Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 04 January 2017, 19:30:54
Q: Ps2avrgb PCB?
A: http://www.kbdlounge.com/2017/03/24/how-to-reprogram-ps2avrgb-boards/
Q: QMK PCB?
A: https://github.com/jetpacktuxedo/qmk_firmware/tree/m65a/keyboards/jc65
A: Link above provided by /u/jetpacktuxedo and is also merged into master - https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65
A: Builder SoonTM. SOONtm
Currently shipping. Check post 2.
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can. Please wait patiently.
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know. Here - https://eepurl.com/coAJ5r ; After R1 ships.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Q: Where are the mousepads?
A: They ship with your M65A
Q: Can I get an extra this or that with my order?
A. Wait for extras to be posted
Q: Can I get mine shipped for X meetup?
A: They're shipping and I am not prioritizing any one's for $50, $100, or $200. That's just how I roll, sorry.
Q: Can I get stabs later?
A: Unfortunately, I'll have to say no. I don't like shipping partial orders. That's a lot of upkeep for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/OPncMm3.jpg)
Black Matte w/ Maxkey SA Cyan on Dolch
(http://i.imgur.com/jtDdyQn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dTjgvY1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EmFWrEO.jpg)
Champagne with Rose Gold Alu Bottom w/ GMK Plum
(http://i.imgur.com/XO4M7sV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lZg4bIu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KW2KMzf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Gt8FC8M.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)
Rose Gold w/ SA Grand Budapest
(http://i.imgur.com/K1Iir5l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GZAleF4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NSolgtC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Wc1JCKE.jpg)
Hydro Blue w/ GMK Hydro
(http://i.imgur.com/LNnfDTn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/B7vXFZl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg3tyqs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hJGYpnF.jpg)
Space Grey w/ GMK SoWaRe
(http://i.imgur.com/AvY7K6s.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ONSNTyM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m1aP9rd.jpg)
Silver w Brass Plate (waiting for GMK Muted)
(http://i.imgur.com/18f1ARu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zODRCZY.jpg)
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Hey MK enthusiasts,
It is with great please that I am happy to announce that launch of the M65-A Group Buy Period on my Birthday - January 7th. I'm sure many of you have kept up with the IC, so here it finally is. :)
Made with RAMA from RAMA.WORKS, the M65-A is fully reprogrammable, has underglow, allows for backlit LEDs, and features an ALU6061 rigid body frame design. The keycap sets that are featured are: Hyperfuse by CtrlAlt.io + Hacked by Geeks by JDCarpe
Join Here - Everyone will get one.
http://bit.ly/M65-A (http://bit.ly/M65-A)
M65-A - Made with RAMA
Full Album - http://imgur.com/a/aXYCB
(http://i.imgur.com/nYWI0n7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nbxOxNb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FyF4Epa.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/p5c3uiZ.jpg)
Aluminum Base Example
(http://i.imgur.com/4Z0dTHe.jpg)
Custom Rubber Feet w/ 3M tape
(http://i.imgur.com/gz6y9yx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rt76oHx.jpg)
Pricing for the Case
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $210 w/ Nylon Base
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Does not support RGB underglow)
- PCB $40.00
Optional Addons / Changes
- Extra Aluminum Base $85 + shipping
- Brushed Brass Switch Plate (instead of Alu6061 Switch Plate) +$35.00 + shipping
Pricing for the Case includes
- Top Alu Case
- Nylon or Alu Base
- Brass weight with PVD Plating
- Universal Plate
- 2x Custom Molded Feet
- Screws
PCB Specs
- RGB underglow
- LED compatible
- Black w/ Gold Traces
- ps2avrgb by Winkeyless.kr
- winkeyless.kr/partner/ (http://winkeyless.kr/partner/)
Possible Layouts
(https://i.imgur.com/kqb4ySi.png)
Case/Plate Specifications
- 8 Degree tilt
- Switch Top Opening
- PCB Mount Stabs
Extra Information
- Silver Screws for Champagne, Rose Gold, and Silver
- Black Screws for Matte Jet Black, Space Grey, and Hydro Blue.
- Pantone 468C Rubber Feet for Champagne,
- Pantone 176C Rubber Feet for Rose Gold
- Pantone 2C Cool Gray Rubber Feet for Silver
- Pantone 10C Cool Gray Rubber Feet for Space Grey, Hydro Blue, and Black
Shipping calculated for 5lbs (with only base kit)
Special Note: Shipping will be charged be differently per order Internationally. ConUS is flat rate up to 10lbs. Custom Boxes are used.
- USPS ConUS (up to 10 lbs) - $25.00
- DHL Express: $95.00 - $105.00 Depending on destination
- USPS Priority International w/ $600 USD Insurance: $68.00
- USPS Priority International w/ $600 USD Insurance to Canada: $50.00
- DHL Express to Canada: $52
Timeline
Estimated Group Buy Period : Approximately 10 - 12 Weeks.
- January 7 - 11: Accept Submissions
- January 12-14: Invoicing
- January 17: Invoice Payment Due
- January 19: Submit Payment to Manufacturers
- About 50 work days later (excluding CNY 1-23 to 2-8 & Freight Time): Bulk Shipment Arrives
- About 1 Week: QC for all the parts.
- About 3 Days: Shipping
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 04 January 2017, 19:31:08
Holding a small little "contest" for a DIY guide for the M65A :)
Make a DIY guide on how to construct the M65A. It can be done in ANY format such as video, or photo imgur guide. Make sure it's accessible on the interweb - on Reddit, on geekhack, or just make the imgur link and submit (details below)
How you'll be chosen:
- The quality of the guide (photo quality does NOT count, as I'm aware that people do not have high quality cameras). Quality of the guide means, description, how in-depth you go describing the process, or tools, and parts you use.
- Personalization: How you added your own personal spice the guide. Whether that's jokes, or memes, whatever it is - Make it yours & own it :).
Reward!
- There are TWO reward options you can choose from, and there is only 1 winner :).
- Brass Plate + PCB + Additional Base (if i have that color) w/ Shipping to your location (global, open, with DHL/Fedex)
- 50% M65-A R2 Base Kit whenever that happens
Submission
- Submissions are open up to 2 weeks after I finish the last shipment.
- Please submit here - https://goo.gl/forms/XMOBUpowupgVqE8C2
Please note: Below will be M65-A invoice numbers, but will not include tracking. Tracking will be emailed to you directly to your paypal email. Please do not contact me for a tracking number so I can focus on shipping other people's M65-A out :)
Shipping Progress
Day 1
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Old stuff below
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Reserved for Progress Updates.
Jan 8 - Decision Change
Everyone will get one who fills out the form.
and here's a teaser of the brass weight :). It may change slightly. :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
January 13 - Invoicing Complete
Invoicing is now complete.
If you did not receive an invoice, that means we have an error with your email or something. Please email me -> Jchan@keyclack.com w/ your username (& association you selected) && the proper paypal address.
Thanks to those who have already paid and projected this project to where it is today. RAMA and I are so excited to get this going.
Payments are due -> January 17.
Feb 13 - Just blobbing a bunch of updates.
- Payment has been made to manufacturer
- GMK Screw in Stabs for all
- Brass Plate is now PVD coated with some real gold in it.
- Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
- Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
March 2nd - Just blobbing a bunch of updates.
- Custom boxes are in the works
- Manufacturer has told us Mid April, so we'll probably have this out by end of April, or Early May.
- QMK Invoices will be issued soon
- Those who are wondering about extras: FCFS after the GB has shipped. No raffle. Announcement will be made with time + date im PST time via email + here.
- ps2avrgb PCBs are done being made
- Sandwich 3 layer case is almost done.
- QMK pcbs are in manufacturing.
---- Update Gap, because I didn't update this post. I will update it soon ----
May 12
- Shipment from Manufacturer to Keyclack
May 18
- Images leaked of M65A
- https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2425917#msg2425917
May 22
- Asia Proxy Receives order.
May 29
- First M65-A revealed.
May 30th
- Small update with Extra units, and how they're handed.
- Link to post - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2433093#msg2433093
June 1st
- GMK Screw in stabs form released
- Link to form - https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
Jan 8 - Decision Change
Everyone will get one who fills out the form.
and here's a teaser of the brass weight :). It may change slightly. :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
January 13 - Invoicing Complete
Invoicing is now complete.
If you did not receive an invoice, that means we have an error with your email or something. Please email me -> Jchan@keyclack.com w/ your username (& association you selected) && the proper paypal address.
Thanks to those who have already paid and projected this project to where it is today. RAMA and I are so excited to get this going.
Payments are due -> January 17.
Feb 13 - Just blobbing a bunch of updates.
- Payment has been made to manufacturer
- GMK Screw in Stabs for all
- Brass Plate is now PVD coated with some real gold in it.
- Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
- Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
March 2nd - Just blobbing a bunch of updates.
- Custom boxes are in the works
- Manufacturer has told us Mid April, so we'll probably have this out by end of April, or Early May.
- QMK Invoices will be issued soon
- Those who are wondering about extras: FCFS after the GB has shipped. No raffle. Announcement will be made with time + date im PST time via email + here.
- ps2avrgb PCBs are done being made
- Sandwich 3 layer case is almost done.
- QMK pcbs are in manufacturing.
---- Update Gap, because I didn't update this post. I will update it soon ----
May 12
- Shipment from Manufacturer to Keyclack
May 18
- Images leaked of M65A
- https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2425917#msg2425917
May 22
- Asia Proxy Receives order.
May 29
- First M65-A revealed.
May 30th
- Small update with Extra units, and how they're handed.
- Link to post - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2433093#msg2433093
June 1st
- GMK Screw in stabs form released
- Link to form - https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
Post by: renzpwns on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:01:46
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:10:50
(P.S.: much hype! Also Happy Birthday, jchan94!)
Post by: Berzerker on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:14:48
Just submitted!
Post by: Arallu on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:17:52
Post by: NoahNHP on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:26:50
Post by: Shados on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:27:55
Post by: lilschmutz on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:30:59
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:31:53
my speed no power here :'(
Post by: CMYK on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:32:16
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:32:25
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:34:19
Post by: nmur on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:38:45
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:39:23
Post by: helpslipknotfranklins on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:39:42
Post by: sony on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:44:03
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 07 January 2017, 22:51:21
What color was the Rama 65 that was at the Seattle meetup? I couldn't tell if it was grey or silver.
I believe that was Space Gray because that's what Jchan wanted for his prototype.
Post by: WOMBO on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:02:27
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:04:21
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:06:58
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:07:29
On second thought, I think I'm wrong. This is the album. Hyperfuse rocking silver, Hack'd w/ Space Gray http://m.imgur.com/Bkggap7?rWhat color was the Rama 65 that was at the Seattle meetup? I couldn't tell if it was grey or silver.
I believe that was Space Gray because that's what Jchan wanted for his prototype.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:21:31
Post by: __ on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:31:51
Post by: CMYK on Sat, 07 January 2017, 23:45:14
On second thought, I think I'm wrong. This is the album. Hyperfuse rocking silver, Hack'd w/ Space Gray http://m.imgur.com/Bkggap7?rWhat color was the Rama 65 that was at the Seattle meetup? I couldn't tell if it was grey or silver.
I believe that was Space Gray because that's what Jchan wanted for his prototype.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
The anodizing was very nice in person. Depending on how you looked at it the sheen would change from grey to silver. The thick bezel is really classic. I ordered a GMK Hydro to hopefully get the raffle for the Hydro Blue Rama.
Post by: Fictiouz on Sun, 08 January 2017, 00:16:30
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sun, 08 January 2017, 00:18:03
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Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sun, 08 January 2017, 00:19:28
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Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 08 January 2017, 01:21:02
Post by: rawrjau on Sun, 08 January 2017, 01:47:52
Does the Canada shipping price get applied even though the option for the reduced price wasn't there for DHL and usps respectively?
Post by: hKing on Sun, 08 January 2017, 02:26:07
Post by: aznreaper on Sun, 08 January 2017, 02:27:59
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 08 January 2017, 02:40:16
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 08 January 2017, 02:43:36
RAMA is currently finishing up the mousepad design, and the leaked nudes of it look amazing!
To note: 200 people will be selected. If we get somewhere in 220, we'll just produce it all.
Whew, in!
Does the Canada shipping price get applied even though the option for the reduced price wasn't there for DHL and usps respectively?
Yessir. We're manually going through this and slowly invoicing people. That's why we put a few days to do each.
Got any bottom pictures of the alum bottom?
(http://i.imgur.com/4Z0dTHe.jpg)
Will the anodization be top-notch with no discoloration / shadows?
Yessir. You can expect the same quality anodization as the M4-A as they are being made by the same manufacturer :).
Post by: kaeeeede on Sun, 08 January 2017, 03:25:44
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 08 January 2017, 03:30:37
So is the sandwich case full dead now?
Retail for it soon :). I want to make some adjustments to it before we push it.
Post by: Vala on Sun, 08 January 2017, 03:38:27
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 08 January 2017, 03:45:01
I submitted the form, but forgot to ask if the board has N-key rollover. I'm hoping it does, is there compatibility for it? (or anything higher than 6 pretty much :))
Cheers mate. Thanks for joining in <3.
NKRO(in PS2) & 6KRO(in USB)
Post by: buzzking00 on Sun, 08 January 2017, 04:45:22
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Post by: HackJoe on Sun, 08 January 2017, 05:56:07
J.
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 08 January 2017, 07:10:58
Post by: Potatoes on Sun, 08 January 2017, 07:51:30
Post by: doooostin on Sun, 08 January 2017, 07:54:30
Post by: helpslipknotfranklins on Sun, 08 January 2017, 08:14:40
Out of curiosity, should we have gotten an email confirmation after subtmitting the form or something? I'm starting to doubt whether I entered the proper email address.
No confirm was sent.
Post by: Rafa_n on Sun, 08 January 2017, 09:29:29
Post by: poolside on Sun, 08 January 2017, 11:01:11
Post by: kmba on Sun, 08 January 2017, 13:38:13
On second thought, I think I'm wrong. This is the album. Hyperfuse rocking silver, Hack'd w/ Space Gray http://m.imgur.com/Bkggap7?rWhat color was the Rama 65 that was at the Seattle meetup? I couldn't tell if it was grey or silver.
I believe that was Space Gray because that's what Jchan wanted for his prototype.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
I think both of those are gray. They had two prototypes, one from each of two different manufacturers. They were both provided a reference color but the anodization didn't comeback the same (nor did the CNC quality).
Post by: kaeeeede on Sun, 08 January 2017, 14:46:26
So is the sandwich case full dead now?
Retail for it soon :). I want to make some adjustments to it before we push it.
Right on, dude. Thanks!
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 08 January 2017, 20:12:12
Post by: JDragon on Sun, 08 January 2017, 20:32:16
Happy birthday!
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:23:01
Our current timeline still stands, and we're looking to push it hard. If anything, it will jump up to an additional +2 weeks. Manufacturing time is our biggest hurdle at this moment, but our manufacturers are well equipped and have shown to be one of the best.
Here's a little story. Shortly after seeing the delay of about 2 weeks on the first M65-A, I grew concerned with working with manufacturer #1. We started a conversation with manufacturer #2, and then they turned the prototype around in about 2 weeks or so, and it only arrived about 2-3 days after Manufacturer #1.
Next thing, we've open sourced the PCB, and the plate should be on there soon.
Please check it out here - https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A .
BTW, thank you for all the birthday wishes:). It was a great time and I went to my favorite fast food place from my childhood. It's called El Pollo Campero. If you didn't know, my family used to live in Guatemala for a while. I used to have El Pollo Campero as a kid, and it's pretty much what made me love fried chicken. I moved to the USA when I was 4 years old, and on occasion, I go back to El Pollo Campero when I can. It's expensive though! $100 for - 30 pieces + 4 sides + 6 drinks. I still urge you to try it.
Lastly, here's a little teaser of the brass design
(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:29:05
Thanks for joining everyone. We've decided to fulfill this whole lot in order to get everything out of the way well :).
Our current timeline still stands, and we're looking to push it hard. If anything, it will jump up to an additional +2 weeks. Manufacturing time is our biggest hurdle at this moment, but our manufacturers are well equipped and have shown to be one of the best.
Here's a little story. Shortly after seeing the delay of about 2 weeks on the first M65-A, I grew concerned with working with manufacturer #1. We started a conversation with manufacturer #2, and then they turned the prototype around in about 2 weeks or so, and it only arrived about 2-3 days after Manufacturer #1.
Next thing, we've open sourced the PCB, and the plate should be on there soon.
Please check it out here - https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A .
BTW, thank you for all the birthday wishes:). It was a great time and I went to my favorite fast food place from my childhood. It's called El Pollo Campero. If you didn't know, my family used to live in Guatemala for a while. I used to have El Pollo Campero as a kid, and it's pretty much what made me love fried chicken. I moved to the USA when I was 4 years old, and on occasion, I go back to El Pollo Campero when I can. It's expensive though! $100 for - 30 pieces + 4 sides + 6 drinks. I still urge you to try it.
Lastly, here's a little teaser of the brass designShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
never heard of $100 fast food before...
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:31:23
Try it out if you have a location near you!
Post by: wodan on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:33:00
...
Join Here - Everyone will get one.Limited to 200 units w/ Raffle
...
HELL YEAH!!!
That's how you do it!!!
Is there a way to change my order? If I put in a second order will my first one be replaced?
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:33:37
...
Join Here - Everyone will get one.Limited to 200 units w/ Raffle
...
HELL YEAH!!!
That's how you do it!!!
Is there a way to change my order? If I put in a second order will my first one be replaced?
PM me with your email, and I can delete your entry :).
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:41:42
the past have. ;D
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:48:47
Does this kit come with authentic PCB mount stabilizers as well? Just wondering since your other kits in
the past have. ;D
GMK Screw in Stabs or Cherry PCB Mount stabs ? :D
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:51:38
Does this kit come with authentic PCB mount stabilizers as well? Just wondering since your other kits in
the past have. ;D
GMK Screw in Stabs or Cherry PCB Mount stabs ? :D
Do we get to pick? GMK screw in stabs would be amazing! Heck, I'd buy extra stabilizers for future builds if possible! Group buy please! :3
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 09 January 2017, 01:52:02
Thanks for joining everyone. We've decided to fulfill this whole lot in order to get everything out of the way well :).
Our current timeline still stands, and we're looking to push it hard. If anything, it will jump up to an additional +2 weeks. Manufacturing time is our biggest hurdle at this moment, but our manufacturers are well equipped and have shown to be one of the best.
Here's a little story. Shortly after seeing the delay of about 2 weeks on the first M65-A, I grew concerned with working with manufacturer #1. We started a conversation with manufacturer #2, and then they turned the prototype around in about 2 weeks or so, and it only arrived about 2-3 days after Manufacturer #1.
Next thing, we've open sourced the PCB, and the plate should be on there soon.
Please check it out here - https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A .
BTW, thank you for all the birthday wishes:). It was a great time and I went to my favorite fast food place from my childhood. It's called El Pollo Campero. If you didn't know, my family used to live in Guatemala for a while. I used to have El Pollo Campero as a kid, and it's pretty much what made me love fried chicken. I moved to the USA when I was 4 years old, and on occasion, I go back to El Pollo Campero when I can. It's expensive though! $100 for - 30 pieces + 4 sides + 6 drinks. I still urge you to try it.
Lastly, here's a little teaser of the brass designShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
That weight looks beautiful!
Is there any teaser on what the desk mats will be like? At least the general color? I've not asked for it in my order form and have been wondering it that was a mistake...
Also great news about everyone getting into this round.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 02:25:44
The deskmat is almost done ~ if you need a modification, PM me your email that you used for it. Trying to keep modifications to a minimum however. It looks awesome. I'll be getting a few samples made before we go into full production. Production only takes -> 2 weeks to turn around for the mousepads.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 09 January 2017, 02:28:54
I'll talk to GMK about their turnaround for the stabs. If anything, we'll just throw it in the GB for everyone.
The deskmat is almost done ~ if you need a modification, PM me your email that you used for it. Trying to keep modifications to a minimum however. It looks awesome. I'll be getting a few samples made before we go into full production. Production only takes -> 2 weeks to turn around for the mousepads.
Woot! GMK Screw in stabilizers for our JC65's!!
You rock, JChan! Thank you so much!!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 02:36:05
I'll enter now :)
Post by: pon10 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 04:09:20
Thanks for joining everyone. We've decided to fulfill this whole lot in order to get everything out of the way well :).
Our current timeline still stands, and we're looking to push it hard. If anything, it will jump up to an additional +2 weeks. Manufacturing time is our biggest hurdle at this moment, but our manufacturers are well equipped and have shown to be one of the best.
Here's a little story. Shortly after seeing the delay of about 2 weeks on the first M65-A, I grew concerned with working with manufacturer #1. We started a conversation with manufacturer #2, and then they turned the prototype around in about 2 weeks or so, and it only arrived about 2-3 days after Manufacturer #1.
Next thing, we've open sourced the PCB, and the plate should be on there soon.
Please check it out here - https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A .
BTW, thank you for all the birthday wishes:). It was a great time and I went to my favorite fast food place from my childhood. It's called El Pollo Campero. If you didn't know, my family used to live in Guatemala for a while. I used to have El Pollo Campero as a kid, and it's pretty much what made me love fried chicken. I moved to the USA when I was 4 years old, and on occasion, I go back to El Pollo Campero when I can. It's expensive though! $100 for - 30 pieces + 4 sides + 6 drinks. I still urge you to try it.
Lastly, here's a little teaser of the brass designShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/R7yGvNs.jpg)
THIS ****ING ROCK!!! VIVA LA POLLO!!
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 09 January 2017, 06:12:11
Post by: Potatoes on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:02:40
Thanks for letting me resubmit. I'm definitely in. Just debating on getting a deskmat or not.
Post by: milchek on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:43:47
Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:51:04
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:56:09
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:58:10
Kind of torn with the change of heart from a raffle to everyone gets one. On the one hand I'm happy now me and everyone else that wants one will get one, on the other hand im disappointed since part of the draw for me was the exclusivity of this board
There really wasn't any exclusivity because an unlimited second round was already confirmed to happen a bit after.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:58:43
Kind of torn with the change of heart from a raffle to everyone gets one. On the one hand I'm happy now me and everyone else that wants one will get one, on the other hand im disappointed since part of the draw for me was the exclusivity of this board and some of the colors in R1There were 200, and a confirmed R2? If that's exclusive to you, then don't look at other custom keyboards :-[
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 07:59:31
Kind of torn with the change of heart from a raffle to everyone gets one. On the one hand I'm happy now me and everyone else that wants one will get one, on the other hand im disappointed since part of the draw for me was the exclusivity of this board
There really wasn't any exclusivity because an unlimited second round was already confirmed to happen a bit after.
Yes but still would've been exclusive for a bit, and it was confirmed not all the colors from R1 would transfer over to R2 therefore some giving exclusive colors to R1
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Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 09 January 2017, 08:23:58
Thanks for the effort, jchan and Rama! Looks just stunning
Post by: hervuli on Mon, 09 January 2017, 08:43:43
Post by: __ on Mon, 09 January 2017, 09:28:20
(And seconding the question about Hydro blue!)
Post by: lydiainmint on Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:19:12
Post by: WillSK on Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:20:28
Here's to hoping we will see a part 2 in the future. What a fantastic looking product this is, can't wait to see people's photos when these start coming in.
Good luck with the GB all!
Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:25:47
I am genuinely beyond gutted that I can't afford one this round.
Here's to hoping we will see a part 2 in the future. What a fantastic looking product this is, can't wait to see people's photos when these start coming in.
Good luck with the GB all!
Probably won't be a round 2 now due to the limit being lifted.
Post by: madhias on Mon, 09 January 2017, 11:17:53
BTW... are there plans for HHKB case or Realforce cases? Ahem. :)
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 09 January 2017, 11:20:42
Just an idea...
Post by: _cramil on Mon, 09 January 2017, 12:28:59
Is there maybe a possibility that you can use the refunds from 1965 - that in my case didn't happen yet - to directly subtract them from this buy? So there is no PayPal-fee-rip-off?
Just an idea...
Wondering the same thing? Or at least get the refund back in my PayPal before I get invoiced for this. Really pinching now to try and get this in between pay periods.
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 09 January 2017, 13:16:47
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 09 January 2017, 13:24:19
Pardon my ignorance if i've missed it somewhere, but is there a total weight for m65-a nylon base w/ brass weight + brass plate? I'm v. curiosity.https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5iaxut/photos_m65a_aka_ramabae65_album/db6p0p4/
4lbs 1.8oz, so around 1.8 kg
Don't know if that's still accurate but it's what I could find
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 09 January 2017, 13:31:41
Pardon my ignorance if i've missed it somewhere, but is there a total weight for m65-a nylon base w/ brass weight + brass plate? I'm v. curiosity.https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5iaxut/photos_m65a_aka_ramabae65_album/db6p0p4/
4lbs 1.8oz, so around 1.8 kg
Don't know if that's still accurate but it's what I could find
Cool, sounds about right.. I'd bet the brass plate option adds another lb or two... Thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 15:24:26
Pardon my ignorance if i've missed it somewhere, but is there a total weight for m65-a nylon base w/ brass weight + brass plate? I'm v. curiosity.https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5iaxut/photos_m65a_aka_ramabae65_album/db6p0p4/
4lbs 1.8oz, so around 1.8 kg
Don't know if that's still accurate but it's what I could find
Cool, sounds about right.. I'd bet the brass plate option adds another lb or two... Thanks!
This should be pretty accurate :).
Also, yes, we removed the 200 cap in order to avoid R2.
Let me know if there are any questions. I realize a lot of people are signing up, and we may turn to -> keyclack.com to organize this a little better.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 16:58:15
Let me know if there are any questions.
QMK PCB available when ;D ?
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 09 January 2017, 18:04:49
Will we get an idea on the deskmat before the form closes? Kind of don't like buying something without knowing what it looks like.
Thanks for letting me resubmit. I'm definitely in. Just debating on getting a deskmat or not.
It's designed by Rama, so it's obviously going to be the best looking pad anyone has ever seen anyway dude.....
Post by: breckstar on Mon, 09 January 2017, 18:05:40
Also, yes, we removed the 200 cap in order to avoid R2.
Let me know if there are any questions. I realize a lot of people are signing up, and we may turn to -> keyclack.com to organize this a little better.
About the previous R2 colors, any possibility to get the theorized burgundy in R1 if there is no cap now? Or, just sticking to the current list with a possible R2, new colors, way way way down the road?
just curious thanks :)
Post by: I Got Keyed on Mon, 09 January 2017, 18:22:28
I've purchased from Mass Drop before, but I've read here that the Geekhack group buys are much better (in terms of quality and options). If I want to buy this keyboard, what do I need to do? I looked at the form, but I'll be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the language used there. "Is your body ready?" seems like a metaphysical question lol.
I am a Mac user, and don't have a PC. Would the M65-A work on Mac? (I want to be able to program my board). Before I buy, do I get to choose my switches? (I couldn't see this mentioned anywhere). What's this business about weight? Are all prices in USD?
Sorry for all the Noob questions folks. I just don't want to make a rash decision based on some pretty pictures (they are extremely pretty).
Cheers!
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 09 January 2017, 18:35:12
Hey folks, just made an account, very new here. I absolutely love the look of this keyboard, it is beyond beautiful—it's gorgeous. I'm looking to buy my first MK, which is why I'm here at Geekhack, but I'm totally new to group buys like this. In short, I need some help.
I've purchased from Mass Drop before, but I've read here that the Geekhack group buys are much better (in terms of quality and options). If I want to buy this keyboard, what do I need to do? I looked at the form, but I'll be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the language used there. "Is your body ready?" seems like a metaphysical question lol.
I am a Mac user, and don't have a PC. Would the M65-A work on Mac? (I want to be able to program my board). Before I buy, do I get to choose my switches? (I couldn't see this mentioned anywhere). What's this business about weight? Are all prices in USD?
Sorry for all the Noob questions folks. I just don't want to make a rash decision based on some pretty pictures (they are extremely pretty).
Cheers!
Hey there, welcome! Will try and answer a few questions.. might not cover them all..
Indeed it is a beautiful keyboard! You can use it on mac, im not sure about the programming part, someone else with more knowledge might be able to help in that respect. Shouldn't be any reason you couldn't use it with a mac though!
The form has some unique questions, which are just JChans coolness showing through his questionnaire. There has been a TON of hype around the board, so he's just checking to make sure we can handle the awesomeness... Good guy Jchan.
As for the group buy experience, there is always a risk of delays, however i have had nothing but good experiences thus far with Jchan/keyclack. He works hard to get things out on time, seems like the manufacturer for this is on-point as well..
Prices are in USD, weight is listed because this is a hefty keyboard. Most higher-end boards use denser materials (brass) to add some weight to the board, this board in particular has a brass weight on the bottom, and option of a heavier, and more rigid brass plate.
For this kit in particular, you will need to supply your own switches and keycaps -I believe you will need stabilizers as well. Although i read something somewhere about GMK stabilizers.. Anyways, hope this helps. The buy was a 'raffle' type of buy, but is now 'open' group buy meaning anyone can submit a form and will get a keyboard.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 18:48:57
I'm talking to GMK about the stabs and seeing if we can get them in time and all. If not, I'll include Cherry PCB stabs :)
Edit:
Here are some files we decided to release -> https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:19:18
https://www.facebook.com/ramaworks
He just released a WIP for something :). We'll see where this goes.... the deskmat? the box? What do we do with this?!
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15896271_623101084556905_8311342907219821438_o.jpg?oh=fa4030c5a0ea65f1b91261350ea5c2ea&oe=591D06E2)
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:21:58
Forgot to say, but if you don't already do, follow RAMA on Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/ramaworks
He just released a WIP for something :). We'll see where this goes.... the deskmat? the box? What do we do with this?!Show Image(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15896271_623101084556905_8311342907219821438_o.jpg?oh=fa4030c5a0ea65f1b91261350ea5c2ea&oe=591D06E2)
Tissue wrapping paper inside the box, duh. I'll need it to wipe my tears of joy from unboxing.
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:23:30
Thanks for answering the questions BAS1C.
I'm talking to GMK about the stabs and seeing if we can get them in time and all. If not, I'll include Cherry PCB stabs :)
Edit:
Here are some files we decided to release -> https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
This is so rad, thank you so much for open-sourcing the plate and PCB. Great to know we have the means to reproduce them later if we'd like more. Polycarb or carbon fiber plate anyone? :D
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:46
Forgot to say, but if you don't already do, follow RAMA on Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/ramaworks
He just released a WIP for something :). We'll see where this goes.... the deskmat? the box? What do we do with this?!Show Image(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15896271_623101084556905_8311342907219821438_o.jpg?oh=fa4030c5a0ea65f1b91261350ea5c2ea&oe=591D06E2)
Tissue wrapping paper inside the box, duh. I'll need it to wipe my tears of joy from unboxing.
I think there will be a lot of people wiping away a very different substance......
Post by: I Got Keyed on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:38:53
Hey folks, just made an account, very new here. I absolutely love the look of this keyboard, it is beyond beautiful—it's gorgeous. I'm looking to buy my first MK, which is why I'm here at Geekhack, but I'm totally new to group buys like this. In short, I need some help.
I've purchased from Mass Drop before, but I've read here that the Geekhack group buys are much better (in terms of quality and options). If I want to buy this keyboard, what do I need to do? I looked at the form, but I'll be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the language used there. "Is your body ready?" seems like a metaphysical question lol.
I am a Mac user, and don't have a PC. Would the M65-A work on Mac? (I want to be able to program my board). Before I buy, do I get to choose my switches? (I couldn't see this mentioned anywhere). What's this business about weight? Are all prices in USD?
Sorry for all the Noob questions folks. I just don't want to make a rash decision based on some pretty pictures (they are extremely pretty).
Cheers!
Hey there, welcome! Will try and answer a few questions.. might not cover them all..
Indeed it is a beautiful keyboard! You can use it on mac, im not sure about the programming part, someone else with more knowledge might be able to help in that respect. Shouldn't be any reason you couldn't use it with a mac though!
The form has some unique questions, which are just JChans coolness showing through his questionnaire. There has been a TON of hype around the board, so he's just checking to make sure we can handle the awesomeness... Good guy Jchan.
As for the group buy experience, there is always a risk of delays, however i have had nothing but good experiences thus far with Jchan/keyclack. He works hard to get things out on time, seems like the manufacturer for this is on-point as well..
Prices are in USD, weight is listed because this is a hefty keyboard. Most higher-end boards use denser materials (brass) to add some weight to the board, this board in particular has a brass weight on the bottom, and option of a heavier, and more rigid brass plate.
For this kit in particular, you will need to supply your own switches and keycaps -I believe you will need stabilizers as well. Although i read something somewhere about GMK stabilizers.. Anyways, hope this helps. The buy was a 'raffle' type of buy, but is now 'open' group buy meaning anyone can submit a form and will get a keyboard.
Thanks for this BAS1C and Jchan! (I have followed the Facebook page).
I'm glad I asked, because I don't think I'm ready to provide my own switches etc. Maybe for my second board I'll consider getting into the building/soldering side of MKs. At this stage I'm just looking to buy a high quality out of the box back lit MK that's fully programable on Mac. (Also wanting to do custom keys in the future too).
I've received a tonne of good advice from /r/Mk, but now I'm even more conscious that I need to make the "right choice"—if such a choice truly does exist—instead of just jumping at attractive options. Was looking at the TADA68, but originative has sold out, and TaoBao is a nightmare to navigate. Now I feel like I'm back to square one.
Anyways, maybe I'll make a post on Geekhack asking for advice. Where would be the appropriate forum for those kind of questions about purchasing and decision making etc? I'm conscious that this probably not the place to be asking these questions.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:43:43
Hey folks, just made an account, very new here. I absolutely love the look of this keyboard, it is beyond beautiful—it's gorgeous. I'm looking to buy my first MK, which is why I'm here at Geekhack, but I'm totally new to group buys like this. In short, I need some help.
I've purchased from Mass Drop before, but I've read here that the Geekhack group buys are much better (in terms of quality and options). If I want to buy this keyboard, what do I need to do? I looked at the form, but I'll be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the language used there. "Is your body ready?" seems like a metaphysical question lol.
I am a Mac user, and don't have a PC. Would the M65-A work on Mac? (I want to be able to program my board). Before I buy, do I get to choose my switches? (I couldn't see this mentioned anywhere). What's this business about weight? Are all prices in USD?
Sorry for all the Noob questions folks. I just don't want to make a rash decision based on some pretty pictures (they are extremely pretty).
Cheers!
Hey there, welcome! Will try and answer a few questions.. might not cover them all..
Indeed it is a beautiful keyboard! You can use it on mac, im not sure about the programming part, someone else with more knowledge might be able to help in that respect. Shouldn't be any reason you couldn't use it with a mac though!
The form has some unique questions, which are just JChans coolness showing through his questionnaire. There has been a TON of hype around the board, so he's just checking to make sure we can handle the awesomeness... Good guy Jchan.
As for the group buy experience, there is always a risk of delays, however i have had nothing but good experiences thus far with Jchan/keyclack. He works hard to get things out on time, seems like the manufacturer for this is on-point as well..
Prices are in USD, weight is listed because this is a hefty keyboard. Most higher-end boards use denser materials (brass) to add some weight to the board, this board in particular has a brass weight on the bottom, and option of a heavier, and more rigid brass plate.
For this kit in particular, you will need to supply your own switches and keycaps -I believe you will need stabilizers as well. Although i read something somewhere about GMK stabilizers.. Anyways, hope this helps. The buy was a 'raffle' type of buy, but is now 'open' group buy meaning anyone can submit a form and will get a keyboard.
Thanks for this BAS1C and Jchan! (I have followed the Facebook page).
I'm glad I asked, because I don't think I'm ready to provide my own switches etc. Maybe for my second board I'll consider getting into the building/soldering side of MKs. At this stage I'm just looking to buy a high quality out of the box back lit MK that's fully programable on Mac. (Also wanting to do custom keys in the future too).
I've received a tonne of good advice from /r/Mk, but now I'm even more conscious that I need to make the "right choice"—if such a choice truly does exist—instead of just jumping at attractive options. Was looking at the TADA68, but originative has sold out, and TaoBao is a nightmare to navigate. Now I feel like I'm back to square one.
Anyways, maybe I'll make a post on Geekhack asking for advice. Where would be the appropriate forum for those kind of questions about purchasing and decision making etc? I'm conscious that this probably not the place to be asking these questions.
My highest recommendation is to get Zealios and then asking someone to build it. I'd ask /u/quakemz. He helped build the first M65-A :) You can ask on reddit itself. I think they're great with buying advice if you give them what options you're weighing.
https://www.reddit.com/user/quakemz
Post by: I Got Keyed on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:50:53
Hey folks, just made an account, very new here. I absolutely love the look of this keyboard, it is beyond beautiful—it's gorgeous. I'm looking to buy my first MK, which is why I'm here at Geekhack, but I'm totally new to group buys like this. In short, I need some help.
I've purchased from Mass Drop before, but I've read here that the Geekhack group buys are much better (in terms of quality and options). If I want to buy this keyboard, what do I need to do? I looked at the form, but I'll be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the language used there. "Is your body ready?" seems like a metaphysical question lol.
I am a Mac user, and don't have a PC. Would the M65-A work on Mac? (I want to be able to program my board). Before I buy, do I get to choose my switches? (I couldn't see this mentioned anywhere). What's this business about weight? Are all prices in USD?
Sorry for all the Noob questions folks. I just don't want to make a rash decision based on some pretty pictures (they are extremely pretty).
Cheers!
Hey there, welcome! Will try and answer a few questions.. might not cover them all..
Indeed it is a beautiful keyboard! You can use it on mac, im not sure about the programming part, someone else with more knowledge might be able to help in that respect. Shouldn't be any reason you couldn't use it with a mac though!
The form has some unique questions, which are just JChans coolness showing through his questionnaire. There has been a TON of hype around the board, so he's just checking to make sure we can handle the awesomeness... Good guy Jchan.
As for the group buy experience, there is always a risk of delays, however i have had nothing but good experiences thus far with Jchan/keyclack. He works hard to get things out on time, seems like the manufacturer for this is on-point as well..
Prices are in USD, weight is listed because this is a hefty keyboard. Most higher-end boards use denser materials (brass) to add some weight to the board, this board in particular has a brass weight on the bottom, and option of a heavier, and more rigid brass plate.
For this kit in particular, you will need to supply your own switches and keycaps -I believe you will need stabilizers as well. Although i read something somewhere about GMK stabilizers.. Anyways, hope this helps. The buy was a 'raffle' type of buy, but is now 'open' group buy meaning anyone can submit a form and will get a keyboard.
Thanks for this BAS1C and Jchan! (I have followed the Facebook page).
I'm glad I asked, because I don't think I'm ready to provide my own switches etc. Maybe for my second board I'll consider getting into the building/soldering side of MKs. At this stage I'm just looking to buy a high quality out of the box back lit MK that's fully programable on Mac. (Also wanting to do custom keys in the future too).
I've received a tonne of good advice from /r/Mk, but now I'm even more conscious that I need to make the "right choice"—if such a choice truly does exist—instead of just jumping at attractive options. Was looking at the TADA68, but originative has sold out, and TaoBao is a nightmare to navigate. Now I feel like I'm back to square one.
Anyways, maybe I'll make a post on Geekhack asking for advice. Where would be the appropriate forum for those kind of questions about purchasing and decision making etc? I'm conscious that this probably not the place to be asking these questions.
My highest recommendation is to get Zealios and then asking someone to build it. I'd ask /u/quakemz. He helped build the first M65-A :) You can ask on reddit itself. I think they're great with buying advice if you give them what options you're weighing.
https://www.reddit.com/user/quakemz
Thanks so much for this jchan! I will PM him to see if he's willing and for how much. Cheers!
Post by: hervuli on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:52:17
So psyched for this! Now that the 200 cap is lifted, will everyone who wants Hydro Blue get one, or is that color still capped at a specific quantity? If so, will folks who wanted it but don't get it have a chance to put in an order for a non-exclusive color?
Hey jchan, just wanted to echo this question from earlier - thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 20:01:23
Hydro blue is only available for those who got Hydro (at any phase). There is no "cap" on it.
edit:
Oh looks like I got my things redirected.
yay! keyclack subforum
Post by: lilschmutz on Mon, 09 January 2017, 21:07:09
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 09 January 2017, 21:18:11
For those of you who have used a brass plate - is there any noticeable difference between brass and aluminum?
I believe it strongly depends on the case design and materials as well. For instance, if your PCB and plate are bolted to the bottom case, and the case is very rigid, even aluminum plate will feel quite rigid (examples are 60% type cases with drop-in PCBs or Lightsaver). If your case is like LZ-GH or KMAC where the plate is screwed into the top part of the case and then the PCB/plate are suspended over the bottom, then some plates will be "springier" than others (yield a bit more as you press down).'
I think in this case, if I understand these diagrams correctly: https://rama.works/#/m65a/
the plate+PCB will be screwed into the top and suspended over the bottom part of the case. So aluminum will be the most "springy", steel probably the least. I've read that brass is in-between, but cannot attest to that from experience.
Post by: FLOCKA on Mon, 09 January 2017, 22:10:40
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Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 22:28:09
Anybody know what's going on with the stabilizers? I know they were mentioned a few times during the IC but I'm wondering if I should start sourcing my own. If so, where might one acquire some fine screw-in stabilizers worthy of this magnificent board?
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We'll provide them (Cherry ones), if we can't get the GMK ones in time.
Post by: FLOCKA on Mon, 09 January 2017, 22:29:51
Anybody know what's going on with the stabilizers? I know they were mentioned a few times during the IC but I'm wondering if I should start sourcing my own. If so, where might one acquire some fine screw-in stabilizers worthy of this magnificent board?
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We'll provide them (Cherry ones), if we can't get the GMK ones in time.
Most excellent, thank you!
Post by: kmba on Tue, 10 January 2017, 00:11:11
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 00:49:35
When is the form going to close?
Form Closes Jan 11, though QuakeMZ is doing a small review and said he'll post in on 11. We'll extend the buy to Jan 13, and Invoicing is due -> Jan 17.
Post by: PriusProblems on Tue, 10 January 2017, 10:35:43
Sorry I missed it!Damn. I guess that I'm not joining this then, I wanted to pair with SA Dasher, or Devlin Skidata. :(
Hydro blue is only available for those who got Hydro (at any phase). There is no "cap" on it.
edit:
Oh looks like I got my things redirected.
yay! keyclack subforum
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:46:05
Post by: fanman888 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:43:36
Anybody know what's going on with the stabilizers? I know they were mentioned a few times during the IC but I'm wondering if I should start sourcing my own. If so, where might one acquire some fine screw-in stabilizers worthy of this magnificent board?
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If you don't want to settle for the plain cherry ones, ZealPC said R5 of his GB will ship in unison with the M65-A projected ship date. You can get some sexy clear screw-in stabs from him, though they are at a premium cost.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 18:36:12
I just replied to everyone's PMs and emails regarding this :). Please let me know if there are any other questions and such, or anything that is not clear!
Lastly, I've requested 2x new plates to be made in: Brushed Brass + Polished Brass. We're testing out the polishing to see if it's possible without deformations and such. If not, we'll go with Brushed.
Leandren has shared with me this photo of brushed brass that is used on his FJELL case (btw, make sure to check that out!)
Here is the image from his instagram:
Make sure to follow him on instagram as well! - https://www.instagram.com/p/BOuvDOqBgoO/
(https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15625082_1719870744994588_6230721597611704320_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQxODI3Nzg2Mjc1MDE2MTQyMg%3D%3D.2)
Post by: eldridge on Wed, 11 January 2017, 01:02:01
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 11 January 2017, 03:27:50
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 03:48:38
I've to change my PP email address due to some PP issues, is there a possibility to edit my form? ;D
If we have already submitted a form, but had a change of heart on color or plate, is there anyway to change? Resubmit?Please email me.
Jchan@keyclack.com. Messages are getting lost in Geekhack pm for me..i can't to which I've responded to aha.
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 04:19:27
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 11 January 2017, 15:49:06
And for the large bolts: all one color, ones underneath as well? (my current order is for all-pink, so I hope all the bolts will be silver in that case).
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 15:54:42
Quick question about the color-matched rubber feet: are they getting matched to the bottom? Or the top? Because for example if I get a rose gold top + space gray bottom, I think pink rubber feet would be a good combination as an accent to match the top.
And for the large bolts: all one color, ones underneath as well? (my current order is for all-pink, so I hope all the bolts will be silver in that case).
Hi,
It matches the top piece :). Accents way better.
All bolts are the same color.
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 11 January 2017, 16:03:17
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 11 January 2017, 16:40:36
Excellent! Thanks so much for the quick reply. In your subjective opinion, since you've seen Space Gray in person I think, would rose gold top + space gray bottom be a poor match? Can't decide if I should stick with all rose gold or go for a different color for the bottom to make it more interesting (I won't really be seeing the bottom much anyway...)Why not both?
Completed the form, I can't wait!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 16:43:05
Excellent! Thanks so much for the quick reply. In your subjective opinion, since you've seen Space Gray in person I think, would rose gold top + space gray bottom be a poor match? Can't decide if I should stick with all rose gold or go for a different color for the bottom to make it more interesting (I won't really be seeing the bottom much anyway...)
Weird! I thought I responded.
I would say that will match poorly, but that's my subjective opinion. I also view it with what keyset you'll put onto it. Not many will match well.
I'd go with a silver bottom to match way better with sets such as Valentine which have lighter overall tone.
Post by: breckstar on Wed, 11 January 2017, 19:32:48
Now that everyone is getting one, are we allowed to order more than one?This ever get answered?
Curious, wanting space gray and maybe silver :p
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 19:35:01
Now that everyone is getting one, are we allowed to order more than one?This ever get answered?
Curious, wanting space gray and maybe silver :p
If you submit twice, you'll get an invoice for two.
Post by: breckstar on Wed, 11 January 2017, 20:00:31
Now that everyone is getting one, are we allowed to order more than one?This ever get answered?
Curious, wanting space gray and maybe silver :p
If you submit twice, you'll get an invoice for two.
Oooh :) Any opinions on these combos:
Jukebox SA + Champagne
Valentine SA + Silver
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 January 2017, 20:10:15
Now that everyone is getting one, are we allowed to order more than one?This ever get answered?
Curious, wanting space gray and maybe silver :p
If you submit twice, you'll get an invoice for two.
Oooh :) Any opinions on these combos:
Jukebox SA + Champagne
Valentine SA + Silver
SA is ****.
1. Why?
2. Colors are nice.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 20:14:20
Thanks for the tremendous support.
The form closes TONIGHT at midnight PST (in 6 hours of this post).
Invoicing will commence tomorrow. Your order will be outlined with detail and all.
Important notice for International Destination Shipments
Also, for those wondering, I have acquired better business DHL quotes for international. All international (outside of USA) will be DHL only. The price will match that of your USPS charge (so we don't lose these in the mail).
Thanks for helping Keyclack grow. We hope to offer better and better things.
Post by: breckstar on Wed, 11 January 2017, 20:18:05
Now that everyone is getting one, are we allowed to order more than one?This ever get answered?
Curious, wanting space gray and maybe silver :p
If you submit twice, you'll get an invoice for two.
Oooh :) Any opinions on these combos:
Jukebox SA + Champagne
Valentine SA + Silver
SA is ****.
1. Why?
2. Colors are nice.
1. I've been cursed with the burden of having the feels for SA
2. Think so? Thinking about going all in on this
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:16:59
I've to change my PP email address due to some PP issues, is there a possibility to edit my form? ;DIf we have already submitted a form, but had a change of heart on color or plate, is there anyway to change? Resubmit?Please email me.
Jchan@keyclack.com. Messages are getting lost in Geekhack pm for me..i can't to which I've responded to aha.
Sent you an email, can't wait for the invoice! :D
Post by: robbles on Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:17:38
Post by: Shiro583 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:36:37
I won't have the funds for this gb, but I'm assuming there will be more keyboard collabs with Rama in the future?
Yep.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.0
It's not through Keyclack, but Rama's been pretty active lately between this, Exent, and his recent M10-A and M4-A runs.
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:53:50
Post by: kmba on Wed, 11 January 2017, 23:06:08
Possible LayoutsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/kqb4ySi.png)
Anyone know if this will support split space with the 2.75u on the right instead of left.
edit: I downloaded the plate and it won't work. only in the shown configuration.
Post by: dyoungc on Wed, 11 January 2017, 23:40:51
I submitted in time for the close date, but you mentioned earlier that it might be extended to Jan 13, and that a polished brass plate might be an added option.
Is there still time to cancel and reorder with a brass plate? (I chose alum in my first order)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 00:10:42
Thanks for providing the GB!
I submitted in time for the close date, but you mentioned earlier that it might be extended to Jan 13, and that a polished brass plate might be an added option.
Is there still time to cancel and reorder with a brass plate? (I chose alum in my first order)
Hey,
If you need an adjustment, please email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
We're closing it 2 hours of writing this post because we should submit our payment to our manufacturer ASAP.
On top of that, invoicing will take a while. Please try to pay immediately. There's a lot of tracking we have to do in order to make this go smoothly.
This is an example of what you will receive via paypal invoicing.
Remember that all kits include by default:
1. Brass Weight
2. The Plate (or upgrade to brass)
3. Screws
4. Rubber Feet
Paypal fees are not stacked because that is against paypal policy. If you are in California, you are subjected to sales tax (unfortunately, sorry).
(https://i.gyazo.com/4a55f8f68c9ba2ce36ce753eab9cbf01.png)
Post by: eldridge on Thu, 12 January 2017, 00:20:09
Please email me.Just sent an email, thanks!
Jchan@keyclack.com. Messages are getting lost in Geekhack pm for me..i can't to which I've responded to aha.
Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 12 January 2017, 00:49:36
Finally made my choice though and submitted. Thanks for the GB what an exciting keyboard!
Post by: Potatoes on Thu, 12 January 2017, 01:39:30
The choice between rose gold and champagne was killing me :-\
Finally made my choice though and submitted. Thanks for the GB what an exciting keyboard!
What did you choose? Because I'm literally on that same decision with 20 minutes left to submit. :-\
Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 12 January 2017, 02:03:14
The choice between rose gold and champagne was killing me :-\
Finally made my choice though and submitted. Thanks for the GB what an exciting keyboard!
What did you choose? Because I'm literally on that same decision with 20 minutes left to submit. :-\
I went with Champagne in the end because I think it's gonna go well with more keysets than rose gold. But man I'm already second guessing the decision ha
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 02:10:21
Invoices are due: January 17. Our payment will transfer -> January 20th to the manufacturers.
Please remember your invoice will detail what you selected throughout the form.
Also, please keep in mind these weights (approximate). Your invoice for shipping will be for the estimated total to your destination.
ALU6061 Top Piece = 1lb 3oz (0.54kg)
Brass Weight = 7oz (0.20kg)
Nylon Base = 1lb 2oz (0.51kg)
Aluminum Base = 1lbs 13oz (0.82kg)
Alu Plate = 6oz (0.17kg)
Brass Plate = 1lb (0.45kg)
Mousepad = 1lb 10oz (0.74kg)
For example, if you got one of everything, your weight is approximately 7.5lbs (excluding packaging), which will is approximately 1.5lbs including shipping box weight.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 05:11:10
I just ran through everyones shipping calculations.
If you're on the east coast, looks like it will cost up to $40.00 to ship this.
If you're international, some DHL quotes came out to be $130.00 (like vietnam, and some parts of Australia), but I opted you for USPS Priority International for your package. However, some of you devils have opted for two, so you'll see the charges accordingly.
Otherwise, DHL is less than $78.00 for these packages otherwise (unless you opted for DHL only).
edit
no more changes now. we're going to start invoicing soon.
Post by: Theachromatic on Thu, 12 January 2017, 09:20:56
Hi everyone,
I just ran through everyones shipping calculations.
If you're on the east coast, looks like it will cost up to $40.00 to ship this.
If you're international, some DHL quotes came out to be $130.00 (like vietnam, and some parts of Australia), but I opted you for USPS Priority International for your package. However, some of you devils have opted for two, so you'll see the charges accordingly.
Otherwise, DHL is less than $78.00 for these packages otherwise (unless you opted for DHL only).
edit
no more changes now. we're going to start invoicing soon.
Hey, weird question... I joined a few group buys over the past week, and I am not sure wether I entered this one or not. Is it possible to check? I used this GH username.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 13:52:10
Guess I won't really miss it! :P
Post by: maltedsoyamilk on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:44:59
Post by: kustom3 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:46:16
How to know who won in the raffle
They lifted the raffle, everyone gets in :)
Post by: helpslipknotfranklins on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:46:36
How to know who won in the raffle
Everyone won!
They decided to accept everyone who submitted a form.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:50:05
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:04:29
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
If I wasn't such a sucker for exclusivity and matching my incoming Hydro keyset, I would have DEFINITELY chosen Space Gray over Hydro Blue. There's just something about dark grays I can't get enough of!
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:06:55
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
If I wasn't such a sucker for exclusivity and matching my incoming Hydro keyset, I would have DEFINITELY chosen Space Gray over Hydro Blue. There's just something about dark grays I can't get enough of!
I would have done space gray top + hydro blue bottom (or vice versa).
Post by: Dodgy on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:09:30
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:38:41
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
10% silver, 5%Champagne (for the ones you can't see).
(https://i.gyazo.com/7f9b8496eb81084f10c47bf9ceba5c36.png)
Oh jesus, I think I may have listed the wrong paypal address to be invoiced... Any way to remedy/check this? I feel like such a dummy. :-[
Please email me your paypal address -> Jchan@keyclack.com
Post by: Biggestmac on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:46:41
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:48:03
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
10% silver, 5%Champagne (for the ones you can't see).Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/7f9b8496eb81084f10c47bf9ceba5c36.png)Oh jesus, I think I may have listed the wrong paypal address to be invoiced... Any way to remedy/check this? I feel like such a dummy. :-[
Please email me your paypal address -> Jchan@keyclack.com
Holy cow, close to 500 responses and almost 50 of them are Hydro blue pieces?! :o
That's amazing, especially if all invoices are paid and everyone who responded gets one!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:48:54
Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :). But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)
(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:52:18
Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :) . But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
I think I'm starting to regret not opting in for that mousepad now that I see that second, sweet gray design... Once a design is finalized, will there be an opportunity to add it back on?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 15:57:04
Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :) . But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
I think I'm starting to regret not opting in for that mousepad now that I see that second, sweet gray design... Once a design is finalized, will there be an opportunity to add it back on?
We'll be ordering a few extras at FCFS.
Also, we're going to start invoicing this evening as I close 1965 refunds.
Post by: aggroxcraig on Thu, 12 January 2017, 16:09:41
Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :). But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
I'm so glad that I signed up for this. :D
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 12 January 2017, 16:26:38
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
10% silver, 5%Champagne (for the ones you can't see).Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/7f9b8496eb81084f10c47bf9ceba5c36.png)
Hah! I thought Space Gray would be the predominant color. It's indeed very nice.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 18:43:15
My friend is working on invoicing.
So far, we are done with about 40 of them, and already a few have paid. Thank you for everything.
We hope to get this train rolling fast.
RAMA and I are working on special packaging for this as I'm also thinking we need a few extra goodies for all the R1 supporters. I'm thinking special stickers for everyone, and some other type of swag ;)
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 12 January 2017, 18:53:26
Hi everyone,
My friend is working on invoicing.
So far, we are done with about 40 of them, and already a few have paid. Thank you for everything.
We hope to get this train rolling fast.
RAMA and I are working on special packaging for this as I'm also thinking we need a few extra goodies for all the R1 supporters. I'm thinking special stickers for everyone, and some other type of swag ;)
YAY COOL THINGS. Can't wait for everything jchan94, hope everything runs smoothly !
Post by: __ on Thu, 12 January 2017, 18:54:23
Hi everyone,
My friend is working on invoicing.
So far, we are done with about 40 of them, and already a few have paid. Thank you for everything.
We hope to get this train rolling fast.
RAMA and I are working on special packaging for this as I'm also thinking we need a few extra goodies for all the R1 supporters. I'm thinking special stickers for everyone, and some other type of swag ;)
Huzzah swag! Y'all rock.
Patiently awaiting the invoice so I can rip that bandaid off now and sulk later. Think you might be able to tweak mine to add in one of the mousepads though? /u/________________end_ is the username tagged to the two orders. If not, I can wait for extras of course - my own fault for not putting it in there!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 18:58:29
Hi everyone,
My friend is working on invoicing.
So far, we are done with about 40 of them, and already a few have paid. Thank you for everything.
We hope to get this train rolling fast.
RAMA and I are working on special packaging for this as I'm also thinking we need a few extra goodies for all the R1 supporters. I'm thinking special stickers for everyone, and some other type of swag ;)
Huzzah swag! Y'all rock.
Patiently awaiting the invoice so I can rip that bandaid off now and sulk later. Think you might be able to tweak mine to add in one of the mousepads though? /u/________________end_ is the username tagged to the two orders. If not, I can wait for extras of course - my own fault for not putting it in there!
I've added your mousepad.
Lastly, I just received in the mail: the new PCB that works with split spacebar and all.
The new plates (brass and such) arrive next week, and I'll do a build for it with some funky layout.
I'm thinking ISO Enter with split spacebar and split backspace? Probably pair it with Hydro ;)
Post by: kustom3 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 18:59:24
Now let's hear the color breakdown for the order total ;) For some reason I feel like Champagne will be the least-ordered color. Though could be Hydro Blue, because of the GB restriction. I think Space Gray will be at the top.
10% silver, 5%Champagne (for the ones you can't see).Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/7f9b8496eb81084f10c47bf9ceba5c36.png)Oh jesus, I think I may have listed the wrong paypal address to be invoiced... Any way to remedy/check this? I feel like such a dummy. :-[
Please email me your paypal address -> Jchan@keyclack.com
Wow congrats on the numbers! Since this quite a sample of data, there should enough to make a cool looking infographic sometime when things go quiet. Maybe include countries, GH/Reddit proportions, how many tons this is going to weight etc.
Edit: Paid.
Post by: __ on Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:06:02
I've added your mousepad.
Lastly, I just received in the mail: the new PCB that works with split spacebar and all.
The new plates (brass and such) arrive next week, and I'll do a build for it with some funky layout.
I'm thinking ISO Enter with split spacebar and split backspace? Probably pair it with Hydro ;)
Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for the accommodation!
Note to self - put split spacebars in the SA NASA GB.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:16:07
Hi everyone,
My friend is working on invoicing.
So far, we are done with about 40 of them, and already a few have paid. Thank you for everything.
We hope to get this train rolling fast.
RAMA and I are working on special packaging for this as I'm also thinking we need a few extra goodies for all the R1 supporters. I'm thinking special stickers for everyone, and some other type of swag ;)
Huzzah swag! Y'all rock.
Patiently awaiting the invoice so I can rip that bandaid off now and sulk later. Think you might be able to tweak mine to add in one of the mousepads though? /u/________________end_ is the username tagged to the two orders. If not, I can wait for extras of course - my own fault for not putting it in there!
I've added your mousepad.
Lastly, I just received in the mail: the new PCB that works with split spacebar and all.
The new plates (brass and such) arrive next week, and I'll do a build for it with some funky layout.
I'm thinking ISO Enter with split spacebar and split backspace? Probably pair it with Hydro ;)
Paid! Excited to see how split spacebar will look. If only Hydro supported Split spacebar with blanks :p
Post by: rawrjau on Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:21:29
Post by: breitling on Thu, 12 January 2017, 20:03:55
Post by: zaerst on Thu, 12 January 2017, 20:29:30
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 20:57:19
Invoicing is still happening right now.
If you catch anything off, please email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
If you have any questions/concerns that pertain to your specific order, please email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
This is the preferred method of communication since the PM system doesn't create thread messages like gmail.
Thanks so much!
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:27:39
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:30:16
Should we wait till tomorrow or the day after to contact you if we haven't gotten an invoice?
Timeline says invoicing man 12-14. Sooo should be ok to wait until then, I guess unless he says they are done invoicing tomorrow at some point.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:34:56
Should we wait till tomorrow or the day after to contact you if we haven't gotten an invoice?
Hi,
You'll get an invoice sometime tonight.
If you don't get one, that's probably because of an email input error.
If this happens, please email jchan@keyclack.com
---
Also, someone pointed out to me that FEDEX is cheaper domestically for USPS shipments at heavier weights.
We'll be switching these more expensive ones to Fedex, which is about $28.00, if that is what we're quoted for your destination address.
If you've been charged $40.00 for USPS (looking at people in the Eastern Region of the USA), we'll revisit your quote.
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:40:38
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:41:06
paid! ty jchan :)
Post by: Jpecina on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:42:44
Should we wait till tomorrow or the day after to contact you if we haven't gotten an invoice?
Hi,
You'll get an invoice sometime tonight.
If you don't get one, that's probably because of an email input error.
If this happens, please email jchan@keyclack.com
---
Also, someone pointed out to me that FEDEX is cheaper domestically for USPS shipments at heavier weights.
We'll be switching these more expensive ones to Fedex, which is about $28.00, if that is what we're quoted for your destination address.
If you've been charged $40.00 for USPS (looking at people in the Eastern Region of the USA), we'll revisit your quote.
Does this mean that invoicing will conclude tonight? If so then that's some quick invoicing! Hoping I didn't mess up my form
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:49:11
If you already got an invoice, you should have gotten one updated by now with FEDEX Prices.
they are anywhere from $4-$12 cheaper dependin your location.
You should get an invoice tonight (in California time).
Edit:
If you got charged for $40.00 USPS for DOMESTIC, you've been refunded the difference. <-- this is only domestic.
International is all USPS Priority or DHL.
Post by: Fitzpa on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:53:55
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:58:16
What kind of cable do we use with this and is one provided?
None are provided. But you need MINI-B
edit:
Go hit up /u/90n1ne for a custom, or P3xon for one as well.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 22:39:26
What kind of cable do we use with this and is one provided?
What kind of cable do we use with this and is one provided?
None are provided. But you need MINI-B
edit:
Go hit up /u/90n1ne for a custom, or P3xon for one as well.
Aww crap, and to think I ordered my Hydro cable months ago with MICRO-B, if only I knew! Lol
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 12 January 2017, 23:15:05
Let the waiting begin!
Post by: doooostin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 23:17:45
Staring at paypal ready to pay :).
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 23:33:02
We're almost half way through.
All international are done (except VN). Domestic are being worked on. If you didn't get an invoice for international, please email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
Please pay as soon as you can. The invoices are due on the 17th, and we'll send a reminder via paypal on the 15th with a mass email to everyone on the 16th.
Our bulk order to the manufacturer should be going to the manufacturer on the 20th, and our timeline will begin.
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:20:44
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:25:03
I received the invoice but not the 1965 refund?Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :) . But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
I think I'm starting to regret not opting in for that mousepad now that I see that second, sweet gray design... Once a design is finalized, will there be an opportunity to add it back on?
We'll be ordering a few extras at FCFS.
Also, we're going to start invoicing this evening as I close 1965 refunds.
Post by: wodan on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:25:55
I think in this case, if I understand these diagrams correctly: https://rama.works/#/m65a/
the plate+PCB will be screwed into the top and suspended over the bottom part of the case.
Can anyone confirm this? This is the only way for me ...
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:27:47
I received the invoice but not the 1965 refund?Any chance we can get something to show the design of the add on mouse pad too? Super excited for this case, thanks for this!
RAMA is working on a few designs. He is really particular and wants to take his time :) . But here are some "Work In Progresses" that he has shared.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/56hrwvtC7vLK4DvmVCArl-jONPseopEd48iWLtaclRo.jpg?w=1024&s=e87ec917874123c3df563573b27cf711)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png)
I think I'm starting to regret not opting in for that mousepad now that I see that second, sweet gray design... Once a design is finalized, will there be an opportunity to add it back on?
We'll be ordering a few extras at FCFS.
Also, we're going to start invoicing this evening as I close 1965 refunds.
Hi,
I'm processing refunds. I have a friend working on invoicing. Invoicing is a lot faster than the refunds (due to speed from my site -> paypal). A better system in the future. I really dislike this.
I have the invoice waiting for me in my inbox, but I can't help but think I made the wrong choices in terms of color.
Email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:31:33
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:36:27
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:44:54
I probably just missed it in the thread but I thought the $210 price included the PCB. Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally select an extra PCB when filling out the form. If it's correct I'll pay the invoice right away!
The PCB was not included in the base price of the case, those prices were independent of one another.
$210 w/ Nylon Base
$230 w/ Alu Base
$40 PCB
Post by: Crossfire on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:45:48
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:53:22
Are you sending out the invoices right now? when is the dead line to pay invoice?
Thanks
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:59:43
Because of really high customs & taxation on international orders - will there be a possibility to kind of put a lower value on the parcel? Like 50$ or similar?
;)
Hello Jchan
Are you sending out the invoices right now? when is the dead line to pay invoice?
Thanks
Invoices are being rolled out.
Our current timeline is:
January 12 - Finish Invoice
January 15 - Send Email to Pay Invoice
January 16 - Send Paypal Reminder to Pay Invoice.
January 17 - Payment Deadline
January 19/20 - Submit Payment
Wait 50 work days (which is about 6 days a week, but is exclusive of CNY)
Wait for Freight Time
Arrives. Open them up. Check the parts (though the factory has really good QC, as many have seen from the M4-A).
Shipping should take 3 days because we have to separate them via DHL/FEDEX/USPS based on orders/region.
Realistically? Probably Mid April with delay. But as I've said before, the manufacturers for this are really good with the timelines that they give us.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:10:12
Edit:
Because two people emailed me regarding this.
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:15:19
I probably just missed it in the thread but I thought the $210 price included the PCB. Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally select an extra PCB when filling out the form. If it's correct I'll pay the invoice right away!
The PCB was not included in the base price of the case, those prices were independent of one another.
$210 w/ Nylon Base
$230 w/ Alu Base
$40 PCB
Gotcha :thumb: Paid!
Post by: doooostin on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:19:50
Emailed you about my order, I had made a mistake in the form (and would like to change colors if possible!)
*edit that was quick nvm
PAID!
Can't wait!!
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:37:56
Post by: Perfex on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:38:39
I imagine after tonight you deserve a drink :thumb:
Post by: Potatoes on Fri, 13 January 2017, 02:36:25
Post by: Feivis on Fri, 13 January 2017, 02:46:38
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 02:47:51
Great. Now I'm starting to wonder if I had a typo on my email.
check your PM for your PP email. I have it.
My invoice shows the base and an additional base - did I make an error or is this correct? Can't really remember the form anymore :-/
If you have an error, or think there is an error.
Email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
Trying to steam roll this and make live changes as people get them.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 13 January 2017, 03:01:43
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 03:48:46
Thanks, sent
Sorted out <3. Looks like someone got too excited about champagne and wanted two champagne base alu sets :)
Post by: Crossfire on Fri, 13 January 2017, 04:16:47
Sorted out <3. Looks like someone got too excited about champagne and wanted two champagne base alu sets :)That happens when products like M65-A go viral. :)
Choo choo, all aboard!
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 13 January 2017, 04:26:33
:cool: Well, more is always betterThanks, sent
Sorted out <3. Looks like someone got too excited about champagne and wanted two champagne base alu sets :)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 05:45:58
Invoicing is complete.If you didn't get an invoice, please email -> jchan@keyclack.com with your username that you input into the form, and your PP email.
If you need any clarification for anything that you are to receive please let me know.
All kits will come with (by default)
1. Screws required.
2. Cherry Stabilizers
3. Brass Weight
4. Rubber Feet that matches your Top Piece
5. Plate (ALU6061 or Brass Upgrade)
6. Main Rigid Frame
7. Base (ALU6061 or Nylon)
8. PCB
Below are some examples of what you should have gotten in the invoice. It also includes shipping prices, and the terms and conditions denotes your shipping method (USPS, DHL, or FEDEX).
1. Space Grey w/ Nylon Base
2. PCB
1. Space Grey w/ Alu Base
2. Base - Silver Aluminum
3. PCB
1. Space Grey w/ Alu Base
2. Base - Silver Aluminum
3. Brass Plate Upgrade
4. PCB
5. Mousepad
1. Space Grey w/ Nylon Base
2. Additional Base - Silver
3. Brass Plate Upgrade
4. PCB
5. Mousepad
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 06:37:57
Ended up more expensive than I hoped, but I know that it'll end up being worth it.
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:02:38
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:05:13
Aaaand paid :thumb:
Ended up more expensive than I hoped, but I know that it'll end up being worth it.
It starts out affordable, but as you add extras, it can get pricey. Extra base, brass plate, mousepad.
I did my best with shipping. Pulled all the live quotes manually for every order and charged the most affordable one unless someone noted they wanted DHL. This was done manually for everyone based on their specific weight and order. It was definitely a pain.
Cheers and thanks for joining!
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:15:09
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Post by: PriusProblems on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:19:09
Once all the invoices are paid, can we get numbers of the amount of people in this group buy, just out of interests sake? I was thinking that it would be a lot, but the kit ended up quite a bit more expensive than I originally assumed.
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:19:35
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Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:19:52
Thanks for all your work on this Jchan. When it come time for these to ship will we be able to update our addresses? I will be moving before it ships but I don't have my new address yet.
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Mid April is our projection.
You can update whenever you move by emailing me your order number, current address, and new address at any time.
Time for sleep... It's 5am.
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:49:14
Thanks for all your work on this Jchan. When it come time for these to ship will we be able to update our addresses? I will be moving before it ships but I don't have my new address yet.
Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
Mid April is our projection.
You can update whenever you move by emailing me your order number, current address, and new address at any time.
Time for sleep... It's 5am.
Thanks for the work you have put into this, JChan :thumb:
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 January 2017, 08:26:12
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 13 January 2017, 09:54:39
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 13 January 2017, 10:38:20
Aaaand paid :thumb:
Ended up more expensive than I hoped, but I know that it'll end up being worth it.
It starts out affordable, but as you add extras, it can get pricey. Extra base, brass plate, mousepad.
I did my best with shipping. Pulled all the live quotes manually for every order and charged the most affordable one unless someone noted they wanted DHL. This was done manually for everyone based on their specific weight and order. It was definitely a pain.
Cheers and thanks for joining!
REALLY appreciate the effort made for the shipping :-*
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 13 January 2017, 10:44:06
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 13 January 2017, 11:01:45
Q: Can we get the case side-screw dimensions to source our own colour variants?
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 11:30:03
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 13 January 2017, 11:44:44
Hex screws like these (http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00GMTEPhSIHwqk/Hex-Cap-Socket-Screw.jpg) will look baller I think. Might just do black ones to go with the Hydro.
Indeed, I'd like to get some brass ones!
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 13 January 2017, 14:25:05
Mea culpa
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 14:46:32
Post by: childofthehorn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:06:45
I got a paypal invoice for $276 when I selected only the stuff for the $210 options and $25 CONUS shipping so with paypal fees I guess ~$240 right?
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:08:34
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:09:49
Hey for anyone else who selected all of the "standard' lower priced options, what did your kit total out to?
I got a paypal invoice for $276 when I selected only the stuff for the $210 options and $25 CONUS shipping so with paypal fees I guess ~$240 right?
+$40 for the PCB.
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:14:31
Hey for anyone else who selected all of the "standard' lower priced options, what did your kit total out to?
I got a paypal invoice for $276 when I selected only the stuff for the $210 options and $25 CONUS shipping so with paypal fees I guess ~$240 right?
See this:
I probably just missed it in the thread but I thought the $210 price included the PCB. Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally select an extra PCB when filling out the form. If it's correct I'll pay the invoice right away!
The PCB was not included in the base price of the case, those prices were independent of one another.
$210 w/ Nylon Base
$230 w/ Alu Base
$40 PCB
$210 and $230 are prices of the case kit with aluminum plate. +$40 for PCB, $35 to change aluminum plate to brass, as per the OP.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:42:25
As I've said, the shipping is the lowest we can get it for manually calculated for everyone's specific order weight, and destination.
If you are in cali, you got way cheaper shipping, at 15 usd from usps, but then you were subjected to sales tax (state law thing).
While in other places like Utah or Arizona, you got shipping at 15 usd and no sales tax. It's all processed and we spent a good chunk of the time in the process.
Ill be checking emails soon regarding any changes and they'll happen later tonight (it's like 2pm pst).
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:45:22
What photoelectric said is accurate.Houston Texas here and with standard nylon plus pcb plus mouse pad it was 30 shipping. Didn't seem too bad to me. Thanks Jchan
As I've said, the shipping is the lowest we can get it for manually calculated for everyone's specific order weight, and destination.
If you are in cali, you got way cheaper shipping, at 15 usd from usps, but then you were subjected to sales tax (state law thing).
While in other places like Utah or Arizona, you got shipping at 15 usd and no sales tax. It's all processed and we spent a good chunk of the time in the process.
Ill be checking emails soon regarding any changes and they'll happen later tonight (it's like 2pm pst).
Post by: Potatoes on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:23:30
Also, paid.
Post by: _cramil on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:26:28
Hey for anyone else who selected all of the "standard' lower priced options, what did your kit total out to?
I got a paypal invoice for $276 when I selected only the stuff for the $210 options and $25 CONUS shipping so with paypal fees I guess ~$240 right?
See this:I probably just missed it in the thread but I thought the $210 price included the PCB. Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally select an extra PCB when filling out the form. If it's correct I'll pay the invoice right away!
The PCB was not included in the base price of the case, those prices were independent of one another.
$210 w/ Nylon Base
$230 w/ Alu Base
$40 PCB
$210 and $230 are prices of the case kit with aluminum plate. +$40 for PCB, $35 to change aluminum plate to brass, as per the OP.
Yea I kinda did the same double-take because for some reason I was also thinking the PCB was part of the "kit" price. Se la vie at this point and I see where I missed that detail. Still stoked for this awesome keyboard!! However, much as I want to jump in and pay my invoice right away I am inclined to wait for my 1965 refund to process or the 17th deadline.
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:21:15
Post by: childofthehorn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:29:36
Thanks guys! I'm still in just was wondering!!!!Hey for anyone else who selected all of the "standard' lower priced options, what did your kit total out to?
I got a paypal invoice for $276 when I selected only the stuff for the $210 options and $25 CONUS shipping so with paypal fees I guess ~$240 right?
See this:I probably just missed it in the thread but I thought the $210 price included the PCB. Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally select an extra PCB when filling out the form. If it's correct I'll pay the invoice right away!
The PCB was not included in the base price of the case, those prices were independent of one another.
$210 w/ Nylon Base
$230 w/ Alu Base
$40 PCB
$210 and $230 are prices of the case kit with aluminum plate. +$40 for PCB, $35 to change aluminum plate to brass, as per the OP.
Yea I kinda did the same double-take because for some reason I was also thinking the PCB was part of the "kit" price. Se la vie at this point and I see where I missed that detail. Still stoked for this awesome keyboard!! However, much as I want to jump in and pay my invoice right away I am inclined to wait for my 1965 refund to process or the 17th deadline.
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Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:31:50
I've agonized over it, and just decided to pay the invoice. Blue top and bottom is incoming. If it doesn't work out, maybe someone would be willing to trade bottom pieces.
I might be if you decide you want rose gold bottom :D Had that in mind for a while, but not 100% sure.
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:35:57
I've agonized over it, and just decided to pay the invoice. Blue top and bottom is incoming. If it doesn't work out, maybe someone would be willing to trade bottom pieces.I feel ya I got black on black (yea that's ****in ross). I gotta feeling there will be lots of trading.
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:36:07
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 18:35:15
I just went through all the support emails for this.
If you have anything else, please email me -> jchan@keyclack.com
I'll try to respond asap.
Post by: LadyGrey_MN on Fri, 13 January 2017, 21:04:02
Post by: _cramil on Fri, 13 January 2017, 22:05:51
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 14 January 2017, 00:59:45
Just wanted to put in a shout out to jchan!! Even with a ton going on with this M65 GB happening, Hydro shipping, SA1965 wrapping up etc, etc, etc he has still been super responsive with communication and that is what really matters to keep people happy! Thanks again jchan for taking on some great stuff that supports this community!!Yesssss big shout out to him!!
Post by: tanker666 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 01:48:20
I plan to source different colored ones if there are any somewhere.
Post by: Perfex on Sat, 14 January 2017, 02:17:20
What is the size and type of the side screws?
I plan to source different colored ones if there are any somewhere.
I believe M3x8MM
Post by: Fullcream on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:04:33
I would have liked the black version more but space gray will match a broader range of my keysets.
wishing you all the best. :-* mwah
Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:11:02
probably will grab some mod-h switches n wait for a nice key set to release too.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:22:24
Hope to get everyone processed soon. I'm already talking to the manufacturer about bulk production and working internal logistics. So far, working off of the Google doc has been way better to organize this buy, but we'll build for the future in our next crazy purchase.
If you think about it, there were an insane number of skus possible.
6 top colors, 7 base choices, 2 plate material choices, optional 6 base addons, and optional Mousepads.
Get hyped. Working hard towards our mid April delivery. Will keep everyone updated as we work towards that.
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Thanks for supporting the M65, and this collaboration between Rama and I. We've been working at this since September and it's been a long time coming.
Time to go to sleep now... It's 2am and I slept at 5am last night. Have a good day wherever you are in the world ;)
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:27:31
Glad everyone is hyped. It's been a long week.
Hope to get everyone processed soon. I'm already talking to the manufacturer about bulk production and working internal logistics. So far, working off of the Google doc has been way better to organize this buy, but we'll build for the future in our next crazy purchase.
If you think about it, there were an insane number of skus possible.
6 top colors, 7 base choices, 2 plate material choices, optional 6 base addons, and optional Mousepads.
Get hyped. Working hard towards our mid April delivery. Will keep everyone updated as we work towards that.
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Thanks for supporting the M65, and this collaboration between Rama and I. We've been working at this since September and it's been a long time coming.
Time to go to sleep now... It's 2am and I slept at 5am last night. Have a good day wherever you are in the world ;)
You have so much hype I think you forgot what sleep is!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:54:53
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Congratulations on finally moving out of that tiny room, it was already small when I visited, but now after this business has grown so much I can't even imagine how cramped it is now.
Post by: testplsignore on Sat, 14 January 2017, 05:59:10
Would it be better or worse than aluminium?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 06:49:13
Has anyone considered stainless steel as an alternative for the plate?
Would it be better or worse than aluminium?
Would be preference, I like stainless steel, but jchan made a poll asking how many people are interested in which plate materials and it seems like there weren't enough people interested in stainless steel for it to make it.
Post by: Hydra04 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 06:54:12
Glad everyone is hyped. It's been a long week.
Hope to get everyone processed soon. I'm already talking to the manufacturer about bulk production and working internal logistics. So far, working off of the Google doc has been way better to organize this buy, but we'll build for the future in our next crazy purchase.
If you think about it, there were an insane number of skus possible.
6 top colors, 7 base choices, 2 plate material choices, optional 6 base addons, and optional Mousepads.
Get hyped. Working hard towards our mid April delivery. Will keep everyone updated as we work towards that.
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Thanks for supporting the M65, and this collaboration between Rama and I. We've been working at this since September and it's been a long time coming.
Time to go to sleep now... It's 2am and I slept at 5am last night. Have a good day wherever you are in the world ;)
Congratulations! Now I'm looking forward to hear something about the sandwich case :thumb:
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 14 January 2017, 07:12:13
Has anyone considered stainless steel as an alternative for the plate?
Would it be better or worse than aluminium?
It would be different, not better or worse. It would be very similar to brass. A tad lighter than brass but similar stiffness. Stiffer and heavier than aluminum, which is good if that's what you're looking for. Some give in a plate can also be nice (see: acrylic and polycarb plates).
Post by: kmba on Sat, 14 January 2017, 10:32:14
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Sat, 14 January 2017, 16:00:11
So if this is pretty much the board I'm getting, the only purchases I NEED are...
- ~70 Switches (Possibly going with Mod-M switches)
- Keycaps (GMK Hydro already coming. )
- USB Cable (custom Hydro cable also incoming)
- LEDs (2-pin single-colored ones, 1.8mm size preferred)
- SIP sockets (easier LED swapping)
Post by: kolashnikov on Sat, 14 January 2017, 16:59:30
So this is my first board I'm building from the ground up like this, never worked before with ps2avrGB. Luckily, I found a nice guide (http://imgur.com/a/hzd7r) by quakemz through a jchan94 post. I just wanted to put my thoughts out and see if I'm missing anything.
So if this is pretty much the board I'm getting, the only purchases I NEED are...The RGB underglow is already a soldered part of the board and the top side supports LEDs for the switches, but just simple, single-colored, 2-pin LEDs. Some OPTIONAL expenses are:
- ~70 Switches (Possibly going with Mod-M switches)
- Keycaps (GMK Hydro already coming. )
- USB Cable (custom Hydro cable also incoming)
Am I missing anything else? I've got all my tried and true soldering equipment and basic tools already at hand so I guess the only thing left to find is some dedicated time to make all this happen in April! And if anyone has recommendations for those LEDs and SIP sockets and where to buy them, I'm all ears.
- LEDs (2-pin single-colored ones, 1.8mm size preferred)
- SIP sockets (easier LED swapping)
Nice guide, I hadn't seen that before. Everything looks about right to me, but get a few extra switches just in case. I will also note that 2x3x4 square LEDs are often used in mechanical keyboards, but I have some clearance issues with those under GMK keycaps (R2 zealio switches). Since you mentioned hydro it might be safest to go for 1.8mm.
Have fun with your first build!
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Sat, 14 January 2017, 17:19:16
So this is my first board I'm building from the ground up like this, never worked before with ps2avrGB. Luckily, I found a nice guide (http://imgur.com/a/hzd7r (http://imgur.com/a/hzd7r)) by quakemz through a jchan94 post. I just wanted to put my thoughts out and see if I'm missing anything.
So if this is pretty much the board I'm getting, the only purchases I NEED are...The RGB underglow is already a soldered part of the board and the top side supports LEDs for the switches, but just simple, single-colored, 2-pin LEDs. Some OPTIONAL expenses are:
- ~70 Switches (Possibly going with Mod-M switches)
- Keycaps (GMK Hydro already coming. )
- USB Cable (custom Hydro cable also incoming)
Am I missing anything else? I've got all my tried and true soldering equipment and basic tools already at hand so I guess the only thing left to find is some dedicated time to make all this happen in April! And if anyone has recommendations for those LEDs and SIP sockets and where to buy them, I'm all ears.
- LEDs (2-pin single-colored ones, 1.8mm size preferred)
- SIP sockets (easier LED swapping)
Nice guide, I hadn't seen that before. Everything looks about right to me, but get a few extra switches just in case. I will also note that 2x3x4 square LEDs are often used in mechanical keyboards, but I have some clearance issues with those under GMK keycaps (R2 zealio switches). Since you mentioned hydro it might be safest to go for 1.8mm.
Have fun with your first build!
Yeah, that guide is fantastic! And in a numpad I built a few months ago, I didn't use SIP sockets and instead just put the 2x3x4 square LEDs inside the switch and it was a perfect fit. I understand though, the only reason I put them in there in the first place was a clearance issue. 1.8mm with SIP sockets it is then, thanks for your input! :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 19:33:15
We're estimated to get the new Brass switchplate samples sometime next week. They are already made (cutout and what not), and just need to be polished/brushed.
I'll take a few photos of them when they arrive and then i'll stress test them by putting them outside my office for a day or two (it's been raining in LA recently).
I'm sure the humidity and such will cause some reaction. In any case, we'll go with the better of the two options.
edit:
And I got a few questions about this already but we'll also have a few extra plates (in brass and multiple colors) available after everyones shipment has gone out.
This way, you can get extra plates + PCBs and change the layout very easily.
I'll be having the brass plate + PCB made by quakemz again. The layout we're going with is: ISO, Split backspace, and Split Spacebar. More TBD !
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 15 January 2017, 09:12:50
So this is my first board I'm building from the ground up like this, never worked before with ps2avrGB. Luckily, I found a nice guide (http://imgur.com/a/hzd7r (http://imgur.com/a/hzd7r)) by quakemz through a jchan94 post. I just wanted to put my thoughts out and see if I'm missing anything.
So if this is pretty much the board I'm getting, the only purchases I NEED are...The RGB underglow is already a soldered part of the board and the top side supports LEDs for the switches, but just simple, single-colored, 2-pin LEDs. Some OPTIONAL expenses are:
- ~70 Switches (Possibly going with Mod-M switches)
- Keycaps (GMK Hydro already coming. )
- USB Cable (custom Hydro cable also incoming)
Am I missing anything else? I've got all my tried and true soldering equipment and basic tools already at hand so I guess the only thing left to find is some dedicated time to make all this happen in April! And if anyone has recommendations for those LEDs and SIP sockets and where to buy them, I'm all ears.
- LEDs (2-pin single-colored ones, 1.8mm size preferred)
- SIP sockets (easier LED swapping)
Nice guide, I hadn't seen that before. Everything looks about right to me, but get a few extra switches just in case. I will also note that 2x3x4 square LEDs are often used in mechanical keyboards, but I have some clearance issues with those under GMK keycaps (R2 zealio switches). Since you mentioned hydro it might be safest to go for 1.8mm.
Have fun with your first build!
Yeah, that guide is fantastic! And in a numpad I built a few months ago, I didn't use SIP sockets and instead just put the 2x3x4 square LEDs inside the switch and it was a perfect fit. I understand though, the only reason I put them in there in the first place was a clearance issue. 1.8mm with SIP sockets it is then, thanks for your input! :thumb:
Forgot if this gb comes with them or not, but if not you need stabilizers
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Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 15 January 2017, 10:45:08
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2339046#msg2339046
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 15 January 2017, 12:54:10
Kits come with cherry stabs. See post
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2339046#msg2339046
This is correct. We'll have authentic cherry stabs, or possibly gmk screw in one's as they confirm our PO and give us the delivery schedule.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sun, 15 January 2017, 13:37:28
or possibly gmk screw in:eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sun, 15 January 2017, 13:59:03
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Sun, 15 January 2017, 14:17:51
Post by: doooostin on Mon, 16 January 2017, 19:07:47
Post by: Perfex on Mon, 16 January 2017, 19:45:21
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 20:02:27
Hey, sorry if it was already mentioned (I think it was on the form, but I can't access it anymore), does anyone know the size of the mousepad? Measuring my desk right now, hoping it'll fit haha.
900mm x 400mm x 5mm :)
Post by: dyoungc on Mon, 16 January 2017, 23:47:38
Thanks for everyones amazing patience with this.
We're estimated to get the new Brass switchplate samples sometime next week. They are already made (cutout and what not), and just need to be polished/brushed.
I'll take a few photos of them when they arrive and then i'll stress test them by putting them outside my office for a day or two (it's been raining in LA recently).
I'm sure the humidity and such will cause some reaction. In any case, we'll go with the better of the two options.
edit:
And I got a few questions about this already but we'll also have a few extra plates (in brass and multiple colors) available after everyones shipment has gone out.
This way, you can get extra plates + PCBs and change the layout very easily.
I'll be having the brass plate + PCB made by quakemz again. The layout we're going with is: ISO, Split backspace, and Split Spacebar. More TBD !
