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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 30 August 2011, 18:58:34 »
"Ping" ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in "Ping"?!
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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 00:41:09 »
Ok, took some pics in a couple different groups because most of the first set sucked so bad they're unusable.

In the box with my own "Anti-Ghost key" installed:


USB jack, just above numpad:


USB cable close-ups:



Gen 2 Label:


Feet are sans-condom:


Key caps have VERY thick legends, supposedly they're not decals, but they're the thickest legends I've ever come across:


I tried a closeup on the Esc, but my camera and lighting in my home are fail for such details:


Overhead on my work bench:


All pictures taken with a Canon P&S, poor lighting, and my shaky hands.
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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 00:48:59 »
Pics that didn't turn out include pics with a key cap removed, logo/LED closeups, and some others I can't remember.
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« Reply #53 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 02:45:00 »
I'll check and report back.
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« Reply #54 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 06:48:38 »
IS the first row (escape and function keys) supposed to be that tall?

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/seqingzi/13.jpg
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« Reply #55 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 09:38:46 »
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All pictures taken with a Canon P&S, poor lighting, and my shaky hands.

Wow, these are top-notch photos!!! You really prove Ken Rockwell right, in the right hands a simple cheap camera can take outstanding pictures.
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« Reply #56 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 09:55:42 »
Umm, wow.  Thanks Ripster and Sordna.  My eyes have been fail for the last couple of years, and I've had 4 eye surgeries this summer, with 2 more looming sometime soon.  I suppose these pics may be better than I realized, but through my eyes they look like awful cell phone pics.
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« Reply #57 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 10:04:02 »
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Nice Pics!

Nice high contrast on those keys, especially for lasereds.

Are the keys the same as Filcos when you turn them upside down?
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Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, they do.

Identical "wavy" texture on the flat surface, same vertical cross-supports, same cylindrical vertical supports in the corners.  I'd guess these caps started out identical to the Filco caps, and legends were added later to Rosewill/Newegg specs.  Or maybe this is what Filco caps will look like in the near future.  It's kind of sad when the Newegg house-brand keyboard has identical caps to the de facto "elite" cherry mx board for cheaper, and with better legends (I still don't like the way they FEEL, but I'll live with it until I can get my hands on something custom that suits me better)
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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 12:10:31 »
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I also look not so hot but feel great.

Ask my wife.

Turning off the lights helps.

 
I'd tickle your brown switch even with lights on. Ping!
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« Reply #59 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 12:16:56 »
post I was responding to here must have been deleted :D
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« Reply #60 on: Sat, 03 September 2011, 13:12:57 »
Well, OK, here's the thread that I should have searched for.  Nothing to see here.

Anybody get a Leopold 500R to compare keycaps against?

Ping.
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« Reply #61 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:32:12 »
Ok, my camera is not available at the moment, but I did disassemble the board today, and it appears the controller HAS changed since the first edition.  "Filco" appears nowhere on the current controller.  The PCB is pretty cool, it has labels for every key on the back next to the solder points of each switch.  That might come in handy for anyone needing to replace a single switch, as well as making the matrix even easier to eyeball.  

In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.  Now I have to decide what to do in that location, because that big blank space looks a bit odd.
Hmmm, I wonder if I can get my hands on some very small car badge letters in a decent typeface :D

Edit: Maybe something like this. :P
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« Reply #62 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:53:51 »
@Oqsy - would love to see pics with the logo removed. Also I assume the metal backplate is still red?
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« Reply #63 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:58:40 »
yes, see pics on previous page.
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« Reply #64 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:04:04 »
Took some quick iphone pics.

Nasty, but they illustrate what I wanted to share.

Eeww tapatalk murdered the already bad pics. Will fix tomorrow
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« Reply #65 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:17:07 »
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yes, see pics on previous page.

Sorry missed that.. thanks
 
Quote from: Oqsy;410350
Took some quick iphone pics.

Nasty, but they illustrate what I wanted to share.

Eeww tapatalk murdered the already bad pics. Will fix tomorrow

Wow looks so much better, sorry if I missed it but what did you use to remove the logo.
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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:39:08 »
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In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.  Now I have to decide what to do in that location, because that big blank space looks a bit odd.


