Author Topic: Excelent deal on TG3 BL82 aka Deck 82 red led's (Read 21627 times)

bazemk1979 · « **on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 16:05:28 »

http://www.globaltekoutlet.com/TG3-Electronics-BL82-Series-Backlit-Keyboard-p/bl82.htm

-Black switches
-PS/2
-LED's can be powered by just plugging in to the mobo, no need for cable moding and connecting to the PSU with molex
-Price $58 included shipping ( FYI some vendors sells this puppy for $200-$250 new)

I was back and forth talking to the seller asking for the full codes from the keyboard and called TG3 to verify if this model uses 12V LED which will make you mod the cable in order to turn the led's on, but all is good this one uses 5V led's even though its a cops keyboard, the seller told me they are black switches, not the clear ones.

o2dazone · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 16:10:49 »

Nice find on a very cool backlit keyboard. It's a shame black switches are so horrible for almost everything

And I believe the TG3 BL82 is plate mounted, so it makes getting to those switches impossible

Encryptor · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 16:37:28 »

Wow! Good find. I like typing on the MX blacks. They're good for ANGRY TYPING. Maybe that's why they put them into a cop keyboard.

o2dazone · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 17:37:49 »

Quote from: Encryptor;499978

Wow! Good find. I like typing on the MX blacks. They're good for ANGRY TYPING. Maybe that's why they put them into a cop keyboard.

haha, if that were the case, the capslock would be always auto-on

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 18:06:04 »

well i ordered one for my self + some goodies from Amazon (blue cube adapter, Usb extension, and leathertte wrist rest for keyboard and one more for mice both made by 3M.

Intense · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 18:12:44 »

Got one too

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 18:35:17 »

Quote from: Intense;500066

Got one too

good move bro,especially when I searched some vendors on a price for this one brand new... almost got an hearth attack.....

ekw808 · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 19:43:40 »

in for one, nice find; this will be my LED experiment board.

DanGWanG · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 22:54:22 »

Bought one

These are pcb mounted right?

yjhuoh · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 23:32:24 »

removed

CyberDave · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 23:40:01 »

Quote from: yjhuoh;500309

i bought 3 usb ones on ebay on accident. $45 shipped if anyone is interested send PM.

PM sent (when I was about 10 seconds away from clicking "buy" on the Globaltekoutlet site)

dreamingftw · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 26 January 2012, 23:54:50 »

Thanks, just bought one.

dorkvader · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 27 January 2012, 01:44:10 »

Quote from: yjhuoh;500309

i bought 3 usb ones on ebay on accident. $45 shipped if anyone is interested send PM.

do these have a flat profile?

tsangan · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 00:32:24 »

When someone gets one please give your opinion on it please!

DanGWanG · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 01:17:06 »

Quote from: tsangan;501328

When someone gets one please give your opinion on it please!

Have you seen HalfSaints?

Larry Dallas · « **Reply #15 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 09:10:21 »

I have one of these. I don't dig black switches, but I love the double shot keycaps. This board also has a rubber splatter guard under the caps, feels a little better when that's removed.

dorkvader · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 11:46:37 »

Quote from: Larry Dallas;501463

I have one of these. I don't dig black switches, but I love the double shot keycaps. This board also has a rubber splatter guard under the caps, feels a little better when that's removed.

Are you sure these are doubleshot, friend? I thought they were coated.

BiNiaRiS · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 14:57:46 »

Quote from: dorkvader;501568

Are you sure these are doubleshot, friend? I thought they were coated.

For sure not double shots. They have to be translucent for light to show through.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 15:43:45 »

Quote from: BiNiaRiS;501723

For sure not double shots. They have to be translucent for light to show through.

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 38868[/ATTACH] Sorry bro but your wrong they are doubleshots that will never wear off same as DECK's keyboards. Only difference between this one and the Decks,this one is more heavy duty in construction due to it was made for industrial use such as cops cars, factories,hospitals,shops etc etc etc.

EDIT: BTW they are double shots PBT!!!! not the typical ABS double shots.....

dorkvader · « **Reply #19 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 16:41:58 »

Quote from: bazemk1979;501780

EDIT: BTW they are double shots PBT!!!! not the typical ABS double shots.....

I am sure that can't be right. The coefficient of shrinkage is too much, for almost any legend, the internal stresses would exceed the (low) fracture toughness and crack it long before cooling finished.

I went and looked it up: deck/TG3 uses a multi step process. I searched the wiki for "deck"
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Keys

Quote

Backlit keys on so called "Gaming Keyboards" are generally translucent plastic, then coated, and finally lasered similar to some cell phone keys. Decks use a variety of steps to build their keys. Black key with translucent glued insert with dye sublimation printing.