Invoice paid!
About the brass plates and PCBs, does this mean there will be two versions of the plate and PCB? (one set which supports ISO, split backspace/spacebar and one set which doesn't)
I know the standard PCB by winkeyless is part of all orders, and it seems like they don't support split spacebar. But please correct me if I'm wrong.
Post by: doooostin on Tue, 17 January 2017, 02:00:33
Hey, sorry if it was already mentioned (I think it was on the form, but I can't access it anymore), does anyone know the size of the mousepad? Measuring my desk right now, hoping it'll fit haha.
900mm x 400mm x 5mm :)
It just barely fit my desk...can't wait! :D.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 17 January 2017, 20:03:06
Thanks for everyones amazing patience with this.
We're estimated to get the new Brass switchplate samples sometime next week. They are already made (cutout and what not), and just need to be polished/brushed.
I'll take a few photos of them when they arrive and then i'll stress test them by putting them outside my office for a day or two (it's been raining in LA recently).
I'm sure the humidity and such will cause some reaction. In any case, we'll go with the better of the two options.
edit:
And I got a few questions about this already but we'll also have a few extra plates (in brass and multiple colors) available after everyones shipment has gone out.
This way, you can get extra plates + PCBs and change the layout very easily.
I'll be having the brass plate + PCB made by quakemz again. The layout we're going with is: ISO, Split backspace, and Split Spacebar. More TBD !
Invoice paid!
About the brass plates and PCBs, does this mean there will be two versions of the plate and PCB? (one set which supports ISO, split backspace/spacebar and one set which doesn't)
I know the standard PCB by winkeyless is part of all orders, and it seems like they don't support split spacebar. But please correct me if I'm wrong.
One Plate, One PCB.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 17 January 2017, 20:35:55
(http://i.imgur.com/u1F8omG.jpg)
Post by: skcheng on Tue, 17 January 2017, 20:41:33
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 17 January 2017, 21:01:37
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 17 January 2017, 21:03:40
Those polished brass plates look godly. Are those the one's we're getting? (the people who ordered brass)
We're only settling for the best and nothing but the best :thumb:
Post by: itskuroi on Tue, 17 January 2017, 21:24:53
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 17 January 2017, 21:31:12
Welp now I wish I ordered a brass plate...
:mad: Me. Toooooo
Post by: consolelog on Tue, 17 January 2017, 22:14:01
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Post by: Aperture_Sci on Tue, 17 January 2017, 23:53:51
My order shows I chose a champagne case and champange extra bottom. I wanted silver. Can you please help me and change this. My paypal transaction # was 7PS287361G9248539
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 00:25:44
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Wed, 18 January 2017, 02:25:04
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 18 January 2017, 06:09:02
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 18 January 2017, 10:56:30
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 18 January 2017, 13:04:14
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Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Wed, 18 January 2017, 13:41:56
:(
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 18 January 2017, 15:00:34
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 January 2017, 16:54:51
Any more room on that brass plate Regret Express train? Man, mark me up as another one with regrets for not opting for one, I'd definitely get one now if I could after seeing it!
:(
Chooo choo! I'll just keep telling myself that I won't really see the plate anyway.
Post by: aggroxcraig on Wed, 18 January 2017, 21:01:26
Choo Choo!
Post by: zaerst on Wed, 18 January 2017, 21:49:48
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 21:53:05
Dang, thought you said the brass plate was too thin to be polished... :(
I asked em to do it anyways, and I'll check it.
In any case, if you're looking for an upgrade.....
Please email me immediately.
jchan@keyclack.com
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 23:02:43
Since the mounting of the plate is at the top of the bezel. I imagine that it can "bend/give in" a little if you are having a bad day in front of the screen :))
[attachimg=1]
I know but it happens :D
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 18 January 2017, 23:08:16
Post by: pon10 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 00:00:00
Don't worry, there won't be any "give". When you combine a pcb with metal plate all bolted to a solid aluminum top like this, it will be a very solid keyboard with no noticeable flex. My LZ-GH is like that and is very very solid.
Cool, thanks!
Post by: CamRank1 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 01:15:55
How about those who signed up for the brass plate express?
Choo Choo!
Choo Choo! All Aboard!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 03:38:21
If you haven't paid your invoice, it will be cancelled tomorrow (January 20th, 6PM PST). I've sent reminders via Paypal already, but looks like many are opting out :P.
Oh well ~ :).
edit1:
Also! I'll have the BRASS plate at the FREMONT meetup! QuakeMZ will take it off my hands and will help me build it with MX whites and such. So hype.
Post by: Crossfire on Thu, 19 January 2017, 04:09:36
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 04:20:57
Can you share how many orders were successfully processed atm? I'd say twice the limited number at the start ;)
Currently we're at 340/480 :P. Looks like many will miss out
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 19 January 2017, 04:53:59
Can you share how many orders were successfully processed atm? I'd say twice the limited number at the start ;)
Currently we're at 340/480 :P. Looks like many will miss out
(http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/57822c19e1ad1.png)
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 19 January 2017, 04:58:47
Hi everyone,
If you haven't paid your invoice, it will be cancelled tomorrow (January 20th, 6PM PST). I've sent reminders via Paypal already, but looks like many are opting out :P.
Oh well ~ :).
edit1:
Also! I'll have the BRASS plate at the FREMONT meetup! QuakeMZ will take it off my hands and will help me build it with MX whites and such. So hype.
When will the fremont meet up be? is there a thread?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 05:04:28
Hi everyone,
If you haven't paid your invoice, it will be cancelled tomorrow (January 20th, 6PM PST). I've sent reminders via Paypal already, but looks like many are opting out :P.
Oh well ~ :).
edit1:
Also! I'll have the BRASS plate at the FREMONT meetup! QuakeMZ will take it off my hands and will help me build it with MX whites and such. So hype.
When will the fremont meet up be? is there a thread?
;)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5mbs3r/northern_california_mechanical_keyboard_meetup/
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 19 January 2017, 05:09:51
Doesn't bode well for future buys offering acrylic/polycarb/half plates :(
Post by: oli on Thu, 19 January 2017, 10:35:27
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Thu, 19 January 2017, 10:59:59
Pretty sure there will be a R2 sometime later this year (hopefully for all who missed out)
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:08:36
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:43:01
Hi everyone,
If you haven't paid your invoice, it will be cancelled tomorrow (January 20th, 6PM PST). I've sent reminders via Paypal already, but looks like many are opting out :P.
Oh well ~ :).
edit1:
Also! I'll have the BRASS plate at the FREMONT meetup! QuakeMZ will take it off my hands and will help me build it with MX whites and such. So hype.
When will the fremont meet up be? is there a thread?
;)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5mbs3r/northern_california_mechanical_keyboard_meetup/
See you there
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:55:22
Post by: Troif on Thu, 19 January 2017, 12:18:53
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 19 January 2017, 12:21:48
It's official: I've just made the greatest mistake of my life by not staying up to date with GBs. How have I missed this? While some of you appear to be on a Brass Plate Regret Train, I'm solo riding the Rama M65-A Regret Train :'-(
edit. took out misinformation.
Post by: Perfex on Thu, 19 January 2017, 12:25:14
need also the Brass plate... please open the chance to buy it RAMA!
He already stated to email him asap if you wanted the brass plate, not much more than a few posts back.
Post by: Perfex on Thu, 19 January 2017, 12:27:47
Personally I think a brass plate is more trouble than it's worth, especially with how dirty keyboard plates tend to get.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 January 2017, 13:35:02
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 19 January 2017, 14:22:35
Post by: kitchenace13 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 15:30:07
I will be happy with the upcoming Fjell that will stay with my until my dying breath
What is the Fjell? Link please :)
Post by: Arallu on Thu, 19 January 2017, 16:10:54
I will be happy with the upcoming Fjell that will stay with my until my dying breath
What is the Fjell? Link please :)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86822.0
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 January 2017, 17:28:07
What would you varnish it with? I had a thought about spray-painting it clear, but not sure if it will ruin the appearance. Cleaning around all the switches will not be an easy task if you use a cleaning solution that requires rubbing it into the brass--don't want to get any into the switches.
There's probably a million of em around, but a lacquer designed for brass. Google should help. I've researched it before, but never pulled the trigger on a brass plate so I don't have specifics right now.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 18:14:26
I think we might do something a little extra to them to make them extra smooth + shiny.
I'll have some photos of it tonight :).
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 19 January 2017, 18:42:43
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 18:46:06
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 19 January 2017, 18:48:45
Extra plating ;D
Gold plated brass to it looks like the polished brass still perhaps?
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 January 2017, 18:59:33
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 19:01:32
Oh sweet. I'll take my silver case coated in platinum too :p
We have quotes for that. It'll only cost you an arm, and half a leg ;)
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 19 January 2017, 19:31:02
Extra plating ;D
I ordered the brass plate already. Will it be extra plated?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 19:32:38
Extra plating ;D
I ordered the brass plate already. Will it be extra plated?
Patience. We'll see :)
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 19 January 2017, 22:29:11
Extra plating ;D
I ordered the brass plate already. Will it be extra plated?
Patience. We'll see :)
I will be patient!!
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 23:35:59
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 19 January 2017, 23:56:17
Welp I emailed jchan in hopes of switching to a brass plate. We shall see if it's too late.
Well you best report back if you do. There are several of us who want on the train
Post by: Crossfire on Fri, 20 January 2017, 00:30:56
jchan94, you're the man!
Post by: itskuroi on Fri, 20 January 2017, 00:39:50
Welp I emailed jchan in hopes of switching to a brass plate. We shall see if it's too late.
Well you best report back if you do. There are several of us who want on the train
Emailed him earlier today and got mine swapped. Best of luck!
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 20 January 2017, 00:56:59
Yep looking good for getting my brass plate. I just paid the difference and waiting on confirmation. Thanks jchanWelp I emailed jchan in hopes of switching to a brass plate. We shall see if it's too late.
Well you best report back if you do. There are several of us who want on the train
Emailed him earlier today and got mine swapped. Best of luck!
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 20 January 2017, 02:32:44
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 20 January 2017, 02:36:10
Who should I message to tweak my order before payment? Jchan I'm guessing?
Yupp! Jchan@keyclack.com please :). Btw! I recently got a toxic set. I think it'll go well with a matte black m65!
Post by: Crossfire on Fri, 20 January 2017, 02:44:52
I mean if anyone REALLY needs it I could transfer my order (champagne top and bottom, brass plate, total of $380) because for me it's more or less just a fun build and I don't really want to flip it later for an insane amount of money to desparate people. I will be happy with the upcoming Fjell that will stay with my until my dying breathBlasphemy, bro!
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 20 January 2017, 07:04:45
Wow I just bought a set of dcs toxic a few days ago on mm to go on my black m65. I'm not the only one who thought it would look good.Who should I message to tweak my order before payment? Jchan I'm guessing?
Yupp! Jchan@keyclack.com please :). Btw! I recently got a toxic set. I think it'll go well with a matte black m65!
Post by: ReverbSlush on Fri, 20 January 2017, 07:13:21
Post by: kmba on Fri, 20 January 2017, 10:25:05
Wow I just bought a set of dcs toxic a few days ago on mm to go on my black m65. I'm not the only one who thought it would look good.Who should I message to tweak my order before payment? Jchan I'm guessing?
Yupp! Jchan@keyclack.com please :). Btw! I recently got a toxic set. I think it'll go well with a matte black m65!
Ordered gmk terminal for my black kbd75. Same though process. I'm putting XDA milestone on my silver m65a. Keyclack special.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 20 January 2017, 16:51:05
Wow I just bought a set of dcs toxic a few days ago on mm to go on my black m65. I'm not the only one who thought it would look good.Who should I message to tweak my order before payment? Jchan I'm guessing?
Yupp! Jchan@keyclack.com please :). Btw! I recently got a toxic set. I think it'll go well with a matte black m65!
I'll wait for JTK Toxic.
Still debating over GMK Terminal or SoWaRe
Post by: kmba on Fri, 20 January 2017, 17:08:23
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 20 January 2017, 19:53:36
Post by: marian on Sat, 21 January 2017, 01:57:47
Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 21 January 2017, 11:23:48
I like the fonts on the Mito canvas XDA, but the colour doesnt really fit :/
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 21 January 2017, 11:33:16
So any jet matte black users? what keycap sets are you getting?Dcs toxic or troubled minds are the two im thinking. Kind of depends on how each profile looks on the board.
I like the fonts on the Mito canvas XDA, but the colour doesnt really fit :/
Post by: breusch91 on Sat, 21 January 2017, 11:56:23
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 21 January 2017, 12:56:09
Very excited for my order. Went with the space grey and nylon base + brass plate + extra matte black base. Currently plan on throwing my SA Carbon with orange alphas on it but if the greys clash to much I also have SA penumbra and hyperfuse incoming and will figure out a good mix and match. Also already have a pack of mod-m's waiting for this. Going to be my first build so i really can't wait to start thisI think carbon will look just fine. I have a feeling cherry profile is gonna look better on this board.
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 21 January 2017, 21:38:57
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 22 January 2017, 01:35:20
Idk if I've ever been so excited for a keyboard.I hear ya. Just gotta forget about if for a couple months.
Post by: codedisorg on Sun, 22 January 2017, 02:43:42
Post by: Auxo on Sun, 22 January 2017, 16:10:06
[attachimg=1]
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 22 January 2017, 16:19:32
Post by: Auxo on Sun, 22 January 2017, 18:25:18
Was that space gray with brass plate behind it?
Yeah, the space grey with brass plate was a spectacular combination :)
Post by: kmba on Sun, 22 January 2017, 21:36:20
Taken at the meet
(Attachment Link)
Oh man that's nice looking. The flash makes it look silver. My case is silver. Perhaps I should get wet.
Post by: Auxo on Sun, 22 January 2017, 22:12:32
Taken at the meet
(Attachment Link)
Oh man that's nice looking. The flash makes it look silver. My case is silver. Perhaps I should get wet.
There wasn't a flash used in this picture, it was just a basic photo with Instagram editing tools added (brightness up, shadows down, etc.)
Post by: eksuen on Sun, 22 January 2017, 22:54:45
(http://i.imgur.com/LZUIt3W.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HpRLRWV.jpg)
Post by: Auxo on Sun, 22 January 2017, 23:19:57
[attachimg=1]
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 23 January 2017, 00:33:03
Was hesitant about uploading this, not that great of a pic, but its something
(Attachment Link)
this is exactly what it looks like ;). This is only mirror polished, but we're adding PVD plating to this to make it smoother and more shiny.
Will tend to emails soon, as I'm visiting a few friends in NorCal from university.
BTW, glad everyone was so hyped to see it at the NorCal meetup :)
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:41:15
I got rose gold to match up with the M10-A I got. But I am having second thoughts...
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:49:20
Just found these photos of M10-a in rose gold in lowish light: http://imgur.com/a/vqBXB
from this review: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5halqo/review_massdrop_x_rama_m10a_mechanical_minipad_on/
Post by: Potatoes on Mon, 23 January 2017, 22:12:52
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 23 January 2017, 22:26:41
I've been looking for something white with gold legends. Is that not a thing? Saw something along the lines yesterday on mechmarket, but it was orange.
The closet is probably GMK Year of the Monkey, which is indeed orange on white.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 24 January 2017, 04:06:41
In order to stay more organized, I will always ask for people to email me instead of PM. Since there's no threading with GH, it gets a little complex when I have 10 pending PMs.
Also, I've cancelled invoices for those who haven't paid.
Looks like we're pushing forward soon. thanks for your patience.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 24 January 2017, 06:55:06
Looks like we're pushing forward soon. thanks for your patience.
hyyyyyyype
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 24 January 2017, 10:51:20
Was hesitant about uploading this, not that great of a pic, but its something
(Attachment Link)
Cool, gave me something to play with in photoshop :D (namely some terribad rough mock-ups of other colors: http://imgur.com/a/lsmKL)
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 24 January 2017, 11:30:50
Cool, gave me something to play with in photoshop :D (namely some terribad rough mock-ups of other colors: http://imgur.com/a/lsmKL)
Wow! thanks Photoelectric... is the champagne really that close to the brass? if so, I made the right choice!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 24 January 2017, 11:46:41
Post by: _cramil on Tue, 24 January 2017, 13:16:32
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 24 January 2017, 13:16:46
Was hesitant about uploading this, not that great of a pic, but its something
(Attachment Link)
Cool, gave me something to play with in photoshop :D (namely some terribad rough mock-ups of other colors: http://imgur.com/a/lsmKL)
Nice, glad i could be of service :)
Post by: itskuroi on Tue, 24 January 2017, 13:41:48
OR BOTH AHHH
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 25 January 2017, 13:55:40
Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
Get both, bruh.
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 25 January 2017, 14:15:44
Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
This keyboard is a lot more unique (at this time anyway). Also doesn't break the bank as much! But to really answer your question, only you would know the answer. Ask yourself what you'll be happier with on your desk in the long term, if you can't afford both.
Post by: itskuroi on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:38:59
Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
This keyboard is a lot more unique (at this time anyway). Also doesn't break the bank as much! But to really answer your question, only you would know the answer. Ask yourself what you'll be happier with on your desk in the long term, if you can't afford both.
Get both, bruh.
To me it's more so a budget I cap myself to. Every year is a 3 board maximum, last year was a 27TKL, Zeal60 and Novatouch, this year so far I was planning on a 980c, M65-A and possibly something else down the line, but I'm more comfortable with TKLs. Just a FOMO most likely.
Either way if the LZ is amazing enough, it may make me break my 3 board yearly cap! I thought about it some more and am probably going to keep my M65, can't say no to Hydro Blue...
Sorry Jchan didn't mean to go off topic!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:10:45
Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
This keyboard is a lot more unique (at this time anyway). Also doesn't break the bank as much! But to really answer your question, only you would know the answer. Ask yourself what you'll be happier with on your desk in the long term, if you can't afford both.
Get both, bruh.
To me it's more so a budget I cap myself to. Every year is a 3 board maximum, last year was a 27TKL, Zeal60 and Novatouch, this year so far I was planning on a 980c, M65-A and possibly something else down the line, but I'm more comfortable with TKLs. Just a FOMO most likely.
Either way if the LZ is amazing enough, it may make me break my 3 board yearly cap! I thought about it some more and am probably going to keep my M65, can't say no to Hydro Blue...
Sorry Jchan didn't mean to go off topic!
Haha no worries. Its good to see people having regular conversations. You're fine :).
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:21:24
Breaking your 3 board yearly cap and it's only January lol. Have they given a price on the lz? I need a tkl since I got rambae (65) and a tx75 (75) this year. Eventually I'll get a nice tkl and be set for a while.Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
This keyboard is a lot more unique (at this time anyway). Also doesn't break the bank as much! But to really answer your question, only you would know the answer. Ask yourself what you'll be happier with on your desk in the long term, if you can't afford both.
Get both, bruh.
To me it's more so a budget I cap myself to. Every year is a 3 board maximum, last year was a 27TKL, Zeal60 and Novatouch, this year so far I was planning on a 980c, M65-A and possibly something else down the line, but I'm more comfortable with TKLs. Just a FOMO most likely.
Either way if the LZ is amazing enough, it may make me break my 3 board yearly cap! I thought about it some more and am probably going to keep my M65, can't say no to Hydro Blue...
Sorry Jchan didn't mean to go off topic!
Edit: found the price
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:27:40
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:34:45
Post by: kmba on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:39:19
Post by: itskuroi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:05:08
Breaking your 3 board yearly cap and it's only January lol. Have they given a price on the lz? I need a tkl since I got rambae (65) and a tx75 (75) this year. Eventually I'll get a nice tkl and be set for a while.Such a dilemma...keep my order or transfer and go into LZ TKL...
OR BOTH AHHH
This keyboard is a lot more unique (at this time anyway). Also doesn't break the bank as much! But to really answer your question, only you would know the answer. Ask yourself what you'll be happier with on your desk in the long term, if you can't afford both.
Get both, bruh.
To me it's more so a budget I cap myself to. Every year is a 3 board maximum, last year was a 27TKL, Zeal60 and Novatouch, this year so far I was planning on a 980c, M65-A and possibly something else down the line, but I'm more comfortable with TKLs. Just a FOMO most likely.
Either way if the LZ is amazing enough, it may make me break my 3 board yearly cap! I thought about it some more and am probably going to keep my M65, can't say no to Hydro Blue...
Sorry Jchan didn't mean to go off topic!
Edit: found the price
Haha yeah, that's why I wanted 1 board to see what would pop up through the rest of the year! After seeing the LZ price though I think I'm good, just want another TKL that is something not so standard. 27TKL has issues now with it too, so I'm just going to be in a waiting game again!
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:35:51
Lz TKL is up for $447. Very expensive. E8-v1 TKL is perhaps a better choice at $310 with more color options and a more interesting layout.Gotta say, I'm very happy with my choice to go with the Ramabae. Anodizing on this board looks choice, none of the other customs have brass plates available, and it's got the powerhouse of jchan + Rama behind it for production value and logistics. Add on to that the price and it's a seriously great looking board. Can't wait to see it in person.
Post by: Coreda on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:29:37
(http://i.imgur.com/9D8iWwZ.jpg)
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:54:31
This may have been asked before, if so apologies, but are these two cases different sizes or is it just the offset being exaggerated in the photo?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9D8iWwZ.jpg)
It's just the perspective. Because the back of the near (bottom) case is raised, it appears "larger" or "longer" than the front edge of the far (top) case.
Post by: Sensorium on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:56:09
Post by: nurbs on Fri, 27 January 2017, 18:05:15
Post by: need on Fri, 27 January 2017, 18:23:33
Jchan - sorry if this has already been discussed - but has this GB ended? Or is there a R2?
It has ended and there won't be round 2 :))
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 19:10:48
Jchan - sorry if this has already been discussed - but has this GB ended? Or is there a R2?
It has ended and there won't be round 2 :))
A Round 2 wasn't denied though. It just won't happen soon.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 20:51:51
Jchan - sorry if this has already been discussed - but has this GB ended? Or is there a R2?
It has ended and there won't be round 2 :))
R2 someday. We'll have extras. Extras can't be reserved :-[
Post by: breckstar on Sat, 28 January 2017, 07:57:06
Post by: doooostin on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:41:06
Post by: Fitzpa on Sat, 28 January 2017, 14:21:54
Post by: kustom3 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 14:25:02
If I want the underglow do I need to buy led lights? Or does it come with them?
RGB LEDs for the underglow that goes into the diffuser are on the PCB that you get. You can however buy LEDs for the keycaps.
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 29 January 2017, 07:17:25
Not sure if it was asked, but is this pcb hotswappble? I.e. Compatible with hotlite sockets?
The PCB isn't hotswappable as-is, but it looks like holtite sockets might work as long as they don't fall through the holes [seems to be a problem for some PCBs]. I bet nobody has tried it yet so we can't know for sure.
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Tue, 31 January 2017, 06:57:38
Not sure if it was asked, but is this pcb hotswappble? I.e. Compatible with hotlite sockets?
The PCB isn't hotswappable as-is, but it looks like holtite sockets might work as long as they don't fall through the holes [seems to be a problem for some PCBs]. I bet nobody has tried it yet so we can't know for sure.
Looked at the DXF file of the PCB and it seems like the holes are a standard 1.5mm so holtites should work as far as i can see.
Post by: jal on Tue, 31 January 2017, 11:21:05
Post by: nurbs on Tue, 31 January 2017, 11:55:09
Jchan - sorry if this has already been discussed - but has this GB ended? Or is there a R2?
It has ended and there won't be round 2 :))
R2 someday. We'll have extras. Extras can't be reserved :-[
Let us know when the extras will be available!
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:23:10
I just searched every page for the physical dimensions of the board, and can't find any references. Anyone know the WxHxD?He uploaded the STL file for it:
(https://i.imgur.com/NaJJ1nz.png)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:25:10
I just searched every page for the physical dimensions of the board, and can't find any references. Anyone know the WxHxD?
Not sure if this is subject to change, but you can actually find dimension sketches on the offered Mat:
https://i.imgur.com/0g0yIml.png
Based on the sketch, looks like 331x130x37.2 (mm).
Post by: jal on Wed, 01 February 2017, 08:53:48
I just searched every page for the physical dimensions of the board, and can't find any references. Anyone know the WxHxD?He uploaded the STL file for it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NaJJ1nz.png)
Oh, great, thanks!
Next question, sorry; where did he upload that?
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Wed, 01 February 2017, 11:28:18
On his Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-C81Q5UTO8zaEJVeUxfc2Q1OVEI just searched every page for the physical dimensions of the board, and can't find any references. Anyone know the WxHxD?He uploaded the STL file for it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NaJJ1nz.png)
Oh, great, thanks!
Next question, sorry; where did he upload that?
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 February 2017, 12:00:10
Post by: kmba on Wed, 01 February 2017, 12:25:42
Post by: jal on Wed, 01 February 2017, 21:49:45
On his Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-C81Q5UTO8zaEJVeUxfc2Q1OVE
Oh, awesome. Thanks so much!
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:56:45
On his Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-C81Q5UTO8zaEJVeUxfc2Q1OVE (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-C81Q5UTO8zaEJVeUxfc2Q1OVE)
Oh, awesome. Thanks so much!
Here's the link with the other files: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-C81Q5UTO8zbkxiQ3VxSEl2bTQ (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-C81Q5UTO8zbkxiQ3VxSEl2bTQ)
Post by: Potatoes on Thu, 02 February 2017, 20:05:16
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 20:29:02
Cool. Anyone got the HSL (or Hex, RGB, etc) for the different colors? Used the eyedropper on ps for something close enough, but wouldn't mind an exact. Useful for keyset testing (as someone who is still deciding on which keyset to get).
this is awesome! I would love to see a render of a black case / nylon bottom with the keyboard &co keyset. I imagine the colors would look awesome
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 19:17:37
Our order will be placed soon. Our order is pretty much finalized. We will have extras so please do not fall prey to the aftermarket.
Post by: imprevade on Sat, 04 February 2017, 20:08:51
Hi everyone,
Our order will be placed soon. Our order is pretty much finalized. We will have extras so please do not fall prey to the aftermarket.
soon or soon™ ;)
Post by: blacksimon on Mon, 06 February 2017, 02:22:15
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:08:40
Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Also some good news:
1. I'm placing the order with GMK for the screw in stabs. Stabs for all!
2. The Brass Plate is now PVD plated (same as the brass weight), and has some real gold in it :eek:
Post by: FioraCorp on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:10:30
Seriously though that's amazing. Does that mean they'll resist corrosion?
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:13:05
Everyone back on the steel plate regret train chooooo chooooooooo
Seriously though that's amazing. Does that mean they'll resist corrosion?
That is correct. Just like brass handles or faucets, or like brass weights found in other customs.
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:23:56
Now regarding the GMK (http://i.imgur.com/YWmUvT1.jpg) stabilizers, have they been used or sold recently? I've mostly seen them in ICs or old GBs or being referenced in discussions, but I don't remember reading a proper feedback about them. Like would anything else than the materials change compared to Zeal's stabs who are also the screw in kind?
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:56:18
That's last second change order is looking nice now. :thumb:Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Also some good news:
1. I'm placing the order with GMK for the screw in stabs. Stabs for all!
2. The Brass Plate is now PVD plated (same as the brass weight), and has some real gold in it :eek:
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:29:30
Great news!
Now regarding the GMK (http://i.imgur.com/YWmUvT1.jpg) stabilizers, have they been used or sold recently? I've mostly seen them in ICs or old GBs or being referenced in discussions, but I don't remember reading a proper feedback about them. Like would anything else than the materials change compared to Zeal's stabs who are also the screw in kind?
I have not tried any, but there was an international group buy for them recently in Asia IIRC.
They should be the same in design, but are not pre-clipped. I'm not 100% sure about the material on Zeal's, but I believe the GMK ones should be the same ones as Cherry OEM ones :)
Post by: blacksimon on Wed, 08 February 2017, 07:48:03
Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Please do, I'm halfway across the world, so I don't want to make the mistake of picking up the wrong size
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 February 2017, 00:34:12
It is for: M65-A Space Gray + Nylon Base + PCB + Brass plate + Shipping (specific to your destination). Total is $285 + shipping to you.
edit:
first one to email me - jchan@keyclack.com
gone
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 09 February 2017, 00:36:49
Post by: dyoungc on Thu, 09 February 2017, 02:34:18
Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Please do, I'm halfway across the world, so I don't want to make the mistake of picking up the wrong size
I have some holtites but if this PCB doesn't support these standard size sockets, I'd also definitely be interested in alternative hotswaps.
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 09:46:35
Post by: kitchenace13 on Thu, 09 February 2017, 11:27:37
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 09 February 2017, 12:02:28
Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Do you know if the holes are larger diameter (like Duck Lightsaver V1 PCB I had, I think), so the hotlite pieces need to be larger?
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 10 February 2017, 00:08:45
Do we have any further info on the PCB as of yet? Looking to get ahold of some hotlites to replace switches in the future.
Do we know if all of the pcb holes are standard size or are they going to get funky on the bottom row?
They can use different ones that aren't available on digikey. I'll get some.
Do you know if the holes are larger diameter (like Duck Lightsaver V1 PCB I had, I think), so the hotlite pieces need to be larger?
There is a ic https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87127.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87127.0) where this list has been posted.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true
It says on the PS2AVRGB pcb the Holtite falls trough. But i dont know if there are any differences for the m65 pcb.
i would also want to get my hands on some for this build if it is possible :)
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sun, 12 February 2017, 05:25:38
So sad to say but RL has priority: Is anyone interested in taking my spot?
(https://i.imgur.com/kLF1qd5.png)
Need to pay some bills that popped up unexpectedly :(
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 05:28:09
So sad to say but RL has priority: Is anyone interested in taking my spot?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kLF1qd5.png)
Need to pay some bills that popped up unexpectedly :(
Email me. I'll refund you, and I'll work on getting your spot sold to someone else mate. Make sure to include the order number in the email.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sun, 12 February 2017, 05:30:21
Edit: Sent
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 05:33:07
Will do, thanks a lot!
Edit: Sent
If anyone is looking to take this spot, please email. Me jchan@keyclack.com.
Post by: jal on Sun, 12 February 2017, 08:21:10
Will do, thanks a lot!
Edit: Sent
If anyone is looking to take this spot, please email. Me jchan@keyclack.com.
That's awesome. It is not legendary service unless it is Key Clack legendary service!
Post by: Hydra04 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 08:25:55
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:18:11
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:58:53
Really sad to see this go, so please, folks. Build awesome things and post even more awesome pictures here :thumb:
Post by: nurbs on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:19:32
EDIT 2: If only the available one came in Space Gray
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:19:55
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:32:26
Hi everyone,
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
that's great news Joseph! thank you! hope everything is good on your side man.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:33:45
Hi everyone,
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
that's great news Joseph! thank you! hope everything is good on your side man.
I've seen better days, but things are good and steady for now :). thanks bro
Post by: kacase on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:48:49
Hi everyone,
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
that sounds great! i'm really looking forward to assembling this beauty.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 22:50:01
Hi everyone,Still grateful you let me switch to the brass plate jchan thanks bro. Pretty stoked about the desk mat too. Keep the good news comin!
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 14 February 2017, 07:24:10
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 14 February 2017, 07:56:46
Which color did you go with on your case? I went rose gold.Hi everyone,Still grateful you let me switch to the brass plate jchan thanks bro. Pretty stoked about the desk mat too. Keep the good news comin!
I've updated post #2, and will be logging updates there (when I remember).
But here's the summary of what has happened so far:
1. GMK Screw in stabs for all.
2. Brass Plate (not weight) is now PVD coated with hints of real gold in it.
3. Payment has been made to manufacturer.
4. Deskmat is going through a few variations and will be done soon! :)
edit:
5. Custom boxes have been designed specifically for this. They look dope AF.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 17:35:49
Great work Rama & Rama'sBae (Kate).
(http://i.imgur.com/nLQj2Sm.jpg)
Post by: Jpecina on Tue, 14 February 2017, 17:38:34
A "WORK IN PROGRESS" for the Deskmat. It's looking amazing. I can't wait to see the final version. It really reminds me of those Ikea manuals that you have to look through while constructing furniture. Now, I have this strong appreciation now for those designers since I know how many hours its taken to get to this point.
Great work Rama & Rama'sBae (Kate).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nLQj2Sm.jpg)
The design looks great! Just hope the final color of the background isn't white.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 17:40:29
A "WORK IN PROGRESS" for the Deskmat. It's looking amazing. I can't wait to see the final version. It really reminds me of those Ikea manuals that you have to look through while constructing furniture. Now, I have this strong appreciation now for those designers since I know how many hours its taken to get to this point.
Great work Rama & Rama'sBae (Kate).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nLQj2Sm.jpg)
The design looks great! Just hope the final color of the background isn't white.
Any preference? I'm thinking maybe a Gray :).
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:01:31
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:36:06
The typical Blue background with white colors wouldn't be bad, however, something cool like grey with different color images (purple, black, red) would be cool.I like the way you think and I love colorful things!
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Post by: jal on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:38:22
The typical Blue background with white colors wouldn't be bad, however, something cool like grey with different color images (purple, black, red) would be cool.I like the way you think and I love colorful things!
Oh, coloring the components vaguely correctly colored (as opposed to coloring the nine images different colors) would be really nifty.
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:51:38
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 23:12:23
A "WORK IN PROGRESS" for the Deskmat. It's looking amazing. I can't wait to see the final version. It really reminds me of those Ikea manuals that you have to look through while constructing furniture. Now, I have this strong appreciation now for those designers since I know how many hours its taken to get to this point.Ohh I likey. Nice work excited to see the final outcome.
Great work Rama & Rama'sBae (Kate).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nLQj2Sm.jpg)
Post by: itskuroi on Wed, 15 February 2017, 09:34:21
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 15 February 2017, 18:28:24
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 15 February 2017, 19:47:06
Check email when you have the time jchan ! Ty
Will do! Lots to go through. Many emails :(
This was probably answered already but the PCB is usb MINI right? not micro or C?
Mini-B.
QMK one will be Type-C when it comes around.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 21:14:36
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)
(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
Post by: _cramil on Mon, 20 February 2017, 21:26:00
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 20 February 2017, 21:40:27
MOUSEPAD DESIGN DONE.
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
NAJS
Post by: FLOCKA on Mon, 20 February 2017, 21:50:44
MOUSEPAD DESIGN DONE.
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
Love it! I'm glad this is the iteration you guys are going with
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 22:07:18
Production has begun. The plates are first. If and when photos are ready, i'll share them :).
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 20 February 2017, 22:44:32
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 22:45:11
That mousepad looks pretty bomb. Too bad I didn't order one; figured I had enough extras as it is 😀
We'll have a few extras of course, at FCFS.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 22:45:54
Another small "update".Nice thanks for the update :thumb:
Production has begun. The plates are first. If and when photos are ready, i'll share them :).
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 07:53:52
MOUSEPAD DESIGN DONE.
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
Triggering some 20 year-old Lego nostalgia with those graphics :>
If anybody wonders, the grey should be close from the center part of this picture:
(http://i.imgur.com/jfT58C3.jpg)
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 21 February 2017, 10:36:52
Post by: robbles on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:56:20
Post by: aggroxcraig on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:59:44
MOUSEPAD DESIGN DONE.
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
10/10 so happy that I got this pad.
Post by: childofthehorn on Tue, 21 February 2017, 17:18:58
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Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 21 February 2017, 18:16:24
MOUSEPAD DESIGN DONE.
The white will be grey, just like the Cherry Mousepads using this CMYK code:(10,7,8,0)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/62abfed5efa96048705848202c090387.png)
Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 21 February 2017, 18:23:05
Post by: itskuroi on Tue, 21 February 2017, 18:29:44
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
Post by: kmba on Tue, 21 February 2017, 20:44:28
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 21 February 2017, 21:28:47
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65-A in rose gold, 67g Gatestotles and 67g Linear Zealios for the "hold down" mod keys (control, alt, shift, fn, etc) and GMK 9009 (with pink accent keys). Got a M10-A in rose gold coming as well... just need to get that rose gold M6-A and three custom cables and I can fill that epic mousepad fully :thumb:
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 21 February 2017, 22:22:59
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
Space grey with 65g zealios. I'm tossing some Danger Zone keycaps on there and have a braided coiled grey and blue cable . I called it "Project Maverick".
Post by: aznreaper on Tue, 21 February 2017, 22:54:38
Probably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 22 February 2017, 04:13:34
Probably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
I would be interested in the Hydro blue without the brass plate... this seems to be a trio that will work out...
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 22 February 2017, 08:35:19
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 22 February 2017, 10:17:43
Probably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Damn! You beat me too it. I've got the same setup and I've also been hoping to snag a brass plate. I hope he lets you switch, it'll mean there's hope for me yet.
Post by: wangbwhz on Wed, 22 February 2017, 10:45:30
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 22 February 2017, 13:15:27
I got my kit withProbably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Damn! You beat me too it. I've got the same setup and I've also been hoping to snag a brass plate. I hope he lets you switch, it'll mean there's hope for me yet.
Silver top
Hydro bottom
Brass plate
PCB
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 22 February 2017, 16:09:52
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65-A in rose gold, 67g Gatestotles and 67g Linear Zealios for the "hold down" mod keys (control, alt, shift, fn, etc) and GMK 9009 (with pink accent keys). Got a M10-A in rose gold coming as well... just need to get that rose gold M6-A and three custom cables and I can fill that epic mousepad fully :thumb:
-M65-A Space Grey
-Silver base
-Brass switch plate
-67g Zealios
-Planning on GMK Nautilus or SA 1965 for caps eventually. In the meantime, I'll probably stick some Tai-Hao PBT caps on it.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 22 February 2017, 16:33:12
I got my kit withProbably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Damn! You beat me too it. I've got the same setup and I've also been hoping to snag a brass plate. I hope he lets you switch, it'll mean there's hope for me yet.
Silver top
Hydro bottom
Brass plate
PCB
Yeah, unfortunately I missed the window to order a brass plate. I understand why though, as manufacturers don't like to make continuous modifications to the order placed with them. It's just simpler to deal with. Hopefully someone decides they don't want their brass plate so I can swap with them ^_^
Post by: itskuroi on Wed, 22 February 2017, 18:13:21
Probably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Gonna see whatever makes it easier for jchan tbh
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 19:26:50
Probably going to look to transfer/refund my order, jchan's email queue is probably enormous so I'm going to help expedite this a bit! Tried my best to enjoy 68key layout, but after trying a TADA68, I just can't get used to the arrow location being so close.
Includes:
Hydro Blue
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
PCB
Total of $314.
Not sure if I can transfer a hydro blue one though. I hope so though!
I got the same thing minus the brass plate, wonder if I can swap you and snag your brass plate... Jchan plz?
Gonna see whatever makes it easier for jchan tbh
Shot you a pm
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Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 23 February 2017, 09:44:41
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 23 February 2017, 12:19:56
Now that CNY is well over and everyone is back in the grind, have you been given a proper ETA from the MFG?
Payment was made a while ago and I'm waiting for confirmation of dates. But they said 50 days basically.
Ill get back with a firm date soon.
Post by: Dominathan on Thu, 23 February 2017, 18:28:29
Now that CNY is well over and everyone is back in the grind, have you been given a proper ETA from the MFG?
Payment was made a while ago and I'm waiting for confirmation of dates. But they said 50 days basically.
Ill get back with a firm date soon.
To make all of them?! Damn, that seems fast!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 23 February 2017, 18:36:48
Now that CNY is well over and everyone is back in the grind, have you been given a proper ETA from the MFG?
Payment was made a while ago and I'm waiting for confirmation of dates. But they said 50 days basically.
Ill get back with a firm date soon.
To make all of them?! Damn, that seems fast!
Correct! And we're working on finalizing the box, etc for everything now. Hype hype hype.
Post by: itskuroi on Thu, 23 February 2017, 22:09:05
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 23 February 2017, 23:10:34
Alright! Just spoke with jchan about it and I'm going to just transfer entire order. Most PMs I received were about splitting everything up, and I'd rather not do that. So I'd like to just transfer my entire order, which consisted of:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2O2fpdB.png)
Brass plate was 38 extra, so add onto the 276 + 38 = $314!
Don't think I'm allowed to part it out though.
I'll take it if it's still available?
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 24 February 2017, 02:38:47
Alright! Just spoke with jchan about it and I'm going to just transfer entire order. Most PMs I received were about splitting everything up, and I'd rather not do that. So I'd like to just transfer my entire order, which consisted of:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2O2fpdB.png)
Brass plate was 38 extra, so add onto the 276 + 38 = $314!
Don't think I'm allowed to part it out though.
I'll take it if it's still available?
Ask the transferrer to email me a confirm of the transfer.
Then after that, email me your address and PayPal id.
Jchan@keyclack.com
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:38:28
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65 Rose gold with Old Cherry black switch and SA valentine i have or i will trade it for a gmk valentine KA2017 :p
Post by: kacase on Fri, 24 February 2017, 15:13:53
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65-A Black
Brass Plate
Invyr Panda Linear - Lubed and SIP Socketed
GMK Terminal
Green LEDs with SIP
Post by: naut on Fri, 24 February 2017, 15:47:48
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
Silver/Nylon base
Brass Switch Plate
65g Zeal switches, possibly lubed
Zeal stabs
Keycaps: Some arrangement of blanks
HYPE!
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Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 24 February 2017, 15:49:48
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65-A Black
Brass Plate
Invyr Panda Linear - Lubed and SIP Socketed
GMK Terminal
Green LEDs with SIP
I'm kind of doing something similar: Black/Brass/Nylon + GMK Laser or a black PBT keyset.
Still undecided on the linear switches I'm going to use though.
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 24 February 2017, 15:56:26
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
Mine is Matte Black with nylon base, most likely will be building it with 78g Zealios and topping it up with Amazing Chocolatier. Still subject to change of course :P
Post by: kmba on Fri, 24 February 2017, 17:12:22
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
M65-A Black
Brass Plate
Invyr Panda Linear - Lubed and SIP Socketed
GMK Terminal
Green LEDs with SIP
Not too dissimilar from my black KBD75 build.. sipped, green LEds, sitting here with black pbt blanks waiting for terminal :D
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 24 February 2017, 19:22:39
So what is everyone's plans for their setup? Switches? Caps?
I got silver/nylon base. Building green gatestotles, and tossing on XDA milestone while I hold out for gmk nautilus. Bought milestone for a 60% board that I sold so this should work well and look pretty nice.
Space Grey
Lubed and 62g spring swapped mx silents
GMK Honeywell
Matching my M4 with it as well.
Post by: _cramil on Fri, 24 February 2017, 22:34:31
Nylon Base
Brass Plate
Probably SIP sockets with orange or gold LEDs
Still deciding on switches MOD-H or Zealios 67g. Maybe linears
SA1965 Keys
WooHoo or hype or whatever you kids say these days LOL
Post by: breusch91 on Sat, 25 February 2017, 09:23:38
Nylon base + additional jet black aluminum base
Brass everything
No LEDs for now
Switches will be hotlites so I can swap but have Mod-M's for them, though if MOD-SH's drop soon I might try those
SA Carbon w/orange alphas
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Post by: imprevade on Sat, 25 February 2017, 22:36:46
Champagne Top
Champagne Base
Brass Plate
Gateron Greens
Zeal Transparent Gold-Plated PCB Screw-in Stabilizers
Amazing Chocolatier
Post by: breckstar on Sun, 26 February 2017, 09:18:21
Nylon Base
Not Brass Plate :cool:
78g Zeals or 98g Gateron Greens
Probably Zeal65 PCB whenever it comes out
SA Hyperfuse
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 26 February 2017, 09:38:02
Silver top+nylon bottom
Brass plate
Gold stab wires on Cherry stabs
72g gold springs vintage Blacks + GPL 104 + polycarb switch film
OG Cherry dyesubs + purple ano OTD Esc
Jumbo coiled cable from MechCables (http://m.imgur.com/sFzb6HM?r)
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:59:31
QMK one will be Type-C when it comes around.
I just noticed that QMK apparently has support for ps2avrgb already. Is there any reason that won't work with this PCB?
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB)
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 02:36:33
(https://i.gyazo.com/3bd5e06dd5d1a328a3cb87734f1432de.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/86a6c6c1ac0d39ca6cb5f41d21f8f8e7.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/a6f8daf97bf956578fe6dcea20f7ccb3.jpg)
Post by: Fullcream on Mon, 27 February 2017, 03:42:53
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 27 February 2017, 04:35:08
I'm doing one for my kid;
Rose Gold case
Nylon base
Brass Plate
65g zealios
Holtite sockets
Soft pink LEDs
DSA Hana
Hana Colonel artisan
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Post by: audax989 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 05:55:04
Sweeeeeeet! Can't wait :D
I'm doing one for my kid;
Rose Gold case
Nylon base
Brass Plate
65g zealios
Holtite sockets
Soft pink LEDs
DSA Hana
Hana Colonel artisan
Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current
Where'd you get your holtites man?
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:01:46
I'm actually getting some from Zeal Pcs and some from a GB I can't find anymlre :DSweeeeeeet! Can't wait :D
I'm doing one for my kid;
Rose Gold case
Nylon base
Brass Plate
65g zealios
Holtite sockets
Soft pink LEDs
DSA Hana
Hana Colonel artisan
Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current
Where'd you get your holtites man?
It was on geekhack and it's closed now.
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Post by: leoparder on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:03:46
A few progress photos! Just wanted to let everyone know that they're producing. These are unpolished/finalized, but I want you to see the progress / process. Enjoy! :DShow Image(https://i.gyazo.com/3bd5e06dd5d1a328a3cb87734f1432de.jpg)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/86a6c6c1ac0d39ca6cb5f41d21f8f8e7.png)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/a6f8daf97bf956578fe6dcea20f7ccb3.jpg)
They look great ! Thanks for sharing.
Shiny shiny, almost worth a special industrial "unfinished" edition.
:)
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:38:25
A few progress photos! Just wanted to let everyone know that they're producing. These are unpolished/finalized, but I want you to see the progress / process. Enjoy! :DShow Image(https://i.gyazo.com/3bd5e06dd5d1a328a3cb87734f1432de.jpg)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/86a6c6c1ac0d39ca6cb5f41d21f8f8e7.png)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/a6f8daf97bf956578fe6dcea20f7ccb3.jpg)
Looks absolutely awesome, sir! Very excited.
Post by: _cramil on Mon, 27 February 2017, 20:34:00
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 20:45:07
Will the long leg SIP sockets currently on KeyClack work on this board?
of course! :D
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:25:12
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:28:45
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
For the noobs among us, what are ps2avrgb, QMK, and atmega32u4? I'm not really sure what I would be upgrading to.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:30:00
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
You previously mentionned the QMK one would have USB C. Will this be mini USB or USB C?
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:31:42
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
For the noobs among us, what are ps2avrgb, QMK, and atmega32u4? I'm not really sure what I would be upgrading to.
TLDR:
ps2avrgb uses a GUI to do everything. It's more difficult to make macros, but easier to program basic layouts and underglow.
QMK is more complex and allows for special functions to be programmed, and is way more flexible (granted, YMMV based on your own knowledge, and google skills, etc). We'll have a basic GUI for this though.
ALSO, it uses MINI-B. We also have a Type-C one that is still in development, but ya know... things take time :D
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:33:29
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
For the noobs among us, what are ps2avrgb, QMK, and atmega32u4? I'm not really sure what I would be upgrading to.
Benefits:
ps2avrgb uses a GUI to do everything. It's more difficult to make macros and such.
QMK is more complex and allows for special functions to be programmed, and is way more flexible (granted, YMMV based on your own knowledge, and google skills, etc).
ALSO, it uses MINI-B. We also have a Type-C one that is still in development, but ya know... things take time :D
Good! I already ordered a coiled cable and wanted to make sure I didn't have to get it redone.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:45:54
The invoice number you were asking for was something like M65-A-(number), right?
Post by: kmba on Tue, 28 February 2017, 07:50:36
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:06:36
[...]
The invoice number you were asking for was something like M65-A-(number), right?
That should be it yeah. Or we're both wrong :x
Post by: wodan on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:07:22
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:23:26
I recommend before upgrading take a close look at the BootMapperClient and consider of there's anything you want that can't be done in there. It's such a neat mapping & programming GUI ... QMK isn't better because it is more expensive of has more potential. You'll have a much harder time performing the same things you can do with the ps2avrgb board, it's really only worth it if you actually use the additional potential.
It's also worth it if you had problems with input delay with ps2avrGB in the past and care about that, but never had any problems with TMK or QMK like it's the case for me.
I totally agree with the statement that BootMapperClient has a nice GUI that works well and that it will do 90% of the stuff QMK does keymapping wise, the lack of visualisation of the keymap in QMK is pretty unintuitive.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:26:07
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:26:29
I tried playing with QMK for my Planck but still can't figure it out. I'll look into it deeper sometime in the future but for now I'm going to stick with the Winkeyless firmware for this board.I recommend before upgrading take a close look at the BootMapperClient and consider of there's anything you want that can't be done in there. It's such a neat mapping & programming GUI ... QMK isn't better because it is more expensive of has more potential. You'll have a much harder time performing the same things you can do with the ps2avrgb board, it's really only worth it if you actually use the additional potential.
It's also worth it if you had problems with input delay with ps2avrGB in the past and care about that, but never had any problems with TMK or QMK like it's the case for me.
I totally agree with the statement that BootMapperClient has a nice GUI that works well and that it will do 90% of the stuff QMK does keymapping wise, the lack of visualisation of the keymap in QMK is pretty unintuitive.
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Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:32:54
If any of you have trouble with QMK I'd be happy to build up a library of firmwares to share :thumb:
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:36:25
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Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:52:00
I took it because I already have ps2 based boards with input lag and I want something different to tinker with.
I have never built my own board and am pretty knew to this. Could you elaborate on the "input lag" ? Are you talking while mapping the layout of the pcb or do you mean actual lag from key click (say typing the word "there") to having it produce those letters on your screen?
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Post by: wodan on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:04:37
I have never built my own board and am pretty knew to this. Could you elaborate on the "input lag" ? Are you talking while mapping the layout of the pcb or do you mean actual lag from key click (say typing the word "there") to having it produce those letters on your screen?
I am typing on a ps2avr based keyboard right now and this input lag is something people playing reaction games like ... I dunno ... Tetris? ... are experiencing. It's close to immeasurable and you wouldn't realize it unless you played cetain reaction-based games
Post by: kmba on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:07:23
I took it because I already have ps2 based boards with input lag and I want something different to tinker with.
I have never built my own board and am pretty knew to this. Could you elaborate on the "input lag" ? Are you talking while mapping the layout of the pcb or do you mean actual lag from key click (say typing the word "there") to having it produce those letters on your screen?
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Very small input lag between key press and registering with the OS using ps2avr, however I've only used it with an atmega32a, not the u4, so it very well may be a symptom of the chip, not the firmware. Others have reported it with the 32a as well. Keep in mind it's very small amount of lag, and won't be noticeable whatsoever during typing or 99% of gaming. Only with crazy fast timing based rythm games. Unless you're grandmaster rhythm champion I wouldn't think twice or worry about the lag.
Post by: Arallu on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:19:31
Post by: r4wromg on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:56:50
TLDR:
ps2avrgb uses a GUI to do everything. It's more difficult to make macros, but easier to program basic layouts and underglow.
QMK is more complex and allows for special functions to be programmed, and is way more flexible (granted, YMMV based on your own knowledge, and google skills, etc). We'll have a basic GUI for this though.
ALSO, it uses MINI-B. We also have a Type-C one that is still in development, but ya know... things take time :D
What's the timeline for the Type-C QMK PCB? Will it be offered as another upgrade before the M-65 ships or will we have to purchase a whole new PCB afterwards if we want both features? I want QMK, but having Type-C would be nice also
Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:01:08
Post by: codedisorg on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:04:11
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:20:47
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:31:36
I upgraded because 18 bucks... But I honestly have no idea what this means. And that's after reading the above posts.From what I gather the upgrade can be cool if you are good at firmware and stuff. The original has a user friendly Gui and is more noobtato friendly
*noob not noobtato... wtf auto correct
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Post by: CMYK on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:35:15
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:38:37
I upgraded because 18 bucks... But I honestly have no idea what this means. And that's after reading the above posts.From what I gather the upgrade can be cool if you are good at firmware and stuff. The original has a user friendly Gui and is more noobtato friendly
*noob not noobtato... wtf auto correct
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noobtato
/noob tay toe/
noun
a word used to describe the offspring of a noob and a potato
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:39:52
Email was sent 5:31am my time, and I submitted my form 3hours later. I filled out my form three hours later, so I hope I got in the upgrade. Instead of an upgrade, I kind of want one Ps2 pcb, and one qmk pcb.This would be ideal!
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Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:41:16
It all makes sense now. You are very wiseI upgraded because 18 bucks... But I honestly have no idea what this means. And that's after reading the above posts.From what I gather the upgrade can be cool if you are good at firmware and stuff. The original has a user friendly Gui and is more noobtato friendly
*noob not noobtato... wtf auto correct
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noobtato
/noob tay toe/
noun
a word used to describe the offspring of a noob and a potato
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Post by: Kavik on Tue, 28 February 2017, 12:18:39
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
For the noobs among us, what are ps2avrgb, QMK, and atmega32u4? I'm not really sure what I would be upgrading to.
TLDR:
ps2avrgb uses a GUI to do everything. It's more difficult to make macros, but easier to program basic layouts and underglow.
QMK is more complex and allows for special functions to be programmed, and is way more flexible (granted, YMMV based on your own knowledge, and google skills, etc). We'll have a basic GUI for this though.
ALSO, it uses MINI-B. We also have a Type-C one that is still in development, but ya know... things take time :D
Cool, thanks for the explanation. I think I'll stick with the basic PCB to keep things simple.
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:07:30
Speaking of Type C, will the M-65's case be able to accommodate the larger type-C port? Looks like there's not a whole lot of wiggle room right now even for the Mini USB port. I'm hoping I won't need to buy an updated case just to move to USB type-C.
Thanks!
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:10:58
Personally gonna wait for the Type C + QMK revision, but this is an awesome upgrade option!Type C? What's that?
Speaking of Type C, will the M-65's case be able to accommodate the larger type-C port? Looks like there's not a whole lot of wiggle room right now even for the Mini USB port. I'm hoping I won't need to buy an updated case just to move to USB type-C.
Thanks!
*Edit sorry I didn't read all of it before I asked.
USB C is a bad idea for a keyboard I think. No cable compatibility and no reason for it.
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Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:12:18
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-CPersonally gonna wait for the Type C + QMK revision, but this is an awesome upgrade option!Type C? What's that?
Speaking of Type C, will the M-65's case be able to accommodate the larger type-C port? Looks like there's not a whole lot of wiggle room right now even for the Mini USB port. I'm hoping I won't need to buy an updated case just to move to USB type-C.
Thanks!
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Post by: imprevade on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:35:06
Personally gonna wait for the Type C + QMK revision, but this is an awesome upgrade option!Type C? What's that?
Speaking of Type C, will the M-65's case be able to accommodate the larger type-C port? Looks like there's not a whole lot of wiggle room right now even for the Mini USB port. I'm hoping I won't need to buy an updated case just to move to USB type-C.
Thanks!
*Edit sorry I didn't read all of it before I asked.
USB C is a bad idea for a keyboard I think. No cable compatibility and no reason for it.
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There's no "cable compatibility" because there aren't many boards that have it yet. In the very near future, many of the custom keyboards and PCBs coming out will have USB-C, and you're going to see a lot more people selling custom USB-C cables. With most new technology, it will take time for everyone to get with it. (There's people out there still buying movies on DVD, for example.) There are huge benefits to USB-C as well. My favorite, is that you can never accidentally try and plug the cable in upside-down—it fits both ways. It's also higher speed, and can supply more power than a standard USB cable. (more RGBs bruh :eek:) Of course, both ends have to be USB-C compatible for this to happen—which means your computer needs to have USB-C (or equivalent) ports, or you have to have an externally powered USB-C hub. Lastly, the USB-C ports and connectors are much more durable than their counterparts.
Post by: kolashnikov on Tue, 28 February 2017, 16:40:02
Post by: leoparder on Tue, 28 February 2017, 16:42:16
Hold up, if QMK has been ported to ps2avrgb boards, isn't this an $18 "upgrade" to limit yourself to QMK only? The standard, cheaper PCB would have the option to use bootmapperclient or QMK. What am I missing? :confused:
Also what thought. Can someone help explain the differences between the two pcbs ?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 18:41:31
Hold up, if QMK has been ported to ps2avrgb boards, isn't this an $18 "upgrade" to limit yourself to QMK only? The standard, cheaper PCB would have the option to use bootmapperclient or QMK. What am I missing? :confused:
Also what thought. Can someone help explain the differences between the two pcbs ?
The ps2avrGB PCBs are reliant on V-USB for their USB compatibility since the atmega 32a does not support native USB.
The QMK PCB here uses an atmega32u4 which does have native USB compatibility.
I had a ps2avrGB based board with a 32a in the past and it had more input delay than my TMK/QMK/o2d ones which all use either a 32u2 or a 32u4. It is not very noticeable for normal use and not even for most of gaming use, all your mainstream games (LoL, DotA, CSGO, Overwatch, Battlefield, etc.) will work fine, it's just that there cases where this affects you a lot like in rhythm games or high-level tetris or stuff like that.
In my experience ps2avrGB with a 32a had more input delay than Leeku's L3 firmware with a 32a, which had more input delay than all the 32u2/32u4 implementations I tried. I cannot predict how efficient the code that implements V-USB into QMK is, but I still believe that even the best V-USB implementation is slower than the native USB of the 32u2/32u4. But up until now all my testing was done with just "feeling it" and the hit-error bar in osu! , so nothing really concrete yet. I also did some other test where I hit a key which played a sound which was recorded with a microphone and I the went through the recordings and wrote down the delay(to compare the difference between boards, not to measure the base delay of each board, that wouldn't work that way), but other than confirming my speculations it didn't do too much as there was still too much variance in the single measurements to get a exact number in ms, I took averages of 10 though.
Oh also I don't think that V-USB supports N-Key rollover, iirc it is not able to use USB fullspeed which is necessary for N-Key rollover.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 18:44:30
Hold up, if QMK has been ported to ps2avrgb boards, isn't this an $18 "upgrade" to limit yourself to QMK only? The standard, cheaper PCB would have the option to use bootmapperclient or QMK. What am I missing? :confused:
Also what thought. Can someone help explain the differences between the two pcbs ?
The ps2avrGB PCBs are reliant on V-USB for their USB compatibility since the atmega 32a does not support native USB.
The QMK PCB here uses an atmega32u4 which does have native USB compatibility.
I had a ps2avrGB based board with a 32a in the past and it had more input delay than my TMK/QMK/o2d ones which all use either a 32u2 or a 32u4. It is not very noticeable for normal use and not even for most of gaming use, all your mainstream games (LoL, DotA, CSGO, Overwatch, Battlefield, etc.) will work fine, it's just that there cases where this affects you a lot like in rhythm games or high-level tetris or stuff like that.
In my experience ps2avrGB with a 32a had more input delay than Leeku's L3 firmware with a 32a, which had more input delay than all the 32u2/32u4 implementations I tried. I cannot predict how efficient the code that implements V-USB into QMK is, but I still believe that even the best V-USB implementation is slower than the native USB of the 32u2/32u4. But up until now all my testing was done with just "feeling it" and the hit-error bar in osu! , so nothing really concrete yet. I also did some other test where I hit a key which played a sound which was recorded with a microphone and I the went through the recordings and wrote down the delay(to compare the difference between boards, not to measure the base delay of each board, that wouldn't work that way), but other than confirming my speculations it didn't do too much as there was still too much variance in the single measurements to get a exact number in ms, I took averages of 10 though.
Oh also I don't think that V-USB supports N-Key rollover, iirc it is not able to use USB fullspeed which is necessary for N-Key rollover.
This is all correct. I wanted to explain it, but I felt like it would have been difficult to understand if I wrote it out.
But thanks for this! :D
Very good explanation <3 thanks bro
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 February 2017, 18:52:55
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 19:00:19
Do you know what color solder mask is used for each of the two offered PCB types?
ps2avrgb - black
qmk - possibly a dark grey.
Post by: kolashnikov on Tue, 28 February 2017, 19:09:34
Hold up, if QMK has been ported to ps2avrgb boards, isn't this an $18 "upgrade" to limit yourself to QMK only? The standard, cheaper PCB would have the option to use bootmapperclient or QMK. What am I missing? :confused:
Also what thought. Can someone help explain the differences between the two pcbs ?
The ps2avrGB PCBs are reliant on V-USB for their USB compatibility since the atmega 32a does not support native USB.
The QMK PCB here uses an atmega32u4 which does have native USB compatibility.
I had a ps2avrGB based board with a 32a in the past and it had more input delay than my TMK/QMK/o2d ones which all use either a 32u2 or a 32u4. It is not very noticeable for normal use and not even for most of gaming use, all your mainstream games (LoL, DotA, CSGO, Overwatch, Battlefield, etc.) will work fine, it's just that there cases where this affects you a lot like in rhythm games or high-level tetris or stuff like that.
In my experience ps2avrGB with a 32a had more input delay than Leeku's L3 firmware with a 32a, which had more input delay than all the 32u2/32u4 implementations I tried. I cannot predict how efficient the code that implements V-USB into QMK is, but I still believe that even the best V-USB implementation is slower than the native USB of the 32u2/32u4. But up until now all my testing was done with just "feeling it" and the hit-error bar in osu! , so nothing really concrete yet. I also did some other test where I hit a key which played a sound which was recorded with a microphone and I the went through the recordings and wrote down the delay(to compare the difference between boards, not to measure the base delay of each board, that wouldn't work that way), but other than confirming my speculations it didn't do too much as there was still too much variance in the single measurements to get a exact number in ms, I took averages of 10 though.
Oh also I don't think that V-USB supports N-Key rollover, iirc it is not able to use USB fullspeed which is necessary for N-Key rollover.
This is all correct. I wanted to explain it, but I felt like it would have been difficult to understand if I wrote it out.
But thanks for this! :D
Very good explanation <3 thanks bro
Ordered. Thank you both.
Post by: phutro on Tue, 28 February 2017, 22:22:53
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 00:40:07
When will we know if we got the upgraded PCB?
you'll get an email / invoice later this week. Most likely on Thursday.
In other news, I've just got a timeline from the manufacturer.
Current timeline:
Mid April - Manufacturing is done.
End of April - Shipment arrives to me in Los Angeles
Shipment to occur after.
As far as extras go, they will all be available after the GB at FCFS on www.keyclack.com ; and only after the GB has shipped out.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 00:40:18
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 00:42:09
Ok so its only a upgrade? not a extra PCB? i was looking to fast.. the ps2avrgb is just easier to program right? cuz it uses bootmapper, wanted to try both
For the extra PCBs, we'll have them in a separate sale along with an optional layered case. It's kind of complex mixing them together imo from a logistical stand point.
Bootmapper is definitely really easy to use. QMK is a lot more difficult :P.
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 01 March 2017, 01:18:33
Ok so its only a upgrade? not a extra PCB? i was looking to fast.. the ps2avrgb is just easier to program right? cuz it uses bootmapper, wanted to try both
For the extra PCBs, we'll have them in a separate sale along with an optional layered case. It's kind of complex mixing them together imo from a logistical stand point.
Bootmapper is definitely really easy to use. QMK is a lot more difficult :P.
I'm pretty unaware of what the different programming styles are, is QMK like the redscarf? idk if you have experience with them, but that thing was a b*tch to program, esp. as a person who doesnt understand that stuff very well
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 01:22:52
Ok so its only a upgrade? not a extra PCB? i was looking to fast.. the ps2avrgb is just easier to program right? cuz it uses bootmapper, wanted to try both
For the extra PCBs, we'll have them in a separate sale along with an optional layered case. It's kind of complex mixing them together imo from a logistical stand point.
Bootmapper is definitely really easy to use. QMK is a lot more difficult :P.
Ok thanks Thanks Jchan. I have sent you an email regarding not to upgrade then :)
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:03:01
Sent from the love gun.
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:09:01
I know this is late to the party but for the normal pcb, it uses a micro usb port correct?
Sent from the love gun.
Mini, not micro.
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:36:52
Thank you I need to adjust a cable order then womp wompI know this is late to the party but for the normal pcb, it uses a micro usb port correct?
Sent from the love gun.
Mini, not micro.
Sent from the love gun.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:05:40
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:09:47
Jchan - Is there any chance I can change my contact email to be different to my paypal/invoice email? Also, I filled out the form and I didn't know what to put for the order ID so I used my PayPal transaction ID.
Hey,
Email me the whole situation, your paypal transaction ID, paypal ID, and the new email ? :D
jchan@keyclack.com
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 02 March 2017, 01:53:39
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 02 March 2017, 02:06:06
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 02 March 2017, 11:29:50
yeah i put in for the QMK upgrade as well. Not that it matters that much to me but i'd like to have the option one day if I so choose.
That's exactly how I felt. Never even imagined needing it, for now, but I'd like to know it's there.
Post by: heyitsqi on Thu, 02 March 2017, 13:35:21
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 March 2017, 16:59:31
BUT...
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! OMFBBQG, autohotkey rocks my socks. I'm really not sure I need programmable boards anymore. Plus, it's a heck of a lot of fun to write your own ahk file ;)
I don't think I'll be upgrading my PCB, but I appreciate the offer. I like that jchan is great at keeping us updated.
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 02 March 2017, 19:13:17
Jchan - Is there any chance I can change my contact email to be different to my paypal/invoice email? Also, I filled out the form and I didn't know what to put for the order ID so I used my PayPal transaction ID.
Hey,
Email me the whole situation, your paypal transaction ID, paypal ID, and the new email ? :D
jchan@keyclack.com
Email sent.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 03 March 2017, 02:19:15
Really disappointed I missed out on this. Was off getting married :( Eagerly waiting for R2.
We'll have extras at the end.
The secondary post has been edited for our timeline.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 03 March 2017, 12:01:19
- Manufacturer has told us Mid April, so we'll probably have this out by end of April, or Early May.
Looking like it will be a birthday keyboard gift to myself, that might make it easier to justify to my other half when she finds out I bought another bloody keyboard... :cool:
Post by: naut on Fri, 03 March 2017, 12:04:04
- Manufacturer has told us Mid April, so we'll probably have this out by end of April, or Early May.
Looking like it will be a birthday keyboard gift to myself, that might make it easier to justify to my other half when she finds out I bought another bloody keyboard... :cool:
What if she buys you a keyboard as a bday gift?
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Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 03 March 2017, 12:07:12
Haha, then I'll have EVEN MORE keyboards?!- Manufacturer has told us Mid April, so we'll probably have this out by end of April, or Early May.
Looking like it will be a birthday keyboard gift to myself, that might make it easier to justify to my other half when she finds out I bought another bloody keyboard... :cool:
What if she buys you a keyboard as a bday gift?
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I could live with that
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:20:20
Looking to transfer my spot. PM me if interested and I'll message jchan about it.
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:33:58
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:42:18
Post by: adamcobabe on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:55:32
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qYrhGD3.png)
Looking to transfer my spot. PM me if interested and I'll message jchan about it.
PM sent. :) Would be willing to swap plates with the other guy too.
Post by: kmba on Sat, 04 March 2017, 13:54:06
(http://i.imgur.com/d6ovKz1.png)
A couple renders by thesiscamper of DSA Run on the M65-A I thought you guys might like. interest check for the set here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85825.0
Post by: OfTheWild on Sat, 04 March 2017, 13:56:14
Post by: kmba on Sat, 04 March 2017, 14:07:21
Thats stunning. Kinda wish i had gotten the black instead lol.
exactly what I said :thumb:
Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 04 March 2017, 15:12:48
would anyone like that?
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 04 March 2017, 15:22:35
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qYrhGD3.png)
Looking to transfer my spot. PM me if interested and I'll message jchan about it.
PM sent. :) Would be willing to swap plates with the other guy too.
Sweet. Hope we can make this all happen.
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 04 March 2017, 20:36:39
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/T3N5jTx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/d6ovKz1.png)
A couple renders by thesiscamper of DSA Run on the M65-A I thought you guys might like. interest check for the set here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85825.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85825.0)
Damn that set is pretty :o
Post by: HMK on Sat, 04 March 2017, 20:39:17
I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 04 March 2017, 20:44:06
I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too 😍
Post by: Jpecina on Sat, 04 March 2017, 21:05:45
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 04 March 2017, 22:23:06
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 05 March 2017, 01:35:02
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
I could easily mock it up, but it won't ever happen. When has there EVER been a custom font run? I suppose you could do dye sub, but that limits colors a lot.
Post by: kmba on Sun, 05 March 2017, 01:43:25
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81016.0
Post by: HMK on Sun, 05 March 2017, 10:23:52
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
I could easily mock it up, but it won't ever happen. When has there EVER been a custom font run? I suppose you could do dye sub, but that limits colors a lot.
There is DCS Sanctuary by SP.
(http://www1.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/892/945/005/60d469a3cfbb4f9e0358306619dc3c2d.JPG)
Also dye-sub makes characters look blurred, unlike the sharp edge of Leica's enamel fill.
The color scheme would be white alpha and orange modifier on black. GMK would be great.
Post by: rawrjau on Sun, 05 March 2017, 19:24:05
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Post by: Perfex on Sun, 05 March 2017, 19:57:20
I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just remember the Switch will be available for along time... where this board will not be.
Post by: kmba on Sun, 05 March 2017, 20:18:08
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 05 March 2017, 20:19:52
You should be able to save up plenty of money for a Switch for it by the time the second game releasesGot eem
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Post by: cynviloq on Sun, 05 March 2017, 20:45:55
Hello hello!
I just sent an email to the participants.
Basically, if you want to upgrade to a QMK based PCB, we have it ready! :D
Form Here -https://goo.gl/forms/DtqgjeELSaMYVomL2
In other news, the 3 layer sandwich acrylic case will launch soon for those who are wondering.
Any updates on the QMK invoices? Did everyone who submitted in time get them already..?
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 05 March 2017, 20:52:41
I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
(https://imgur.com/t9WYVkJ.png)
Post by: Jpecina on Sun, 05 March 2017, 20:56:19
I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!Show Image(https://imgur.com/t9WYVkJ.png)
I picked one up and it's totally worth it just for Zelda. Then again I just buy all Nintendo consoles that release.
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 06 March 2017, 00:38:10
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
I could easily mock it up, but it won't ever happen. When has there EVER been a custom font run? I suppose you could do dye sub, but that limits colors a lot.
I'd just go for the white and yellow. then maybe the Leica logo for the esc or super keys.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 04:25:54
(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
Post by: aggroxcraig on Mon, 06 March 2017, 07:35:54
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 06 March 2017, 08:46:32
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
I could easily mock it up, but it won't ever happen. When has there EVER been a custom font run? I suppose you could do dye sub, but that limits colors a lot.
could you do one just to satisfy my curiosity?
Post by: kmba on Mon, 06 March 2017, 12:13:52
Post by: sony on Mon, 06 March 2017, 14:15:50
You'd have to dyesub or laser etch. No one is gonna go double shot custom font.Unless you have a **** ton of money for the molds.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 16:49:10
I've been wanting a Leica for a while but can't justify the price for a hobby. Currently rocking the new Fuji x100f, love the look of retro rangefinders.I was wondering if anyone did a Leica lens font key cap set?
would anyone like that?
That would be lovely. Count me in.
Me too, recently got myself a Leica, and I'm in love with the colors/fonts - the enamel fill is great too
can we try and make this happen? I don't have the design skills though.
I could easily mock it up, but it won't ever happen. When has there EVER been a custom font run? I suppose you could do dye sub, but that limits colors a lot.
could you do one just to satisfy my curiosity?
custom dye sub is possible ;). let me know. We can make it happen mate.
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 March 2017, 21:57:44
Mousepad sample, coming to me soon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
Literally slap a hoe for a few of those - are they going to be available outside of the group buy at all or are they completely exclusive?
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 22:00:06
Mousepad sample, coming to me soon.Are those full size? They look kinda small. Might just be the picture thoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
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Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 22:01:49
Mousepad sample, coming to me soon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
Literally slap a hoe for a few of those - are they going to be available outside of the group buy at all or are they completely exclusive?
We'll have a few extras after the buy, but it will be limited to those total units.
Mousepad sample, coming to me soon.Are those full size? They look kinda small. Might just be the picture thoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
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900x400x4mm ; just looks small, but its about 3 feet wide.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 22:07:10
NiceMousepad sample, coming to me soon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
Literally slap a hoe for a few of those - are they going to be available outside of the group buy at all or are they completely exclusive?
We'll have a few extras after the buy, but it will be limited to those total units.Mousepad sample, coming to me soon.Are those full size? They look kinda small. Might just be the picture thoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/SZ0atiZ.jpg)
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900x400x4mm ; just looks small, but its about 3 feet wide.
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Post by: Chronnoisseur on Tue, 07 March 2017, 01:47:46
(http://i.imgur.com/SzV2GZm.png)
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 07 March 2017, 03:34:13
They are even shinier than expected :).
(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 07 March 2017, 05:47:03
Just got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Wow that would make a good match for Rama's Liquid series.
Post by: marre259 on Tue, 07 March 2017, 07:12:44
Hate to do this but something came up unexpectedly and I'm looking to transfer my spot. I'm guessing the CA tax isn't going to transfer. If it does I will eat it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SzV2GZm.png)
Wonder if I could get a color swap from space grey to matte black? I've got the same options except didn't get the brass plate.
Post by: doooostin on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:28:07
I'd love to upgrade to one!
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:29:05
Just got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Those plates are fire! With all these guys that keep giving up their orders, I might have to get a second one!
Post by: codedisorg on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:59:17
There wouldn't happen to be any extra brass plates are there? :O.
I'd love to upgrade to one!
When I asked jchan right after the sample came out he said there would be extras after the GB.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 07 March 2017, 12:42:39
OMG thanks! I was kicking myself for missing this as I wasn't into keyboards at that time.... Is there some way to get reminded automatically when this comes in?Really disappointed I missed out on this. Was off getting married :( Eagerly waiting for R2.
We'll have extras at the end.
The secondary post has been edited for our timeline.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 07 March 2017, 13:17:30
I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Edit: on hold as I'm figuring out if the layout is totally for me - sold a FC660C real fast after buying it as I couldn't get used to it.
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 07 March 2017, 13:37:00
I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just sent a message! Hopefully I can change the case color too. Also might not be a fan of the brass plate, hopefully someone wants them! :)
I'll take the brass plate, if you don't want that part of it.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 07 March 2017, 14:19:46
Okie - will keep that in mind. First to get this transferred (any chance of a color change?) , some tweaking of the shipping fees (am in conus so should be cheaper), and to figure out the brass plates.I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just sent a message! Hopefully I can change the case color too. Also might not be a fan of the brass plate, hopefully someone wants them! :)
I'll take the brass plate, if you don't want that part of it.
Edit: on hold as I'm figuring out if the layout is totally for me - sold a FC660C real fast after buying it as I couldn't get used to it.
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 07 March 2017, 15:00:33
Okie - will keep that in mind. First to get this transferred (any chance of a color change?) , some tweaking of the shipping fees (am in conus so should be cheaper), and to figure out the brass plates.I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just sent a message! Hopefully I can change the case color too. Also might not be a fan of the brass plate, hopefully someone wants them! :)
I'll take the brass plate, if you don't want that part of it.
Don't forget brass plate will add a little to shipping as well.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 07 March 2017, 16:41:19
Okie - will keep that in mind. First to get this transferred (any chance of a color change?) , some tweaking of the shipping fees (am in conus so should be cheaper), and to figure out the brass plates.I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just sent a message! Hopefully I can change the case color too. Also might not be a fan of the brass plate, hopefully someone wants them! :)
I'll take the brass plate, if you don't want that part of it.
Don't forget brass plate will add a little to shipping as well.
Gotcha!
Another quick question - are we adding/soldering the switches afterwards on our own? Sorry for the noob questions haha
Post by: naut on Tue, 07 March 2017, 16:42:51
Okie - will keep that in mind. First to get this transferred (any chance of a color change?) , some tweaking of the shipping fees (am in conus so should be cheaper), and to figure out the brass plates.I realize that I really want a Nintendo Switch, and with no need for a 68% (Damn impulse buys!), I'm giving my spot away.
Total - $335 USD
Champagne Case w/ Nylon Base - $210
PCB - $40
Brass Plate Upgrade - $35
Shipping - $50
Send me a message and I'll get it sorted with JChan!
Just sent a message! Hopefully I can change the case color too. Also might not be a fan of the brass plate, hopefully someone wants them! :)
I'll take the brass plate, if you don't want that part of it.
Don't forget brass plate will add a little to shipping as well.
Gotcha!
Another quick question - are we adding/soldering the switches afterwards on our own? Sorry for the noob questions haha
Yessir.
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Post by: Fitzpa on Tue, 07 March 2017, 21:19:20
Thanks in advance.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:26:00
Does anyone know the dimensions or the m65? I want to make a wrist rest that matches the width of the case.
Thanks in advance.
331 MM in width :)
There's also a 3D model (STL) here if you need specific dimensions: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-C81Q5UTO8zbkxiQ3VxSEl2bTQ?usp=sharing
Hope that helps!
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:59:40
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Post by: Faux on Wed, 08 March 2017, 02:47:51
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 03:06:44
Just got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Is it too late to add a brass plate to my order? <_<
Those are gorgeous.
Post by: sems on Wed, 08 March 2017, 03:16:33
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 08 March 2017, 07:45:26
Hooooly hell that looks so amazingJust got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Is it too late to add a brass plate to my order? <_<
Those are gorgeous.
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Post by: Chronnoisseur on Wed, 08 March 2017, 16:31:12
In case someone wants to pass his Matte Jet Black order let me know please. Was excited about Exent but didn't live up to my expectations so it's extras or lucky transfer about this one for me.
PM'd. I have a black order I'm willing to transfer
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 17:44:09
Any idea how many left over deskmats there will be? I'm really kicking myself for not getting one because I didn't know if I would like the design or not.
About 20-30, but that's it.
Just got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Is it too late to add a brass plate to my order? <_<
Those are gorgeous.
Yupp. We'll have some extras and such after. We only have about 20 brass plates or so for spares, that won't go into pre-assigned "buy it as is" full units.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:01:27
Any idea how many left over deskmats there will be? I'm really kicking myself for not getting one because I didn't know if I would like the design or not.
About 20-30, but that's it.Just got some news on the brass PVD plates.
They are even shinier than expected :).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EGnWNzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4FECmUK.png)
Is it too late to add a brass plate to my order? <_<
Those are gorgeous.
Yupp. We'll have some extras and such after. We only have about 20 brass plates or so for spares, that won't go into pre-assigned "buy it as is" full units.
I'm so happy there will be extras ;D I knew you wouldn't let us down Jchan :thumb:
Post by: Sissy on Wed, 08 March 2017, 22:42:08
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 23:55:46
Kinda bummed I missed this buy, was hard choice between this and Mira but given there will be extras I got money aside so hope to grab one then
it was a very hard choice between this and mira. So i bought them both.
Post by: renzpwns on Thu, 09 March 2017, 02:19:57
Seems to be the way this hobby goes.Kinda bummed I missed this buy, was hard choice between this and Mira but given there will be extras I got money aside so hope to grab one then
it was a very hard choice between this and mira. So i bought them both.
Post by: dyoungc on Thu, 09 March 2017, 10:51:33
I'm hoping to change part of my order, but I'm not sure if that can be done this far into the GB.
I originally had a nylon base for the space gray top, but I was hoping to change that to an aluminum bottom. Is it possible to swap with one of the extras after orders are shipped out?
Post by: KINGPIN on Thu, 09 March 2017, 12:11:04
edit: Already got a contact, woah! Thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 19:39:27
I have a spot that is available with this specification:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
Please email me at jchan@keyclack.com. It is first come, first serve. Thanks for reading! :D
Post by: Faux on Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:01:39
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:04:48
Willing to split up the set and add the mousepad to my order?
For these pre-made units, I'd prefer to just keep them as is. Since they're so organized already ya know ?:)
We'll have mousepads leftover, so don't worry about that :)
Post by: Faux on Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:06:32
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:07:33
That makes sense. I'll keep an eye out for extras then.
As we finalize things, I'll make sure to message people about the mousepads to throw them into your package before it ships out.
Post by: r4wromg on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:52:00
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 10 March 2017, 01:42:06
Post by: dyoungc on Fri, 10 March 2017, 08:44:36
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:30:15
Did the QMK invoices go out? Worried that I didn't make the cut or filled out the form incorrectly somehow :'(
Same here.
I haven't checked on this thread in a while and DAMN I'm glad I sprung for the brass plate. Pure hotness.
Gonna have to pick up the desk mat, too, I think.
Post by: adamcobabe on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:43:49
Post by: ectoplasmatic on Fri, 10 March 2017, 17:56:16
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:46:49
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:49:13
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 19:08:18
Any idea on which direction the switches will face on the PCB? I ask because I just discovered today that GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it. Please for the love of god point the switches correctly. Pretty sure a large chunk of us will be putting GMK sets on here.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 March 2017, 19:10:34
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 March 2017, 19:16:15
Any idea on which direction the switches will face on the PCB? I ask because I just discovered today that GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it. Please for the love of god point the switches correctly. Pretty sure a large chunk of us will be putting GMK sets on here.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Thank Jesus, you just made my week
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 20:17:44
I finally got around to take the photos of the brass plate that I have.
Please compare them, but please note that these aren't the final plates that you'll be getting. You'll be getting: Polished with PVD coating.
Only Polish.
Full Album - http://imgur.com/a/1gkT7
(http://i.imgur.com/KIbBYun.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Nl8Musu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HbGfsyS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1z83z27.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AxiKIji.jpg)
Brushed, no polish.
Full Album - http://imgur.com/a/KBwBU
(http://i.imgur.com/1GodlT1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cekLjvS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MSV6FAr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EINYqDm.jpg)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 20:18:42
(http://i.imgur.com/YkZw7e8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VMyuquB.jpg)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 10 March 2017, 20:42:26
Also, to keep the hype train going, I had a moment to take photos of my board today :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YkZw7e8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VMyuquB.jpg)
So clean it's OXICLEAN :thumb:
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:14:47
Any idea on which direction the switches will face on the PCB? I ask because I just discovered today that GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it. Please for the love of god point the switches correctly. Pretty sure a large chunk of us will be putting GMK sets on here.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Will 2x3x4 LEDs still work for DSA or SA but not GMK?
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:35:46
Also, to keep the hype train going, I had a moment to take photos of my board today :)Giggity giggity gooShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YkZw7e8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VMyuquB.jpg)
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Post by: Crossfire on Sat, 11 March 2017, 01:21:54
Fantastic work, jchan! Can't wait!
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 11 March 2017, 01:53:51
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Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:46:24
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 19:30:01
Hi jchan, any news about the qmk pcb? haven't got any news about those.
I'm wrapping up the invoices today and tomorrow. You'll see it soon.
Post by: Fullcream on Sat, 11 March 2017, 22:17:59
GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Will 2x3x4 LEDs still work for DSA or SA but not GMK?
Yes this absolutely is a thing. Many people are nescient and no one seems to ever talk about it. So many people putting gmk or similar low profile sets on upside down switches.
Gladly it seems that all, if not most quality pcbs for custom builds are designed for correct switch orientation.
Also with LEDs. Even with south positioned LEDs for me personally GMK caps still bottom out on the LED.
I've tried 2x3x4, even 1.8 LEDs I got from Winkeyless still bottom out on the keycap. The only thing that works for me is clear switchtops with 2x3x4 leds mounted underneath the switchtop.
However I think this may not work with holtite sockets.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 12 March 2017, 01:31:31
Hi jchan, any news about the qmk pcb? haven't got any news about those.I just received and payed my invoice for the qmk :)
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 12 March 2017, 04:18:02
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 12 March 2017, 08:01:10
Post by: Arallu on Sun, 12 March 2017, 09:05:57
GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Will 2x3x4 LEDs still work for DSA or SA but not GMK?
Yes this absolutely is a thing. Many people are nescient and no one seems to ever talk about it. So many people putting gmk or similar low profile sets on upside down switches.
Gladly it seems that all, if not most quality pcbs for custom builds are designed for correct switch orientation.
Also with LEDs. Even with south positioned LEDs for me personally GMK caps still bottom out on the LED.
I've tried 2x3x4, even 1.8 LEDs I got from Winkeyless still bottom out on the keycap. The only thing that works for me is clear switchtops with 2x3x4 leds mounted underneath the switchtop.
However I think this may not work with holtite sockets.
Ok but I need to know if 2x3x4 will work for SA and DSA caps on this PCB or else I need to buy some 1.8s since I've already bought the 2x3x4s.
Post by: Arallu on Sun, 12 March 2017, 09:08:02
If someone wants the QMK and didn't get an invoice, Jchan you can cancel mine and give it to them.
I submitted for one but didn't get invoiced yet, if they have all gone out, Ill take your slot if Jchan wants to swap to me.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 12 March 2017, 10:15:21
GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it.
LEDS are in the South position.
Also, you want 1.8mm LEDS.
Will 2x3x4 LEDs still work for DSA or SA but not GMK?
Yes this absolutely is a thing. Many people are nescient and no one seems to ever talk about it. So many people putting gmk or similar low profile sets on upside down switches.
Gladly it seems that all, if not most quality pcbs for custom builds are designed for correct switch orientation.
Also with LEDs. Even with south positioned LEDs for me personally GMK caps still bottom out on the LED.
I've tried 2x3x4, even 1.8 LEDs I got from Winkeyless still bottom out on the keycap. The only thing that works for me is clear switchtops with 2x3x4 leds mounted underneath the switchtop.
However I think this may not work with holtite sockets.
Ok but I need to know if 2x3x4 will work for SA and DSA caps on this PCB or else I need to buy some 1.8s since I've already bought the 2x3x4s.
I obviously don't have this PCB, but I don't see why it would differ from any other. I have placed 2x3x4 leds in similar boards without issue. I remember a few that I had to rework because they weren't pushed all the way in before I soldered them, but as long as they are flush there should be no issue with DSA or SA keycaps.
However, since you have time before the board arrives, you might as well get some 1.8mm LEDs. They loolk nice, seem to be slightly brighter, and will be better compatible if you decide to put cherry profile caps on it down the road.
You can get them from eBay for cheap or even zeal has some for a decent price, if you want them quicker.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 12 March 2017, 10:16:18
Also, to keep the hype train going, I had a moment to take photos of my board today :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YkZw7e8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VMyuquB.jpg)
Soo clean Ö_Ö
Makes having missed out even worse =/
Really hoping there's a chance to grab some from the Leftovers, but I guess chances are pretty slim?
Post by: OfTheWild on Sun, 12 March 2017, 11:45:03
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 12 March 2017, 11:48:27
Post by: Arallu on Sun, 12 March 2017, 13:03:46
I obviously don't have this PCB, but I don't see why it would differ from any other. I have placed 2x3x4 leds in similar boards without issue. I remember a few that I had to rework because they weren't pushed all the way in before I soldered them, but as long as they are flush there should be no issue with DSA or SA keycaps.