What did you use to remove the Rosewill logo?  Paint thinner?  Is there any damage to the plastic from the solvent?
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« Reply #67 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 16:51:26 »
I wonder if these boards will be $100 as well. I kinda wanna try reds and browns, as I've realized that I really don't feel tactility in my keyboards.
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« Reply #68 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 20:16:15 »
IIRC, Rosewill red switch RK-9000RE is ~ 130$
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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 20:50:31 »
That'll hardly be competitive in October, considering the PLU boards that I can get for ~$100. And even less so if WASD has reds by then.
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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:06:41 »
Where did that price come from?  I don't think prices or model numbers have been announced for any Rosewills(mech) besides the currently shipping Rev2 with blues.
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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:43:46 »
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Where did that price come from?  I don't think prices or model numbers have been announced for any Rosewills(mech) besides the currently shipping Rev2 with blues.

they put them on their website, but removed later

http://www.rosewill.com/Commons/SearchResult.aspx?key=RK-9000&st=0
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 11:39:46 »
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In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.


How did you get the logo off?  I am extremely interested in doing the same.  Please don't say sand blasted.  =D
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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 11:49:56 »
I am guessing he used Dot 3 brake fluid, Gasoline, or WD-40.  Which one?  Any side effects?
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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 12:40:52 »
Will share after I take better after pics and sort out some details.
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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 12:43:43 »
WD40 is a good idea tho...  I should have tried that first.
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« Reply #76 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 17:47:02 »
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My guess is OqsyClean.

*****es love OqsyClean.

Oh, right! His screen name makes so much sense now.
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« Reply #77 on: Mon, 05 September 2011, 20:23:52 »
Keycap legends != case logos. Filco's is that squatty retrofuturist typeface applied like a car dealership badge. The Rosewill logo appears to be pad printed or a similar "painted on" method. No fancy laser infill, no decal, just a layer of white ink sitting on top of the plastic.  In other words, easily dealt with.
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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:02:36 »
Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in
the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across. [ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 26024[/ATTACH] [ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 26025[/ATTACH]

Edit: uploaded better quality pics from home computer... tapatalk is doing weird stuff to my pics lately.
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:04:17 »
Tapatalk photo attachments keep sucking. Grr.
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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:34:00 »
Do the Rosewills use costar or cherry style stabilizers?

I'd rather have a leo since it would come with blank keycaps to begin with and I wouldn't have to switch them out, but I'll get the rosewill if
they use the same stabilizers as filcos.
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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:49:54 »
I wonder how EK is going to get their leos to sell if the rosewills are basically the same thing, but 10 bucks cheaper and with better stabilizers. Not sure about other people, but I'm just going to wait for newegg to get in stock.
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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:53:14 »
Aesthetics play a big role.  The Rosewill is ugly, IMO, so I would buy the Leopold over the Rosewill.  While I do like the Filco-style stabilizers a little better, it's not enough for me to put a big block of ugly on my desk.

The Leopold isn't a whole lot better, so I say get a WASD instead.
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:56:42 »
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That'll hardly be competitive in October, considering the PLU boards that I can get for ~$100. And even less so if WASD has reds by then.

Rosewill build quality is better.

Anyone know if they plan to offer tenkeyless?
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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 10:24:37 »
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Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across.


You forgot the Tab, backslash, and Enter keys! You can get all these keys in white from wasdkeyboards.com at $1 each if you don't mind blanks.
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 10:41:01 »
No I didnt. They fit.  It just looks ugly with those on but not Caps or the shifts. This is much easier on the eyes, and covers all the letters and the bulk of the punctuation putting a white at |\ and/or tab would look utterly nasty, and I won't even consider enter until I can cover all 3 rows.
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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:02:22 »
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Aesthetics play a big role.  The Rosewill is ugly, IMO, so I would buy the Leopold over the Rosewill.  While I do like the Filco-style stabilizers a little better, it's not enough for me to put a big block of ugly on my desk.

The Leopold isn't a whole lot better, so I say get a WASD instead.


I really don't find the Rosewill ugly... except for that damn logo!

Seriously, why make what is apparently a high end keyboard and slap that goofy looking logo on it?  Couldn't they just pay a graphic designer to come up with something a little more attractive?  Other than the logo, it pretty much looks like a Filco with a red plate, which isn't really a bad thing in my mind, whatever quibbles I might have about Filcos (no cable channels or detachable cable option, for one) I think it's a nice, squared away board that's kind of elegant and understated, and the logo doesn't scream "I bought my keyboard at Big Lots" like the Rosewill does.

Granted, that's a little hypocritical of me, as I was using a Cherry POS board at work for a while, but when you're paying >$100 for a keyboard, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to exhibit a little more class.