There's even a picture of the "insert" cut out of it
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=20154&d=1310047405

This means that it's not "doubleshot" in the traditional sense, and that you WILL wear though the legend with use.

Although it does look like the top is maybe sublimated PBT, which is nice. It'll take a good long while to wear that out.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #20 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 18:32:22 »

Quote from: dorkvader;501848

I am sure that can't be right. The coefficient of shrinkage is too much, for almost any legend, the internal stresses would exceed the (low) fracture toughness and crack it long before cooling finished.

I went and looked it up: deck/TG3 uses a multi step process. I searched the wiki for "deck"
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Keys

There's even a picture of the "insert" cut out of it
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=20154&d=1310047405

This means that it's not "doubleshot" in the traditional sense, and that you WILL wear though the legend with use.

Although it does look like the top is maybe sublimated PBT, which is nice. It'll take a good long while to wear that out.

Ok but the keycap is made out of 2 pieces isnt thats why they are called double shots, 1 piece the exterior cap and 1 piece the interior cap + the the clear inside piece is dyesublimated so that we can see the actual legend,right?

I'm no expert or whatsoever but this does look to me like dyesublimation+doubleshot+outershellkeycap PBT? I think its pure genious,just my 0.2 cents.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13276

EDIT: TG3/Deck guarantees that keycap legends will "NEVER" wear off,no matter what.

dreamingftw · « **Reply #21 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 19:44:21 »

They shipped my order out yesterday. Should be getting it by next Thursday. Excited to try mx blacks

Intense · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 20:37:41 »

They keys are a combo of double shot and dye sublimation

http://www.tg3electronics.com/products/backlit/bl82

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 20:53:55 »

Quote from: Intense;502002

They keys are a combo of double shot and dye sublimation

http://www.tg3electronics.com/products/backlit/bl82

If you ask me thats an amazing process, no ther company does this for their iluminated boards, not even 1 brand.

tsangan · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 28 January 2012, 21:32:54 »

Now just because of the keys I want to try the keyboard now

rotaryp0w3r · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 29 January 2012, 00:34:21 »

Thanks I was looking for. Ordered

REVENGE · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 29 January 2012, 03:00:33 »

Quote from: tsangan;502039

Now just because of the keys I want to try the keyboard now

You better be ready to live with flat profile keys.

dorkvader · « **Reply #27 on:** Sun, 29 January 2012, 12:21:53 »

Quote from: REVENGE;502215

You better be ready to live with flat profile keys.

It's easier to arrange to Dvorak, which is a huge bonus.

Tranquilite · « **Reply #28 on:** Sun, 29 January 2012, 14:22:40 »

Quote from: REVENGE;502215

You better be ready to live with flat profile keys.

They also have the same profile as SP function row keys, so you can replace any of the 1x keys with novelty key caps and not have odd profile differences.

slueth · « **Reply #29 on:** Sun, 29 January 2012, 23:48:02 »

Does this have nkro?

squarebox · « **Reply #30 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 00:05:31 »

I believe these are 2KRO.

slueth · « **Reply #31 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 01:15:49 »

For all USB Deck products there is a limit of 6 keys + modifier keys (shifts and alts) that can be pressed at any given time and still registered by your computer. This is limited by the USB specification. All Deck Legend PS2 products have full n-key rollover meaning you can press as many keys at the same time as you want and they should all register to your computer without "ghosting" as some call it.

Hmm deck keyboards are 6key rollover, just wonder if this was since it was made by the same parent company.

dorkvader · « **Reply #32 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 08:37:51 »

Quote from: slueth;502981

Hmm deck keyboards are 6key rollover, just wonder if this was since it was made by the same parent company.

Easiest way to tell would be to read a review (or look at pictures) and check for diodes.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 18:32:29 »

received it today, feels like a solid board and leds are pretty nice, although the rubber membrane that should play as a liquid protection spillage ask lil bit more force from the black switches and the very light tactile feel that we get from black switches is almost non existents cause of the protective guard. Offcourse its an easy fix to peeps dont like this just remove keys unscrew the screws, open the board and remove the membrane :smile:

ekw808 · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 18:42:41 »

Would it be possible to replace the LEDS with these: http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/component-leds/aqua-3mm-led-18-degree-viewing-angle-4000-mcd/308/

JimBobMorris · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 18:50:55 »

Quote from: bazemk1979;503643

received it today, feels like a solid board and leds are pretty nice, although the rubber membrane that should play as a liquid protection spillage ask lil bit more force from the black switches and the very light tactile feel that we get from black switches is almost non existents cause of the protective guard. Offcourse its an easy fix to peeps dont like this just remove keys unscrew the screws, open the board and remove the membrane :smile:

Errr black switches definately do not have a "light tactile feel"
They are the "heaviest" of the cherry switches and are linear..