However, since you have time before the board arrives, you might as well get some 1.8mm LEDs. They loolk nice, seem to be slightly brighter, and will be better compatible if you decide to put cherry profile caps on it down the road.
You can get them from eBay for cheap or even zeal has some for a decent price, if you want them quicker.
Ok thanks, I'll go with them then to be safe. :D
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 12 March 2017, 14:18:46
Was the qmk pcb limited?
It was limited. I thought I filled out my form pretty quick. I never got an email.. Did I miss out?
Post by: KINGPIN on Sun, 12 March 2017, 14:43:50
same, won't miss it if I miss out tho, PS2avrGB is good enough for meWas the qmk pcb limited?
It was limited. I thought I filled out my form pretty quick. I never got an email... Did I miss out?
Post by: codedisorg on Sun, 12 March 2017, 15:18:54
Was the qmk pcb limited?
It was limited. I thought I filled out my form pretty quick. I never got an email.. Did I miss out?
Email was sent out at 5:30 AM PST and I filled it around two hours later when I woke up. I didn't get an invoice. My guess is that it went to the east coasters or Europeans who were awake.
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 12 March 2017, 17:15:28
I'm still working on the QMK pcb invoicing stuff.
Don't worry. We're manufacturing a bunch, and some for stock after as well.
Post by: tonykwon79 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:34:11
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Post by: imprevade on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:27:31
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
^-^ you are pure gold tonykwon, I hope you're able the keyboard you want.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:30:51
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
Post by: tonykwon79 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 23:09:06
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
I have sent email to you. Please check your inbox and reply to me asap.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 20:35:41
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
I have sent email to you. Please check your inbox and reply to me asap.
will reply today when I catch a moment.
In other news:
the mousepad sample came in, and it looks amazing. We're going with a new manufacturer who has a slightly better quality print quality, and the rubber is slightly MORE GRIPPY than the previous mousepad run we had.
(http://i.imgur.com/bGP7Nkg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vYIyiq3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/25at3Wn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/J7ewLkt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Do2ZGCF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HQcTOtF.jpg)
Post by: Jpecina on Tue, 14 March 2017, 20:40:10
The sample looks great man. Will that be the only color scheme?As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
I have sent email to you. Please check your inbox and reply to me asap.
will reply today when I catch a moment.
In other news:
the mousepad sample came in, and it looks amazing. We're going with a new manufacturer who has a slightly better quality print quality, and the rubber is slightly MORE GRIPPY than the previous mousepad run we had.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bGP7Nkg.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vYIyiq3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/25at3Wn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/J7ewLkt.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Do2ZGCF.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HQcTOtF.jpg)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 14 March 2017, 23:07:34
The sample looks great man. Will that be the only color scheme?
Good question, I'm also curious. I tend to get my mousepads super dirty so if it's light gray I may have to keep this one as a display piece :p
Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 14 March 2017, 23:50:45
Otherwise looks nice.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 00:52:54
Yeah, I prefer my mouse pads dark because I'm a sinner who eats on my desk.You will go to hell for eating at your desk! Lol seriously though I had to break that habit a few years ago and everything is much cleaner now.
Otherwise looks nice.
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 15 March 2017, 03:49:36
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 15 March 2017, 07:11:15
Do I need to pay both of them?
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:39:19
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 20:55:19
QMK invoices are trickling out right now still. They'll be in waves.
About 1/2 have gone out and I see all the comments and such and will send you an email regarding your additional comment.
Post by: imprevade on Thu, 16 March 2017, 00:26:12
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 16 March 2017, 11:36:11
There wouldn't happen to be any extra brass plates are there? :O.
I'd love to upgrade to one!
I'd be in for an upgrade as well!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 20:00:19
There wouldn't happen to be any extra brass plates are there? :O.
I'd love to upgrade to one!
I'd be in for an upgrade as well!
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 16 March 2017, 22:25:16
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 01:56:12
Did all the qmk invoices go out?
still got a few to go. will hammer them out tomorrow ;)
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 08:48:42
Did all the qmk invoices go out?
still got a few to go. will hammer them out tomorrow ;)
Is it too late for upgrading gmk pcb??
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:18:48
Did all the qmk invoices go out?
still got a few to go. will hammer them out tomorrow ;)
Is it too late for upgrading gmk pcb??
email me jchan@keyclack.com ; with your M65-A invoice number (i.e. m65-a-001).
Also provide your paypal address
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:21:16
Got it, thanks!!
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:00:00
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
Hey jchan, just wondering but how will we be contacted to pick the stabs?
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:06:17
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
Hey jchan, just wondering but how will we be contacted to pick the stabs?
Everyone will be mass emailed :)
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:59:46
Post by: Merloobi on Fri, 17 March 2017, 23:19:29
How much would the nylon base cost? Just wondering as I guess I have the aluminium bottom one now.
Probably around $65 + shipping considering the Nylon set is $20 cheaper than the Aluminium set and the Aluminium base is $85 itself.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 18 March 2017, 01:09:56
How much would the nylon base cost? Just wondering as I guess I have the aluminium bottom one now.
Probably around $65 + shipping considering the Nylon set is $20 cheaper than the Aluminium set and the Aluminium base is $85 itself.
Sounds good! Now to figure out on how to pop one together and the switches! First custom build so I'm nervous haha
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 18 March 2017, 09:34:31
Post by: xondat on Sat, 18 March 2017, 09:35:57
Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 18 March 2017, 09:38:19
Sounds great, thanks!Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:46:54
Did all the qmk invoices go out?
still got a few to go. will hammer them out tomorrow ;)
Haven't seen an invoice, hope I didn't mess up the form :(
Post by: imprevade on Sat, 18 March 2017, 14:01:04
Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Most people prefer plate mounted keyboards. The M65-A is a plate mounted keyboard. Having PCB mounted switches is only going to make it more difficult to put together with literally no added benefit. I would have to disagree with the statement above and say that plate mounted switches are most often preferable. The only reason to buy PCB mounted switches is if you know you're using them on a PCB mounted KB or if you have no idea what you'll be using the switches for—because you can painfully trim all the PCB mounts off later.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I've always understood it.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 18 March 2017, 14:07:37
Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Most people prefer plate mounted keyboards. The M65-A is a plate mounted keyboard. Having PCB mounted switches is only going to make it more difficult to put together with literally no added benefit. I would have to disagree with the statement above and say that plate mounted switches are most often preferable. The only reason to buy PCB mounted switches is if you know you're using them on a PCB mounted KB or if you have no idea what you'll be using the switches for—because you can painfully trim all the PCB mounts off later.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I've always understood it.
The reason to buy PCB mount switches is that you can use them as is on most plate mounted setups, or simply snip off the PCB mount legs. With plate mount switches you're tied to plate mount only. I also find PCB mount better when handwiring boards as I can use the PCB mounts to hold diodes in place :cool: Pretty much no reason to limit yourself by buying plate mount only switches IMO.
Back on topic; can't wait for this board. QMK invoice paid. My body is ready!
Post by: Arcsxum on Sat, 18 March 2017, 17:59:12
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
Hey jchan, just wondering but how will we be contacted to pick the stabs?
Everyone will be mass emailed :)
Got it :thumb:
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 18 March 2017, 22:33:57
Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Most people prefer plate mounted keyboards. The M65-A is a plate mounted keyboard. Having PCB mounted switches is only going to make it more difficult to put together with literally no added benefit. I would have to disagree with the statement above and say that plate mounted switches are most often preferable. The only reason to buy PCB mounted switches is if you know you're using them on a PCB mounted KB or if you have no idea what you'll be using the switches for—because you can painfully trim all the PCB mounts off later.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I've always understood it.
The reason to buy PCB mount switches is that you can use them as is on most plate mounted setups, or simply snip off the PCB mount legs. With plate mount switches you're tied to plate mount only. I also find PCB mount better when handwiring boards as I can use the PCB mounts to hold diodes in place :cool: Pretty much no reason to limit yourself by buying plate mount only switches IMO.
Back on topic; can't wait for this board. QMK invoice paid. My body is ready!
Thanks for the tips above - I guess I might get plate mounts seeing that the RAMABAE has the brass plate mounts :) . Next to figure out which kind of switches to get! I want something more stiffer then my HHKB's and yet feel like them... Zealios seem to fit the profile but I have yet to try one out in real life unfortunately.
Post by: afrokobe on Sat, 18 March 2017, 23:18:43
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
Hey jchan, just wondering but how will we be contacted to pick the stabs?
Everyone will be mass emailed :)
Do you happen to have any additional alu bases left. I would love to purchase an extra.
Post by: JDragon on Sun, 19 March 2017, 01:29:38
Looking into getting switches, and I'm wondering if I should get PCB mount or plate mount? Thanks! :)
Both should be supported. PCB mount is always preferable, but either work.
Most people prefer plate mounted keyboards. The M65-A is a plate mounted keyboard. Having PCB mounted switches is only going to make it more difficult to put together with literally no added benefit. I would have to disagree with the statement above and say that plate mounted switches are most often preferable. The only reason to buy PCB mounted switches is if you know you're using them on a PCB mounted KB or if you have no idea what you'll be using the switches for—because you can painfully trim all the PCB mounts off later.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I've always understood it.
I've had problems with plate mount switches being very slightly crooked in plates that support switch top removal, as well as universal plates. That's likely a problem with the plate rather than the switches, but if I can avoid those issues by using PCB mount, it's worth the extra trouble for me.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 19 March 2017, 02:25:23
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 19 March 2017, 09:17:34
Is there totally no glow at all if we get the aluminum bottom?
that's correct. I've noted in multiple places that the aluminum does not support underglow.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 19 March 2017, 10:24:42
Is there totally no glow at all if we get the aluminum bottom?
that's correct. I've noted in multiple places that the aluminum does not support underglow.
Gotcha - in line for one of the nylon bases when it comes in stock! Maybe I'll be able to switch between both of them and see which one I like most! Is there a direct shot of the aluminum underside? (images i've been able to find only showed the side profile). Thanks again!
Post by: Perfex on Sun, 19 March 2017, 14:56:15
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/p992ptquarmb1nl/EBAFXtk.jpg?dl=0
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/ku9zvjf5qunvgcc/nYoT0LC.jpg?dl=0
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 19 March 2017, 14:59:42
Here are the photos from the interest checkThanks man! Looks great!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p992ptquarmb1nl/EBAFXtk.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ku9zvjf5qunvgcc/nYoT0LC.jpg?dl=0
Post by: ghostdeini on Sun, 19 March 2017, 15:48:01
Here are the photos from the interest check
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/p992ptquarmb1nl/EBAFXtk.jpg?dl=0
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/ku9zvjf5qunvgcc/nYoT0LC.jpg?dl=0
Man that looks so clean! Seeing the underside of the components really gave me a better idea of the "physicality" of this thing. Looks pretty hefty!
Post by: dyoungc on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:55:54
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
I'm assuming the set has already been taken, but if the extra aluminum bottom is still open, can I please swap it for my nylon bottom and pay the difference?
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 19 March 2017, 21:05:44
As I missed to join GB, I am looking for someone who is looking for order transferring to me, so I can get it and done.
My preference of this board would be;
- M65-A aka Ramabae65 $230 w/ Aluminum Base (Champagne, Rose Gold or Space Grey)
- PCB $40.00
I have plate-mounted keyswitches, and hope the above components works well with my keyswitches.
Please email me at tonykwon79@gmail.com
Heyo :P
There is this one:
- Space Grey top
- Space Grey Bottom
- Brass Plate
- Additional Silver bottom
- 1 Mousepad
- PCB
$415 pre shipping.
I can take out the additional silver bottom, or I can take out the space gray bottom. It'd be $85.00 less.
I'm assuming the set has already been taken, but if the extra aluminum bottom is still open, can I please swap it for my nylon bottom and pay the difference?
I got the set above from jchan. The extra silver aluminum bottom is still available though(i think?) as I only wanted the space grey one.
Post by: KINGPIN on Mon, 20 March 2017, 06:14:55
Post by: aggroxcraig on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:04:37
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:28:37
I had a dream last night that my M65-A came in the mail. It just occurred to me that it was just dream and I got really sad. :(
That's brutal.
I've had similar experiences with other items recently (although they all slip my mind at the moment). It will come soon enough. :thumb:
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:35:07
I had a dream last night that my M65-A came in the mail. It just occurred to me that it was just dream and I got really sad. :(
Too soon junior.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:42:45
My hyperfuse is ready, zealios too...and of course - lube....for the stabs, you see. :))
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 20 March 2017, 14:22:43
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
Post by: codedisorg on Mon, 20 March 2017, 16:44:40
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 16:57:00
Just got myself a set of GMK Carbon NIB for this upcoming build! Now to figure out if I want Zealios or anything else for the switches hereI go with zeals for every build tbh
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
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Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:09:11
Just got myself a set of GMK Carbon NIB for this upcoming build! Now to figure out if I want Zealios or anything else for the switches hereI go with zeals for every build tbh
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
How about the silencing clips? Not sure if those would make the typing experience better, I'm still totally new. ;D
PS: There's no need to get the stabilizers as those would be included, right? Thanks!!
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:20:47
Yep before the boards ship jchan said he would send out emails to verify what size stabs you will need.Just got myself a set of GMK Carbon NIB for this upcoming build! Now to figure out if I want Zealios or anything else for the switches hereI go with zeals for every build tbh
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
How about the silencing clips? Not sure if those would make the typing experience better, I'm still totally new. ;D
PS: There's no need to get the stabilizers as those would be included, right? Thanks!!
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:28:01
Yep before the boards ship jchan said he would send out emails to verify what size stabs you will need.Just got myself a set of GMK Carbon NIB for this upcoming build! Now to figure out if I want Zealios or anything else for the switches hereI go with zeals for every build tbh
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
How about the silencing clips? Not sure if those would make the typing experience better, I'm still totally new. ;D
PS: There's no need to get the stabilizers as those would be included, right? Thanks!!
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Awesome - just ordered 70 of the R5 zealios and a bunch of silencing clips. This is going to be my first custom build so I'm stoked!
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:28:47
Nice man zealios are the bomb that's what 3 of my 4 last builds haveYep before the boards ship jchan said he would send out emails to verify what size stabs you will need.Just got myself a set of GMK Carbon NIB for this upcoming build! Now to figure out if I want Zealios or anything else for the switches hereI go with zeals for every build tbh
PS: Anyone going with a R4.5 Zealio set for this build?
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
How about the silencing clips? Not sure if those would make the typing experience better, I'm still totally new. ;D
PS: There's no need to get the stabilizers as those would be included, right? Thanks!!
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Awesome - just ordered 70 of the R5 zealios and a bunch of silencing clips. This is going to be my first custom build so I'm stoked!
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Post by: ghostdeini on Mon, 20 March 2017, 22:19:44
Nice man zealios are the bomb that's what 3 of my 4 last builds have
Meanwhile I just have my zealios in a ziploc bag. I occasionally take one out, put a cap on it, and pretend that I'm typing while balancing it on my desk. Needless to say, I'm really looking forward to soldering them onto an actual keyboard. :))
Post by: topsykrett on Tue, 21 March 2017, 09:28:34
Post by: obviouslygene on Tue, 21 March 2017, 11:23:49
Post by: kmba on Tue, 21 March 2017, 12:06:31
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 21 March 2017, 12:51:23
The cons with mod switches outweighed the pros for me. They are nice and tactile, but more wobble than any other tactile (now that zeal fixed zealio wobble pretty well), and not as smooth as zealio. Zeals are not quite as tactile but feel nicer overall to me.Sounds about like what I've been hearing from people lately too. I've only really used topres and Razer switches before so I can't wait to try the Zealios R5!
Post by: pinky_chi on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:28:21
The cons with mod switches outweighed the pros for me. They are nice and tactile, but more wobble than any other tactile (now that zeal fixed zealio wobble pretty well), and not as smooth as zealio. Zeals are not quite as tactile but feel nicer overall to me.
oh did they fix the zealios wobble? Do you know at which round they fixed it? I have a set of R2's on my ergo and a bag of R3's waiting to be put on the M65... I wonder if I should get join the new gb.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:51:22
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:55:47
The cons with mod switches outweighed the pros for me. They are nice and tactile, but more wobble than any other tactile (now that zeal fixed zealio wobble pretty well), and not as smooth as zealio. Zeals are not quite as tactile but feel nicer overall to me.
I haven't used zeals before. How do they compare to gaterons as far as wobble goes? I'm planning on using these gat greens that I already have. Wondering if it's worth looking into zeals instead.
Post by: Arallu on Tue, 21 March 2017, 17:55:56
There wouldn't happen to be any extra brass plates are there? :O.
I'd love to upgrade to one!
I'd be in for an upgrade as well!
We'll have the extras available after the GB ships.
New update:
GMK Screw in stabs just arrived for everyone's kits. You'll have a choice of 6.25U or 7U when it comes the time to be finalized for shipment.
I assume the Zealio screw-in transparent gold stabs will work, since I already bought those for this build along with the *now 1.8mm* LEDs and a set of R4.5 zealio switches.
Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 21 March 2017, 19:56:03
Still need to figure out the keyset, though...
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 21 March 2017, 22:08:35
Got my r5 Zealios today. The hype is real.I feel like this board was born to be used with some kind of SA set. I think Hack'd by Geeks will be the first thing I put on.
Still need to figure out the keyset, though...
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 21 March 2017, 22:34:44
Got my r5 Zealios today. The hype is real.I feel like this board was born to be used with some kind of SA set. I think Hack'd by Geeks will be the first thing I put on.
Still need to figure out the keyset, though...
Yea going to be throwing SA Carbon w/ orange alphas on mine. Will have SA Round 6 cream/violet, SA Camping, and hopefully SA Chocolatier as backups just in case!
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:20:03
SA Round 6 cream/violet is so stunning. I'm super sad I missed out on that because I don't really follow DT :-[Got my r5 Zealios today. The hype is real.I feel like this board was born to be used with some kind of SA set. I think Hack'd by Geeks will be the first thing I put on.
Still need to figure out the keyset, though...
Yea going to be throwing SA Carbon w/ orange alphas on mine. Will have SA Round 6 cream/violet, SA Camping, and hopefully SA Chocolatier as backups just in case!
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:24:00
SA Round 6 cream/violet is so stunning. I'm super sad I missed out on that because I don't really follow DT :-[Got my r5 Zealios today. The hype is real.I feel like this board was born to be used with some kind of SA set. I think Hack'd by Geeks will be the first thing I put on.
Still need to figure out the keyset, though...
Yea going to be throwing SA Carbon w/ orange alphas on mine. Will have SA Round 6 cream/violet, SA Camping, and hopefully SA Chocolatier as backups just in case!
Yea mine are currently being shipped to me, I got very very lucky. 7bit (guy running the gb) was trying to finish up collecting money for Round 6 and cleared some very old invoices that weren't paid, there was two violet on cream kits leftover and I was able to jump on one of them, then some violet modifiers opened up and I was able to piece together enough to cover a 65% (almost a tkl but missing f1-f12)
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Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:53:24
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 02:39:44
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Post by: audax989 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 03:11:32
Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?
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you don't happen to have a kailh white switch in there would you?
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 03:20:37
Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?
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you don't happen to have a kailh white switch in there would you?
sry no kailh! Let me know if you want some info for:
Cherry Vintage Blue, Cherry Vintage Brown, Cherry Vintage Black, and the full new Cherry family
Gateron Black, Gateron Red, Gateron Yellow, Gateron Clear, Gateron Green, Gateron Blue, Gateron Brown,
MOD-L Tactile, MOD-M Tactile, MOD-H Tactile, MOD-L Linear, MOD-M Linear, MOD-H Linear,
Zealio 62g,
Cherristotle (with gateron top) MX Black Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 62g Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 80g Spring, Gatistotle MX Black Spring, Gatistotle 62g Spring, Aristotle
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 22 March 2017, 07:17:46
Cherristotle, gold plated 72g spring, stickered.Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?
(Attachment Link)
you don't happen to have a kailh white switch in there would you?
sry no kailh! Let me know if you want some info for:
Cherry Vintage Blue, Cherry Vintage Brown, Cherry Vintage Black, and the full new Cherry family
Gateron Black, Gateron Red, Gateron Yellow, Gateron Clear, Gateron Green, Gateron Blue, Gateron Brown,
MOD-L Tactile, MOD-M Tactile, MOD-H Tactile, MOD-L Linear, MOD-M Linear, MOD-H Linear,
Zealio 62g,
Cherristotle (with gateron top) MX Black Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 62g Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 80g Spring, Gatistotle MX Black Spring, Gatistotle 62g Spring, Aristotle
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:28:49
We've made some good progress so far since my last "update". Currently, we're working out the custom foam design, and the boxes for it. The mousepads have been paid for a while ago, and now, we're waiting for it all to come in.
Rama just finalized the weight design, and we'll be seeing it very soon ;).
Lastly, I will note that I will be moving offices very soon (in April). We're estimated to get this around the same time that I will be moving, so things will be hectic, and on top of that, I have to inspect all of the parts, etc etc.
Just wanted to give you all the heads up, and things are still moving for this buy, and the train won't stop ;).
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:30:39
I'm glad to see so many people hyped so much about this :).
We've made some good progress so far since my last "update". Currently, we're working out the custom foam design, and the boxes for it. The mousepads have been paid for a while ago, and now, we're waiting for it all to come in.
Rama just finalized the weight design, and we'll be seeing it very soon ;).
Lastly, I will note that I will be moving offices very soon (in April). We're estimated to get this around the same time that I will be moving, so things will be hectic, and on top of that, I have to inspect all of the parts, etc etc.
Just wanted to give you all the heads up, and things are still moving for this buy, and the train won't stop ;).
Awesome - custom designed etchings on the weight? ;D Can't wait to get it soon!
Post by: Jpecina on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:30:50
I'm glad to see so many people hyped so much about this :).Can't "weight" to see the final design! Super hyped!
We've made some good progress so far since my last "update". Currently, we're working out the custom foam design, and the boxes for it. The mousepads have been paid for a while ago, and now, we're waiting for it all to come in.
Rama just finalized the weight design, and we'll be seeing it very soon ;).
Lastly, I will note that I will be moving offices very soon (in April). We're estimated to get this around the same time that I will be moving, so things will be hectic, and on top of that, I have to inspect all of the parts, etc etc.
Just wanted to give you all the heads up, and things are still moving for this buy, and the train won't stop ;).
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:43:50
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:05:29
Hype! Hopefully we can get these during may :p
May will be a for sure my dude.
In any case, I also finished sending out all the QMK upgrades. Please try to pay it immediately. I'll leave the invoices open for about a few weeks, and if you're no longer interested, please just cancel it :).
Thanks everyone!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:18:52
Welp, am I too late for the QMK upgrade? I would like to enter for one too.Hype! Hopefully we can get these during may :p
May will be a for sure my dude.
In any case, I also finished sending out all the QMK upgrades. Please try to pay it immediately. I'll leave the invoices open for about a few weeks, and if you're no longer interested, please just cancel it :).
Thanks everyone!
PS: Filled out the google form too
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:22:21
Welp, am I too late for the QMK upgrade? I would like to enter for one too.Hype! Hopefully we can get these during may :p
May will be a for sure my dude.
In any case, I also finished sending out all the QMK upgrades. Please try to pay it immediately. I'll leave the invoices open for about a few weeks, and if you're no longer interested, please just cancel it :).
Thanks everyone!
PS: Filled out the google form too
Sent ;)
Please remember this is for an upgrade ;)
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:26:12
Welp, am I too late for the QMK upgrade? I would like to enter for one too.Hype! Hopefully we can get these during may :p
May will be a for sure my dude.
In any case, I also finished sending out all the QMK upgrades. Please try to pay it immediately. I'll leave the invoices open for about a few weeks, and if you're no longer interested, please just cancel it :).
Thanks everyone!
PS: Filled out the google form too
Sent ;)
Please remember this is for an upgrade ;)
And done, thanks!
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:26:28
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:30:43
Looks fantastic, I really regret not joining this group buy. Hopefully I'll be able to get one of the extras when they're available.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg)
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:32:49
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg)
Rama just slays everything he puts his mind to :p
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 22:06:37
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg)
How is it going to be applied on the metal?
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 22 March 2017, 23:26:52
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg)
Rama just slays everything he puts his mind to :p
ahaha aww thanks man!
(http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/26uuKA6.jpg)
How is it going to be applied on the metal?
Laser etched :)
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 22 March 2017, 23:44:02
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 01:22:10
I signed uo for a qmk upgrade as well awhile ago but haven't gotten anything. Was i too late? Also i sent in a ticket for a USB cable that fell apart. Any idea for when that will be addressed?
Hmm I sent it to everyone. Shoot me an email jchan@keyclack.com for both things and I'll look it over ;)
Post by: pon10 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 01:45:34
Cherristotle, gold plated 72g spring, stickered.Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?
(Attachment Link)
you don't happen to have a kailh white switch in there would you?
sry no kailh! Let me know if you want some info for:
Cherry Vintage Blue, Cherry Vintage Brown, Cherry Vintage Black, and the full new Cherry family
Gateron Black, Gateron Red, Gateron Yellow, Gateron Clear, Gateron Green, Gateron Blue, Gateron Brown,
MOD-L Tactile, MOD-M Tactile, MOD-H Tactile, MOD-L Linear, MOD-M Linear, MOD-H Linear,
Zealio 62g,
Cherristotle (with gateron top) MX Black Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 62g Spring, Cherristotle (with gateron top) 80g Spring, Gatistotle MX Black Spring, Gatistotle 62g Spring, Aristotle
Hot!
Post by: adamcobabe on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:52:09
Post by: blackginger on Thu, 23 March 2017, 15:37:40
Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Yes pls
Post by: kmba on Thu, 23 March 2017, 15:39:19
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 15:46:33
Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.That would be a dream
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Post by: Perfex on Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:11:57
Would be like the modern version of:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20150711/7ae74c258f3da0af78e736e13588ff26.jpg)
Post by: Crossfire on Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:32:13
I have a M10-A coming to go with the silver top/bottom M65-A I ordered, but I have to agree a numpad in this style would rock!HHKB? :)
Would be like the modern version of:Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20150711/7ae74c258f3da0af78e736e13588ff26.jpg)
Joking aside, kudos to Rama and jchan for smooth operating of the choo-choo train! ;)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 23 March 2017, 17:21:35
Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Wow, why didn't I even think of that!??
JCHAN!?? ;D ;D ;)
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 17:38:24
Hmm do I sense sarcasm?!?!Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Wow, why didn't I even think of that!??
JCHAN!?? ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: naut on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:02:31
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:07:15
Not at all!! I honestly didn't even consider it - but now I definitely want to do it!!Hmm do I sense sarcasm?!?!Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Wow, why didn't I even think of that!??
JCHAN!?? ;D ;D ;)
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Show Image
Found in the archives.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
HAHAHAH that's my work done! :P
I think it would look quite nice as a numpad :o
Post by: naut on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:14:51
Show ImageFound in the archives.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
HAHAHAH that's my work done! :P
I think it would look quite nice as a numpad :o
:D Just helping out any way that I can!
It really would look nice as a numpad! Sign me up for 2!
Post by: ghostdeini on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:23:23
Found in the archives.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
Oh boy, that is *quite* compelling. Somebody, make one of those "don't ever talk to me or my son ever again" pictures
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:30:41
Not at all!! I honestly didn't even consider it - but now I definitely want to do it!!Hmm do I sense sarcasm?!?!Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Wow, why didn't I even think of that!??
JCHAN!?? ;D ;D ;)
Sent from my SM-G928V using TapatalkShow ImageFound in the archives.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
HAHAHAH that's my work done!
I think it would look quite nice as a numpad :o
Dude that's awesome! Let's do thissss
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Post by: tr4656 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:53:11
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:01:33
Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:28:35
will the sandwich cases be available sometime soon, or are you planning to wait until the M65-A ships?
Just wondering what's those sandwich cases you mentioned? I see this mentioned in the OP but I have no idea of what that is...
Post by: kmba on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:47:13
will the sandwich cases be available sometime soon, or are you planning to wait until the M65-A ships?
Just wondering what's those sandwich cases you mentioned? I see this mentioned in the OP but I have no idea of what that is...
sandwich case: http://i.imgur.com/ctyg41J.png
metal, acrylic, or carbon fiber top and bottom, with usually acrylic sandwiched in the middle.
Post by: naut on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:49:36
will the sandwich cases be available sometime soon, or are you planning to wait until the M65-A ships?
Just wondering what's those sandwich cases you mentioned? I see this mentioned in the OP but I have no idea of what that is...
sandwich case: http://i.imgur.com/ctyg41J.png
metal, acrylic, or carbon fiber top and bottom, with usually acrylic sandwiched in the middle.
Sounds so delicious.
Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:58:45
will the sandwich cases be available sometime soon, or are you planning to wait until the M65-A ships?
Just wondering what's those sandwich cases you mentioned? I see this mentioned in the OP but I have no idea of what that is...
sandwich case: http://i.imgur.com/ctyg41J.png
metal, acrylic, or carbon fiber top and bottom, with usually acrylic sandwiched in the middle.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. I guess with a sandwich case the keys are 'floating' of sorts then.
Post by: adamcobabe on Fri, 24 March 2017, 00:02:12
Not at all!! I honestly didn't even consider it - but now I definitely want to do it!!
I think it would look quite nice as a numpad :o
YES!!! So excited. JCHAN will be down, I'm sure. ;)
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 24 March 2017, 08:58:12
will the sandwich cases be available sometime soon, or are you planning to wait until the M65-A ships?
Just wondering what's those sandwich cases you mentioned? I see this mentioned in the OP but I have no idea of what that is...
sandwich case: http://i.imgur.com/ctyg41J.png
metal, acrylic, or carbon fiber top and bottom, with usually acrylic sandwiched in the middle.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. I guess with a sandwich case the keys are 'floating' of sorts then.
The sandwich album from the interest check; http://imgur.com/a/WePCr (http://imgur.com/a/WePCr)
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 24 March 2017, 09:23:39
I suppose a genie in a lamp would suffice if no one has a time machine.
Post by: ghostdeini on Fri, 24 March 2017, 10:33:52
Does anyone have a time machine so that I can travel a few weeks into the future and build my M65-A? The hype I feel is almost too much to handle at this point.
I suppose a genie in a lamp would suffice if no one has a time machine.
Sounds like you could use a Cinco Napple
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 24 March 2017, 15:27:47
Does anyone have a time machine so that I can travel a few weeks into the future and build my M65-A? The hype I feel is almost too much to handle at this point.
I suppose a genie in a lamp would suffice if no one has a time machine.
C-can I also get a timemachine while we are at it?
Just finished burying our dog :'(.
She was misdiagnosed and ended up having adrenal gland cancer which spread out to the kidneys, heart, liver and a part of the nose.
If they realized that the first time we brought her to the vet for a check up because she wasn't feeling well they could have cured her pretty easily. But it's easy to put someone else at fault. I guess...
Ah well, she had an awesome life for almost 12 years, so that's something.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 24 March 2017, 20:26:29
Does anyone have a time machine so that I can travel a few weeks into the future and build my M65-A? The hype I feel is almost too much to handle at this point.
I suppose a genie in a lamp would suffice if no one has a time machine.
C-can I also get a timemachine while we are at it?
Just finished burying our dog :'(.
She was misdiagnosed and ended up having adrenal gland cancer which spread out to the kidneys, heart, liver and a part of the nose.
If they realized that the first time we brought her to the vet for a check up because she wasn't feeling well they could have cured her pretty easily. But it's easy to put someone else at fault. I guess...
Ah well, she had an awesome life for almost 12 years, so that's something.
Well that's ****ty. Let's all give another two middle fingers up to cancer
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If this is in violation of any geekhack rules, just consider that my way of hunt and pecking the keys instead of a rude gesture
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 24 March 2017, 20:34:38
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Post by: atomicus on Fri, 24 March 2017, 22:34:15
Post by: kmba on Fri, 24 March 2017, 22:37:45
Post by: Perfex on Sat, 25 March 2017, 00:23:44
As this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 12:50:33
In 'limited amounts' soAs this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Post by: atomicus on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:00:35
As this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Where will those extras appear? Is there a waiting list or will it be first come first served?
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:14:40
Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:40:15
As this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Where will those extras appear? Is there a waiting list or will it be first come first served?
FCFS and after the GB has shipped.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:40:57
Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Ordering too lol. Wondering if it's possible to use one of those RGB leds?
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:42:27
If it is a 4 pin led then the pcb would have to support this and I don't think it does.Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Ordering too lol. Wondering if it's possible to use one of those RGB leds?
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Post by: atomicus on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:47:38
As this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Where will those extras appear? Is there a waiting list or will it be first come first served?
FCFS and after the GB has shipped.
Will any available be announced in this thread then? Is this where I should keep an eye out?
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 13:49:37
If it is a 4 pin led then the pcb would have to support this and I don't think it does.Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Ordering too lol. Wondering if it's possible to use one of those RGB leds?
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Aww I see. Getting those SIP sockets so I can change them afterwards i guess.
As this GB is over now, I was curious what kind of time frame there might be before we see another... or is that unlikely?
Jchan stated there will be extras once the GB is all shipped out.
Where will those extras appear? Is there a waiting list or will it be first come first served?
FCFS and after the GB has shipped.
Will any available be announced in this thread then? Is this where I should keep an eye out?
I think he'll announce it here, probably by around May given the current timeframe.
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 25 March 2017, 20:43:30
Still deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Cool, thanks for the link. Ýes exactly, buy cheap buy twice!
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 25 March 2017, 20:45:51
Yep and that happens a lot lot lolStill deciding which switch! :) can anyone recommend where to get a good variety of colors of the 1.8mm LED?I bought my leds at lighthouseleds.com they arrived in a couple days. Ordering leds off of eBay from China always proved to be a coin flip on the brightness of them
(Attachment Link)
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Cool, thanks for the link. Ýes exactly, buy cheap buy twice!
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Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:19:02
(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Post by: naut on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:27:04
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/it774Gj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
I'd like to take over that QMK upgrade if possible.
Post by: h3xadat on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:37:37
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/it774Gj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Hi, I'm interested. PM sent.
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 26 March 2017, 15:25:24
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/it774Gj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Hi, I'm interested. PM sent.
Please make sure to email me - jchan@keyclack.com so I can transfer it to you properly. Thanks.
Post by: h3xadat on Sun, 26 March 2017, 17:13:48
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/it774Gj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Hi, I'm interested. PM sent.
Please make sure to email me - jchan@keyclack.com so I can transfer it to you properly. Thanks.
Hi jchan94, I've sent you an e-mail. Hopefully mindxthinker sent one too ;-)
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 00:20:14
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/it774Gj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWrgDFj.jpg)
Anyone interested in taking over my order?
Got your email. We'll get this taken care of tomorrow.
Hi, I'm interested. PM sent.
Please make sure to email me - jchan@keyclack.com so I can transfer it to you properly. Thanks.
Hi jchan94, I've sent you an e-mail. Hopefully mindxthinker sent one too ;-)
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 27 March 2017, 02:34:06
Post by: _cramil on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:41:21
Dude that's awesome! Let's do thissssNot at all!! I honestly didn't even consider it - but now I definitely want to do it!!Hmm do I sense sarcasm?!?!Really hope there's going to be a separate numpad board produced in this style. Right? ...right.
Wow, why didn't I even think of that!??
JCHAN!?? ;D ;D ;)
Sent from my SM-G928V using TapatalkShow ImageFound in the archives.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/735aaa8a1f89224315f4d537e40788a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/004d3aafb41f6c5c60c77c67c90b900f.jpg)
HAHAHAH that's my work done!
I think it would look quite nice as a numpad :o
I'd be down for one!
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 17:59:18
I've been getting a lot of emails about transferring spots, and picking up partial orders, and getting a small extra, or changing something out.
Unfortunately at this time, since we're about to lock things down, I won't be accepting these requests (except for 1:1 order transfers). I've organized this buy in way to lower logistics by packing everything into boxes before they're shipped to me.
I hope you understand my position, as I'm currently in the middle of an office move and a bunch of other things. So sorry to turn everyone down, but with over 400 people in this group buy, I have to stay organized and we're almost at the end.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 18:10:57
Hi everyone,No worries dude mechmarket it is for the trades!
I've been getting a lot of emails about transferring spots, and picking up partial orders, and getting a small extra, or changing something out.
Unfortunately at this time, since we're about to lock things down, I won't be accepting these requests (except for 1:1 order transfers). I've organized this buy in way to lower logistics by packing everything into boxes before they're shipped to me.
I hope you understand my position, as I'm currently in the middle of an office move and a bunch of other things. So sorry to turn everyone down, but with over 400 people in this group buy, I have to stay organized and we're almost at the end.
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Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 18:57:35
I just cleared up a spot, if anyone is interested.
M65-A-045
- Space Gray
- Silver Aluminum Base
- Brass Plate
- Mousepad
- PCB
- $330 + shipping
Please email me - jchan@keyclack.com :)
Post by: atomicus on Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:00:28
Post by: Perfex on Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:14:51
Post by: atomicus on Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:20:23
After the buy is completed he stated there will be extras based on a first come first serve basis.
Yes, but he's just posted one available above, and he ninja edited one out that did have a nylon base, so maybe that sold or he posted by mistake.
Post by: MiracleMikuru on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:02:18
These are the times i regret not paying as much attention in physics-class as i should have.
I'm guessing I have to get resistors to match my LEDs?
If that is the case, what do I have to look out for?
I am guessing I would need 100 ohm resistors (as afaik USB provides 5V), judging from the table provided on lighthouseleds.com's 1.8mm LED product page.
Is this correct?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:05:17
First time getting LEDs for a build.You won't need resistors as the board will come with them already installed ready to go dude.
These are the times i regret not paying as much attention in physics-class as i should have.
I'm guessing I have to get resistors to match my LEDs?
If that is the case, what do I have to look out for?
I am guessing I would need 100 ohm resistors (as afaik USB provides 5V), judging from the table provided on lighthouseleds.com's 1.8mm LED product page.
Is this correct?
Thanks in advance!
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Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:07:59
First time getting LEDs for a build.
These are the times i regret not paying as much attention in physics-class as i should have.
I'm guessing I have to get resistors to match my LEDs?
If that is the case, what do I have to look out for?
I am guessing I would need 100 ohm resistors (as afaik USB provides 5V), judging from the table provided on lighthouseleds.com's 1.8mm LED product page.
Is this correct?
Thanks in advance!
It depends on the forward voltage and current of the LED. Should be listed on the product page. You can plug those into any of the numerous LED calculators out on the web with your correctly-guessed 5V USB supplied voltage to get an idea of the resistor you'll want.
Some references:
http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2012/resistors-for-leds/
A little lighter reading: https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/219
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:11:57
You won't need resistors as the board will come with them already installed ready to go dude.
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Would be good to get clarification on that, sounds unusual to have resistors provided since they are LED-specific. Diodes, yes, but resistors I think are usually user's-choice.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:13:12
Good point dude I read led compatible and was assuming. Clarification would be goodYou won't need resistors as the board will come with them already installed ready to go dude.
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Would be good to get clarification on that, sounds unusual to have resistors provided since they are LED-specific. Diodes, yes, but resistors I think are usually user's-choice.
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Post by: MiracleMikuru on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:18:10
You won't need resistors as the board will come with them already installed ready to go dude.
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It depends on the forward voltage and current of the LED. Should be listed on the product page. You can plug those into any of the numerous LED calculators out on the web with your correctly-guessed 5V USB supplied voltage to get an idea of the resistor you'll want.
Some references:
http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2012/resistors-for-leds/
A little lighter reading: https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/219
Wow, you guys are fast :eek:
Thank you very much, I'm definitely going to read up on that :thumb:
Post by: kustom3 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:27:32
Good point dude I read led compatible and was assuming. Clarification would be goodYou won't need resistors as the board will come with them already installed ready to go dude.
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Would be good to get clarification on that, sounds unusual to have resistors provided since they are LED-specific. Diodes, yes, but resistors I think are usually user's-choice.
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Considering the PCBs are made by winkeyless.kr my guess would be that our PCB comes with ~820 ohm smd resistors. They also sell 910 and 1320 ohm resistors but they say that 820 ohm resistors work with all colors on 60% style PCBs.
Their resistor page (http://winkeyless.kr/product/chip-resistor-2012-size/) + close up picture of a PCB from winkeyless.kr (https://i2.wp.com/winkeyless.kr/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DSC_2821.jpg).
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:38:11
they say that 820 ohm resistors work with all colors on 60% style PCBs.
I see it on their site, but I don't understand why they claim that. But I'm also far from an EE :))
While we're asking questions about the PCB, what orientation is the USB port? Going to need some cable surgery to get mine to lay nicely if the longer side is up >.>
EDIT: Oh sweet baby jesus yes http://i.imgur.com/Ah8ml5f.jpg
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:20:07
I just want to say... thank you for trusting me with this buy. I'm very hyped for everyone to get it. In the past few weeks, I've been working on a custom box design to make sure these are transported safely from the manufacturer -> me -> to you. I hope you're all excited for it.
Here is a teaser of what you'll get in the mail when it all comes. The exterior of the box will be custom printed as well :). I hope that this box is one of those that you keep in your garage for years to come, and one day in a few years, you magically find it and think back to this moment that you helped make this keyboard happen.
(http://i.imgur.com/BQSB1lY.png)
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:24:44
Just wanted to post some hype-train for this.
OH MAN!!
Post by: RyuDragoon on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:27:48
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:35:02
Just wanted to post some hype-train for this.Dude that's awesome. Going to make unboxing this thing even better and coming from someone who had a board damaged in shipping this makes me feel good.
I just want to say... thank you for trusting me with this buy. I'm very hyped for everyone to get it. In the past few weeks, I've been working on a custom box design to make sure these are transported safely from the manufacturing -> me -> to you. I hope you're all excited for it.
Here is a teaser of what you'll get in the mail when it all comes. The exterior of the box will be custom printed as well :). I hope that this box is one of those that you keep in your garage for years to come, and one day in a few years, you magically find it and think back to this moment that you helped make this keyboard happen.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BQSB1lY.png)
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Post by: aggroxcraig on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:46:09
I hope that this box is one of those that you keep in your garage for years to come, and one day in a few years, you magically find it and think back to this moment that you helped make this keyboard happen.
Oh good. Another box to add to my collection of boxes. The waifu isn't going to be happen about that.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 27 March 2017, 23:08:38
I hope that this box is one of those that you keep in your garage for years to come, and one day in a few years, you magically find it and think back to this moment that you helped make this keyboard happen.
Oh good. Another box to add to my collection of boxes. The waifu isn't going to be happen about that.
haha same.
"We'll need this box for when we move in 5 years"..
"We'll get a new box"..
"yea but it has all this nice Styrofoam in it."
".... ..........."
"Ok we can toss it.. BUT I'M KEEPING THIS OTHER ONE"
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 28 March 2017, 00:02:17
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Tue, 28 March 2017, 01:48:01
OMG you're giving me a hard choice choosing amongst my keyboards. I plan to keep 1-2 out of the M65-A, Duck Viper V2 and my trusty modded hhkb type-s bt with hasu. At the rate this is going, I might end up keeping all 3!
Keeping all 3 is clearly the best solution to this dilemma! ;)
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 28 March 2017, 01:52:08
OMG you're giving me a hard choice choosing amongst my keyboards. I plan to keep 1-2 out of the M65-A, Duck Viper V2 and my trusty modded hhkb type-s bt with hasu. At the rate this is going, I might end up keeping all 3!
Keeping all 3 is clearly the best solution to this dilemma! ;)
RIP wallet and space :p . This is really throwing me into a dilemma - I guess the only way is to actually get the M65-A on hand before deciding. Really interested to see the build quality and such.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 28 March 2017, 08:02:55
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 28 March 2017, 09:16:11
Just wanted to post some hype-train for this.
I just want to say... thank you for trusting me with this buy. I'm very hyped for everyone to get it. In the past few weeks, I've been working on a custom box design to make sure these are transported safely from the manufacturer -> me -> to you. I hope you're all excited for it.
Here is a teaser of what you'll get in the mail when it all comes. The exterior of the box will be custom printed as well :). I hope that this box is one of those that you keep in your garage for years to come, and one day in a few years, you magically find it and think back to this moment that you helped make this keyboard happen.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BQSB1lY.png)
Looks like theres a little extra space for another Top case, feel free to throw a hydro top case in mine to fill it I wont mind I promise!
Post by: rmendis on Tue, 28 March 2017, 16:37:31
Hi everyone,
I just cleared up a spot, if anyone is interested.
M65-A-045
- Space Gray
- Silver Aluminum Base
- Brass Plate
- Mousepad
- PCB
- $330 + shipping
Please email me - jchan@keyclack.com :)
Sent email.
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 March 2017, 17:02:51
Get it mayne!Hi everyone,
I just cleared up a spot, if anyone is interested.
M65-A-045
- Space Gray
- Silver Aluminum Base
- Brass Plate
- Mousepad
- PCB
- $330 + shipping
Please email me - jchan@keyclack.com :)
Sent email.
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Post by: rmendis on Tue, 28 March 2017, 19:18:01
Get it mayne!Hi everyone,
I just cleared up a spot, if anyone is interested.
M65-A-045
- Space Gray
- Silver Aluminum Base
- Brass Plate
- Mousepad
- PCB
- $330 + shipping
Please email me - jchan@keyclack.com :)
Sent email.
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Was too late, bro. =(
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 28 March 2017, 19:18:52
Noooo! There's still time and seems there will be extras too. GLGet it mayne!Hi everyone,
I just cleared up a spot, if anyone is interested.
M65-A-045
- Space Gray
- Silver Aluminum Base
- Brass Plate
- Mousepad
- PCB
- $330 + shipping
Please email me - jchan@keyclack.com :)
Sent email.
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Was too late, bro. =(
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Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 28 March 2017, 22:48:32
Post by: adamcobabe on Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:09:19
Just wondering if the PCB will fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
I was told no.
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:37:35
Just wondering if the PCB will fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true
Nope. I guess you might be able to solder them in there if you really want too. But they wont stay on their on.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:40:40
Just wondering if the PCB will fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true
Nope. I guess you might be able to solder them in there if you really want too. But they wont stay on their on.
Welp, that's not good. What about the QMK board? Will the holes and such have the same dimensions?
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:19:30
Welp, just saw this. I guess the QMK board is a no go too then. :(Just wondering if the PCB will fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
I was told no.
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:37:56
Post by: adamcobabe on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:44:29
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 29 March 2017, 01:22:57
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 03:20:11
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Post by: ectoplasmatic on Wed, 29 March 2017, 03:40:48
Edit: damn autocorrect
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 03:57:52
I'm a novice solderer, if you're anything like me it's gonna be really tough to solder holtites in. I would avoid trying to do that. I tried with a GH60 it did not end well. You could get a used gh60 or other board to practice on... but yeah soldering holtites is... messy. If you do go ahead try to find the thinnest solder and the thinnest pointiest iron tip you can find, that would probably help. You'll also need those "third hand" type clamps to keep the pcb elevated while you have both hands free and keep it level because you don't want to solder them in crooked. Lastly if you are using holtites and want to lube your switches make sure you don't use any thin lube (some people use on springs etc), as this can seep into the leaf and down into the holtites causing switch chatter. Just some random mistakes I made that you can learn from haha.
Edit: damn autocorrect
Thanks for the heads up! I guess I would go with a soldered approach here not that holtites does not work out of the box. Just wondering now if there's any other board that would fit the case as that would be some form of insurance if I screw the first board up!
Post by: testplsignore on Wed, 29 March 2017, 04:38:45
He recently released a set of holtites that are designed to work with his PCBs, maybe they would work with the M65 too?
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 29 March 2017, 05:47:11
Are the PCBs made by the same place that makes them for Winkeyless.kr?
He recently released a set of holtites that are designed to work with his PCBs, maybe they would work with the M65 too?
There is only one "Holtite" socket. Winkeyless did not release their own set of Holtites that are compatible with his PCBs, the current model just happens to work in his PCBs.
Multiple people have reported that Holtites are a very tight fit in the B.face, so it may require extra pressure to get them to sit flush (which may cause some people to snap the PCB).
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 29 March 2017, 06:22:40
Post by: naut on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:12:18
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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Post by: ghostdeini on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:49:12
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BQSB1lY.png)
I'm late to the party here but this packaging is sweet -- very thoughtful and premium design! Can anyone ID the thing 2nd from the right?
Edit: just realized it's the rubber feet. Carry on!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:01:25
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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:P I am an electrical engineer by trade, although it's been quite awhile since I did any soldering. Time to hit the irons again to practice haha
Post by: naut on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:05:49
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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:P I am an electrical engineer by trade, although it's been quite awhile since I did any soldering. Time to hit the irons again to practice haha
;) It'll come back fast then.
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Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:46:44
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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:P I am an electrical engineer by trade, although it's been quite awhile since I did any soldering. Time to hit the irons again to practice haha
;) It'll come back fast then.
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I'd still need more spare PCB's just in case lol. :))
Post by: naut on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:50:34
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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:P I am an electrical engineer by trade, although it's been quite awhile since I did any soldering. Time to hit the irons again to practice haha
;) It'll come back fast then.
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I'd still need more spare PCB's just in case lol. :))
Lol.You can actually order the JC65 pcb's on keyclack.com already.
https://www.keyclack.com/product/jc65-pcb/
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Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:24:41
Neither board is compatible as far as I know.
Oh, that's sad!
Time to practice my soldering skill then...
Hmm... given that soldering is a must, is it possible to use a different PCB with the kit? Otherwise, is it possible to pick up more PCB's for the kit after the gb has shipped? It would suck to spoil the pcb ...
Learn to Solder Kit: Hue
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDTHTAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b682ybHHKNJFE
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:P I am an electrical engineer by trade, although it's been quite awhile since I did any soldering. Time to hit the irons again to practice haha
;) It'll come back fast then.
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I'd still need more spare PCB's just in case lol. :))
Lol.You can actually order the JC65 pcb's on keyclack.com already.
https://www.keyclack.com/product/jc65-pcb/
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Wait whatttt! ;D Thanks again - putting in an order shortly!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:44:32
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:11:54
Just reviewed the dxf file for the pcb - the dimensions of the holes are ~38mm across so it seems to be way larger than the the specifications of the holtites here: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/holtite-series/26789 . Gotta put the solder to the metal again!
.38mm or 38mm? 38mm is definitely wrong....
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:19:21
Just reviewed the dxf file for the pcb - the dimensions of the holes are ~38mm across so it seems to be way larger than the the specifications of the holtites here: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/holtite-series/26789 . Gotta put the solder to the metal again!
.38mm or 38mm? 38mm is definitely wrong....
Interesting, the online DXF viewer gives me 38mm. (http://imgur.com/PPPIqg9) If it's .38mm the holtites might actually work...
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 17:32:49
Just reviewed the dxf file for the pcb - the dimensions of the holes are ~38mm across so it seems to be way larger than the the specifications of the holtites here: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/holtite-series/26789 . Gotta put the solder to the metal again!
.38mm or 38mm? 38mm is definitely wrong....
.38mm would also be wrong, you need more than twice that to fit a Cherry MX switch pin.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 20:10:58
Just reviewed the dxf file for the pcb - the dimensions of the holes are ~38mm across so it seems to be way larger than the the specifications of the holtites here: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/holtite-series/26789 . Gotta put the solder to the metal again!
.38mm or 38mm? 38mm is definitely wrong....
.38mm would also be wrong, you need more than twice that to fit a Cherry MX switch pin.
Yeah, both numbers are weird. I don't have my autocad laptop with me right now as I'm outside, but I'll take a look next week on that to see if the dimensions are that. I also have an order of holtites coming in so hopefully this works with the final product :)
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 20:25:09
Just reviewed the dxf file for the pcb - the dimensions of the holes are ~38mm across so it seems to be way larger than the the specifications of the holtites here: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/holtite-series/26789 . Gotta put the solder to the metal again!
.38mm or 38mm? 38mm is definitely wrong....
.38mm would also be wrong, you need more than twice that to fit a Cherry MX switch pin.
Yeah, both numbers are weird. I don't have my autocad laptop with me right now as I'm outside, but I'll take a look next week on that to see if the dimensions are that. I also have an order of holtites coming in so hopefully this works with the final product :)
Please refer to my last post. This was already solved and I already posted a fact checked sheet from another source as to holtites compatibility. Unless this pcb changes they will not work.
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Post by: imprevade on Thu, 30 March 2017, 14:08:57
Thanks!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 30 March 2017, 16:04:29
What kind of support will we get for the QMK PCB? Will it come flashed with a default layout? Will the QMK repository be updated with matrix, keymaps, config, etc for the M65-A? If so, when?
Thanks!
My guesses:
Assuming that Jack accepts the pull request, the QMK support would likely be done before the PCBs ship. Worst case you'd have to grab a fork of QMK.
Yes. It's almost unheard of for PCBs to go out without a default layout pre-flashed :thumb:
Post by: imprevade on Thu, 30 March 2017, 16:18:53
What kind of support will we get for the QMK PCB? Will it come flashed with a default layout? Will the QMK repository be updated with matrix, keymaps, config, etc for the M65-A? If so, when?
Thanks!
My guesses:
Assuming that Jack accepts the pull request, the QMK support would likely be done before the PCBs ship. Worst case you'd have to grab a fork of QMK.
Yes. It's almost unheard of for PCBs to go out without a default layout pre-flashed :thumb:
Awesome, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I already have QMK forked, and I've been studying it hard—I'm just trying to plan for how much I'll have to do on the back end before I'm able to start using my M65. ;D
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 31 March 2017, 16:39:07
Post by: ghostdeini on Fri, 31 March 2017, 17:42:11
Is the original timeline still accurate by the way? If not, what's the latest?
Jchan posted last week (link) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2387924#msg2387924) that these are expected to come in April, right around the time he is moving to a bigger office space. From a production standpoint, it sounds like they are right on schedule! Choo choo!
Post by: dyoungc on Fri, 31 March 2017, 18:33:50
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 31 March 2017, 19:47:04
Does anyone know if holtites will be compatible with the QMK PCB?
No, as per the discussion a few pages ago. I've also asked jchan directly via discord. No holtites unfortunately. *looks at pack of holtites*
Post by: dyoungc on Fri, 31 March 2017, 23:42:36
Does anyone know if holtites will be compatible with the QMK PCB?
No, as per the discussion a few pages ago. I've also asked jchan directly via discord. No holtites unfortunately. *looks at pack of holtites*
Does that apply to both the standard JC65 PCB by winkeyless as well as the QMK version?
They were designed and manufactured separate from one another, and QMK seems to be pretty new. Does anyone have the QMK PCB specs yet?
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 01 April 2017, 00:01:24
Does anyone know if holtites will be compatible with the QMK PCB?
No, as per the discussion a few pages ago. I've also asked jchan directly via discord. No holtites unfortunately. *looks at pack of holtites*
Does that apply to both the standard JC65 PCB by winkeyless as well as the QMK version?
They were designed and manufactured separate from one another, and QMK seems to be pretty new. Does anyone have the QMK PCB specs yet?
According to the information I've gathered from multiple sides, I think it's both. I asked jchan directly about the qmk pcb. Not entirely sure about the Jc65 but from information from other people here I think it's a no too. If it fits holtites I'd be pretty happy though.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 02 April 2017, 15:33:42
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 03 April 2017, 17:41:56
Figuring something out atm, and am wondering what kind of aluminum does the M65-A use?
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Made with RAMA from RAMA.WORKS, the M65-A is fully reprogrammable, has underglow, allows for backlit LEDs, and features an ALU6061 rigid body frame design.
I just got the production box and the foam is so nice! These will be packed very nicely.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 03 April 2017, 17:49:50
Post by: imprevade on Mon, 03 April 2017, 20:57:59
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 03 April 2017, 21:36:06
I just got the production box and the foam is so nice! These will be packed very nicely.
OMG! Any box design spoilers?
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 04 April 2017, 19:04:13
I just got the production box and the foam is so nice! These will be packed very nicely.
OMG! Any box design spoilers?
Probably will take photos of it tomorrow. Gotta take my m65-a apart to make it look good.
The box uses a lot of foam, and custom cut outs for each part. These will be packed like this from the manufacturer -> to me -> to you.
When I get the shipment, I'll open each box and check the contents to make sure the order is yours, and QC/QA them. Then if its good, pack it into a box and get it out to you :).
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 04 April 2017, 19:43:49
I just got the production box and the foam is so nice! These will be packed very nicely.
OMG! Any box design spoilers?
Probably will take photos of it tomorrow. Gotta take my m65-a apart to make it look good.
The box uses a lot of foam, and custom cut outs for each part. These will be packed like this from the manufacturer -> to me -> to you.
When I get the shipment, I'll open each box and check the contents to make sure the order is yours, and QC/QA them. Then if its good, pack it into a box and get it out to you :).
Sounds great!
Post by: leoparder on Wed, 05 April 2017, 03:08:48
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Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 03:20:11
Dear jchan, I am now with 4 emails unanswered for the qmk. I am still waiting for an updated invoice to pay the 18 usd. Can you please check ? Thank you !
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Can you bump it? Not sure where it is.
Jchan@keyclack.com just in case.
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 06:37:12
Is it possible to get a second switch plate?
Also, like everyone else, the wait is SO worth it for this GB. Thanks Keyclack.com and Rama for all the work put into this GB :thumb:
Post by: rioc on Wed, 05 April 2017, 07:34:06
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 05 April 2017, 09:54:56
weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
2nd'ed ^-^
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 05 April 2017, 09:56:43
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 05 April 2017, 10:45:38
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Post by: imprevade on Wed, 05 April 2017, 11:22:55
For those asking to see what the box looks like, Rama posted a picture of it last week on his Facebook.
They want to see the box, Rama posted a picture of the foam insert.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 05 April 2017, 11:50:22
^+1. So hyped for this still!For those asking to see what the box looks like, Rama posted a picture of it last week on his Facebook.
They want to see the box, Rama posted a picture of the foam insert.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:11:03
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 15:17:27
weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
This should be about right. Please remember I'm moving offices end of April so they might be chilling for a little while!
I hear things are a tad behind, due to the recent holiday in China. The delay should only be up to 4 days. But other than that, I think we should get this tracked to me in about 2 weeks.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 15:41:14
Whoa looks like I need to start ordering switches and stuff.weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
This should be about right. Please remember I'm moving offices end of April so they might be chilling for a little while!
I hear things are a tad behind, due to the recent holiday in China. The delay should only be up to 4 days. But other than that, I think we should get this tracked to me in about 2 weeks.
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Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 05 April 2017, 15:54:33
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:01:31
Whoa looks like I need to start ordering switches and stuff.weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
This should be about right. Please remember I'm moving offices end of April so they might be chilling for a little while!
I hear things are a tad behind, due to the recent holiday in China. The delay should only be up to 4 days. But other than that, I think we should get this tracked to me in about 2 weeks.
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Get with the program, man! Jk, I got switches a month or two back, but I'm going to be waiting on keycaps for quite a while. I'm in the SA 1965 GB, but I'll be missing a 1.75u right shift since I based my order around a full sized board at the time. I really wanted to put GMK Nautilus on this, but that GB hasn't even started yet :(
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:09:34
Lol yea I have some switches at the house I could use but if I don't put zealios in it i will be cheating myselfWhoa looks like I need to start ordering switches and stuff.weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
This should be about right. Please remember I'm moving offices end of April so they might be chilling for a little while!
I hear things are a tad behind, due to the recent holiday in China. The delay should only be up to 4 days. But other than that, I think we should get this tracked to me in about 2 weeks.
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Get with the program, man! Jk, I got switches a month or two back, but I'm going to be waiting on keycaps for quite a while. I'm in the SA 1965 GB, but I'll be missing a 1.75u right shift since I based my order around a full sized board at the time. I really wanted to put GMK Nautilus on this, but that GB hasn't even started yet :(
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Post by: dubious on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:12:43
weeeeeee... is end of April, early May still accurate for shipping?
can't wait to see the awesome box and the awesomer keeb sitting inside it ;D
This should be about right. Please remember I'm moving offices end of April so they might be chilling for a little while!
I hear things are a tad behind, due to the recent holiday in China. The delay should only be up to 4 days. But other than that, I think we should get this tracked to me in about 2 weeks.
this news bodes well for the Exent gb... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:32:25
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 05 April 2017, 21:16:33
I have all my parts ready—just need M65!
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 05 April 2017, 22:34:09
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I have all my parts ready—just need M65!
Gateron greens, nice! what color LEDs?
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 05 April 2017, 23:13:14
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I have all my parts ready—just need M65!
Gateron greens, nice! what color LEDs?
Gold!
Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 06 April 2017, 19:08:39
Post by: rioc on Fri, 07 April 2017, 04:54:07
:D waiting for photos of the packaging!
yeah same, and we're not good at waiting ;P
Post by: kmba on Fri, 07 April 2017, 07:43:21
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 07 April 2017, 12:29:37
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 12:54:23
Is there any recommendations as to which LED's I should get for the underglow and switches? This would be my first build with LED's.Underglow will have smd rgbs already installed. For in switch leds I say get 1.8mm leds. Just pick your color and go with the water clear brightness as the diffused ones I have gotten in the past are pretty terrible
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Post by: geldnite on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:40:42
super upset i missed out on this. :(
Post by: rawrjau on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:36:52
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:43:56
I just sent you a pmMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)
Giving this spot away still, shipping will be different if you don't live in Canada!
Also, you have to get the stuff listed here (JChan says so).
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:51:14
MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)
Giving this spot away still, shipping will be different if you don't live in Canada!
Also, you have to get the stuff listed here (JChan says so).
I'll take your spot. Emailing Jchan now.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:56:11
MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)
Giving this spot away still, shipping will be different if you don't live in Canada!
Also, you have to get the stuff listed here (JChan says so).
Please make sure the transfer is through me, just a heads up. Definitely want to keep orders as they are.
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In other news, I have heard some updates from the manufacturer. We are currently waiting to polish, and PVD the plates. The top piece is in production still.
Lastly, early-mid May ship date looks likely. I got an updated on the manufacturing timeline, and it looks like April is when it'll ship to me for QC/QA and ship out to everyone.
Here are some updated manufacturing photos.
(http://i.imgur.com/eRPrFUc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9pxReDx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MQELEdY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dnCDVP3.jpg)
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 23:01:51
This pleases me.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDtbzHG.png)
Giving this spot away still, shipping will be different if you don't live in Canada!
Also, you have to get the stuff listed here (JChan says so).
Please make sure the transfer is through me, just a heads up. Definitely want to keep orders as they are.
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In other news, I have heard some updates from the manufacturer. We are currently waiting to polish, and PVD the plates. The top piece is in production still.
Lastly, early-mid May ship date looks likely. I got an updated on the manufacturing timeline, and it looks like April is when it'll ship to me for QC/QA and ship out to everyone.
Here are some updated manufacturing photos.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eRPrFUc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9pxReDx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MQELEdY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dnCDVP3.jpg)
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 07 April 2017, 23:07:58
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 08 April 2017, 00:22:04
its gone =P
Okay. I'm not sure what's going on because 6 people emailed me saying they're taking over. So....
I'm going to need the following:
1. Rawrjau send me ALL details for the transaction.
- Original Order Number
- Shipping Address Associated
- Complete Order
- Original Paypal charged
2. Rawrjau to send me the EMAIL whom it is transferring to.
3. The person in which the transfer is going to, to EMAIL me : Paypal Info + Shipping Address. Should be the same email that Rawrjau references.
Other emails will be replied to.
Post by: rawrjau on Sat, 08 April 2017, 01:14:46
its gone =P
Okay. I'm not sure what's going on because 6 people emailed me saying they're taking over. So....
I'm going to need the following:
1. Rawrjau send me ALL details for the transaction.
- Original Order Number
- Shipping Address Associated
- Complete Order
- Original Paypal charged
2. Rawrjau to send me the EMAIL whom it is transferring to.
3. The person in which the transfer is going to, to EMAIL me : Paypal Info + Shipping Address. Should be the same email that Rawrjau references.
Other emails will be replied to.
Okie dokes, sorry thought I could reply to an old chain regarding the transfer. Will have all the info coming up!
Post by: imprevade on Sat, 08 April 2017, 12:19:17
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 08 April 2017, 15:55:17
Post by: ghostdeini on Sat, 08 April 2017, 16:51:19
Here are some updated manufacturing photos.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eRPrFUc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9pxReDx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MQELEdY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dnCDVP3.jpg)
Thank you for the update jchan! It's so cool to see this go from concept to an actual physical product. If you happen to get pics sent to you after the anodizing stage, I'm curious to see those as well!
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 08 April 2017, 17:29:02
There are about 6 transfers or so that are taking place....
I'm going to go through one at a time, so please bear with me. It's getting a tad confusing with people going back and forth to me via email without full details.
Post by: leoparder on Sat, 08 April 2017, 17:37:43
Dear jchan, I am now with 4 emails unanswered for the qmk. I am still waiting for an updated invoice to pay the 18 usd. Can you please check ? Thank you !
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Can you bump it? Not sure where it is.
Jchan@keyclack.com just in case.
I sent you emails asking for answers on :
March 20
March 22
March 24
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you replied asking for my details
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Sent you details on :
March 25
March 30
April 5
No answer :(
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 08 April 2017, 18:02:44
Dear jchan, I am now with 4 emails unanswered for the qmk. I am still waiting for an updated invoice to pay the 18 usd. Can you please check ? Thank you !
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Can you bump it? Not sure where it is.
Jchan@keyclack.com just in case.
I sent you emails asking for answers on :
March 20
March 22
March 24
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you replied asking for my details
-
Sent you details on :
March 25
March 30
April 5
No answer :(
Give me a moment please. You'll get the pcb mate. Im currently moving office stuff.
Post by: camelopardalis on Sun, 09 April 2017, 08:35:12
If anyone else wants to sell their silver + nylon spot, please please please, I will buy it from you (through jchan of course). This is the dreamiest keyboard I've ever seen.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 11 April 2017, 00:27:06
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 11 April 2017, 23:27:33
As we close in on the finish line, I want to thank everyone that has participated in this buy.
In order to help me keep things organized nice and tidy, if you are seeking a transfer, I will simply refund you, and have it available for extras.
Thanks for your understanding, as swapping orders is quite troublesome this late into the group buy.
We're almost there! :D
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 11 April 2017, 23:36:59
Hi everyone,
As we close in on the finish line, I want to thank everyone that has participated in this buy.
In order to help me keep things organized nice and tidy, if you are seeking a transfer, I will simply refund you, and have it available for extras.
Thanks for your understanding, as swapping orders is quite troublesome this late into the group buy.
We're almost there! :D
Welp, in this case please don't refund my order. I'll keep it/work out something afterwards. I've also sent an email to you regarding this, sorry for the trouble!
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 11 April 2017, 23:39:17
Hi everyone,
As we close in on the finish line, I want to thank everyone that has participated in this buy.
In order to help me keep things organized nice and tidy, if you are seeking a transfer, I will simply refund you, and have it available for extras.
Thanks for your understanding, as swapping orders is quite troublesome this late into the group buy.
We're almost there! :D
Welp, in this case please don't refund my order. I'll keep it/work out something afterwards. I've also sent an email to you regarding this, sorry for the trouble!
Are you planning to let go of your order? If you have a Space Grey or Hydro-colored M65-A, I could use an arrangement. :) Cheers~
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 11 April 2017, 23:41:17
Hi everyone,
As we close in on the finish line, I want to thank everyone that has participated in this buy.
In order to help me keep things organized nice and tidy, if you are seeking a transfer, I will simply refund you, and have it available for extras.
Thanks for your understanding, as swapping orders is quite troublesome this late into the group buy.
We're almost there! :D
Welp, in this case please don't refund my order. I'll keep it/work out something afterwards. I've also sent an email to you regarding this, sorry for the trouble!
Are you planning to let go of your order? If you have a Space Grey or Hydro-colored M65-A, I could use an arrangement. :) Cheers~
Nah, I was planning to transfer my order to someone I know originally at cost. In this case I'll just keep the kit as I'll always have space for another kit!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:04:09
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:05:37
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:15:03
Gotcha. ^_^ Glad you're doing it for somebody you know, and at cost. :D
:) It's a closely knit community after all, and I certainly have made quite a few friends from the community!
Post by: rioc on Wed, 12 April 2017, 03:30:56
I'm sorry, I'm just a sucker for nice packaging :p (and also very eager to see that hot package)
Post by: TelFiRE on Wed, 12 April 2017, 03:53:21
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 12 April 2017, 07:09:16
Post by: yokken on Wed, 12 April 2017, 20:54:33
Post by: fishpod on Thu, 13 April 2017, 21:08:11
I can almost smell it!
Thanks for keeping us informed!
Post by: TelFiRE on Thu, 13 April 2017, 22:00:23
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 14 April 2017, 00:37:44
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 17 April 2017, 09:12:30
(shh... not really, I just wanted to get his attention so he would update us with some details on the sandwich case release date) ;)
Post by: crj3012 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:19:27
I have a Space Grey with a nylon base.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:23:43
I'm looking to sell my spot to anyone who is interested.
I have a Space Grey with a nylon base.
I'm interested. Please PM
Post by: crj3012 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:25:31
I'm looking to sell my spot to anyone who is interested.
I have a Space Grey with a nylon base.
I'm interested. Please PM
Someone PMed me right after I posted. If that falls through, I will let you know!
Post by: TelFiRE on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:39:39
I'm just gonna give up on the idea that there might be extras of these that I have a snowball's chance in hell at :(
Post by: crj3012 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:45:06
Duuuuuuude... that was exactly what I wanted...and someone grabbed it right away
I'm just gonna give up on the idea that there might be extras of these that I have a snowball's chance in hell at :(
Sorry buddy. I haven't been following this thread closely and I didn't even look at the most recent comments before making my comment. I will let you know if things fall through.
Post by: fanman888 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 15:06:51
Post by: TelFiRE on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:10:11
Duuuuuuude... that was exactly what I wanted...and someone grabbed it right away
I'm just gonna give up on the idea that there might be extras of these that I have a snowball's chance in hell at :(
Sorry buddy. I haven't been following this thread closely and I didn't even look at the most recent comments before making my comment. I will let you know if things fall through.
It's all good. Just mostly disheartened at how quickly it was snatched up, since it was mentioned there will be extras at the end, but it seems unlikely I will have access to them.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:11:27
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 17 April 2017, 23:48:57
Duuuuuuude... that was exactly what I wanted...and someone grabbed it right away
I'm just gonna give up on the idea that there might be extras of these that I have a snowball's chance in hell at :(
Sorry buddy. I haven't been following this thread closely and I didn't even look at the most recent comments before making my comment. I will let you know if things fall through.
It's all good. Just mostly disheartened at how quickly it was snatched up, since it was mentioned there will be extras at the end, but it seems unlikely I will have access to them.
Not sure why you wouldn't have access, won't they be posted on his site as extras? IIRC jchan said any takeovers would now be handled as refunds and sent to the extras allotment, unless it's dealt with privately. Anyways. Don't give up hope, just keep an eye on the thread and hit up his website when extras go up?
Post by: TelFiRE on Tue, 18 April 2017, 00:22:38
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Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 09:11:01
Just meant low chance of being on at the right time and high chance of them being snatched up right away. But I'll do my best :D it's an awesome board.
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Jchan usually gives a time and date of when extras will open up. So if you plan accordingly you should have a high chance of being on at the right time. Probably still be tough to grab one though.
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Post by: MojoBandit on Wed, 19 April 2017, 07:46:31
I really regret not choosing it since I have seen the pictures.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:25:17
Will there be extra brass plates ?
I really regret not choosing it since I have seen the pictures.
Welcome to the regret bus. Seats are all full though, so you'll have to stand. :p
Post by: aggroxcraig on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:47:09
Will there be extra brass plates ?
I really regret not choosing it since I have seen the pictures.
Welcome to the regret bus. Seats are all full though, so you'll have to stand. :p
*Sits in his luxurious brass plate mansion*
Ha ha ha ha! Look at those peasants.
Post by: atomicus on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:49:15
Post by: sandwichslinger on Thu, 20 April 2017, 13:18:46
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 20 April 2017, 16:06:26
Running through XDA atm, so haven't really paid attention to this thread.
But to clarify a few things:
1. I'll honor the transfer. Just give me a moment as I'm tied up in things currently.
2. There should be a good chunk of extras, with pre-made SKUs (i.e. You'll get it as is).
3. The extras will have a markup value as a package, as these will be immediate units that can go out.
Hope that clarifies everything. Cheers.
And lastly, mousepads should arrive this week, as I just arranged transport for customs.
Post by: crj3012 on Thu, 20 April 2017, 17:05:03
Hi Everyone,
Running through XDA atm, so haven't really paid attention to this thread.
But to clarify a few things:
1. I'll honor the transfer. Just give me a moment as I'm tied up in things currently.
2. There should be a good chunk of extras, with pre-made SKUs (i.e. You'll get it as is).
3. The extras will have a markup value as a package, as these will be immediate units that can go out.
Hope that clarifies everything. Cheers.
And lastly, mousepads should arrive this week, as I just arranged transport for customs.
Hey jchan,
As stated above, you are obviously busy. I just wanted to note that atomicus and I have both emailed you about doing a transfer. I will be transferring my kit to him. Let me know if you need other info from me that wasn't in the email that I sent.
Post by: imprevade on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:17:52
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:27:59
Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Post by: imprevade on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:43:40
Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Oh nothing, I actually quite like the rose gold. It's just that I don't have or plan of getting any key sets that will really go well with it.
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 21 April 2017, 00:06:19
Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Oh nothing, I actually quite like the rose gold. It's just that I don't have or plan of getting any key sets that will really go well with it.
I think GMK Plum would work well with the Rose Gold M65-A.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 00:11:51
Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Oh nothing, I actually quite like the rose gold. It's just that I don't have or plan of getting any key sets that will really go well with it.
I think GMK Plum would work well with the Rose Gold M65-A.
Whenever I think of the gold of the m65a, I always consider 1965 or plum.
I'd probably go towards plum since sa is mucho difficult to type on.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 21 April 2017, 00:48:14
For a golden M65-A, the amazing chocolatier would be amazing I think.Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Oh nothing, I actually quite like the rose gold. It's just that I don't have or plan of getting any key sets that will really go well with it.
I think GMK Plum would work well with the Rose Gold M65-A.
Whenever I think of the gold of the m65a, I always consider 1965 or plum.
I'd probably go towards plum since sa is mucho difficult to type on.
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:58:55
For a golden M65-A, the amazing chocolatier would be amazing I think.Still looking to take over someone's order, as long as it's not rose gold.
hey! that's what I got! What's wrong with rose gold :-[
Oh nothing, I actually quite like the rose gold. It's just that I don't have or plan of getting any key sets that will really go well with it.
I think GMK Plum would work well with the Rose Gold M65-A.
Whenever I think of the gold of the m65a, I always consider 1965 or plum.
I'd probably go towards plum since sa is mucho difficult to type on.
Yeah, I was saying rose gold (or pink, if you will.)
If I had a rose gold M65, GMK Plum would absolutely be a must have set. I just don't have an interest in either.
On the champagne M65 that I'm getting, I'll be using Amazing Chocolatier—and it'll look like this;
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Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:19:40
Yeah, I was saying rose gold (or pink, if you will.)
If I had a rose gold M65, GMK Plum would absolutely be a must have set. I just don't have an interest in either.
On the champagne M65 that I'm getting, I'll be using Amazing Chocolatier—and it'll look like this;
(Attachment Link)
That looks gorgeous. Can't wait for you to get it and post actual pics.
Post by: blackginger on Fri, 21 April 2017, 13:26:58
Can you confirm if the Keyclack DIY USB cables work for this keyboard? The opening for the micro USB in the case looks like it could be tight with the DIY micro USB connector.
Cheers
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 21 April 2017, 15:50:49
Hi Jchan,
Can you confirm if the Keyclack DIY USB cables work for this keyboard? The opening for the micro USB in the case looks like it could be tight with the DIY micro USB connector.
Cheers
****. I just ordered a DIY mini usb..
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 21 April 2017, 20:27:40
Hi Jchan,Alternate USB connectors are plentiful, I'd recommend trying it before you assemble the cable and then getting a different connector if it doesn't fit.
Can you confirm if the Keyclack DIY USB cables work for this keyboard? The opening for the micro USB in the case looks like it could be tight with the DIY micro USB connector.
Cheers
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 22 April 2017, 05:11:57
Hi Jchan,
Can you confirm if the Keyclack DIY USB cables work for this keyboard? The opening for the micro USB in the case looks like it could be tight with the DIY micro USB connector.
Cheers
****. I just ordered a DIY mini usb..
I asked him recently too, he told me it's Mini so you're fine.
Post by: Perfex on Sat, 22 April 2017, 07:42:04
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 21:47:37
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOee
(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 21:53:05
Anyone like boxes?
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOeeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
Something tells me people are going to post unboxing videos just because of that box and its foam. Looking good!
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 22:16:21
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Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 23 April 2017, 23:31:33
Anyone like boxes?
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOeeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
HYPE! :p
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 23:48:47
We have a ship date of 4/31 from manufacturer to me.
Then after that, qc, qa, and then mass shipment.
So close!
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 24 April 2017, 00:08:35
In other news,
We have a ship date of 4/31 from manufacturer to me.
Then after that, qc, qa, and then mass shipment.
So close!
April 31st? Is that a round about way of saying it will never be shipped? :))
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 00:10:52
In other news,
We have a ship date of 4/31 from manufacturer to me.
Then after that, qc, qa, and then mass shipment.
So close!
April 31st? Is that a round about way of saying it will never be shipped? :))
Rip, I meant 4/30, haha.
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 24 April 2017, 00:31:11
Anyone like boxes?
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOeeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
That box is pretty tight. I wish I had the funds for this and the Exent but my wallet said I could only get 1. :(
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 24 April 2017, 01:28:25
probably SA oblivion or /dev/tty/.
or both...
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 03:03:41
Anyone like boxes?
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOeeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
DAMN
Post by: rioc on Mon, 24 April 2017, 04:25:16
Anyone like boxes?
M65a box https://imgur.com/a/WBOeeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mYbS7f8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Ibwxku.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Rvciwpj.jpg)
DAM SON!
so much need & want going on right now... :D
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Mon, 24 April 2017, 04:26:21
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 08:40:06
I'm getting so RIP'ed by customs with fancy packaging like that! What's wrong with a dented brown box :D
"Our customs form here says this is only a $50 package, but look at that f**king amazing box, that thing alone is $50! This guy must be up to something"
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 24 April 2017, 08:51:46
Drugs, definitely drugsI'm getting so RIP'ed by customs with fancy packaging like that! What's wrong with a dented brown box :D
"Our customs form here says this is only a $50 package, but look at that f**king amazing box, that thing alone is $50! This guy must be up to something"
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Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 24 April 2017, 09:37:55
Amazing attention to detail, jchan94!
Post by: yokken on Mon, 24 April 2017, 22:06:13
In other news,
We have a ship date of 4/31 from manufacturer to me.
Then after that, qc, qa, and then mass shipment.
So close!
When do you think you'll have extras available? I'd really love to get a brass plate (and possibly even aluminum case) but since the orders have been finalized I'd like to pick one up after the fact if possible. The packaging looks amazing, by the way.
Post by: phutro on Tue, 25 April 2017, 13:41:22
EDIT: Nylon, not acrylic.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 16:52:13
In other news,
We have a ship date of 4/31 from manufacturer to me.
Then after that, qc, qa, and then mass shipment.
So close!
When do you think you'll have extras available? I'd really love to get a brass plate (and possibly even aluminum case) but since the orders have been finalized I'd like to pick one up after the fact if possible. The packaging looks amazing, by the way.
After the group buy.
Is there a chance of extra acrylic bottoms being made available for purchase later? Sadly, too late I now really want one along with the grey bottom. Anyone have an extra acrylic they no longer want?
There are a few extra made. Also, it is nylon, not acrylic.
Post by: atomicus on Tue, 25 April 2017, 16:53:53
Have you been getting my emails jchan? I have sent you several.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 16:56:25
Have you been getting my emails jchan? I have sent you several.
Not sure what email you're referring to. I get about 50 emails every day.
Post by: atomicus on Tue, 25 April 2017, 16:58:44
Have you been getting my emails jchan? I have sent you several.
Not sure what email you're referring to. I get about 50 emails every day.
In reference to the order takeover from crj3012 which I'd agreed with him on. He also emailed you about it.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:01:08
Have you been getting my emails jchan? I have sent you several.
Not sure what email you're referring to. I get about 50 emails every day.
In reference to the order takeover from crj3012 which I'd agreed with him on. He also emailed you about it.
Give me a moment to reply. I still haven't read it.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:02:30
Please note that any new transfers will be sent to the "extras" lot, and not transferred.
We're way to close to the end, and doing transfers is a little time tedious at the moment.
Thanks!
Post by: atomicus on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:02:50
Have you been getting my emails jchan? I have sent you several.
Not sure what email you're referring to. I get about 50 emails every day.
In reference to the order takeover from crj3012 which I'd agreed with him on. He also emailed you about it.
Give me a moment to reply. I still haven't read it.
Sure no problem, just checking in case had ended up in your spam box or something. Thanks. :)
Post by: atomicus on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:05:28
Also,
Please note that any new transfers will be sent to the "extras" lot, and not transferred.
We're way to close to the end, and doing transfers is a little time tedious at the moment.
Thanks!
Well I'm not sure on the process your end exactly, but fire me over Paypal invoice and I can pay immediately, no tedium at all. Is it that much of a problem? I did agree with crj.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:06:29
Also,
Please note that any new transfers will be sent to the "extras" lot, and not transferred.
We're way to close to the end, and doing transfers is a little time tedious at the moment.
Thanks!
Well I'm not sure on the process your end exactly, but fire me over Paypal invoice and I can pay immediately, no tedium at all. Is it that much of a problem?
When you have 400 orders, and a bunch of people trying to transfer, ask for extras, and ask an update on xda, and other things, you can see how I'm on a time crunch.
Just trying to save time, and get it to the people who are sticking it out for the buy, and have been supporting this keyboard since the beginning
edit: also trying to move offices by Friday to 30+ miles away.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:32:02
Post by: atomicus on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:33:53
When you have 400 orders, and a bunch of people trying to transfer, ask for extras, and ask an update on xda, and other things, you can see how I'm on a time crunch.
Just trying to save time, and get it to the people who are sticking it out for the buy, and have been supporting this keyboard since the beginning
edit: also trying to move offices by Friday to 30+ miles away.
No problem, understood.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:50:55
When you have 400 orders, and a bunch of people trying to transfer, ask for extras, and ask an update on xda, and other things, you can see how I'm on a time crunch.
Just trying to save time, and get it to the people who are sticking it out for the buy, and have been supporting this keyboard since the beginning
edit: also trying to move offices by Friday to 30+ miles away.
No problem, understood.
Thanks for all your effort jchan. Much appreciated and i can't wait to get this sexy ass board in already :p
Cheers! Almost there :).Can't wait to get these out. Should go out to me in 7 days or so.
Post by: yokken on Tue, 25 April 2017, 19:39:46
Is there a chance of extra nylon bottoms being made available for purchase later? Sadly, too late I now really want one along with the grey bottom. Anyone have an extra nylon base they no longer want?
EDIT: Nylon, not acrylic.
If you're willing to trade the aluminum base with me, I'll send you my nylon base along with $40 to cover the price difference and shipping. Shoot me a PM if you're interested!
Post by: joshuaauger on Tue, 25 April 2017, 22:14:39
Thanks.
J
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 22:19:58
jchan, is there any chance that there will be extras? I had completely forgot about this GB and have been watching for the past month waiting to see if I heard anything.
Thanks.
J
Extras are available after the group buy ships, at FCFS. But only after the bulk buy ships.
Post by: joshuaauger on Tue, 25 April 2017, 22:35:18
Thanks
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 22:42:49
jchan, will they be up on keyclack or here? I understand the FCFS, I'll try my best to be first ;)
Thanks
They will be on the new keyclack website (once we transition to the new one).
It should be available for immediate shipment sometime in May.
Post by: marre259 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:56:05
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:58:34
Will people in the group buy be able to swap colors before the extras go on sale?I'd like to know that as well
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 26 April 2017, 09:29:23
Post by: xondat on Wed, 26 April 2017, 09:30:40
I feel like every time someone asks a question my keyboard is going to ship one day later.
Isn't that how all group buys work?
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 09:37:30
Will people in the group buy be able to swap colors before the extras go on sale?
The amount of emails jchan would have to sift through of people asking to switch and then having to redo stock of all the switches to make sure the aftermarket stock is completely correct. and the inevitable emails from people saying "hey so id like to switch my case color but could i also switch to a brass plate", would just be way to much. I couldn't see this as feasible without him having to delay the group buy shipment, which to me isn't okay for that reason. If your color preferances have changed since you started the group buy either try to set up a swap with someone else that is looking for a different color, or attempt to buy the color you want fcfs and then sell the other board.
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 26 April 2017, 09:46:05
Will people in the group buy be able to swap colors before the extras go on sale?
The amount of emails jchan would have to sift through of people asking to switch and then having to redo stock of all the switches to make sure the aftermarket stock is completely correct. and the inevitable emails from people saying "hey so id like to switch my case color but could i also switch to a brass plate", would just be way to much. I couldn't see this as feasible without him having to delay the group buy shipment, which to me isn't okay for that reason. If your color preferances have changed since you started the group buy either try to set up a swap with someone else that is looking for a different color, or attempt to buy the color you want fcfs and then sell the other board.
I feel the same way. If you didn't order what you wanted, it's too late to change it. Just handle it after the groupbuy; there's a much higher chance of things getting delayed or shipped wrong with so many changes to orders than if you handle it person to person afterwards.
My $0.02.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 10:09:46
I feel like every time someone asks a question my keyboard is going to ship one day later.This so much. Lol.
Edit: There's about to be a lot of these in the wild soon. A simple mm post will probably get you what you are looking for as far as trades go.
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Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 26 April 2017, 11:05:19
I feel like every time someone asks a question my keyboard is going to ship one day later.This so much. Lol.
Edit: There's about to be a lot of these in the wild soon. A simple mm post will probably get you what you are looking for as far as trades go.
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Honestly jchan should just cut off all changes in invoices now and let the aftermarket handle any changing of hands.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 26 April 2017, 21:27:12
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 21:35:52
I'll read through it after dinner and see what is up.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:54:26
Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 27 April 2017, 15:25:46
Post by: ghostdeini on Thu, 27 April 2017, 21:54:18
I'd love to see a photo of the shipment pallet when it arrives, like you guys did for Hydro!
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 23:23:59
Glad everyone is hyped. It's been a long week.
Hope to get everyone processed soon. I'm already talking to the manufacturer about bulk production and working internal logistics. So far, working off of the Google doc has been way better to organize this buy, but we'll build for the future in our next crazy purchase.
If you think about it, there were an insane number of skus possible.
6 top colors, 7 base choices, 2 plate material choices, optional 6 base addons, and optional Mousepads.
Get hyped. Working hard towards our mid April delivery. Will keep everyone updated as we work towards that.
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Thanks for supporting the M65, and this collaboration between Rama and I. We've been working at this since September and it's been a long time coming.
