Author Topic: KMAC 2 (Read 69965 times)

okooko · « **Reply #100 on:** Mon, 28 January 2013, 17:02:28 »

Quote from: KuhnTang on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:53:38

Quote from: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:48:20
Quote from: llovro on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:10:25
Thanks for quick response!
If I'm going to buy kmac 1.2, everyone will think I'm crazy for spending so much on a keyboard... I would be bullied so ****ing hard :S

Programmer-types who sit at a keyboard all day would shut right up once they tried it.

I don't know if I can agree with you there. There are programmers at my work that have tried my Filco, and although they like it couldn't see themselves spending that much on a keyboard. And this is for a Filco. These guys have more money than I do, so that isn't an issue. People just place value on different things.

that being said:
I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GETTING ONE, KMAC 2 TITANIUM.

I was actually hoping the LZ-GH would have been that color of grey

But you can't really expect some people who are not keen on trying new things and don't appreciate them to really justify buying a keyboard for work (and just use whats given at work).
Like my boss, he sits at his comp at work about 10hrs a day, mainly replying emails which is a fair bit of typing considering he gets about 40-50 emails a day without fail. He still types with fingers and he earns about 3 times the amount I earn. Theres no way he would get a Filco even let alone something like this.
Just coz you type lots and have the cash wont instantly mean that such demographic would buy such things.

Acetrak · « **Reply #101 on:** Mon, 28 January 2013, 17:17:31 »

Quote from: NikoGasm on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:32:55

Would the 1.2 have an option for a winkeyless case?

I don't think so. I think the layout is 84 or 86 depending on how you build it. Check out DanGWanG's pics of his KMAC 1.2 in the gallery subforum

Acetrak · « **Reply #102 on:** Mon, 28 January 2013, 17:19:29 »

Quote from: KuhnTang on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:53:38

I was actually hoping the LZ-GH would have been that color of grey

You should check out the thread again, the picture has been updated and the grey looks different

llovro · « **Reply #103 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 07:00:14 »

Quote from: metalliqaz on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:48:20

Quote from: llovro on Mon, 28 January 2013, 16:10:25
Thanks for quick response!
If I'm going to buy kmac 1.2, everyone will think I'm crazy for spending so much on a keyboard... I would be bullied so ****ing hard :S

Programmer-types who sit at a keyboard all day would shut right up once they tried it.

Maybe you're right but is it really such a big difference between filco and kmac? I know kmac has alluminium case, is fully programmable and has some lights, but is it really worth it?

metalliqaz · « **Reply #104 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 07:03:05 »

Is for me. Maybe not for you, no big deal.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #105 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 07:19:07 »

See the big thing for me for most of this is the programmability part, but thats not the case for most people.

Patchwrks · « **Reply #106 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 07:34:37 »

I'll probably pick up a winkeyless 1.2, unless this new job pays ridiculously in which i'd love a kmac 2

)

llovro · « **Reply #107 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 08:30:06 »

Oh and does kmac also include cable? I hope it does :S

TheProfosist · « **Reply #108 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 08:32:21 »

Quote from: llovro on Tue, 29 January 2013, 08:30:06

Oh and does kmac also include cable? I hope it does :S

nope

Germiphene · « **Reply #109 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 14:50:51 »

Ok, so what are the breakdown in differences between a LZ and a KMAC?

alaricljs · « **Reply #110 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 14:54:48 »

LZ is technically a brand with quite a few different models of cases. My understanding is that most of them use the A.87 PCB. Also there is the KMAC 1, 1.2, 2, Mini, and a couple others in development.

So that question is a little too wide open.

Germiphene · « **Reply #111 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:02:24 »

Yes, my apologies. For those that are on the fence about the LZ-GH or a KMAC 1.2 or 2. What are the differences between the two brands? If I understand correctly, the LZ-GH only has a few LED's, whereas the KMAC has more. Both are fully programmable? Case is obviously a little different. What are any other differences between the 2?

boost · « **Reply #112 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:33:25 »

Quote from: Germiphene on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:02:24

Yes, my apologies. For those that are on the fence about the LZ-GH or a KMAC 1.2 or 2. What are the differences between the two brands? If I understand correctly, the LZ-GH only has a few LED's, whereas the KMAC has more. Both are fully programmable? Case is obviously a little different. What are any other differences between the 2?