Bought one of the ones yjhuoh was selling, pretty excited to receive it.

REVENGE · « **Reply #36 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 19:30:21 »

Quote from: slueth;502981

For all USB Deck products there is a limit of 6 keys + modifier keys (shifts and alts) that can be pressed at any given time and still registered by your computer. This is limited by the USB specification. All Deck Legend PS2 products have full n-key rollover meaning you can press as many keys at the same time as you want and they should all register to your computer without "ghosting" as some call it.

Hmm deck keyboards are 6key rollover, just wonder if this was since it was made by the same parent company.

They don't put diodes on their non-gaming boards.

REVENGE · « **Reply #37 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 19:30:53 »

Quote from: bazemk1979;503643

received it today, feels like a solid board and leds are pretty nice, although the rubber membrane that should play as a liquid protection spillage ask lil bit more force from the black switches and the very light tactile feel that we get from black switches is almost non existents cause of the protective guard. Offcourse its an easy fix to peeps dont like this just remove keys unscrew the screws, open the board and remove the membrane :smile:

FYI, that guard nearly doubles the activation force.

dorkvader · « **Reply #38 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 20:43:30 »

Quote from: ekw808;503652

Would it be possible to replace the LEDS with these: http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/component-leds/aqua-3mm-led-18-degree-viewing-angle-4000-mcd/308/

Not if you want to run them all at their max-rated 100mW. With proper resistors, you should be able to do it a bit dimmer, though.

See, if the board "had" red LED's on it, and you put in those aqua ones, the forward voltage drop is very different, so you may have to adjust the resistance of the current limiting resistors, and also keep it low power enough so that your USB or PS2 port can power it. Those aqua ones are 3.6V!

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #39 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 21:37:57 »

Quote from: ekw808;503652

Would it be possible to replace the LEDS with these: http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/component-leds/aqua-3mm-led-18-degree-viewing-angle-4000-mcd/308/

The stock Led's are rated at 5V and the ones you have in the link require less Volts, so I guess it shouldnt be a problem. Although best would be to call up TG3 and give them all the specs from the Led's and they will tell you for sure if its ok.

BTW why would you go with different LED's? the TG3 leds are superb in brightness and they have plenty of levels of brightness,the highest level of brightness is really bright, and the one thing TG3 LED's have that money cant beat is that they are rated for 20 YEARS !!!! of constant use!!!! if color is not what you want I'm sure Tg3 sells leds in different colors rated same as the red ones or they can tell you where you can buy them elsewhere if you dont want to go trought them.

ekw808 · « **Reply #40 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 21:49:07 »

I dont like red, and this is my experiment board since its the cheapest backlit mechanical keyboard that can be bought also most LEDs have a shelf life that long.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #41 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 21:51:58 »

Quote from: ekw808;503846

I dont like red, and this is my experiment board since its the cheapest backlit mechanical keyboard that can be bought also most LEDs have a shelf life that long.

cheapest brand new from this seller only.... look it up around and you will see that they sell this board for 200-250.... good for you you grabbed one.

ekw808 · « **Reply #42 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 22:39:15 »

That is the retail price, but Ive seen that board sell many times for <100, I missed my chances to snag one from other members when they sold theirs for 30-40.

Encryptor · « **Reply #43 on:** Mon, 30 January 2012, 23:15:59 »

I want to put slow changing RGB LEDs in one of these. :roll: I think these clear cases would fit it, too.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 31 January 2012, 08:00:58 »

Quote from: Encryptor;503927

I want to put slow changing RGB LEDs in one of these. :roll: I think these clear cases would fit it, too.

yes it would fit, guy moded the tg3 bl82 with clear case.

dorkvader · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 31 January 2012, 08:56:46 »

Quote from: bazemk1979;504112

yes it would fit, guy moded the tg3 bl82 with clear case.

half-saint did.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:14034

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 31 January 2012, 14:54:11 »

I think I will order my self clear case since there is no transfluecent red case available at Deck online store.... Also will remove the rubber gurad so that black switches will feel more natural.

dreamingftw · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 31 January 2012, 18:22:54 »

Quote from: bazemk1979;504548

I think I will order my self clear case since there is no transfluecent red case available at Deck online store.... Also will remove the rubber gurad so that black switches will feel more natural.

I would get one too but shipping costs as much as the case itself. Too expensive...

ekw808 · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 31 January 2012, 18:27:38 »

Shipping is 13.....should make a groupbuy for that..

DanGWanG · « **Reply #49 on:** Wed, 01 February 2012, 00:20:01 »

Just bought the clear case, sigh $13 shipping...

TG3 gets in tomorrow, case comes in before Friday. Anticipating a good week.

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