Time to go to sleep now... It's 2am and I slept at 5am last night. Have a good day wherever you are in the world ;)
Congratulations! Now I'm looking forward to hear something about the sandwich case :thumb:
I was going to go forward with that case, but then decided that it isn't that awesome. Instead, I have an acrylic case being made right now, and I'll show it off when it is ready. But that's for a future time. It's currently being prototyped.
I thought maybe its time to get some nice plate colors, so I chose pink, mint, cyan, and purple for the plates :).
Post by: atomicus on Sat, 29 April 2017, 04:20:37
I was going to go forward with that case, but then decided that it isn't that awesome. Instead, I have an acrylic case being made right now, and I'll show it off when it is ready. But that's for a future time. It's currently being prototyped.
I thought maybe its time to get some nice plate colors, so I chose pink, mint, cyan, and purple for the plates :).
Sounds amazing, can't wait to see that! Will it incorporate the same PCB as the M65-A then?
Post by: Hydra04 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 09:05:21
Glad everyone is hyped. It's been a long week.
Hope to get everyone processed soon. I'm already talking to the manufacturer about bulk production and working internal logistics. So far, working off of the Google doc has been way better to organize this buy, but we'll build for the future in our next crazy purchase.
If you think about it, there were an insane number of skus possible.
6 top colors, 7 base choices, 2 plate material choices, optional 6 base addons, and optional Mousepads.
Get hyped. Working hard towards our mid April delivery. Will keep everyone updated as we work towards that.
Just an FYI, I will be moving offices during this time, so there may be a slight delay with all of this. Such is life, as we move onto bigger and better things.
Thanks for supporting the M65, and this collaboration between Rama and I. We've been working at this since September and it's been a long time coming.
Time to go to sleep now... It's 2am and I slept at 5am last night. Have a good day wherever you are in the world ;)
Congratulations! Now I'm looking forward to hear something about the sandwich case :thumb:
I was going to go forward with that case, but then decided that it isn't that awesome. Instead, I have an acrylic case being made right now, and I'll show it off when it is ready. But that's for a future time. It's currently being prototyped.
I thought maybe its time to get some nice plate colors, so I chose pink, mint, cyan, and purple for the plates :).
I'm looking forward to this case!
How far is this "future time"? ;D
Post by: Citizen404 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 11:43:35
Lurker here. Was wondering if you could help me out with the delivery dates as I am moving back to South Korea on May 17th. :)
Best
SeungRyul
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 29 April 2017, 12:53:08
Hey Jchan,
Lurker here. Was wondering if you could help me out with the delivery dates as I am moving back to South Korea on May 17th. :)
Best
SeungRyul
Email him as he says this is the best way to reach him jchan@keyclack.com. Also, be sure to put your order number in the subject line. You may have already done that, just offering a recommendation.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 05:32:58
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 14:14:32
Got any pics to revive my hype? I'm getting a bit bored...
Thing should ship in 1-2 weeks and then your hype will be revived!
Post by: Citizen404 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 19:14:43
Hey Jchan,
Lurker here. Was wondering if you could help me out with the delivery dates as I am moving back to South Korea on May 17th. :)
Best
SeungRyul
Email him as he says this is the best way to reach him jchan@keyclack.com. Also, be sure to put your order number in the subject line. You may have already done that, just offering a recommendation.
Yup already did that! Thanks for the suggestion :D
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 18:34:28
I keep hoping back and forth between which set will be used on the matte black board.
Edit: I asked for an update on everything, but it seems like chinese labor day has taken all communication down to everyone in China. We should hear back shortly and hopefully tomorrow. In other news, I finalized my office move. Just got some cleanup and work-flow optimization to do now.
Full album by b1g_bird on reddit - http://imgur.com/a/RpWAQ
(http://i.imgur.com/VW0QaDQ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/lBz4dLe.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6LzJzK6.png)
Post by: kustom3 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 19:10:16
[...]
I keep hoping back and forth between which set will be used on the matte black board.
[...]
I'm almost glad I'm not the only one struggling! I was seriously tempted by GMK Laser but the last set of renders turned out to be disappointing to me. I dig Miami Dolch's colorway but not SP's DSA.
Nowadays I'm mostly tempted by a black on dark grey PBT set or something OG to match one of my Goupil (http://i.imgur.com/oRmUndR.jpg) keyboards.
Post by: Mr_Grandis on Mon, 01 May 2017, 21:35:30
Sorry for the stupid question
Post by: joshuaauger on Mon, 01 May 2017, 21:39:50
I have just registered on geekhack not long ago and I just found this keyboard recently! I am really interested in the M65A but I was too late to join the groupbuy on time, I would like to know are there any methods to join the buy now?
Sorry for the stupid question
If you look just one page back you can see that if/when there are extras for sale they will sell on jchan's site.
Post by: obviouslygene on Tue, 02 May 2017, 02:34:14
[...]
I keep hoping back and forth between which set will be used on the matte black board.
[...]
I'm almost glad I'm not the only one struggling! I was seriously tempted by GMK Laser but the last set of renders turned out to be disappointing to me. I dig Miami Dolch's colorway but not SP's DSA.
Nowadays I'm mostly tempted by a black on dark grey PBT set or something OG to match one of my Goupil (http://i.imgur.com/oRmUndR.jpg) keyboards.
also glad im not the only matte black board struggling too!
looking at oblivion or /dev/tty but miami dolch looks pretty damn good too.
Post by: wongie on Tue, 02 May 2017, 02:37:50
Thesiscamper made some renders with M65A and DSA Miami Dolch. Definitely a cool set that's been waiting a long time to make it out, so definitely check it out.
I keep hoping back and forth between which set will be used on the matte black board.
Edit: I asked for an update on everything, but it seems like chinese labor day has taken all communication down to everyone in China. We should hear back shortly and hopefully tomorrow. In other news, I finalized my office move. Just got some cleanup and work-flow optimization to do now.
Full album by b1g_bird on reddit - http://imgur.com/a/RpWAQShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VW0QaDQ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lBz4dLe.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6LzJzK6.png)
Been looking forward to seeing a matte black render. Now I'm stuck over whether to get a black instead of grey for my second board :-\
Post by: rioc on Tue, 02 May 2017, 03:24:01
Thesiscamper made some renders with M65A and DSA Miami Dolch. Definitely a cool set that's been waiting a long time to make it out, so definitely check it out.
I keep hoping back and forth between which set will be used on the matte black board.
Edit: I asked for an update on everything, but it seems like chinese labor day has taken all communication down to everyone in China. We should hear back shortly and hopefully tomorrow. In other news, I finalized my office move. Just got some cleanup and work-flow optimization to do now.
Full album by b1g_bird on reddit - http://imgur.com/a/RpWAQShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VW0QaDQ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lBz4dLe.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6LzJzK6.png)
Been looking forward to seeing a matte black render. Now I'm stuck over whether to get a black instead of grey for my second board :-\
I'd be all over this set, if it weren't for GMK Laser...
I'd prefer the Laser in DSA Profile, but the Laser colours are just so striking
Post by: kmba on Tue, 02 May 2017, 07:24:47
Post by: rioc on Tue, 02 May 2017, 07:26:22
There's a good chance the final colors won't be as electrically neon as the renders.. I'd bank on it.
true, but it's still got me due to the GITS novelties and hiragana...
Post by: Mr_Grandis on Tue, 02 May 2017, 08:07:52
I must be blind to miss that info on the last page, thanks for reminding me :)I have just registered on geekhack not long ago and I just found this keyboard recently! I am really interested in the M65A but I was too late to join the groupbuy on time, I would like to know are there any methods to join the buy now?
Sorry for the stupid question
If you look just one page back you can see that if/when there are extras for sale they will sell on jchan's site.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 02:40:56
Hi everyone,
About 10 days ago, I got an update from the manufacturer stating that the shipment would be ready approximately 4/30/17.
Unfortunately, the shipment is not ready, but is just about to finish anodizing. The manufacturer has told me that, in order to keep the quality to our collective standards, we will need to add a few days to QC, and then sort everything.
But what is sorting?
- Packaging assembly
- Top Piece
- Base Piece
- Rubber Feet
- Screws
- Plate
- Weight
So when is it shipping out to Keyclack
The manufacturer has informed me that shipping will occur 5/12/17.
But when do I (the participant) receive it?
Well, shipping might be a tad difficult. The box is approximately (these are just measurements I have in my head) 12 x 8 x 6 inches each. Times that by 400 or so, and I think we have.... if my math is correct: Really Big. So it'll take a while to get here, on top of sorting through it.
Realistically, and not optimistically, you'll get it in June.
Okay, so what can I (the participant) do now?
If you'd like to get a refund. That is completely fine. I understand, and that is not an issue. Please email your order number (starts with M65A) + email + shipping address to support@keyclack.com ;
June is so far away though
Yes it is. And I'm very sorry, as I've tried my best to keep things up to speed. And I'm actually glad to say that this buy has lasted approximately 14 weeks (after payment period ended).
Lastly
If you have any concerns, please email me at support@keyclack.com and I'll respond when I get the chance. Oh, and extras are available after the group buy ships.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 03 May 2017, 02:50:01
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 03 May 2017, 02:55:02
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 02:55:39
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 02:59:43
In any case, I have also emailed every participant I have on file to help spread the news.
Cheers and have a good night everyone.
Post by: kacase on Wed, 03 May 2017, 03:07:01
And even if the board arrives in July, that would be really fast in my opinion... especially for a custom!
Other group buys take years to complete! (not looking at you 7bit :)))
Thanks for running this JChan keep up the good work!
Post by: rioc on Wed, 03 May 2017, 03:11:29
and then sometime later this year the skog... what an expensive year this is regarding the keysets already bought and to come too
Post by: joshuaauger on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:03:00
If anyone is even CONSIDERING a refund, and seriously who would, let me know first I'll probably take your spot off your hands ;)
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:13:57
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:26:59
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:34:22
If someone has a Rose Gold one and wants a refund I'll take it off ya ;)
At this time jchan is no longer doing transfers, only refunds which will then go into retail stock.
Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:42:06
Never once did I think this is taking too long.
Post by: Asbrodeus on Wed, 03 May 2017, 06:27:38
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 03 May 2017, 08:40:25
If someone has a Rose Gold one and wants a refund I'll take it off ya ;)
At this time jchan is no longer doing transfers, only refunds which will then go into retail stock.
Yeap I know that, I'm in for a one originally, figured I'd indicate my interest for a second one :)
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Wed, 03 May 2017, 10:19:21
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 10:28:53
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Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 12:55:19
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 03 May 2017, 12:56:36
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Is there a rose gold amongst the new extras?
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 12:58:00
Lol autocorrect. Very much appreciatedThanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
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Post by: imprevade on Wed, 03 May 2017, 12:59:05
Looks like we have a few more extras now.
The silver lining.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:00:17
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Is there a rose gold amongst the new extras?
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:03:11
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
Hows about you send me an invoice for that silver boy. ;)
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:05:08
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
Hows about you send me an invoice for that silver boy. ;)
I already got a Space Gray on the way. I would totally take that Matte Black after seeing those renders!
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:15:48
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
I was really hoping for a blue top to be available, oh well. :(
Post by: TelFiRE on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:21:36
Quote
Space Gray
*Fidgeting intensifies*
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:13:01
June is so far away though
Yes it is. And I'm very sorry, as I've tried my best to keep things up to speed. And I'm actually glad to say that this buy has lasted approximately 14 weeks (after payment period ended).
What?! It's next month! I feel like we just paid. This is probably one of the quickest groupbuys I've joined. You doing great.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:17:33
Post by: rioc on Wed, 03 May 2017, 15:56:16
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Is there a rose gold amongst the new extras?
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
those extras will be purchasable via the new site I guess?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 16:36:10
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Is there a rose gold amongst the new extras?
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
those extras will be purchasable via the new site I guess?
Correct. The store infrastructure will deploy sometime this month.
Post by: ghostdeini on Wed, 03 May 2017, 17:08:26
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 04 May 2017, 03:36:07
Post by: KINGPIN on Thu, 04 May 2017, 05:34:50
Post by: Lleiwynn on Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:43:00
Post by: kitchenace13 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 08:48:27
- I believe you can use extra keys from the numberpad & 10-key as a temporary solution? Has anyone tried/done this?
- Other than Oblivion, are there any GMK sets out already with blanks that fit similarly?
- Any other cherry profile solutions out there that someone might recommend?
Thanks a bunch!
Post by: ectoplasmatic on Fri, 05 May 2017, 09:14:05
- Any other cherry profile solutions out there that someone might recommend?
Maybe GMK 'Terminal'? It's on pre-order and can still be bought for a premium on the GB.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 09:22:09
The M65A supports split spacebar and I really want to try this configuration. That being said I've gone 100% GMK profile and so-far I haven't really seen blank keycaps that are designed to fit (other than GMK Oblivion which is still in GB stage). Questions for the folks out there:
- I believe you can use extra keys from the numberpad & 10-key as a temporary solution? Has anyone tried/done this?
- Other than Oblivion, are there any GMK sets out already with blanks that fit similarly?
- Any other cherry profile solutions out there that someone might recommend?
Thanks a bunch!
You could just use the extra 2.25u shift and the 2.75u shift that you get as a leftover from using the 1.75u right shift for the spacebar.
Many GMK sets come with the extra 2.25u shift for 660 compatibility.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:47:46
You could just use the extra 2.25u shift and the 2.75u shift that you get as a leftover from using the 1.75u right shift for the spacebar.
Many GMK sets come with the extra 2.25u shift for 660 compatibility.
So like this? http://imgur.com/gallery/5QyxzSy
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:56:17
You could just use the extra 2.25u shift and the 2.75u shift that you get as a leftover from using the 1.75u right shift for the spacebar.
Many GMK sets come with the extra 2.25u shift for 660 compatibility.
So like this? http://imgur.com/gallery/5QyxzSy
The 2.25u shift would go to the right side, but yes, that's the general idea behind it.
Post by: kmba on Fri, 05 May 2017, 16:48:29
You could just use the extra 2.25u shift and the 2.75u shift that you get as a leftover from using the 1.75u right shift for the spacebar.
Many GMK sets come with the extra 2.25u shift for 660 compatibility.
So like this? http://imgur.com/gallery/5QyxzSy
and sometimes people flip them over because they're not convex, and the edge is sharp on your thumb.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76485.0;attach=115486;image)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:27:08
You could just use the extra 2.25u shift and the 2.75u shift that you get as a leftover from using the 1.75u right shift for the spacebar.
Many GMK sets come with the extra 2.25u shift for 660 compatibility.
So like this? http://imgur.com/gallery/5QyxzSy
and sometimes people flip them over because they're not convex, and the edge is sharp on your thumb.Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76485.0;attach=115486;image)
Just a side note, we'll have XDA sets available so that people can use the split spacebar. They are convex caps as well.
But I still prefer GMK > XDA ; so I'm going to change my M65-A again soon.
Post by: Citizen404 on Sun, 07 May 2017, 03:56:05
Thanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Just sent you an email at the support one! Hopefully I am not too late :(
Post by: Shados on Sun, 07 May 2017, 21:43:07
The M65A supports split spacebar and I really want to try this configuration. That being said I've gone 100% GMK profile and so-far I haven't really seen blank keycaps that are designed to fit (other than GMK Oblivion which is still in GB stage). Questions for the folks out there:
- I believe you can use extra keys from the numberpad & 10-key as a temporary solution? Has anyone tried/done this?
- Other than Oblivion, are there any GMK sets out already with blanks that fit similarly?
- Any other cherry profile solutions out there that someone might recommend?
Thanks a bunch!
GMK Carbon shipped an addon orange spacebar kit that included split spacebar support (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/30982). Maybe look for that on the aftermarket?
Post by: purrito on Sun, 07 May 2017, 23:29:20
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Post by: kitchenace13 on Mon, 08 May 2017, 10:46:58
GMK Carbon shipped an addon orange spacebar kit that included split spacebar support (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/30982). Maybe look for that on the aftermarket?
Thanks so much!
Post by: Mr_Grandis on Mon, 08 May 2017, 13:55:36
I will keep the Keyclack tab open in my browser to remind me to go grab one of the M65A once it's available. :DThanks for the update. Not hopping off this ship though and updates are very Uchiha appreciated. Seems you guys are doing this the right way which is very exciting. Thanks!
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Uchiha? I'm confused what Naruto has to do with this :p
In any case, all emails have been responded to. Looks like we have a few more extras now.
Is there a rose gold amongst the new extras?
Only reporting the top piece:
Matte black
Space Gray
Space Gray
Silver
Rose Gold
those extras will be purchasable via the new site I guess?
Correct. The store infrastructure will deploy sometime this month.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 09 May 2017, 20:04:36
If anyone else would like to cancel, please email support@keyclack.com with full order information (shipping, paypal address, order number) to confirm your order and get a refund.
Cheers!
Post by: libertycannon on Tue, 09 May 2017, 20:09:16
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 10 May 2017, 05:26:45
Post by: libertycannon on Wed, 10 May 2017, 11:39:23
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 10 May 2017, 12:00:52
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
Post by: robbles on Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:14:47
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
[PSA]Do Not Support KeyClack
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:21:25
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
[PSA]Do Not Support KeyClack
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 10 May 2017, 16:23:03
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
[PSA]Do Not Support KeyClack
:'( :'( :'( :'(
I love being ripped off, I gotchu fam.
Post by: commandlinedesign on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:12:06
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
[PSA]Do Not Support KeyClack
Why not?
Post by: kmba on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:18:09
Post by: _cramil on Wed, 10 May 2017, 20:26:48
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 10 May 2017, 21:19:39
Was really hoping to be putting SA1965 on mine, now i gotta figure out what to put on a champagne M65 for the next year while we wait for SP to pull their heads out of their ass lol :rolleyes: >:D
Last I read, SA 1965 was delayed again, but I never saw a new shipping date :(
I think I want to put an SA set on my space grey, but I'm not sure 1965 will quite go with it. Not sure what set would, and I'll have to wait a million years for one. I'll probably have to go with a GMK set.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 10 May 2017, 22:08:57
Post by: robbles on Wed, 10 May 2017, 22:15:23
whose impatient enough to refund this late into the run? Well i guess that means just more chances i get snag one :P
Uhhhh.... this keyboard is a ripoff. Especially the space gray one. The most horrific ripoff, is the space gray with all the trimmings. Please refund for your own sake. I am so horrified by the extent of this ripoff, I would even go as far as to put my name in the victims place.
You should open a PSA in the Keyboards section about it :))
[PSA]Do Not Support KeyClack
Why not?
It was a meta joke referencing a thread that has been blowing up in Keyboards. I won't link it here because I don't want to spread the cancer. But for the record...
[PSA]Do Support KeyClack If You Like Their Stuff
I like their stuff and I didn't even get in on the M65-A. That's just free advertisement for you jchan :thumb:
Post by: childofthehorn on Thu, 11 May 2017, 15:57:10
Most of my keysets I use often have color schemes that go great with Pink (or are pink).
If someone who got Rose Gold would like to trade for Space Grey after jchan has shipped out, let me know.
Or jchan if you have any Rose Gold top plate extras I could buy!
Post by: yokken on Thu, 11 May 2017, 16:05:55
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 11 May 2017, 21:16:39
I have a Space Gray and now Kinda Wishing that I had gotten a Rose Gold..... which was my initial Thought but then I was thinking of keysets.
Most of my keysets I use often have color schemes that go great with Pink (or are pink).
If someone who got Rose Gold would like to trade for Space Grey after jchan has shipped out, let me know.
Or jchan if you have any Rose Gold top plate extras I could buy!
If you wanted hydro blue... I was actually wanting to trade my blue for space grey (trying to go neutral/beige for endgame stuff now)
If anybody's got a space grey w/ silver or space grey bottom, hmu. I have acrylic bottom but ill pay the difference for a metal bottom
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 00:57:41
I know I've asked about extras a few times but to piggyback on childofthehorn's question - will there be separate components available for purchase or ONLY complete kits? I want a brass plate and aluminum base (as opposed to brushed stainless steel and nylon base) so it might make more sense for me to try and buy an entire kit, but if I can purchase the parts separately (or have them swapped out in my order, knowing it will be shipped late compared to others) I would be a very happy man. Thanks jchan!!
There are 4 different items you can get in extras.
1. Complete kits.
2. extra Bottoms (aluminum and Nylon)
3. extra Plates (brass + alu)
4. Standalone PCBs.
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 12 May 2017, 01:44:40
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 12 May 2017, 01:52:28
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 12 May 2017, 09:16:30
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0NwNrl4BtDD7JCx2/giphy.gif)
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 09:40:32
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 10:24:14
I know I've asked about extras a few times but to piggyback on childofthehorn's question - will there be separate components available for purchase or ONLY complete kits? I want a brass plate and aluminum base (as opposed to brushed stainless steel and nylon base) so it might make more sense for me to try and buy an entire kit, but if I can purchase the parts separately (or have them swapped out in my order, knowing it will be shipped late compared to others) I would be a very happy man. Thanks jchan!!
There are 4 different items you can get in extras.
1. Complete kits.
2. extra Bottoms (aluminum and Nylon
3. extra Plates (brass + alu)
4. Standalone PCBs.
Uhoh.... RIP wallet even more
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 10:29:22
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Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:35:13
Got the word that everything is packed into a crate, and the shell of the crate is being assembled. I'll post a picture when I have it. It's currently 12:30am in China as I'm writing this so I don't think I'd get one til tonight.
Post by: Auxo on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:42:37
Small update.
Got the word that everything is packed into a crate, and the shell of the crate is being assembled. I'll post a picture when I have it. It's currently 12:30am in China as I'm writing this so I don't think I'd get one til tonight.
Yeah boyee
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:54:30
Small update.
Got the word that everything is packed into a crate, and the shell of the crate is being assembled. I'll post a picture when I have it. It's currently 12:30am in China as I'm writing this so I don't think I'd get one til tonight.
Opening that crate gonna be like
More
(https://giant.gfycat.com/AntiqueAbsoluteGuineapig.gif)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:57:38
Small update.
Got the word that everything is packed into a crate, and the shell of the crate is being assembled. I'll post a picture when I have it. It's currently 12:30am in China as I'm writing this so I don't think I'd get one til tonight.
Opening that crate gonna be likeMoreShow Image(https://giant.gfycat.com/AntiqueAbsoluteGuineapig.gif)
now... how the heckl did you make THAT, because that is freaking awesome
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 14:07:38
Small update.
Got the word that everything is packed into a crate, and the shell of the crate is being assembled. I'll post a picture when I have it. It's currently 12:30am in China as I'm writing this so I don't think I'd get one til tonight.
Opening that crate gonna be likeMoreShow Image(https://giant.gfycat.com/AntiqueAbsoluteGuineapig.gif)
now... how the heckl did you make THAT, because that is freaking awesome
Paint
Post by: KINGPIN on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:23:32
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 14:22:17
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Post by: squeakypizza on Mon, 15 May 2017, 13:31:01
Hey jchan I know this is the wrong thread but where is the thread for the maxkeys gb from a while back. I've looked everywhere lol.I literally just sent jchan an email this morning asking about the exact same thing.
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Post by: I_need_a_bath on Mon, 15 May 2017, 20:46:57
Post by: Jpecina on Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:44:54
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Post by: KingRama on Thu, 18 May 2017, 03:13:31
(http://i.imgur.com/HLhK8ie.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/F4OFx6J.png)
Handy if you ever need to brush your teeth on the go ;)
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 18 May 2017, 03:34:58
Post by: rioc on Thu, 18 May 2017, 03:49:06
From Keyclacks instagram story :OShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/HLhK8ie.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F4OFx6J.png)
Handy if you ever need to brush your teeth on the go ;)
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder195/31286195.jpg)
...
(http://img03.bgstatic-com.de/images/documents/documents/2332/modulecontent/612x0/bender.jpg)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 18 May 2017, 03:49:40
From Keyclacks instagram story :Oi saw this but now realized what this might meanShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/HLhK8ie.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F4OFx6J.png)
Handy if you ever need to brush your teeth on the go ;)
Stop teasing me ._.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 18 May 2017, 06:45:17
Post by: imprevade on Thu, 18 May 2017, 07:23:41
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 18 May 2017, 08:02:18
Damn that black looks niceYeah. Kind of regretting not getting black.
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Post by: rioc on Thu, 18 May 2017, 08:07:17
Do the weights still have the design on them?
good catch... wondering about that too now
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 08:39:33
Do the weights still have the design on them?
good catch... wondering about that too now
this was the PVD weight sample. There will still be a design on it.
The plate is also this shiny, and is like 300% better than the sample I took photos of a long time ago.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 18 May 2017, 09:31:19
Do the weights still have the design on them?
good catch... wondering about that too now
this was the PVD weight sample. There will still be a design on it.
The plate is also this shiny, and is like 300% better than the sample I took photos of a long time ago.
oooooh, hey sexy mama!
Post by: wongie on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:08:29
From Keyclacks instagram story :OShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/HLhK8ie.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F4OFx6J.png)
Handy if you ever need to brush your teeth on the go ;)
Well, I guess I'm getting myself a second M65 in black. Hopefully there'll be enough spares left.
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 18 May 2017, 17:35:00
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 17:44:46
HYPE!!!
That's all
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 18 May 2017, 20:48:08
Post by: rioc on Fri, 19 May 2017, 02:31:18
HYPE!!!
HYPE BOYS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sh50lzdyQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sh50lzdyQU)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 06:50:32
(http://i.imgur.com/CEsvCRC.png)
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 19 May 2017, 06:56:31
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 07:06:35
So much hype that the next collab might just as well be called Liquid Gold :eek:
PVD Brass M65A? :D :D
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 19 May 2017, 07:11:38
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 07:34:10
(http://i.imgur.com/2e1JM8B.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/O2XZM5I.jpg)
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 19 May 2017, 07:40:41
I think I messed up with my prototype. I should've gotten all Matte Black.
Don't worry, extras will be available after the GB has shipped at FCFS basis :thumb:
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 19 May 2017, 08:00:19
I think I messed up with my prototype. I should've gotten all Matte Black.
Don't worry, extras will be available after the GB has shipped at FCFS basis :thumb:
RIP JChan
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:26:05
Thank you!!!!
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:40:02
Thank you for all your hard work Icahn and RAMA. The hype is so real!!! On that note I currently have no stabilizers and I'm pretty unfamiliar with any good ones as this will be my second build. Any good recommendations for some stabilizers?
Thank you!!!!
Screw in stabilizers are supposed to be included with your M65. Jchan mentioned awhile back that he would be emailing all participants to find out what size they needed.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:41:55
Thank you for all your hard work Icahn and RAMA. The hype is so real!!! On that note I currently have no stabilizers and I'm pretty unfamiliar with any good ones as this will be my second build. Any good recommendations for some stabilizers?
Thank you!!!!
Screw in stabilizers are supposed to be included with your M65. Jchan mentioned awhile back that he would be emailing all participants to find out what size they needed.
- GMK Screw in Stabs for all
Post by: kmba on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:42:55
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:43:07
Thank you for all your hard work Icahn and RAMA. The hype is so real!!! On that note I currently have no stabilizers and I'm pretty unfamiliar with any good ones as this will be my second build. Any good recommendations for some stabilizers?
Thank you!!!!
Screw in stabilizers are supposed to be included with your M65. Jchan mentioned awhile back that he would be emailing all participants to find out what size they needed.
- GMK Screw in Stabs for all
Right on! Thank you.
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Post by: Aperture_Sci on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:43:22
Post by: hpfalcon on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:55:09
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 11:05:20
Cheers.
Post by: ClearKeys on Fri, 19 May 2017, 11:24:44
Refunds have been processed for those who have emailed me this past week about them.
Cheers.
Let the refunds flow. More for the rest of us! ;)
Post by: iArson on Fri, 19 May 2017, 11:50:16
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:06:11
Are there any leftovers for this?
After the group buy.
Extras are available after the group buy ships, at FCFS. But only after the bulk buy ships.
They will be on the new keyclack website (once we transition to the new one).
It should be available for immediate shipment sometime in May.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:07:03
Are there any leftovers for this?After the group buy.Extras are available after the group buy ships, at FCFS. But only after the bulk buy ships.They will be on the new keyclack website (once we transition to the new one).
It should be available for immediate shipment sometime in May.
June* not may. Cheers.
Post by: iArson on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:07:41
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Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:10:56
Sorry for that, should have read through. Appreciate the response
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I appreciate you quoting it :). :thumb: :thumb:
Thanks!
Post by: networkdrift on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:56:09
Post by: Mr_Grandis on Fri, 19 May 2017, 13:11:56
Post by: Jeu on Fri, 19 May 2017, 23:28:20
Really regretting not getting an aluminum base now. Oh my god.Yup that matte black is :p :p :p TASTY!
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 20 May 2017, 05:50:23
Hngggggggggg.
(http://i.imgur.com/yUWrpHk.jpg)
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sat, 20 May 2017, 12:54:01
Are these still samples? When are you expecting shipping by supplier and receiving for QC?
Post by: Potatoes on Sat, 20 May 2017, 12:59:23
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 20 May 2017, 13:05:03
Looking :cool:
Are these still samples? When are you expecting shipping by supplier and receiving for QC?
Are there any leftovers for this?After the group buy.Extras are available after the group buy ships, at FCFS. But only after the bulk buy ships.They will be on the new keyclack website (once we transition to the new one).
It should be available for immediate shipment sometime in May.
June*
So sexy. Is there an eta on the mats?
In transit. It's a huge shipment so it'll take a tad longer to process through customs n such.
Post by: KINGPIN on Sat, 20 May 2017, 16:09:56
I demand more photo.
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 20 May 2017, 18:10:50
Forgot to post the Box!
Hngggggggggg.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yUWrpHk.jpg)
Eyo, you get my email jchan? Sorry to hijack this thread, tryin to cop a Skog before I'm too late :-X
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 20 May 2017, 18:34:12
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sat, 20 May 2017, 18:40:27
Really diggin this one too.It is all done but there will be extras up for sale on jchan's website, Keyclack.com, once the group buy boards are done shipping
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
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Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 20 May 2017, 18:44:46
Really diggin this one too.
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
He no longer transfers orders, only refunds if people want to back out and those units will go up for sale as retail units once the GB orders have shipped on FCFS basis.
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 20 May 2017, 20:05:59
Really diggin this one too.
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
He no longer transfers orders, only refunds if people want to back out and those units will go up for sale as retail units once the GB orders have shipped on FCFS basis.
Really diggin this one too.It is all done but there will be extras up for sale on jchan's website, Keyclack.com, once the group buy boards are done shipping
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
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Really diggin this one too.
Guessing GB is done. Are we able to buy people's slots?
He no longer transfers orders, only refunds if people want to back out and those units will go up for sale as retail units once the GB orders have shipped on FCFS basis.
Thank you.
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 22 May 2017, 00:47:44
Post by: imprevade on Mon, 22 May 2017, 08:57:04
Does FCFS extras included bases/plates etc? I want a grey or black base :O
There are 4 different items you can get in extras.
1. Complete kits.
2. extra Bottoms (aluminum and Nylon)
3. extra Plates (brass + alu)
4. Standalone PCBs.
Post by: Faux on Mon, 22 May 2017, 16:06:44
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 09:48:07
Was the new ship date in early or late june?
Hi,
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:27:44
Was the new ship date in early or late june?
Hi,
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Well that's a super crap for me. Was really hoping it would be early June. I'll be moving to a new state on June 19th.... so where in the heck should I have my keyboard shipped to? EEEK!
Maybe if you give us notice before they ship so I can have a chance to change the address on my order at the last minute?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:34:28
Was the new ship date in early or late june?
Hi,
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Well that's a super crap for me. Was really hoping it would be early June. I'll be moving to a new state on June 19th.... so where in the heck should I have my keyboard shipped to? EEEK!
Maybe if you give us notice before they ship so I can have a chance to change the address on my order at the last minute?
I've marked your order to email you when it's ready.
The boxes are all premarked with the order number, so all I have to do is QC and pop-in your PCB, put it into a box, and it'll be on its way to you.
Should be fast with the amount of hands I'll have on deck.
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:40:17
Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:47:10
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:50:43
Was the new ship date in early or late june?
Hi,
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Well that's a super crap for me. Was really hoping it would be early June. I'll be moving to a new state on June 19th.... so where in the heck should I have my keyboard shipped to? EEEK!
Maybe if you give us notice before they ship so I can have a chance to change the address on my order at the last minute?
I've marked your order to email you when it's ready.
The boxes are all premarked with the order number, so all I have to do is QC and pop-in your PCB, put it into a box, and it'll be on its way to you.
Should be fast with the amount of hands I'll have on deck.
Thanks! I appreciate it very much :thumb:
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:08:14
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:06:08
holy crap. im so glad i got all matte black :D
I somewhat wish I'd ordered black since it looks as if more keysets will go with it. I think space gray will look good though.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:39:03
Hydro Blue Top + Acrylic Bottom + Aqua Mod-M Switches + GMK Hydro
Can't wait to sit down and build it, better clean up some desk space soon...
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:00:31
The m65a to Asia proxy will land next week to Asia proxy location. Should be redistributed then. Cheers.
The rest of the universe will ship out to you lovely people in June.
Refunds and address updates have been addressed via email.
Have a good day ahead everyone!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 25 May 2017, 02:33:50
Post by: blacksimon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:46:22
Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 25 May 2017, 10:24:09
The M65A would be an awesome wedding gift for me!
Missing a keyset though :/
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 26 May 2017, 17:15:16
Post by: breusch91 on Fri, 26 May 2017, 22:32:28
JChan, if I want to add an extra aluminium base to my order (when it becomes available at your site), can I combine that with my original order for shipping? I.e., is it possible to avoid double shipping? I don't really mind delaying the shipment of my original order slightly to make that possible.
Not sure if correct but I'd imagine no. This ships in a custom case/box and from what i remember it looked like there was room in that case for an extra pcp/plate, so that might be feasible, but don't think thered be room for another base.
Post by: imprevade on Sat, 27 May 2017, 00:00:49
JChan, if I want to add an extra aluminium base to my order (when it becomes available at your site), can I combine that with my original order for shipping? I.e., is it possible to avoid double shipping? I don't really mind delaying the shipment of my original order slightly to make that possible.
Not sure if correct but I'd imagine no. This ships in a custom case/box and from what i remember it looked like there was room in that case for an extra pcp/plate, so that might be feasible, but don't think thered be room for another base.
I didn't order any pcp!
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Sat, 27 May 2017, 02:34:10
JChan, if I want to add an extra aluminium base to my order (when it becomes available at your site), can I combine that with my original order for shipping? I.e., is it possible to avoid double shipping? I don't really mind delaying the shipment of my original order slightly to make that possible.
Not sure if correct but I'd imagine no. This ships in a custom case/box and from what i remember it looked like there was room in that case for an extra pcp/plate, so that might be feasible, but don't think thered be room for another base.
Ahh good point. A shame if that's the case, I was hoping I won't have to pay for shipping twice. I kinda accidentally talked myself into getting an extra matte black aluminium base after seeing the recent photos, they look so good!
Post by: consolelog on Sun, 28 May 2017, 12:39:47
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Post by: gizmoplex on Sun, 28 May 2017, 15:12:16
1. There will be an options for; complete kits, extra bottoms (Alu & Nylon), extra plates (Alu & Brass), and standalone PCBs.
2. It will be available via https://www.keyclack.com/ on FCFS basis once the GB units shipped (mid-late June).
Is that correct?
Is it possible to announce the exact time of when will it be available on keyclack's website so we (bunch of people who are really interested on the extras) could anticipate the sale?
I assume that many people are interested on the leftovers and it'll sold out crazy fast :-X
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I really want these beautiful board so bad and I want to prepare myself. Been watching this thread and keyclack's site like a hawk since I learned there are extras of M65-A.
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 28 May 2017, 17:40:27
What I know so far about the extras:
1. There will be an options for; complete kits, extra bottoms (Alu & Nylon), extra plates (Alu & Brass), and standalone PCBs.
2. It will be available via https://www.keyclack.com/ on FCFS basis once the GB units shipped (mid-late June).
Is that correct?
Is it possible to announce the exact time of when will it be available on keyclack's website so we (bunch of people who are really interested on the extras) could anticipate the sale?
I assume that many people are interested on the leftovers and it'll sold out crazy fast :-X
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I really want these beautiful board so bad and I want to prepare myself. Been watching this thread and keyclack's site like a hawk since I learned there are extras of M65-A.
He announced a time for when SA Camping sets would go live in the thread here on GH. So if you are paying attention, I believe you'll be able to set an alarm for it.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 28 May 2017, 21:26:11
What I know so far about the extras:
1. There will be an options for; complete kits, extra bottoms (Alu & Nylon), extra plates (Alu & Brass), and standalone PCBs.
2. It will be available via https://www.keyclack.com/ on FCFS basis once the GB units shipped (mid-late June).
Is that correct?
Is it possible to announce the exact time of when will it be available on keyclack's website so we (bunch of people who are really interested on the extras) could anticipate the sale?
I assume that many people are interested on the leftovers and it'll sold out crazy fast :-X
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I really want these beautiful board so bad and I want to prepare myself. Been watching this thread and keyclack's site like a hawk since I learned there are extras of M65-A.
He announced a time for when SA Camping sets would go live in the thread here on GH. So if you are paying attention, I believe you'll be able to set an alarm for it.
Same with Hydro so I'm sure he'll do the same thing for this :thumb:
Post by: gizmoplex on Mon, 29 May 2017, 01:36:17
What I know so far about the extras:
1. There will be an options for; complete kits, extra bottoms (Alu & Nylon), extra plates (Alu & Brass), and standalone PCBs.
2. It will be available via https://www.keyclack.com/ on FCFS basis once the GB units shipped (mid-late June).
Is that correct?
Is it possible to announce the exact time of when will it be available on keyclack's website so we (bunch of people who are really interested on the extras) could anticipate the sale?
I assume that many people are interested on the leftovers and it'll sold out crazy fast :-X
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I really want these beautiful board so bad and I want to prepare myself. Been watching this thread and keyclack's site like a hawk since I learned there are extras of M65-A.
He announced a time for when SA Camping sets would go live in the thread here on GH. So if you are paying attention, I believe you'll be able to set an alarm for it.
Same with Hydro so I'm sure he'll do the same thing for this :thumb:
Aah, I see. Glad to hear that. Thanks Oblotzky & forevermadrigal.
Post by: Fullcream on Mon, 29 May 2017, 04:16:21
Long ago right at the start after paying my invoice I messaged you to see if I could change from Space Gray to black. You said no problem! and told me you updated the invoice denoting the changes. I got the confirmation email from Paypal that changes had been made to the invoice. Within that email it had a link to the new/adjusted invoice which still has the same description with space gray and no additional notes about the color change.
Anyone else made changes and went through the same thing?
Assure me there's nothing to worry about :-X :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 05:53:17
jchan. I'm slightly concerned.
Long ago right at the start after paying my invoice I messaged you to see if I could change from Space Gray to black. You said no problem! and told me you updated the invoice denoting the changes. I got the confirmation email from Paypal that changes had been made to the invoice. Within that email it had a link to the new/adjusted invoice which still has the same description with space gray and no additional notes about the color change.
Anyone else made changes and went through the same thing?
Assure me there's nothing to worry about :-X :thumb:
You should email me - support@keyclack.com ; and include your invoice stuffs so I can check it.
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 29 May 2017, 20:31:58
will there be a heads up when the FCFS Rama's will be on sale? I missed the GB and really want a space gray one :)
Cheers!
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 20:47:31
Hey jchan94,
will there be a heads up when the FCFS Rama's will be on sale? I missed the GB and really want a space gray one :)
Cheers!
Yes.
Post by: delivery on Mon, 29 May 2017, 20:50:00
Good thanks, i need an extra baseHey jchan94,
will there be a heads up when the FCFS Rama's will be on sale? I missed the GB and really want a space gray one :)
Cheers!
Yes.
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Post by: fishpod on Tue, 30 May 2017, 03:37:28
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Post by: rioc on Tue, 30 May 2017, 03:50:43
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
**** ME THAT'S A BEAUTY!!! Which country you from? got a tracking No. or did it just show up?
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 30 May 2017, 03:58:49
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
**** ME THAT'S A BEAUTY!!! Which country you from? got a tracking No. or did it just show up?
Asian Proxy GB will get first, and others will ship in June.
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 30 May 2017, 03:59:26
Post by: rioc on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:01:21
mmm these are soo nice. Shame i can't afford one :'( Hopefully Rama will make a 96layout one day.
This or the KIRA! (I'd love a Southpaw KIRA Version though (Numpad on the left))
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:23:19
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:38:50
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Post by: fishpod on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:39:22
I'm from China. so the shipping is like, super fastIT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
**** ME THAT'S A BEAUTY!!! Which country you from? got a tracking No. or did it just show up?
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:39:35
mmm these are soo nice. Shame i can't afford one :'( Hopefully Rama will make a 96layout one day.
This or the KIRA! (I'd love a Southpaw KIRA Version though (Numpad on the left))
Yeah, i got in for the lightsaver instead (thats where all ma money went), but imo rama's case is way nicer
Post by: fishpod on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:40:57
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:42:23
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Post by: fishpod on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:49:33
THANKS!! <3jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Post by: rioc on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:50:18
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Btw., how many M65-As were made? (Since it used to be a limited run, I'm wondering how much more demand there was.)
Post by: delivery on Tue, 30 May 2017, 04:52:44
Mine should be here soon i guess
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 30 May 2017, 05:00:17
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Btw., how many M65-As were made? (Since it used to be a limited run, I'm wondering how much more demand there was.)
Over 9000 obviously
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 30 May 2017, 05:02:11
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Btw., how many M65-As were made? (Since it used to be a limited run, I'm wondering how much more demand there was.)
Over 9000 obviously
I think 9000 is correct for the number of emails I get a day asking about extras ;)
In any case, I believe 450 were made internationally.
Please note: I know that some invoice numbers go higher than that, but that's because a lot of people dropped out during invoicing phase.
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 30 May 2017, 07:45:49
jchan! i do enjoy this beauty!! does the JC65 PCB support screw in stabilizers?IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
IT'S HERE
Oh my flipping holy mama! That looks BEAUTIFUL! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT <3
Yes of course it does :). I used the Zeal ones on the prototype.
You may find the video made by Quakemz here -
Btw., how many M65-As were made? (Since it used to be a limited run, I'm wondering how much more demand there was.)
Over 9000 obviously
I think 9000 is correct for the number of emails I get a day asking about extras ;)
In any case, I believe 450 were made internationally.
Please note: I know that some invoice numbers go higher than that, but that's because a lot of people dropped out during invoicing phase.
Well that doesn't inspire me with confidence to grab one later :(
But awesome they are shipping out!
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Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 30 May 2017, 08:10:55
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Wed, 31 May 2017, 10:20:19
Hey jchan94,
will there be a heads up when the FCFS Rama's will be on sale? I missed the GB and really want a space gray one :)
Cheers!
Yes.
Sooooo.... What's the likelihood of seeing a brass plate up for sale? :( *fingers crossed*
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 10:46:12
Edited to be less rude:Hey jchan94,
will there be a heads up when the FCFS Rama's will be on sale? I missed the GB and really want a space gray one :)
Cheers!
Yes.
Sooooo.... What's the likelihood of seeing a brass plate up for sale? :( *fingers crossed*
Yes, there will be extras of pretty much EVERYTHING. Extra Kits, extra PCBs, extra plates and extra bottoms.
The same thing was directly stated on page 22 (which was longer ago than I thought) and frequently mentioned after that.
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Wed, 31 May 2017, 10:55:02
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 31 May 2017, 11:46:01
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 12:09:03
Is it really THAT necessary to be rude about it? Heesh, you act like he personally offended you.
Sorry, I was sitting in an annoying evening lecture and got a notification email for this thread and was greeted with the same question as always and let my mood swing over.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 13:22:23
Is it really THAT necessary to be rude about it? Heesh, you act like he personally offended you.
Sorry, I was sitting in an annoying evening lecture and got a notification email for this thread and was greeted with the same question as always and let my mood swing over.
Love you kawasaki ;D
----
USA shipment should be landing soon. I got this image a while ago, but forgot to share it. I just want you all to see how organized we've been able to make this. Each box contains 4 M65-A's (within their own beautiful boxes).
Do you see your invoice number? :D
(http://i.imgur.com/PuqGmac.png)
A note on Extras
Once the group buy shipment is out, full details will be given for the release time/date of the extras. These are a retail price, and the full details, including pricing will be provided on Instagram (@keyclack), Reddit, this thread, and the keyclack mailing list after the bulk buy ships. You will have at least, a 72 hour heads up.
Please remember, the units are first come, first serve. My website autoscales with traffic demand so it doesn't crash, but it hangs when it's hugged.
What can I buy in the extras?
- PCBs
- Plates (Brass and Aluminum)
- Bottoms (Nylon, and Aluminum)
- and Full Pre-Determined Kits.
What is a pre-determined kit?
- A kit that has the top, bottom, plate, and PCB in a box. They come as is, and won't change.
- Also, you're limited to 1 Full Kit Unit (you can add the other parts if you wish, such as extra plate, or pcb).
Is there a R2?
- Currently, none planned, but Rama and I will explore that idea after the M65A is in people's hands.
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I hope that clears things up, and hope you all get this soon. Cheers.
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Wed, 31 May 2017, 13:33:11
Post by: robbles on Wed, 31 May 2017, 14:06:04
A note on Extras
Once the group buy shipment is out, full details will be given for the release time/date of the extras. These are a retail price, and the full details, including pricing will be provided on Instagram (@keyclack), Reddit, this thread, and the keyclack mailing list after the bulk buy ships. You will have at least, a 72 hour heads up.
Please remember, the units are first come, first serve. My website autoscales with traffic demand so it doesn't crash, but it hangs when it's hugged.
What can I buy in the extras?
- PCBs
- Plates (Brass and Aluminum)
- Bottoms (Nylon, and Aluminum)
- and Full Pre-Determined Kits.
What is a pre-determined kit?
- A kit that has the top, bottom, plate, and PCB in a box. They come as is, and won't change.
- Also, you're limited to 1 Full Kit Unit (you can add the other parts if you wish, such as extra plate, or pcb).
Is there a R2?
- Currently, none planned, but Rama and I will explore that idea after the M65A is in people's hands.
------------
I hope that clears things up, and hope you all get this soon. Cheers.
Thank you for the info on extras jchan! It is nice to hear there will be efficient notice before extras go on sale. I'm excited to see everybody's builds!
Post by: yokken on Wed, 31 May 2017, 19:16:11
Post by: delivery on Wed, 31 May 2017, 20:23:12
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Post by: Arcsxum on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:19:45
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:20:26
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:25:29
Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.
Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:37:02
Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Oh okay, so its gonna fly to US and come back to Singapore...
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:32:16
Are there any extra Black-Middle Earth q keys? I just checked and luckily that's the only one that's got the marking on itShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/428fb4147f72b32eba35ad046dd4faab.jpg)
the same two caps are missing for me as well. also mailed.
didn't have much time to check all the caps but i have to say, that i'm not very happy with the overall quality of the caps. but the dyesub itself is done very well, i think.nice got mine today :D
now i just have to get blank 1.25 keycaps for my double space bar as well as
sand/tune the g and h key to fit to the trackpoint.
(mailed you for the missing keys btw)
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love the keycaps :) have them with clips and o rings for my office :D
The colors fit perfectly to norbauer cnc alu case :p :thumb:
gj jChanGot my caps today, all good. Only complaint I have is that it's never stated that these caps don't have "+" part connecting the central stem with the border. Without the + plastic part any O-rings you use will go too deep into the keycap to be of use and youll have to stack multiple rings to get them to work.
I actually use double o rings with clips. With one ring the dampers are not noticeable.
Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Oh okay, so its gonna fly to US and come back to Singapore...
Yes. But think about it this way: man, what a journey this board has gone through. The hands it's been handed down from. The sites it's seen.
Please fill this out for GMK SCREW IN STABS to be in your order.
https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
Post by: rioc on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:47:21
Yes. But think about it this way: man, what a journey this board has gone through. The hands it's been handed down from. The sites it's seen.
Please fill this out for GMK SCREW IN STABS to be in your order.
https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
wait, this is a free goodie?
if so, really great service Joseph :)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:47:44
Are there any extra Black-Middle Earth q keys? I just checked and luckily that's the only one that's got the marking on itShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/428fb4147f72b32eba35ad046dd4faab.jpg)the same two caps are missing for me as well. also mailed.
didn't have much time to check all the caps but i have to say, that i'm not very happy with the overall quality of the caps. but the dyesub itself is done very well, i think.nice got mine today :D
now i just have to get blank 1.25 keycaps for my double space bar as well as
sand/tune the g and h key to fit to the trackpoint.
(mailed you for the missing keys btw)
(Attachment Link)
love the keycaps :) have them with clips and o rings for my office :D
The colors fit perfectly to norbauer cnc alu case :p :thumb:
gj jChanGot my caps today, all good. Only complaint I have is that it's never stated that these caps don't have "+" part connecting the central stem with the border. Without the + plastic part any O-rings you use will go too deep into the keycap to be of use and youll have to stack multiple rings to get them to work.
I actually use double o rings with clips. With one ring the dampers are not noticeable.Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Oh okay, so its gonna fly to US and come back to Singapore...
Yes. But think about it this way: man, what a journey this board has gone through. The hands it's been handed down from. The sites it's seen.
Please fill this out for GMK SCREW IN STABS to be in your order.
https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:50:34
Are there any extra Black-Middle Earth q keys? I just checked and luckily that's the only one that's got the marking on itShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/428fb4147f72b32eba35ad046dd4faab.jpg)the same two caps are missing for me as well. also mailed.
didn't have much time to check all the caps but i have to say, that i'm not very happy with the overall quality of the caps. but the dyesub itself is done very well, i think.nice got mine today :D
now i just have to get blank 1.25 keycaps for my double space bar as well as
sand/tune the g and h key to fit to the trackpoint.
(mailed you for the missing keys btw)
(Attachment Link)
love the keycaps :) have them with clips and o rings for my office :D
The colors fit perfectly to norbauer cnc alu case :p :thumb:
gj jChanGot my caps today, all good. Only complaint I have is that it's never stated that these caps don't have "+" part connecting the central stem with the border. Without the + plastic part any O-rings you use will go too deep into the keycap to be of use and youll have to stack multiple rings to get them to work.
I actually use double o rings with clips. With one ring the dampers are not noticeable.Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Oh okay, so its gonna fly to US and come back to Singapore...
Yes. But think about it this way: man, what a journey this board has gone through. The hands it's been handed down from. The sites it's seen.
Please fill this out for GMK SCREW IN STABS to be in your order.
https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Please submit twice. Thanks
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:57:05
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:57:51
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Please submit twice. Thanks
Thanks, submitted twice. Only other thing is (and I left a note about it on the form), I picked up a slot from someone else for one of my orders. I put the original order number down for the form, but there's also a slightly modified version of that order number that you referenced when you invoiced me for that slot. I felt like the original order number was more accurate, since it is in the same format as my other order number, but I made a note of that situation on the form.
Post by: squeakypizza on Thu, 01 June 2017, 07:59:48
Are there any extra Black-Middle Earth q keys? I just checked and luckily that's the only one that's got the marking on itShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/428fb4147f72b32eba35ad046dd4faab.jpg)the same two caps are missing for me as well. also mailed.
didn't have much time to check all the caps but i have to say, that i'm not very happy with the overall quality of the caps. but the dyesub itself is done very well, i think.nice got mine today :D
now i just have to get blank 1.25 keycaps for my double space bar as well as
sand/tune the g and h key to fit to the trackpoint.
(mailed you for the missing keys btw)
(Attachment Link)
love the keycaps :) have them with clips and o rings for my office :D
The colors fit perfectly to norbauer cnc alu case :p :thumb:
gj jChanGot my caps today, all good. Only complaint I have is that it's never stated that these caps don't have "+" part connecting the central stem with the border. Without the + plastic part any O-rings you use will go too deep into the keycap to be of use and youll have to stack multiple rings to get them to work.
I actually use double o rings with clips. With one ring the dampers are not noticeable.Hey jchan,
Just wondering if you've asked us about which size stabs we wanted yet.
I changed email since the GB and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss your email.
Thanks!
I'll have the form up tonight to sign up for a set of stabs.Not sure if I'm in the Asia proxy or not. I live in asia but not sure if its automatically routed to the proxy.
If you ordered through taobao (or Asia proxy), you get it through them.
If you ordered from me, you get it from me in Los Angeles.
Oh okay, so its gonna fly to US and come back to Singapore...
Yes. But think about it this way: man, what a journey this board has gone through. The hands it's been handed down from. The sites it's seen.
Please fill this out for GMK SCREW IN STABS to be in your order.
https://goo.gl/forms/2d7NsCDoxY7jaJ903
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Please submit twice. Thanks
If I want to go for a normal layout as shown in the renders, which stabs do I get? 6.25 or 7?
I'm soooo hyped. Thanks so much everyone and especially jchan and rama!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:02:12
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Please submit twice. Thanks
Thanks, submitted twice. Only other thing is (and I left a note about it on the form), I picked up a slot from someone else for one of my orders. I put the original order number down for the form, but there's also a slightly modified version of that order number that you referenced when you invoiced me for that slot. I felt like the original order number was more accurate, since it is in the same format as my other order number, but I made a note of that situation on the form.
So does that mean, I did not transfer the order, or you did so on your own?
If you did a transfer through me, I add a letter such as: M65-A-0000A or M65-A-0000B
Please email me.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:13:46
If I want to go for a normal layout as shown in the renders, which stabs do I get? 6.25 or 7?
I'm soooo hyped. Thanks so much everyone and especially jchan and rama!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
7U for the two 1.5U caps either side of space bar (like renders on first page)
if you want the "standard layout" with 3 1.25U modifiers on the left side, you want the 6.25U
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:14:18
If we have two separate order numbers, can we put it down as "M65-A-XXX and M65-A-XXX" on the form?
Please submit twice. Thanks
Thanks, submitted twice. Only other thing is (and I left a note about it on the form), I picked up a slot from someone else for one of my orders. I put the original order number down for the form, but there's also a slightly modified version of that order number that you referenced when you invoiced me for that slot. I felt like the original order number was more accurate, since it is in the same format as my other order number, but I made a note of that situation on the form.
So does that mean, I did not transfer the order, or you did so on your own?
If you did a transfer through me, I add a letter such as: M65-A-0000A or M65-A-0000B
Please email me.
It was through you. Emailed with explanation to the Keyclack Support address.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:24:13
Post by: squeakypizza on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:25:53
If I want to go for a normal layout as shown in the renders, which stabs do I get? 6.25 or 7?
I'm soooo hyped. Thanks so much everyone and especially jchan and rama!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Right on! Thanks so much!
7U for the two 1.5U caps either side of space bar (like renders on first page)
if you want the "standard layout" with 3 1.25U modifiers on the left side, you want the 6.25U
Post by: squeakypizza on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:28:47
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:29:26
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:36:11
- Addresses updated.
- Requesting to see if we have extra units at the manufacturer that we can receive.
Have a good day everyone!
Post by: kmba on Thu, 01 June 2017, 08:50:38
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 01 June 2017, 09:58:08
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:01:36
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:06:06
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Where are you based? There are a few places you can buy just the 7u wire cheaply. If you're near me I'll send you one for the cost of postage.
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:15:04
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Where are you based? There are a few places you can buy just the 7u wire cheaply. If you're near me I'll send you one for the cost of postage.
I'm in the central US. Probably not cheap postage if you're in the UK though ^-^
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:23:39
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Where are you based? There are a few places you can buy just the 7u wire cheaply. If you're near me I'll send you one for the cost of postage.
I'm in the central US. Probably not cheap postage if you're in the UK though ^-^
Well to send it in a letter would only cost about 2 quid however it may arrive very bent haha. I'm sure there will be a US based site you can get a wire for a matter of cents though.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:39:54
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Well, I'm mainly going with 7U because all my other boards use 6.25 (or 6u.. topre) and I want to switch it up. And even though the 7u + 1.5u layout makes the bottom a little less symetrical looking, you gain a cleaner look with fewer keys. You won't be able to switch from 6.25u to 7u without desoldering, because the one requires 3 switches to the left of the space, the other only 2.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 01 June 2017, 17:21:51
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 01 June 2017, 17:37:09
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Well, I'm mainly going with 7U because all my other boards use 6.25 (or 6u.. topre) and I want to switch it up. And even though the 7u + 1.5u layout makes the bottom a little less symetrical looking, you gain a cleaner look with fewer keys. You won't be able to switch from 6.25u to 7u without desoldering, because the one requires 3 switches to the left of the space, the other only 2.
Yeah, I ultimately would like to use 1.5u control and alt keys with a 7u spacebar like the original photos, but I won't have any keycaps that support that for several more months and I want to play with it as soon as I get it. :p
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 01 June 2017, 20:44:39
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
I've bought mine from winkeyless in the past (I only use 7u). He emailed me after I ordered to say that he was going to refund some of the shipping charge because it's a small package. If you buy from him send him an email and I'm sure he'll be willing to lower the shipping.
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 21:33:59
Originative should have screw in stabs dude.Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
My preferred layout will require the 7u stabilizer, but I won't have any caps that fit that for a long while, so I went with the 6.25u stabilizer so that I can use the keyboard in the short term.
Second guessing myself here. Where is a good place to get a 7u stabilizer for later if I want to change layouts without spending a buttload for a whole pack of stabs?
Well, I'm mainly going with 7U because all my other boards use 6.25 (or 6u.. topre) and I want to switch it up. And even though the 7u + 1.5u layout makes the bottom a little less symetrical looking, you gain a cleaner look with fewer keys. You won't be able to switch from 6.25u to 7u without desoldering, because the one requires 3 switches to the left of the space, the other only 2.
Yeah, I ultimately would like to use 1.5u control and alt keys with a 7u spacebar like the original photos, but I won't have any keycaps that support that for several more months and I want to play with it as soon as I get it.
Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Post by: qbadger on Thu, 01 June 2017, 21:59:44
Well to send it in a letter would only cost about 2 quid however it may arrive very bent haha. I'm sure there will be a US based site you can get a wire for a matter of cents though.
Did you get yours from within the UK? Just curious in case I change my mind later and want it for myself (also based in the UK).
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 02 June 2017, 00:53:20
Thanks jchan! Can't wait! I just hope I can get my hands on this and build it before I have to move at the end of June.
Post by: fishpod on Fri, 02 June 2017, 04:11:42
i wonder if theres a manual for the jc65 pcb or not?
i want to know how to turn on / off the LEDs and how to program it
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 02 June 2017, 06:35:54
Hi Jchan
i wonder if theres a manual for the jc65 pcb or not?
i want to know how to turn on / off the LEDs and how to program it
I am no expert on this matter, but it uses ps2avrGB firmware, http://winkeyless.kr/infomation-on-ps2avru-and-ps2avrgb/ they have a BootMapperClient and everything to control it via GUI and its source code is also on github so you can do whatever you want I'd imagine.
Post by: Troif on Fri, 02 June 2017, 06:42:06
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:29:41
was the weight already included or we need to get it later?
Brass weight is included with every M65-A
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 02 June 2017, 08:13:53
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:12:46
Went with 7u so I can go with 1.5u across the bottom, arrows, split l shift, split backspace (bar, delete), and hhkb delete/bs. No need for win key on programmable board, especially with qmk. Thinking either double tap on FN or maybe ctrl+alt for win.
Do you, like, hate stabilised keys or something?? :P
Post by: kmba on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:56:14
Post by: kmba on Fri, 02 June 2017, 13:02:00
:D na just want dedicated arrows, delete key, page and home/end keys.
Although I just realized my layout doesn't provide a key for function. I'll have to make right alt/ctrl into win and FN keys. I don't use them for anything. 1.5u life ain't easy.
Post by: fishpod on Sat, 03 June 2017, 01:42:45
was the weight already included or we need to get it later?thanks m8! got it!
Post by: atomicus on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:06:55
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:42:01
Novice question, but why would one want the GMK screw in stabs?
the screw in stabs fix the stabs on to the board and should lower the possibility of pulling out a stabilizer when changing keycaps.
Post by: kmba on Sat, 03 June 2017, 12:54:31
Novice question, but why would one want the GMK screw in stabs?
the screw in stabs fix the stabs on to the board and should lower the possibility of pulling out a stabilizer when changing keycaps.
Plus the base is super secure and provides better stabilization
Post by: doooostin on Sun, 04 June 2017, 01:41:45
- Emails replied to.
- Addresses updated.
- Requesting to see if we have extra units at the manufacturer that we can receive.
Have a good day everyone!
Hey Jchan, not sure if my email was seen?
M65-A-247
Just double checking! Wouldn't want the package to ship to wrong location :o.
Post by: atomicus on Sun, 04 June 2017, 09:18:40
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 04 June 2017, 09:38:19
Bit confused which stabs I need... 6.25U or 7U. I will have ISO UK layout.
6.25 is the most common size, but you can use the ISO UK layout with 7U stabs as well. Look at the bottom rows available on the M65-A on the first page of this thread, and maybe check your keyset for compatibility as well if you already have one. It's mostly a matter of personal preference and keyset compatibility.
Post by: atomicus on Sun, 04 June 2017, 09:39:28
Bit confused which stabs I need... 6.25U or 7U. I will have ISO UK layout.
6.25 is the most common size, but you can use the ISO UK layout with 7U stabs as well. Look at the bottom rows available on the M65-A on the first page of this thread, and maybe check your keyset for compatibility as well if you already have one. It's mostly a matter of personal preference and keyset compatibility.
Don't have keyset yet, but sounds like 6.25U might be safer bet?
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 04 June 2017, 09:47:56
Bit confused which stabs I need... 6.25U or 7U. I will have ISO UK layout.
6.25 is the most common size, but you can use the ISO UK layout with 7U stabs as well. Look at the bottom rows available on the M65-A on the first page of this thread, and maybe check your keyset for compatibility as well if you already have one. It's mostly a matter of personal preference and keyset compatibility.
Don't have keyset yet, but sounds like 6.25U might be safer bet?
In theory it is. Although unless you're going for the cheap stuff (such as Tai-Hao), a lot if not most keysets nowadays offer a 7U spacebar and some 1.5U mods.
Post by: KINGPIN on Sun, 04 June 2017, 13:23:40
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 04 June 2017, 15:02:03
This question might be already answered but when will shippings to UK ship?
Same time as all US/EU orders, which is to say, not yet (the shipment hasn't even reached jchan yet)
Post by: Faux on Mon, 05 June 2017, 18:05:48
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 05 June 2017, 23:39:22
Just realized that JC65s are supposed to ship later this month. Looking forwards to building and posting pics.
What are you planning to do with the PCB? Curious. I thought he never released the case or plate for it.
Post by: Faux on Tue, 06 June 2017, 02:45:36
Just realized that JC65s are supposed to ship later this month. Looking forwards to building and posting pics.
What are you planning to do with the PCB? Curious. I thought he never released the case or plate for it.
What do you mean? I'm planning on putting vint blacks on the PCB. The case is the M65-A and the plate is the brass plate. Hopefully that answers your question.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 06 June 2017, 06:33:50
Post by: rioc on Tue, 06 June 2017, 08:45:31
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 06 June 2017, 13:48:06
Hey jchan, can't remember which Size Stab I ordered in the latest form. Can you look that up or shall I send you a mail with my order number?
Email support@keyclack.com with your email used + order ID thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:16:05
This is a friendly bump to make sure you fill out the form.
Other than that, I hope that the shipment arrives soon.
Fun question while we wait
If the shipment is 4 pallets, what is the estimated total weight for 450 M65's ?
Post by: ambalek on Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:23:42
Fun question while we wait
If the shipment is 4 pallets, what is the estimated total weight for 450 M65's ?
1575 kg/3472 lbs?
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:38:32
Hi everyone,
This is a friendly bump to make sure you fill out the form.
Other than that, I hope that the shipment arrives soon.
Fun question while we wait
If the shipment is 4 pallets, what is the estimated total weight for 450 M65's ?
somewhere close to 2700lbs.
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:59:22
Fun question while we wait
If the shipment is 4 pallets, what is the estimated total weight for 450 M65's ?
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Post by: Kavik on Wed, 07 June 2017, 16:05:23
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 16:16:19
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:53:56
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 08 June 2017, 02:32:43
Post by: Dominathan on Thu, 08 June 2017, 03:22:51
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 08 June 2017, 04:14:47
Post by: rioc on Thu, 08 June 2017, 04:15:29
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:34:03
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Post by: blacksimon on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:52:34
Post by: giHefca on Thu, 08 June 2017, 16:40:53
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 08 June 2017, 16:59:03
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 08 June 2017, 17:07:31
Yo mama so fat....
dat when she jump fo joyy
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 08 June 2017, 17:09:21
Yo mama so fat....
dat when she jump fo joyy
she got stuck. okay fank you.
#sheweighsasmuchasapalletofM65s
Post by: shinz0 on Thu, 08 June 2017, 17:12:55
Post by: yokken on Thu, 08 June 2017, 19:12:32
Jchan/RAMA posted a picture showing 4 kits per box a few weeks ago. 450 / 4 = 112.5 boxes, so let's say 113 boxes with one kit all by itself in the 113th box. If we assume each kit is between 6 and 8 pounds, let's go with 7, then 450 * 7lb = 3,150 pounds, or 1,432kg. This is far under DHL's maximum pallet weight. The boxes seem to take up quite a bit of space (38.5x34.5x32cm) and DHL's maximum pallet dimensions for Express are 120x100x160cm. We can fit 3 x 3 x 4 per pallet, or 36 boxes per pallet. This puts us at 458kg per 36 boxes (4kits*3.18kg*36 boxes) which would mean that 4 pallets are needed for 113 boxes. The thing is, with 36 boxes per pallet, that's 108 boxes across 3 pallets, leaving... 5 boxes... on pallet 4. Not likely. 30 boxes per pallet makes the most sense. 30, 30, 30, 23. But I digress!
I'm going to say 3200lb or 1500kg all told, which ever is closer ;)
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Fri, 09 June 2017, 13:40:02
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 09 June 2017, 13:59:55
Post by: catweewee on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:03:47
(http://i.imgur.com/L12fnPl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/76u4kB1.jpg)
The board weighs about 1.5kg with GMK caps.
Post by: delivery on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:08:43
For the full Build log: http://imgur.com/a/gVfcTChitttttttt!!! Nice!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L12fnPl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/76u4kB1.jpg)
The board weighs about 1.5kg with GMK caps.
Post by: stand.geek on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:09:48
For the full Build log: http://imgur.com/a/gVfcTShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/L12fnPl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/76u4kB1.jpg)
The board weighs about 1.5kg with GMK caps.
Wow. Nice build man!
Post by: purrito on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:12:08
For the full Build log: http://imgur.com/a/gVfcTShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/L12fnPl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/76u4kB1.jpg)
The board weighs about 1.5kg with GMK caps.
Wow! The matte black looks incredible! Awesome build :thumb:
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:15:21
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:24:31
Anyone of you lucky asians order the desk mat? I'd love to see a pic (maybe one has already been posted and I missed it???)
I didn't take a picture of the whole thing, but here's an album of it close up.
http://imgur.com/a/7tAAU
Also, thank you Catweewee. Hope you enjoy that box.
Post by: catweewee on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:37:57
Anyone of you lucky asians order the desk mat? I'd love to see a pic (maybe one has already been posted and I missed it???)
I didn't take a picture of the whole thing, but here's an album of it close up.
http://imgur.com/a/7tAAU
Also, thank you Catweewee. Hope you enjoy that box.
best box, its in my cupboard marinating.
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 09 June 2017, 15:52:37
For the full Build log: http://imgur.com/a/gVfcTShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/L12fnPl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/76u4kB1.jpg)
The board weighs about 1.5kg with GMK caps.
Damn, every time I see a picture, I wish I'd ordered black instead of space gray. That looks amazing.
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 09 June 2017, 18:06:56
I hope they get there sooooon! I'm itching with anticipen15land
Post by: Auxo on Fri, 09 June 2017, 21:54:36
when you have the time, can you take a look at my IG/Slack msg to you :)
Thank you!
Post by: Dominathan on Fri, 09 June 2017, 21:55:05
1723.5 kg :O
I hope they get there sooooon! I'm itching with anticipen15land
Has there been an update to when they're coming? I'm getting to the point where I can't stop thinking about this!!!
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 10 June 2017, 00:58:26
1723.5 kg :O
I hope they get there sooooon! I'm itching with anticipen15land
Has there been an update to when they're coming? I'm getting to the point where I can't stop thinking about this!!!
They should be in your hands, or at least tracked by End of June.
Jchan,
when you have the time, can you take a look at my IG/Slack msg to you :)
Thank you!
I'll check it tomorrow :)
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 10 June 2017, 16:46:24
(http://i.imgur.com/ZfxKzww.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/mD0j3s5.png)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 10 June 2017, 18:18:21
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 10 June 2017, 19:40:17
!!!
Post by: Valaris on Sat, 10 June 2017, 20:40:52
Post by: whatsinmybag on Sun, 11 June 2017, 01:58:07
Post by: Katanadog on Sun, 11 June 2017, 20:08:49
Post by: Fictiouz on Sun, 11 June 2017, 23:22:49
What's this? A picture from our logistics company?God damn, Jchan. SO MUCH HYPE. My number is relatively low so here's hoping you're shipping by number 🤞🏼Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZfxKzww.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mD0j3s5.png)
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Post by: ClearKeys on Mon, 12 June 2017, 07:59:17
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 12 June 2017, 23:38:54
thank you!
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 11:47:40
(http://i.imgur.com/j2JOuSW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RO6aC1M.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NklbmU3.jpg)
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Post by: shinz0 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 11:49:59
Courtesy of our Asia distributor: lovestreamShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/j2JOuSW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RO6aC1M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NklbmU3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8lbiifm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HhiVJzr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2lRcaeS.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YYtb4bR.jpg)
Looking great JChan!
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:06:51
Courtesy of our Asia distributor: lovestreamShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/j2JOuSW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RO6aC1M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NklbmU3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8lbiifm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HhiVJzr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2lRcaeS.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YYtb4bR.jpg)
HOT DAMN
that hydro blue looking sexy af
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:27:48
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:41:34
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:46:14
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Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:54:53
And maybe powdercoat:)
(http://i.imgur.com/MSCO2yu.jpg)
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:56:15
Rama has this awesome idea to make some PVD Blue weight (well, not just blue, but other colors as well)STOP MAKING ME WANT TO SPEND MONEY JCHAN AND RAMA. HAVE SOME DECENCY.
And maybe powdercoat:)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSCO2yu.jpg)
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Post by: imprevade on Tue, 13 June 2017, 14:07:09
Rama has this awesome idea to make some PVD Blue weight (well, not just blue, but other colors as well)
And maybe powdercoat:)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSCO2yu.jpg)
Next round of M65 should be all bright colors, like ipod nano varieties. (Red, blue, purple, pink, yellow, green, and orange.)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 13 June 2017, 14:31:31
Rama has this awesome idea to make some PVD Blue weight (well, not just blue, but other colors as well)
And maybe powdercoat:)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSCO2yu.jpg)
I'm in for one grey one to match my M65 if you do go ahead with this :D
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 13 June 2017, 17:07:38
I think it is possible to manufacture in HK from the same factory that made the s01 spinner
Oh and make simple black, silver kit for good measure.
For weight, I think brass weight should be first round exclusive, the second round can get powder coated SS or anodised aluminium.
I think we can also have different material choice for switch plate, polished stainless steel and black brass will be pretty damn nice:D
again, those are just an idea....
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 17:48:11
I recommend the next round of m65a happens at the start of next year, featuring all iconic Rama colour scheme(orange, purple, green, red) and Brass case(golden, PVD coated) as a special option for people who bought the first round of m65a
I think it is possible to manufacture in HK from the same factory that made the s01 spinner
Oh and make simple black, silver kit for good measure.
For weight, I think brass weight should be first round exclusive, the second round can get powder coated SS or anodised aluminium.
I think we can also have different material choice for switch plate, polished stainless steel and black brass will be pretty damn nice:D
again, those are just an idea....
Definitely a lot of cool ideas. thanks for your input! :D
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 14 June 2017, 04:54:15
RAW TITANIUM
eg.
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Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 14 June 2017, 05:17:54
here's another idea.I think the machining cost of raw titanium is a bit crazy don't you think?
RAW TITANIUM
eg.Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/71/77/09/717709a69dd4723cd6462a938938673b.jpg)
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 14 June 2017, 06:58:07
here's another idea.I think the machining cost of raw titanium is a bit crazy don't you think?
RAW TITANIUM
eg.Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/71/77/09/717709a69dd4723cd6462a938938673b.jpg)
I don't think the 3 buyers will care at all.
Post by: wongie on Wed, 14 June 2017, 08:20:36
I think the machining cost of raw titanium is a bit crazy don't you think?
Just how crazy are we talking about here for a machined raw-titanium case?
Post by: kmba on Wed, 14 June 2017, 09:21:11
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 14 June 2017, 11:14:19
Raw material costs 5-7 times more for titanium, it's more expensive to machine, and fewer shops can do it which drives up cost due to scarcity. It's not feasible in my opinion.
I agree but god damn would it be nice. Especially if we can get it heat cycled like that top.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 14 June 2017, 12:16:52
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 14 June 2017, 12:32:50
to do that effect, we just need a thin layer of titanium plated it... sooo making a huge block of titanium isn't really usefulRaw material costs 5-7 times more for titanium, it's more expensive to machine, and fewer shops can do it which drives up cost due to scarcity. It's not feasible in my opinion.
I agree but god damn would it be nice. Especially if we can get it heat cycled like that top.
Post by: CMYK on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:02:09
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:42:14
Post by: robbles on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:44:36
Just a couple suggestions :thumb:
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 14 June 2017, 15:33:07
Stainless Steel was explored before, but it was a tad out of reach.it will be really nice to have mirror finished ss plate, it will look and feel amazing:D
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 14 June 2017, 15:33:41
Hey jchan maybe the 4th run of the M65-A can have options for case made out of solid laser etched diamond with liquid platinum plate? The weight could be made of polished volcanic ruby (which has similar density to brass but less resonance to accommodate acoustic silencing).....wait, you thought I was joking?
Just a couple suggestions :thumb:
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 14 June 2017, 16:27:19
Rama has this awesome idea to make some PVD Blue weight (well, not just blue, but other colors as well)
And maybe powdercoat:)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MSCO2yu.jpg)
Holy Mary that looks good.I would love a matte black one to slop onto my SG :O Dang I need a black base, looks sogoodooodoododd
Post by: aznreaper on Wed, 14 June 2017, 17:08:46
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 14 June 2017, 21:29:38
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 15 June 2017, 04:34:35
jchan, plz look at my IG DM lol
Sending an E-Mail to support@keyclack.com yields much higher chances of getting through
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 07:39:21
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:20:57
Have asia's order shipped ?? Thanks
People in asia are posting their builds....so yes?
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:27:41
Have asia's order shipped ?? Thanks
People in asia are posting their builds....so yes?
Thanks, hope to get mine soon :p :p
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:52:33
if you ordered from the Taobao proxy bro you would have received it, if you ordered from jchan I think he's still processing the orders since they've arrived at his place :)Have asia's order shipped ?? Thanks
People in asia are posting their builds....so yes?
Thanks, hope to get mine soon :p :p
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:58:09
if you ordered from the Taobao proxy bro you would have received it, if you ordered from jchan I think he's still processing the orders since they've arrived at his place :)Have asia's order shipped ?? Thanks
People in asia are posting their builds....so yes?
Thanks, hope to get mine soon :p :p
I join in the GB without knowing about taobao proxy bro :( So i have to wait for more :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 15 June 2017, 10:11:24
if you ordered from the Taobao proxy bro you would have received it, if you ordered from jchan I think he's still processing the orders since they've arrived at his place :)Have asia's order shipped ?? Thanks
People in asia are posting their builds....so yes?
I feel you, we're all waiting.........
Thanks, hope to get mine soon :p :p
I join in the GB without knowing about taobao proxy bro :( So i have to wait for more :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 15 June 2017, 10:55:38
jchan, plz look at my IG DM lol
Sending an E-Mail to support@keyclack.com yields much higher chances of getting through
Ima just do that, thanks!
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 15 June 2017, 21:56:25
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 23:35:54
I'm sorry I missed this. I'll be trying for one of the extras, but I'm guessing they'll sell out in seconds. I hope you're willing to do another round. It sure seems like the demand is there, given how many people are reading this thread. I'll second the suggestion someone else made for offering the entire case in brass. One other finish you might want to consider for brass parts is silver plating. I'm not sure exactly what the composition of the silver plating used on brass musical instruments is (it doesn't tarnish as much as I'd expect if it were pure silver), but it's as pretty as brass gets. If you wanted to make the weight even heavier, a tungsten weight would probably make for a surprisingly unmovable keyboard.
I too dream of landing an extra, but I'm totally in for R2. **** I'd buy two probably :D.
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 16 June 2017, 12:03:55
I'm sorry I missed this. I'll be trying for one of the extras, but I'm guessing they'll sell out in seconds. I hope you're willing to do another round. It sure seems like the demand is there, given how many people are reading this thread. I'll second the suggestion someone else made for offering the entire case in brass. One other finish you might want to consider for brass parts is silver plating. I'm not sure exactly what the composition of the silver plating used on brass musical instruments is (it doesn't tarnish as much as I'd expect if it were pure silver), but it's as pretty as brass gets. If you wanted to make the weight even heavier, a tungsten weight would probably make for a surprisingly unmovable keyboard.
Tungsten weights were brought up in the unrelated Duck BlackBird/Orion weight group buy. I believe that the cost ended up being between $800-$900, and I think none ended up being ordered. Tungsten would be ridiculously cool, but unjustifiably cost prohibitive.
Post by: Auxo on Fri, 16 June 2017, 12:20:50
I'm sorry I missed this. I'll be trying for one of the extras, but I'm guessing they'll sell out in seconds. I hope you're willing to do another round. It sure seems like the demand is there, given how many people are reading this thread. I'll second the suggestion someone else made for offering the entire case in brass. One other finish you might want to consider for brass parts is silver plating. I'm not sure exactly what the composition of the silver plating used on brass musical instruments is (it doesn't tarnish as much as I'd expect if it were pure silver), but it's as pretty as brass gets. If you wanted to make the weight even heavier, a tungsten weight would probably make for a surprisingly unmovable keyboard.
Tungsten weights were brought up in the unrelated Duck BlackBird/Orion weight group buy. I believe that the cost ended up being between $800-$900, and I think none ended up being ordered. Tungsten would be ridiculously cool, but unjustifiably cost prohibitive.
What about.... a marble weight
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 16 June 2017, 14:22:51
(https://media.giphy.com/media/4PT6v3PQKG6Yg/giphy.gif)
Post by: wongie on Fri, 16 June 2017, 16:55:20
I'm sorry I missed this. I'll be trying for one of the extras, but I'm guessing they'll sell out in seconds. I hope you're willing to do another round. It sure seems like the demand is there, given how many people are reading this thread. I'll second the suggestion someone else made for offering the entire case in brass. One other finish you might want to consider for brass parts is silver plating. I'm not sure exactly what the composition of the silver plating used on brass musical instruments is (it doesn't tarnish as much as I'd expect if it were pure silver), but it's as pretty as brass gets. If you wanted to make the weight even heavier, a tungsten weight would probably make for a surprisingly unmovable keyboard.
Tungsten weights were brought up in the unrelated Duck BlackBird/Orion weight group buy. I believe that the cost ended up being between $800-$900, and I think none ended up being ordered. Tungsten would be ridiculously cool, but unjustifiably cost prohibitive.
What about.... a marble weight
I'm still waiting on the first maniac to make an osmium weight.
Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 16 June 2017, 17:08:21
Post by: jjwax on Sun, 18 June 2017, 13:43:33
Post by: imprevade on Sun, 18 June 2017, 15:32:26
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Still on track for mid-late June?
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 18 June 2017, 18:42:47
I can't weight any longer.10/10Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/4PT6v3PQKG6Yg/giphy.gif)
Post by: obviouslygene on Sun, 18 June 2017, 22:12:19
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 19 June 2017, 13:05:26
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Still on track for mid-late June?
I hope so. I need something to materialize soon, or I might go nuts. :blank:
Post by: rioc on Mon, 19 June 2017, 14:49:37
It should be in your hands in the USA by mid-late June. I plan on pumping these out as fast as I can. A few cups of green milk tea should do.
Still on track for mid-late June?
I hope so. I need something to materialize soon, or I might go nuts. :blank:
if I'm lucky I might get this and tric-80 at the same time :D
however I've got everthing ready for the m65... still have to mod some switches for the tric though
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 19 June 2017, 21:30:04
The shipment should be clearing customs soon, and then going to a forwarding company for temporary storage, then final forwarding to Keyclack HQ.
Looks like we're almost there. I expect it to arrive this week, or early next. The paper work is a tad more troublesome then expected, but we're almost there :thumb:
Cheers.
edit -
In other news, Rama and I have discussed a Round2, and we're currently talking over finishes, and colors. Not sure when however. There's still a few other things in the back burner :)
I'ma just leave this here:
(https://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/Surface_accessoryM_FeatureRightalign_V3_Burgundy.jpg?version=5a1a4703-b11c-43db-c9eb-945a331921d5)
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 19 June 2017, 21:31:02
Hi everyone,HYPE TRAIN. CHOO CHOO!
The shipment should be clearing customs soon, and then going to a forwarding company for temporary storage, then final forwarding to Keyclack HQ.
Looks like we're almost there. I expect it to arrive this week, or early next. The paper work is a tad more troublesome then expected, but we're almost there :thumb:
Cheers.
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Post by: Auxo on Mon, 19 June 2017, 22:08:54
Hi everyone,
The shipment should be clearing customs soon, and then going to a forwarding company for temporary storage, then final forwarding to Keyclack HQ.
Looks like we're almost there. I expect it to arrive this week, or early next. The paper work is a tad more troublesome then expected, but we're almost there :thumb:
Cheers.
edit -
In other news, Rama and I have discussed a Round2, and we're currently talking over finishes, and colors. Not sure when however. There's still a few other things in the back burner :)
I'ma just leave this here:Show Image(https://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/Surface_accessoryM_FeatureRightalign_V3_Burgundy.jpg?version=5a1a4703-b11c-43db-c9eb-945a331921d5)
M-13" laptops now???
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 19 June 2017, 23:31:52
Post by: rioc on Tue, 20 June 2017, 00:51:09
Hi everyone,
The shipment should be clearing customs soon, and then going to a forwarding company for temporary storage, then final forwarding to Keyclack HQ.
Looks like we're almost there. I expect it to arrive this week, or early next. The paper work is a tad more troublesome then expected, but we're almost there :thumb:
Cheers.
edit -
In other news, Rama and I have discussed a Round2, and we're currently talking over finishes, and colors. Not sure when however. There's still a few other things in the back burner :)
I'ma just leave this here:Show Image(https://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/Surface_accessoryM_FeatureRightalign_V3_Burgundy.jpg?version=5a1a4703-b11c-43db-c9eb-945a331921d5)
maroon colour huh? ... hmmm
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 20 June 2017, 08:07:03
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 20 June 2017, 09:45:41
Post by: consolelog on Tue, 20 June 2017, 10:11:23
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Post by: quanghuy1200 on Tue, 20 June 2017, 14:04:02
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 20 June 2017, 22:49:01
Hi everyone,
The shipment should be clearing customs soon, and then going to a forwarding company for temporary storage, then final forwarding to Keyclack HQ.
Looks like we're almost there. I expect it to arrive this week, or early next. The paper work is a tad more troublesome then expected, but we're almost there :thumb:
Cheers.
edit -
In other news, Rama and I have discussed a Round2, and we're currently talking over finishes, and colors. Not sure when however. There's still a few other things in the back burner :)
I'ma just leave this here:Show Image(https://c.s-microsoft.com/en-us/CMSImages/Surface_accessoryM_FeatureRightalign_V3_Burgundy.jpg?version=5a1a4703-b11c-43db-c9eb-945a331921d5)
Thanks for update JChan! And hot damn, I was gonna put plum on SG. Might need in on R2. Also. Please consider white finish if you want my wallet to open ;)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 22 June 2017, 07:49:17
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 22 June 2017, 08:49:53
The one thing that I'm still missing is a keyboard with an enamel ceramic white finish. Smooth cold and glossy.
That's what I was going for with the R1 norbauer case, but powdercoat is so hard to do perfectly, especially when there are any kind of seams. I ended up sending it back for silver anodized.
Many of the new customs are coming with a micro arc oxidation finish to achieve white aluminum, but the surface isn't truly smooth.
The good news is that Ryan is currently working on a Realforce case made of white corian! It should be super smooth and bright white. IC link https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89451.msg2420520#msg2420520
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 23 June 2017, 00:13:07
Post by: Shiro583 on Fri, 23 June 2017, 00:53:50
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 23 June 2017, 01:43:20
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 23 June 2017, 04:02:17
Can't wait! Someone's got a big brother on the way!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h16NI1R.jpg)
Oh my god, are you going to use the same key set? :D
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 23 June 2017, 08:01:35
Can't wait! Someone's got a big brother on the way!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h16NI1R.jpg)
Oh my god, are you going to use the same key set? :D
Absolutely ;)
Post by: rmendis on Fri, 23 June 2017, 23:45:11
And will it be shipped within US via USPS or some other carrier?
Thanks!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 24 June 2017, 01:19:54
I may have missed this, but is there a rough ETA for shipping to NA customers?
And will it be shipped within US via USPS or some other carrier?
Thanks!
Hasn't cleared customs yet :/
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Sat, 24 June 2017, 08:02:19
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 24 June 2017, 14:29:31
Will the Asia order be shipped by USPS ? Thanks
If you ordered through me, check the invoice. It states the shipping that will be used.
I believe all Asia orders are DHL, but don't quote me.
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Sat, 24 June 2017, 21:46:29
Thanks broWill the Asia order be shipped by USPS ? Thanks
If you ordered through me, check the invoice. It states the shipping that will be used.
I believe all Asia orders are DHL, but don't quote me.
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Post by: dyoungc on Sun, 25 June 2017, 17:10:40
Can someone confirm if this is T/F?
If it is true, what bottom row configurations would fit?
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 25 June 2017, 17:11:19
I remember seeing a mention of split spacebar compatibility with this PCB, but just wanted to clarify.
Can someone confirm if this is T/F?
If it is true, what bottom row configurations would fit?
(https://i.imgur.com/kqb4ySi.png)
Post by: dyoungc on Sun, 25 June 2017, 17:17:12
Thanks!I remember seeing a mention of split spacebar compatibility with this PCB, but just wanted to clarify.
Can someone confirm if this is T/F?
If it is true, what bottom row configurations would fit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kqb4ySi.png)
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Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 26 June 2017, 14:00:04
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 26 June 2017, 15:04:58
Me 2. Hoping for a nice update this week :DShow Image(http://media3.giphy.com/media/ZXKZWB13D6gFO/200.gif)
Post by: aggroxcraig on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:19:15
Me (Troy) waiting with my wife (Abed) everyday for my RAMABAE.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:48:11
(http://i.imgur.com/bSpLG4j.gif)
Post by: FioraCorp on Tue, 27 June 2017, 12:51:23
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:09:11
At least people in Asia are being thoughtful and aren't posting theirs constantly.