The real question to ask is what is the difference between the A.87 PCB and Kmac PCB as the case designs are just different in look, weight, style, ect.

Both PCB is fully programmable.
Both PCB uses Cherry PCB mount stabs
Both PCB can be had in 84key/86key/87key

A.87 has 2 types of PCB, Full LED PCB and Regular PCB.

Hopes this help.

~Boost

Dianoda · « **Reply #113 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:37:18 »

Quote from: boost on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:33:25

Quote from: Germiphene on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:02:24
Yes, my apologies. For those that are on the fence about the LZ-GH or a KMAC 1.2 or 2. What are the differences between the two brands? If I understand correctly, the LZ-GH only has a few LED's, whereas the KMAC has more. Both are fully programmable? Case is obviously a little different. What are any other differences between the 2?

The real question to ask is what is the difference between the A.87 PCB and Kmac PCB as the case designs are just different in look, weight, style, ect.

Both PCB is fully programmable.
Both PCB uses Cherry PCB mount stabs
Both PCB can be had in 84key/86key/87key

A.87 has 2 types of PCB, Full LED PCB and Regular PCB.

Hopes this help.

~Boost

So this buy will have an 87 key ANSI layout option (1.25x3/6.25/1.25x4 bottom row)? If so I am in.

boost · « **Reply #114 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:38:23 »

Quote from: Dianoda on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:37:18

Quote from: boost on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:33:25
Quote from: Germiphene on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:02:24
Yes, my apologies. For those that are on the fence about the LZ-GH or a KMAC 1.2 or 2. What are the differences between the two brands? If I understand correctly, the LZ-GH only has a few LED's, whereas the KMAC has more. Both are fully programmable? Case is obviously a little different. What are any other differences between the 2?

The real question to ask is what is the difference between the A.87 PCB and Kmac PCB as the case designs are just different in look, weight, style, ect.

Both PCB is fully programmable.
Both PCB uses Cherry PCB mount stabs
Both PCB can be had in 84key/86key/87key

A.87 has 2 types of PCB, Full LED PCB and Regular PCB.

Hopes this help.

~Boost

So this buy will have an 87 key ANSI layout option (1.25x3/6.25/1.25x4 bottom row)? If so I am in.

I'm pretty sure it will but that is a question for sherry.

Acetrak · « **Reply #115 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:39:08 »

The case differences are pretty significant and shouldn't be dismissed easily imo. This is what I know about the case differences.

LZGH is going to be part aluminum and part stainless steel, which adds on the weight to the whole keyboard. The back bar is designs to provide two options for the incline angle. There two layouts available, 84 and 86, and each one has a different top case.

KMAC 1.2 has a full aluminum case and is hard anodized (some people reported that with constant contact with the case, the color from the original KMAC and KMAC LE changes, hard anodizing prevents that). The layouts available are also 84 and 86, but there is a block you can install for the winkeys instead of integrating it into the top part of the case. The feet for the case are different and you can also adjust the incline angle.

KMAC 2 (I believe) is also full aluminum and hard anodized. Layouts are the same as 1.2. But the bottom case is different. The feet are integrated into the case and there are holes where you can install small stands to further support the plate+pcb.

alaricljs · « **Reply #116 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:46:11 »

Quote from: Acetrak on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:39:08

KMAC 2 (I believe) is also full aluminum and hard anodized. Layouts are the same as 1.2. But the bottom case is different. The feet are integrated into the case and there are holes where you can install small stands to further support the plate+pcb.

The 1.2 and 2 both have the blocks and I believe the standoffs as well. However the plate does not allow for access to screwing down the PCB to the standoffs. It is purely an option for going plate-less.

Also the 2 doesn't so much have feet built in, more along the lines of the entire bottom being wedge shaped.

Acetrak · « **Reply #117 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:52:16 »

Quote from: alaricljs on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:46:11

However the plate does not allow for access to screwing down the PCB to the standoffs. It is purely an option for going plate-less.

Ah gotcha. Is it possible to screw the PCB to the standoff AND use a plate? Dat stability

Quote from: alaricljs on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:46:11

Also the 2 doesn't so much have feet built in, more along the lines of the entire bottom being wedge shaped.

