven't tried a half plate before then in this board it's really love/hate so might be a bit of a risky move :-)

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 20:12:55 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.


I don't use tactiles very often but I know that generally people like a slightly firmer plate for those which is why I included POM. It's a slightly louder sound signature compared to PP in this mount but still works nicely and doesn't bounce like a harder material would (metals/cf etc)

With regards to half and full it's a bit of a difficult one to cover if you haven't used a half plate before. Half plate on this board is a fairly different experience, the relief cuts in the PCB make it a bit more bouncy and floaty of a typing experience - it also has more variation in sound profile between alphas and mods due to the lack of the plate. My overall advice is: if you haven't tried a half plate before then in this board it's really love/hate so might be a bit of a risky move :-)

After some thought, I am going to get a half plate in addition to the full PP. My feeling is I won't have another good opportunity to try half plate anytime soon, so may as well get a second plate if I am already in for the keyboard.

Thanks for your advice on the plate options.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 01:08:49 »
Are there any other compatible PCB that can be used on this keyboard? If so can you provide some examples? Thank you.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 20:09:58 »
Joined, can't wait to pin mount a full PP.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 22 March 2021, 04:04:19 »
Are there any other compatible PCB that can be used on this keyboard? If so can you provide some examples? Thank you.

The savage65 and instant65 by CannonKeys will fit, the kbd67 PCB should fit although there are no released step files to check.

Joined, can't wait to pin mount a full PP.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 25 March 2021, 17:10:55 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.


I don't use tactiles very often but I know that generally people like a slightly firmer plate for those which is why I included POM. It's a slightly louder sound signature compared to PP in this mount but still works nicely and doesn't bounce like a harder material would (metals/cf etc)

With regards to half and full it's a bit of a difficult one to cover if you haven't used a half plate before. Half plate on this board is a fairly different experience, the relief cuts in the PCB make it a bit more bouncy and floaty of a typing experience - it also has more variation in sound profile between alphas and mods due to the lack of the plate. My overall advice is: if you haven't tried a half plate before then in this board it's really love/hate so might be a bit of a risky move :-)

Hey again, I f'd up and missed the final day to change my order (I wanted to add a half plate POM). Any chance there will be extra plates sent to Cannonkeys when you guys are done manufacturing?
Really excited for the Angel65 !!!

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 26 March 2021, 10:19:31 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.


I don't use tactiles very often but I know that generally people like a slightly firmer plate for those which is why I included POM. It's a slightly louder sound signature compared to PP in this mount but still works nicely and doesn't bounce like a harder material would (metals/cf etc)

With regards to half and full it's a bit of a difficult one to cover if you haven't used a half plate before. Half plate on this board is a fairly different experience, the relief cuts in the PCB make it a bit more bouncy and floaty of a typing experience - it also has more variation in sound profile between alphas and mods due to the lack of the plate. My overall advice is: if you haven't tried a half plate before then in this board it's really love/hate so might be a bit of a risky move :-)

Hey again, I f'd up and missed the final day to change my order (I wanted to add a half plate POM). Any chance there will be extra plates sent to Cannonkeys when you guys are done manufacturing?
Really excited for the Angel65 !!!

Yes there will be - might be worth sending them a message and see if they can add it before we place the order with the manufacturer though.

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Re: [GB] Angel 65% Keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 26 March 2021, 14:26:40 »
Hey Westfoxtrot,

I was hoping you could tell me a bit about the POM vs PP plate options?
Going off of other peoples' sound tests on youtube, the full plate PP option sounds amazing for linear switches.
Would you feel similarly for tactile switches, or recommend a different plate option? And how would you compare the POM to the PP in half or full plate options?

I just entered the groupbuy for the Angel65, but was unsure if I should add a second plate to my order. I already locked in the full plate PP.


I don't use tactiles very often but I know that generally people like a slightly firmer plate for those which is why I included POM. It's a slightly louder sound signature compared to PP in this mount but still works nicely and doesn't bounce like a harder material would (metals/cf etc)

With regards to half and full it's a bit of a difficult one to cover if you haven't used a half plate before. Half plate on this board is a fairly different experience, the relief cuts in the PCB make it a bit more bouncy and floaty of a typing experience - it also has more variation in sound profile between alphas and mods due to the lack of the plate. My overall advice is: if you haven't tried a half plate before then in this board it's really love/hate so might be a bit of a risky move :-)

Hey again, I f'd up and missed the final day to change my order (I wanted to add a half plate POM). Any chance there will be extra plates sent to Cannonkeys when you guys are done manufacturing?
Really excited for the Angel65 !!!

Yes there will be - might be worth sending them a message and see if they can add it before we place the order with the manufacturer though.

I tried but they said they couldn't, I will keep my eyes peeled for extras later this year (please send a POM half to cannon keys :) )