But I need to live vicariously through them until mine arrives..
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:20:17
this is now a waiting gif thread
k
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Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:33:54
At least people in Asia are being thoughtful and aren't posting theirs constantly.
I think it's mostly due to the Asian MK communities mostly hang about in their own forums and circles and not too many of them hang out on reddit, deskthority of geekhack...
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:47:51
this is now a waiting gif thread
kShow Image(https://giant.gfycat.com/VelvetyWearyBooby.gif)
That is brilliant!
Post by: dubious on Tue, 27 June 2017, 17:11:26
this is now a waiting gif thread
kShow Image(https://giant.gfycat.com/VelvetyWearyBooby.gif)
this guy group buys
Post by: FioraCorp on Wed, 28 June 2017, 00:20:34
this is now a waiting gif thread
k
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ScratchyIlliterateBufflehead.gif) (https://gfycat.com/VelvetyWearyBooby)
It's ****posting like this that makes delays worth it.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 28 June 2017, 01:02:01
holy ****this is now a waiting gif thread
k
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Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:01:11
At least people in Asia are being thoughtful and aren't posting theirs constantly.
I think it's mostly due to the Asian MK communities mostly hang about in their own forums and circles and not too many of them hang out on reddit, deskthority of geekhack...
Im fine with it, i dont want all the m65-a karma used up before I can get my post up. Its been hard out there on the streets of k-town lately
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:39:29
At least people in Asia are being thoughtful and aren't posting theirs constantly.We usually waiting too long for everything to ship to our country, so kinda familiar with this. Just mid July i hope it will be in front of my door step
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Post by: KingRama on Wed, 28 June 2017, 21:48:32
this is now a waiting gif thread
k
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ScratchyIlliterateBufflehead.gif) (https://gfycat.com/VelvetyWearyBooby)
hahahah this is fkn amazing
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 29 June 2017, 08:57:13
this is now a waiting gif thread
k
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ScratchyIlliterateBufflehead.gif) (https://gfycat.com/VelvetyWearyBooby)
hahahah this is fkn amazing
such an awesome gif. love yo **** kustom3
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 29 June 2017, 17:14:08
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 29 June 2017, 17:15:06
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
NUUUUU CUSTOMS Y U SO SLOW
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 29 June 2017, 18:52:55
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
NUUUUU CUSTOMS Y U SO SLOW
Out of curiousity, after you receive them (hopefully next week), then you do QA before shipping them out?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 29 June 2017, 18:58:38
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
NUUUUU CUSTOMS Y U SO SLOW
Out of curiousity, after you receive them (hopefully next week), then you do QA before shipping them out?
Yes. I'll be looking for exterior marks and anodization issues and such. Please note that internal blemishes might be there, but I guarantee the exterior will be :thumb:. Then shipping them out.
These should be 100% scratch free (on the exterior) since we packed them in their final boxes before shipping them out.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 30 June 2017, 01:20:17
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 >:( >:( >:(
on a sunday?
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 30 June 2017, 01:32:50
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 >:( >:( >:(
on a sunday?
/shrug
Customs, Docks, etc, unsure. I'm sure there's something to do everyday:P
Post by: rioc on Fri, 30 June 2017, 02:16:43
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 >:( >:( >:(
on a sunday?
/shrug
Customs, Docks, etc, unsure. I'm sure there's something to do everyday:P
true... gotta keep those jerbs
Post by: Enz0man on Fri, 30 June 2017, 16:46:13
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 30 June 2017, 16:58:39
Man I really hope i get mine before the Seattle meet... I need SOMETHING cool to bring
You should. I'll be there :thumb:
Post by: Enz0man on Fri, 30 June 2017, 17:59:19
Just bring it with you and i'll build it at the meet :cool:Man I really hope i get mine before the Seattle meet... I need SOMETHING cool to bring
You should. I'll be there :thumb:
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 01 July 2017, 03:13:26
I've been given word that Customs will release the pallets on 7-2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
NUUUUU CUSTOMS Y U SO SLOW
Out of curiousity, after you receive them (hopefully next week), then you do QA before shipping them out?
Yes. I'll be looking for exterior marks and anodization issues and such. Please note that internal blemishes might be there, but I guarantee the exterior will be :thumb:. Then shipping them out.
These should be 100% scratch free (on the exterior) since we packed them in their final boxes before shipping them out.
So exciting, Jchan! FYI: I sent you an email regarding shipping, when you have a moment to take a look. Many thanks!
Post by: RyuDragoon on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:22:23
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:27:30
Godspeed, or this.
Godspeed is scheduled for the 11th (****ing cheapest ****)
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 21:51:45
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Post by: childofthehorn on Mon, 03 July 2017, 01:36:51
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Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 03:23:49
Hey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
Post by: petrock on Mon, 03 July 2017, 06:54:38
Hey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
I know its probably too late, but based on the full sets left over, would it be possible to swap out for a different color base/full set based on what is available? I got the standard silver but god damn that matte black looks fantastic!
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 06:55:33
Same questionHey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
I know its probably too late, but based on the full sets left over, would it be possible to swap out for a different color base/full set based on what is available? I got the standard silver but god damn that matte black looks fantastic!
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Post by: Mr_Grandis on Mon, 03 July 2017, 07:02:54
Hey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
Just 40 extra units... ummm that's too little for the massive crowd lol
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:33:19
Hey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
Just 40 extra units... ummm that's too little for the massive crowd lol
Yeah, but the reality of it is at the time when the drop finished, it was only a handful of people that were like "oh man i didnt make the drop in time", then over the next few months till now, more and more people have joined JUST to ask about this, its crazy haha. 40 extra i think is NORMALLY fine, but the popularity of this kit skyrocketed AFTER this drop ended haha
Post by: sony on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:56:01
40 extras probably make up like more than 10% of all the boards. I think like 350 were ordered. That itself is a crazy number, but the hype has been growing.Hey Jchan, any possibility of changing out my Alu plate for one of the brass ones?
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Heyo,
For the plates, we won't be upgrading them. But they'll be available in the FCFS extras
We have about 22 extra brass plates.
40 extra units (complete sets, with feet, etc etc).
I forgot what other units there are , but I gotta take the inventory when it all comes in.
Just 40 extra units... ummm that's too little for the massive crowd lol
Yeah, but the reality of it is at the time when the drop finished, it was only a handful of people that were like "oh man i didnt make the drop in time", then over the next few months till now, more and more people have joined JUST to ask about this, its crazy haha. 40 extra i think is NORMALLY fine, but the popularity of this kit skyrocketed AFTER this drop ended haha
Post by: Auk on Mon, 03 July 2017, 13:43:54
over the next few months till now, more and more people have joined JUST to ask about this
I dare say being one of the keyboards used as the render showcase for recent very popular keysets has advertised the design for a lot longer and to a wider audience than the typical group buy.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 03 July 2017, 14:45:03
Post by: kolashnikov on Mon, 03 July 2017, 15:40:25
How would one go about getting one of these 40?
IIRC, it will be first-come, first-served on the keyclack website after the GB orders ship. There was supposed to be some kind of announcement as to when they will go on sale - not dropped as a surprise. So keep an eye on this thread for the sale announcement, and/or sign up for the keyclack newsletter. Then cross your fingers.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 18:23:15
Once the group buy shipment is out, full details will be given for the release time/date of the extras. These are a retail price, and the full details, including pricing will be provided on Instagram (@keyclack), Reddit, this thread, and the keyclack mailing list after the bulk buy ships. You will have at least, a 72 hour heads up.
Please remember, the units are first come, first serve. My website autoscales with traffic demand so it doesn't crash, but it hangs when it's hugged.
What can I buy in the extras?
- PCBs
- Plates (Brass and Aluminum)
- Bottoms (Nylon, and Aluminum)
- and Full Pre-Determined Kits.
What is a pre-determined kit?
- A kit that has the top, bottom, plate, and PCB in a box. They come as is, and won't change.
- Also, you're limited to 1 Full Kit Unit (you can add the other parts if you wish, such as extra plate, or pcb).
Is there a R2?
- Currently, none planned, but Rama and I will explore that idea after the M65A is in people's hands.
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I hope that clears things up, and hope you all get this soon. Cheers.
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 04 July 2017, 03:31:15
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 05:05:11
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 18:08:36
does the pallet arrived at your place??:D
It's july 4th today, so not word yet. Waiting for forwarding freight company to take over
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:10:50
which makes this buy very stupid...
I am looking at possible solutions, Anyone in Hong Kong wants to take my spot when the times comes?
I have a space grey / alu plate / nylon bottom
edit: typo
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:12:59
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Post by: Madēo on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:16:48
Its a sad day for me! :confused: i had hoped that if might ship out before i moved back to my home country where import tax gonna makes me pay around 150$ in import/custom fees
which makes this buy very stupid...
I am looking at possible solutions, Anyone in Hong Kong whats to take my spot when the times comes?
I have a space grey / alu plate / nylon bottom
Hey I am also in Hong Kong! I hope mine gets here too before I leave end of July :(
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:23:15
I am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:24:39
Its a sad day for me! :confused: i had hoped that if might ship out before i moved back to my home country where import tax gonna makes me pay around 150$ in import/custom fees
which makes this buy very stupid...
I am looking at possible solutions, Anyone in Hong Kong whats to take my spot when the times comes?
I have a space grey / alu plate / nylon bottom
Hey I am also in Hong Kong! I hope mine gets here too before I leave end of July :(
i have shipped multiple stuff from US to HK and every time it has taken 2-3 weeks :(
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:26:40
I am in VNI am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
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Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:27:47
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:29:57
I am in VNI am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
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maybe then you can make sense of this? :))
https://www.customs.gov.vn/default.aspx
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:31:07
Pls, i ship a board and said it was 80$ to avoid tax to KoreaI am in VNI am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
maybe then you can make sense of this? :))
https://www.customs.gov.vn/default.aspx
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Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:05:36
Pls, i ship a board and said it was 80$ to avoid tax to KoreaI am in VNI am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
maybe then you can make sense of this? :))
https://www.customs.gov.vn/default.aspx
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My understanding of contry codes is VN is vietnam :rolleyes: dont know what you mean...
Post by: Madēo on Wed, 05 July 2017, 03:46:07
i have shipped multiple stuff from US to HK and every time it has taken 2-3 weeks :(
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It's DHL to Asia so 2weeks tops right? No? I hope :'(
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 04:40:56
Jchan will ship declared!
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Being on the site, or not, the items were charged with the business paypal account and have to be written as such.
I'd prefer to stick to my local laws, sorry for the inconvenience.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 04:41:13
i have shipped multiple stuff from US to HK and every time it has taken 2-3 weeks :(
It's DHL to Asia so 2weeks tops right? No? I hope :'(
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Hopefully :) lol can you pick up mine? haha mong kok post office when the times comes :P
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 04:42:31
Jchan will ship declared!
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Being on the site, or not, the items were charged with the business paypal account and have to be written as such.
I'd prefer to stick to my local laws, sorry for the inconvenience.
Yeah offcouse! you have to :) was just wish thinking
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 04:52:07
I mean i ship from VN to Korea, said it was 80$ for a board to avoid taxPls, i ship a board and said it was 80$ to avoid tax to KoreaI am in VNI am worry about tax too, any word pls jchan
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Which country are you in? i could calculate on our customs gov site - ****ers
maybe then you can make sense of this? :))
https://www.customs.gov.vn/default.aspx
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My understanding of contry codes is VN is vietnam :rolleyes: dont know what you mean...
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Post by: Arallu on Wed, 05 July 2017, 10:44:08
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 05 July 2017, 11:46:57
Sorry, but no vendor is going to fudge customs numbers.
Yeah, it would be stupid on their part to do so. He could get in big trouble.. Especially as Keyclack grows, it will be more and more important to report accurate numbers... You know what you were signing up for, if you didn't then that's your own problem, not JChans..
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:11:34
Sorry, but no vendor is going to fudge customs numbers.
Yeah, it would be stupid on their part to do so. He could get in big trouble.. Especially as Keyclack grows, it will be more and more important to report accurate numbers... You know what you were signing up for, if you didn't then that's your own problem, not JChans..
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Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:53:38
Jchan will ship declared!
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Being on the site, or not, the items were charged with the business paypal account and have to be written as such.
I'd prefer to stick to my local laws, sorry for the inconvenience.
Just a thought when you do a GB on GH, please put it in the OP and clarify you are a official business registered vendor :) Thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:00:14
Hope to wrap the first hundred or so by next week. Cheers.
Post by: aznreaper on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:01:15
Jchan will ship declared!
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Being on the site, or not, the items were charged with the business paypal account and have to be written as such.
I'd prefer to stick to my local laws, sorry for the inconvenience.
RIP, custom fee's gonna rip me a new one
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:01:37
Jchan will ship declared!
But but but Jchan? this buy was not on keyclack? ergo privat buy? a chance for light maybe?
Being on the site, or not, the items were charged with the business paypal account and have to be written as such.
I'd prefer to stick to my local laws, sorry for the inconvenience.
Just a thought when you do a GB on GH, please put it in the OP and clarify you are a official business registered vendor :) Thanks!
Jchan's profile on the left denotes Keyclack Incorporated, so it's kind of right there already. Also might want to head over to the stickied post in the Vendor subforum, which this forum is located in for clarification.. Goes over the Vendor TOS which would have the information pertinent to your request!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86855.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86855.0)
Post by: Auk on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:03:16
Quote
geekhack » geekhack Marketplace » Vendor Forums » KeyClack
wasn't this GB always in this sub?
Post by: consolelog on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:05:02
Just got word that the freight company is picking up the pallets.
Hope to wrap the first hundred or so by next week. Cheers.
HYPE.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:07:14
Quotegeekhack » geekhack Marketplace » Vendor Forums » KeyClack
wasn't this GB always in this sub?
I think i recall at the the time that it was moved by a mod after.. but first timers should just be aware of this!
THATS ALL, Go pallets go!
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:27:45
Just got word that the freight company is picking up the pallets.
Hope to wrap the first hundred or so by next week. Cheers.
HYPE
Post by: delivery on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:02:34
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:06:42
Finally!!!!!!!!
Oh your username is so ironic. I love it. Haha.
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:17:36
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:12:41
Here's to hoping they ship out in the order of order numbers!
I believe they are gonna ship out by the pallet, in the order of boxes I can grab first. Each box contains 4 M65-A units. It's 3 pallets, so I think I barely have enough room to squeeze them through.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:42:56
Post by: Arallu on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:47:44
Any info on the QMK configurator tool, I seem to remember that was in the works?
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 05 July 2017, 18:01:26
Remember to bend at the knees!
Any info on the QMK configurator tool, I seem to remember that was in the works?
And also don't forget to eat plenty of ramen noodles to work through the night getting all these keyboards shipped out :thumb:
Post by: delivery on Wed, 05 July 2017, 19:02:48
Finally!!!!!!!!
Oh your username is so ironic. I love it. Haha.
hahahaha, true that!
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:20:02
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Have you sent the mail to everyone? Just asking cause I got no mail from you.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:26:26
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Have you sent the mail to everyone? Just asking cause I got no mail from you.
I emailed everyone.
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:53:17
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Have you sent the mail to everyone? Just asking cause I got no mail from you.
I emailed everyone.
My order number is M65-A-61. Can you send it again please. Thanks!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:54:39
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Have you sent the mail to everyone? Just asking cause I got no mail from you.
I emailed everyone.
My order number is M65-A-61. Can you send it again please. Thanks!
Ahh it's just asking for an address update. If you have one, please email support@keyclack.com, if not, then you're clear :)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:56:05
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Didn't get anything. Well, I also don't have to change my address, so it's whatever this time.
Other than that: HYPE
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:57:24
an email has been sent out to participants asking for an address update, cheerios.
Have you sent the mail to everyone? Just asking cause I got no mail from you.
I emailed everyone.
My order number is M65-A-61. Can you send it again please. Thanks!
Ahh it's just asking for an address update. If you have one, please email support@keyclack.com, if not, then you're clear :)
Ah, I see! :-) Should have read it twice :cool:
Post by: Enz0man on Thu, 06 July 2017, 10:25:19
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 10:55:14
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Post by: Enz0man on Thu, 06 July 2017, 13:29:22
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
Post by: KINGPIN on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:16:02
Post by: Merloobi on Thu, 06 July 2017, 18:31:11
Finger crossed for my 111 to be shipped
Order 404 here. I'm hoping that isn't a bad omen. :-X
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 07 July 2017, 03:11:06
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
I think everyone got express shipments, so it should be pretty fast. Gonna be a long week at the office next week. Gotta hit up AU79 -> http://www.au79teahouse.com/ for some Boba.
Anyways, I hope to try to pump it out in a week as I wrap up Budapest right now.
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 07 July 2017, 04:07:33
Error 404: Order not foundFinger crossed for my 111 to be shipped
Order 404 here. I'm hoping that isn't a bad omen. :-X
Post by: yonghf on Fri, 07 July 2017, 05:16:11
Guess I should be thankful that someone dropped out and I managed to get on the GB :)
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Fri, 07 July 2017, 08:00:37
I haven't saw my email, can u re-send it for invoice 480Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
I think everyone got express shipments, so it should be pretty fast. Gonna be a long week at the office next week. Gotta hit up AU79 -> http://www.au79teahouse.com/ for some Boba.
Anyways, I hope to try to pump it out in a week as I wrap up Budapest right now.
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Post by: pinky_chi on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:21:04
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
I think everyone got express shipments, so it should be pretty fast. Gonna be a long week at the office next week. Gotta hit up AU79 -> http://www.au79teahouse.com/ for some Boba.
Anyways, I hope to try to pump it out in a week as I wrap up Budapest right now.
Yesss Budapest!
BTW is it possible for people in LA to come pick it up directly from your place jchan?
Post by: doooostin on Fri, 07 July 2017, 18:49:29
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
I think everyone got express shipments, so it should be pretty fast. Gonna be a long week at the office next week. Gotta hit up AU79 -> http://www.au79teahouse.com/ for some Boba.
Anyways, I hope to try to pump it out in a week as I wrap up Budapest right now.
Yesss Budapest!
BTW is it possible for people in LA to come pick it up directly from your place jchan?
I've asked before, seems like he doesn't have the bandwidth to coordinate that (which is understandable).
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 07 July 2017, 19:13:22
Ooo boy this is going to be close... For Canada shipping, is there am estimated delivery time once you get it shipped?
Location doesn't matter. It matters what's in the box closest to me physically as ill just grab a box that's close to me and ship that one.
Oh I meant more of a "4-10 business days" sorta thing for whatever shipping method it is :-[
I think everyone got express shipments, so it should be pretty fast. Gonna be a long week at the office next week. Gotta hit up AU79 -> http://www.au79teahouse.com/ for some Boba.
Anyways, I hope to try to pump it out in a week as I wrap up Budapest right now.
Yesss Budapest!
BTW is it possible for people in LA to come pick it up directly from your place jchan?
I've asked before, seems like he doesn't have the bandwidth to coordinate that (which is understandable).
aha, it isn't a bandwidth thing. I just feel that I can pump these out faster than arranging a meet at the current stage. I definitely want people to come and meet and chat, but I have to get some work done :'( :'(
Hopefully, Q4 will treat me better :)
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 10 July 2017, 08:01:08
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 03:55:03
I should have the 3 pallets on Friday. Shipping to follow immediately after that.
Cheers!
Post by: kacase on Tue, 11 July 2017, 08:14:18
I apologize for the lack of update after customs
I should have the 3 pallets on Friday. Shipping to follow immediately after that.
Cheers!
H . Y . P . E .
Post by: Nonster on Tue, 11 July 2017, 08:52:19
I apologize for the lack of update after customs
I should have the 3 pallets on Friday. Shipping to follow immediately after that.
Cheers!
It's happening! Thanks for all the hard work jchan, I can't wait to get that sweet M65-A goodness in my hands.
HYPE
Post by: yokken on Tue, 11 July 2017, 09:11:58
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Post by: Kavik on Tue, 11 July 2017, 10:49:04
Awwwww yeah!!! Thankfully we'll have a few days notice before extras go up, so I might actually get that based brass plate. What are you guys gonna put on yours in terms of switches? Caps? I'll be trying out my still-sealed MX Silent Blacks, with lube to follow if they are as good as everyone says. Caps will likely be GMK Carbon because Carbon is just that good. And because LightCycle is still not here. :'( Must have patience! The wait is almost over, fam.
Y'know, LightCycle would look really nice on this, but I didn't think about that when I ordered it; I only got an ALPS set.
Since I don't have any fancy caps yet, I'll probably stick some cheap Tai Hao caps on there (Slate/Lilac alpha and Onyx/Onyx modifier) for now. Eventually, I may stick GMK Solarized Dark on it (if I end up joining that GB). As far as switches, I'm going to try out 67g Zealios that I've had sitting around. I have the space gray with silver bottom (and extra acrylic bottom) and brass plate and weight. It should look pretty, but every time I see the jet black version, I have a little bit of regret. Pretty sure it will blow my socks off regardless.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:59:22
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:14:16
When do we get that FTC regulations opt-in email? :-*
Your refund is already being processed bby ;D
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Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 19:46:37
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Feivis on Fri, 14 July 2017, 22:07:45
Post by: doooostin on Fri, 14 July 2017, 22:17:46
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:'(
Do you have an idea of how long after receiving shipment that you'll be able to ship them out? Had plans for a soldering weekend next weekend....
Post by: Auxo on Fri, 14 July 2017, 23:33:57
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:'(
Do you have an idea of how long after receiving shipment that you'll be able to ship them out? Had plans for a soldering weekend next weekend....
I think in an earlier post, jchan just said the shipping order is literally whatevre box is closest to him, so its pretty RNG from monday on haha
Post by: wongie on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:37:18
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Does this affect the extras going on sale on Monday as originally planned?
Post by: squeakypizza on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:38:00
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Post by: theillumedpanda on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:39:30
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 15 July 2017, 10:20:04
I see it already coming. It'll go live and I just miss it :D
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
I'm already prepared for that in all honesty. There are so many people that want it, and so few units. If we really wanted it, we should have gotten in on the buy, is my stance. You wait 'til now, you take your chances.
Post by: Auxo on Sat, 15 July 2017, 10:23:19
I see it already coming. It'll go live and I just miss it :D
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
I'm already prepared for that in all honesty. There are so many people that want it, and so few units. If we really wanted it, we should have gotten in on the buy, is my stance. You wait 'til now, you take your chances.
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Sat, 15 July 2017, 11:27:02
I see it already coming. It'll go live and I just miss it :D
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
He's said a couple times there will be a 72 hour notice.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 15 July 2017, 12:15:16
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Does this affect the extras going on sale on Monday as originally planned?
He's mentioned that the extras will go on sale at least 72hrs after all the regular orders have gone out. So yes, it does affect when the extras will go on sale. Although I don't think he's ever mentioned a hard date for the extras sale. He's always maintained that there will be a 72 hr warning before the sale.
Post by: wongie on Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:16:17
He's mentioned that the extras will go on sale at least 72hrs after all the regular orders have gone out. So yes, it does affect when the extras will go on sale. Although I don't think he's ever mentioned a hard date for the extras sale. He's always maintained that there will be a 72 hr warning before the sale.
Guess I'm remembering his Reddit post incorrectly with regards to extras and keyclack's return on Monday 17th. They probably weren't going live with the rest of his site which is maybe where I'm remembering wrong.
Post by: doooostin on Sat, 15 July 2017, 16:50:31
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:'(
Do you have an idea of how long after receiving shipment that you'll be able to ship them out? Had plans for a soldering weekend next weekend....
I think in an earlier post, jchan just said the shipping order is literally whatevre box is closest to him, so its pretty RNG from monday on haha
time to pray to rngesus heh.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 15 July 2017, 17:26:53
I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Does this affect the extras going on sale on Monday as originally planned?
He's mentioned that the extras will go on sale at least 72hrs after all the regular orders have gone out. So yes, it does affect when the extras will go on sale. Although I don't think he's ever mentioned a hard date for the extras sale. He's always maintained that there will be a 72 hr warning before the sale.
You will have a 72 hour heads up on the time of when the sale will be <-- This is correct aha.
No solidified date yet.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sun, 16 July 2017, 03:22:56
Partly true. Some people didn't have the money at the time or were simply expecting a bill coming up, were traveling abroad and whatnot. There are always reasons why people miss a certain group buy.I see it already coming. It'll go live and I just miss it :D
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
If we really wanted it, we should have gotten in on the buy, is my stance. You wait 'til now, you take your chances.
Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to it.I just got confirmation from our freight forwarder that we'll get it on Monday.
I came to the office so early to receive it today too :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Does this affect the extras going on sale on Monday as originally planned?
He's mentioned that the extras will go on sale at least 72hrs after all the regular orders have gone out. So yes, it does affect when the extras will go on sale. Although I don't think he's ever mentioned a hard date for the extras sale. He's always maintained that there will be a 72 hr warning before the sale.
You will have a 72 hour heads up on the time of when the sale will be <-- This is correct aha.
No solidified date yet.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 16 July 2017, 10:08:07
Partly true. Some people didn't have the money at the time or were simply expecting a bill coming up, were traveling abroad and whatnot. There are always reasons why people miss a certain group buy.I see it already coming. It'll go live and I just miss it :D
Edit: Jchan94, are you going to inform everybody beforehand or is it going live at a random time?
If we really wanted it, we should have gotten in on the buy, is my stance. You wait 'til now, you take your chances.
Though this is true and regrettable, the underlying point still remains the same. You don't get on the buy, you take your chances.
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Sun, 16 July 2017, 20:49:24
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Sun, 16 July 2017, 21:22:20
So I'm confused, jchan, are you shipping these out NOW and pulling whichever order is closest to you? Or not yet
He isn't getting the shipment till tomorrow, but he's said that after QA, he'll be grabbing the box closest to him and shipping it
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 17 July 2017, 04:54:19
Post by: kustom3 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 04:58:54
Its mondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Are we there yet? :rolleyes:
Show some mercy for the West Coast :rolleyes:
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 05:06:52
Its mondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Are we there yet? :rolleyes:
3AM . let me sleep fam :p :p :p :p :p
Post by: rioc on Mon, 17 July 2017, 06:59:53
Its mondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Are we there yet? ::)
Show some mercy for the West Coast ::)
west what? ...do you mean m65-a? Can I have mine delivered via a M65 Atomic-Annie?
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 17 July 2017, 07:50:58
Your address changed, didn't it?Its mondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Are we there yet? ::)
Show some mercy for the West Coast ::)
west what? ...do you mean m65-a? Can I have mine delivered via a M65 Atomic-Annie?
I'll drop jchan94 a message to change it accordingly...
You have way too many boards already, leave that one to me. :D<3
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 14:46:03
I'm double checking everyone's packing list right now, and hope to get this finalized soon. Cheers.
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 17 July 2017, 14:47:53
What a glorious morning. Just waiting for the trucker to arrive later, and then we'll get everything started.
I'm double checking everyone's packing list right now, and hope to get this finalized soon. Cheers.
Pack me baby one more time! Praying to RNGesus my box is close to your packing table!
Post by: avid on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:06:19
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:07:57
So will the m65 be availible from when the store launch or is it 72 hours from when jchan says the timer start?
72 Hours
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Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:08:39
So will the m65 be availible from when the store launch or is it 72 hours from when jchan says the timer start?
You will have a 72 hour heads up on the time of when the sale will be <-- This is correct aha.
No solidified date yet.
72 hrs from when Jchan says it starts
Post by: atomicus on Mon, 17 July 2017, 17:43:35
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 18:03:56
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
The aftermarket dictates itself. If you are willing to pay a price for something, you contribute to the aftermarket price. I.E. Yeezy or any other shoe.
I can't say anything about the aftermarket, but what I can do is offer a retail price for the extra units, and try to satisfy the aftermarket, so there aren't people hunting for this, and paying ridiculous prices. I hope the aftermarket is kind to everyone who genuinely wants one of these.
In any case, we'll try to offer a R2 as soon as we can.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 17 July 2017, 19:13:26
What a glorious morning. Just waiting for the trucker to arrive later, and then we'll get everything started.
I'm double checking everyone's packing list right now, and hope to get this finalized soon. Cheers.
Don't forget my extra PCB :))
Post by: doooostin on Mon, 17 July 2017, 22:02:00
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
Due to how limited this run is, the extensive marketing behind it, the comments on m65s on /r/mk, I'd wager the price hike being relatively high.
M-10as are going for a decent price, and that had a much bigger supply run r1.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 July 2017, 22:50:07
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
i know like 10 people who bought to flip so just make sure to get one as soon as they start shipping and you'll probably only pay 10-20% more than GB
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 22:55:55
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Post by: Atredl on Mon, 17 July 2017, 23:40:52
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
i know like 10 people who bought to flip so just make sure to get one as soon as they start shipping and you'll probably only pay 10-20% more than GB
This is assuming you don't get one of the extras directly from Jchan, of course.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:06:43
Finally, can't wait to see it :) Poor international like me :( Have to wait longer
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Post by: quanghuy1200 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:14:27
Finally, can't wait to see it :) Poor international like me :( Have to wait longer
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I will assem it as soon as i get it. Hope it will be quick as you said :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Thanks
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 01:03:19
(https://media.tenor.com/images/4b7399689d7c8d618b7ea21bcec6be6d/tenor.gif)With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
i know like 10 people who bought to flip so just make sure to get one as soon as they start shipping and you'll probably only pay 10-20% more than GB
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 01:43:38
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 July 2017, 07:08:58
With the amount of people who bought in, I'm sure youll see some sets up for sale on mm
I'm not familiar with the history of any previous Rama products, but are these likely to go for a MAHOOSIVE mark up on mechmarket? Would people stand for that and would it be frowned upon... or is demand going to be so high that people will gladly be paying double the original price?
i know like 10 people who bought to flip so just make sure to get one as soon as they start shipping and you'll probably only pay 10-20% more than GB
This is assuming you don't get one of the extras directly from Jchan, of course.
Ya ya ofc
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Tue, 18 July 2017, 13:09:46
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Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 19 July 2017, 10:04:24
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Post by: quanghuy1200 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 14:11:49
Post by: Nonster on Wed, 19 July 2017, 15:27:21
65g Zealios
White LED's with SIP
Godspeed
Apollo Kosmo
Now I just need the M65-A and my dream board will be complete!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: theillumedpanda on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:00:16
I have everything ready for my M65-AOh, very nice! Which colour did you choose?
65g Zealios
White LED's with SIP
Godspeed
Apollo Kosmo
Now I just need the M65-A and my dream board will be complete!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: Nonster on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:06:53
I have everything ready for my M65-AOh, very nice! Which colour did you choose?
65g Zealios
White LED's with SIP
Godspeed
Apollo Kosmo
Now I just need the M65-A and my dream board will be complete!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Space Grey :)
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:20:37
Now I just need the M65-A and my dream board will be complete!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Then the dream will start anew :P
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:44:27
Instagram @keyclack
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:48:34
(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)
Post by: delivery on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:50:04
It is a good day.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:52:36
It is a good day.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)
Whoa, puts it really into perspective how much work that is... good luck. And don't overexert yourself :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:56:15
I am so sorry for being AFK (ha. funny, get it? KEYBOARDS. HA) for the past few days.
The logistics company that we used this time was REALLY unprofessional, and had delayed our shipment from coming for OVER a week after clearing customs. It's bonkers. This logistics company was recommended to us, but we are NOT using them in the future. We will use my logistic company from now on that helps us clear GMK, and other things in like 3 days with delivery.
Anyways, the keyboards are here, and the size looks smaller than expected, but it's only like 400 keyboards, right?
Tomorrow I need to prepare and clean up, and wrap up Budapest/Maxkeys. Friday, I'm flying to Seattle, so shipping starts on MONDAY. We'll probably go through them slowly, then speed things up as we get accustom to issues that we may face when reviewing the boards.
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Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:29:37
After many talks with Rama in the past few months, and in the past week (when he came to LA), we came to the conclusion that we clearly don't have enough units to make everyone happy. After this round wraps up 100%, we will be planning our R2, I'll be overlooking my logistics to streamline them in order to get a faster turnaround time, and planning my QC trip to Asia.
Cheers everyone & photos to come tomorrow. Here are some photos you can and should expect.
- M65A Rose Gold w/ SA Grand Budapest
- M65A Gold w/ GMK PLUM
- M65A Matte Black w/ Maxkeys SA Cyan on Dolch
- M65A Hydro Blue w/ GMK Hydro
- M65A Silver w/ GMK SoWaRe
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:36:43
Also, I wanted to say, thank you all for supporting the M65-A project. Rama and I are truly excited to get this out to everyone. I started to look back at the time that I started the M65A. I had just graduated from Uni, and I was spending the summer at my office on Venice Blvd. I can't believe that it's almost been a year since I talked to Rama about making this awesome board, and now we're here - Exactly 11 months later.
After many talks with Rama in the past few months, and in the past week (when he came to LA), we came to the conclusion that we clearly don't have enough units to make everyone happy. After this round wraps up 100%, we will be planning our R2, I'll be overlooking my logistics to streamline them in order to get a faster turnaround time, and planning my QC trip to Asia.
Cheers everyone & photos to come tomorrow. Here are some photos you can and should expect.
- M65A Rose Gold w/ SA Grand Budapest
- M65A Gold w/ GMK PLUM
- M65A Matte Black w/ Maxkeys SA Cyan on Dolch
- M65A Hydro Blue w/ GMK Hydro
- M65A Silver w/ GMK SoWaRe
So excited - can't decide if I want to daily my Hydro Blue or my Space Grey!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 19 July 2017, 18:54:04
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 19 July 2017, 20:43:24
After many talks with Rama in the past few months, and in the past week (when he came to LA), we came to the conclusion that we clearly don't have enough units to make everyone happy. After this round wraps up 100%, we will be planning our R2, I'll be overlooking my logistics to streamline them in order to get a faster turnaround time, and planning my QC trip to Asia.
For those who are hard of hearing
Post by: clickstops on Wed, 19 July 2017, 22:25:53
I hope the plum board is champagne rather than rose gold and you mis ruled, but I'll be happy to see it either way. Really curious to see how champagne pairs with key sets.
Post by: Feivis on Thu, 20 July 2017, 00:27:38
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 01:41:06
After many talks with Rama in the past few months, and in the past week (when he came to LA), we came to the conclusion that we clearly don't have enough units to make everyone happy. After this round wraps up 100%, we will be planning our R2, I'll be overlooking my logistics to streamline them in order to get a faster turnaround time, and planning my QC trip to Asia.
For those who are hard of hearing
Time to start saving or else I might not be able to buy all the colors :D
Post by: madindehead on Thu, 20 July 2017, 02:03:11
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 02:05:13
Post by: kmba on Thu, 20 July 2017, 09:18:34
Post by: Enz0man on Thu, 20 July 2017, 10:07:20
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 11:33:22
Is private Jchan shipping to the Seattle meetup an option? :p
Yo bro,
Email me jchan@keyclack.com with this info. I gotcha.
See you there.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:53:30
You can check it out on Instagram @keyclack via Story.
Also, I'll have some pictures up tonight.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:57:34
Opened the first few boxes of M65-A. They look amazing.
You can check it out on Instagram @keyclack via Story.
Also, I'll have some pictures up tonight.
Please, BB. Don't tease me like this. :-*
Post by: consolelog on Thu, 20 July 2017, 20:45:47
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Post by: breusch91 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 20:59:55
Opened the first few boxes of M65-A. They look amazing.
You can check it out on Instagram @keyclack via Story.
Also, I'll have some pictures up tonight.
feel free to open M65-A-427 really soon, QC it, and ship it to me so I have it by Aug 5th for the NYC meetup, I promise I will not be angry at you at all! ;) ;) ;)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 21:33:38
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 20 July 2017, 23:07:15
Everyone should go to Seattle Meetup this Saturday to go see them IRL. They look awesome.
What if we can't? :c
Post by: base on Thu, 20 July 2017, 23:23:35
Opened the first few boxes of M65-A. They look amazing.
You can check it out on Instagram @keyclack via Story.
Also, I'll have some pictures up tonight.
feel free to open M65-A-427 really soon, QC it, and ship it to me so I have it by Aug 5th for the NYC meetup, I promise I will not be angry at you at all! ;) ;) ;)
Yes ditto for M65-A-179 for the August 5th Charleston SC meetup ;) :))
Seriously though, the sneak peeks so far are looking amazing! Thanks for sharing with us!
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 21 July 2017, 01:00:43
Probably the only one in Singapore!
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 01:02:59
Ima try to get all of these out in the next 2 weeks. 14 day.... About 30 a day? That's not that difficult.
Jk, let's do 10 days. This is taking a car space in my warehouse. Gotta get it out.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 01:40:47
Everyone should go to Seattle Meetup this Saturday to go see them IRL. They look awesome.
Wanna fly me in? :))
But seriously, I actually thought about coming, would be expensive as **** but probably worth. The thing is I've got an exam on Tuesday :/
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 21 July 2017, 01:42:24
M-65A-085 for the Singapore meet up!bruh
Probably the only one in Singapore!
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 21 July 2017, 02:05:46
M-65A-085 for the Singapore meet up!bruh
Probably the only one in Singapore!
No way. Another Singaporean here? :D
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 02:15:17
M-65A-085 for the Singapore meet up!bruh
Probably the only one in Singapore!
No way. Another Singaporean here? :D
I believe that there are more keyboard people in SG than you think.
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 21 July 2017, 04:39:17
Post by: kacase on Fri, 21 July 2017, 04:49:18
Please have polished coated brass top for R2 :'(
That would be mind-blowing! :eek:
And imagine the patina it would get over time! :-*
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 21 July 2017, 04:58:00
And think of the amazing combination it can make with the hydro blue bottom...aww yeahPlease have polished coated brass top for R2 :'(
That would be mind-blowing! :eek:
And imagine the patina it would get over time! :-*
Perhaps it can even be plated with shiny bling bling gold ;) (although that will definitely bring the price up by around 10%)
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 21 July 2017, 10:54:03
for real though you'd be surprised, there's a fb group and stuff, and quite a few meetups.M-65A-085 for the Singapore meet up!bruh
Probably the only one in Singapore!
No way. Another Singaporean here? :D
anyway back on topic HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 12:48:22
Also, I'll take better pictures when I get back. These are done in my living room, so they're not that great.
See these boards at the Seattle Meetup! Info here - https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6blkn0/seattle_mechanical_keyboard_meetup_july_22nd/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=MechanicalKeyboards (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6blkn0/seattle_mechanical_keyboard_meetup_july_22nd/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=MechanicalKeyboards)
(https://i.imgur.com/OPncMm3.jpg)
Black Matte w/ Maxkey SA Cyan on Dolch
(http://i.imgur.com/jtDdyQn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dTjgvY1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EmFWrEO.jpg)
Champagne with Rose Gold Alu Bottom w/ GMK Plum
(http://i.imgur.com/XO4M7sV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lZg4bIu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KW2KMzf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Gt8FC8M.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)
Rose Gold w/ SA Grand Budapest
(http://i.imgur.com/K1Iir5l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GZAleF4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NSolgtC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Wc1JCKE.jpg)
Hydro Blue w/ GMK Hydro
(http://i.imgur.com/LNnfDTn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/B7vXFZl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg3tyqs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hJGYpnF.jpg)
Space Grey w/ GMK SoWaRe
(http://i.imgur.com/AvY7K6s.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ONSNTyM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m1aP9rd.jpg)
Silver w Brass Plate (waiting for GMK Muted)
(http://i.imgur.com/18f1ARu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zODRCZY.jpg)
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:13:54
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:14:47
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:25:26
As promised, here are the photos. Sorry they took a day longer. It took a whole day to pack for the Seattle Meetup, and these boards aren't assembled, but I think you have a good picture of what to expect and such.
Also, I'll take better pictures when I get back. These are done in my living room, so they're not that great.
See these boards at the Seattle Meetup! Info here - https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6blkn0/seattle_mechanical_keyboard_meetup_july_22nd/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=MechanicalKeyboards (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6blkn0/seattle_mechanical_keyboard_meetup_july_22nd/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=MechanicalKeyboards)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OPncMm3.jpg)
Black Matte w/ Maxkey SA Cyan on DolchShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jtDdyQn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dTjgvY1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EmFWrEO.jpg)
Champagne with Rose Gold Alu Bottom w/ GMK PlumShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/XO4M7sV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lZg4bIu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KW2KMzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Gt8FC8M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VC9om8b.jpg)
Rose Gold w/ SA Grand BudapestShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/K1Iir5l.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GZAleF4.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NSolgtC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Wc1JCKE.jpg)
Hydro Blue w/ GMK HydroShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LNnfDTn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B7vXFZl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Pg3tyqs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hJGYpnF.jpg)
Space Grey w/ GMK SoWaReShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/AvY7K6s.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ONSNTyM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m1aP9rd.jpg)
Silver w Brass Plate (waiting for GMK Muted)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/18f1ARu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zODRCZY.jpg)
Such a killer post with all the killer color-combinations!!!
Post by: Enz0man on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:30:33
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 July 2017, 15:09:55
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 21 July 2017, 15:17:39
I honestly can't tell the difference between space gray and silver. Hope the space gray is a bit darker w/o the flash
Hard to capture because of how reflective the metal is with light. Super distinguishable irl.
I'll take a studio photo when I'm back.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 July 2017, 15:25:06
I honestly can't tell the difference between space gray and silver. Hope the space gray is a bit darker w/o the flash
Hard to capture because of how reflective the metal is with light. Super distinguishable irl.
I'll take a studio photo when I'm back.
By the way, thanks for the photos. I appreciate how you are keeping us informed and updated.
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 21 July 2017, 18:13:06
Post by: Madēo on Sat, 22 July 2017, 00:51:25
Can't wait for this!
Post by: Marutks on Sat, 22 July 2017, 09:14:39
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Sat, 22 July 2017, 11:13:47
As promised, here are the photos. Sorry they took a day longer. It took a whole day to pack for the Seattle Meetup, and these boards aren't assembled, but I think you have a good picture of what to expect and such.
Also, I'll take better pictures when I get back. These are done in my living room, so they're not that great.
Hydro Blue w/ GMK HydroShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LNnfDTn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B7vXFZl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Pg3tyqs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hJGYpnF.jpg)
This Hydro Blue will be my first board that isn't some kind of neutral color and I'm stoked about it, it's so vibrant!! :o
Post by: lunr on Sat, 22 July 2017, 15:00:52
Post by: kmba on Sat, 22 July 2017, 15:33:19
Silver M65A with gmk muted and silver Rama wave cherry profile. Jchan x Rama x jchan x Rama special.
Can't wait to see the silver paired with GMK Muted. That's going to be top.
That's what I'm going for. Although now I wish I spent the extra $20 for an aluminum bottom.
Post by: _cramil on Sat, 22 July 2017, 22:01:50
Kinda wishing I got an aluminum bottom in addition to the nylon. They look great!Silver M65A with gmk muted and silver Rama wave cherry profile. Jchan x Rama x jchan x Rama special.Can't wait to see the silver paired with GMK Muted. That's going to be top.
That's what I'm going for. Although now I wish I spent the extra $20 for an aluminum bottom.
Post by: BAS1C on Sat, 22 July 2017, 23:20:28
Kinda wishing I got an aluminum bottom in addition to the nylon. They look great!Silver M65A with gmk muted and silver Rama wave cherry profile. Jchan x Rama x jchan x Rama special.Can't wait to see the silver paired with GMK Muted. That's going to be top.
That's what I'm going for. Although now I wish I spent the extra $20 for an aluminum bottom.
me 2
Post by: UTEster750 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 06:41:58
Post by: kitchenace13 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 14:53:02
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:28:25
For those wishing they had gone for the aluminum bottoms, in a few weeks hes going to open up the extras sale and should have extra bottoms I believe.
Kinda sad jchan94's logistics don't allow for grouping with the GB order though. I'd have gone for an extra alu bottom but no way I'm going for DHL shipping and
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:38:11
For those wishing they had gone for the aluminum bottoms, in a few weeks hes going to open up the extras sale and should have extra bottoms I believe.
Kinda sad jchan94's logistics don't allow for grouping with the GB order though. I'd have gone for an extra alu bottom but no way I'm going for DHL shipping andextortionimport fees twice on this. Oh well.
I feel like that'd be unfair, as those who are in the GB have waited a while to get their boards, and I want to get them out asap. During the GB (participation period), people had the opportunity to change their orders, which many did, such as color, or upgrading this or that. But after the payment was made, it was pretty much locked in.
Waiting to get an extra piece ordered would take a long time because there's no clear date on when the extras will be up as well, so I'd have to just keep the box here for a while and that's only help if you would be able to get an extra.
At the current state, I'm really worried, and by the sounds of chatter, there aren't enough units available which is unfortunate.
So I hope you find my decision fair, although, not in your favor. Sorry mate :(
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:40:55
Shipping to start tomorrow, cheers and have a good day.
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:46:15
For those wishing they had gone for the aluminum bottoms, in a few weeks hes going to open up the extras sale and should have extra bottoms I believe.
Kinda sad jchan94's logistics don't allow for grouping with the GB order though. I'd have gone for an extra alu bottom but no way I'm going for DHL shipping andextortionimport fees twice on this. Oh well.
I feel like that'd be unfair, as those who are in the GB have waited a while to get their boards, and I want to get them out asap. During the GB (participation period), people had the opportunity to change their orders, which many did, such as color, or upgrading this or that. But after the payment was made, it was pretty much locked in.
Waiting to get an extra piece ordered would take a long time because there's no clear date on when the extras will be up as well, so I'd have to just keep the box here for a while and that's only help if you would be able to get an extra.
At the current state, I'm really worried, and by the sounds of chatter, there aren't enough units available which is unfortunate.
So I hope you find my decision fair, although, not in your favor. Sorry mate :(
No worries jchan, I called it sad, not unfair. If anything, that's on me for not realizing earlier I should've gone for an extra alu bottom.
I also understand how you're working with limited space and handling multiple GBs at the same time, so keeping boxes on the side for people like me can be hard. Even when willing to delay a shipment and gamble they'll be fast enough to grab extras.
:thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:49:54
In any case, I'll get this out asap for you to enjoy :)
Post by: Arallu on Sun, 23 July 2017, 15:52:14
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 23 July 2017, 18:21:53
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 23 July 2017, 20:35:07
After seeing the variety of M65's at the recent Seattle meetup, and experiencing Alps based boards, it would be awesome if there was an Alps plate for R2.
Jchan provided the plate files, you can simply modify it yourself and have a plate cut. Offering a factory plate is not feasible for Alps, since it is not possible to have an universal Alps plate (because of the nature of mounting Alps switches, all Alps plates have to be cut completely specific to the keycaps being used, with regards to the keycap spacing as well as the type of stabiliser used).
Also, even if an Alps plate is offered, what PCB are you gonna use with it? There are no Alps 68% PCBs currently on the market.
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 20:39:08
R2 is gonna be sick, but let's not look too far ahead. We still have a lot to settle for this one!
Won't caps be difficult to find for it though?
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 23 July 2017, 21:47:22
After seeing the variety of M65's at the recent Seattle meetup, and experiencing Alps based boards, it would be awesome if there was an Alps plate for R2.
Jchan provided the plate files, you can simply modify it yourself and have a plate cut. Offering a factory plate is not feasible for Alps, since it is not possible to have an universal Alps plate (because of the nature of mounting Alps switches, all Alps plates have to be cut completely specific to the keycaps being used, with regards to the keycap spacing as well as the type of stabiliser used).
Also, even if an Alps plate is offered, what PCB are you gonna use with it? There are no Alps 68% PCBs currently on the market.
I didn't realize that barrier. I enjoyed myself so much at the meet I got a little ahead of self. I really fell in love with the various small keyboards like the Fjell, minivan at the meet so I was hoping to be able to combine Alps and 65% together.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 23 July 2017, 23:50:25
Someone a while back asked me about alps and said he's down to make the pcb and plate, and I'm open to offering it in r2 and a plate combo.
R2 is gonna be sick, but let's not look too far ahead. We still have a lot to settle for this one!
Won't caps be difficult to find for it though?
ALPS people are resourceful, don't worry about them
Post by: UTEster750 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 06:03:14
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 06:19:28
Won't caps be difficult to find for it though?
The hardest part will be accommodating for all the different stabilizer types and orientations.
Universal alps plates also aren't that much of a thing because they clip in to the west and east side instead of north and south.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 24 July 2017, 08:23:02
Won't caps be difficult to find for it though?
The hardest part will be accommodating for all the different stabilizer types and orientations.
Universal alps plates also aren't that much of a thing because they clip in to the west and east side instead of north and south.
^^
Basically what I said
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 09:21:30
Won't caps be difficult to find for it though?
The hardest part will be accommodating for all the different stabilizer types and orientations.
Universal alps plates also aren't that much of a thing because they clip in to the west and east side instead of north and south.
^^
Basically what I said
Whoops, my brain skipped the first paragraph after the first sentence for some reason.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 24 July 2017, 09:31:14
Post by: MojoBandit on Mon, 24 July 2017, 09:36:24
I assume R2 components will be compatible with R1? Like, if I wanted to order just an alu bottom or a second plate/pcb?
Really interested about this as well.
Post by: VentureG on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:26:28
Post by: heyitsqi on Mon, 24 July 2017, 12:48:13
Totally unrelated but I would love a similar design in a 60% form factor. Total dream board. Looking forward to extras/R2!
Second a 60%. Right now considering waiting for the Fjell so I think it'd come to whoever came first :p
Post by: therealmckellar on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:07:04
I assume R2 components will be compatible with R1? Like, if I wanted to order just an alu bottom or a second plate/pcb?They literally haven't even started thinking about this. All they're trying to do is ship R1 right now then the sale of leftovers. Why would they know anything about R2?
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Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 14:18:51
I assume R2 components will be compatible with R1? Like, if I wanted to order just an alu bottom or a second plate/pcb?They literally haven't even started thinking about this. All they're trying to do is ship R1 right now then the sale of leftovers. Why would they know anything about R2?
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This literally makes no sense. I feel like they should have some idea if they plan to redesign components regardless of if they have started to do so or not.
I don't quite get the apprehension around talking about R2 now. I don't feel like anyone expects jchan to prioritize R2 over shipping or extras. People are just excited about this keyboard and they wanna make sure they can get it.
I totally plan to try and get an extra, but tbh, I don't expect to land one since I doubt there really are that many. I also wanna plan ahead to make sure I have the money ready to get at least 1-2 from R2. That doesn't mean anyone is demanding R2 immediately. TBH, in a month or two would be even easier. I've spent a lot this month.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 24 July 2017, 15:19:02
I assume R2 components will be compatible with R1? Like, if I wanted to order just an alu bottom or a second plate/pcb?They literally haven't even started thinking about this. All they're trying to do is ship R1 right now then the sale of leftovers. Why would they know anything about R2?
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The simple fact that jchan has spoken about r2 means they have though about r2. Unless he's speaking in tongues and channeling the word of the keyboard God's when typing r2 in this thread. So, it feels pretty safe to ask if r2 will be a rerun of the same, if there will be changes, or if no decision has been made.
Post by: MojoBandit on Mon, 24 July 2017, 15:36:56
I assume R2 components will be compatible with R1? Like, if I wanted to order just an alu bottom or a second plate/pcb?They literally haven't even started thinking about this. All they're trying to do is ship R1 right now then the sale of leftovers. Why would they know anything about R2?
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The simple fact that jchan has spoken about r2 means they have though about r2. Unless he's speaking in tongues and channeling the word of the keyboard God's when typing r2 in this thread. So, it feels pretty safe to ask if r2 will be a rerun of the same, if there will be changes, or if no decision has been made.
You are all completely wrong. R2 is in fact the codename for the next Rama project, the RAMA 2, a binary keyboard.
Because let's face it, who needs 65 keys when you have a one and a zero key.
Now stop asking questions and wait quietly next to your mailbox like the rest of us.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 15:46:41
To clarify, we'll be planning our r2 after we finish this. With the response from the community, we wanted to make sure that people who wanted the m65a, are able to get one. By mentioning it, I want to try to assure people that they'll have the opportunity to have this beautiful keyboard.
This lead me to start pondering on at least the colors we want to offer for the second round, and that's the only thing we have set for now. There is no timeline, just a general idea of a plan, such as streamlining our logistics to have a faster turnaround.
In any case, alps and such, might be included, but it's uncertain. The greatest thing about customs is that you make it your own, and offering the alps option, would be fantastic to help you achieve your personal board. We don't have any reworked electronics for it currently, so keep this in mind.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 24 July 2017, 16:09:52
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 24 July 2017, 16:29:36
Can we start talking about round 3? I'd really like to see some way to include a bottle opener into the PCB, and definitely needs to be VR-compatible
Just as long as the VR is NORDE kit compatible, oh, and I'm need a 10u spacebar or it's trash
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 25 July 2017, 00:17:03
Hi everyone,
To clarify, we'll be planning our r2 after we finish this. With the response from the community, we wanted to make sure that people who wanted the m65a, are able to get one. By mentioning it, I want to try to assure people that they'll have the opportunity to have this beautiful keyboard.
This lead me to start pondering on at least the colors we want to offer for the second round, and that's the only thing we have set for now. There is no timeline, just a general idea of a plan, such as streamlining our logistics to have a faster turnaround.
In any case, alps and such, might be included, but it's uncertain. The greatest thing about customs is that you make it your own, and offering the alps option, would be fantastic to help you achieve your personal board. We don't have any reworked electronics for it currently, so keep this in mind.
Colours? Don’t leave us hanging dude!
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 00:36:59
Hi everyone,
To clarify, we'll be planning our r2 after we finish this. With the response from the community, we wanted to make sure that people who wanted the m65a, are able to get one. By mentioning it, I want to try to assure people that they'll have the opportunity to have this beautiful keyboard.
This lead me to start pondering on at least the colors we want to offer for the second round, and that's the only thing we have set for now. There is no timeline, just a general idea of a plan, such as streamlining our logistics to have a faster turnaround.
In any case, alps and such, might be included, but it's uncertain. The greatest thing about customs is that you make it your own, and offering the alps option, would be fantastic to help you achieve your personal board. We don't have any reworked electronics for it currently, so keep this in mind.
Colours? Don’t leave us hanging dude!
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess some sort of navy for Yuri/Nautilus/CalmDepths. Perhaps some pink/purple for Laser? And maybe something to go with Solarized Dark? Oh, also maybe orange for Carbon and/or Red for Forge? (I'm so screwed if all those colors actually happen :P). I for one would love a green one for Senna, but I didn't think about a 65% when I ordered it so I'd have to find something for the right of enter >_<.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 25 July 2017, 01:00:10
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 25 July 2017, 01:25:23
I'd be in again for R2 if there was Titanium/Selenite Grey, somthing two thirds the way between Spacegray and Black :rolleyes:
+1
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 25 July 2017, 01:47:03
I'd be in again for R2 if there was Titanium/Selenite Grey, somthing two thirds the way between Spacegray and Black :rolleyes:
Gunmetal please.
Also, copper/bronze!
Post by: Madēo on Tue, 25 July 2017, 02:29:20
Post by: UTEster750 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 06:17:58
I'd really like to see Anodised Relic (Purple) & Corona (Bronze Orange) RAMA colours for R2.
Bronze orange would look really nice.
Post by: yokken on Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:43:16
I'd really like to see Anodised Relic (Purple) & Corona (Bronze Orange) RAMA colours for R2.
Bronze orange would look really nice.
Oh yes indeed. But then I would be torn between that and navy blue. :'(
Post by: Dominathan on Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:11:59
Post by: TelFiRE on Tue, 25 July 2017, 12:36:24
Maybe I'll get the pitchforks, but what about USB-C for R2? RGB? Maybe team up with Zeal for the perfect board and case?
The problem with this is I would need new pants
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:33:01
221 emails on just the rubber feet.
Post by: blackginger on Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:43:43
To all the people requesting features: go watch jchan's talk at the Seattle meetup.
221 emails on just the rubber feet.
I'd love to, where can I find this?
Post by: ambalek on Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:04:27
To all the people requesting features: go watch jchan's talk at the Seattle meetup.
221 emails on just the rubber feet.
I'd love to, where can I find this?
It's on their Twitch topclack panel streams: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/161160995
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:14:05
It's on their Twitch topclack panel streams: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/161160995
Video of his talk starts around 48 minute mark.
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:18:53
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Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:09:45
Jchan sent ya an email about the rubber feet on my m-65. Thx dude
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Sweet, maybe we can get him to start a 4th chain about rubber feet!
Post by: Harms on Wed, 26 July 2017, 02:16:33
Congrats to everyone in this group buy.
I had a question about the Extras. The R2 GB M65's will be cheaper than the extras correct?
I'm only asking because I would rather skip the extras then and wait for R2 whenever it may be.
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 26 July 2017, 02:22:23
Hello
Congrats to everyone in this group buy.
I had a question about the Extras. The R2 GB M65's will be cheaper than the extras correct?
I'm only asking because I would rather skip the extras then and wait for R2 whenever it may be.
The pricing might be different from R1 due to possible material change (jchan suggested to use Alu 6063 instead), but in either case I'm pretty sure that GB will remain cheaper than retail.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 10:05:46
The pricing might be different from R1 due to possible material change (jchan suggested to use Alu 6063 instead), but in either case I'm pretty sure that GB will remain cheaper than retail.
What sort of Alu does R1 use? More just curious!
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Wed, 26 July 2017, 10:20:19
The pricing might be different from R1 due to possible material change (jchan suggested to use Alu 6063 instead), but in either case I'm pretty sure that GB will remain cheaper than retail.
What sort of Alu does R1 use? More just curious!
6061
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:53:32
I know, I know:
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 13:00:26
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 26 July 2017, 13:32:28
Post by: consolelog on Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:02:17
Afaik he had/has a fever. He said he's going to work today though.
Id have a fever too if I saw all those beautiful keebs.
RAMA FEVER
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:10:03
Afaik he had/has a fever. He said he's going to work today though.
Id have a fever too if I saw all those beautiful keebs.
RAMA FEVER
Let me guess, the only cure for that fever is more brass?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 18:05:31
sorry i've been missing these past 3 days. After seattle, I got sick. Looks like a few others that I hung out with also got the sniffles.
In any case, feeling 100%, and all the shipping starts tomorrow.
I'll be emailing tracking to people manually. Cheers
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 July 2017, 01:22:50
Hi everyone,
sorry i've been missing these past 3 days. After seattle, I got sick. Looks like a few others that I hung out with also got the sniffles.
In any case, feeling 100%, and all the shipping starts tomorrow.
I'll be emailing tracking to people manually. Cheers
hell yeah ;D
looking forward to it :)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 02:15:44
Hi everyone,
To clarify, we'll be planning our r2 after we finish this. With the response from the community, we wanted to make sure that people who wanted the m65a, are able to get one. By mentioning it, I want to try to assure people that they'll have the opportunity to have this beautiful keyboard.
This lead me to start pondering on at least the colors we want to offer for the second round, and that's the only thing we have set for now. There is no timeline, just a general idea of a plan, such as streamlining our logistics to have a faster turnaround.
In any case, alps and such, might be included, but it's uncertain. The greatest thing about customs is that you make it your own, and offering the alps option, would be fantastic to help you achieve your personal board. We don't have any reworked electronics for it currently, so keep this in mind.
Colours? Don’t leave us hanging dude!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/98/f9/e8/98f9e836cf56667498c902c047809857.png)
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 03:25:30
Hope to received and see more upcoming colorHi everyone,
To clarify, we'll be planning our r2 after we finish this. With the response from the community, we wanted to make sure that people who wanted the m65a, are able to get one. By mentioning it, I want to try to assure people that they'll have the opportunity to have this beautiful keyboard.
This lead me to start pondering on at least the colors we want to offer for the second round, and that's the only thing we have set for now. There is no timeline, just a general idea of a plan, such as streamlining our logistics to have a faster turnaround.
In any case, alps and such, might be included, but it's uncertain. The greatest thing about customs is that you make it your own, and offering the alps option, would be fantastic to help you achieve your personal board. We don't have any reworked electronics for it currently, so keep this in mind.
Colours? Don’t leave us hanging dude!Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/98/f9/e8/98f9e836cf56667498c902c047809857.png)
BTW: Can u check my email. Thanks
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Post by: wongie on Thu, 27 July 2017, 05:35:32
Hi everyone,
Colours? Don’t leave us hanging dude!Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/98/f9/e8/98f9e836cf56667498c902c047809857.png)
So it's going to be purple!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 14:45:45
Please refer to the 2nd post (linked here - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2332902#msg2332902), to see all progress.
It will be updated as often as I can.
Cheers.
Post by: breusch91 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 15:21:53
Shipping is commencing, and I'm trying to pump out 40 units today.
Please refer to the 2nd post (linked here - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2332902#msg2332902), to see all progress.
It will be updated as often as I can.
Cheers.
so very excited for my first build!
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 27 July 2017, 16:00:55
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 18:00:09
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Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 18:12:13
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Today is a tad slow. I'm starting to see the process at which I need to work at and optimize my day 2 and onward.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 27 July 2017, 19:39:08
Thanks Jchan! Really excited to get this board built. It'll be my first heavy board so this it going to be a treat. :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 19:52:40
They get picked up by FEDEX on Monday, as I scheduled a pick up with them.
Cheers.
Again go here to see if you made Day 1 - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2332902#msg2332902
edit:
I will note that this was a little slower than usual. I know a better way now how to get through everything, and will be proceeding with that
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 27 July 2017, 20:14:06
So excited to see this moving along! Thanks for all the updates jchan, you're quickly becoming the model I compare other group buy runners to.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 27 July 2017, 21:49:47
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 28 July 2017, 00:38:09
have a good night everyone :-* :thumb:
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 28 July 2017, 03:25:32
Post by: rioc on Fri, 28 July 2017, 03:28:44
Finger crossed on M65A-111
Fingers crossed on M65A-094 :p
PS: are conus shipments prioritized over intl. or is it just random?
Post by: delivery on Fri, 28 July 2017, 03:31:49
M65A-99
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 28 July 2017, 03:47:18
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:03:44
I'm trying to have this 100% out by next Friday :D.
My sister was like "So Joseph, when are you going to get rid of those boxes in the back?"
Response: "I'm working on it. Trust".
Sister: "So like 1 month...2 months...?"
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:07:03
tbh, this is really cute.
I'm trying to have this 100% out by next Friday :D.
My sister was like "So Joseph, when are you going to get rid of those boxes in the back?"
Response: "I'm working on it. Trust".
Sister: "So like 1 month...2 months...?"
No faith!! But it is okay, we all have faith in you jchan <3
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:23:24
Holding a small little "contest" for a DIY guide for the M65A :)
Make a DIY guide on how to construct the M65A. It can be done in ANY format such as video, or photo imgur guide. Make sure it's accessible on the interweb - on Reddit, on geekhack, or just make the imgur link and submit (details below)
How you'll be chosen:
- The quality of the guide (photo quality does NOT count, as I'm aware that people do not have high quality cameras). Quality of the guide means, description, how in-depth you go describing the process, or tools, and parts you use.
- Personalization: How you added your own personal spice the guide. Whether that's jokes, or memes, whatever it is - Make it yours & own it :).
Reward!
- There are TWO reward options you can choose from, and there is only 1 winner :).
- Brass Plate + PCB + Additional Base (if i have that color) w/ Shipping to your location (global, open, with DHL/Fedex)
- 50% M65-A R2 Base Kit whenever that happens
Submission
- Submissions are open up to 2 weeks after I finish the last shipment.
- Please submit here - https://goo.gl/forms/XMOBUpowupgVqE8C2
Post by: msilvv on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:42:52
P.S. M65-A-163. Jchan pls.
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:45:50
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Fri, 28 July 2017, 04:56:54
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Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 28 July 2017, 07:31:57
Post by: robbles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 10:59:48
Post by: Nonster on Fri, 28 July 2017, 12:13:40
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 28 July 2017, 12:24:20
Post by: lunr on Fri, 28 July 2017, 20:11:01
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 28 July 2017, 20:19:35
In terms of retail price when the extras kits goes up, how much more will it be compared to the GB price? I know it's probably early or been asked somewhere in the thread probably but I just want to gauge the cost
Jchan has said before in this thread that will be revealed at the 72 hour mark. He hasn't had the chance to figure it out yet.
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:00:08
Post by: yqliang on Sat, 29 July 2017, 20:44:29
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 29 July 2017, 20:56:26
I missed the GB and I am amazed at how beautiful the design is. Also jchan's great execution is top notch. will definitely get in R2 if not able to get the extras. I would love to see a military green / olive option for R2!
Matte military green would be sweet
Post by: rioc on Mon, 31 July 2017, 01:44:43
I missed the GB and I am amazed at how beautiful the design is. Also jchan's great execution is top notch. will definitely get in R2 if not able to get the extras. I would love to see a military green / olive option for R2!
Matte military green would be sweet
yes! (skipped the military green on the Moon TKL for light gray since I wanted some moon-surface look, but I'd be so down for military green on R2 of this)
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 31 July 2017, 01:53:37
TY for keeping us up to date JChan! Godspeed this week :)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 31 July 2017, 03:06:30
Stoked on the contest! But danggg I wanna see some more of the double digits ship =D
TY for keeping us up to date JChan! Godspeed this week :)
62
please
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 31 July 2017, 07:50:40
Stoked on the contest! But danggg I wanna see some more of the double digits ship =D
TY for keeping us up to date JChan! Godspeed this week :)
62
please
22 here :'(
Post by: rioc on Mon, 31 July 2017, 08:02:06
Stoked on the contest! But danggg I wanna see some more of the double digits ship =D
TY for keeping us up to date JChan! Godspeed this week :)62-> 94
please
Post by: Rumblehotep on Mon, 31 July 2017, 12:14:06
#186
Post by: mnmlisme on Mon, 31 July 2017, 14:30:44
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 31 July 2017, 14:32:00
I haven't missed the R2 of this beast, have I?
Lol no, we're waiting for R1 to ship
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 31 July 2017, 17:23:43
Day 2 is today, and I've gotten through a good chunk today.
I expect 80-90% of this GB to be done by Friday. The last 10% is the almost always the worst part of ANY GB, so I'm sorry if you fall into that. Cheers.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 31 July 2017, 18:46:56
Post by: mnmlisme on Mon, 31 July 2017, 19:07:05
oh cool hahaha well hang in there for those who are in R1, can't wait to see in-hands photos. meanwhile, I'm hoping I could get my hands on one during R2. give me some time to collect the funds as well while you guys finishing R1.I haven't missed the R2 of this beast, have I?
Lol no, we're waiting for R1 to ship
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 31 July 2017, 20:43:53
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 31 July 2017, 20:47:06
Out of curiosity, why do some order numbers have letters?
Additions or modifications to existing order I reckon
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 31 July 2017, 20:52:55
Out of curiosity, why do some order numbers have letters?
Additions or modifications to existing order I reckon
If it has a letter at the end, that means someone cancelled that invoice, and was refunded, then it was resold. So some have C, some have B.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 31 July 2017, 21:36:15
Out of curiosity, why do some order numbers have letters?
Additions or modifications to existing order I reckon
If it has a letter at the end, that means someone cancelled that invoice, and was refunded, then it was resold. So some have C, some have B.
my mira invoice was 114b because i bought the slot off someone else
for example
Post by: mnmlisme on Mon, 31 July 2017, 22:18:08
my mira invoice was 114b because i bought the slot off someone elseis it too late now to buy someone else's slot? #regreteffect
for example
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 31 July 2017, 23:02:40
my mira invoice was 114b because i bought the slot off someone elseis it too late now to buy someone else's slot? #regreteffect
for example
for mira or m65?
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 00:15:58
There are boards that have this small anodization issues, but our amazing manufacturer is going to fix them. The anodization issue is only apparent when you shine light on it a certain direction. But it bugs the hell out of me.
(http://i.imgur.com/KLYaYVO.jpg)
I should be done with most of the gb this Friday, and then I will be forwarding the units to them, and they will be fixed in a week or two.
Extra units are being used to make sure everyone gets their unit within the GB. After that, the units that come back will be used for extras, and we'll have our r2 colors as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/cPaPeRj.jpg)
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:16:27
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:20:56
and we'll have our r2 colors as well.
R2 samples? ? ? ? ?? ????? ??
Great updates man, keep em coming! Looks like major progress today. Can't wait to see my number out the door!
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:21:14
Thanks for the updates! How will we know whether we're affected by the anodization issues? Also, do you have an estimated percentage of the boards affected? (at least from what you've seen so far)
No one will know because i'm using extras to replace them :).
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:26:45
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:26:55
Post by: Arallu on Tue, 01 August 2017, 01:28:34
Post by: mnmlisme on Tue, 01 August 2017, 02:24:03
m65my mira invoice was 114b because i bought the slot off someone elseis it too late now to buy someone else's slot? #regreteffect
for example
for mira or m65?
Post by: wongie on Tue, 01 August 2017, 02:49:15
m65my mira invoice was 114b because i bought the slot off someone elseis it too late now to buy someone else's slot? #regreteffect
for example
for mira or m65?
Too late. Your best bet is to wait for extras.
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 01 August 2017, 05:07:09
Also curses those who ever the **** covers the other's number to be in the final 10%
Post by: Sarillexis on Tue, 01 August 2017, 07:41:50
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 01 August 2017, 08:06:23
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Post by: petrock on Tue, 01 August 2017, 08:23:40
Post by: kmba on Tue, 01 August 2017, 08:29:12
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 09:17:45
mouse pads? those shipped a while ago. extras? maybe when his website is complete.
I think he means the M65 mouse pads, not the Cherry ones.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 01 August 2017, 10:48:13
mouse pads? those shipped a while ago. extras? maybe when his website is complete.
I think he means the M65 mouse pads, not the Cherry ones.
ahh yes, that makes sense :confused: forgot about those
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 01 August 2017, 10:54:30
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
iirc he said he would send an update via his email update about extras when the time comes with 7 day warning. I'd just post up and wait mayne
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 11:08:25
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 01 August 2017, 12:03:36
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
You should make an FAQ at the top of every page:
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 01 August 2017, 13:41:56
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 13:44:57
this mailing list? https://www.keyclack.com/signup
Direct Link - https://eepurl.com/coAJ5r
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 15:25:47
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Post by: delivery on Tue, 01 August 2017, 15:33:51
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 01 August 2017, 15:42:57
You know when you feel like everything is going your way?
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Well, when it rains, it pours. My mortgage scheduled to close in 2 days just fell apart because the company is getting sued. :-\ I just updated my address for my m65-a, too. At least with this GMK delay, I might still be ok
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 01 August 2017, 16:15:13
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Tue, 01 August 2017, 16:22:29
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 01 August 2017, 16:35:40
Oops, that doesn't sound great .. Actually I was about to ask, how many 2u stabs will come with the board?
Four 2u stabs for Backspace, Enter, Right Shift, Left Shift. Of course, you may not use them all depending on your layout.
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 01 August 2017, 16:45:55
You know when you feel like everything is going your way?
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
:'( :'( :'(
nooooooooooooo
sorry to hear about that, hopefully they get back with you soon.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:22:23
You know when you feel like everything is going your way?
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Jchan feel free to send mine without stabilisers if that means I will get the board without having to wait for GMK shipment to come in (I don't even remembered if I ordered any, but I certainly don't need any more now, seeing as I recently bought 20 kits of GMK screw mounted stabs) :))
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:32:26
Thanks. But .. that's actually 2x 2u short for the split space / split backspace layout. I think it uses 6 if I count correctly. I have a 2u stab wire left but not 1 screw in stab :blank:Oops, that doesn't sound great .. Actually I was about to ask, how many 2u stabs will come with the board?
Four 2u stabs for Backspace, Enter, Right Shift, Left Shift. Of course, you may not use them all depending on your layout.
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:34:15
Thanks. But .. that's actually 2x 2u short for the split space / split backspace layout. I think it uses 6 if I count correctly. I have a 2u stab wire left but not 1 screw in stab :blank:Oops, that doesn't sound great .. Actually I was about to ask, how many 2u stabs will come with the board?
Four 2u stabs for Backspace, Enter, Right Shift, Left Shift. Of course, you may not use them all depending on your layout.
Ah, forgot this supports split space.
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:35:55
Where did you order them? Better check if it's really 20 sets but should be enough for the m65 in any case :pYou know when you feel like everything is going your way?
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Jchan feel free to send mine without stabilisers if that means I will get the board without having to wait for GMK shipment to come in (I don't even remembered if I ordered any, but I certainly don't need any more now, seeing as I recently bought 20 kits of GMK screw mounted stabs) :))
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:45:34
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 01 August 2017, 17:57:41
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
You should make an FAQ at the top of every page:
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Don't be a ****. "Will you sell some extras now and the rest later" had yet to be asked, because the topic of some boards needing refinishing had just been brought up.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:00:06
Where did you order them? Better check if it's really 20 sets but should be enough for the m65 in any case :pYou know when you feel like everything is going your way?
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Jchan feel free to send mine without stabilisers if that means I will get the board without having to wait for GMK shipment to come in (I don't even remembered if I ordered any, but I certainly don't need any more now, seeing as I recently bought 20 kits of GMK screw mounted stabs) :))
From a GB MechBoards hosted last month
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:01:24
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
You should make an FAQ at the top of every page:
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Don't be a ****. "Will you sell some extras now and the rest later" had yet to be asked, because the topic of some boards needing refinishing had just been brought up.
Sorry you took it as a personal attack but considering how many times Jchan has to reply the same thing to questions, my suggestion stands.
Post by: DreLLin on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:01:28
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:26:49
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Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:41:29
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:45:19
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
i hate to bug you but check slack right quick
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:47:35
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
Oh, I definitely understand it's more exhausting for you, which is why I suggested a simple store credit option for the ones who don't want to wait for the stabs to come in from GMK (who aren't the fastest at communication).
That way the ones who get who don't want to wait any longer get their boards sooner, and you don't have to sit around after QC just waiting for the stabs to come in.
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:49:59
Stuff happens dude. Like I mentioned before I'd be happy to pass on the stabs (I dont need a credit) just to get this thing ready for the Austin meetup. ThxHow about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this
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Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 19:44:35
I had to spend a chunk of the day gathering extras and organizing / sorting them, and packing up some units to be fixed so we can get all of this done asap.
Cheers. Have a good night ya'll.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 01 August 2017, 20:09:42
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 01 August 2017, 21:09:17
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
Oh, I definitely understand it's more exhausting for you, which is why I suggested a simple store credit option for the ones who don't want to wait for the stabs to come in from GMK (who aren't the fastest at communication).
That way the ones who get who don't want to wait any longer get their boards sooner, and you don't have to sit around after QC just waiting for the stabs to come in.
More bookkeeping and logistics, splitting up units into more SKUs is another chunk of work.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 21:12:16
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
Oh, I definitely understand it's more exhausting for you, which is why I suggested a simple store credit option for the ones who don't want to wait for the stabs to come in from GMK (who aren't the fastest at communication).
That way the ones who get who don't want to wait any longer get their boards sooner, and you don't have to sit around after QC just waiting for the stabs to come in.
More bookkeeping and logistics, splitting up units into more SKUs is another chunk of work.
Offering a hot fix is usually more work than it's cut out to be :P. We'll wait for gmk to reply to my urgent email.
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 01 August 2017, 22:36:14
How about an option for a $5 refund/store credit (or whatever amount you deem is fair) instead of waiting on the 2u stabilizers? To be honest, it's getting kinda exhausting keeping up with the numerous delays.
QC is the bigger part that is slowing everything down. I'm inspecting all of them 1 at a time to assure the quality of the board, anodization and more. And as far as delays go: customs, I got sick, and GMK didn't send me all the 2u stabs (which is also my fault since I didn't do an inventory check), but nonetheless, I can still QC all the boards.
I think i might be done with M65-A after this :P ; it's time to rest this weary soul.
Oh, I definitely understand it's more exhausting for you, which is why I suggested a simple store credit option for the ones who don't want to wait for the stabs to come in from GMK (who aren't the fastest at communication).
That way the ones who get who don't want to wait any longer get their boards sooner, and you don't have to sit around after QC just waiting for the stabs to come in.
More bookkeeping and logistics, splitting up units into more SKUs is another chunk of work.
Offering a hot fix is usually more work than it's cut out to be :P. We'll wait for gmk to reply to my urgent email.
What about a poll like you did with pcb upgrade? My order is willing to forego stabs as well if you decide to make this an option.
Post by: evrydayzawrkday on Tue, 01 August 2017, 23:07:56
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 01 August 2017, 23:14:35
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
You should make an FAQ at the top of every page:
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Don't be a ****. "Will you sell some extras now and the rest later" had yet to be asked, because the topic of some boards needing refinishing had just been brought up.
Sorry you took it as a personal attack but considering how many times Jchan has to reply the same thing to questions, my suggestion stands.
If it wasn't directed at me, why did you feel the need to quote me?
Post by: kmba on Tue, 01 August 2017, 23:18:48
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 01 August 2017, 23:25:18
I would wait for stabs. the board will be waiting for Muted anyway. And my painfully slow process to meticulously build pandastotles.
Some of us aren't waiting for muted though :)
Post by: barelyanything on Wed, 02 August 2017, 00:19:05
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 02 August 2017, 00:26:00
If it wasn't directed at me, why did you feel the need to quote me?Wow, I think you need to calm down for a second.
Jchan's response was the one directly above his reply. So even though you were quoted, it was hardly directed to you. Should he have deleted yours so that you don't get quoted? Probably, but i think not doing so doesn't warrant name calling.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 02 August 2017, 07:39:14
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
Extras will be sold only after I can do another inventory check after I finish shipping everyone who participated.
If you're on the keyclack mailing list or follow on Instagram, or browse rmk daily, you'll be fine with getting a notification or a heads up.
You should make an FAQ at the top of every page:
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Don't be a ****. "Will you sell some extras now and the rest later" had yet to be asked, because the topic of some boards needing refinishing had just been brought up.
Sorry you took it as a personal attack but considering how many times Jchan has to reply the same thing to questions, my suggestion stands.
If it wasn't directed at me, why did you feel the need to quote me?
Can you just let it go? It didn't seem like an attack, just quoting you for reference. And very much needed, I thought, and not just for you.
Post by: mnmlisme on Wed, 02 August 2017, 09:18:23
You know when you feel like everything is going your way?hang in there. just another bumpy road. hope GMK can sort things out for you.
Well, nothing like knocking ya backwards.
It seems that GMK didn't send me my full batch of stabilizers from a few months ago. I bought 700 2u stabilizers, but it seems I only got 200. I have about 20 left, and have emailed them about getting the last batch, or buying some new ones immediately. I have enough 6.25u and 7u, but without 2u, I'm stuck.
Waiting for GMK to reply. Hopefully they can expedite something.
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 02 August 2017, 11:46:23
So Jchan, if you have any extras that don't need sent back for reanodizing are you going to sell them "now", or hold them for the reanodizing boards to come back?
Just wondering if I should stop watching for extras for a while.
He doesn't even have the storefront up on the site yet. He's holding extras to canvas, camping, budapest, etc, that need to hit the storefront as well. At this point, I'd take any updates with a grain of salt—just get on the mailing list and hold out for the announcement.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:26:05
Stabs ship from GMK next Wednesday, but there is also air freight and customs with it. In any case, QC is still doing done. Cheers.
Form:
https://goo.gl/forms/d0Su7K8sMAM33vlF2
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:40:32
Don't care for stabs? Or do you not care for waiting?
Stabs ship from GMK next Wednesday, but there is also air freight and customs with it. In any case, QC is still doing done. Cheers.
Form:
https://goo.gl/forms/d0Su7K8sMAM33vlF2
Form filled! Let's try and get these babies to me before the UK meetup next Saturday ;)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:51:12
Post by: evrydayzawrkday on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:55:03
Don't care for stabs? Or do you not care for waiting?
Stabs ship from GMK next Wednesday, but there is also air freight and customs with it. In any case, QC is still doing done. Cheers.
Form:
https://goo.gl/forms/d0Su7K8sMAM33vlF2
Mine is already shipped.. just got the FedEx notification ;D shall I still fill out the form? M65-A-223
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:58:06
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 15:45:33
Q: Where is my M65?
A: I'm shipping them as fast as I can. Please wait patiently.
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know. Here - https://eepurl.com/coAJ5r ; After R1 ships.
Q: Any announcements for R2?
A: After R1 is over.
Q: Where are the mousepads?
A: They ship with your M65A
Q: Can I get an extra this or that with my order?
A. Wait for extras to be posted
Q: Can I get mine shipped for X meetup?
A: They're shipping and I am not prioritizing any one's for $50, $100, or $200. That's just how I roll, sorry.
Q: Can I get stabs later?
A: Unfortunately, I'll have to say no. I don't like shipping partial orders. That's a lot of upkeep for me.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 15:55:33
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 02 August 2017, 15:59:13
Post by: evrydayzawrkday on Wed, 02 August 2017, 15:59:26
Here are all the answers to every question that people are asking.
Q: Can I get stabs later?
A: Unfortunately, I'll have to say no. I don't like shipping partial orders. That's a lot of upkeep for me.
Sweet, thank you for the quick response! I have no idea how you do this.. I would honestly lose my mind trying to get all of those out the door.
Post by: wongie on Wed, 02 August 2017, 16:58:45
Should waiters still fill out the form or do people who don't confirm have their orders sent out in full all the same when the stabs arrive next week?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:03:16
After waiting months what's another week? I can afford to be patient for a little while longer.
Should waiters still fill out the form or do people who don't confirm have their orders sent out in full all the same when the stabs arrive next week?
Shore.
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:04:56
After waiting months what's another week? I can afford to be patient for a little while longer.
Should waiters still fill out the form or do people who don't confirm have their orders sent out in full all the same when the stabs arrive next week?
Just to be clear, jchan said the stabs *ship* from GMK next week, and still have to pass through customs. I would think 2 weeks is probably more realistic
Post by: wongie on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:08:33
After waiting months what's another week? I can afford to be patient for a little while longer.
Should waiters still fill out the form or do people who don't confirm have their orders sent out in full all the same when the stabs arrive next week?
Just to be clear, jchan said the stabs *ship* from GMK next week, and still have to pass through customs. I would think 2 weeks is probably more realistic
Thanks for the clarification. What's another week eh.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:19:18
Don't care for stabs? Or do you not care for waiting?
Stabs ship from GMK next Wednesday, but there is also air freight and customs with it. In any case, QC is still doing done. Cheers.
Form:
https://goo.gl/forms/d0Su7K8sMAM33vlF2
Guess I'm an idiot and didn't check correctly before filling out the form. If I want to change my decision to "ship without stabs" how would I go on about it?
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:19:31
After waiting months what's another week? I can afford to be patient for a little while longer.
Should waiters still fill out the form or do people who don't confirm have their orders sent out in full all the same when the stabs arrive next week?
Just to be clear, jchan said the stabs *ship* from GMK next week, and still have to pass through customs. I would think 2 weeks is probably more realistic
Thanks for the clarification. What's another week eh.
Another week would be 7 days. ;)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 18:37:58
Don't care for stabs? Or do you not care for waiting?
Stabs ship from GMK next Wednesday, but there is also air freight and customs with it. In any case, QC is still doing done. Cheers.
Form:
https://goo.gl/forms/d0Su7K8sMAM33vlF2
Guess I'm an idiot and didn't check correctly before filling out the form. If I want to change my decision to "ship without stabs" how would I go on about it?
I just submitted a new answer, I guess you can see which one is newer.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 18:55:46
Day 5 will be dedicated towards pure QC, and putting units away and documentation to get fixed up a little. Just need to make sure they are actual issues, and clean them up with some 120grit sand paper (jk).
Day 2,3,4 emails will be sent today. Sorry, haven't had a moment to catch a breath.
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 02 August 2017, 19:21:07
Day 4 is done.
Day 5 will be dedicated towards pure QC, and putting units away and documentation to get fixed up a little. Just need to make sure they are actual issues, and clean them up with some 120grit sand paper (jk).
Day 2,3,4 emails will be sent today. Sorry, haven't had a moment to catch a breath.
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 02 August 2017, 19:29:15
Day 4 is done.
Day 5 will be dedicated towards pure QC, and putting units away and documentation to get fixed up a little. Just need to make sure they are actual issues, and clean them up with some 120grit sand paper (jk).
Day 2,3,4 emails will be sent today. Sorry, haven't had a moment to catch a breath.
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Right in my nostalgia feels
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 19:55:27
Have a good day. Making some pretty good progress :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 20:36:28
Updated Day 4 on post 2
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 02 August 2017, 20:57:21
looks like I missed a few that I packed.
Updated Day 4 on post 2
woop! Thanks Jchan! Keep it up =D
edit woow dang 1 away from my number! Maybe tomorrow is my day =D
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:08:37
looks like I missed a few that I packed.
Updated Day 4 on post 2
woop! Thanks Jchan! Keep it up =D
edit woow dang 1 away from my number! Maybe tomorrow is my day =D
That's what I've been saying for 4 days now. Just gotta keep believing!
Post by: delivery on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:22:58
looks like I missed a few that I packed.
Updated Day 4 on post 2
woop! Thanks Jchan! Keep it up =D
edit woow dang 1 away from my number! Maybe tomorrow is my day =D
That's what I've been saying for 4 days now. Just gotta keep believing!
Post by: FioraCorp on Thu, 03 August 2017, 02:43:21
Tomorrow is not your day it's dedicated to QC and documentation.looks like I missed a few that I packed.
Updated Day 4 on post 2
woop! Thanks Jchan! Keep it up =D
edit woow dang 1 away from my number! Maybe tomorrow is my day =D
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 03 August 2017, 05:22:39
the UK meetup next Saturday ;)
Is it this meetup? https://www.meetup.com/London-Mechanical-Keyboards-Meetup/
I have never been to one but I would love to go.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 03 August 2017, 06:00:56
the UK meetup next Saturday ;)
Is it this meetup? https://www.meetup.com/London-Mechanical-Keyboards-Meetup/
I have never been to one but I would love to go.
That's the one! Tickets are still available (we've hired a proper venue this time around) , a bunch of us are going for a meal and few pints afterwards. We've also arranged negotiated discounted rates at a nearby hotel if you want to stay the night. Feel free to join us on the Discord channel, more details available there.
Edit: wait hang on, that's not us. We're here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboardsUK/comments/6mxecu/mkuk_meetup_2_tickets_are_now_live/
Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 03 August 2017, 09:54:31
Post by: davisthegreat on Thu, 03 August 2017, 18:20:40
Post by: yonghf on Fri, 04 August 2017, 01:40:23
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 04 August 2017, 03:48:26
Which shipping method is used for international orders? 0496 here - fingers crossed!
All international should be DHL or USPS Priority International. 90% of people are DHL. If you check your shipping notes in the invoice, it states the shipping method.
News
- GMK is Shipping out Muted with Stabs TODAY.
- Quality Control should finish by Monday/Tuesday for all the boards.
- I have about 40 boards ready to ship from today that just need stabilizers.
- Shipping boards with small anodization issues back next week. They will return in 2 weeks + shipping time. R2 colors will then be announced once they are all back.