Yes, that's what I meant. You worded it a lot clearer though

Germiphene · « **Reply #118 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 16:02:41 »

Quote from: boost on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:33:25

Quote from: Germiphene on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:02:24
Yes, my apologies. For those that are on the fence about the LZ-GH or a KMAC 1.2 or 2. What are the differences between the two brands? If I understand correctly, the LZ-GH only has a few LED's, whereas the KMAC has more. Both are fully programmable? Case is obviously a little different. What are any other differences between the 2?

The real question to ask is what is the difference between the A.87 PCB and Kmac PCB as the case designs are just different in look, weight, style, ect.

Both PCB is fully programmable.
Both PCB uses Cherry PCB mount stabs
Both PCB can be had in 84key/86key/87key

A.87 has 2 types of PCB, Full LED PCB and Regular PCB.

Hopes this help.

~Boost

And the PCB for the LZ-GH is the regular, not the full LED one. Correct? The KMAC 1.2/2 are regular PCB, or Full LED PCB?

I can assume then, that the LZ keyboard will be heavier then the KMAC, due to the stainless steel in the case.

Acetrak · « **Reply #119 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 16:08:53 »

KMAC has wasd f row esc left ctrl caps and scroll lock for led

alaricljs · « **Reply #120 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 16:26:11 »

Quote from: Acetrak on Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:52:16

Ah gotcha. Is it possible to screw the PCB to the standoff AND use a plate? Dat stability

If you are willing to drill through the plate you could screw down the PCB. That also will depend on the location of the standoffs.

LZ-GH will be non-LED version and with the steel bar foot will be quite heavy.

KuhnTang · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:08:45 »

So, when will these be available to purchase?

Wildcard · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 21:30:52 »

Ohhh I can't wait

Sherry, the suspense is killing me.

dorkvader · « **Reply #123 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:59:21 »

is the KMAC 1.2 / KMAC 2 programmable without a korean forum account?

SmallFry · « **Reply #124 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:00:12 »

I do not think so, unless you found the way at which it authenticated and took it out.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #125 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:03:12 »

Was the software updated for the 1.2/2???

sherryton · « **Reply #126 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:08:32 »

Quote from: TheProfosist on Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:03:12

Was the software updated for the 1.2/2???

Yes

Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:59:21

is the KMAC 1.2 / KMAC 2 programmable without a korean forum account?

I believe Litster has a thread for that somewhere.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #127 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:11:02 »

Quote from: sherryton on Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:08:32

Quote from: TheProfosist on Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:03:12
Was the software updated for the 1.2/2???

Yes
Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:59:21
is the KMAC 1.2 / KMAC 2 programmable without a korean forum account?

I believe Litster has a thread for that somewhere.

yea i believe i have the lastes software from it which bi had to dig around to get because the link was bad but i think that spftware is from before christmas i didnt know if the updated it for the v1.2/2

dorkvader · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 13:30:10 »

Quote from: sherryton on Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:08:32

Quote from: TheProfosist on Tue, 29 January 2013, 23:03:12
Was the software updated for the 1.2/2???

Yes
Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 29 January 2013, 22:59:21
is the KMAC 1.2 / KMAC 2 programmable without a korean forum account?

I believe Litster has a thread for that somewhere.

here's the kmac diy topic:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.0

i will look at it.

YoungMichael88 · « **Reply #129 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 14:26:05 »

Oh the things I would do for a red 1.2. So needless to say I'm in for a red KMAC 1.2. Thanks for all your efforts sherry!! Hope this pans out!

Leewei · « **Reply #130 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 11:40:27 »

It's the end of the month. Any updates or news? =D

TheProfosist · « **Reply #131 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 11:48:33 »

Where my Red KMAC 1.2?

?

iArson · « **Reply #132 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 11:54:03 »

I would also like to know! Invoices going out for the GH!

sherryton · « **Reply #133 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:10:22 »

KMAC 2 will be up shortly. It was suppose to be up today, but our PayPal is being reviewed.

Leewei · « **Reply #134 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:13:45 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:10:22

KMAC 2 will be up shortly. It was suppose to be up today, but our PayPal is being reviewed.