That said, has anyone figured out how to remove the logo w/o damaging the case?
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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:05:18 »
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Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in
the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across.


I like that just the way it is...  if I can ever get some white doubleshots I was thinking of doing that to my Filco, but with a white space bar, alternating white/black F-keys, and white numbers on the numpad (e.g. classic white/grey layout except with black instead of grey.)

OR maybe do the opposite and use grey with black.

Or do I need to buy another keyboard so that I could take two sets of keys and do both?

But anyway, don't keep us hanging, how did you get the logo off?
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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:31:50 »
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I really don't find the Rosewill ugly... except for that damn logo!

Seriously, why make what is apparently a high end keyboard and slap that goofy looking logo on it?  Couldn't they just pay a graphic designer to come up with something a little more attractive?  Other than the logo, it pretty much looks like a Filco with a red plate, which isn't really a bad thing in my mind, whatever quibbles I might have about Filcos (no cable channels or detachable cable option, for one) I think it's a nice, squared away board that's kind of elegant and understated, and the logo doesn't scream "I bought my keyboard at Big Lots" like the Rosewill does.

Granted, that's a little hypocritical of me, as I was using a Cherry POS board at work for a while, but when you're paying >$100 for a keyboard, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to exhibit a little more class.

That said, has anyone figured out how to remove the logo w/o damaging the case?


Well everyone has been over this already in this thread, but I really like the logo, and the red PCB.

The new Rosewills do have a detachable cable, but still no channels AFAIK.
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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:30:13 »
Updated pics from earlier today.




The controller pic has been edited to allow the text to be read more easily, it was very blown out and I was lucky to get it to this point with some photoshop gradient and levels tricks...  it doesn't appear to be the same controller as the first generation Rosewill boards, as I had suggested somewhere earlier.
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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:40:05 »
New-Fangled KeyBoard.
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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:54:49 »
Any *other* pretentious keyboards

Damn straight. $160 for a shiny spacebar, ping, and no detachable cable?  I'll pass on the pretentious keyboards in general, thx.
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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:06:20 »
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Well everyone has been over this already in this thread, but I really like the logo, and the red PCB.

The new Rosewills do have a detachable cable, but still no channels AFAIK.


I actually like the red plate, just not the logo.  I apologize to any Rosewill reps that may be reading this that may have taken my comments the same way you did, that is not what I intended :)

That said, I think it's not so much that the logo is a real deal breaker for me - if I didn't already have too many keyboards it would definitely be under consideration.  It's one of those things like finding a Porsche with an automatic transmission - it's still a great car, but with this one glaring flaw that is going to annoy you every time you get behind the wheel :)
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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:15:03 »
Amen, brother.

You're my number pun, er, one.
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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:37:53 »
The R2 logo isn't that bad.  The whole "Rosewill" logo would look better on a baseball jersey, though.

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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:40:08 »
Heh, I was just thinking it reminded me of

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:52:16 »
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If anyone from Newegg is following this thread...

You Newegg idiots.  I give your Rosewill Logo Zero Eggs.  You can do better than just pulling up an off the shelf font package.


They could have done better by pulling up an off the shelf font package.  Arial^H^H^H^H^HHelvetica would have been an improvement.

Speaking of which, I can't believe that it's taken me until just now to realize that the Filco logo is very similar to the Porsche logo font (but more rounded.)  Maybe that's why I like the Filco logo, it reminds me of products that I associate with quality and enjoyment of use...
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Filco Majestouch-2 with Cherry Corp. doubleshot keys - Leopold Tenkeyless Tactile Force with Wyse doubleshots - Silicon Graphics 9500900 - WASD V1 - IBM Model M 52G9658 - Noppoo Choc Pro with Cherry lasered PBT keycaps - Wyse 900866-01 - Cherry G80-8200LPBUS/07 - Dell AT101W - several Cherry G81s (future doubleshot donors) (order of current preference) (dang I have too many keyboards, I really only need two)

Offline RiGS

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Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 18:20:59 »
If they had a tenkeyless as well then EK would go out of business for sure.
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Offline hyperq

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Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 06 September 2011, 21:41:44 »
Quote from: ripster;411627

Filco SOUNDS like a gas station though.


I concur.
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Offline TexasFlood

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Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 00:06:40 »
I never really got the Rosewill logo hating.  Won't say I love it but more ambivelent, don't hate it.  Could it be better? Sure, lots of things could but...
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