Post by: Xidiaz on Fri, 04 August 2017, 10:28:33
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Post by: delivery on Fri, 04 August 2017, 10:30:57
What I got and setup yesterday.NICE!!!!
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Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 04 August 2017, 11:00:46
What I got and setup yesterday.
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Damn you American clackers and your stupidly short shipping times 🙁
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 04 August 2017, 14:55:50
What I got and setup yesterday.
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which color is that?
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 04 August 2017, 15:14:02
What I got and setup yesterday.
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First post on GH and it's for a M65? Cheers dude :thumb:.
LMK your thoughts on it!
Post by: Xidiaz on Fri, 04 August 2017, 19:16:29
What I got and setup yesterday.
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which color is that?
Its the Space Gray. The lighting makes it look a bit lighter than it actually is. Here is a pic against the silver base.
What I got and setup yesterday.
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First post on GH and it's for a M65? Cheers dude :thumb:.
LMK your thoughts on it!
So far love it. The build quality is amazing. Picking it up, the weight feels great. I went with Zealio switches which have a clear casing which then causes the RGB at the bottom of the pcb to shine through which turned into a happy accident because I didn't even plan for that. Might have to pickup a new color on R2 to have one at home and another at the office ;D.
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Fri, 04 August 2017, 20:44:21
Thank you Jchan and RAMA for putting together a great piece. You guys should both seriously be proud of what you have accomplished together. Can't wait for more collaborations in the future.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sat, 05 August 2017, 17:30:55
Please say there'll be extras post shipment :X
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 05 August 2017, 19:03:10
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 05 August 2017, 19:33:12
It's the weekend, but I just wanted to thank everyone for being a good sport about the situation :). The stabs should be here soon, and QA/QC is almost done with.
I'm super hyped to see that people are receiving their units. We're about 100 units shipped I believe, and again, I'm trying to finalize QA/QC by Tuesday. It's a lot to go through, but I'm almost done. This will help make the flow of everything go super fast.
Cheers & have a good weekend.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 06 August 2017, 07:06:59
Post by: Kavik on Sun, 06 August 2017, 15:54:24
Looking at the bright side. :p
Post by: obviouslygene on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:00:42
WOOHOO ITS IN!
Post by: hormbre on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:45:26
I have got M65-A for half a month, recently I find that the rainbow LED remain unchanged several minutes after the computer starts.
The current firmware is :ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex , which is downloaded from : https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases
Could anyone tell me what is wrong and what I can do to fix this problem, thank you very much !
Post by: mattijs on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:52:47
Huge thanks to jchan94 for putting in all this work to make this happen and the awesome communication throughout. And for the cute message on the box ;D
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Post by: Atredl on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:56:38
(http://i.imgur.com/EuJDKfM.jpg)
Build is happening tomorrow!
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 07 August 2017, 00:42:42
I'm getting like bleeding lines...
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 00:48:00
I'm sorry, but does anyone have the desk mat?
I'm getting like bleeding lines...
Hm, that's weird! I've been checking them before, and didn't see this. Mightve slipped.
Email support@keyclack.com for some help with replacing it.
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 07 August 2017, 01:04:50
I'm sorry, but does anyone have the desk mat?
I'm getting like bleeding lines...
Hm, that's weird! I've been checking them before, and didn't see this. Mightve slipped.
Email support@keyclack.com for some help with replacing it.
Alright emailed you guys.
No issues, it was sent out in a hurry!
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 07 August 2017, 07:24:00
Post by: breckstar on Mon, 07 August 2017, 08:45:52
Out of curiousity, is there a way to set the underglow to one single color or is it always rbg rainbowy?Yes. It is programmable up to what Bootmapperclient allows for the standard PCB and up to your/community coding on the QMK PCB.
Post by: squeakypizza on Mon, 07 August 2017, 08:48:37
Out of curiousity, is there a way to set the underglow to one single color or is it always rbg rainbowy?Yes. It is programmable up to what Bootmapperclient allows for the standard PCB and up to your/community coding on the QMK PCB.
Speaking of this...Is there a good tutorial about how to program the firmware for Macs?
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 16:05:17
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Post by: FioraCorp on Mon, 07 August 2017, 16:19:52
Out of curiousity, is there a way to set the underglow to one single color or is it always rbg rainbowy?Yes. It is programmable up to what Bootmapperclient allows for the standard PCB and up to your/community coding on the QMK PCB.
Speaking of this...Is there a good tutorial about how to program the firmware for Macs?
If you're talking about using QMK, you should simply check out the QMK docs available here: https://docs.qmk.fm/ (https://docs.qmk.fm/)
Any mac specific instructions for setting up a build environment can be found under "Build Environment Setup" on the left hand panel. QMK has amazing documentation imo.
Post by: squeakypizza on Mon, 07 August 2017, 16:30:19
Out of curiousity, is there a way to set the underglow to one single color or is it always rbg rainbowy?Yes. It is programmable up to what Bootmapperclient allows for the standard PCB and up to your/community coding on the QMK PCB.
Speaking of this...Is there a good tutorial about how to program the firmware for Macs?
If you're talking about using QMK, you should simply check out the QMK docs available here: https://docs.qmk.fm/ (https://docs.qmk.fm/)
Any mac specific instructions for setting up a build environment can be found under "Build Environment Setup" on the left hand panel. QMK has amazing documentation imo.
Right on. Thank you so much!
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Post by: juanclack on Mon, 07 August 2017, 19:52:45
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 19:56:43
Well.... I was super excited that my keyboard shipped with GMK stabs. I received it today but sadly without a PCB. :'(
que. Are you sure? :O : O :O . It's in a red bag.
Make sure to email support@keyclack.com to get this out to ya.
Post by: juanclack on Mon, 07 August 2017, 19:59:47
Well.... I was super excited that my keyboard shipped with GMK stabs. I received it today but sadly without a PCB. :'(
que. Are you sure? :O : O :O . It's in a red bag.
Make sure to email support@keyclack.com to get this out to ya.
E-mail sent. Yeah lol I checked the box and everything. I had to double check to make sure that I even ordered one.
! ;D
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:48:21
Well.... I was super excited that my keyboard shipped with GMK stabs. I received it today but sadly without a PCB. :'(
que. Are you sure? :O : O :O . It's in a red bag.
Make sure to email support@keyclack.com to get this out to ya.
E-mail sent. Yeah lol I checked the box and everything. I had to double check to make sure that I even ordered one.
! ;D
Wait a minute... your name isn't Juan.
News Update
Just about done with QC.
Shipment of stabs comes in next week, as it's clearing customs now, and is actually in the air.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:04:16
Well.... I was super excited that my keyboard shipped with GMK stabs. I received it today but sadly without a PCB. :'(
que. Are you sure? :O : O :O . It's in a red bag.
Make sure to email support@keyclack.com to get this out to ya.
E-mail sent. Yeah lol I checked the box and everything. I had to double check to make sure that I even ordered one.
! ;D
Wait a minute... your name isn't Juan.
News Update
Just about done with QC.
Shipment of stabs comes in next week, as it's clearing customs now, and is actually in the air.
No more units shipped today? :'(
Post by: fancymans on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:46:02
Post by: FioraCorp on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:54:34
It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
Post by: fancymans on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:06:50
I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:08:02
I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
Post by: fancymans on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:22:11
Ok, pretty sure I didn't do that. So... does that mean it's not programmable?I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:23:49
Ok, pretty sure I didn't do that. So... does that mean it's not programmable?I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
It's programmable, but it'll actually be simpler for someone new to it since it's a PS2AVRGB PCB. You can google and find many many guides and multiples interfaces for programming those PCBs.
Post by: fancymans on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:29:25
Ok, pretty sure I didn't do that. So... does that mean it's not programmable?I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
It's programmable, but it'll actually be simpler for someone new to it since it's a PS2AVRGB PCB. You can google and find many many guides and multiples interfaces for programming those PCBs.
Cool. Thanks for the help man. :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 20:21:01
Ok, pretty sure I didn't do that. So... does that mean it's not programmable?I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
It's programmable, but it'll actually be simpler for someone new to it since it's a PS2AVRGB PCB. You can google and find many many guides and multiples interfaces for programming those PCBs.
Cool. Thanks for the help man. :thumb:
Updated the first post with programming info.
Also, I'm finishing up QC and then finishing shipping what I have. It's a lot sorting for those opting out of stabs and those in, and such. Literally a stack here with people who want stabs.
Finishing up the customs clearance. It should be here Monday :thumb:
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 08 August 2017, 20:45:56
Ok, pretty sure I didn't do that. So... does that mean it's not programmable?I honestly can't remember and I can't find the email. How do I check?It's probably been said somewhere in this thread, but where can I find the firmware and programming info for the PCB? And jchan, if possible can you update the original post to have links/info for programming the board?The answer to that is dependent on whether you got the QMK upgrade or not.
You would have paid an additional invoice for the QMK upgrade.
It's programmable, but it'll actually be simpler for someone new to it since it's a PS2AVRGB PCB. You can google and find many many guides and multiples interfaces for programming those PCBs.
Cool. Thanks for the help man. :thumb:
Updated the first post with programming info.
Also, I'm finishing up QC and then finishing shipping what I have. It's a lot sorting for those opting out of stabs and those in, and such. Literally a stack here with people who want stabs.
Finishing up the customs clearance. It should be here Monday :thumb:
Thanks for your efforts! We're almost over the last hurdle now!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 08 August 2017, 22:59:17
(http://i.imgur.com/piOJesc.jpg)
More quick pics: http://imgur.com/a/pyBtD
Post by: aneasyusername on Tue, 08 August 2017, 23:11:28
I got some 65% love today!Someone else with GMK 9009 on their M65-A? You guys are killing me. Looks great! I'm torn between GMK Hyperfuse or Hydro for my silver M65 when I finally get my hands on it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/piOJesc.jpg)
More quick pics: http://imgur.com/a/pyBtD
Post by: Dominathan on Tue, 08 August 2017, 23:15:15
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 09 August 2017, 02:24:22
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
Post by: mnmlisme on Wed, 09 August 2017, 03:51:09
I got some 65% love today!oh the overall look and glow is SO good! @_@Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/piOJesc.jpg)
More quick pics: http://imgur.com/a/pyBtD
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 09 August 2017, 09:42:59
I got some 65% love today!Someone else with GMK 9009 on their M65-A? You guys are killing me. Looks great! I'm torn between GMK Hyperfuse or Hydro for my silver M65 when I finally get my hands on it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/piOJesc.jpg)
More quick pics: http://imgur.com/a/pyBtD
Was there someone else with 9009?? :o i didn't see any
Post by: aeneas36 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:02:46
For those of you who ordered an extra bottom, was there an option to order more rubber feet for them? Just realized I only have 2.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:18:40
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:19:48
Man these look great! Any chance for some extra left over from cancelled orders?
Check the first post :)
Post by: dyoungc on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:56:47
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
Post by: Corgi Butts on Wed, 09 August 2017, 11:07:02
Man these look great! Any chance for some extra left over from cancelled orders?
Check the first post :)
Done and done! Thx!
Post by: climbalima on Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:01:22
(https://i.imgur.com/g5mCh51.jpg)
heres the rest of the build https://imgur.com/gallery/089SK (https://imgur.com/gallery/089SK)
Post by: Nonster on Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:07:07
Got my m65 today. My custom pcb needed some dremmeling to fit into the usb port. all in all an awesome boardShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/g5mCh51.jpg)
heres the rest of the build https://imgur.com/gallery/089SK (https://imgur.com/gallery/089SK)
This is really cool, definitely the most unique M65 build I expect to see. Great job! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: tripandfall426 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 19:41:14
I got my m65-a yesterday and put most of it together but waited until today to solder it. This side shot is now my new wallpaper :p
Reddit post with full album here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6spgkc/photosm65a_matte_black_x_gmk_plum_w_full_build/)
Post by: delivery on Wed, 09 August 2017, 19:54:05
(Attachment Link)Nice pictures!
I got my m65-a yesterday and put most of it together but waited until today to solder it. This side shot is now my new wallpaper
Reddit post with full album here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6spgkc/photosm65a_matte_black_x_gmk_plum_w_full_build/)
Post by: CamRank1 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 19:57:14
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Wed, 09 August 2017, 20:25:07
(http://i.imgur.com/0FxKNhz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XnU3WxM.jpg)
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 09 August 2017, 23:18:22
What a build this was. Really nice presentation from RAMA and jchan. Not sure what caps are going on it yet, but I like this view for the time being.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0FxKNhz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XnU3WxM.jpg)
From the looks of it, Zealios are a popular choice for this keyboard (that's what I'm planning on putting on it also).
Post by: evrydayzawrkday on Thu, 10 August 2017, 00:24:23
Here: http://www.kbdlounge.com/2017/03/24/how-to-reprogram-ps2avrgb-boards/
Really simple to program thankfully :]
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Thu, 10 August 2017, 01:08:41
Nice pics everyone! I'm wondering, Mr. Chan, if those of us who opted-out of stabs are getting ours shipped out? I was hoping that by opting-out it would expedite the process, however I haven't seen an update since I started following the shipping progress.
Yea... I assumed the same too. If the stabs arrive before the rest of the boards are shipped I'll most likely have to cancel my stabilizer opt-out.
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 10 August 2017, 01:32:09
What a build this was. Really nice presentation from RAMA and jchan. Not sure what caps are going on it yet, but I like this view for the time being.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0FxKNhz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XnU3WxM.jpg)
HYPED! This is looking pretty sweet my man!
Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 10 August 2017, 03:07:38
I thought the stabs were already shipped with the m65-a?
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 10 August 2017, 03:53:11
what stabs are you guys talking about?
I thought the stabs were already shipped with the m65-a?
jchan was short on 2u stabs so he had to get more from GMK which arrive next Monday. People were able to opt out for receiving stabs so they could receive their boards earlier (e.g. people that already have stabs)
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:28:16
http://imgur.com/a/XpQOS
Post by: mattijs on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:36:33
Put together my own M65-A build guide. Hope you enjoy! ;D
http://imgur.com/a/XpQOS
Great build guide with lots of detail, thanks for posting it :)
Post by: delivery on Thu, 10 August 2017, 12:40:58
Post by: robbles on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:35:49
Post by: kitchenace13 on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:46:07
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 10 August 2017, 14:04:20
Anyone have any tips/recommendations on what I need to do for LEDs? Maybe SIP sockets for now and decide later? Not sure what everyone else is planning!I plan on installing SIPs on mine eventually. Unless you're doing hotlites, SIPs are the way to go.
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 10 August 2017, 14:06:43
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 10 August 2017, 14:13:59
Post by: Arallu on Thu, 10 August 2017, 15:31:24
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 10 August 2017, 16:12:04
Post by: Corgi Butts on Thu, 10 August 2017, 16:12:41
Did I miss extras being posted?
Don't believe so.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 10 August 2017, 16:16:35
Post by: Rumblehotep on Thu, 10 August 2017, 16:36:42
Nice pics everyone! I'm wondering, Mr. Chan, if those of us who opted-out of stabs are getting ours shipped out? I was hoping that by opting-out it would expedite the process, however I haven't seen an update since I started following the shipping progress.
Q: Can I get stabs later?
A: Unfortunately, I'll have to say no. I don't like shipping partial orders. That's a lot of upkeep for me.
Doesn't look like it, I opted out but have some waiting for it already.
Edit: Ah thought you were asking if the stabs were being shipped after, dunno if the m65's are expedited or not.
Post by: kimusan on Fri, 11 August 2017, 04:00:59
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 11 August 2017, 04:11:46
So what are the chances of getting my hands on one of these amazing keebs?
If you read the op, you will know those chances.
Post by: kimusan on Fri, 11 August 2017, 04:13:39
Edit: nevermind. See it now (completely overlooked it at first).
Post by: evrydayzawrkday on Fri, 11 August 2017, 09:56:53
Put together my own M65-A build guide. Hope you enjoy! ;D
http://imgur.com/a/XpQOS
I love the guide.. and it even reminded me to screw in the sides (which took away my tiny wobble problem with the steel base).
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 11 August 2017, 13:32:29
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 11 August 2017, 14:17:23
Hey jchan, could you add a “more” button for all/all but a few of the pics in the first post when you get a chance? No rush. It eats all the datas everytime I check the first page for shipping updates. Don’t see an option tohide them, someone correct me if I am doing it wrong please!
Would be nice to hide them for more efficient F5'ing to check for shipping updates.
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 11 August 2017, 15:12:06
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 11 August 2017, 16:08:56
Glad I could help :)Put together my own M65-A build guide. Hope you enjoy! ;D
http://imgur.com/a/XpQOS
I love the guide.. and it even reminded me to screw in the sides (which took away my tiny wobble problem with the steel base).
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 11 August 2017, 16:53:15
I finally had a chance to open the box and I noticed I am missing the PCB as well.
I look everywhere, took out the foam piece, and it is not there.
Hopefully jchan can resolve this problem for me.
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 11 August 2017, 19:23:27
edit: So I'm now seeing that if I play with hue or value while the color is stuck, it doesn't do anything. But if I mess with saturation, they will sometimes sync up with the rest.
Also note, if the colors are syncing when I toggle the RGB off, the stuck ones don't go off either.
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 12 August 2017, 10:20:05
Post by: Arallu on Sat, 12 August 2017, 10:33:46
Post by: imprevade on Sat, 12 August 2017, 13:56:33
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Post by: yokken on Sat, 12 August 2017, 14:22:39
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 12 August 2017, 15:13:21
Worth the wait.Beautiful!
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Do you think there is enough room/screw thread to add a small washer between the plate/case mount point so that the keycaps sit slightly below level to the case top?
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 12 August 2017, 15:53:59
Worth the wait.Beautiful!
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Do you think there is enough room/screw thread to add a small washer between the plate/case mount point so that the keycaps sit slightly below level to the case top?
That's a good idea but I'm pretty sure that you would have to have a significantly thick washer and then the bottom section would not meet up with the top. I really prefer to have the keycaps below the top of the case (one of the reasons I like the Fjell so much), but this design was chosen purposefully, and still looks nice. I'm guessing people like this look so that they can see the switch housings? Especially when they are clear and have leds
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 12 August 2017, 17:59:36
Worth the wait.Beautiful!
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(Attachment Link)
Do you think there is enough room/screw thread to add a small washer between the plate/case mount point so that the keycaps sit slightly below level to the case top?
That's a good idea but I'm pretty sure that you would have to have a significantly thick washer and then the bottom section would not meet up with the top. I really prefer to have the keycaps below the top of the case (one of the reasons I like the Fjell so much), but this design was chosen purposefully, and still looks nice. I'm guessing people like this look so that they can see the switch housings? Especially when they are clear and have leds
Good point, it's hard to tell how big the gap is from pictures, will take a look once stabs arrive and mine ships out :)
Post by: Fullcream on Sat, 12 August 2017, 21:02:38
Worth the wait.Beautiful!
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(Attachment Link)
Do you think there is enough room/screw thread to add a small washer between the plate/case mount point so that the keycaps sit slightly below level to the case top?
Finally. I'm not the only one. You probably could slightly lower the plate/pcb with washers but then I imagine the usb port will not line up properly with the hole anymore.
It looks as though the bottom of keycaps may indeed sit flush with the top surface of the case but it's that inner chamfer causing that gap. For me personally the idea of a solid thick case looks so good with absolutely no gap from the bottom of keycaps to the top of the case. The complete opposite of 'floating' design would be nice. Oh well. (that was all just my silly opinion)
Still love everything else about this!.
Btw jchan, I love waiting. You can ship mine last!
Post by: Jason_IRL on Sat, 12 August 2017, 21:56:50
My arrow key cluster appears to be dead. I checked to make sure I didn't bridge any other contacts (I've also assembled at least 15-20 other keyboards before, so I'm pretty sure its not sloppy work on my end.)
I hope its not a bad PCB. Ideas of things to try? Every other key is recognized in the bootmapper client. It just the arrow cluster.
Post by: delivery on Sat, 12 August 2017, 22:09:47
anybody else running into any issues with the PCB?Arrows not functioning outside of bootmapper as well or just witin bootmapper?
My arrow key cluster appears to be dead. I checked to make sure I didn't bridge any other contacts (I've also assembled at least 15-20 other keyboards before, so I'm pretty sure its not sloppy work on my end.)
I hope its not a bad PCB. Ideas of things to try? Every other key is recognized in the bootmapper client. It just the arrow cluster.
Post by: Jason_IRL on Sat, 12 August 2017, 22:18:40
anybody else running into any issues with the PCB?Arrows not functioning outside of bootmapper as well or just witin bootmapper?
My arrow key cluster appears to be dead. I checked to make sure I didn't bridge any other contacts (I've also assembled at least 15-20 other keyboards before, so I'm pretty sure its not sloppy work on my end.)
I hope its not a bad PCB. Ideas of things to try? Every other key is recognized in the bootmapper client. It just the arrow cluster.
arrow keys are not working at all. up arrow is working, but left, right, down are not.
pressing those keys in bootmapper is like no keys are pressed. nothing is recognized by the application.
Post by: delivery on Sat, 12 August 2017, 22:36:56
I used to have those problems in bootmapper, only up arrow is working and some other keys wont recognized at all, so i reset it to default, and never tried reprogramming them again.anybody else running into any issues with the PCB?Arrows not functioning outside of bootmapper as well or just witin bootmapper?
My arrow key cluster appears to be dead. I checked to make sure I didn't bridge any other contacts (I've also assembled at least 15-20 other keyboards before, so I'm pretty sure its not sloppy work on my end.)
I hope its not a bad PCB. Ideas of things to try? Every other key is recognized in the bootmapper client. It just the arrow cluster.
arrow keys are not working at all. up arrow is working, but left, right, down are not.
pressing those keys in bootmapper is like no keys are pressed. nothing is recognized by the application.
If you found out how to fix, plz share!
Post by: Jason_IRL on Sat, 12 August 2017, 22:41:51
I used to have those problems in bootmapper, only up arrow is working and some other keys wont recognized at all, so i reset it to default, and never tried reprogramming them again.anybody else running into any issues with the PCB?Arrows not functioning outside of bootmapper as well or just witin bootmapper?
My arrow key cluster appears to be dead. I checked to make sure I didn't bridge any other contacts (I've also assembled at least 15-20 other keyboards before, so I'm pretty sure its not sloppy work on my end.)
I hope its not a bad PCB. Ideas of things to try? Every other key is recognized in the bootmapper client. It just the arrow cluster.
arrow keys are not working at all. up arrow is working, but left, right, down are not.
pressing those keys in bootmapper is like no keys are pressed. nothing is recognized by the application.
I got it working!
In case anyone else runs into this issue in the future...
I noticed the diodes near those keys did not have as much solder on them as all the other keys.
CAREFULLY adding a little bit more solder to the pads, and making sure everything was connected resolved the issue.
Beautiful board. Thanks Rama and Jchan for making this a reality.
Post by: drgonzo on Sun, 13 August 2017, 05:14:23
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 13 August 2017, 05:36:00
Worth the wait.
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Ugh, looking so good. Can't wait for my champagne to come rolling through :-* :-*
Post by: frobrox on Sun, 13 August 2017, 08:26:44
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Post by: yokken on Sun, 13 August 2017, 10:04:06
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Well, the INF file is part of the driver. I would try re-downloading it (possible it became corrupted) or try to let Windows decide which driver it wants to use, without you specifying the files/folders with the drivers. Short of that... I would try removing the device through Device Manager, then plug it into a different USB port. Then try the re-downloaded drivers. Any problems beyond this would require more troubleshooting that is tough to do on a forum, but you might as well give it a shot!
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 13 August 2017, 12:56:26
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Setting up the build environment? As in, you intend to modify and/or build the firmware from source? Does the PCB not come with a default map already flashed?
I have personally been frustrated with Windows as a development environment so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd set up the build environment in Linux if that's what you're trying to do. You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sun, 13 August 2017, 13:12:56
You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
Or use virtualbox.
Post by: drgonzo on Sun, 13 August 2017, 13:45:30
Post by: Gamecat on Sun, 13 August 2017, 17:31:10
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Setting up the build environment? As in, you intend to modify and/or build the firmware from source? Does the PCB not come with a default map already flashed?
I have personally been frustrated with Windows as a development environment so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd set up the build environment in Linux if that's what you're trying to do. You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
If you have Win 10 this seems to work pretty well (lxrun /install bash or the Ubuntu app if you are on insider build): https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide)
Post by: frobrox on Sun, 13 August 2017, 19:05:49
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Setting up the build environment? As in, you intend to modify and/or build the firmware from source? Does the PCB not come with a default map already flashed?
I have personally been frustrated with Windows as a development environment so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd set up the build environment in Linux if that's what you're trying to do. You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
It had worked the first night I had built, with it already being preflashed. And then the next morning, I went to go use it, and no keystroke registered. All I had done in the interim was weigh it on a kitchen scale.
So right now I'm just trying to get it reflashed and working. I had flashed it with a set up TADA 68 hex, but that only has Esc, 1-9 working correctly, and the QWERTY row is all off one key.
I'll see if using a VM will help. Otherwise, I've got an expensive paperweight on my hands.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 13 August 2017, 20:33:04
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Setting up the build environment? As in, you intend to modify and/or build the firmware from source? Does the PCB not come with a default map already flashed?
I have personally been frustrated with Windows as a development environment so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd set up the build environment in Linux if that's what you're trying to do. You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
It had worked the first night I had built, with it already being preflashed. And then the next morning, I went to go use it, and no keystroke registered. All I had done in the interim was weigh it on a kitchen scale.
So right now I'm just trying to get it reflashed and working. I had flashed it with a set up TADA 68 hex, but that only has Esc, 1-9 working correctly, and the QWERTY row is all off one key.
I'll see if using a VM will help. Otherwise, I've got an expensive paperweight on my hands.
Do you mean you actually flashed it with a Hex generated by the TADA online keymapper (or generated using QMK's TADA68 repository)? Because I don't think the two PCBs are compatible in terms of row and column layout
Post by: BAS1C on Sun, 13 August 2017, 22:38:54
Finishing up the customs clearance. It should be here Monday :thumb:
Hey Jchan, so if one opted out of stabs for quicker shipping, and stabs are there tomorrow but order hasn't shipped yet, will one be receiving stabs?
Post by: obviouslygene on Sun, 13 August 2017, 23:16:21
cant use it at all :(
Post by: frobrox on Mon, 14 August 2017, 08:28:45
I opted for the QMK version, even though I've never used it before, and I'm having some troubles with setting up the build environment.
It keeps failing when adding the driver Microsoft PnP Utility saying: Adding the driver package failed : Invalid INF passed as parameter.
Anything I can or should do about this?
Setting up the build environment? As in, you intend to modify and/or build the firmware from source? Does the PCB not come with a default map already flashed?
I have personally been frustrated with Windows as a development environment so take this with a grain of salt, but I'd set up the build environment in Linux if that's what you're trying to do. You could install Ubuntu on a bootable flash drive and work off of that.
It had worked the first night I had built, with it already being preflashed. And then the next morning, I went to go use it, and no keystroke registered. All I had done in the interim was weigh it on a kitchen scale.
So right now I'm just trying to get it reflashed and working. I had flashed it with a set up TADA 68 hex, but that only has Esc, 1-9 working correctly, and the QWERTY row is all off one key.
I'll see if using a VM will help. Otherwise, I've got an expensive paperweight on my hands.
Do you mean you actually flashed it with a Hex generated by the TADA online keymapper (or generated using QMK's TADA68 repository)? Because I don't think the two PCBs are compatible in terms of row and column layout
Oh, I definitely realized that after I flashed it. I guess I've gotta just keep at it, or see if there's anyone out there with the same layout of M65-A, and see if I can get their hex file.
Post by: lordzebu on Mon, 14 August 2017, 08:43:53
Oh, I definitely realized that after I flashed it. I guess I've gotta just keep at it, or see if there's anyone out there with the same layout of M65-A, and see if I can get their hex file.
I followed these instructions to set up the build environment on win 10 (https://docs.qmk.fm/build_environment_setup.html) and had no problems at all. In the jc65 repository (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65) you'll find 2 ready to use keymaps. From there you can compile the hex file for flashing using either one or make your own keymap. This one here helped as well (https://flashquark.com/how-to-flash-a-keyboard-with-qmk-on-windows/).
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 14 August 2017, 10:57:33
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 14 August 2017, 15:07:40
Oh, I definitely realized that after I flashed it. I guess I've gotta just keep at it, or see if there's anyone out there with the same layout of M65-A, and see if I can get their hex file.
I followed these instructions to set up the build environment on win 10 (https://docs.qmk.fm/build_environment_setup.html) and had no problems at all. In the jc65 repository (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65) you'll find 2 ready to use keymaps. From there you can compile the hex file for flashing using either one or make your own keymap. This one here helped as well (https://flashquark.com/how-to-flash-a-keyboard-with-qmk-on-windows/).
Anyone have a dockerfile with the environment ready to go? That would be the best way, since we could just spin that up.
Post by: squeakypizza on Mon, 14 August 2017, 15:24:16
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 14 August 2017, 15:52:05
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 14 August 2017, 16:06:40
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
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Post by: jjwax on Mon, 14 August 2017, 16:10:04
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
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I'm with you. Don't get me wrong, I opted to wait for stabs (mostly because I just moved). I figured those who opted out would see more shipping over the past week.
Then again, it could be a double nightmare trying to add stabs to boxes that might be ready to go for this who opted out
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 14 August 2017, 16:54:13
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
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+1 What's the dealio with the no-stabs orders? I figured those would have gone out last week. It's been almost two weeks since the last day of shipments according to post #2. Hopefully some movement this week!
I would hazard an assumption that if all the stabs are now here, everyone even if you opted out would get stabs if your board didn't get shipped yet.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 14 August 2017, 16:56:55
Currently, my DHL account is on a hold for some reason, and I'm trying to clear that up today.
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Mon, 14 August 2017, 17:19:34
Nice pics everyone! I'm wondering, Mr. Chan, if those of us who opted-out of stabs are getting ours shipped out? I was hoping that by opting-out it would expedite the process, however I haven't seen an update since I started following the shipping progress.
Same thinking here, but if the stabs are coming next week I might as well just opt-out of the opt-out.
Finishing up the customs clearance. It should be here Monday :thumb:
Hey Jchan, so if one opted out of stabs for quicker shipping, and stabs are there tomorrow but order hasn't shipped yet, will one be receiving stabs?
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
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I'm with you. Don't get me wrong, I opted to wait for stabs (mostly because I just moved). I figured those who opted out would see more shipping over the past week.
Then again, it could be a double nightmare trying to add stabs to boxes that might be ready to go for this who opted out
I filled out the form to say I am okay with not getting stabs, if it meant the board gets here faster. It seems as though you'll be getting the stabs before even shipping my board out, so will the stabs be included?
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
+1 What's the dealio with the no-stabs orders? I figured those would have gone out last week. It's been almost two weeks since the last day of shipments according to post #2. Hopefully some movement this week!
I would hazard an assumption that if all the stabs are now here, everyone even if you opted out would get stabs if your board didn't get shipped yet.
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Good to hear. Could we get more info about the boards that opted out of stabs? Think a lot of us opted out figuring they'd be shipping earlier since we weren't waiting on them.
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Yea, like everyone else here, I was under the assumption that those who opted out of stabs (that we paid for) would have their orders shipped a week or two earlier.
Guess not unless the stabilizers get stuck at customs.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 14 August 2017, 17:29:08
Back to it, cheers.
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 14 August 2017, 17:36:33
No stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after. There are only so many, and I have to manually process, look if they opted out, check the parts, repack them. It takes a while for a single box :p
Currently, my DHL account is on a hold for some reason, and I'm trying to clear that up today.
Cool, TY for the update on that! Looking forward to it :thumb:
Hopefully if stabs come in before those orders ship, we all get stabs!
Post by: breckstar on Mon, 14 August 2017, 18:30:44
Gonna do a livestream of my M65-A tonight around 9:30-10PM EST. Streaming at www.twitch.tv/breckstar
Specifics:
- M65-A Space Grey w/ Nylon Base
- QMK PCB
- 78g Zealios
- Zeal Stabs
- SA Valentine
Stream won't be anything fancy. Just some tunes and one camera. Hang out if you want :) posting it on rmk and discord as well.
Cheers
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:58:39
My M65-A is missing the PCB. Please advise.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:59:37
Hi jchan, did you go through your email and saw the one I sent you?
My M65-A is missing the PCB. Please advise.
I did. Shipping it tmr:).
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 14 August 2017, 23:26:09
Hi jchan, did you go through your email and saw the one I sent you?
My M65-A is missing the PCB. Please advise.
I did. Shipping it tmr:).
Thanks, you're the best. :thumb:
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 14 August 2017, 23:52:07
Post by: frobrox on Tue, 15 August 2017, 07:39:59
Oh, I definitely realized that after I flashed it. I guess I've gotta just keep at it, or see if there's anyone out there with the same layout of M65-A, and see if I can get their hex file.
I followed these instructions to set up the build environment on win 10 (https://docs.qmk.fm/build_environment_setup.html) and had no problems at all. In the jc65 repository (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65) you'll find 2 ready to use keymaps. From there you can compile the hex file for flashing using either one or make your own keymap. This one here helped as well (https://flashquark.com/how-to-flash-a-keyboard-with-qmk-on-windows/).
Oh that last link you sent was a life saver. I've finally got it working now. Now I just gotta figure out how to change the LEDs, and I will be golden.
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:01:18
Post by: kmba on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:44:40
Post by: HMK on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:46:34
looks like the plate is made of mirror
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Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:00:19
Gold in Black
looks like the plate is made of mirror
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**** I really should've picked the black case.
Oh well the Grey one will still go really well with Dolch ;D
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:02:01
Gold in Black
looks like the plate is made of mirror
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**** I really should've picked the black case.
Oh well the Grey one will still go really well with Dolch ;D
I'm still happy I chose champagne, but the black really did come out nicely.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:08:19
I had literally the same reaction, just that I'll use SoWaReGold in Black
looks like the plate is made of mirror
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**** I really should've picked the black case.
Oh well the Grey one will still go really well with Dolch ;D
Post by: aeneas36 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 11:15:05
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:15:49
Oh that last link you sent was a life saver. I've finally got it working now. Now I just gotta figure out how to change the LEDs, and I will be golden.
Just go into your keymap.c and create another layer with the RGB control keycodes on it. (You can see a very simple way of doing this in qmk_firmware/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/jetpacktuxedo/keymap.c)
RGB_TOG toggle on/off
RGB_MOD cycle modes
RGB_HUI hue increase
RGB_HUD hue decrease
RGB_SAI saturation increase
RGB_SAD saturation decrease
RGB_VAI value increase
RGB_VAD value decrease
The code is already included in QMK, and the pins are already defined in qmk_firmware/keyboards/jc65/config.h
So once you have the controls in your keymap, you're ready to go.
The modes (RGB_MOD) are:
MODE 1, on, solid color
MODE 2-5, breathing
MODE 6-8, rainbow mood
MODE 9-14, rainbow swirl
MODE 15-20, snake
MODE 21-23, knight
Post by: lordzebu on Tue, 15 August 2017, 13:38:26
Oh well the Grey one will still go really well with Dolch ;D
Oh yes it does.
(https://i.imgur.com/eKaIn3L.jpg)
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 15 August 2017, 14:51:02
HNNNNGGGHHHHHOh well the Grey one will still go really well with Dolch ;D
Oh yes it does.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eKaIn3L.jpg)
Post by: Aesomatica on Tue, 15 August 2017, 16:24:43
A. People who don't care about stabs can get their M-65A sooner than others.
B. People who don't care about stabs will get their M-65A later than others.
C. Not related to stabs at all.
1. Related to anodization of the keyboards.
2. Related to jchan's DHL account.
Follow-on bonus question: Are we going to have these in hand by:
Next week?
Within the month?
They have to go back to the factory (to-be-determined)?
Thank you.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 15 August 2017, 16:36:41
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Post by: robbles on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:37:42
Post by: Corgi Butts on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:54:45
First email announcement about Keyclack temp store?
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The announcement thread on /r/mm didn't indicate anything about M65's being offered.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6tq7tg/vendor_keyclack_popup_shop_this_friday_818_2pm_pdt/
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:56:22
August 18th! Do I snag an extra or wait for R2?! Anyone have an idea what retail price will be like vs group buy price?
The extras aren't gonna be in the store on the 18th
Post by: robbles on Tue, 15 August 2017, 18:15:14
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Tue, 15 August 2017, 18:20:27
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 15 August 2017, 21:13:59
Is the delay situation:
A. People who don't care about stabs can get their M-65A sooner than others.
B. People who don't care about stabs will get their M-65A later than others.
C. Not related to stabs at all.
1. Related to anodization of the keyboards.
2. Related to jchan's DHL account.
Follow-on bonus question: Are we going to have these in hand by:
Next week?
Within the month?
They have to go back to the factory (to-be-determined)?
Thank you.
Good questions. I’d hope the DHL account issue is fixed by now. I am hoping that by opting out of stabs, my order actually ships (faster) before the stabs get there. Otherwise, why did I opt out?.. 🤔 anyways he said some would ship today/tomorrow. Holding breath to end of tomorrow!
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 15 August 2017, 22:21:30
I know I just hope I can snag a Budapest for my rose gold :DFirst email announcement about Keyclack temp store?
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The announcement thread on /r/mm didn't indicate anything about M65's being offered.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6tq7tg/vendor_keyclack_popup_shop_this_friday_818_2pm_pdt/
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 23:22:30
Is the delay situation:
A. People who don't care about stabs can get their M-65A sooner than others.
B. People who don't care about stabs will get their M-65A later than others.
C. Not related to stabs at all.
1. Related to anodization of the keyboards.
2. Related to jchan's DHL account.
Follow-on bonus question: Are we going to have these in hand by:
Next week?
Within the month?
They have to go back to the factory (to-be-determined)?
Thank you.
Hi,
A: Set aside.
B: Set aside. Shipping this week.
C: 1. Yes, there are some surface finish issues that I'm not happy about, so we're returning those.
C: 2. DHL account is on hold. Literally can't ship international ones I tried the other day.
Bonus Answer:
Unsure.
Yes, they have to go back to be refinished. This isn't the quality finish you would want.
Extra Fun Fact:
Don't run GB's for more than 200 units :).
--------
Extra stuff.
Very sorry for the delays. There's a lot going on, not only with this, the site, but also, in my life. Being at the hospital this week, and trying to pump this out, my time is really going 50/50 atm.
But in any case, this is priority to me, as I only have two pending GB's I can fulfill at the moment.
In any case, I've decided to not hold a R2 because of the amount of time this GB has taken, which is a lot more than I had hoped. In any case, I feel like there's this urgency and rush that I can't do much about because of the surface treatment, stabs, QC, DHL account thing, and having this weight on my shoulders has resulted in me thinking that a R2 shouldn't be held.
I want to remind everyone that I'm one person, and I don't just twiddle my thumbs all day, and am not trying to hold these boards here with me. I want them out of my hands, and into yours, cheers and have a good day.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 23:24:56
I hope everyone knows that I'm committed to fulfilling this, but my time is split at the moment, and I've been spending 8 hours everyday to focus on M65A since it's landed.
I really want it out my hands, and into yours, and I'm truly sorry for this delay.
Post by: Nonster on Tue, 15 August 2017, 23:29:54
And if someone would like to know why I'm in the hospital, it is not because it's for me, but TLDR: Brain Surgery.Hope everything's going okay jchan, sad to hear that you're dealing with that :(
I hope everyone knows that I'm committed to fulfilling this, but my time is split at the moment, and I've been spending 8 hours everyday to focus on M65A since it's landed.
I know I don't speak for everyone but take your time, I know you're working hard and we'll get our m65s when the time is right.
Thanks for everything you do, I appreciate you. Keep your head up and keep doing the bang up job that you have always done. We'll be patiently waiting :)
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 23:36:25
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 16 August 2017, 01:24:32
And if someone would like to know why I'm in the hospital, it is not because it's for me, but TLDR: Brain Surgery.
I hope everyone knows that I'm committed to fulfilling this, but my time is split at the moment, and I've been spending 8 hours everyday to focus on M65A since it's landed.
I really want it out my hands, and into yours, and I'm truly sorry for this delay.
I can wait for as long as you need me to in order to fulfill the more important things outside of this hobby.
Wish you and everybody involved nothing but the absolute best,
<3
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 16 August 2017, 01:25:12
And if someone would like to know why I'm in the hospital, it is not because it's for me, but TLDR: Brain Surgery.
I hope everyone knows that I'm committed to fulfilling this, but my time is split at the moment, and I've been spending 8 hours everyday to focus on M65A since it's landed.
I really want it out my hands, and into yours, and I'm truly sorry for this delay.
Take care of yourself and family first mate - we know you are doing your best to close out this GB and appreciate the attention to detail, but hope all is well and best wishes that everything will be okay.
Post by: delivery on Wed, 16 August 2017, 02:51:00
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 16 August 2017, 04:32:37
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 16 August 2017, 06:19:09
Just looking for a little bit more clarification as for the quality control issues. Is it all of the remaining M65's that are being sent back for quality control issues? Also, is it possible to inform the people that will be having their M65 sent back?
Thank you for all your hard work!
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 16 August 2017, 06:45:35
Good morning jchan,
Just looking for a little bit more clarification as for the quality control issues. Is it all of the remaining M65's that are being sent back for quality control issues? Also, is it possible to inform the people that will be having their M65 sent back?
Thank you for all your hard work!
He told me that he has more extras than boards needing to be sent back, so this only delays the sale of extra units on his store, but not GB orders.
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 16 August 2017, 06:47:05
Good morning jchan,
Just looking for a little bit more clarification as for the quality control issues. Is it all of the remaining M65's that are being sent back for quality control issues? Also, is it possible to inform the people that will be having their M65 sent back?
Thank you for all your hard work!
He told me that he has more extras than boards needing to be sent back, so this only delays the sale of extra units on his store, but not GB orders.
Right on. Much obliged.
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 16 August 2017, 07:23:14
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 16 August 2017, 09:15:26
Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 16 August 2017, 09:25:56
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
That's the thing. There's nowhere to go from here. Unless it's the layout or color you don't like, there's really no improvement to be made.
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 16 August 2017, 09:35:47
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Post by: rioc on Wed, 16 August 2017, 09:54:26
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 16 August 2017, 10:39:46
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Dolphins?
Post by: Nonster on Wed, 16 August 2017, 10:40:49
Faster than lightning.Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Dolphins?
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 16 August 2017, 10:41:07
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Dolphins?
he's calling you a flipper
Post by: rioc on Wed, 16 August 2017, 10:47:18
Knowing there's no r2 makes me wonder how much I could fetch for mine but that would mean dealing with a subpar keyboard.
Do I smell dolphins already? :))
Dolphins?
he's calling you a flipper
and not the table kind (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 16 August 2017, 11:17:58
I saw the m65-a renders and was like I don't know what's the deal here but I have to have this keyboard.
Since then I've tinkered with different keyboards, caps, switches, builds, mods and artisans but this project was always the holy grail.
If it takes a little longer to get I don't mind we've already waited a while already, will just make finally getting it all the more potent.
Thank you for making this possible!
Post by: robbles on Wed, 16 August 2017, 11:34:47
Post by: Aesomatica on Wed, 16 August 2017, 15:33:09
Post by: Corgi Butts on Wed, 16 August 2017, 15:39:48
Post by: BAS1C on Wed, 16 August 2017, 16:46:52
Real life happens. People need to do a better job understanding that when it comes to these community projects and group buys that are run by a small # of fellow hobbyists.
This is true, but you also mustn't forget, Keyclack is a legitimate business, and not a side job/project ontop of another job. It is unfortunate that this GB keeps running into delays, and I am sorry to hear you are going through difficult personal matters JChan. But legitimate businesses do need to remain accountable to their products - I am not saying he is not, just that yes, transparency is good, but also promised dates that keep being missed are not. Hope things are ok at home JChan, and I also hope that some of these boards will ship today as indicated a few posts above.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Wed, 16 August 2017, 16:49:17
Real life happens. People need to do a better job understanding that when it comes to these community projects and group buys that are run by a small # of fellow hobbyists.
This is true, but you also mustn't forget, Keyclack is a legitimate business, and not a side job/project ontop of another job. It is unfortunate that this GB keeps running into delays, and I am sorry to hear you are going through difficult personal matters JChan. But legitimate businesses do need to remain accountable to their products - I am not saying he is not, just that yes, transparency is good, but also promised dates that keep being missed are not. Hope things are ok at home JChan, and I also hope that some of these boards will ship today as indicated a few posts above.
Good point, that was simply lack of knowledge on my part as a newb.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 19:51:10
Real life happens. People need to do a better job understanding that when it comes to these community projects and group buys that are run by a small # of fellow hobbyists.
This is true, but you also mustn't forget, Keyclack is a legitimate business, and not a side job/project ontop of another job. It is unfortunate that this GB keeps running into delays, and I am sorry to hear you are going through difficult personal matters JChan. But legitimate businesses do need to remain accountable to their products - I am not saying he is not, just that yes, transparency is good, but also promised dates that keep being missed are not. Hope things are ok at home JChan, and I also hope that some of these boards will ship today as indicated a few posts above.
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
I feel like a lot of people are acting as if constantly asking for updates and knowing the current state somehow ensure the group buy goes faster and prevents people from being scammed or something. But all the nagging does is stress the runner out. Do you think he WANTS delays? That he's trying to make people squirm?
For example, asking him to ship stab orders without stabs and then ship stabs later sounds reasonable enough until you really consider what that means. That means he has to double his logistics. 2x the number of boxes to pack. 2x the labels to create. 2x the orders to track. All because people can't deal with a delay. How does that make sense?
I could totally understand if you were genuinely concerned that you might not receive what you ordered, but I don't feel like anyone feels that way. There is a reason Group Buys have all sorts of disclaimers. Delays happen, and there is nothing jchan can do about that. And it's not as if jchan is making stacks on any GB, especially not when you consider the time commitment.
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 16 August 2017, 19:54:06
Extra Fun Fact:
Don't run GB's for more than 200 units :).
I've been suspecting this for a while. The individual-run group buy model just does not scale above much over 50-100 units. People are demanding and view the buy differently, there's too much money involved, and the logistics around so many units cause issues every step of the way.
I greatly, *greatly* appreciate the time jchan put into this buy. But I don't for a second envy his situation.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 19:57:34
Today's been a good day. Just finished up at the hospital, and now at the office for the rest of the day responding the emails and I think we'll have about 15 or so boxes packed by the time I finish. I want to make sure they are awesome because it seems a small issue went out to someone in NY.
In any case, I'll keep to it, and try to get this all resolved.
Regarding the whole DHL hold, we might switch over to FedEx international, as I want to consolidate all the shipping to one shipper. FedEx has been fantastic, and has picked up my packages at my office, and scanned them all in front of me. Shipping prices will not change, as we are matching them to my DHL quotas, and hopefully in the future, better quotas.
Again, thanks for your patience, love, and understanding. Thank you, keyboard community
Cheers, jchan.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Wed, 16 August 2017, 20:11:49
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
Laser would look amazing on that. Sigh. Maybe a purple extra will be available?
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Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 21:43:39
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 16 August 2017, 23:00:34
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
QFT. Business in this case means that he has a business license, and is trying to build clientele and stock. Not that he has very much bandwidth. The fact that he's giving 8 hours a day on this while having a loved on going through brain surgery... I can't even.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 23:28:33
I really hate FedEx for International. More fees and usually more problems as well than DHL over here...
That's all well and good. But no matter the receiving end jchan still needs to be able to actually ship them and it sounds like they are giving him trouble.
Realistically all shipping companies suck, since it really just depends what locations your stuff passes through. Fedex may be great in 1 city, DHL great in another. There is no perfect option for everyone.
But if FedEx is matching the rates and makes it easier for jchan to ship units, that seems like the better option to me.
It also means he is using a single shipping company which would be easier to tie into his PoS system, especially since from what I remember FedEx has the best API/interface to do such. Being able to just import customer data from PoS to shipping and auto generate labels and shipping manifests could save him a tremendous amount of time and energy.
So while DHL very well may be better for you, FedEx is better for jchan & all his customers overall.
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Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 16 August 2017, 23:42:56
[...]
Just sharing my personal negative experiences with FedEx here. Not sure what your point is apart from explaining what was mostly already obvious but thanks anyway. To be honest I'd be more curious about the reason behind the DHL hold as I have no clue why a company would turn down a business opportunity like that.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 17 August 2017, 01:02:16
[...]
Just sharing my personal negative experiences with FedEx here. Not sure what you're point is apart from explaining what was mostly already obvious but thanks anyway. To be honest I'd be more curious about the reason behind the DHL hold as I have no clue why a company would turn down a business opportunity like that.
Haven't dealt with FedEx yet, but DHL was perfect in my books as they handle customs declaration/fees collection etc all by themselves in Europe via their processing center in Frankfurt, its super quick and painless. Will have to see how FedEx deals with it
Post by: rioc on Thu, 17 August 2017, 01:18:17
jchan, you just do what works best for you. We support you :)
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 17 August 2017, 02:51:42
[...]
Just sharing my personal negative experiences with FedEx here. Not sure what you're point is apart from explaining what was mostly already obvious but thanks anyway. To be honest I'd be more curious about the reason behind the DHL hold as I have no clue why a company would turn down a business opportunity like that.
Haven't dealt with FedEx yet, but DHL was perfect in my books as they handle customs declaration/fees collection etc all by themselves in Europe via their processing center in Frankfurt, its super quick and painless. Will have to see how FedEx deals with it
FedEx is way worse here in Germany. DHL Express is insanely fast with customs and you only have to pay 15€ for the import service.
FedEx is totally different. The customs process almost always takes 3-4 days longer since they handle the packages over to GDSK for customs and you have to pay at least 30€ for their import service.
The only other service I can recommend is UPS, same import fees as DHL and also insanely fast.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 17 August 2017, 03:03:29
[...]
Just sharing my personal negative experiences with FedEx here. Not sure what you're point is apart from explaining what was mostly already obvious but thanks anyway. To be honest I'd be more curious about the reason behind the DHL hold as I have no clue why a company would turn down a business opportunity like that.
Haven't dealt with FedEx yet, but DHL was perfect in my books as they handle customs declaration/fees collection etc all by themselves in Europe via their processing center in Frankfurt, its super quick and painless. Will have to see how FedEx deals with it
FedEx is way worse here in Germany. DHL Express is insanely fast with customs and you only have to pay 15€ for the import service.
FedEx is totally different. The customs process almost always takes 3-4 days longer since they handle the packages over to GDSK for customs and you have to pay at least 30€ for their import service.
The only other service I can recommend is UPS, same import fees as DHL and also insanely fast.
I've never paid processing fees for my imports via DHL or USPS, only VAT. So that'd be new, rip
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 17 August 2017, 03:42:33
[...]
Just sharing my personal negative experiences with FedEx here. Not sure what you're point is apart from explaining what was mostly already obvious but thanks anyway. To be honest I'd be more curious about the reason behind the DHL hold as I have no clue why a company would turn down a business opportunity like that.
Haven't dealt with FedEx yet, but DHL was perfect in my books as they handle customs declaration/fees collection etc all by themselves in Europe via their processing center in Frankfurt, its super quick and painless. Will have to see how FedEx deals with it
FedEx is way worse here in Germany. DHL Express is insanely fast with customs and you only have to pay 15€ for the import service.
FedEx is totally different. The customs process almost always takes 3-4 days longer since they handle the packages over to GDSK for customs and you have to pay at least 30€ for their import service.
The only other service I can recommend is UPS, same import fees as DHL and also insanely fast.
I've never paid processing fees for my imports via DHL or USPS, only VAT. So that'd be new, rip
This is an image of an DHL Express invoice I paid for a shipping from Originative with DHL Express
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If its delivered with DHL Express you won't have the option to pick it up at customs and have to pay the 15€ fees. If it's from standard DHL or USPS and declared correctly with all required forms like packages from massdrop, you can pay the VAT cash when the package gets delivered. If customs have questions you have to pick it up there and also only need to pay VAT.
Only Express shippings (DHL Express, FedEx, UPS, etc.) where the carriers handle everything require you to pay fees.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 06:24:04
Just make sure all customs forms are included (the standard declaration sheet is not enough for commercial shipments), iirc they also require you to put a copy of the invoice and/or a different form on the outside of the package (in one of these glue on plastic bag thingies) so they will do the customs stuff when it arrives and maybe even deliver it to the recipient's door instead of "local" customs office.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 17 August 2017, 09:30:33
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Thu, 17 August 2017, 09:59:17
Quote
No stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after.
So did anything ship yesterday?
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:14:11
QuoteNo stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after.
So did anything ship yesterday?
Doesn't look like it. Hope all is well with your personal life JChan! Sounds like it is a bit better today, am glad for that. Hopefully the Pop up shop you have going on isn't taking away too much time from getting these orders out the door!
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
I feel like a lot of people are acting as if constantly asking for updates and knowing the current state somehow ensure the group buy goes faster and prevents people from being scammed or something. But all the nagging does is stress the runner out. Do you think he WANTS delays? That he's trying to make people squirm?
For example, asking him to ship stab orders without stabs and then ship stabs later sounds reasonable enough until you really consider what that means. That means he has to double his logistics. 2x the number of boxes to pack. 2x the labels to create. 2x the orders to track. All because people can't deal with a delay. How does that make sense?
I could totally understand if you were genuinely concerned that you might not receive what you ordered, but I don't feel like anyone feels that way. There is a reason Group Buys have all sorts of disclaimers. Delays happen, and there is nothing jchan can do about that. And it's not as if jchan is making stacks on any GB, especially not when you consider the time commitment.
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
You kind of went off on a tangent here but I will try to clarify. For one, I don't think anyone asked him to ship stabs separately later. By opting out of stabs it was understood you would not be getting them, as a trade off to get your board out right away rather than wait for GMK shipment to come in. But last I heard the stabs were in US on Monday, and nothing has shipped in two weeks now. JChan is also very transparent and I definitely appreciate that, i think you got me wrong here, am not asking for more updates - he is bang on with those. Now that everything is in hand, any delays should not be out of his control, as you stated. Hopefully we are nearing the end of missed ship dates and we can all have our M65s before the end of the month.
Post by: aznreaper on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:48:49
When you buy into a group buy you are doing so fully understanding that delays can and will happen. If you don't want delays, don't get in a group buy. Being a "legitimate business" doesn't matter whatsoever when it comes to group buy delays. Delays happen on Massdrop all the time, which is a much, much larger company. There's nothing illegal or wrong about it. :thumb:
Yeah going into group buys you expect delays, but just because we've been hammered with delays in what seems like each and every GB doesn't mean we have to accept it happily. The thing more frustrating to me right now is that people over in Asian have had their boards and had the posted build logs over two months ago and we're still here waiting for what seems like one delay after another.
Yes there's potentially nothing illegal about it (but Massdrop seems to require people to reconfirm their drops that have additional delays, and it's usually due to the manufacture that causes the delay), but to say that there's nothing wrong with it doesn't help the community or anyone looking to get into the hobby, and re-enforces the undesirable standard of month long delays as normal. I would expect that the experience with a group buy started by a vendor, with prior experience would should be better than your standard GB's.
Sorry for the rant, maybe my expectations from Jchan is too high, and he's probably have a pretty crappy time right now, but I don't think it's unreasonable for us to also be frustrated at this point.
Post by: CamRank1 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:44:10
QuoteNo stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after.
So did anything ship yesterday?
Doesn't look like it. Hope all is well with your personal life JChan! Sounds like it is a bit better today, am glad for that. Hopefully the Pop up shop you have going on isn't taking away too much time from getting these orders out the door!
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
I feel like a lot of people are acting as if constantly asking for updates and knowing the current state somehow ensure the group buy goes faster and prevents people from being scammed or something. But all the nagging does is stress the runner out. Do you think he WANTS delays? That he's trying to make people squirm?
For example, asking him to ship stab orders without stabs and then ship stabs later sounds reasonable enough until you really consider what that means. That means he has to double his logistics. 2x the number of boxes to pack. 2x the labels to create. 2x the orders to track. All because people can't deal with a delay. How does that make sense?
I could totally understand if you were genuinely concerned that you might not receive what you ordered, but I don't feel like anyone feels that way. There is a reason Group Buys have all sorts of disclaimers. Delays happen, and there is nothing jchan can do about that. And it's not as if jchan is making stacks on any GB, especially not when you consider the time commitment.
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
You kind of went off on a tangent here but I will try to clarify. For one, I don't think anyone asked him to ship stabs separately later. By opting out of stabs it was understood you would not be getting them, as a trade off to get your board out right away rather than wait for GMK shipment to come in. But last I heard the stabs were in US on Monday, and nothing has shipped in two weeks now. JChan is also very transparent and I definitely appreciate that, i think you got me wrong here, am not asking for more updates - he is bang on with those. Now that everything is in hand, any delays should not be out of his control, as you stated. Hopefully we are nearing the end of missed ship dates and we can all have our M65s before the end of the month.
Well Said! I too, am wondering what the point of opt-ing out was..
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Thu, 17 August 2017, 13:00:25
QuoteNo stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after.
So did anything ship yesterday?
Doesn't look like it. Hope all is well with your personal life JChan! Sounds like it is a bit better today, am glad for that. Hopefully the Pop up shop you have going on isn't taking away too much time from getting these orders out the door!
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
I feel like a lot of people are acting as if constantly asking for updates and knowing the current state somehow ensure the group buy goes faster and prevents people from being scammed or something. But all the nagging does is stress the runner out. Do you think he WANTS delays? That he's trying to make people squirm?
For example, asking him to ship stab orders without stabs and then ship stabs later sounds reasonable enough until you really consider what that means. That means he has to double his logistics. 2x the number of boxes to pack. 2x the labels to create. 2x the orders to track. All because people can't deal with a delay. How does that make sense?
I could totally understand if you were genuinely concerned that you might not receive what you ordered, but I don't feel like anyone feels that way. There is a reason Group Buys have all sorts of disclaimers. Delays happen, and there is nothing jchan can do about that. And it's not as if jchan is making stacks on any GB, especially not when you consider the time commitment.
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
You kind of went off on a tangent here but I will try to clarify. For one, I don't think anyone asked him to ship stabs separately later. By opting out of stabs it was understood you would not be getting them, as a trade off to get your board out right away rather than wait for GMK shipment to come in. But last I heard the stabs were in US on Monday, and nothing has shipped in two weeks now. JChan is also very transparent and I definitely appreciate that, i think you got me wrong here, am not asking for more updates - he is bang on with those. Now that everything is in hand, any delays should not be out of his control, as you stated. Hopefully we are nearing the end of missed ship dates and we can all have our M65s before the end of the month.
Well Said! I too, am wondering what the point of opt-ing out was..
Ayy at least now he has a bunch of free stabilizers he can sell on Keyclack. Wish we'll at least get the spacebar stab with our orders since only the 2u ones were "missing."
Post by: Nonster on Thu, 17 August 2017, 13:08:56
Jchan should have never let himself get pressured into having people opt out of stabs, it's caused too much confusion and upset buyers.QuoteNo stabs orders have been set aside, and those should be going out tomorrow or the day after.
So did anything ship yesterday?
Doesn't look like it. Hope all is well with your personal life JChan! Sounds like it is a bit better today, am glad for that. Hopefully the Pop up shop you have going on isn't taking away too much time from getting these orders out the door!
What exactly do you define as "legitimate business"? This was a group but not a retail sale either way. And business or not, Jchan is still just one dude.
I feel like a lot of people are acting as if constantly asking for updates and knowing the current state somehow ensure the group buy goes faster and prevents people from being scammed or something. But all the nagging does is stress the runner out. Do you think he WANTS delays? That he's trying to make people squirm?
For example, asking him to ship stab orders without stabs and then ship stabs later sounds reasonable enough until you really consider what that means. That means he has to double his logistics. 2x the number of boxes to pack. 2x the labels to create. 2x the orders to track. All because people can't deal with a delay. How does that make sense?
I could totally understand if you were genuinely concerned that you might not receive what you ordered, but I don't feel like anyone feels that way. There is a reason Group Buys have all sorts of disclaimers. Delays happen, and there is nothing jchan can do about that. And it's not as if jchan is making stacks on any GB, especially not when you consider the time commitment.
I'm totally bummed there won't be an R2, as I was stoked to get a purple M65 for Laser, but I can't really fault jchan or his thinking and I totally understand where he is coming from. People just need to chill. Your keyboard will ship when it's ready. Nothing you can do will make it ready any sooner.
You kind of went off on a tangent here but I will try to clarify. For one, I don't think anyone asked him to ship stabs separately later. By opting out of stabs it was understood you would not be getting them, as a trade off to get your board out right away rather than wait for GMK shipment to come in. But last I heard the stabs were in US on Monday, and nothing has shipped in two weeks now. JChan is also very transparent and I definitely appreciate that, i think you got me wrong here, am not asking for more updates - he is bang on with those. Now that everything is in hand, any delays should not be out of his control, as you stated. Hopefully we are nearing the end of missed ship dates and we can all have our M65s before the end of the month.
Well Said! I too, am wondering what the point of opt-ing out was..
Ayy at least now he has a bunch of free stabilizers he can sell on Keyclack. Wish we'll at least get the spacebar stab with our orders since only the 2u ones were "missing."
I know it's tough to see a group of people who got their M65-As before we have but it is what it is. We will all get our boards eventually, probably very soon, a delay is not going to kill us.
We all need to take a deep breath and be patient, this hobby is very frustrating if you can't do that. Jchan will make this right whether you opted out of stabs or not, I could only imagine the pressure he's currently under.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 13:21:47
Thanks for your understanding for the current state of my life, and everything that is going on with this buy.
Here are a few details to take note of:
1. If you're unwilling to wait, or are unsatisfied with the wait times. Please contact support@keyclack.com for a refund. You will not lose any paypal fees (due to being outside of 180 days) if you opt for this; I will pay for the fees.
2. If you opt'd out of stabs, I'll be including the 6.25u + 4x 2u on your order. This is simply because, delays are delays, and such is life. I said you'd get them included, so you'll get them, even tho you opt'd out, but the delay is even more reason to get it back in.
3. About 10 units were packed last night. Please check your email tonight, possibly after 2AM PDT, for that.
Hope this information helps, thanks for all your patience, love, and understanding.
Cheers
Post by: Arallu on Thu, 17 August 2017, 13:48:13
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 17 August 2017, 14:23:41
Amazing job on this group buy, jchan94!
(P.S.: forgot to mention, the desk mat seems to have an iridescent sheen to it? It seems to shift color from bluish to lavender-ish pink, just a faint sheen in daylight).
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 08:32:07
I don't know how much of a hassle USPS international shipping would be, but for me that would be the best option.
Just make sure all customs forms are included (the standard declaration sheet is not enough for commercial shipments), iirc they also require you to put a copy of the invoice and/or a different form on the outside of the package (in one of these glue on plastic bag thingies) so they will do the customs stuff when it arrives and maybe even deliver it to the recipient's door instead of "local" customs office.
You know what, this was a dumb comment on (USPS is also bad rn because the customs office is moving in the timeframe it'd arrive), just do whatever works best for you :thumb: .
Post by: Andrewbot5 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:29:52
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 13:50:07
Post 2 is updated with shipments from this morning's haul.
Please check your emails later tonight for the 2AM emails I said I'd post + whoever is supposed to be getting an email later today, cheers.
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 13:57:22
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 18 August 2017, 15:01:31
Hi,
Post 2 is updated with shipments from this morning's haul.
Please check your emails later tonight for the 2AM emails I said I'd post + whoever is supposed to be getting an email later today, cheers.
Thanks for the update on shipments and getting more of them out the door!
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 16:23:33
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Post by: Rumblehotep on Fri, 18 August 2017, 17:11:41
Thank you jchan!
Post by: Corgi Butts on Fri, 18 August 2017, 17:21:30
I can wait forever now that I know I safely got some Grand Budapest :)
Thank you jchan!
Snagged one from the pop up? Nice! It's a great set, I'm just not a fan of SA.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Fri, 18 August 2017, 17:53:54
Aye! The only set better for rose gold than Plum imoI can wait forever now that I know I safely got some Grand Budapest :)
Thank you jchan!
Snagged one from the pop up? Nice! It's a great set, I'm just not a fan of SA.
Post by: HorrorStorm on Sat, 19 August 2017, 09:06:33
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 19 August 2017, 13:09:12
Aye! The only set better for rose gold than Plum imoI can wait forever now that I know I safely got some Grand Budapest :)
Thank you jchan!
Snagged one from the pop up? Nice! It's a great set, I'm just not a fan of SA.
GMK 9009 looks super good with it :p
Post by: obviouslygene on Sat, 19 August 2017, 16:16:00
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 19 August 2017, 16:23:26
finished building my m65a...but i was wondering where is the git repo for the jc65?Look at the FAQ in the opening post please :thumb:
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 20 August 2017, 05:51:35
finished building my m65a...but i was wondering where is the git repo for the jc65?
Its on QMK's official repo
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Sun, 20 August 2017, 11:10:45
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Post by: therealmckellar on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:28:32
At this point will mid sept be a good estimate as to when we'll receive our orders? Never expected such a long delay from the estimated dates from the beginning of the group buy :/You'll get your orders when they ship. Is it really that hard to wait a little longer so he can ship them? He's maintained CONSTANT contact to inform everyone. as someone who missed R1 and was counting on extras or R2, it's pretty frustrating to know that peyote people who can't just read his updates messed that up for everyone. You've waited this long. Is it really this big of a deal to let him get them out on his own terms??
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Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:38:50
As you type that on your m-65.At this point will mid sept be a good estimate as to when we'll receive our orders? Never expected such a long delay from the estimated dates from the beginning of the group buy :/You'll get your orders when they ship. Is it really that hard to wait a little longer so he can ship them? He's maintained CONSTANT contact to inform everyone. as someone who missed R1 and was counting on extras or R2, it's pretty frustrating to know that peyote people who can't just read his updates messed that up for everyone. You've waited this long. Is it really this big of a deal to let him get them out on his own terms??
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Post by: Atredl on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:46:41
He literally said he missed R1 and was waiting for R2... :rolleyes:As you type that on your m-65.At this point will mid sept be a good estimate as to when we'll receive our orders? Never expected such a long delay from the estimated dates from the beginning of the group buy :/You'll get your orders when they ship. Is it really that hard to wait a little longer so he can ship them? He's maintained CONSTANT contact to inform everyone. as someone who missed R1 and was counting on extras or R2, it's pretty frustrating to know that peyote people who can't just read his updates messed that up for everyone. You've waited this long. Is it really this big of a deal to let him get them out on his own terms??
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Post by: therealmckellar on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:12:48
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I typed that on my phone. My computers have ducky keyboards because I missed the GB, as stated above. Just a bunch of crying for no reason.
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:32:27
Post by: Rogerwyf on Mon, 21 August 2017, 14:34:48
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 21 August 2017, 14:38:54
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 21 August 2017, 14:52:29
Anyone from last shipment get tracking yet?No, but my shipment arrived today ;D
Post by: BAS1C on Mon, 21 August 2017, 14:57:04
Anyone from last shipment get tracking yet?No, but my shipment arrived today ;D
Whoah and it shipped on friday?.. and you’re in Germany? :O perhaps mine will be surprising me at home this evening.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 21 August 2017, 15:01:15
Anyone from last shipment get tracking yet?No, but my shipment arrived today ;D
Whoah and it shipped on friday?.. and you’re in Germany? :O perhaps mine will be surprising me at home this evening.
Yeah, totally caught me off-guard, but it's nice being surprised by a DHL employee like that
Post by: aznreaper on Mon, 21 August 2017, 16:24:58
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Mon, 21 August 2017, 21:05:59
Post by: Fullcream on Mon, 21 August 2017, 21:13:38
Post by: Corgi Butts on Mon, 21 August 2017, 21:23:33
I emailed jchan about a refund. If it is possible then that's another black m65 extra for someone when they are available.
Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully jchan will have some info once he's done with the R1 shipping fulfillment.
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Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:12:01
I emailed jchan about a refund. If it is possible then that's another black m65 extra for someone when they are available.
:( I'd be lying if I said I hadn't thought about doing the same. This GB has just been such a roller coaster of emotions.
Initial launch hype!
CNY manufacturing delay
Shipping to JChan hype!
Customs\logistics delay
Arrived at the warehouse hype!
Missing stabs delay
It'd almost be funny if there wasn't such a beautiful keeb hanging in the balance.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:27:55
I'm not in a major rush, I'm just trying to understand.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:45:15
I am a bit confused though. What's the current status? It seems shipping has started again?
I'm not in a major rush, I'm just trying to understand.
I think most of us are kind of assuming that he's resumed shipping but there was no post from JChan yesterday with the invoice numbers for shipped orders so it's a bit of a mystery right now.
Post by: aznreaper on Tue, 22 August 2017, 11:32:39
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Tue, 22 August 2017, 12:30:01
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 14:30:17
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 22 August 2017, 14:56:24
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 22 August 2017, 15:19:24
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 22 August 2017, 15:21:46
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 22 August 2017, 15:24:44
Just curious—my board was listed as shipped last week but I never received a shipping notice and it hasn't arrived. I'm in OR so I would imagine it should have been here by now. Any chance the shipping list is inaccurate and boards listed haven't gone out yet?
Yeah a few people now have received boards sent friday, none of us got notices but they here!
Post by: therealmckellar on Tue, 22 August 2017, 15:56:24
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Post by: gutsack on Tue, 22 August 2017, 16:24:08
Just curious—my board was listed as shipped last week but I never received a shipping notice and it hasn't arrived. I'm in OR so I would imagine it should have been here by now. Any chance the shipping list is inaccurate and boards listed haven't gone out yet?
Yeah a few people now have received boards sent friday, none of us got notices but they here!
Find it unlikely that someone in Germany received a board shipped Friday but I did not receive one shipped Friday only 10 hours north of jchan by car. What I was curios about was if some might not have actually been shipped yet but were listed as such.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:01:28
Instead of you guys asking for refunds, I'd gladly buy someone's black or space grey.It's easier for Jchan to give a refund then sell the extra later. Transferring orders is a tedious task and he's said he doesn't want to do it that way anymore.
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Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:02:45
Just curious—my board was listed as shipped last week but I never received a shipping notice and it hasn't arrived. I'm in OR so I would imagine it should have been here by now. Any chance the shipping list is inaccurate and boards listed haven't gone out yet?
Yeah a few people now have received boards sent friday, none of us got notices but they here!
Find it unlikely that someone in Germany received a board shipped Friday but I did not receive one shipped Friday only 10 hours north of jchan by car. What I was curios about was if some might not have actually been shipped yet but were listed as such.
Well mine was also in the Friday wave of shipment, and it's actually sitting at the local customs office pending the tax bill, so I find someone in Germany already getting theirs pretty believable, whatwith that legendary German efficiency... :p
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:09:01
Just curious—my board was listed as shipped last week but I never received a shipping notice and it hasn't arrived. I'm in OR so I would imagine it should have been here by now. Any chance the shipping list is inaccurate and boards listed haven't gone out yet?
Yeah a few people now have received boards sent friday, none of us got notices but they here!
Find it unlikely that someone in Germany received a board shipped Friday but I did not receive one shipped Friday only 10 hours north of jchan by car. What I was curios about was if some might not have actually been shipped yet but were listed as such.
Well mine was also in the Friday wave of shipment, and it's actually sitting at the local customs office pending the tax bill, so I find someone in Germany already getting theirs pretty believable, whatwith that legendary German efficiency... :p
Sorry, I'm not making myself clear here. One last try: I 100% believe people in Germany received their boards shipped Friday. What I'm saying is I have a feeling my board did NOT actually ship Friday, because otherwise it would be here. I wasn't questioning whether or not the people in Germany who received their boards were telling the truth (of course they are), was more suggesting it's possible not all the boards listed as shipped last week actually shipped.
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:09:22
Edit: Was another package I had forgotten about and didn't expect to be delivered through DHL, back to the waiting game ;D
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 23 August 2017, 08:51:20
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Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 23 August 2017, 11:44:32
Really though, I think he's doing his best to get them out. It's a huge undertaking, no doubt. Clearly he's feeling the pressure. As long as I continue to see boards shipping and communication continue, it's no big deal to wait a bit. (Still waiting on GMK Oblivion anyway!)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 23 August 2017, 12:44:36
(https://i.imgflip.com/1uld67.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1uld67)
Really though, I think he's doing his best to get them out. It's a huge undertaking, no doubt. Clearly he's feeling the pressure. As long as I continue to see boards shipping and communication continue, it's no big deal to wait a bit. (Still waiting on GMK Oblivion anyway!)
He also has a fair amount of personal stuff going on. Not easy to split time between family and and a GB, can imagine a fair amount of stress.
Good news is the boards sound like they're in good shape and all on-hand. That's much better than lots of GBs out there.
Post by: consolelog on Wed, 23 August 2017, 12:46:34
"Hi,
Sorry for the lack of communication this past week.
The sets just landed today. I've hired someone at Keyclack finally, and we'll have this all out this week.
Sorry for all those of you that have been itching to get this set. I'm very happy that it's finally here and ready to get out.
...
PopUp finishes today.
Mc Rebirth is Wednesday.
M65A is Thursday
Muted is Friday."
Post by: cooperred on Wed, 23 August 2017, 13:15:36
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Wed, 23 August 2017, 13:52:33
Jchan is cranking them out. From the GMK Muted thread yesterday:
"Hi,
Sorry for the lack of communication this past week.
The sets just landed today. I've hired someone at Keyclack finally, and we'll have this all out this week.
Sorry for all those of you that have been itching to get this set. I'm very happy that it's finally here and ready to get out.
...
PopUp finishes today.
Mc Rebirth is Wednesday.
M65A is Thursday
Muted is Friday."
Thursday? RIP so shipping has been delayed by another week.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 23 August 2017, 13:54:58
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Post by: gutsack on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:35:41
Post by: jraper13 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:33:34
anyway youd be willing to receive it and then sell it to me?!
I emailed jchan about a refund. If it is possible then that's another black m65 extra for someone when they are available.
Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully jchan will have some info once he's done with the R1 shipping fulfillment.
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Post by: therealmckellar on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:35:45
I'm well aware. I'm stalking this thread trying to make sure I get one. Not every solution involves jchan. Receiver can request a rerouting of delivery or can forward it to me when he does get it. In the meantime, that person would get the money they're looking to have refunded from me and I would get in on the board I missed the gb for.Instead of you guys asking for refunds, I'd gladly buy someone's black or space grey.It's easier for Jchan to give a refund then sell the extra later. Transferring orders is a tedious task and he's said he doesn't want to do it that way anymore.
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Post by: gutsack on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:00:33
That said, now that I've received it, I do have an issue: Whether it was jchan or the factory, someone who did QC on this top part circled issues with either pencil or pen and the circles are impossible to remove. So while they circled small imperfections which are mostly ignorable, the CIRCLES THEMSELVES are not ignorable. I had 4 circles (two on the top face, one on each side). I managed to buff out and clean off two of them, but two are seemingly there forever, which is annoying. Further, the quality of the finish on this top part leaves something to be desired in several spots. Lots of little specs, a chamfer error on the right side, the inner top chamfer is not sharp, etc. Overall it looks fine but when you look closely it's not as sharp as I was hoping.
All that said, I'm thrilled to have the package in hand and look forward to building it tonight. Thanks for all the hard work, jchan, this is a really great kit.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:22:18
Good for you, hope you get one :thumb:I'm well aware. I'm stalking this thread trying to make sure I get one. Not every solution involves jchan. Receiver can request a rerouting of delivery or can forward it to me when he does get it. In the meantime, that person would get the money they're looking to have refunded from me and I would get in on the board I missed the gb for.Instead of you guys asking for refunds, I'd gladly buy someone's black or space grey.It's easier for Jchan to give a refund then sell the extra later. Transferring orders is a tedious task and he's said he doesn't want to do it that way anymore.
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Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:25:25
Update: Turns out my board DID ship last week, but via FedEx. That explains why it took a full week to arrive, FedEx is much slower than DHL in my area. It also explains why I didn't get and DHL text notification. That said, I never received a tracking number for the shipment so if you are in CONUS and were listed as shipping next week, you're probably in the same boat and will just receive a FedEx package at some point.
That said, now that I've received it, I do have an issue: Whether it was jchan or the factory, someone who did QC on this top part circled issues with either pencil or pen and the circles are impossible to remove. So while they circled small imperfections which are mostly ignorable, the CIRCLES THEMSELVES are not ignorable. I had 4 circles (two on the top face, one on each side). I managed to buff out and clean off two of them, but two are seemingly there forever, which is annoying. Further, the quality of the finish on this top part leaves something to be desired in several spots. Lots of little specs, a chamfer error on the right side, the inner top chamfer is not sharp, etc. Overall it looks fine but when you look closely it's not as sharp as I was hoping.
All that said, I'm thrilled to have the package in hand and look forward to building it tonight. Thanks for all the hard work, jchan, this is a really great kit.
Nice! I think this is correct, international must have went DHL and domestic via Fedex. I received mine two days ago in Canada, as did 2 others I know of in my area. Mine is now built. Love it. Packaging was unreal! Such an experience, well worth the wait. I just hope the wait is not too long for those still without boards. Just a little longer, it'll be worth it.
Now, who wants pics? It's SG.
Post by: robbles on Thu, 24 August 2017, 16:03:49
Now, who wants pics? It's SG.
As someone who lurks here just for the pics, yes pls pics :thumb:
Post by: Rumblehotep on Thu, 24 August 2017, 16:17:54
Now, who wants pics? It's SG.
Post it! Need to get more hyped!
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:02:03
(http://i.imgur.com/fK8GlZC.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/F6WzNIJ.jpg?1)
Post by: Corgi Butts on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:02:28
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Post by: Rumblehotep on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:24:05
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Post by: yonghf on Thu, 24 August 2017, 21:53:43
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 25 August 2017, 03:44:58
Now if only I can find some free time this weekend to build
(http://i.imgur.com/0Xl8V5p.jpg)
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:02:16
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 25 August 2017, 05:58:50
Waiting for SA Carbon from massdrop (shipping next year i know), probably buy some tai hao keycaps in the mean time.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 25 August 2017, 06:55:34
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 25 August 2017, 08:44:12
*fingers crossed*
Post by: frobrox on Fri, 25 August 2017, 10:50:33
Granted, this is all a matter of preference. It might just be more height than I'm used to.
Post by: kmba on Fri, 25 August 2017, 11:33:47
Post by: Rumblehotep on Fri, 25 August 2017, 11:48:46
I think the height of SA compared to the large flat bezel on this board nakes everything look a little silly. Cherry or a flat profile like DSA/XDA are more attractive, with the former being better to type on than SA anyway. Win win.
but but SA thundering on brass plate
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:16:03
I think [...] SA [...] makes everything look a little silly.
FTFY
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:47:43
I think [...] SA [...] makes everything look a little silly.
FTFY
QFT
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:55:07
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:18:10
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point though
/shrug - jchan said in the muted thread on tuesday:
Quote
PopUp finishes today.
Mc Rebirth is Wednesday.
M65A is Thursday
Muted is Friday."
I'm OK with delays, and understand sh*t happens in life that you gotta deal with, but I'm also selfish and am SUPER jealous of the m65's I'm seeing in other people's hands!
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:23:56
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point though
/shrug - jchan said in the muted thread on tuesday:QuotePopUp finishes today.
Mc Rebirth is Wednesday.
M65A is Thursday
Muted is Friday."
I'm OK with delays, and understand sh*t happens in life that you gotta deal with, but I'm also selfish and am SUPER jealous of the m65's I'm seeing in other people's hands!
Yea, I've seen that quote. Which is why I waited until Friday to ask like everyone else.
I'm in the MC Rebirth GB and haven't heard anything about shipping - tracking, shipping notification, or even a simple update in the GB thread - so I'd take that plan/schedule with a grain of salt.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:38:25
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point though
I'm waiting on this and the E8-V1... oh, and the switches I wanted from Novelkeys are out of stock...oh, and I've waited on a PCB from a vendor for over a month (supposed to come in stock 2 days ago)... and nothing anywhere. I'm dying here.
on the bright side, I got bored and swapped out the switches in a TKL and replaced some chattery matias switches on my V60 :)
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:46:31
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point though
I'm waiting on this and the E8-V1... oh, and the switches I wanted from Novelkeys are out of stock...oh, and I've waited on a PCB from a vendor for over a month (supposed to come in stock 2 days ago)... and nothing anywhere. I'm dying here.
Honestly, I'm not worried about getting my M65 late because Jchan has been great with the updates, the E8-V1 GB has been disappointing due to the lack of them.
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:05:36
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:16:50
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word? At this point some of us just want clarity and honesty - maybe a realistic ship date instead of the weekly "[Insert reason/excuse for delay] Will ship next week."
Post by: Corgi Butts on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:23:23
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word?
How many successful group buys have you run where everything showed up 100% according to schedule?
It's not an easy thing. Why do you think 9 out of 10 kick starters never deliver according to their original timeline? Things happen outside of your control, you have to learn to deal with it. Unless Jchan says at some point that all boards have shipped and you don't get yours (at which point raise a ruckus) then just chill out.
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Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:33:22
Still here. Finishing up MC Rebirth, and then working on about the M65A this weekend. I have to clear the rear room where the pallets (from the M65A) are, to make room for the Muted pallet, and then move the pallets inside so I can start packing them. Who knew when you have a warehouse, you need to stay organized?
Anyways, thanks for understanding the time crunch. I'm really sorry for the whole delay in getting this out. At the end of the buy, I'll take you all through a ride of the process I've been going through. I wish I documented photos for everything, but I guess we can't dwell on the past.
In other news, things are looking up, and I'm so grateful that people are understanding of everything that is going on.
Last thing - Sorry I don't visit here everyday. I've been trying to be on my phone (when out) less often. I've noticed that it's a huge bad habit that I have nowadays, so sorry if my responses are less than optimal. Rest assured, that emails are being tended to at least once a day.
Hope you all have a great weekend, and spend it with loved ones. Cheers, and I'll keep you all updated.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:38:01
Jchan, I emailed you regarding changing shipping address to a US proxy instead since you're unable to ship international. Let me know if that arrangement is possible.
Uhhh, I'm not sure if I got this email. Please bump it (unless I responded... but I don't remember seeing it)
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:39:24
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word?
How many successful group buys have you run where everything showed up 100% according to schedule?
It's not an easy thing. Why do you think 9 out of 10 kick starters never deliver according to their original timeline? Things happen outside of your control, you have to learn to deal with it. Unless Jchan says at some point that all boards have shipped and you don't get yours (at which point raise a ruckus) then just chill out.
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Oh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date. My concern isn't about missing the original timeline - I really never expected that to be met even though Jchan was super optimistic (During the announcement he talked about how this GB won't have delays like the others). It's the constant "Will ship next week - [one or two weeks of silence] - [New unexpected delay] Will ship next week" - [one or two weeks of silence] - Repeat" that's gotten old.
Would much rather have been told to wait till September/October instead of hearing "Will ship this/next week" every couple of weeks since June. Again, just a realistic update instead of an overly optimistic new deadline that'll most likely be missed again anyway.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:49:48
Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word?
How many successful group buys have you run where everything showed up 100% according to schedule?
It's not an easy thing. Why do you think 9 out of 10 kick starters never deliver according to their original timeline? Things happen outside of your control, you have to learn to deal with it. Unless Jchan says at some point that all boards have shipped and you don't get yours (at which point raise a ruckus) then just chill out.
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Oh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date. My concern isn't about missing the original timeline - I really never expected that to be met even though Jchan was super optimistic (During the announcement he talked about how this GB won't have delays like the others). It's the constant "Will ship next week - [one or two weeks of silence] - [New unexpected delay] Will ship next week" - [one or two weeks of silence] - Repeat" that's gotten old.
Would much rather have been told to wait till September/October instead of hearing "Will ship this/next week" every couple of weeks since June. Again, just a realistic update instead of an overly optimistic new deadline that'll most likely be missed again anyway.
Hi Anthony,
I've been trying to ship boards every week.
A GB for a quality board is not just
- Design
- Order
- Pay
- Wait
- Ship out.
There is so much more organization involved in the process.
Here are many things that I do on the back end
- Talk to Customs
- Talk to a Customs Broker
- Wait for the shipment
- Make wire transfer for payments
- Ask for updates on the shipment
- Organize people's orders
- Refund people's cancels
- Adjust people's orders
- Send replacements/support stuff / email stuff / change emails
- QC 450 boards (over 1200 pieces, plate, weight, etc)
But there's a tad more to the QC process. You've seen how the boards are packed, but I also have to open the boxes, throw away the other boxes, make sure there's enough room in my dumpster, and such.
While I don't want to bore people with the little things that I do, I feel like it's now necessary to tell you that there is a lot of trash that I have to take care of with this. The boxes for this took me 4 trips to the recycling center in my Prius because I couldn't fit them all.
I also had to take 2 trips to DHL to drop off the parts that are bad because I had to pack them well in a lot of wrap to make sure they don't get damaged in transit, and try to compact them so I don't pay thousands in express air fees. Please also remember that it takes me time to load my car, move the boxes, reorganize, and such to stay optimal and efficient.
Anthony - I want to reiterate that there's a lot more to a GB than just shipping a board. A lot of people try to hide this process because it's boring and these details are not that important. I understand your frustration, but please understand that I'm frustrated that I don't have enough hours in my day to get everything out.
I hope this helps shed a little more light to what GB runners go through, and I hope people empathize with the process and stress that it takes for us to do this kind of stuff. I hope this in no way discourages people from running their own Buys, but it's definitely taken a toll on me.
Post by: jeffbolton on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:59:43
Quote
Oh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date.
I feel like you must be lucky, most buys I am in take longer than expected.
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:01:08
QuoteOh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date.
I feel like you must be lucky, most buys I am in take longer than expected.
???
I think you misread. I said only one has ever been on time; all the others have been delayed by weeks and months.
Post by: jeffbolton on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:06:58
QuoteOh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date.
I feel like you must be lucky, most buys I am in take longer than expected.
???
I think you misread. I said only one has ever been on time; all the others have been delayed by weeks and months.
Ha yeah I am a dope.
Hi everyone,
Still here. Finishing up MC Rebirth, and then working on about the M65A this weekend. I have to clear the rear room where the pallets (from the M65A) are, to make room for the Muted pallet, and then move the pallets inside so I can start packing them. Who knew when you have a warehouse, you need to stay organized?
Anyways, thanks for understanding the time crunch. I'm really sorry for the whole delay in getting this out. At the end of the buy, I'll take you all through a ride of the process I've been going through. I wish I documented photos for everything, but I guess we can't dwell on the past.
In other news, things are looking up, and I'm so grateful that people are understanding of everything that is going on.
Last thing - Sorry I don't visit here everyday. I've been trying to be on my phone (when out) less often. I've noticed that it's a huge bad habit that I have nowadays, so sorry if my responses are less than optimal. Rest assured, that emails are being tended to at least once a day.
Hope you all have a great weekend, and spend it with loved ones. Cheers, and I'll keep you all updated.
Thanks Jchan for the even expanding the buy and all the hard work making it happen.