So we just submit an order through origniativeco.com? How many of these will be up for grabs? =)

sherryton · « **Reply #135 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:18 »

Quote from: Leewei on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:13:45

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:10:22
KMAC 2 will be up shortly. It was suppose to be up today, but our PayPal is being reviewed.
So we just submit an order through origniativeco.com? How many of these will be up for grabs? =)

No, we will have to wait for everything to get resolved. I am thinking 30-40.

iArson · « **Reply #136 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:55 »

Yeah you mentioned something similar to what boost did with the GH. Is that still going to happen?

Leewei · « **Reply #137 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:17:27 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:18

Quote from: Leewei on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:13:45
Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:10:22
KMAC 2 will be up shortly. It was suppose to be up today, but our PayPal is being reviewed.
So we just submit an order through origniativeco.com? How many of these will be up for grabs? =)

No, we will have to wait for everything to get resolved. I am thinking 30-40.

Aight. Hopefully things will get resolved quickly! Good luck!

sherryton · « **Reply #138 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:18:04 »

Quote from: iArson on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:55

Yeah you mentioned something similar to what boost did with the GH. Is that still going to happen?

What do you mean?

TheProfosist · « **Reply #139 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:21:54 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:18:04

Quote from: iArson on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:55
Yeah you mentioned something similar to what boost did with the GH. Is that still going to happen?

What do you mean?

as in specify a time youll open up beforehand, where its going to be, how much its going to to cost, and how many are available.

iArson · « **Reply #140 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:25:38 »

Quote from: TheProfosist on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:21:54

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:18:04
Quote from: iArson on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:15:55
Yeah you mentioned something similar to what boost did with the GH. Is that still going to happen?

What do you mean?
as in specify a time youll open up beforehand, where its going to be, how much its going to to cost, and how many are available.

That pretty much sums it up. That and an estimated time of shipping.

sherryton · « **Reply #141 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:27:16 »

I'm only going to do around 30 for the KMAC 2. Everything will be available on my site when it is ready.

llovro · « **Reply #142 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:45:14 »

And what about kmac 1.2? How many of those are you going to have?

sherryton · « **Reply #143 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:51:41 »

It will have 5 more than the KMAC 2, but I am not sure exactly how many KMAC 2's yet.

FabsSpeed · « **Reply #144 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:56:38 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:51:41

It will have 5 more than the KMAC 2, but I am not sure exactly how many KMAC 2's yet.

So how can I place my order ? I really would like to buy two

nebo · « **Reply #145 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:58:11 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:51:41

It will have 5 more than the KMAC 2, but I am not sure exactly how many KMAC 2's yet.

So in the timespan of the phantom 2 there has been announced the LZGH and KMAC. Yay for tax returns!

Any ideas on colors you'll have? Looking to get a winkeyless 1.2 if I can.

sherryton · « **Reply #146 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:00:08 »

Quote from: FabsSpeed on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:56:38

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:51:41
It will have 5 more than the KMAC 2, but I am not sure exactly how many KMAC 2's yet.

So how can I place my order ? I really would like to buy two

At this time, 1 per person. If there is any leftovers of another type of keyboard, then you will have to wait if you wanted it. For example: You ordered a KMAC 2, but you want both KMAC 2 and 1.2. You will have to wait a week if you are highly interested in getting both. That way, everyone has a chance at a custom aluminum keyboard.

FabsSpeed · « **Reply #147 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:01:41 »

Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:00:08

Quote from: FabsSpeed on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:56:38
Quote from: sherryton on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:51:41
It will have 5 more than the KMAC 2, but I am not sure exactly how many KMAC 2's yet.

So how can I place my order ? I really would like to buy two

At this time, 1 per person. If there is any leftovers of another type of keyboard, then you will have to wait if you wanted it. For example: You ordered a KMAC 2, but you want both KMAC 2 and 1.2. You will have to wait a week if you are highly interested in getting both. That way, everyone has a chance at a custom aluminum keyboard.

okay great, and how can I make my order for the one pice and the waiting list for nr. 2 ?

Dianoda · « **Reply #148 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:02:08 »

What layouts will be available?

alaricljs · « **Reply #149 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:10:03 »

84/86 ANSI
not so sure on an 87 ANSI since it's never been mentioned.

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