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:10:43
You're free to run your own GB. The guy is constantly updating. People like me who missed the GB can thank people like you for making sure another isn't happening.Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word? At this point some of us just want clarity and honesty - maybe a realistic ship date instead of the weekly "[Insert reason/excuse for delay] Will ship next week."
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Post by: gutsack on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:11:46
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Thanks for this awesome board, jchan. Well worth the wait. (Oh, and thanks for the awesome design, RAMA!)
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:14:04
Built my M65-A last night. Here are a few photos.
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Thanks for this awesome board, jchan. Well worth the wait. (Oh, and thanks for the awesome design, RAMA!)
Just saw this on Reddit, and it looks amazing. Great choice of LED, and that set is amazing. Those accents :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:34:01
You're free to run your own GB. The guy is constantly updating. People like me who missed the GB can thank people like you for making sure another isn't happening.Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word? At this point some of us just want clarity and honesty - maybe a realistic ship date instead of the weekly "[Insert reason/excuse for delay] Will ship next week."
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lol you're taking your salt out on other people. Jchan literally said that the buy was overwhelming and didn't wanna do another because of that reason. Not cause people complain xD
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Fri, 25 August 2017, 17:34:18
You're free to run your own GB. The guy is constantly updating. People like me who missed the GB can thank people like you for making sure another isn't happening.Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word? At this point some of us just want clarity and honesty - maybe a realistic ship date instead of the weekly "[Insert reason/excuse for delay] Will ship next week."
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?
R2 isn't happening any time soon not because people are expecting actual updates but because Keyclack took on too big of a task and is just too exhausted for another run. Seriously, how are you blaming the
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 18:27:47
You're free to run your own GB. The guy is constantly updating. People like me who missed the GB can thank people like you for making sure another isn't happening.Another week of nothing? Not like I'm surprised at this point thoughYou really need to complain when you've waited this long?
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You really need to complain about customers complaining? You're not even in the GB.
Is it really too much to ask for updates and to expect Keyclack to keep their word? At this point some of us just want clarity and honesty - maybe a realistic ship date instead of the weekly "[Insert reason/excuse for delay] Will ship next week."
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R2 isn't happening any time soon not because people are expecting actual updates but because Keyclack took on too big of a task and is just too exhausted for another run. Seriously, how are you blaming theparticipantscustomers for this? Is it because too many of us bought into the GB when he removed the initial 200-order cutoff point for the GB? And if you're actually pissed off about that, I was in the first 200.
Actually, no one was in the first 200. I went in chronological order from the google sheets.
Post by: Dominathan on Fri, 25 August 2017, 18:56:13
Actually, no one was in the first 200. I went in chronological order from the google sheets.
The order numbers aren't chronological? Or am I more confused than I think I am?
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 18:58:13
Actually, no one was in the first 200. I went in chronological order from the google sheets.
The order numbers aren't chronological? Or am I more confused than I think I am?
When you were charged, you were charged in the order that you submitted to the Google Form.
Your order number corresponds to that number.
This is 100% irrelevant to the current state of the buy.
But I want to urge everyone to stop bringing salt in here. Thanks.
Post by: Quakemz on Fri, 25 August 2017, 19:11:01
Full black M65-A with Mod-H switches.
Waiting for SA Carbon from massdrop (shipping next year i know), probably buy some tai hao keycaps in the mean time.
Holy ****, I never thought about how good the all black version would look. Very clean, my friend!
Post by: Quakemz on Fri, 25 August 2017, 19:55:54
Like in most GBs, I'm seeing some complaining in this thread, and I get it. Of course everyone wants perfectly accurate updates as often as possible and for their products to ship by the estimated time. That's a given. As customers, we want everything to be perfect and go as smooth as possible. For those that run GBs or are actually familiar with how they work, you know this is basically never possible. There are too many variables and logistic issues that can make a GB a living nightmare, not only for us, but even more-so with the vendor, because not only do they have to deal with the issue themselves, but also have to deal with all of us whining about this and that, then get hate when they try to keep up with everything, but miss something.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but when you voluntarily join a group buy like this one here, you should lose your right to complain about timelines, especially if you've been in a group buy before. Group buys are a complex thing, especially on this scale, and especially for one person to handle. Group buys are really not terribly different from buying a product via normal in-stock retail. The only difference is, instead of you doing the waiting, the vendor did the waiting for you. You never get to see all the back-end logistic issues, because you were never there. Delays are almost inevitable, and I know that putting your money in up-front should grant you certain privileges, but complaining when fairly normal GB things are happening should not be one of them. This GB is still much shorter than a lot of other ones, and even though there have been delays, they're really nothing terribly out of the ordinary, if you're a frequenter to group buys of this caliber. Having a handful of messed up parts needing replacements and not getting enough stabilizers, etc. These are all fairly minor issues in the grand scheme of a GB. Yes, it sucks you have to wait a little longer, but it's not like you won't receive your product. More-so, you're always free to ask for a refund, and he will happily oblige.
Could this GB have had a more realistic timeline? Sure, just like 99/100 GBs could. But when you put your money into it, you know you're going to be waiting and clearly you have the time for it, otherwise you would either not have joined, or waited for the extras to be in stock. Nobody should have the right to just whine about the timeline - particularly if you're used to GBs, and the GB runner is actually doing as much work as they can, which he is doing here. Jchan had to spend some of his work time in the hospital, and he's coordinating SEVERAL GBs right now. Did he bite off more than he can chew with the M65-A? Yeah, quite possibly, but he's still a genuine person and vendor, and you WILL get your items that you paid for. It's not like you're being scammed here. So please, just be patient, send words of kindness and encouragement, and look at all the pretty pictures of the M65 other people are posting. Whining about things that aren't going to change doesn't help anything, at all. Seriously, it's actually counter-productive. It doesn't make the vendor feel better or work harder. It just makes him feel disappointed in the community and unmotivated, especially if he has to spend time replying to people's hate mail, justifying himself, like I've seen in this thread a few times already. That's time when he can be putting actual work into the GBs themselves, instead of wasting it on us. I know that level of customer service is expected from a popular vendor like Jchan, but there have been TONS of updates in this thread, it's not like he's just ghosting on us.
Again, just please be patient and kind, because that's literally the fastest way to get your products. Keep up the hard work Jchan, I know first-hand how much work you do, and it makes me beyond tired just thinking about it. To all the people that support Jchan and this GB, keep it up. If you haven't been rewarded already, you will be when you open up that sweet sweet box of awesome that is the M65. :thumb:
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 25 August 2017, 20:00:55
I think [...] SA [...] makes everything look a little silly.
FTFY
QFT
[Q]uantum [F]ield [T]heory :)
Post by: robbles on Fri, 25 August 2017, 20:40:31
Built my M65-A last night. Here are a few photos.
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Thanks for this awesome board, jchan. Well worth the wait. (Oh, and thanks for the awesome design, RAMA!)
Wow this looks amazing! Prolly my favorite M65-A build I've seen so far.
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 25 August 2017, 22:25:35
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FD32Bvb.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fK8GlZC.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F6WzNIJ.jpg?1)
Wow, looks great!
What switches did you use?
How do you like the brass plate?
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 26 August 2017, 08:53:02
Hey everyone, even though I've already received my M65-A, I'd like to point a few things out, as I've been following this thread a bit:
Like in most GBs, I'm seeing some complaining in this thread, and I get it. Of course everyone wants perfectly accurate updates as often as possible and for their products to ship by the estimated time. That's a given. As customers, we want everything to be perfect and go as smooth as possible. For those that run GBs or are actually familiar with how they work, you know this is basically never possible. There are too many variables and logistic issues that can make a GB a living nightmare, not only for us, but even more-so with the vendor, because not only do they have to deal with the issue themselves, but also have to deal with all of us whining about this and that, then get hate when they try to keep up with everything, but miss something.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but when you voluntarily join a group buy like this one here, you should lose your right to complain about timelines, especially if you've been in a group buy before. Group buys are a complex thing, especially on this scale, and especially for one person to handle. Group buys are really not terribly different from buying a product via normal in-stock retail. The only difference is, instead of you doing the waiting, the vendor did the waiting for you. You never get to see all the back-end logistic issues, because you were never there. Delays are almost inevitable, and I know that putting your money in up-front should grant you certain privileges, but complaining when fairly normal GB things are happening should not be one of them. This GB is still much shorter than a lot of other ones, and even though there have been delays, they're really nothing terribly out of the ordinary, if you're a frequenter to group buys of this caliber. Having a handful of messed up parts needing replacements and not getting enough stabilizers, etc. These are all fairly minor issues in the grand scheme of a GB. Yes, it sucks you have to wait a little longer, but it's not like you won't receive your product. More-so, you're always free to ask for a refund, and he will happily oblige.
Could this GB have had a more realistic timeline? Sure, just like 99/100 GBs could. But when you put your money into it, you know you're going to be waiting and clearly you have the time for it, otherwise you would either not have joined, or waited for the extras to be in stock. Nobody should have the right to just whine about the timeline - particularly if you're used to GBs, and the GB runner is actually doing as much work as they can, which he is doing here. Jchan had to spend some of his work time in the hospital, and he's coordinating SEVERAL GBs right now. Did he bite off more than he can chew with the M65-A? Yeah, quite possibly, but he's still a genuine person and vendor, and you WILL get your items that you paid for. It's not like you're being scammed here. So please, just be patient, send words of kindness and encouragement, and look at all the pretty pictures of the M65 other people are posting. Whining about things that aren't going to change doesn't help anything, at all. Seriously, it's actually counter-productive. It doesn't make the vendor feel better or work harder. It just makes him feel disappointed in the community and unmotivated, especially if he has to spend time replying to people's hate mail, justifying himself, like I've seen in this thread a few times already. That's time when he can be putting actual work into the GBs themselves, instead of wasting it on us. I know that level of customer service is expected from a popular vendor like Jchan, but there have been TONS of updates in this thread, it's not like he's just ghosting on us.
Again, just please be patient and kind, because that's literally the fastest way to get your products. Keep up the hard work Jchan, I know first-hand how much work you do, and it makes me beyond tired just thinking about it. To all the people that support Jchan and this GB, keep it up. If you haven't been rewarded already, you will be when you open up that sweet sweet box of awesome that is the M65. :thumb:
this is a bad take. the idea that a purchaser should not complain about the lack of clarity into shipping a product that they paid for with certain timeliness expectations should not be a norm for the community. you appeal to the failure of most group buys to run on time as a way to justify this norm but that norm isn't right and shouldn't be the baseline, imo.
jchan isn't doing this for free. if he was, i think our expectations could be modified accordingly. some people have gotten their kits while others haven't. and it's odd but it seems certain people within the community got their kits before others.
simply, people are entitled to complain about this as they are customers. if you can't handle the complaints you can decide to not run group buys or a keyboard business. i don't condone personal attacks or anything of that nature but voicing dissatisfaction should not be a taboo or unwelcomed act.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 10:16:43
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Post by: delivery on Sat, 26 August 2017, 10:22:02
Post by: Corgi Butts on Sat, 26 August 2017, 10:22:08
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Jchan, feel free to send me a refunded invoice!
Seriously people, you will get your keyboard. Be patient and understand that this is a group buy run by a single person on a hobbyist site, right in the middle of irl family issues, and it's still being run better than the SNES Classic preorders.
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Post by: Malenky on Sat, 26 August 2017, 10:26:30
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sat, 26 August 2017, 11:29:56
First time I've used sculpted SA and while it feels fantastic on clicky/tactile or light spring switches, on heavy linears they feel like a massive chore to use.
Definitely putting 65g zeals in my rose gold for these, can't wait!
Post by: cooperred on Sat, 26 August 2017, 12:09:29
Jchan, sent you a PM on reddit and an email. Need to change shipping addresses since I'm moving.
Jchan, did you get the email? Bumped it yesterday.
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 26 August 2017, 14:39:31
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
to be clear, i'm not complaining about the state of the gb and haven't been even though it is frustrating to not have the kit yet. i get that things happen and personally i want things to go well for you in both your business and personal lives. i was merely responding to quakemz and this idea that people shouldn't complain based on the norm that group buys seem to rarely go according to plan. that's a failure of the community as a whole and shouldn't serve as an excuse which can perpetuate the phenomenon.
i can critique some of the choices you've made but i don't think that's useful or frankly healthy for you. but coming from someone who has been in business for a while (and i'm sure other group buy runners can attest to this), people will complain. the scope and validity of those complaints will vary. how you respond to them is what matters. don't let them affect you personally. especially when your personal life requires so much of you emotionally. accept they exist, and to the extent they are valid, do your best to address them. offering a refund is a nice gesture.
Post by: breusch91 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 15:02:39
My only problem with this gb, and I think others would agree was the updated timelines you kept giving towards the end that weren't realistic. Personally id much rather just get a "hey there's going to be a month or so delay at least, I'm working my hardest but I can't give give a guarantee date due to real life events" I'd be okay with that. I just didn't like the oh it ships this Tuesday, then we don't hear anything for a week, then rinse repeat basically. Stuff like that just gets everyone's hopes up then they get crushed again. I think that's why most people were complaining so much.
Other then that Jchan do your thing man, family comes first and I can't wait to get this board and will still be joining future GBs run by you confidently. Have a good one man and hope things are getting better!
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Post by: Quakemz on Sat, 26 August 2017, 20:39:48
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
to be clear, i'm not complaining about the state of the gb and haven't been even though it is frustrating to not have the kit yet. i get that things happen and personally i want things to go well for you in both your business and personal lives. i was merely responding to quakemz and this idea that people shouldn't complain based on the norm that group buys seem to rarely go according to plan. that's a failure of the community as a whole and shouldn't serve as an excuse which can perpetuate the phenomenon.
i can critique some of the choices you've made but i don't think that's useful or frankly healthy for you. but coming from someone who has been in business for a while (and i'm sure other group buy runners can attest to this), people will complain. the scope and validity of those complaints will vary. how you respond to them is what matters. don't let them affect you personally. especially when your personal life requires so much of you emotionally. accept they exist, and to the extent they are valid, do your best to address them. offering a refund is a nice gesture.
The problem is, whining about something doesn't do anything, except for maybe make YOU feel better. It doesn't change anything else. Nothing. GB runners and vendors are often at the mercy of the manufacturers. What you should be doing is complaining to them, instead of the middleman trying his hardest to get you your order. People have been whining about timelines in GBs for years, and guess what, it hasn't gotten any better. Know the risks of GBs when you enter them, that's what everyone needs to do. It's like complaining to your waitress that your food took too long to cook, when they didn't even make it, the cooks did. I've worked in customer service for 12 years, and it's that kind of mindset that makes everything such a pain in the ass.
Post by: Quakemz on Sat, 26 August 2017, 20:50:00
I trust jchan to get me a great product and that the quality will be held to high standards. If it's not I know it will be fixed. That's why I was confident to join this GB. That still holds true
My only problem with this gb, and I think others would agree was the updated timelines you kept giving towards the end that weren't realistic. Personally id much rather just get a "hey there's going to be a month or so delay at least, I'm working my hardest but I can't give give a guarantee date due to real life events" I'd be okay with that. I just didn't like the oh it ships this Tuesday, then we don't hear anything for a week, then rinse repeat basically. Stuff like that just gets everyone's hopes up then they get crushed again. I think that's why most people were complaining so much.
Other then that Jchan do your thing man, family comes first and I can't wait to get this board and will still be joining future GBs run by you confidently. Have a good one man and hope things are getting better!
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Yeah, this I can agree with. Jchan tends to be too positive, when he should just say it's gonna be a bit. I mean, he'll get hate either way, but I agree a more realistic update would be best. :)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:13:42
Hope jchan can get the rest of the boards out soon!
(http://i.imgur.com/wBlhfJW.jpg)
Post by: bciamny on Sun, 27 August 2017, 10:20:53
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
to be clear, i'm not complaining about the state of the gb and haven't been even though it is frustrating to not have the kit yet. i get that things happen and personally i want things to go well for you in both your business and personal lives. i was merely responding to quakemz and this idea that people shouldn't complain based on the norm that group buys seem to rarely go according to plan. that's a failure of the community as a whole and shouldn't serve as an excuse which can perpetuate the phenomenon.
i can critique some of the choices you've made but i don't think that's useful or frankly healthy for you. but coming from someone who has been in business for a while (and i'm sure other group buy runners can attest to this), people will complain. the scope and validity of those complaints will vary. how you respond to them is what matters. don't let them affect you personally. especially when your personal life requires so much of you emotionally. accept they exist, and to the extent they are valid, do your best to address them. offering a refund is a nice gesture.
The problem is, whining about something doesn't do anything, except for maybe make YOU feel better. It doesn't change anything else. Nothing. GB runners and vendors are often at the mercy of the manufacturers. What you should be doing is complaining to them, instead of the middleman trying his hardest to get you your order. People have been whining about timelines in GBs for years, and guess what, it hasn't gotten any better. Know the risks of GBs when you enter them, that's what everyone needs to do. It's like complaining to your waitress that your food took too long to cook, when they didn't even make it, the cooks did. I've worked in customer service for 12 years, and it's that kind of mindset that makes everything such a pain in the ass.
i don't think you should discount the value of making oneself feel better. venting frustration is a valid emotional act.
and it communicates dissatisfaction with a certain process. it makes public that things aren't going the way it was expected. this allows others in the future (because of the posterity of threads) to determine whether they want to deal with similar issues in the future. i've watched many gbs lately run with delays and i've avoided certain gbs ran by certain groups because of past performance.
with your waiter analogy, you are the customer interface and if the customer can't express dissatisfaction it is almost as if they have no voice in expressing that frustration. you would purportedly let your manager know that customers complained or the cooks that the customers aren't happy. it'd be better if that happened than for you to "randomly" get no tip or a 2% tip with the issue remaining unknown and the enterprise suffering as a whole for it.
i'm contributing to derailing this thread so i'm going to stop after this response.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 14:28:39
i don't think you should discount the value of making oneself feel better. venting frustration is a valid emotional act.
and it communicates dissatisfaction with a certain process. it makes public that things aren't going the way it was expected. this allows others in the future (because of the posterity of threads) to determine whether they want to deal with similar issues in the future. i've watched many gbs lately run with delays and i've avoided certain gbs ran by certain groups because of past performance.
I don't think anyone was questioning the validity of blowing off steam... The point is you DON'T have to do it here. You can do it in email or pms, you can do it in chat rooms. To do it in public is NOT just a means to make yourself feel better, its a means to attack and belittle someone else to make yourself feel better. You gain nothing from trying to make a GB runner look bad in front of others.
What you seem to not grasp is, when you complain in a GB thread, intentional or not, what you are doing is attacking the GB runner and saying they are inadequate. So while there may be value in making oneself feel better, you need to ALSO consider there is a detriment to making OTHER PEOPLE feel worse, even if it WAS done to make yourself feel better. jchan is clearly already under a bunch of stress. He clearly is doing everything he can to get the boards out as fast as he can all while dealing with his own real life ****. You can't just pretend like there isn't a person on the other end. You cannot just ignore that you might be causing issues for other people to make yourself feel better.
It is one thing to complain when you have a LEGITIMATE concern. If you actually feel like you are not going to receive what you paid for, complain all day long, no one will fault you. But when you complain about delays because you are jealous of the people who already have received their boards and are posting online, you aren't helping anyone, you aren't benefiting anyone.
Do you think that only you are eager to get what you bought? Do you think the GB runner WANTS to make you wait? Do you think he's just a sadist?
Also you are fundamentally misunderstanding what quakemz point was. It is one thing to complain if you order a salad and it takes 2 hours to receive it, but if you order something that takes 10 minutes to cook and you got it in 11 minutes, you really don't have any ground to stand on. No matter how much you complain, it will NEVER EVER be there in less than 10 minutes because then the food just wouldn't be done, sure you could shave a few SECONDS by having the food LITERALLY run to your table, but that's it.
At the end of the day, jchan can only pack and ship so many boxes in a day, he can only fit so many in his vehicle, he can only deal with so much trash at once. Yes, M65 buyers are absolutely entitled to their keyboards, but so too are Grand Budapest and Muted and Camping buyers entitled to their caps. Would you like to go explain to all the people that bought all those things that they were delayed because the amazing M65 buyers are just sooo much more important that they have to wait because bciamny is sad?
Post by: mnmlisme on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:13:48
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:40:05
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:31:19
M65-A-0132
M65-A-0399
M65-A-0407
M65-A-0482
M65-A-0488
M65-A-0493
gets picked up tmr, cheers.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 19:22:38
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 27 August 2017, 20:27:11
I swear some of y'all talk way too damn much.
Kinda the point of a text-based forum, else we'd all be shouting over each other on a voice channel instead.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 27 August 2017, 21:31:40
I swear some of y'all talk way too damn much.
Kinda the point of a text-based forum, else we'd all be shouting over each other on a voice channel instead.
Not even close to what I mean. Good try tho
Post by: Fitzpa on Sun, 27 August 2017, 22:30:11
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 28 August 2017, 07:36:06
If anyone has the time could someone please post a picture of the mousepad?
Sorry, phone camera has terrible quality
(http://i.imgur.com/ALnkK2s.jpg)
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 28 August 2017, 09:21:57
M65-A-083
M65-A-0132
M65-A-0399
M65-A-0407
M65-A-0482
M65-A-0488
M65-A-0493
gets picked up tmr, cheers.
Yeah, boiiiiii. I'm in that list!
Post by: CamRank1 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 18:34:20
M65-A-083
M65-A-0132
M65-A-0399
M65-A-0407
M65-A-0482
M65-A-0488
M65-A-0493
gets picked up tmr, cheers.
This isn't me, but I'm very happy to see some more going out!
Post by: aneasyusername on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:42:49
Post by: Rumblehotep on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:47:33
I have everything everything essential for my build, but I keep going back and forth on whether or not I want to pick up some lube and SIP sockets to add. These delays and the lack of shipment on my order make me lean towards ordering some, but then I have hope that mine will be in the next shipment and that I'd rather do my build as soon as possible instead of waiting on more pieces after my M65-A gets here. Decisions, decisions...Make it Right instead of making it Quick
Post by: Aesomatica on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:18:53
Post by: SwordLaker on Mon, 28 August 2017, 23:21:53
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Didn't buy a M65A, but GMK Muted. The thread was so terrifyingly quiet without update so long that I had to lurk around and find out what the heck was going on. Yup, and I found this post.
Let's just point out a couple of things:
Keyclack is a business vendor taking crowdfunded orders, with a professional website and order management. It takes a cut and earns profits for every successful run. Needless to say, the profits come from participants' wallets. When jchan94 decided to run this as a one-man business, he was cutting operating costs at the expense of possible delays and shortage of manpower. The risk is now simply taking its tolls.
As a fellow community member, I'm entirely sympathetic with jchan's situation, and wish him the best.
As a business customer, I'm darn unhappy. I paid jchan to get things for me. He took his cut, and he failed, because he thought he didn't need to hire someone else as a backup to keep things in schedule. Worse, I had to do my own PI souring to find out what is going on, without a single update email. I and every GB participant has every right to complain and bring salt over.
You guys need to get the idea right: vendors are businesses operating for bucks. Some of them do nice things and are friendly sometimes. But the end of day, they mostly do it for a buck. And I'm not talking about any single vendor here.
I could go on way longer, but let's leave it at that.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:04:03
MoreI want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Thanks for the update jchan. I'm in no rush, family is definitely more important. Hope things look up for you and yours soon :thumb:
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:05:30
MoreI want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Thanks for the update jchan. I'm in no rush, family is definitely more important. Hope things look up for you and yours soon :thumb:
^^
<3 you buddy
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:15:25
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Didn't buy a M65A, but GMK Muted. The thread was so terrifyingly quiet without update so long that I had to lurk around and find out what the heck was going on. Yup, and I found this post.
Let's just point out a couple of things:
Keyclack is a business vendor taking crowdfunded orders, with a professional website and order management. It takes a cut and earns profits for every successful run. Needless to say, the profits come from participants' wallets. When jchan94 decided to run this as a one-man business, he was cutting operating costs at the expense of possible delays and shortage of manpower. The risk is now simply taking its tolls.
As a fellow community member, I'm entirely sympathetic with jchan's situation, and wish him the best.
As a business customer, I'm darn unhappy. I paid jchan to get things for me. He took his cut, and he failed, because he thought he didn't need to hire someone else as a backup to keep things in schedule. Worse, I had to do my own PI souring to find out what is going on, without a single update email. I and every GB participant has every right to complain and bring salt over.
You guys need to get the idea right: vendors are businesses operating for bucks. Some of them do nice things and are friendly sometimes. But the end of day, they mostly do it for a buck. And I'm not talking about any single vendor here.
I could go on way longer, but let's leave it at that.
Hi, thanks for your concern. I'm not going to defend myself, by stating some excuse, but let's talk about numbers.
I've never wanted to admit something, but here are some numbers for transparency, so you at least understand that I do some GBs for non-profit. I thought muted was a cool set, and I didn't think it would make it without a little push, and a better price point, so I put it near the edge. Muted was a special set. It was actually inspired a lot of Mewtwo rofl. But then I thought Mewtwo sounded silly.
Cost of GMK Muted (including customs, forwarding, paypal fees collected: 27106.8
Total collected from the GB: 26750
Net Profit: One Awesome set and I lost 356.8$ or so.
These numbers do not include:
- Sales tax (collected by the state, so they do not count)
- Shipping to end person (cause it's used for shipping).
- An hourly wage.
If I paid myself minimum wage, I'd say I would have to spend at least 60-80 hours organizing, customer service, packing stuff, and moving boxes.
Was it the best decision to make? Nah. It's completely stupid.
Then why do it? Because keycaps bro
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:24:34
I've decided to flip out and quit keyboards. jk.
I'll be packing about 30 boards tomorrow.
My whole personal thing situation should be better by next week.
Thanks for understanding everyone :)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:52:18
Anyways,
I've decided to flip out and quit keyboards. jk.
I'll be packing about 30 boards tomorrow.
My whole personal thing situation should be better by next week.
Thanks for understanding everyone :)
Good to hear things looking better. m65-a 0493 needs to hurry to my casa :p
Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 29 August 2017, 01:55:15
I want to clarify some things.
1. Certain people did receive theirs, but if you're thinking about targeting Brian, he asked me a long time ago to bring it for the Seattle meetup. I took a few up there as carry on luggage.
2. The only thing I'm asking for is patience while I'm currently split between the hospital and work. While it's important to you to get a keyboard, it's important for me to visit my family.
3. You're allowed to complain, of course, but I think that you should give me a little break as I'm currently in the middle of what I'd like to call a break down from the amount of life that I'm dealing with. So please, give me a moment to stabilize life, my emotional state, and the work.
I've been in the hospital more this year, than I have my whole life. And whether it means anything to you, but my family is every thing to me. They will always take priority over any work, or keyboard, or anything in between.
4. If you're so unsatisfied with waiting, please just take a refund. Everyday I'm at the hospital, I just read the comments of what I haven't been doing, but I can only do so much at this current state.
All the boards are in - I need time to pack them. When you look at the number of boards I already packed, you don't consider how much time it still takes to process all the boards.and yes, despite being a vendor, it still takes a lot of time to do this in way you'll be satisfied with the board you get. I don't have to work weekends to do this - but I do, because I know how excited people are. And I've been itching to get this out. I don't want this sitting in my office, anymore than you do. If you wanted to know how efficiently I've been able to pack one, it takes about 15 minutes with qc not including loading them for dhl or FedEx.
And of course, if you're not happy with the state of where this is at - you are always welcomed to taking a refund.
I hope everyone understands where I'm at right now. It's the weekend, but I hope you all have a good one, and can expect these to go out as soon as they can. Thanks for understanding, and I hope these matters get resolved soon.
I'm truly sorry, but again if you are not happy - please take the refund, PayPal fees are included as well.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
Didn't buy a M65A, but GMK Muted. The thread was so terrifyingly quiet without update so long that I had to lurk around and find out what the heck was going on. Yup, and I found this post.
Let's just point out a couple of things:
Keyclack is a business vendor taking crowdfunded orders, with a professional website and order management. It takes a cut and earns profits for every successful run. Needless to say, the profits come from participants' wallets. When jchan94 decided to run this as a one-man business, he was cutting operating costs at the expense of possible delays and shortage of manpower. The risk is now simply taking its tolls.
As a fellow community member, I'm entirely sympathetic with jchan's situation, and wish him the best.
As a business customer, I'm darn unhappy. I paid jchan to get things for me. He took his cut, and he failed, because he thought he didn't need to hire someone else as a backup to keep things in schedule. Worse, I had to do my own PI souring to find out what is going on, without a single update email. I and every GB participant has every right to complain and bring salt over.
You guys need to get the idea right: vendors are businesses operating for bucks. Some of them do nice things and are friendly sometimes. But the end of day, they mostly do it for a buck. And I'm not talking about any single vendor here.
I could go on way longer, but let's leave it at that.
Hi, thanks for your concern. I'm not going to defend myself, by stating some excuse, but let's talk about numbers.
I've never wanted to admit something, but here are some numbers for transparency, so you at least understand that I do some GBs for non-profit. I thought muted was a cool set, and I didn't think it would make it without a little push, and a better price point, so I put it near the edge. Muted was a special set. It was actually inspired a lot of Mewtwo rofl. But then I thought Mewtwo sounded silly.
Cost of GMK Muted (including customs, forwarding, paypal fees collected: 27106.8
Total collected from the GB: 26750
Net Profit: One Awesome set and I lost 356.8$ or so.
These numbers do not include:
- Sales tax (collected by the state, so they do not count)
- Shipping to end person (cause it's used for shipping).
- An hourly wage.
If I paid myself minimum wage, I'd say I would have to spend at least 60-80 hours organizing, customer service, packing stuff, and moving boxes.
Was it the best decision to make? Nah. It's completely stupid.
Then why do it? Because keycaps bro
First of all, thanks for replying and not remaining silent.
I, however, want to query about the GMK Muted leftovers sale (which was opened once in May, and another recently with the popup store), with a markup. Shouldn't that help you recoup some of the cost?
I hope nobody will see this as a personal attack. I'm genuinely curious.
Post by: delivery on Tue, 29 August 2017, 03:27:13
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:01:45
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:11:50
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:13:09
Those complaining (the vocal minority) should be ashamed, for real.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:40:00
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 06:16:04
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
Because he paid up front for them while GB orders were already paid for by the customers.
Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:16:02
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:19:19
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Can you quote JChan saying anything to support this?
Post by: Corgi Butts on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:21:54
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Yea, so why would there be a markup over the original invoice price if they are cancelled orders being resold by the original seller? Wouldn't Jchan just sell them at invoice price? He's not a flipper, he's the organizer of the group buy.
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Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:49:05
There might be other reasons for that I'm not aware of. But I'm assuming this for now, considering it being something common and justifiable. I'll wait for a response from jchan himself.
But yeah, again, the markups are a fact. So are refunds in the course of a GB.
Edit: grammar.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:00:51
First of all, I'm not quoting anyone to say these. The markup in the leftover extras is a fact (GMK Muted base set was sold for $180 recently at the pop-up store). These are very basic and common thinking of someone trading on the market.
There might be other reasons for that I'm not aware of. But I'm assuming this for now, considering it being something common and justifiable. I'll wait for a response from jchan himself.
But yeah, again, the markups are a fact. So are refunds in the course of a GB.
Edit: grammar.
Typically I only see markup in the resale market, not often do I see the creator sell their extras at markup. But I appreciate knowing you are just speculating and that JChan has not said anything to this effect. I'm curious to see how these extras end up pricing out.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:04:04
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Yea, so why would there be a markup over the original invoice price if they are cancelled orders being resold by the original seller? Wouldn't Jchan just sell them at invoice price? He's not a flipper, he's the organizer of the group buy.
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Because jchan is running a business, not a charity. When he puts down 5k$ of his own money to buy 30 extra units or whatever those numbers might be, then he is making a simple investment and expects a return on it. Same as him buying extra units for keysets etc. This is his job, he makes a profit so he doesn't have to flip burgers while running these GB's.
Regarding not selling refunded at initial cost: Would you? When people are refunding near the end of the GB and you got spare cash in your bank account and the item is already in very high demand, it's an easy opportunity to make some extra dough. Nothing immoral or shady going on here IMO.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:08:13
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Yea, so why would there be a markup over the original invoice price if they are cancelled orders being resold by the original seller? Wouldn't Jchan just sell them at invoice price? He's not a flipper, he's the organizer of the group buy.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Because jchan is running a business, not a charity. When he puts down 5k$ of his own money to buy 30 extra units or whatever those numbers might be, then he is making a simple investment and expects a return on it. Same as him buying extra units for keysets etc. This is his job, he makes a profit so he doesn't have to flip burgers while running these GB's.
Regarding not selling refunded at initial cost: Would you? When people are refunding near the end of the GB and you got spare cash in your bank account and the item is already in very high demand, it's an easy opportunity to make some extra dough. Nothing immoral or shady going on here IMO.
I dunno. I have run some group buys for stuff (non-keeb) in the past. Nothing near this total cost, but I purchased the items in bulk myself, paid out of my own pocket, split the items into batches, and priced it at the lowest possible price I could in order to recoup my cost and end up with some of my own product at net 0 cost to me. That was it. I wasn't doing the GB to make a profit, I was doing it so that as many people as possible would have access to the product at the lowest possible price, myself included. So when people bailed on their orders I didn't mark up the price, I just offered it to the next person on the list at my original price.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:12:19
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Yea, so why would there be a markup over the original invoice price if they are cancelled orders being resold by the original seller? Wouldn't Jchan just sell them at invoice price? He's not a flipper, he's the organizer of the group buy.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Because jchan is running a business, not a charity. When he puts down 5k$ of his own money to buy 30 extra units or whatever those numbers might be, then he is making a simple investment and expects a return on it. Same as him buying extra units for keysets etc. This is his job, he makes a profit so he doesn't have to flip burgers while running these GB's.
Regarding not selling refunded at initial cost: Would you? When people are refunding near the end of the GB and you got spare cash in your bank account and the item is already in very high demand, it's an easy opportunity to make some extra dough. Nothing immoral or shady going on here IMO.
I dunno. I have run some group buys for stuff (non-keeb) in the past. Nothing near this total cost, but I purchased the items in bulk myself, paid out of my own pocket, split the items into batches, and priced it at the lowest possible price I could in order to recoup my cost and end up with some of my own product at net 0 cost to me. That was it. I wasn't doing the GB to make a profit, I was doing it so that as many people as possible would have access to the product at the lowest possible price, myself included. So when people bailed on their orders I didn't mark up the price, I just offered it to the next person on the list at my original price.
But you weren't running this GB to make a living, correct? jchan does, so having extra cash in the companies bank account is assuring he doesn't have to close doors if he has a drought.
I've purchased extra units for GMK Oblivion myself as well and am handing them off at buying price to a couple friends because I just enjoy making keysets, I didn't buy those to flip em on arrival. But I also have a day job that pays for my rent and stuff.
Post by: Arallu on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:12:39
Look at any kickstarter with early bird pricing and they are giving discounts for supporting a project early, pretty much the same thing happens.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:14:21
But you weren't running this GB to make a living, correct? jchan does, so having extra cash in the companies bank account is assuring he doesn't have to close doors if he has a drought.
I've purchased extra units for GMK Oblivion myself as well and am handing them off at buying price to a couple friends because I just enjoy making keysets, I didn't buy those to flip em on arrival. But I also have a day job that pays for my rent and stuff.
This makes total sense, especially after seeing the numbers that JChan has been working with on the financial side. I'm curious to see where the prices end up. I wasn't in a place financially to get in initially, I'm hoping the extra's won't be priced out of my budget.
Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:40:14
But you weren't running this GB to make a living, correct? jchan does, so having extra cash in the companies bank account is assuring he doesn't have to close doors if he has a drought.
I've purchased extra units for GMK Oblivion myself as well and am handing them off at buying price to a couple friends because I just enjoy making keysets, I didn't buy those to flip em on arrival. But I also have a day job that pays for my rent and stuff.
This makes total sense, especially after seeing the numbers that JChan has been working with on the financial side. I'm curious to see where the prices end up. I wasn't in a place financially to get in initially, I'm hoping the extra's won't be priced out of my budget.
The last extra was already $180. Don't expect any less for the next bath of extra.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:42:31
First of all, I'm not quoting anyone to say these. The markup in the leftover extras is a fact (GMK Muted base set was sold for $180 recently at the pop-up store). These are very basic and common thinking of someone trading on the market.
There might be other reasons for that I'm not aware of. But I'm assuming this for now, considering it being something common and justifiable. I'll wait for a response from jchan himself.
But yeah, again, the markups are a fact. So are refunds in the course of a GB.
Edit: grammar.
Typically I only see markup in the resale market, not often do I see the creator sell their extras at markup. But I appreciate knowing you are just speculating and that JChan has not said anything to this effect. I'm curious to see how these extras end up pricing out.
Actually this is not the case. Vendors very often sell sets at a markup. Look at GMK sets on Oco, they all have a markup to $180. The Key Company sold leftover Terminal sets at a markup. Zfrontier sells leftover sets at a markup. Jchan sells leftover sets at a markup. It's pretty much the norm, not the exception.
Even Massdrop sells leftover sets at a markup during their stock clearance sale (GMK carbon was $99 during the group buy, but got marked up by a decent amount in their last closet sale)
Perhaps you've been been in this hobby longer than I have (I've only really been into the keycap side of this hobby for about 2 years), but as far as memory serves, markup for post-GB sales are the norm.
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 29 August 2017, 09:04:42
Basically, you're getting a discount for taking a risk, and people buying extras pay full retail because they have a 100% probability of getting a finished product whose quality is already known.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 29 August 2017, 09:15:15
I'm not talking about keycapsFirst of all, I'm not quoting anyone to say these. The markup in the leftover extras is a fact (GMK Muted base set was sold for $180 recently at the pop-up store). These are very basic and common thinking of someone trading on the market.
There might be other reasons for that I'm not aware of. But I'm assuming this for now, considering it being something common and justifiable. I'll wait for a response from jchan himself.
But yeah, again, the markups are a fact. So are refunds in the course of a GB.
Edit: grammar.
Typically I only see markup in the resale market, not often do I see the creator sell their extras at markup. But I appreciate knowing you are just speculating and that JChan has not said anything to this effect. I'm curious to see how these extras end up pricing out.
Actually this is not the case. Vendors very often sell sets at a markup. Look at GMK sets on Oco, they all have a markup to $180. The Key Company sold leftover Terminal sets at a markup. Zfrontier sells leftover sets at a markup. Jchan sells leftover sets at a markup. It's pretty much the norm, not the exception.
Even Massdrop sells leftover sets at a markup during their stock clearance sale (GMK carbon was $99 during the group buy, but got marked up by a decent amount in their last closet sale)
Perhaps you've been been in this hobby longer than I have (I've only really been into the keycap side of this hobby for about 2 years), but as far as memory serves, markup for post-GB sales are the norm.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 29 August 2017, 09:26:30
Will there be a price difference between the first gb and the extras?
yes
Why?
The same reason people buy $120 from GB, wait, and sell the same thing for $180 on mechmarket. There's a demand from people who missed the GB.
During the course of a GB, plenty of people will lose interest and ask for refund. These will become the extras with outstanding invoices.
Yea, so why would there be a markup over the original invoice price if they are cancelled orders being resold by the original seller? Wouldn't Jchan just sell them at invoice price? He's not a flipper, he's the organizer of the group buy.
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But he has to cover the group buy price for that cancelled order out of his own pocket, and as a vendor he is obviously going to sell post-groupbuy sets at retail/markup prices rather than the groupbuy price, that was a perk for crowdfund people who helped make it possible in the first place (groupbuy to present to vendor).
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 10:02:11
As a business customer, I'm darn unhappy. I paid jchan to get things for me. He took his cut, and he failed, because he thought he didn't need to hire someone else as a backup to keep things in schedule. Worse, I had to do my own PI souring to find out what is going on, without a single update email. I and every GB participant has every right to complain and bring salt over.
You guys need to get the idea right: vendors are businesses operating for bucks. Some of them do nice things and are friendly sometimes. But the end of day, they mostly do it for a buck. And I'm not talking about any single vendor here.
I could go on way longer, but let's leave it at that.
You know you should really read the stickied "What is a group buy" thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77272.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77272.0). It states explicitly - "...it takes months, sometimes a year+ for group buys to complete. Be prepared to wait."
You're going to keep being unhappy entering groupbuys and expecting 100% delivery, 100% on time. This isn't Amazon but you're welcome to shop there.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 29 August 2017, 10:38:21
Anyone else have any pics of their build!?
Post by: davisthegreat on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:37:46
I check the thread for shipping updates, but yall's incessant whining is killing the vibe of such a great GB. We should be discussing our plans for what looks to be a very rare KB.
Dear JCHAN: You are the bomb, keep your head up and know that a majority of us appreciate your work and diligence to get these products out to us.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:51:26
Patience is really a virtue. Not to mention all the GB disclaimers that are posted. Yall would be TOO upset if the Consistent GB runners, like Jchan just quit because of some of you whining about week extensions. Jchan has communicated and remained transparent. GB's though Keyclack have always been A1. When issues arise they were communicated.
I check the thread for shipping updates, but yall's incessant whining is killing the vibe of such a great GB. We should be discussing our plans for what looks to be a very rare KB.
Dear JCHAN: You are the bomb, keep your head up and know that a majority of us appreciate your work and diligence to get these products out to us.
Let me start by saying I agree with you. JChan is the bomb and I'm stoked for my keyboard to get here. However, this isn't just a 1 or 2 week extension causing the salty-ness in here. The original ship date was late June and it's almost September. That is why people are getting upset and starting to ask for refunds.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:54:48
Patience is really a virtue. Not to mention all the GB disclaimers that are posted. Yall would be TOO upset if the Consistent GB runners, like Jchan just quit because of some of you whining about week extensions. Jchan has communicated and remained transparent. GB's though Keyclack have always been A1. When issues arise they were communicated.
I check the thread for shipping updates, but yall's incessant whining is killing the vibe of such a great GB. We should be discussing our plans for what looks to be a very rare KB.
Dear JCHAN: You are the bomb, keep your head up and know that a majority of us appreciate your work and diligence to get these products out to us.
Let me start by saying I agree with you. JChan is the bomb and I'm stoked for my keyboard to get here. However, this isn't just a 1 or 2 week extension causing the salty-ness in here. The original ship date was late June and it's almost September. That is why people are getting upset and starting to ask for refunds.
I'm actually glad at the refund requesting, considering no R2 :) And more than happy to wait for a quality keyboard, especially when the delay is cause by family health issues.
Post by: consolelog on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:02:37
Patience is really a virtue. Not to mention all the GB disclaimers that are posted. Yall would be TOO upset if the Consistent GB runners, like Jchan just quit because of some of you whining about week extensions. Jchan has communicated and remained transparent. GB's though Keyclack have always been A1. When issues arise they were communicated.
I check the thread for shipping updates, but yall's incessant whining is killing the vibe of such a great GB. We should be discussing our plans for what looks to be a very rare KB.
Dear JCHAN: You are the bomb, keep your head up and know that a majority of us appreciate your work and diligence to get these products out to us.
+1 . I come here for updates, not the whining.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:06:29
Patience is really a virtue. Not to mention all the GB disclaimers that are posted. Yall would be TOO upset if the Consistent GB runners, like Jchan just quit because of some of you whining about week extensions. Jchan has communicated and remained transparent. GB's though Keyclack have always been A1. When issues arise they were communicated.
I check the thread for shipping updates, but yall's incessant whining is killing the vibe of such a great GB. We should be discussing our plans for what looks to be a very rare KB.
Dear JCHAN: You are the bomb, keep your head up and know that a majority of us appreciate your work and diligence to get these products out to us.
+1 . I come here for updates, not the whining.
++
Post by: robbles on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:12:17
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:24:03
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:33:48
Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:36:27
GB's though Keyclack have always been A1. When issues arise they were communicated.
As a participant, I duly disagree with this particular part.
The only update I received for GMK Muted was about the delay on GMK site, stating that GMK would ship everything out in early August (which they did fulfill). Email communication has ceased ever since. The thread, on the other hand, basically goes in a cycle:
- Everything is quiet, and nothing happens.
- Someone voices up and asks for an update.
- JChan shows up, teases something, and promises something within the next few days.
The cycle repeats. Currently on cycle 3, since the initial deadline. I do see that part of these apply to the M65-A as well.
I'm not attacking on anyone. Just saying I disagree with part of the statement and why.
Edit: formatting.
Edit 2:
I bookmarked Jchan's post history page and just refresh that instead of checking this page over and over.
That's actually a good idea.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:50:26
I asked him, do you like driving the same Toyota Camry like everyone else? You gotta look into this car called Tesla 3. It was perhaps the greatest GB for a car ever.
Have a good day everyone. Been jamming to some New Found Glory at the office today.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:59:30
Currently, this thread is meant for m65a.
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:04:02
I am satisfied with how this GB is being run. Yes, the extra wait is not ideal, but I know what I signed up for. Keep on keeping on, jchan.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:04:26
I'm here for THE PICS
Why post a grainy phone picture when you can post a grainy graphics interchange format?
(https://giant.gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond.gif)
https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond (https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond)
Post by: imprevade on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:53:26
Post by: Aznboi on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:26:44
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:58:24
has the majority of the Friday shipment been received? I live relatively close to LA (central California) and my board's not here even after about a week and a half. :(
fedex arrived after hours, but they're coming tmr to pick it up
Also,
M65-A-077
M65-A-091
M65-A-0150
M65-A-0169
M65-A-0183
M65-A-0187
M65-A-0211
M65-A-0250
M65-A-0268
M65-A-0290
M65-A-0352
M65-A-0366
M65-A-0372
M65-A-0454
M65-A-0455
M65-A-0461
M65-A-0462
M65-A-0469
M65-A-0473
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:59:30
The fact that jchan didn't sort one of the shipping list days numerically? I didn't join this GB to have my lists not be sorted properly!
EDIT: jchan, thank you for returning back to form with the recent shipping list!
Post by: Aznboi on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:06:25
has the majority of the Friday shipment been received? I live relatively close to LA (central California) and my board's not here even after about a week and a half. :(
fedex arrived after hours, but they're coming tmr to pick it up
Also,
M65-A-077
M65-A-091
M65-A-0150
M65-A-0169
M65-A-0183
M65-A-0187
M65-A-0211
M65-A-0250
M65-A-0268
M65-A-0290
M65-A-0352
M65-A-0366
M65-A-0372
M65-A-0454
M65-A-0455
M65-A-0461
M65-A-0462
M65-A-0469
M65-A-0473
Sorry, let me rephrase. I meant that my board already shipped with the August 18th/19th "wave", yet I've seen people on this thread who live much further away with their boards from the same shipment.
Regardless, good to see that things are moving along.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:10:21
has the majority of the Friday shipment been received? I live relatively close to LA (central California) and my board's not here even after about a week and a half. :(
fedex arrived after hours, but they're coming tmr to pick it up
Also,
M65-A-077
M65-A-091
M65-A-0150
M65-A-0169
M65-A-0183
M65-A-0187
M65-A-0211
M65-A-0250
M65-A-0268
M65-A-0290
M65-A-0352
M65-A-0366
M65-A-0372
M65-A-0454
M65-A-0455
M65-A-0461
M65-A-0462
M65-A-0469
M65-A-0473
Sorry, let me rephrase. I meant that my board already shipped with the August 18th/19th "wave", yet I've seen people on this thread who live much further away with their boards from the same shipment.
Regardless, good to see that things are moving along.
can ya email me? I actually don't know your order number. support@keyclack.com
Also, something to take note of: shipping doesn't really matter based on distance. It's section based. I just packed someone's order from Oregon, but that will take 5 days to get to them, vs someone in Seattle, which says 3 days. It matters on where you live in that area, and how big the shipping infrastructure is there, or how remote you are from the big shipping depo.
Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:58:37
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JJYEpMKBYBUDS/giphy.gif)
See how quickly it takes to get to Vegas. I don't even have a keyset for it, yet, anyway...
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:06:51
I am a chosen one!Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/JJYEpMKBYBUDS/giphy.gif)
See how quickly it takes to get to Vegas. I don't even have a keyset for it, yet, anyway...
(https://i.imgflip.com/1mw06n.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:33:12
I am a chosen one!Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/JJYEpMKBYBUDS/giphy.gif)
See how quickly it takes to get to Vegas. I don't even have a keyset for it, yet, anyway...Show Image(https://i.imgflip.com/1mw06n.jpg)
:-*
Post by: robbles on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:34:09
I'm here for THE PICS
Why post a grainy phone picture when you can post a grainy graphics interchange format?Show Image(https://giant.gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond.gif)
https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond (https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond)
God I love that colorful butt.
Post by: msilvv on Tue, 29 August 2017, 23:08:13
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Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 30 August 2017, 00:23:23
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 30 August 2017, 12:04:55
Well **** me, still haven't shipped my 111 yet :(
Same here. Maybe today is the day for both of us though!
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 30 August 2017, 15:10:09
Yeah, hopefully. My family is starving;_>;Well **** me, still haven't shipped my 111 yet :(
Same here. Maybe today is the day for both of us though!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 31 August 2017, 07:06:15
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 31 August 2017, 08:50:19
Did anyone have problems with their nylon piece? Mine isn't flush and one of the side screw holes doesn't line upIt's pretty tight, did you try pressing a bit harder?
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 31 August 2017, 14:20:14
Did anyone have problems with their nylon piece? Mine isn't flush and one of the side screw holes doesn't line upIt's pretty tight, did you try pressing a bit harder?
Yep, one side is flush while the other isn't. Well, just the bottom screw isn't.
Post by: shengpizi on Fri, 01 September 2017, 04:26:18
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 01 September 2017, 04:41:53
Could I ask for a slot if anyone wanna refund? I'd only take Champagne or HydroBlue, better with Alu base.
All refunded orders go into retail inventory
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:02:45
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 01 September 2017, 09:05:51
Did anyone have problems with their nylon piece? Mine isn't flush and one of the side screw holes doesn't line up
They are tight, can confirm. Mine isn't 100% lined up it seems, but push harder. I pushed hard af, and it got lined up enough to get the two screws in. Hopefully works for ya mate.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:41:33
Did anyone have problems with their nylon piece? Mine isn't flush and one of the side screw holes doesn't line up
They are tight, can confirm. Mine isn't 100% lined up it seems, but push harder. I pushed hard af, and it got lined up enough to get the two screws in. Hopefully works for ya mate.
Got it fixed last night. Thanks dude
Post by: shengpizi on Fri, 01 September 2017, 20:11:12
Could I ask for a slot if anyone wanna refund? I'd only take Champagne or HydroBlue, better with Alu base.
All refunded orders go into retail inventory
Thx for the info!
Post by: therealmckellar on Sat, 02 September 2017, 11:23:39
Could I ask for a slot if anyone wanna refund? I'd only take Champagne or HydroBlue, better with Alu base.Some of us have asked. People would rather just take their refund than sell theirs for some bizarre reason
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Post by: Valaris on Sat, 02 September 2017, 14:35:45
Could I ask for a slot if anyone wanna refund? I'd only take Champagne or HydroBlue, better with Alu base.Some of us have asked. People would rather just take their refund than sell theirs for some bizarre reason
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Well the reason some people opted for the refund was they couldn't wait anymore/didn't want to wait/needed the money now. Getting a refund now=money now. Waiting till it ships, arrives, and then selling it would mean waiting potentially a while longer for the cash. And it's way too much of a pain in the ass for Jchan to deal with the logistics of people selling their slots.
Post by: therealmckellar on Sat, 02 September 2017, 15:12:58
I pay you now you forward me the board when it arrives.Could I ask for a slot if anyone wanna refund? I'd only take Champagne or HydroBlue, better with Alu base.Some of us have asked. People would rather just take their refund than sell theirs for some bizarre reason
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Well the reason some people opted for the refund was they couldn't wait anymore/didn't want to wait/needed the money now. Getting a refund now=money now. Waiting till it ships, arrives, and then selling it would mean waiting potentially a while longer for the cash. And it's way too much of a pain in the ass for Jchan to deal with the logistics of people selling their slots.
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Post by: Valaris on Sat, 02 September 2017, 15:31:29
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 02 September 2017, 15:59:50
But then you still gotta deal with the waiting. Much easier to just say screw it and get a refund. It's what I would do. But won't of course, I'd much rather have the keyboard.
But... waiting for what?
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 02 September 2017, 16:51:56
Jchan stay sane man. There are a lot of people who think you're awesome and really appreciate what you do. <3Waiting for the board to arrive and then send it to the person who bought it from you. It's an extra step and makes for a more complicated situation. Or they can get a refund and be done with it immediately.But then you still gotta deal with the waiting. Much easier to just say screw it and get a refund. It's what I would do. But won't of course, I'd much rather have the keyboard.
But... waiting for what?
Post by: panzermuffin on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:42:43
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 03 September 2017, 15:40:56
How likely is it that one can acquire a matte black one? I just love this design.
Ask when he announces the extras sale.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 04 September 2017, 11:53:47
In the meantime....can we get some more pics of boards, plz
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 05 September 2017, 00:29:06
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 05 September 2017, 07:40:40
come on #175! big money, no whammies!
FTFY
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 05 September 2017, 10:08:22
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 05 September 2017, 10:58:56
Is JChan still alive?
Overreaction much?
Post by: petrock on Tue, 05 September 2017, 11:09:29
Is JChan still alive?
Overreaction much?
Eh, I mean he hasn't posted in the muted thread in a week either. I don't think there is any fear of his death as he has posted in the Budapest thread, but asking if there has been any progress isn't unwarranted. Sure its not the most diplomatic wording, but its something.
I mean I sent him an email last week as my M65 was included in the shipment on August 3rd and there has been no update to the Fedex tracking. I haven't gotten a response either and to be honest I am worried that Fedex lost it somewhere between Jchan and Fedex in Cali.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 05 September 2017, 11:14:22
Is JChan still alive?
Overreaction much?
Eh, I mean he hasn't posted in the muted thread in a week either. I don't think there is any fear of his death as he has posted in the Budapest thread, but asking if there has been any progress isn't unwarranted. Sure its not the most diplomatic wording, but its something.
I mean I sent him an email last week as my M65 was included in the shipment on August 3rd and there has been no update to the Fedex tracking. I haven't gotten a response either and to be honest I am worried that Fedex lost it somewhere between Jchan and Fedex in Cali.
It was more just an exaggeration. Not actually asking if he's dead.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:27:22
Post by: petrock on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:42:34
Life should come first 100% of the time.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:45:53
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 05 September 2017, 13:17:25
Just do us a favor and ask for a refund, I'm tired of seeing the public *****ing and moaning. Either that or if someone can PM me a way to ignore all posts from a certain user that would be great. Its complaining like this that are making R2 not happen and potentially driving the organizers of group buys to say "f it" and move to things like MassDrop
Didn't mean to start some firestorm in here but oh well.
Post by: petrock on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:00:48
As I wrote in my email last week, keep doing what your doing. We know your very busy. I know that you are working very hard.
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 05 September 2017, 15:09:49
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/af66978d028abd891940ec68fcb29738/tumblr_otbflvs7vi1rga96ao3_500.gif)Just do us a favor and ask for a refund, I'm tired of seeing the public *****ing and moaning. Either that or if someone can PM me a way to ignore all posts from a certain user that would be great. Its complaining like this that are making R2 not happen and potentially driving the organizers of group buys to say "f it" and move to things like MassDrop
Didn't mean to start some firestorm in here but oh well.
Post by: Gamecat on Tue, 05 September 2017, 20:01:24
https://github.com/Gam3cat/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/gam3cat (https://github.com/Gam3cat/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/gam3cat)
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 06 September 2017, 02:05:36
Post by: imprevade on Wed, 06 September 2017, 10:25:00
Here's what I have so far for QMK keymap (untested, but most of it works on the M10A), interested to see other keymaps for ideas to steal :)
https://github.com/Gam3cat/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/gam3cat (https://github.com/Gam3cat/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/gam3cat)
I've been using this layout for a couple weeks. (https://github.com/toddhersey/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/imprevade)
Post by: Gamecat on Wed, 06 September 2017, 20:52:38
I've been using this layout for a couple weeks. (https://github.com/toddhersey/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/keymaps/imprevade)
Awesome, the tapdance stuff looks cool, never had a QMK board and didn't realize that was possible :)
Post by: Fitzpa on Thu, 07 September 2017, 12:03:54
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 07 September 2017, 12:14:24
What does the tap dancing function do?
Press button once: does thingX
Doubletap button: does thingY
Tripletap button: does thingZ
and so on
Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 07 September 2017, 13:19:05
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 07 September 2017, 13:21:02
Sigh, i didn't look to see it needed a signature for delivery... will pick up tomorrow now. So close, yet so far away.
Were you part of last tuesday's shipment?
Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 07 September 2017, 13:21:43
YesSigh, i didn't look to see it needed a signature for delivery... will pick up tomorrow now. So close, yet so far away.
Were you part of last tuesday's shipment?
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Post by: Fitzpa on Thu, 07 September 2017, 13:55:00
What does the tap dancing function do?
Press button once: does thingX
Doubletap button: does thingY
Tripletap button: does thingZ
and so on
That's so cool! Can't wait to get my kb.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:05:07
Sigh, i didn't look to see it needed a signature for delivery... will pick up tomorrow now. So close, yet so far away.
That's a huge bummer. I'd probably just throw in the towel for the rest of the day if that happened to me.
Post by: Potatoes on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:33:50
forgot to post the pics... :blank: Obviously not the m65. Current/future old driver...
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:34:47
Sigh, i didn't look to see it needed a signature for delivery... will pick up tomorrow now. So close, yet so far away.
That's a huge bummer. I'd probably just throw in the towel for the rest of the day if that happened to me.
Does the tracking info denote if a signature is required? I didn't see anything saying one is needed on mine.
Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:36:38
Sigh, i didn't look to see it needed a signature for delivery... will pick up tomorrow now. So close, yet so far away.
That's a huge bummer. I'd probably just throw in the towel for the rest of the day if that happened to me.
Does the tracking info denote if a signature is required? I didn't see anything saying one is needed on mine.
Under the features section is says Signature Confirmation TM
Post by: robbles on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:46:27
Got mine in the mail today! I'll take my crappy pictures later. The mat is beautiful. Will look better against the birch once I get my desk made in a couple weeks. Hopefully I can keep it clean...
forgot to post the pics... :blank: Obviously not the m65. Current/future old driver...
YES! All of the pics!
Post by: Aznboi on Thu, 07 September 2017, 20:49:35
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Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 07 September 2017, 23:29:53
Hmm, so I have to move at the end of the month... Is it possible to change my delivery address?
Yes, support@keyclack.com for such cases.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 08 September 2017, 06:30:17
Hmm, so I have to move at the end of the month... Is it possible to change my delivery address?
I just moved a couple weeks ago, I emailed jchan and he updated my order
Post by: shantanujoshi on Fri, 08 September 2017, 13:52:42
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 08 September 2017, 13:58:13
That awkward moment when your order number isn't in the OG post on which day it'll ship... or in any of the recent shipping posts...
That's like 70% of the people in here. Welcome.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 14:08:29
That awkward moment when your order number isn't in the OG post on which day it'll ship... or in any of the recent shipping posts...
That awkward moment when you realize waiting requires patience.
Post by: davisthegreat on Fri, 08 September 2017, 16:19:08
THANK YOU! Just got mine, packaging looks great! haven't even opened it yet but this looks great. I have been in the hobby since november and this has been one of the better experiences with a GB.
just wanted to say thank you for the work.
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 08 September 2017, 18:43:04
DEAR JCHAN
THANK YOU! Just got mine, packaging looks great! haven't even opened it yet but this looks great. I have been in the hobby since november and this has been one of the better experiences with a GB.
just wanted to say thank you for the work.
I got mine today too. It looks great! Everything was packaged really well. When you see the level of packaging, you will understand how QC could take a while; everything was wrapped very well and secured in the box tightly. I'm prepping to build mine now!
Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 08 September 2017, 20:04:52
That awkward moment when your order number isn't in the OG post on which day it'll ship... or in any of the recent shipping posts...
That awkward moment when you realize waiting requires patience.
I am selfish and impatient, but I'm trying to remember that jchan is just a dude. I hope that people like me haven't put him off from the keyboard hobby entirely. It'd be real shame if he invested in his passion and got crushed for it.
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 08 September 2017, 21:03:24
DEAR JCHAN
THANK YOU! Just got mine, packaging looks great! haven't even opened it yet but this looks great. I have been in the hobby since november and this has been one of the better experiences with a GB.
just wanted to say thank you for the work.
I got mine today too. It looks great! Everything was packaged really well. When you see the level of packaging, you will understand how QC could take a while; everything was wrapped very well and secured in the box tightly. I'm prepping to build mine now!
I just got mine put together, and it's amazing. I really love this thing! Thank you JChan and Rama for making this GB possible.
67g Zealios (and one MX Lock switch for Caps Lock [I think I'll have to mess with the programming for it to function as expected though])
Zeal stabs
Maxkeys SA Orange on Dolch
Full pic album: http://imgur.com/a/LOR2z
(I had forgotten to put the side screws in when I took this picture. Oops.)
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Post by: jjwax on Fri, 08 September 2017, 23:30:33
DEAR JCHAN
THANK YOU! Just got mine, packaging looks great! haven't even opened it yet but this looks great. I have been in the hobby since november and this has been one of the better experiences with a GB.
just wanted to say thank you for the work.
I got mine today too. It looks great! Everything was packaged really well. When you see the level of packaging, you will understand how QC could take a while; everything was wrapped very well and secured in the box tightly. I'm prepping to build mine now!
I just got mine put together, and it's amazing. I really love this thing! Thank you JChan and Rama for making this GB possible.
67g Zealios (and one MX Lock switch for Caps Lock [I think I'll have to mess with the programming for it to function as expected though])
Zeal stabs
Maxkeys SA Orange on Dolch
Full pic album: http://imgur.com/a/LOR2z
(I had forgotten to put the side screws in when I took this picture. Oops.)
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That looks amazing! I can't wait to get mine!
Post by: delivery on Sat, 09 September 2017, 08:29:32
Post by: Zanduby on Sat, 09 September 2017, 18:40:06
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:34:12
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1VA6Dnt.jpg)
That Rama wave is really icing on the cake! Job well done sir! :thumb:
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:50:57
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I put my E8-v1 in the photo too. You like?
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 09 September 2017, 20:28:22
Here mine:
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I put my E8-v1 in the photo too. You like?
Super Limited Edition!? Mirin that clean finish! :p
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 09 September 2017, 22:01:01
Here mine:
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I put my E8-v1 in the photo too. You like?
Haha, nice one!
Don't worry about the M65-A though. JChan has them in hand and is working on getting them out, so you know you'll be getting this one, just with a little delay. The E8-v1 is a little more doubtful.
Post by: Merloobi on Sun, 10 September 2017, 15:49:06
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 16:19:29
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Post by: Valaris on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:18:18
Jchan: Let me know if you want me to remove this if you're rather address it yourself or whatever.
Post by: wodan on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:38:27
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:42:12
Can we please get a statement what this means for the shipping of the remaining M-65s?
I think it means it's not a priority right now, comparatively, and progress will be slow with less information than some may like
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:22:07
Can we please get a statement what this means for the shipping of the remaining M-65s?This.
Well, I feel for Jchan. He is going through a lot atm.
On the other hand, a lot of us put considerable amount of money into this GB which ended in january 2017. There is a lot of us who are still waiting for our boards, paypal refund deadline of 180 days is long over too.
We rightfully expect Jchan to stay professional and chime in on the situation. I really don't want another Ivan scenario to happen to be honest. But atm it looks like we won't see our boards and/or money anytime soon...
Post by: panzermuffin on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:41:26
Can we please get a statement what this means for the shipping of the remaining M-65s?This.
Well, I feel for Jchan. He is going through a lot atm.
On the other hand, a lot of us put considerable amount of money into this GB which ended in january 2017. There is a lot of us who are still waiting for our boards, paypal refund deadline of 180 days is long over too.
We rightfully expect Jchan to stay professional and chime in on the situation. I really don't want another Ivan scenario to happen to be honest. But atm it looks like we won't see our boards and/or money anytime soon...
One of his beloved ones has brain cancer. Do you comprehend this? Who the F cares about keyboards when someone tells you something like this? "Hey, a relative has braincancer" "Yeah k, where's the toilet?"
Have some integrity and at least wait some time before you ask such a tactless question. Jesus Christ.
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:48:23
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:53:40
Can we please get a statement what this means for the shipping of the remaining M-65s?This.
Well, I feel for Jchan. He is going through a lot atm.
On the other hand, a lot of us put considerable amount of money into this GB which ended in january 2017. There is a lot of us who are still waiting for our boards, paypal refund deadline of 180 days is long over too.
We rightfully expect Jchan to stay professional and chime in on the situation. I really don't want another Ivan scenario to happen to be honest. But atm it looks like we won't see our boards and/or money anytime soon...
if you'd like a refund, just message support@keyclack.com ; I can process them this week, thanks
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:57:08
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:58:35
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:03:57
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
I don't need JChan to do anything, I will PayPal anyone for their slot, they can just update the shipping address
Post by: wodan on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:04:36
if you'd like a refund, just message support@keyclack.com ; I can process them this week, thanks
I'm personally not interested in a refund but an outlook on how you plan to finish this GB under the current circumstances. I understand you are taking a time out for personal reasons and just like to get an idea what we can expect from this.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:09:51
if you'd like a refund, just message support@keyclack.com ; I can process them this week, thanks
I'm personally not interested in a refund but an outlook on how you plan to finish this GB under the current circumstances. I understand you are taking a time out for personal reasons and just like to get an idea what we can expect from this.
I think he is giving you the only expectation he can right now, he can promise a timely refund and nothing more than that. I think the unwritten expectation is that you will get your board, but you need to read between the lines and see that he is also saying there is no news, no time frame, no further expectations he can set as he has bigger, more important things on his mind right now. Completely understandably so.
The community is going to alienate him if they don't respect the trauma he is going through. It's disrespectful
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:15:39
if you'd like a refund, just message support@keyclack.com ; I can process them this week, thanks
I'm personally not interested in a refund but an outlook on how you plan to finish this GB under the current circumstances. I understand you are taking a time out for personal reasons and just like to get an idea what we can expect from this.
...
I'm not in this buy.
But I have dealt with people extremely close to me diagnosed with cancer. The only thing I can say is please stop talking (not a rude please, an actual pleading please). If Jchan wants to expound he will. If he's too busy to respond to Wodan, then some redditor will say 'he left dead_pixel_design's word to stand, which means M65s are no longer shipping' which translates to another ****storm for him to deal with.
Just stop putting words in his mouth. And stop adding administrative work for him to do that he hasn't signed up for at the moment. Don't take anyone else's order over.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:39:08
if you'd like a refund, just message support@keyclack.com ; I can process them this week, thanks
I'm personally not interested in a refund but an outlook on how you plan to finish this GB under the current circumstances. I understand you are taking a time out for personal reasons and just like to get an idea what we can expect from this.
I think you get two choices right now -
1. wait - Might be weeks, might be months. Probably won't be years but who knows. You probably won't get much information in the interim.
2. Get a full refund, which jchan has said he'll process timely - which is more than he needs to offer right now, and should assuage any concerns about whether he will (ultimately) fulfill the orders.
I know you want the board (so do I), but I think if jchan had, even a ballpark of a timeline, he would have given it.
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:44:43
I think you get two choices right now -
1. wait - Might be weeks, might be months. Probably won't be years but who knows. You probably won't get much information in the interim.
2. Get a full refund, which jchan has said he'll process timely - which is more than he needs to offer right now, and should assuage any concerns about whether he will (ultimately) fulfill the orders.
I know you want the board (so do I), but I think if jchan had, even a ballpark of a timeline, he would have given it.
This sums it up, I think. He gave a timeline before, and people *****ed about it. So I understand in times of uncertainty, after getting burned once for trying to give something, why he'd not set himself up for that again. A lack of understanding by a few is the reason we can't have nice things.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:53:57
No doubt that life comes first. The only thing we have of actual value is each other and our experiences. Keyboards don't fit in that picture. Money doesn't fit in that picture. Business doesn't fit in the picture.
When the time comes, jchan will be back. But everyone is different. Especially because this is someone very close to jchan, and jchan is a young adult. (well, in my aged eyes he is). I've lost several close friends/family members from cancer and heart attacks over the past years. It never gets easy... but you do learn more of what to expect and how to deal. But your first few... yeah, it's world-rocking.
Oh, and jchan if you read this... the mental issues/short term memory loss. Holy ****, dude. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. This is something terrible to deal with. It's maddening. I swear, if you've ever been with someone in this condition... it can make you lose your mind. It's aweful. It will come to pass. It really will.
Post by: sixdeuces on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:07:27
Hell, if I were in a position to do it, I'd offer to come help him knock it all out. Surely that would be a huge burden lifted off his back.
Make no mistake... the M65 is a huge investment for me (most of us, I'm sure), but I'm going to keep the faith, wish Jchan and his family the best, and hold the line.
Jchan, keep your chin up, buddy. Put your family first and do what you can when you're in a better place. We'll be here when you get back.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:17:56
There's always so much talk of "community"... now's the time to show it's really there.
Hell, if I were in a position to do it, I'd offer to come help him knock it all out. Surely that would be a huge burden lifted off his back.
Feeling the same. Wish there was anything else I could do besides just wish him well.
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:27:35
Mind you this is barely more than speculation on my part based on what I've read.
Post by: Aesomatica on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:36:43
The side that matters the most to anyone is family and their health. Ultimately, that is what we will remember, that is what we need to make room for.
If you need to take awhile to get back to hobbies and such, please do so.
I don't think we should stop posting in here. I think we should post words of support and wishes of good health. To let this guy, who I've never met, know that we want him to take whatever time he needs to ensure he is reconciled with his home life before returning to hobbies/business. Joseph is obviously still checking in on us, so let's let him know we care.
Ultimately, the keyboard is just a thing. People are what matter, not things.
I'm still very excited for the project, and would love to see it completed, after everything else is good to go.
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:56:02
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:32:50
I totally get JChan, that he needs to take time to process everything and just be around loved ones more now, in this difficult time. I wish him all the best and totally understand the delays there have been so far. I'm assuming the added stress of having unshipped inventory and nagging customers is something he could really miss right now as well. I hope to see a post over the next couple of weeks "X is helping with/taking over shipping", no doubt there's people in JChan's network that can help out.
He's already hired someone. They worked on GMK Muted first, and hopefully will be moving on to helping with the M65-A, as that's a more intensive shipping and QC process.
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:37:17
I know my opinion probably doesn't mean as much since I've already received my keyboard, but let me tell everyone that it is worth the wait. It is a really solid, well built, well packaged, well designed product. JChan and Rama did an absolute bang up job on this.
The important thing for JChan's customers to remember is that he has a good track record and he has the products in hand. You WILL get your keyboard. It's just a matter of shipping them out. I sincerely believe you have no reason to worry; it's just taking a little longer than expected.
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:51:46
A post from JChan giving a lot more information that I think he should have had to.
Post by: therealmckellar on Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:15:37
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.I agree, as I've stated before, there's a lot of us who will
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Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:23:00
Someone else correct me if I'm wrong but I think jchan said he wasn't doing order transfers anymore since it was becoming too complicated.Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.I agree, as I've stated before, there's a lot of us who will
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Post by: cooperred on Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:28:27
Someone else correct me if I'm wrong but I think jchan said he wasn't doing order transfers anymore since it was becoming too complicated.Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.I agree, as I've stated before, there's a lot of us who will
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You're right. Any refunds/extras goes into the retail sale at the end of the GB. Also if jchan is having personal issues and can't ship the remaining keyboards out, how do you guys think he's going to deal with order transfers?
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:56:41
I've lost a few people to cancer during my short time on this earth: a good friend a few years ago, of which I spent a lot of time with during his last days in the hospital, and the only girl I've ever truly been in love with. From the very ****ing bottom of my heart I have but a glimpse of what you are going through, but I wish you and all involved in your personal life nothing but the absolute ****ing best.
I will wait as long as you need me and I am VERY sure that a LOT of us will feel the same way.
Joseph Chan, we ****ing love you.
Post by: obviouslygene on Tue, 12 September 2017, 02:08:36
But I plead for you guys to be more patient, with Jchan's track record I believe you guys have nothing to worry about (just the delay).
I just lost my dad to prostate cancer 3 weeks ago. He fought hard for 12 long years and it never really hit home till the last 3 weeks where he caught a cold and that did him in.
I hope you guys understand how hard it is to lose someone that close to you and till now I still cannot believe my dad is gone.
I believe what Jchan needs now is our understanding and time to be with his loved one.
When they're gone, nothing can be done to bring them back.
Your M65-A is just waiting to be QCed and shipped out.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 12 September 2017, 03:30:33
I just lost my dad to prostate cancer 3 weeks ago.
I'm so sorry.
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 12 September 2017, 07:05:36
I know most of you guys have been waiting for your M65-A, I am not in a position to feel what you guys have felt as I was lucky to receive it on the 3rd day of the shipment.
But I plead for you guys to be more patient, with Jchan's track record I believe you guys have nothing to worry about (just the delay).
I just lost my dad to prostate cancer 3 weeks ago. He fought hard for 12 long years and it never really hit home till the last 3 weeks where he caught a cold and that did him in.
I hope you guys understand how hard it is to lose someone that close to you and till now I still cannot believe my dad is gone.
I believe what Jchan needs now is our understanding and time to be with his loved one.
When they're gone, nothing can be done to bring them back.
Your M65-A is just waiting to be QCed and shipped out.
Sorry to hear man. I can sympathize as someone really close.to me has been in the hospital for the past 2 months. Fell from the stairs fractured her skull so they had to remove that part to ease the pressure off the brain. She cannot move her right side of her body and cannot speak. It is really hard.
Post by: Crossfire on Tue, 12 September 2017, 09:54:12
We all have our stories, a lot of good and also a lot of bad ones, filled with grief and sadness.
We must be rational and compasionate. But everyone should be responsible for their actions - in private and in business life.
Considering all the facts, Jchan is willing to refund us even after 180 days of PP refund policy which is a nice gesture and I'm happy to accept it.
That's why I'm backing out of this GB.
Post by: consolelog on Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:22:29
Given the current circumstances, asking for updates and hoping shipping will start up again isn't helping our anxiousness, or Joseph's mental health. As far as we know, Joseph did hire someone but we have no idea if they deal with support or will get to the M65-as.
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I think the best thing for both parties is to set up some realistic expectations. Hopefully this can clear the air a bit.
Before jumping to any conclusions, hopefully Joseph can chime in on what the future of M65-a shipment will be, and if his new hire is still around and working towards shipping them. Some updates about that would be most appreciated.
If no reliable forward progress is being made at this time, I think it would be better if we had an expectation of when shipment would start again in x months, rather than us being lost in the dark week by week. That way we wouldn't constantly be asking for updates, and Joseph can have time to recover. It would probably be easier logistically (shipment changes, refunds, etc). Note that theres always the refund option.
Just putting in my logical 2cents. I really want this keyboard, but not sure if its worth all the unnecessary drama and anticipation. Personally I'd prefer checking back in a couple months, rather than checking every other day for updates.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:38:24
the new hire is charge of:
- Support (emails to support@keyclack.com NOT jchan@keyclack.com)
- Helping organizing / maintaining the office
- Shipping Store / Newly incoming things (muted, 1965 up and coming)
- QC soon.
The M65A is a little too complex at this stage of training. It's only been a little over a week since I've worked with him.
I'll be nailing away at some m65a this week once I have the chance. Hopefully we'll see GMK Muted pics up soon from people.
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I've responded to like 95% of emails ; and sent refunds to those of you who have asked. 5 more units available later, so that's good news.
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thanks for all the understanding, and support everyone. I really appreciate it.
If you'd like to contribute towards cancer research, one of the best facilities is City of Hope in Southern California. You can donate here - https://www.cityofhope.org/giving
It's fascinating how insane modern medicine is once you think about it. It's truly a gift to live in the 21st century.
cheers,
joseph
Post by: kmba on Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:47:44
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 12 September 2017, 16:03:16
Hi,
the new hire is charge of:
- Support (emails to support@keyclack.com NOT jchan@keyclack.com)
- Helping organizing / maintaining the office
- Shipping Store / Newly incoming things (muted, 1965 up and coming)
- QC soon.
The M65A is a little too complex at this stage of training. It's only been a little over a week since I've worked with him.
I'll be nailing away at some m65a this week once I have the chance. Hopefully we'll see GMK Muted pics up soon from people.
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I've responded to like 95% of emails ; and sent refunds to those of you who have asked. 5 more units available later, so that's good news.
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thanks for all the understanding, and support everyone. I really appreciate it.
If you'd like to contribute towards cancer research, one of the best facilities is City of Hope in Southern California. You can donate here - https://www.cityofhope.org/giving
It's fascinating how insane modern medicine is once you think about it. It's truly a gift to live in the 21st century.
cheers,
joseph
The update is much appreciated - but take care of yourself, we can wait!
Post by: cooperred on Tue, 12 September 2017, 18:35:16
Just wanted to chime in here with some advice. I, like most have not received my keyboard. I am anxiously awaiting it, checking this thread constantly for updates.
Given the current circumstances, asking for updates and hoping shipping will start up again isn't helping our anxiousness, or Joseph's mental health. As far as we know, Joseph did hire someone but we have no idea if they deal with support or will get to the M65-as.
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I think the best thing for both parties is to set up some realistic expectations. Hopefully this can clear the air a bit.
Before jumping to any conclusions, hopefully Joseph can chime in on what the future of M65-a shipment will be, and if his new hire is still around and working towards shipping them. Some updates about that would be most appreciated.
If no reliable forward progress is being made at this time, I think it would be better if we had an expectation of when shipment would start again in x months, rather than us being lost in the dark week by week. That way we wouldn't constantly be asking for updates, and Joseph can have time to recover. It would probably be easier logistically (shipment changes, refunds, etc). Note that theres always the refund option.
Just putting in my logical 2cents. I really want this keyboard, but not sure if its worth all the unnecessary drama and anticipation. Personally I'd prefer checking back in a couple months, rather than checking every other day for updates.
Agreed. Even if the update was "shipping will start in 6 months at a rate of 5 per month," I'd rather have that than no estimated timeline at all. I realize what jchan is going through, so I'm not going to complain about the shipping time, but I don't want to be left in the dark for months/years/who knows how long.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 12 September 2017, 21:02:33
Just wanted to chime in here with some advice. I, like most have not received my keyboard. I am anxiously awaiting it, checking this thread constantly for updates.
Given the current circumstances, asking for updates and hoping shipping will start up again isn't helping our anxiousness, or Joseph's mental health. As far as we know, Joseph did hire someone but we have no idea if they deal with support or will get to the M65-as.
----
I think the best thing for both parties is to set up some realistic expectations. Hopefully this can clear the air a bit.
Before jumping to any conclusions, hopefully Joseph can chime in on what the future of M65-a shipment will be, and if his new hire is still around and working towards shipping them. Some updates about that would be most appreciated.
If no reliable forward progress is being made at this time, I think it would be better if we had an expectation of when shipment would start again in x months, rather than us being lost in the dark week by week. That way we wouldn't constantly be asking for updates, and Joseph can have time to recover. It would probably be easier logistically (shipment changes, refunds, etc). Note that theres always the refund option.
Just putting in my logical 2cents. I really want this keyboard, but not sure if its worth all the unnecessary drama and anticipation. Personally I'd prefer checking back in a couple months, rather than checking every other day for updates.
Agreed. Even if the update was "shipping will start in 6 months at a rate of 5 per month," I'd rather have that than no estimated timeline at all. I realize what jchan is going through, so I'm not going to complain about the shipping time, but I don't want to be left in the dark for months/years/who knows how long.
He did that before, and missed it. And people complained.
Post by: cooperred on Wed, 13 September 2017, 00:51:28
Just wanted to chime in here with some advice. I, like most have not received my keyboard. I am anxiously awaiting it, checking this thread constantly for updates.
Given the current circumstances, asking for updates and hoping shipping will start up again isn't helping our anxiousness, or Joseph's mental health. As far as we know, Joseph did hire someone but we have no idea if they deal with support or will get to the M65-as.
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I think the best thing for both parties is to set up some realistic expectations. Hopefully this can clear the air a bit.
Before jumping to any conclusions, hopefully Joseph can chime in on what the future of M65-a shipment will be, and if his new hire is still around and working towards shipping them. Some updates about that would be most appreciated.
If no reliable forward progress is being made at this time, I think it would be better if we had an expectation of when shipment would start again in x months, rather than us being lost in the dark week by week. That way we wouldn't constantly be asking for updates, and Joseph can have time to recover. It would probably be easier logistically (shipment changes, refunds, etc). Note that theres always the refund option.
Just putting in my logical 2cents. I really want this keyboard, but not sure if its worth all the unnecessary drama and anticipation. Personally I'd prefer checking back in a couple months, rather than checking every other day for updates.
Agreed. Even if the update was "shipping will start in 6 months at a rate of 5 per month," I'd rather have that than no estimated timeline at all. I realize what jchan is going through, so I'm not going to complain about the shipping time, but I don't want to be left in the dark for months/years/who knows how long.
He did that before, and missed it. And people complained.
So give a more generous estimate. I don't think it's wrong to expect more than 2 choices, 'refund' or 'be patient', for this.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 13 September 2017, 01:22:56
So give a more generous estimate. I don't think it's wrong to expect more than 2 choices, 'refund' or 'be patient', for this.
I think it is wrong to expect anything from someone who is going through what Jchan is going through.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 13 September 2017, 06:51:41
Ding Ding Ding. He's given viable choices. Choose one. He doesn't know when his situation will change, so anything he says will just be him saying something to placate the audience. Then the less empathetic members of the community will hold that against him.So give a more generous estimate. I don't think it's wrong to expect more than 2 choices, 'refund' or 'be patient', for this.
I think it is wrong to expect anything from someone who is going through what Jchan is going through.
Wait, knowing that you will get the product, or cut bait.
Post by: yuppie on Wed, 13 September 2017, 20:52:34
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 14 September 2017, 06:22:32
Getting an update isn’t gonna suddenly cause your m65 to ship.
Post by: petrock on Thu, 14 September 2017, 07:29:53
Just a post once a week saying, "Sorry everyone, still busy" or "Hey everyone, I think I will be able to get some boards out"
Your right that it won't get the boards out any faster, but it will give everyone the impression to everyone who is complaining that their keyboards haven't been forgotten, that work is still being done, and a lot of the time, that is all anyone needs.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 14 September 2017, 07:35:09
Honestly, I think that something like that is the best idea because silence is worse than the waiting. Just like waiting for an update to an app or game, saying "hey we are aware there is an issue/bug and we are working to fix the problem ASAP"
Just a post once a week saying, "Sorry everyone, still busy" or "Hey everyone, I think I will be able to get some boards out"
Your right that it won't get the boards out any faster, but it will give everyone the impression to everyone who is complaining that their keyboards haven't been forgotten, that work is still being done, and a lot of the time, that is all anyone needs.
People basically just want an animated loading circle instead of the program just freezing till its done with the task.
I don't mind it much tho, but that's because I have plenty of other stuff incoming to keep me busy. It'll get here some day
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 14 September 2017, 09:13:02
Post by: sixdeuces on Thu, 14 September 2017, 09:37:38
Post by: CamRank1 on Thu, 14 September 2017, 09:45:32
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 14 September 2017, 15:26:12
My coworker received his RAMA M65 last week, after typing on it, the slant is just too much for me... That being said, I am looking for someone with a Nightfox Order that would like to trade
The slant is a bit steep, but I have SA keycaps on mine. I think it would feel fine with GMK or DSA.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 14 September 2017, 16:40:13
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 14 September 2017, 16:55:20
I thought the case has an 8* tilt.. that's not very steep.
It is indeed 8 degrees, I do not have any problems with mine at all, it's quite a comfortable keyboard to type on I've found.
Post by: r4wromg on Fri, 15 September 2017, 02:24:30
Just recently built up my M65-A and unfortunately having some problems. Whenever I press Backspace, the \ | key also registers (the reverse is also true - when I press \ |, backspace registers).
This happens for a few other keys in the same vicinity as well: R shift and up arrow and with ] and \ |.
Luckily, I was able to take everything apart rather easily as I'm currently using hot swap sockets in my M65. I'm pretty certain these sockets are not the cause of the issue as I've used these sockets in my Minivan and Roadkit and have 0 problems. I used extremely little solder as well (just enough to get the sockets to stay), so I don't think that's the issue either.
Here's a picture of my PCB: https://imgur.com/a/yBZbb. It looks a little wonky cause I had to take it as a panorama to get close enough to see the soldering job.
I don't believe this is a firmware issue either. Even though it's my first time using QMK and creating my own QMK keymap, the same issue also happens when I flash the default keymap.
Any ideas? Any help is appreciated!
Post by: ambalek on Fri, 15 September 2017, 04:25:32
Posted this to r/mk, but figured I may as well post here as well. Running into some issues with my board...
Just recently built up my M65-A and unfortunately having some problems. Whenever I press Backspace, the \ | key also registers (the reverse is also true - when I press \ |, backspace registers).
This happens for a few other keys in the same vicinity as well: R shift and up arrow and with ] and \ |.
Luckily, I was able to take everything apart rather easily as I'm currently using hot swap sockets in my M65. I'm pretty certain these sockets are not the cause of the issue as I've used these sockets in my Minivan and Roadkit and have 0 problems. I used extremely little solder as well (just enough to get the sockets to stay), so I don't think that's the issue either.
Here's a picture of my PCB: https://imgur.com/a/yBZbb. It looks a little wonky cause I had to take it as a panorama to get close enough to see the soldering job.
I don't believe this is a firmware issue either. Even though it's my first time using QMK and creating my own QMK keymap, the same issue also happens when I flash the default keymap.
Any ideas? Any help is appreciated!
I have a few suggestions:
1. Test the PCB without any switches/stabilisers by shorting where the switch pins go to see if you still get both keys pressed
2. Are you using screw-in stabilisers? I've had this behaviour with some PCBs and screw in stabs, the screws short lines in the PCB (some PCBs are multilayer, they're more prone to this)
3. Check the solder around diodes to make sure nothing is shorted
4. Test the diodes with a multimeter in the affected area
5. Make sure the firmware is set up right
Someone that's better at electronics probably has more advice, but these are the steps that have worked for me with other builds.
Post by: r4wromg on Fri, 15 September 2017, 08:26:18
Posted this to r/mk, but figured I may as well post here as well. Running into some issues with my board...
Just recently built up my M65-A and unfortunately having some problems. Whenever I press Backspace, the \ | key also registers (the reverse is also true - when I press \ |, backspace registers).
This happens for a few other keys in the same vicinity as well: R shift and up arrow and with ] and \ |.
Luckily, I was able to take everything apart rather easily as I'm currently using hot swap sockets in my M65. I'm pretty certain these sockets are not the cause of the issue as I've used these sockets in my Minivan and Roadkit and have 0 problems. I used extremely little solder as well (just enough to get the sockets to stay), so I don't think that's the issue either.
Here's a picture of my PCB: https://imgur.com/a/yBZbb. It looks a little wonky cause I had to take it as a panorama to get close enough to see the soldering job.
I don't believe this is a firmware issue either. Even though it's my first time using QMK and creating my own QMK keymap, the same issue also happens when I flash the default keymap.
Any ideas? Any help is appreciated!
I have a few suggestions:
1. Test the PCB without any switches/stabilisers by shorting where the switch pins go to see if you still get both keys pressed
2. Are you using screw-in stabilisers? I've had this behaviour with some PCBs and screw in stabs, the screws short lines in the PCB (some PCBs are multilayer, they're more prone to this)
3. Check the solder around diodes to make sure nothing is shorted
4. Test the diodes with a multimeter in the affected area
5. Make sure the firmware is set up right
Someone that's better at electronics probably has more advice, but these are the steps that have worked for me with other builds.
I took everything apart again and get the same result while shorting the switch pins with a paperclip. This occurs without stabilizers as well. I am pretty certain this isn't due to my soldering job, as I've used an incredibly minimal amount of solder and this isn't my first build. The error still occurs no matter what QMK keymap I flash also. I'll have to test the diodes when I get a chance. Thanks!
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 15 September 2017, 09:11:32
edit: I think it's 1.75u
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 15 September 2017, 09:45:54
Hmm I think I ****ed up my planning. Can someone who built theirs already confirm the key size for the right shift key?
edit: I think it's 1.75u
You can technically also use the standard 2.75u one, but I assume you're going for the short one, which is 1.75u indeed
(https://i.imgur.com/kqb4ySi.png)
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 15 September 2017, 09:59:39
Thanks for the confirmation though!
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:09:10
Going for the standard 2.75 would mean I forfeit either up arrow or pg down so I'll stick to the smaller one. But it's ok. I just realized the Danger Zone TKL set I bought for this has 2 1.75 caps lock. One regular and one with the "scoop" or whatever it's called so I'll just use one of those are right shift. I doubt I'll be able to find someone willing to sell a single 1.75u right shift key anyway.
Thanks for the confirmation though!
The 'scoop' is called stepped, and stepped capslock keys have an off-centered stem, you'd have to solder the capslock key accordingly and use the stepped key there, and the regular one as shift.
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:12:17
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:14:21
Going for the standard 2.75 would mean I forfeit either up arrow or pg down so I'll stick to the smaller one. But it's ok. I just realized the Danger Zone TKL set I bought for this has 2 1.75 caps lock. One regular and one with the "scoop" or whatever it's called so I'll just use one of those are right shift. I doubt I'll be able to find someone willing to sell a single 1.75u right shift key anyway.
Thanks for the confirmation though!
Those might have shown up in grab bags. You might have luck on MM.
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 15 September 2017, 10:14:55
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 15 September 2017, 21:52:36
Thanks!
Post by: kustom3 on Fri, 15 September 2017, 22:20:23
Anyone can help a noobie with programming the qmk MB? Or can point me in the right direction?
Thanks!
https://docs.qmk.fm would be a good place to start.
Also here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65)'s some M65-A specific stuff to save you some time.
Post by: therealmckellar on Sun, 17 September 2017, 16:50:16
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 17 September 2017, 17:23:15
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.
He is actively working with jchan. And he said that keyclack is not transferring slots. If you're willing to do it without a safety net- that's on you. There was a recent incident with something like that where there was a chargeback involved. If you want to take that risk, that's on you. But he's talking what jchan/keyclack will do, and as he's working with them on the business side, and trying to help out jchan in his current situation, it was totally appropriate for him to reply.
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 17 September 2017, 17:37:32
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.
I'm sorry, but "post your purchase for people to take over for you." sounds to me like a transfer of slot. Obviously what you do after shipping is all up to you.
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 17 September 2017, 19:21:14
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.Your request for a trade/sale is actually against Geekhack TOS since it is prohibited outside of the marketplace. Most people put up with posts like that but since you're not part of the GB your post is off topic and technically not allowed.
Geekhack Terms of Service:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39249.0
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 18 September 2017, 00:15:06
Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.
I'm sorry, but "post your purchase for people to take over for you." sounds to me like a transfer of slot. Obviously what you do after shipping is all up to you.
Damn, I'm sorry guys, I wasn't trying to create an issue. I totally respect both JChan and Oblotzky's perspective and people's choice to trade their spots, at their risk, independent of the management, I was just trying to be helpful and proactive for all parties. Tensions are way too high surrounding this GB, we're all on the same side and we all want the same thing. There are so few positive and friendly internet communities and I like that, for the most part, this is one of them.
Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 18 September 2017, 00:34:24
Plus... If you refund.. It can be sold through Keyclack at a higher price... So he can make more profit.Before you request a refund, post your purchase for people to take over for you. There are a ton of us that didn't get in on this when it was available, completely understand the gravity of what JChan is going through and will happily wait years if it takes that long.
jchan has repeatedly stated he's not transferring slots anymore as it takes too much time to sort out. refund is the only option, and refunded units will go into retail stock
How about you go worry about yourself instead of policing what people are doing with their slots? If someone wants to sell me a slot and they forward me the item when it comes to them, it's literally none of your business and affects no one.
I'm sorry, but "post your purchase for people to take over for you." sounds to me like a transfer of slot. Obviously what you do after shipping is all up to you.
Damn, I'm sorry guys, I wasn't trying to create an issue. I totally respect both JChan and Oblotzky's perspective and people's choice to trade their spots, at their risk, independent of the management, I was just trying to be helpful and proactive for all parties. Tensions are way too high surrounding this GB, we're all on the same side and we all want the same thing. There are so few positive and friendly internet communities and I like that, for the most part, this is one of them.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 10:40:02
Plus... If you refund.. It can be sold through Keyclack at a higher price... So he can make more profit.
Wow, JChan has spent hundreds if not thousands of hours building this keyboard GB, meeting with and organizing multiple vendors across different continents and languages. Factoring in that, hes probably made less than minimum wage on this project and others all the while dealing with personal circumstances that would drive anyone to tears.
You're a real piece of work. This "community" is full of a bunch of people I'd love to never have to hear from ever again.
Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 18 September 2017, 11:59:56
Plus... If you refund.. It can be sold through Keyclack at a higher price... So he can make more profit.
Wow, JChan has spent hundreds if not thousands of hours building this keyboard GB, meeting with and organizing multiple vendors across different continents and languages. Factoring in that, hes probably made less than minimum wage on this project and others all the while dealing with personal circumstances that would drive anyone to tears.
You're a real piece of work. This "community" is full of a bunch of people I'd love to never have to hear from ever again.
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/7fbd2c8c15660a3b486b6003896aaddb/tumblr_oliwkgMdRy1rfd7lko1_500.gif)
Post by: jraper13 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 14:55:17
Post by: petrock on Mon, 18 September 2017, 15:43:14
any idea on when more of these will be shipped out? still waiting on -164 here!
There is no schedule yet. JChan is going through some personal things so keyboards will not be shipping until that is over! He will keep us in the loop when he can!
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 September 2017, 19:13:48
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Post by: CamRank1 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 23:29:26
Post by: eggplanthero on Tue, 19 September 2017, 00:55:13
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....Then you of all people should understand the situation he is in
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 19 September 2017, 01:01:54
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
?
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 01:52:04
It's really weird to me. JChan and Rama created something that's so good, so desired, that people lose all decency now that there's a delay and they have to wait a bit. Like, are some of you gonna hold your M65-A once you get it, stroke it and hiss "My precioussss"?
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 19 September 2017, 06:38:48
I feel like some posts in this thread should automatically trigger a refund if the OP was in the GB and otherwise ban you from further GBs... Djeez, the nerve on some people.
It's really weird to me. JChan and Rama created something that's so good, so desired, that people lose all decency now that there's a delay and they have to wait a bit. Like, are some of you gonna hold your M65-A once you get it, stroke it and hiss "My precioussss"?
I'm OK with the delay, but I still might hold my m65-a and call it the preciousss
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 19 September 2017, 08:05:50
I feel like some posts in this thread should automatically trigger a refund if the OP was in the GB and otherwise ban you from further GBs... Djeez, the nerve on some people.
It's really weird to me. JChan and Rama created something that's so good, so desired, that people lose all decency now that there's a delay and they have to wait a bit. Like, are some of you gonna hold your M65-A once you get it, stroke it and hiss "My precioussss"?
I'm OK with the delay, but I still might hold my m65-a and call it the preciousss
Might? I'm definitely doing this.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 19 September 2017, 08:43:11
I feel like some posts in this thread should automatically trigger a refund if the OP was in the GB and otherwise ban you from further GBs... Djeez, the nerve on some people.
It's really weird to me. JChan and Rama created something that's so good, so desired, that people lose all decency now that there's a delay and they have to wait a bit. Like, are some of you gonna hold your M65-A once you get it, stroke it and hiss "My precioussss"?
I'm OK with the delay, but I still might hold my m65-a and call it the preciousss
Might? I'm definitely doing this.
/r/CummingOnM65 calling it now
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 19 September 2017, 09:23:35
I feel like some posts in this thread should automatically trigger a refund if the OP was in the GB and otherwise ban you from further GBs... Djeez, the nerve on some people.
It's really weird to me. JChan and Rama created something that's so good, so desired, that people lose all decency now that there's a delay and they have to wait a bit. Like, are some of you gonna hold your M65-A once you get it, stroke it and hiss "My precioussss"?
I'm OK with the delay, but I still might hold my m65-a and call it the preciousss
Might? I'm definitely doing this.
/r/CummingOnM65 calling it now
Probably more like /r/tributemykeeb
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 19 September 2017, 10:48:37
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
Post by: CamRank1 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:48:13
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
Post by: phutro on Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:51:04
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
Dude, whut? How insensitive can you get...
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 19 September 2017, 16:03:01
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
Christ man, someone in his immediate family has brain cancer and he's dealing with their condition as well as his own stuff.
Take your refund and go.
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 19 September 2017, 16:30:22
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
Christ man, someone in his immediate family has brain cancer and he's dealing with their condition as well as his own stuff.
Take your refund and go.
Damn, this guy is cold... :(
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 19 September 2017, 17:20:00
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
If you post your order number then jchan can process your refund right away.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 19 September 2017, 17:40:18
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
Careful bud, your ignorance is showing
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 18:52:39
In any case, some units should start shipping out this week, thanks for your patience.
I have a few refunds to process, for a few people that have contacted me, and I will get to those as well.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 18:56:00
Circumstances change, situations are fickle, but such is life, and life goes on.
Thanks for your patience, love and understanding.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 19 September 2017, 19:28:04
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:37:40
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 19 September 2017, 22:07:39
Things are stabilizing - we're currently working on the long term plans.
Excellent ... so when is round 2?
That's honestly my attempt at a joke. Hope it made you chuckle more than wince.
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 19 September 2017, 22:38:22
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 02:18:08
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
I remember when I joined a group buy and didn't act like a giant ******* when the world stopped moving cause I don't have my keyboard yet.
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:27:56
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
you ****ing serious dude? Take your money and gtfo.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:41:20
Things are stabilizing - we're currently working on the long term plans.
In any case, some units should start shipping out this week, thanks for your patience.
I have a few refunds to process, for a few people that have contacted me, and I will get to those as well.
Hope you're doing better bro, hang in there!
Post by: dyoungc on Thu, 21 September 2017, 08:52:20
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Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 September 2017, 09:15:57
Did anyone not receive the screw in stabs with their order? Also, it looks like my plate has a gouge on one side due to manufacturing defect. Should i be contacting oblotzky or jchan directly? I was going to wait on this until after the heat dies down but hope you understand I wna start typing on this asap.
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I've heard of a couple others not getting all their screws. Email support regarding both.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:14:29
Did anyone not receive the screw in stabs with their order? Also, it looks like my plate has a gouge on one side due to manufacturing defect. Should i be contacting oblotzky or jchan directly? I was going to wait on this until after the heat dies down but hope you understand I wna start typing on this asap.
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Hey, I am not employed by KeyClack if you got that impression. All support issues must go through support@keyclack.com. I'm just a very active member who has worked with jchan as the designer of another group buy :)
Post by: sixdeuces on Thu, 21 September 2017, 10:18:54
I'm just a very active member who has worked with jchan as the designer of another group buy :)
And oh man, are those two buys going to look good together! GMK Oblivion on Space Gray... can not wait.
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 22 September 2017, 18:23:24
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
you ****ing serious dude? Take your money and gtfo.
you people are nuts. bills still have to be paid regardless of what is going on in someone's life. what planet do you people live on??? I got screwed out of a company i built that shouldve been a lifechanger a few weeks back, if I was any of you apparently i would be sitting at home crying all day long instead of trying to make sure my mortgage can still get paid. Are people acting crazy when they should be fine with waiting a little longer? Yeah. But at the same time hes just asking what the guy is doing on a daily basis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 22 September 2017, 18:54:41
I remember when my family member had a terminal illness... and I still had to go to work on Monday....
That sucks for you that you work for such a sucky company. But that has zero bearing here.
I was pointing out that the world continues moving when people are sick, like what is he doing for 24hrs a day? Just mourning?
you ****ing serious dude? Take your money and gtfo.
you people are nuts. bills still have to be paid regardless of what is going on in someone's life. what planet do you people live on??? I got screwed out of a company i built that shouldve been a lifechanger a few weeks back, if I was any of you apparently i would be sitting at home crying all day long instead of trying to make sure my mortgage can still get paid. Are people acting crazy when they should be fine with waiting a little longer? Yeah. But at the same time hes just asking what the guy is doing on a daily basis
You're nuts. Wanting to know what he's doing all day, etc. You're entitled to exactly what you got. The choice to get out or to hold fast. You're not entitled to anything other than that. You know jack **** about his finances, or how he's paying for his own life- and that's exactly as it should be. You're comparing apples to oranges, in all honesty.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 22 September 2017, 22:17:50
You're nuts. Wanting to know what he's doing all day, etc. You're entitled to exactly what you got. The choice to get out or to hold fast. You're not entitled to anything other than that. You know jack **** about his finances, or how he's paying for his own life- and that's exactly as it should be. You're comparing apples to oranges, in all honesty.
I agree with Chuck Dee here, once you hear that someone is dealing with a tragedy firsthand you should just take a step back and give them as much space as they need, offer support and leave it at that. Doesn't matter how you handle tragedy, doesn't matter what your expectations are, doesn't matter if you really want something from them, it's not about you, it's about them, because they are going through the trauma, you should be considerate of their needs, and put yours aside
Post by: dyoungc on Sat, 23 September 2017, 03:25:51
I must have gotten the names mixed up. Jchan posted something about having someone else take over logistics, and I thought I saw your name associated with that.Did anyone not receive the screw in stabs with their order? Also, it looks like my plate has a gouge on one side due to manufacturing defect. Should i be contacting oblotzky or jchan directly? I was going to wait on this until after the heat dies down but hope you understand I wna start typing on this asap.
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Hey, I am not employed by KeyClack if you got that impression. All support issues must go through support@keyclack.com. I'm just a very active member who has worked with jchan as the designer of another group buy :)
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Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 23 September 2017, 20:05:21
After some time to collect everything that is happening we're currently working on a plan and we're in therapy(aka treatment) mode.
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I looked over the stabilizer packages and it seems that they are all missing screws (for the 2U) so I'll have to get those locally and then sort them to get this moving along.
Regarding some parts that are in Asia currently for reanodization - they are being fixed up but due to some week long holiday in the beginning of October those will be delayed.
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In any case I've ordered extra units to help fulfill the people wanting extras. We'll have a lot of extra units so please don't hunt in the aftermarket for these.
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We'll be moving M65A's sometime next week.
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I really want to thank everyone for being understanding. I know that it doesn't look good on me and I completely accept the feelings you may harbor towards me.
Cheers & have a good Saturday.
Post by: sixdeuces on Sat, 23 September 2017, 20:23:00
Pretty cool to hear about extras, too. There are a lot of people who regret missing the buy, and I hope they're able to get in now without draining their life savings.
Post by: ptiede on Sat, 23 September 2017, 20:30:46
Thanks for understanding the gravity of the situation.
After some time to collect everything that is happening we're currently working on a plan and we're in therapy(aka treatment) mode.
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I looked over the stabilizer packages and it seems that they are all missing screws (for the 2U) so I'll have to get those locally and then sort them to get this moving along.
Regarding some parts that are in Asia currently for reanodization - they are being fixed up but due to some week long holiday in the beginning of October those will be delayed.
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In any case I've ordered extra units to help fulfill the people wanting extras. We'll have a lot of extra units so please don't hunt in the aftermarket for these.
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We'll be moving M65A's sometime next week.
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I really want to thank everyone for being understanding. I know that it doesn't look good on me and I completely accept the feelings you may harbor towards me.
Cheers & have a good Saturday.
Where will we be able to get the extras? I just really don't want to miss out!
Post by: aneasyusername on Sat, 23 September 2017, 21:12:57
Where will we be able to get the extras? I just really don't want to miss out!First post fam.
Q: When will there be R2/Extras available for sale?
A: Sign up to the mailing list to be the first to know. Here - https://eepurl.com/coAJ5r ; After R1 ships.
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 24 September 2017, 10:56:02
Post by: mattijs on Sun, 24 September 2017, 22:52:25
Post by: yokken on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:41:01
Joseph, please handle it at your own pace, and good on you for not letting everyone get to you.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 15:56:33
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Post by: Atredl on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:01:26
Nice good to hear this is moving forward man hope all is well. Is it the case that some of us are waiting on re anode from the factory? ThanksThe ones that are going back for re-ano are going to part of the extras. He used the extras he ordered to make sure that no one from the GB would have to wait for their case to be re-anodized.
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Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 26 September 2017, 16:13:14
Thx for the reply. However i think that was said before jchan did his complete qc of all the boards. Thanks again in advanceNice good to hear this is moving forward man hope all is well. Is it the case that some of us are waiting on re anode from the factory? ThanksThe ones that are going back for re-ano are going to part of the extras. He used the extras he ordered to make sure that no one from the GB would have to wait for their case to be re-anodized.
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Post by: phutro on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:48:32
Post by: r4wromg on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:57:09
Does anyone know the screw sizes included with the kit? I'd like to replace them with black ones. Regards,
I'm assuming you're referring to the screws for the stabilizers, correct? Since IIRC the actual board screws are already black.
If so, the stabilizers screws are M2x4mm
Post by: phutro on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:33:38
Does anyone know the screw sizes included with the kit? I'd like to replace them with black ones. Regards,
I'm assuming you're referring to the screws for the stabilizers, correct? Since IIRC the actual board screws are already black.
If so, the stabilizers screws are M2x4mm
Not the stabilizer screws. The screws to mount the plate to the top bezel, the screws to mount the bottom body, and the ones that mount the engraved plate on the bottom. Mine are all silver.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 28 September 2017, 23:35:54
The screws that came with each kit came were different depending on the color case you got.
I'm assuming you're referring to the screws for the stabilizers, correct? Since IIRC the actual board screws are already black.
If so, the stabilizers screws are M2x4mm
Post by: Aesomatica on Sat, 30 September 2017, 16:15:31
Hope everything continues to trend better for you jchan, and that you have enough time and patience for the hobby soon.
Post by: Valaris on Sat, 30 September 2017, 18:12:48
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Mon, 02 October 2017, 09:59:13
Hey guys, just wanted to keep the thread alive (and the hype!) and say I'm still psyched to get this beautiful piece of gear.
Hope everything continues to trend better for you jchan, and that you have enough time and patience for the hobby soon.
I couldn't agree more. I just got my Norbauer Case for my Novatouch and I'm so in love now with hefty, aluminum cases for keyboards. I'm extra excited for this one to come next since the Hydro Blue will be a great pop of color and an interesting layout for me. ;D
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 02 October 2017, 11:53:52
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 02 October 2017, 12:16:55
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 02 October 2017, 21:31:21
Post by: Jeu on Mon, 02 October 2017, 22:29:59
Sorry for the edits, here is a Hydro x Hydro build log. Hype intensifies! Well worth any wait ladies and gents.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 03 October 2017, 08:02:24
Any updates on these. Thanks!
+1 Hope everything is going well!
Post by: phutro on Tue, 03 October 2017, 14:12:31
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Tue, 03 October 2017, 17:20:23
https://m.imgur.com/a/98s65 (https://m.imgur.com/a/98s65)
Sorry for the edits, here is a Hydro x Hydro build log. Hype intensifies! Well worth any wait ladies and gents.
Super nice! My Hydro x Hydro will be pretty close to being my ideal endgame so it's great to see others building theirs and getting to see what I've got coming :thumb:
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 03 October 2017, 17:57:48
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:20:59
Any updates on these. Thanks!
+1 Hope everything is going well!
I saw him post an Overwatch glitch gif on Reddit yesterday. (Is Mei still bae? I haven’t played in forever!)
Here’s hoping he’s good now and we’ll get some updates soon. :)
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 03 October 2017, 22:30:02
Yea saw some instagram updates on the bke done too so it seems hes back in the saddle. All good newsAny updates on these. Thanks!
+1 Hope everything is going well!
I saw him post an Overwatch glitch gif on Reddit yesterday. (Is Mei still bae? I haven’t played in forever!)
Here’s hoping he’s good now and we’ll get some updates soon. :)
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Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 04 October 2017, 20:00:38
Post by: thekiddzac on Wed, 04 October 2017, 20:12:51
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 04 October 2017, 20:13:52
did i miss the extras?
No.
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 04 October 2017, 22:14:55
Size before:
text data bss dec hex filename
0 19436 0 19436 4bec jc65_default.hex
Size after:
text data bss dec hex filename
0 19436 0 19436 4bec jc65_default.hex
dfu-programmer: no device present.
Error: Bootloader not found. Trying again in 5s.
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 04 October 2017, 22:45:19
Please help, when I run make jc65-default-dfu I got the following
Size before:
text data bss dec hex filename
0 19436 0 19436 4bec jc65_default.hex
Size after:
text data bss dec hex filename
0 19436 0 19436 4bec jc65_default.hex
dfu-programmer: no device present.
Error: Bootloader not found. Trying again in 5s.
you need to press the reset key which is behind the board. either leave the bottom open and flash it before putting it together.
remember to program a RESET key so that you dont have to keep opening the case for subsequent flashings.
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 04 October 2017, 23:07:26
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 October 2017, 23:10:54
Sorry for the newbie question but where exactly the "reset" button is located on the bottom of the pcb?
i think near where the arrow cluster lives, on the reverse side of the pcb
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 00:55:17
Sorry for the newbie question but where exactly the "reset" button is located on the bottom of the pcb?
Just above left shift, if you can't find it you probably got the ps2avrGB PCB.
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 05 October 2017, 21:50:00
Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 05 October 2017, 22:09:58
Any suggestions about witch button to set as reset?
i use personally use function escape.
Post by: imprevade on Fri, 06 October 2017, 09:11:12
Any suggestions about witch button to set as reset?
i use personally use function escape.
I use Meta + R.
I have all my keyboard related functions, such as led controls, reset, etc, on the 'meta' layer. I try to program them to keys that are easy to remember. R for Reset, U for Underglow, B for Backlight, etc.
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 06 October 2017, 10:54:03
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Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 06 October 2017, 10:57:25
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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Post by: jjwax on Fri, 06 October 2017, 11:33:41
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 06 October 2017, 12:50:38
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
+2
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 06 October 2017, 12:51:20
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: marre259 on Fri, 06 October 2017, 13:55:21
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 06 October 2017, 16:53:21
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: CamRank1 on Sun, 08 October 2017, 07:55:58
Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:34:47
+6Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: Valaris on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:54:03
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER+6Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: kacase on Mon, 09 October 2017, 06:39:55
+8+6Any updates avail? Another week gone by and no shipping. :/I really want to know too. Got excited when he said he would be shipping out some a week or two ago :/
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+1 - Im sympathetic to jchan's situation, but a "hey, no updates yet, still dealing with life" would be nice even
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Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 09 October 2017, 07:45:13
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 09 October 2017, 07:47:42
Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.I dont think we are asking for much dude...
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
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Post by: sixdeuces on Mon, 09 October 2017, 07:59:56
His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now
Exactly this. His silence leads me to believe something is going sideways for him right now. Hoping everything turns out OK for him.
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 09 October 2017, 15:21:41
Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:28:08
Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.
I definitely fall into that category, but I don't think we're entitled to jack. I trust that jchan will fulfill the orders so I will sit tight for now, while he sorts his life out. (Albeit checking this thread compulsively every day).
If you feel like you're entitled to anything more than a refund (technically you're not even entitled to that, since it's been >180 days), I suggest you go read the GB "caveat emptor" piece
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:41:44
Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.
I definitely fall into that category, but I don't think we're entitled to jack. I trust that jchan will fulfill the orders so I will sit tight for now, while he sorts his life out. (Albeit checking this thread compulsively every day).
If you feel like you're entitled to anything more than a refund (technically you're not even entitled to that, since it's been >180 days), I suggest you go read the GB "caveat emptor" piece
I don't quite agree with this... there is almost a fiduciary responsibility when entering into a group buy. Buyers are placing their trust into a runner to deliver a product. I understand certain things come up, deadlines might not be met, quality standards might not be the same, but still there is trust given to a runner to deliver the best possible version of the imagined product. I agree people should be patient, but given that the gb has dragged on for quite sometime and people in Asia have received their boards for months, I feel like people are entitled to at least some form of communication on a constant basis. "Hey nothing happened today" "Two boards went out today" I don't think this is too much to ask.
Also the not being entitled to a refund given its >180 days is bull****. By that logic, gbs that take over >180 should all be immediately refunded. I think everyone understands their are risks involved in gbs, but doesnt mean the runners can't be held accountable for their actions.
Post by: FioraCorp on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:45:53
You're welcome to your opinion but it still doesn't change the fact that, in good faith, consistent updates *should* be provided to gb members should the period delivery date get pushed past the original planned buy period. It's not even like Afrokobe is suggesting that we have our boards delivered, he's just asking for an update. You're literally shaming people for wanting a quick update once every 2 weeks. Regardless of the extenuating circumstances, this is pretty easy to provide as a group buy runner. If you're willing to wait without any kind of update, then seriously that's great, but it's ok for other people to want to hear some kind of update, too. This thread is literally designated for communication around this group buy, in a bidirectional sense. It's not unexpected to see that kind of communication happening in here.Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.
I definitely fall into that category, but I don't think we're entitled to jack. I trust that jchan will fulfill the orders so I will sit tight for now, while he sorts his life out. (Albeit checking this thread compulsively every day).
If you feel like you're entitled to anything more than a refund (technically you're not even entitled to that, since it's been >180 days), I suggest you go read the GB "caveat emptor" piece
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:46:24
Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.
I definitely fall into that category, but I don't think we're entitled to jack. I trust that jchan will fulfill the orders so I will sit tight for now, while he sorts his life out. (Albeit checking this thread compulsively every day).
If you feel like you're entitled to anything more than a refund (technically you're not even entitled to that, since it's been >180 days), I suggest you go read the GB "caveat emptor" piece
I don't quite agree with this... there is almost a fiduciary responsibility when entering into a group buy. Buyers are placing their trust into a runner to deliver a product. I understand certain things come up, deadlines might not be met, quality standards might not be the same, but still there is trust given to a runner to deliver the best possible version of the imagined product. I agree people should be patient, but given that the gb has dragged on for quite sometime and people in Asia have received their boards for months, I feel like people are entitled to at least some form of communication on a constant basis. "Hey nothing happened today" "Two boards went out today" I don't think this is too much to ask.
Also the not being entitled to a refund given its >180 days is bull****. By that logic, gbs that take over >180 should all be immediately refunded. I think everyone understands their are risks involved in gbs, but doesnt mean the runners can't be held accountable for their actions.
I totally see your point of view, and agree with all of it on an emotional level. We all invested time and money, and want to see our dividends!
I'm speaking from a purely legal standpoint. All of us have little to no recourse at this point
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:46:38
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.I’m sorry but the vast majority of people have only invested as much time as it takes to comment on forums. The only real people that have invested time are the people that have either helped design, manufacture or ship this board. Most people have only been waiting. Waiting time can hardly be called time lost because you were able to do other things in the mean time.
As for investing money you can get it all back and have literally lost nothing.
Really don’t want to start a flame war but saying that the people that bought into this have actually invested time disregards the people like Jchan, Rama, and others who have actually put in time they can’t get back.
I get that communication is important but if there’s no update then I doubt Jchan want to keep coming here and saying “no update yet” because then there will be those that complain saying that “no update” updates aren’t enough. Jchan has given a very solid alternative because of his failure to keep on schedule which is much more than other GBs have had in the past.
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:53:43
people need to stop suggesting "just get a refund" as a solution to the problem. Peopled have waited for months for a board. They have invested time and money into this project. They are entitled to updates and some semblance of responsibility to keep to the original timeline. People saying stop complaining and just get a refund seems like its kind of a slap in the face to gb participants who still want the board, but just want some sort of communication.I’m sorry but the vast majority of people have only invested as much time as it takes to comment on forums. The only real people that have invested time are the people that have either helped design, manufacture or ship this board. Most people have only been waiting. Waiting time can hardly be called time lost because you were able to do other things in the mean time.
As for investing money you can get it all back and have literally lost nothing.
Really don’t want to start a flame war but saying that the people that bought into this have actually invested time disregards the people like Jchan, Rama, and others who have actually put in time they can’t get back.
I get that communication is important but if there’s no update then I doubt Jchan want to keep coming here and saying “no update yet” because then there will be those that complain saying that “no update” updates aren’t enough. Jchan has given a very solid alternative because of his failure to keep on schedule which is much more than other GBs have had in the past.
I think one problem is that his two latest updates in this thread mentioned shipping in the following week, one was September 19th, and the latest was September 23rd.
Now I'm ok with waiting and trust him but I can see how people would get annoyed at that. There's also been a few M65's up for sale on mechmarket so that might rile up some people too.
Again, not saying I agree, but I kind of understand where they are coming from.
Post by: kustom3 on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:55:08
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 09 October 2017, 17:08:01
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Truth.
Imma shutup, and send good thoughts jchans way.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 09 October 2017, 17:10:21
I think one problem is that his two latest updates in this thread mentioned shipping in the following week, one was September 19th, and the latest was September 23rd.Yeah, I get where they’re coming from and I’d be pretty annoyed with the delays and communication too but there is a concrete option that’s available. In other GBs we didn’t have that option and were forced to wait if we stuck past the PayPal protection window.
Now I'm ok with waiting and trust him but I can see how people would get annoyed at that. There's also been a few M65's up for sale on mechmarket so that might rile up some people too.
Again, not saying I agree, but I kind of understand where they are coming from.
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 09 October 2017, 17:21:07
I think one problem is that his two latest updates in this thread mentioned shipping in the following week, one was September 19th, and the latest was September 23rd.Yeah, I get where they’re coming from and I’d be pretty annoyed with the delays and communication too but there is a concrete option that’s available. In other GBs we didn’t have that option and were forced to wait if we stuck past the PayPal protection window.
Now I'm ok with waiting and trust him but I can see how people would get annoyed at that. There's also been a few M65's up for sale on mechmarket so that might rile up some people too.
Again, not saying I agree, but I kind of understand where they are coming from.
Last custom thing I ordered online took 2 years to arrive. Original ETA was 3 to 6 months. Dude blocked me from Facebook/emails because I was asking for updates after the paypal protection expired. I'm still amazed the item came in at all. Still, **** you Aniki Cosplay.
After that, anything I buy online seems like a breeze.
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 09 October 2017, 19:21:27
I'm sorry you're going through this kind of stuff, man. I wish you and your friend all the best.
Post by: dohmain on Mon, 09 October 2017, 21:44:41
However, at this moment I feel like he's just ignored the M65-A GB, and here's why:
On Sept. 23rd jchan said these would start shipping "sometime next week"
Sept. 30th came and nothing happened. Whatever, I'm sure there will be some sort update.
Oct. 2nd jchan made a few posts to his other threads, but was silent on M65-A. Anything would've been appreciated at this time.
Oct. 6th is jchan's last login, which was after several posts asking for any kind of update.
I'm not demanding shipping now. I'm not demanding a refund. I'm not saying he should explain what is going on in his life. But, if he had the time to make updates on his other threads, it would be nice if he chimed in here to let us know that we have not been forgotten about. Even if it is to say that he still cannot manage to ship the boards.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 10 October 2017, 08:02:16
But, if he had the time to make updates on his other threads, it would be nice if he chimed in here to let us know that we have not been forgotten about. Even if it is to say that he still cannot manage to ship the boards.
This hits the nail square on the head for me. Thanks.
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 18:28:59
Yeah, okay. I've been waiting on this silently until now because jchan always managed to come up with some sort of status update.Yea u right...
However, at this moment I feel like he's just ignored the M65-A GB, and here's why:
On Sept. 23rd jchan said these would start shipping "sometime next week"
Sept. 30th came and nothing happened. Whatever, I'm sure there will be some sort update.
Oct. 2nd jchan made a few posts to his other threads, but was silent on M65-A. Anything would've been appreciated at this time.
Oct. 6th is jchan's last login, which was after several posts asking for any kind of update.
I'm not demanding shipping now. I'm not demanding a refund. I'm not saying he should explain what is going on in his life. But, if he had the time to make updates on his other threads, it would be nice if he chimed in here to let us know that we have not been forgotten about. Even if it is to say that he still cannot manage to ship the boards.
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Post by: Arcsxum on Tue, 10 October 2017, 21:24:14
I don't know about other people, but this is my first experience (outside of massdrop with Godspeed) of having a group buy do this. I empathize with Jchan's situation (I had to carry my friend's casket in University after his fight with lymphoma), but tbh, I probably won't be buying anything else from Keyclack again. This whole experience has been a wake-up call to the realities of group buys that my excitement for the hobby blinded me from.
I'm sorry you're going through this kind of stuff, man. I wish you and your friend all the best.
As much as it pains me to say it, I have to agree with you. While I love this hobby and all the effort the designers put in to it, this one GB is like you said, "a wake-up call to the realities of group buys." Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against jchan as I believe that he will deliver, but from a realistic standpoint, I do not like how he is handling this situation nor will I purchase from Keyclack either.
Yeah, okay. I've been waiting on this silently until now because jchan always managed to come up with some sort of status update.
However, at this moment I feel like he's just ignored the M65-A GB, and here's why:
On Sept. 23rd jchan said these would start shipping "sometime next week"
Sept. 30th came and nothing happened. Whatever, I'm sure there will be some sort update.
Oct. 2nd jchan made a few posts to his other threads, but was silent on M65-A. Anything would've been appreciated at this time.
Oct. 6th is jchan's last login, which was after several posts asking for any kind of update.
I'm not demanding shipping now. I'm not demanding a refund. I'm not saying he should explain what is going on in his life. But, if he had the time to make updates on his other threads, it would be nice if he chimed in here to let us know that we have not been forgotten about. Even if it is to say that he still cannot manage to ship the boards.
Likewise, when I see an update from jchan, given he knows how his customers are reacting to all this, I honestly expected him to follow up. At first it was only once that he mentioned he was gonna ship some, but didn't. Then it happened a second time. And before all the self-righteous people flame me, some of us have been waiting far too long without any solid updates and I think there is a limit to how long we can patiently wait. Yes, this is a GB. Yes, we all knew what we were getting ourselves into. Yes, there will be delays. But at the same time, you can't be defending jchan blindly.
Again, I'm not trying to start anything. I've just also been quiet this whole time and finally thought I would speak truthfully on what I believe.
Post by: therealmckellar on Tue, 10 October 2017, 21:43:47
You're not.Yes, we get it, you all want to be kept up to date. There's still plenty of us waiting on their keebs. The solution has been posted many many times: either you ask for a refund or you wait.I dont think we are asking for much dude...
The situation sucks, but I chose to trust JChan's good standing. His absence leads me to assume nothing good is going on in his life right now and I hope he can process this in a proper way.
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Desperate ppl are trying to play the white knight, almost as if this situation was the same as a girl who they're hoping will give them a chance so in front of her he calls out some guy for not treating her right, meekly hoping she'll notice and start talking to him.
They're acting like people are out of line or selfish for wanting to know what the deal is. I mean, half the stuff shipped out, why not just ship everything? Why go MIA from this entire forum? I pointed it out before but was savagely accosted for suggesting that when someone is in the hospital, they're loved ones still have to go to work, school, etc.. They have to pay the bills and keep their life going. It would be extremely troubling to spend every waking moment in the hospital morning and shut down every other aspect of life. Not to be a **** or anything but this is reality.
Im looking for a space grey or black M65. Figured it was a good time to mention that.
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Post by: Dominathan on Tue, 10 October 2017, 22:35:51
I pointed it out before but was savagely accosted for suggesting that when someone is in the hospital, they're loved ones still have to go to work, school, etc.. They have to pay the bills and keep their life going. It would be extremely troubling to spend every waking moment in the hospital morning and shut down every other aspect of life. Not to be a **** or anything but this is reality.
Honestly, I don’t think you should have been attacked so viciously.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 11 October 2017, 01:07:24
They're acting like people are out of line or selfish for wanting to know what the deal is. I mean, half the stuff shipped out, why not just ship everything? Why go MIA from this entire forum? I pointed it out before but was savagely accosted for suggesting that when someone is in the hospital, they're loved ones still have to go to work, school, etc.. They have to pay the bills and keep their life going. It would be extremely troubling to spend every waking moment in the hospital morning and shut down every other aspect of life. Not to be a **** or anything but this is reality.
I think a lot of people just feel that it's inconsiderate to tell him what he should be doing in the face of his trauma, to assume what he is going through based on their own experience, or to feel the need to remind him of his responsibility despite his situation.
And I don't think it's fair to call it savage, but you were the one to offer the 'get over it' group's harshest example of your perspective and you became the poster child for your sides view because of it, so most of the 'Blue Pill' white knights directed their frustration at you. Ultimately my side's perspective isn't going to change your side's perspective which isn't going to make JChan do anything differently, I think we are all just spinning our wheels ineffectually.
Post by: therealmckellar on Wed, 11 October 2017, 01:12:33
I think you have me confused for someone else. That didn't happen to me. Just two ppl responded to me I think. Unless I missed itThey're acting like people are out of line or selfish for wanting to know what the deal is. I mean, half the stuff shipped out, why not just ship everything? Why go MIA from this entire forum? I pointed it out before but was savagely accosted for suggesting that when someone is in the hospital, they're loved ones still have to go to work, school, etc.. They have to pay the bills and keep their life going. It would be extremely troubling to spend every waking moment in the hospital morning and shut down every other aspect of life. Not to be a **** or anything but this is reality.
I think a lot of people just feel that it's inconsiderate to tell him what he should be doing in the face of his trauma, to assume what he is going through based on their own experience, or to feel the need to remind him of his responsibility despite his situation.
And I don't think it's fair to call it savage, but you were the one to offer the 'get over it' group's harshest example of your perspective and you became the poster child for your sides view because of it, so most of the 'Blue Pill' white knights directed their frustration at you. Ultimately my side's perspective isn't going to change your side's perspective which isn't going to make JChan do anything differently, I think we are all just spinning our wheels ineffectually.
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Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 11 October 2017, 06:17:06
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 11 October 2017, 06:50:53
Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 11 October 2017, 06:52:18
Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
Thank you.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 11 October 2017, 08:49:17
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:11:06
What happened with the rest of the shipments? is the "message" just - take your refund or wait for the GB runner to get on top of a life situation? :blank:
Any invoice numbers that he's listed as shipped have all been delivered by this point as far as any of us know. If yours hasn't shipped yet then you can get a refund or wait however long it takes for them to ship.
Post by: petrock on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:24:17
Any invoice numbers that he's listed as shipped have all been delivered by this point as far as any of us know. If yours hasn't shipped yet then you can get a refund or wait however long it takes for them to ship.
That isn't 100% true. Mine was shipped in early August, but the tracking info never updated from "Label Created".
Not sure if anyone else is in my situation, but I was communicating with JChan about it but he hasn't responded since September 9th. Now I am 100% of the beliefs that JChan should deal with life obligations first, but having open lines of communication is more desirable than the silence that we are getting.
I've can't say that I have participated in a high number of group buys, but JChan has a fantastic reputation. I am more than happy to wait as long as needed for the group buy to be completed, and I would be happy to be the last one to receive the keyboard so long as I can know that the board is coming.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:26:47
That isn't 100% true. Mine was shipped in early August, but the tracking info never updated from "Label Created".
Yours hasn't shipped. Like it says, only the label has been created. It needs to be collected/dropped off.
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Post by: petrock on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:29:44
Yours hasn't shipped. Like it says, only the label has been created. It needs to be collected/dropped off.
Hey thanks for that! Unfortunately according to JChan, he doesn't have the package either.
Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:44:26
Yours hasn't shipped. Like it says, only the label has been created. It needs to be collected/dropped off.
Hey thanks for that! Unfortunately according to JChan, he doesn't have the package either.
If it was dropped off he should have a receipt. At that point, if there was insurance you'll need to file a claim with the USPS. (Might want to rush that... think it has to be filed within 30 days.) I was just through this myself. Dropped off a package containing a very early Model M and they lost it after it hit their NJ hub. Just disappeared. Very sad. On the bright side, they did eventually refund it all and I actually made a few extra bucks, but I hate knowing that gorgeous board is just floating around in some warehouse somewhere!
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:56:46
, but I hate knowing that gorgeous board is just floating around in some warehouse somewhere!
For what it's worth, it's probably not in a warehouse. Someone snagged it. Seen a FedEx employee snag a 55 inch tv and then the package was declared "lost".
Post by: petrock on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:03:14
If it was dropped off he should have a receipt. At that point, if there was insurance you'll need to file a claim with the USPS. (Might want to rush that... think it has to be filed within 30 days.) I was just through this myself. Dropped off a package containing a very early Model M and they lost it after it hit their NJ hub. Just disappeared. Very sad. On the bright side, they did eventually refund it all and I actually made a few extra bucks, but I hate knowing that gorgeous board is just floating around in some warehouse somewhere!
If its a 30 day time period that a claim needs to be filed within, I'm already **** out of luck.
Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:05:03
, but I hate knowing that gorgeous board is just floating around in some warehouse somewhere!
For what it's worth, it's probably not in a warehouse. Someone snagged it. Seen a FedEx employee snag a 55 inch tv and then the package was declared "lost".
It's a different ballgame with USPS though... if you get caught stealing mail it's a federal offense. If they were willing to risk, as Office Space put it, "federal-pound-me-in-the-ass prison" then they needed it more than me anyway.
Post by: sixdeuces on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:07:20
If its a 30 day time period that a claim needs to be filed within, I'm already **** out of luck.
Not necessarily. It's 30 days after it's officially lost, which I think is a minimum two weeks after shipment and there's a window of time there. Not sure. In any case, you'll need the full receipts for both post office and sale of board for proof of value. Talk to your local postmaster if you decide to move on it.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:08:50
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Post by: petrock on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:13:44
If it said label created and the tracking nevr updated then i would assume the package was never picked up. However if it was somehow picked up then i would be concerned
This is what I am most worried about. According to JChan it was picked up along with all of the other packages on August 3rd however according to the FedEx Tracking there is nothing showing that the board was picked up. Per everyone's suggestions I just submitted a claim to see if that will shed any more light on the situation. I hope that they find the package as I have been looking forward to this buy for a long time and I don't mind waiting to get it. Well that and I don't want to have to fight for the leftovers when those go up for sale.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:19:13
Yea thats strange. Hopefully it is still sitting in jchans warehouse and you can avoid dealing with the carrier :/If it said label created and the tracking nevr updated then i would assume the package was never picked up. However if it was somehow picked up then i would be concerned
This is what I am most worried about. According to JChan it was picked up along with all of the other packages on August 3rd however according to the FedEx Tracking there is nothing showing that the board was picked up. Per everyone's suggestions I just submitted a claim to see if that will shed any more light on the situation. I hope that they find the package as I have been looking forward to this buy for a long time and I don't mind waiting to get it. Well that and I don't want to have to fight for the leftovers when those go up for sale.
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Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:31:01
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:33:52
I'm starting to fear that this might become an IvanIvanovich kind of situation...
Jchan placed the order and received it, so it won't.
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:37:03
Post by: therealmckellar on Wed, 11 October 2017, 10:59:33
Things get stolen from the Kearny NJ hub all the timeYours hasn't shipped. Like it says, only the label has been created. It needs to be collected/dropped off.
Hey thanks for that! Unfortunately according to JChan, he doesn't have the package either.
If it was dropped off he should have a receipt. At that point, if there was insurance you'll need to file a claim with the USPS. (Might want to rush that... think it has to be filed within 30 days.) I was just through this myself. Dropped off a package containing a very early Model M and they lost it after it hit their NJ hub. Just disappeared. Very sad. On the bright side, they did eventually refund it all and I actually made a few extra bucks, but I hate knowing that gorgeous board is just floating around in some warehouse somewhere!
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Post by: therealmckellar on Wed, 11 October 2017, 11:02:30
Here we go with the keyboard police again. You feel the need to tell everyone this? Again I'll ask, what do you care?Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
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Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 October 2017, 11:36:18
Here we go with the keyboard police again. You feel the need to tell everyone this? Again I'll ask, what do you care?Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
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He's trying to be helpful to someone that he's had business with that's going through a rough time. And also stating that there's no official avenue to trade slots, i.e. jchan currently only does refunds in his statement. It's informative, and doesn't seem in any way to be trying to police anything.
Why are you so concerned with his informational post is a more applicable question to you.
Post by: therealmckellar on Wed, 11 October 2017, 11:38:22
Because every single person who puts up their board slot he feels the need to inform. Like there aren't ways around it that don't negatively add to jchans workload. This is at least the 4th time I've seen it and he went after me personally for saying I'm buying a slotHere we go with the keyboard police again. You feel the need to tell everyone this? Again I'll ask, what do you care?Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
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He's trying to be helpful to someone that he's had business with that's going through a rough time. And also stating that there's no official avenue to trade slots, i.e. jchan currently only does refunds in his statement. Why are you so concerned with his singular information post is a more applicable question to you.
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Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 11 October 2017, 11:47:51
Some mention the option of a refund. I don’t think you have noticed the ones who have been waiting for a refund since the first week of September on the MC Rebirth group buy. I myself am currently still waiting for a response and refund from that group buy.
With that being said, I understand the situation JChan is in, but this is getting a little out of hand. If he has time to play and post Overwatch Gifs on Reddit last week (Which was deleted by him), then he should be able to provide updates and ship out the remaining goods.
Again, I truly sympathize, but wouldn’t it be better to at least finish shipping the items he has in hand, so he can finally be at peace with no remaining heavy burdens?. I’m just surprised no one has written a complaint against Keyclack with the Better Business Bureau, Federal Trade Comission, etc.,. Everyone is very forgiving and thoughtful, but this is your money people, I think you deserve updates and your item.
And again, just in case it was missed, I truly do sympathize, but if I had duties I would see that they were attended to immediately, but that’s just me of course, I don’t speak for everyone.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 October 2017, 11:52:09
Because every single person who puts up their board slot he feels the need to inform. Like there aren't ways around it that don't negatively add to jchans workload. This is at least the 4th time I've seen it and he went after me personally for saying I'm buying a slotHere we go with the keyboard police again. You feel the need to tell everyone this? Again I'll ask, what do you care?Spot up for grabs. PM if interested.
jchan currently only does refunds, no transferring of slots. Email support@keyclack.com to request a refund. ;)
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He's trying to be helpful to someone that he's had business with that's going through a rough time. And also stating that there's no official avenue to trade slots, i.e. jchan currently only does refunds in his statement. Why are you so concerned with his singular information post is a more applicable question to you.
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Because a lot don't know that this is in no way official. Just like the PSA when the buys are launched. Don't take it so personally. It's a PSA.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 11 October 2017, 13:21:02
Again, I truly sympathize, but wouldn’t it be better to at least finish shipping the items he has in hand, so he can finally be at peace with no remaining heavy burdens?
The burden's not about to get any lighter either. He's got GMK Oblivion, the 60% brass plates, and the ZKW-II artisans all coming in in like the next 2 weeks.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 October 2017, 13:35:33
Again, I truly sympathize, but wouldn’t it be better to at least finish shipping the items he has in hand, so he can finally be at peace with no remaining heavy burdens?
The burden's not about to get any lighter either. He's got GMK Oblivion, the 60% brass plates, and the ZKW-II artisans all coming in in like the next 2 weeks.
GMK Solarized Dark is in the queue also.
Post by: cooperred on Wed, 11 October 2017, 14:04:45
So...along with everyone else I’m respectfully requesting an update.
Some mention the option of a refund. I don’t think you have noticed the ones who have been waiting for a refund since the first week of September on the MC Rebirth group buy. I myself am currently still waiting for a response and refund from that group buy.
With that being said, I understand the situation JChan is in, but this is getting a little out of hand. If he has time to play and post Overwatch Gifs on Reddit last week (Which was deleted by him), then he should be able to provide updates and ship out the remaining goods.
Again, I truly sympathize, but wouldn’t it be better to at least finish shipping the items he has in hand, so he can finally be at peace with no remaining heavy burdens?. I’m just surprised no one has written a complaint against Keyclack with the Better Business Bureau, Federal Trade Comission, etc.,. Everyone is very forgiving and thoughtful, but this is your money people, I think you deserve updates and your item.
And again, just in case it was missed, I truly do sympathize, but if I had duties I would see that they were attended to immediately, but that’s just me of course, I don’t speak for everyone.
I'm part of the group that wants updates, even if it's just "sorry nothing shipped today." I don't mind waiting for jchan to deal with his personal life and waiting a little to get my board, but if he's playing Overwatch, that's something else. I don't expect him to give up all his free time, but if he can take the time to play games, he can take the time to post an update, if not ship more out.
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 11 October 2017, 17:56:54
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 11 October 2017, 17:58:46
Is there anyone in this thread who has asked for a refund, but hasn't received a response?
Yup. I’m in that boat. Main reason I was trying to sell my spot. I need my money back for my own life situation.
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Post by: jjwax on Wed, 11 October 2017, 18:40:35
Is there anyone in this thread who has asked for a refund, but hasn't received a response?
Yup. I’m in that boat. Main reason I was trying to sell my spot. I need my money back for my own life situation.
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Did you email support@keyckack, or jchans?
Post by: squeakypizza on Wed, 11 October 2017, 18:54:12
That I have.Is there anyone in this thread who has asked for a refund, but hasn't received a response?
Yup. I’m in that boat. Main reason I was trying to sell my spot. I need my money back for my own life situation.
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Did you email support@keyckack, or jchans?
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Post by: _cramil on Wed, 11 October 2017, 21:20:39
I typically check in here every couple days to see what the latest might be. I've been waiting patiently while respecting jchan's need to face personal realities, and resisting the urge to make any kind of unnecessary response. Today's flurry of posts however have pushed me to open up and make a few comments.
I (and most rational customers) totally understand that when any small business you work closely with is faced with a personal hardship that it will no doubt affect their operations, to include periods of time their doors are closed, the phones may go unanswered and emails are not returned. A sign on the door or a message on the website alerts you to the tragic news. With this there is usually an amount of time that this is I'll say "acceptable" from a customer's perspective before it starts to impact their attitudes toward that business regarding both current and future orders or even from a legal action standpoint. When reading through many posts here, what bothers me most and I see defended and promulgated often, is that jchan is just a guy doing a group buy like many of the others here or elsewhere on the internet, and that somehow allows for an open-ended time frame and justifies non-communication and frankly non-performance. The problem with this thinking is that jchan is not operating as just some individual on the internet. He opened up a business and put up a store front to operate under. Running a successful small business is hard work and requires sacrifice. Once you hang that sign up it's time to put on the big boy pants. I think the collective customers are now voicing that the "acceptable" amount of time to get things sorted out in ones personal life is coming to a close. It is not to say that anyone isn't sympathetic to the tragedy, or feels personal ill will, just it's not an unreasonable request to periodically answer collective questions and provide a timeline to meet your commitments.
I will caveat to say this isn't just something for KeyClack, but all the other small businesses that are popping up in the rapidly growing mechanical keyboard world need to think through and consider these things too.
Post by: squeakypizza on Thu, 12 October 2017, 08:04:11
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 12 October 2017, 08:56:54
I do feel as though there has been no action regarding my refund and be it that I'm in need of that refund should be able to sell the spot, have JChan still ship the item to me and I can take card of shipping to the individual once I receive the board. Is that something that would still be frowned upon? I get it that times are tough and I understand tough for JChan and I'm sure he is in a difficult spot. I really hope things get better for this GB.
That would be perfectly fine, but I'm pretty sure a refund would be processed earlier than shipment of more units.
Post by: squeakypizza on Thu, 12 October 2017, 08:59:39
I do feel as though there has been no action regarding my refund and be it that I'm in need of that refund should be able to sell the spot, have JChan still ship the item to me and I can take card of shipping to the individual once I receive the board. Is that something that would still be frowned upon? I get it that times are tough and I understand tough for JChan and I'm sure he is in a difficult spot. I really hope things get better for this GB.
That would be perfectly fine, but I'm pretty sure a refund would be processed earlier than shipment of more units.
Right on. If anyone is still interested in the spot please PM. If I hear anything back from Jchan regarding the refund, I will post that I have heard back from Jchan.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 12 October 2017, 11:05:20
I do feel as though there has been no action regarding my refund and be it that I'm in need of that refund should be able to sell the spot, have JChan still ship the item to me and I can take card of shipping to the individual once I receive the board. Is that something that would still be frowned upon? I get it that times are tough and I understand tough for JChan and I'm sure he is in a difficult spot. I really hope things get better for this GB.
That would be perfectly fine, but I'm pretty sure a refund would be processed earlier than shipment of more units.
Right on. If anyone is still interested in the spot please PM. If I hear anything back from Jchan regarding the refund, I will post that I have heard back from Jchan.
It's just that 'selling my spot' means buying out someone elses order which is then shipped from the GB runner to the buyer. What you are offering is a simple 'buying my M65 once it arrives' so I would word it like that.
Post by: deepthroat on Thu, 12 October 2017, 13:25:15
Here's a condensed timeline of "updates" related to shipping and receiving:
Original Timeline
Estimated Group Buy Period : Approximately 10 - 12 Weeks.
January 7 - 11: Accept Submissions
January 12-14: Invoicing
January 17: Invoice Payment Due
January 19: Submit Payment to Manufacturers
About 50 work days later (excluding CNY 1-23 to 2-8 & Freight Time): Bulk Shipment Arrives
About 1 Week: QC for all the parts.
About 3 Days: Shipping
April 24, 2017
Original estimated ship date, April 30, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178)
May 3, 2017
New estimate after manufacturer delay, May 12, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530)
May 4, 2017 Top Clack
Jchan states he is "discouraged" by people cancelling their orders, but shipping is "not that difficult."
https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s (https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s)
May 24, 2017
Fulfillment estimate "mid-late June"
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459)
June 19, 2017
Jchan states he expects shipment to arrive from forwarding company between approximately June 20 through June 30.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036)
June 29, 2017
Jchan states US customs will release pallets on July 2, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854)
July 4, 2017
Jchan updates that he has no update.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946)
July 5, 2017
Jchan updates that freight company has picked up the pallets and he hopes to ship the first 100 keyboards within one week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2452350#msg2452350
July 11, 2017
Jchan states he should have the pallets by Friday, July 14, 2017. “Shipping to follow immediately.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366)
July 14, 2017
Jchan states he will receive the pallets on Monday, July 17, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661)
July 19, 2017
Jchan receives the keyboards at his office. He states shipping will begin Monday, July 24, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626)
July 21, 2017
Jchan states he plans to ship 30+ per day and complete all shipping in 10 days.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613)
July 26, 2017
Jchan states he’s been sick, and that shipping will begin tomorrow, July 27, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735)
July 27, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 1” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201)
July 28, 2017
Jchan states his intentions of having all orders shipped by August 4, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304)
July 31, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 2” orders, 26 orders total. States “80-90%” of orders will be shipped by August 4, 2017. Also, this is the first mention of anodization issues. Jchan states he will be using extra units to fulfill those orders, so nobody will be affected.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978)
August 1, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK sent him 200 stabilizers instead of 700, and that he is at fault for not checking the shipment when he received it two months prior. Also states he may be “done with M65-A” after round one.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468484#msg2468484
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468598#msg2468598
Jchan ships “Day 3” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651)
August 2, 2017
Jchan offers to ship boards without stabilizers, for people who don’t want to wait.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469125#msg2469125
Jchan ships “Day 4” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239)
August 4, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK is shipping stabilizers, he has 40 orders packed and ready to go once he receives them.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910)
August 8, 2017
Jchan updates that he will receive stabilizers “next week,” and that he’s “just about done with QC.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118)
August 15, 2017
Jchan updates that he’s been in the hospital because someone close to him is having brain surgery.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476209#msg2476209
States he will not hold a round two.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206)
August 16, 2017
Jchan provides update that he is “done at the hospital,” and will package “15 or so” orders “tonight.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759)
August 17, 2017
Jchan states he prepared 10 orders the previous night, and that they should ship the following day.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062)
August 18, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 5” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667)
August 22, 2017
GMK stabilizers arrive.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311)
August 27, 2017
Jchan states that he has 7 orders being picked up “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841)
August 29, 2017
Jokes about “quitting keyboards” and states intention to package 30 orders “tomorrow.” Later states FedEx arrived “after hours” and that 19 orders will ship “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635)
September 12, 2017
First mention that Jchan has hired someone to take on responsibilities at Keyclack.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829)
September 19, 2017
Updates that things are “stabilizing” and that shipping should start next week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776)
September 23, 2017
Jchan updates that stabilizers are missing screws.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907)
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 12 October 2017, 13:33:44
So cryptic
Post by: petrock on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:02:23
"deepthroat"
So cryptic
Considering how earlier on whenever anyone asked for an update they were attacked for being insensitive (some of those attacks were justified due to the posters lack of moral sensitivity). The vast majority were attacked for a fairly reasonable request for a simple post. I don't blame them use of an alt.
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:02:42
According to the "updates," approximately 150 of 450 orders have been shipped so far. Jchan received the shipment on July 19th, and has promised many times that shipping would be "quick" and "easy." We are all sympathetic for him and his personal situation, but remember that he presents Keyclack as a small professional business. He stood in front of all of us at the Seattle meetup and boasted about how he "built his business from the ground up," his transition to doing Keyclack full-time, buying a Prius because of it, and how he goes to great lengths to ensure his business exceeds expectations. I'm sure Jchan has spent a fair amount of time in the hospital, and we all respect that, but it seems he spends his free time playing video games and updating instagram about his "BKE Domes" project instead of fulfilling his responsibility to his customers. I'm less than satisfied, and I will not be ordering from Keyclack again.Wow this is very detailed but also shows the ride we have been on. Just to let everyone know I did get a pm from Jchan on slack yesterday saying that he is working on everything. He also offered a sincere apology. However that being said I am in the camp that thinks these are not shipped because of issues with the boards. Maybe they are in China getting the anode redone. This is only speculation but after getting the run around for so long that is all i can do is speculate.
Here's a condensed timeline of "updates" related to shipping and receiving:
Original Timeline
Estimated Group Buy Period : Approximately 10 - 12 Weeks.
January 7 - 11: Accept Submissions
January 12-14: Invoicing
January 17: Invoice Payment Due
January 19: Submit Payment to Manufacturers
About 50 work days later (excluding CNY 1-23 to 2-8 & Freight Time): Bulk Shipment Arrives
About 1 Week: QC for all the parts.
About 3 Days: Shipping
April 24, 2017
Original estimated ship date, April 30, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178)
May 3, 2017
New estimate after manufacturer delay, May 12, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530)
May 4, 2017 Top Clack
Jchan states he is "discouraged" by people cancelling their orders, but shipping is "not that difficult."
https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s (https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s)
May 24, 2017
Fulfillment estimate "mid-late June"
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459)
June 19, 2017
Jchan states he expects shipment to arrive from forwarding company between approximately June 20 through June 30.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036)
June 29, 2017
Jchan states US customs will release pallets on July 2, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854)
July 4, 2017
Jchan updates that he has no update.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946)
July 5, 2017
Jchan updates that freight company has picked up the pallets and he hopes to ship the first 100 keyboards within one week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2452350#msg2452350
July 11, 2017
Jchan states he should have the pallets by Friday, July 14, 2017. “Shipping to follow immediately.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366)
July 14, 2017
Jchan states he will receive the pallets on Monday, July 17, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661)
July 19, 2017
Jchan receives the keyboards at his office. He states shipping will begin Monday, July 24, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626)
July 21, 2017
Jchan states he plans to ship 30+ per day and complete all shipping in 10 days.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613)
July 26, 2017
Jchan states he’s been sick, and that shipping will begin tomorrow, July 27, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735)
July 27, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 1” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201)
July 28, 2017
Jchan states his intentions of having all orders shipped by August 4, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304)
July 31, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 2” orders, 26 orders total. States “80-90%” of orders will be shipped by August 4, 2017. Also, this is the first mention of anodization issues. Jchan states he will be using extra units to fulfill those orders, so nobody will be affected.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978)
August 1, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK sent him 200 stabilizers instead of 700, and that he is at fault for not checking the shipment when he received it two months prior. Also states he may be “done with M65-A” after round one.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468484#msg2468484
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468598#msg2468598
Jchan ships “Day 3” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651)
August 2, 2017
Jchan offers to ship boards without stabilizers, for people who don’t want to wait.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469125#msg2469125
Jchan ships “Day 4” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239)
August 4, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK is shipping stabilizers, he has 40 orders packed and ready to go once he receives them.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910)
August 8, 2017
Jchan updates that he will receive stabilizers “next week,” and that he’s “just about done with QC.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118)
August 15, 2017
Jchan updates that he’s been in the hospital because someone close to him is having brain surgery.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476209#msg2476209
States he will not hold a round two.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206)
August 16, 2017
Jchan provides update that he is “done at the hospital,” and will package “15 or so” orders “tonight.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759)
August 17, 2017
Jchan states he prepared 10 orders the previous night, and that they should ship the following day.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062)
August 18, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 5” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667)
August 22, 2017
GMK stabilizers arrive.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311)
August 27, 2017
Jchan states that he has 7 orders being picked up “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841)
August 29, 2017
Jokes about “quitting keyboards” and states intention to package 30 orders “tomorrow.” Later states FedEx arrived “after hours” and that 19 orders will ship “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635)
September 12, 2017
First mention that Jchan has hired someone to take on responsibilities at Keyclack.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829)
September 19, 2017
Updates that things are “stabilizing” and that shipping should start next week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776)
September 23, 2017
Jchan updates that stabilizers are missing screws.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907)
Edit: spelling... sorry am on mobile
Sent from ur mam
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:04:41
"deepthroat"
So cryptic
Considering how earlier on whenever anyone asked for an update they were attacked for being insensitive (some of those attacks were justified due to the posters lack of moral sensitivity). The vast majority were attacked for a fairly reasonable request for a simple post. I don't blame them use of an alt.
Alts are against GH's TOS
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:10:13
He also offered a sincere apology.
I would appreciate it if he came into the thread and extended that apology to the rest of us and if he would be honest with us about what's been happening the last 3 weeks.
Post by: clickstops on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:14:06
Wow this is very detailed but also shows the ride we have been on. Just to let everyone know I did get a pm from Jchan on slack yesterday saying that he is working on everything. He also offered a sincere apology. However that being said I am in the camp that thinks these are not shipped because of issues with the boards. Maybe they are in China getting the anode redone. This is only speculation but after getting the run around for so long that is all i can do is speculate.
If they were all sent back to get the ano redone, why wouldn't he just say that? That would be incredibly understandable as far as group buys go.
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:16:44
Like i said dude im just speculating and its the only thing that makes sense. Dont want to start any rumors but the last update we got he mentioned boards in anode would we delayed due to the holiday in ChinaWow this is very detailed but also shows the ride we have been on. Just to let everyone know I did get a pm from Jchan on slack yesterday saying that he is working on everything. He also offered a sincere apology. However that being said I am in the camp that thinks these are not shipped because of issues with the boards. Maybe they are in China getting the anode redone. This is only speculation but after getting the run around for so long that is all i can do is speculate.
If they were all sent back to get the ano redone, why wouldn't he just say that? That would be incredibly understandable as far as group buys go.
Sent from ur mam
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:25:49
Like i said dude im just speculating and its the only thing that makes sense. Dont want to start any rumors but the last update we got he mentioned boards in anode would we delayed due to the holiday in ChinaWow this is very detailed but also shows the ride we have been on. Just to let everyone know I did get a pm from Jchan on slack yesterday saying that he is working on everything. He also offered a sincere apology. However that being said I am in the camp that thinks these are not shipped because of issues with the boards. Maybe they are in China getting the anode redone. This is only speculation but after getting the run around for so long that is all i can do is speculate.
If they were all sent back to get the ano redone, why wouldn't he just say that? That would be incredibly understandable as far as group buys go.
Sent from ur mam
I feel like most people would totally understand this. /shrug
Post by: Arcsxum on Thu, 12 October 2017, 17:10:50
According to the "updates," approximately 150 of 450 orders have been shipped so far. Jchan received the shipment on July 19th, and has promised many times that shipping would be "quick" and "easy." We are all sympathetic for him and his personal situation, but remember that he presents Keyclack as a small professional business. He stood in front of all of us at the Seattle meetup and boasted about how he "built his business from the ground up," his transition to doing Keyclack full-time, buying a Prius because of it, and how he goes to great lengths to ensure his business exceeds expectations. I'm sure Jchan has spent a fair amount of time in the hospital, and we all respect that, but it seems he spends his free time playing video games and updating instagram about his "BKE Domes" project instead of fulfilling his responsibility to his customers. I'm less than satisfied, and I will not be ordering from Keyclack again.Thanks deepthroat for putting the time and effort for condensing all the relevant dates and updates for us. For those who don't have time to go through the whole thread to find updates, I think this easily shows how long we have been waiting patiently. In addition, I do agree that from a business perspective, it has gone on long enough that it is not insensitive to say that this is unacceptable.
Here's a condensed timeline of "updates" related to shipping and receiving:
Original Timeline
Estimated Group Buy Period : Approximately 10 - 12 Weeks.
January 7 - 11: Accept Submissions
January 12-14: Invoicing
January 17: Invoice Payment Due
January 19: Submit Payment to Manufacturers
About 50 work days later (excluding CNY 1-23 to 2-8 & Freight Time): Bulk Shipment Arrives
About 1 Week: QC for all the parts.
About 3 Days: Shipping
April 24, 2017
Original estimated ship date, April 30, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2410178#msg2410178)
May 3, 2017
New estimate after manufacturer delay, May 12, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2416530#msg2416530)
May 4, 2017 Top Clack
Jchan states he is "discouraged" by people cancelling their orders, but shipping is "not that difficult."
https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s (https://youtu.be/QuFV74SjNxM?t=18m32s)
May 24, 2017
Fulfillment estimate "mid-late June"
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2429459#msg2429459)
June 19, 2017
Jchan states he expects shipment to arrive from forwarding company between approximately June 20 through June 30.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2443036#msg2443036)
June 29, 2017
Jchan states US customs will release pallets on July 2, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2448854#msg2448854)
July 4, 2017
Jchan updates that he has no update.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2451946#msg2451946)
July 5, 2017
Jchan updates that freight company has picked up the pallets and he hopes to ship the first 100 keyboards within one week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2452350#msg2452350
July 11, 2017
Jchan states he should have the pallets by Friday, July 14, 2017. “Shipping to follow immediately.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2456366#msg2456366)
July 14, 2017
Jchan states he will receive the pallets on Monday, July 17, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2458661#msg2458661)
July 19, 2017
Jchan receives the keyboards at his office. He states shipping will begin Monday, July 24, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2461626#msg2461626)
July 21, 2017
Jchan states he plans to ship 30+ per day and complete all shipping in 10 days.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2462613#msg2462613)
July 26, 2017
Jchan states he’s been sick, and that shipping will begin tomorrow, July 27, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2465735#msg2465735)
July 27, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 1” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466201#msg2466201)
July 28, 2017
Jchan states his intentions of having all orders shipped by August 4, 2017.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2466304#msg2466304)
July 31, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 2” orders, 26 orders total. States “80-90%” of orders will be shipped by August 4, 2017. Also, this is the first mention of anodization issues. Jchan states he will be using extra units to fulfill those orders, so nobody will be affected.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2467978#msg2467978)
August 1, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK sent him 200 stabilizers instead of 700, and that he is at fault for not checking the shipment when he received it two months prior. Also states he may be “done with M65-A” after round one.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468484#msg2468484
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468598#msg2468598
Jchan ships “Day 3” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2468651#msg2468651)
August 2, 2017
Jchan offers to ship boards without stabilizers, for people who don’t want to wait.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469125#msg2469125
Jchan ships “Day 4” orders, 29 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469239#msg2469239)
August 4, 2017
Jchan updates that GMK is shipping stabilizers, he has 40 orders packed and ready to go once he receives them.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2469910#msg2469910)
August 8, 2017
Jchan updates that he will receive stabilizers “next week,” and that he’s “just about done with QC.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2472118#msg2472118)
August 15, 2017
Jchan updates that he’s been in the hospital because someone close to him is having brain surgery.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476209#msg2476209
States he will not hold a round two.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476206#msg2476206)
August 16, 2017
Jchan provides update that he is “done at the hospital,” and will package “15 or so” orders “tonight.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2476759#msg2476759)
August 17, 2017
Jchan states he prepared 10 orders the previous night, and that they should ship the following day.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477062#msg2477062)
August 18, 2017
Jchan ships “Day 5” orders, 18 orders total.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2477667#msg2477667)
August 22, 2017
GMK stabilizers arrive.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2479311#msg2479311)
August 27, 2017
Jchan states that he has 7 orders being picked up “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2481841#msg2481841)
August 29, 2017
Jokes about “quitting keyboards” and states intention to package 30 orders “tomorrow.” Later states FedEx arrived “after hours” and that 19 orders will ship “tomorrow.”
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2482635#msg2482635)
September 12, 2017
First mention that Jchan has hired someone to take on responsibilities at Keyclack.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2490829#msg2490829)
September 19, 2017
Updates that things are “stabilizing” and that shipping should start next week.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2494776#msg2494776)
September 23, 2017
Jchan updates that stabilizers are missing screws.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2496907#msg2496907)
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Thu, 12 October 2017, 18:05:27
"deepthroat"
So cryptic
Considering how earlier on whenever anyone asked for an update they were attacked for being insensitive (some of those attacks were justified due to the posters lack of moral sensitivity). The vast majority were attacked for a fairly reasonable request for a simple post. I don't blame them use of an alt.
Jchan threatened to cancel my order unless I stopped posting/commenting. I never mentioned a refund and declined repeatedly when he kept pushing the "offer." He even told me to "search the aftermarket" (he's the most vocal vendor against the "evils of the aftermarket") for an M65-A if I "can't appreciate the time and care that [he's] putting into this."
He accused me of "harassing" him on Geekhack to the point of causing him an "emotional breakdown." If you look at my post history (in this thread and on the Master Control Rebirth GB thread), you'll see that I only ever asked for updates whenever there was yet another missed deadline without any news in the days that followed. Sure, I was a little snarky in maybe one or two comments, but I've since looked at all my posts here and maintain that nothing I said or asked was out of line for a customer dealing with a business.
I stopped commenting on all Keyclack/Jchan threads for fear of having my order cancelled without my consent (guess his threat worked) and because of the potential backlash from the "community."
I can send (in private messages, of course) screenshots of the email conversation between myself and Keyclack if anyone is curious/skeptical. Not a fan of drama, pitchforks, and witchhunts so I'd rather not post all that here.
"All people wanted was keyboards"
- JChan94, 27 days ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/70cq8u/ics_response_to_md/dn27v02/
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 12 October 2017, 18:24:49
At one point jchan was asked about his new hire, and if he could ship out the M65-As and the response given was:
Hi,
the new hire is charge of:
- Support (emails to support@keyclack.com NOT jchan@keyclack.com)
- Helping organizing / maintaining the office
- Shipping Store / Newly incoming things (muted, 1965 up and coming)
- QC soon.
The M65A is a little too complex at this stage of training. It's only been a little over a week since I've worked with him.
This response bothered me a LOT. Maybe more than it should but I did my best to ignore it and trust in the reputation jchan has in this community.
Hear me out and then tell me if I'm wrong to be bothered by this.
When jchan discovered he was short on stabs he dedicated his time to doing purely QC on all the units. I assumed this was so every unit would be ready to ship once the stabs arrived. Remember, he was only missing 2u stabs, each box would get the same number of 2u stabs and be ready to go.
Day 4 is done.
Day 5 will be dedicated towards pure QC, and putting units away and documentation to get fixed up a little. Just need to make sure they are actual issues, and clean them up with some 120grit sand paper (jk).
Day 2,3,4 emails will be sent today. Sorry, haven't had a moment to catch a breath.
- Quality Control should finish by Monday/Tuesday for all the boards.
The stabs should be here soon, and QA/QC is almost done with.
News Update
Just about done with QC.
Also, I'm finishing up QC and then finishing shipping what I have. It's a lot sorting for those opting out of stabs and those in, and such. Literally a stack here with people who want stabs.
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Here it seems like jchan is finishing up a 2nd round of QC for the boards. Double check, I can get with that.
but then...
Oh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date. My concern isn't about missing the original timeline - I really never expected that to be met even though Jchan was super optimistic (During the announcement he talked about how this GB won't have delays like the others). It's the constant "Will ship next week - [one or two weeks of silence] - [New unexpected delay] Will ship next week" - [one or two weeks of silence] - Repeat" that's gotten old.
Would much rather have been told to wait till September/October instead of hearing "Will ship this/next week" every couple of weeks since June. Again, just a realistic update instead of an overly optimistic new deadline that'll most likely be missed again anyway.
Hi Anthony,
I've been trying to ship boards every week.
A GB for a quality board is not just
- Design
- Order
- Pay
- Wait
- Ship out.
There is so much more organization involved in the process.
Here are many things that I do on the back end
- Talk to Customs
- Talk to a Customs Broker
- Wait for the shipment
- Make wire transfer for payments
- Ask for updates on the shipment
- Organize people's orders
- Refund people's cancels
- Adjust people's orders
- Send replacements/support stuff / email stuff / change emails
- QC 450 boards (over 1200 pieces, plate, weight, etc)
But there's a tad more to the QC process. You've seen how the boards are packed, but I also have to open the boxes, throw away the other boxes, make sure there's enough room in my dumpster, and such.
While I don't want to bore people with the little things that I do, I feel like it's now necessary to tell you that there is a lot of trash that I have to take care of with this. The boxes for this took me 4 trips to the recycling center in my Prius because I couldn't fit them all.
I also had to take 2 trips to DHL to drop off the parts that are bad because I had to pack them well in a lot of wrap to make sure they don't get damaged in transit, and try to compact them so I don't pay thousands in express air fees. Please also remember that it takes me time to load my car, move the boxes, reorganize, and such to stay optimal and efficient.
Anthony - I want to reiterate that there's a lot more to a GB than just shipping a board. A lot of people try to hide this process because it's boring and these details are not that important. I understand your frustration, but please understand that I'm frustrated that I don't have enough hours in my day to get everything out.
I hope this helps shed a little more light to what GB runners go through, and I hope people empathize with the process and stress that it takes for us to do this kind of stuff. I hope this in no way discourages people from running their own Buys, but it's definitely taken a toll on me.
Here, in order to explain the delays, jchan makes a list of tasks that are irrelevant to the delay (design, order, pay wait, etc..) all the way to tasks that should've been taken care of through the process of 2 rounds of QC.
At this point, I expected all of the boards to be QC'd, boxed up and ready to ship once a set of 2u stabs were thrown in the box... something that maybe a new hire is capable of doing?
But jchan says that this order is too complex for the new hire. It's just not making sense to me.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 12 October 2017, 19:30:51
Post by: networkdrift on Thu, 12 October 2017, 19:44:49
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 12 October 2017, 20:58:16
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 12 October 2017, 21:57:50
Surely this analysis will put no more stress on a college-aged kid
I'm assuming jchan was born in 94 - he is an adult.
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 12 October 2017, 23:10:59
Surely this analysis will put no more stress on a college-aged kid
jchan is a college graduated man that started a bonafide business as his full time job.
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 12 October 2017, 23:27:52
Post by: therealmckellar on Thu, 12 October 2017, 23:29:23
Surely this analysis will put no more stress on a college-aged kidRiiiiiight. He graduated college. He started a business. He lives in the real world. You start a business you deal with stress, you communicate with your customers, you don't shut down operations for weeks and drop off the face of the earth (well, really only this thread, he's posted fine in other threads). Im the real world that's how you make sure your business closes.
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Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 13 October 2017, 01:44:51
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
I concur. I'd also appreciate an update though.
Post by: gizmoplex on Fri, 13 October 2017, 01:54:09
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
Bit of a headstand on my desk is always gud, thanks fam. Absolutely stunning keebs!
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:14:03
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:29:43
Post by: dohmain on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:34:56
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
Throughout the delays a few people that have received theirs have said the same thing.
I don't have a problem with waiting, and I think that is the same with most people (or I would imagine there would be a flood of people asking for refunds)...
The problems I have are with the inconsistencies in his updates (which I have ignored until now) and his lack of updates on this particular buy while he took the time to update other threads (which is what prompted me to speak up after being silent until now).
The M65-A is (as far as I know) jchan's biggest buy, his most expensive, and his most hyped and delayed product. And yet, this was the one he ignored that day when he made updates.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:55:18
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
Throughout the delays a few people that have received theirs have said the same thing.
I don't have a problem with waiting, and I think that is the same with most people (or I would imagine there would be a flood of people asking for refunds)...
The problems I have are with the inconsistencies in his updates (which I have ignored until now) and his lack of updates on this particular buy while he took the time to update other threads (which is what prompted me to speak up after being silent until now).
The M65-A is (as far as I know) jchan's biggest buy, his most expensive, and his most hyped and delayed product. And yet, this was the one he ignored that day when he made updates.
I can't imagine the amount of pressure jchan must feel at this point, both from a life side, and keeb/business side - everyone wants updates, and many of us are begging even for a "nothing new" update. In reality, however, any update he makes, short of "all boards are being shipped today" will be met with some criticism.
I am fortunate enough to not really need my $350 currently, and will gladly wait as long as needed(even well into 2018 if that's what it takes), because this is the best board I've ever seen. It is a bit concerning if refunds are not being processed in a timely manner though - this might lead to a panic for some people, which will only detract from the situation.
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:57:31
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
Throughout the delays a few people that have received theirs have said the same thing.
I don't have a problem with waiting, and I think that is the same with most people (or I would imagine there would be a flood of people asking for refunds)...
The problems I have are with the inconsistencies in his updates (which I have ignored until now) and his lack of updates on this particular buy while he took the time to update other threads (which is what prompted me to speak up after being silent until now).
The M65-A is (as far as I know) jchan's biggest buy, his most expensive, and his most hyped and delayed product. And yet, this was the one he ignored that day when he made updates.
I can't imagine the amount of pressure jchan must feel at this point, both from a life side, and keeb/business side - everyone wants updates, and many of us are begging even for a "nothing new" update. In reality, however, any update he makes, short of "all boards are being shipped today" will be met with some criticism.
I am fortunate enough to not really need my $350 currently, and will gladly wait as long as needed(even well into 2018 if that's what it takes), because this is the best board I've ever seen. It is a bit concerning if refunds are not being processed in a timely manner though - this might lead to a panic for some people, which will only detract from the situation.
I feel for Jchan. I do feel a little panicked though. Not too sure what to do at the moment.
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:17:56
I feel for Jchan. I do feel a little panicked though. Not too sure what to do at the moment.
There's been three full pages of complaining but what it all boils down to is:
a) We wait and get our boards/refunds.
b) We wait and all get Ivan'd.
It sucks, but those are our options unless you're going to drive to LA and drag jchan to FedEx by the ear.
Also, people posting with alts and spreading vitriol is just dragging the forum down and souring the whole thing even further. Jchan's reputation was one of the reasons I was willing to take a chance on this in the first place. I'm confident he's acutely aware that reputation is burning by the day. If he intends to continue with KeyClack he'll try and stop that ASAP. If not, see option B above.
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:22:28
I feel for Jchan. I do feel a little panicked though. Not too sure what to do at the moment.
There's been three full pages of complaining but what it all boils down to is:
a) We wait and get our boards/refunds.
b) We wait and all get Ivan'd.
It sucks, but those are our options unless you're going to drive to LA and drag jchan to FedEx by the ear.
Also, people posting with alts and spreading vitriol is just dragging the forum down and souring the whole thing even further. Jchan's reputation was one of the reasons I was willing to take a chance on this in the first place. I'm confident he's acutely aware that reputation is burning by the day. If he intends to continue with KeyClack he'll try and stop that ASAP. If not, see option B above.
I'm somewhat new to the community and I keep seeing these references to Ivan. What happened?
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:24:51
I'm somewhat new to the community and I keep seeing these references to Ivan. What happened?
Before my time too, but basically a longstanding community member with good reputation collected a bunch of cash for a GB and then vanished.
Post by: Rafa_n on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:31:44
I feel for Jchan. I do feel a little panicked though. Not too sure what to do at the moment.
There's been three full pages of complaining but what it all boils down to is:
a) We wait and get our boards/refunds.
b) We wait and all get Ivan'd.
It sucks, but those are our options unless you're going to drive to LA and drag jchan to FedEx by the ear.
Also, people posting with alts and spreading vitriol is just dragging the forum down and souring the whole thing even further. Jchan's reputation was one of the reasons I was willing to take a chance on this in the first place. I'm confident he's acutely aware that reputation is burning by the day. If he intends to continue with KeyClack he'll try and stop that ASAP. If not, see option B above.
I'm somewhat new to the community and I keep seeing these references to Ivan. What happened?
VERY popular GB runner is running multiple gbs at the same time, has a personal problem, starts to come less and less to geekhack, breaks communication, runs of with thousands of dollars of group buy money.
Jchan is at the "slowly coming less and less to GH" phase
Post by: dohmain on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:35:38
In my opinion this keyboard is totally worth waiting for.
Throughout the delays a few people that have received theirs have said the same thing.
I don't have a problem with waiting, and I think that is the same with most people (or I would imagine there would be a flood of people asking for refunds)...
The problems I have are with the inconsistencies in his updates (which I have ignored until now) and his lack of updates on this particular buy while he took the time to update other threads (which is what prompted me to speak up after being silent until now).
The M65-A is (as far as I know) jchan's biggest buy, his most expensive, and his most hyped and delayed product. And yet, this was the one he ignored that day when he made updates.
I can't imagine the amount of pressure jchan must feel at this point, both from a life side, and keeb/business side - everyone wants updates, and many of us are begging even for a "nothing new" update. In reality, however, any update he makes, short of "all boards are being shipped today" will be met with some criticism.
I am fortunate enough to not really need my $350 currently, and will gladly wait as long as needed(even well into 2018 if that's what it takes), because this is the best board I've ever seen. It is a bit concerning if refunds are not being processed in a timely manner though - this might lead to a panic for some people, which will only detract from the situation.
I feel like most of the criticism was due to jchan promising shipping and not following through several times.
"A man is only as good as his word" is the saying.
Something similar was mentioned before, but if jchan came on and said, "hey, let me have some time to deal with this. I can't promise shipping anytime soon but I'll hit you guys back in a month and let you know where we stand." that would be alright in my book.
But as we stand right now, things were supposed to start shipping almost two weeks ago and didn't.
jchan updated his other buys, and ignored this one. I guess this is the one that irks me the most.
You know, if he didn't make any updates on his other buys on Oct2 (and an instagram update on Oct3), then I would probably still be silent thinking, "oh man, maybe there's something that he really has to deal with right now."
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:50:57
VERY popular GB runner is running multiple gbs at the same time, has a personal problem, starts to come less and less to geekhack, breaks communication, runs of with thousands of dollars of group buy money.
Jchan is at the "slowly coming less and less to GH" phase
At least with him there is a name and location for legal recourse. Honestly hope it never gets anywhere near that, of course.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:07:59
.
.
.
SERIOUSLY - take this with a grain of salt (in fact, take all the salt from delayed GB's and take all of it)
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.
.
June/July - jchan hits some unexpected delays with production, stabs, etc. - common in group buys
Late July/August - Boards begin shipping at a decent rate, lots of QC, but movement.
Mid-August - life kicks in HARD, jchan obviously is dealing with a whirlwind of gigantic proportions - it is entirely understandable that he takes a step back for a moment to deal with it.
Late august thru September - Updates trickle in, jchan is dealing with life, and we are all (mostly) understanding
Sept 23rd - jchan's last update to this thread - says m65's will start moving next week
***SPECULATION PART***
through crimereports.com(my largely unverifiable source), there was a burglary reported on the block keyclack's warehouse is located (I won't post it, but it's pretty easy to find with a search) on September 29th around 7PM
I'm speculating that the M65-A's were stolen from Keyclack headquarters.
If this is the case, it would put jchan in an extremely tough situation(on top of life stuff) - especially if they were uninsured/not covered.
The question would arise whether this group buy was done under keyclack, or personally through mr. Chan himself. If it was the former, the legal implications could be crippling for Keyclack, and if it was the latter, crippling for jchan himself.
.
.
.
If I'm being a total moron and causing issues just for speculating, I hope that jchan will say so. Hopefully he can swoop in and clear everything up.
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:18:32
Even if that were true, KeyClack is likely a sole proprietorship which means it would land at jchans feet either way. (There's little legal protection there, contrary to popular belief.)
My question would be why steal them anyway? Pretty useless to most people, not worth much in materials, and virtually impossible to sell without this very small community noticing it.
Then, crooks aren't known for being the brightest or most practical bunch...
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:22:17
Here's my HIGHLY speculative theory of a "worst-case scenario." I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT THIS IS SPECULATION - it is not intended to cast anyone in a negative light (except maybe one unknown individual, which I'll explain), nor is it intended to cause chaos in this thread, speculation ONLY, based on a largely unverifiable source I was able to dig up online.There's no way he did the order personally, you just wouldn't do that when you own a company. If he had a theft he should've come on here and told everyone. This whole dragging it out and ignoring the conversation is going to destroy his company, as it has many others in the past.
.
.
.
SERIOUSLY - take this with a grain of salt (in fact, take all the salt from delayed GB's and take all of it)
.
.
.
June/July - jchan hits some unexpected delays with production, stabs, etc. - common in group buys
Late July/August - Boards begin shipping at a decent rate, lots of QC, but movement.
Mid-August - life kicks in HARD, jchan obviously is dealing with a whirlwind of gigantic proportions - it is entirely understandable that he takes a step back for a moment to deal with it.
Late august thru September - Updates trickle in, jchan is dealing with life, and we are all (mostly) understanding
Sept 23rd - jchan's last update to this thread - says m65's will start moving next week
***SPECULATION PART***
through crimereports.com(my largely unverifiable source), there was a burglary reported on the block keyclack's warehouse is located (I won't post it, but it's pretty easy to find with a search) on September 29th around 7PM
I'm speculating that the M65-A's were stolen from Keyclack headquarters.
If this is the case, it would put jchan in an extremely tough situation(on top of life stuff) - especially if they were uninsured/not covered.
The question would arise whether this group buy was done under keyclack, or personally through mr. Chan himself. If it was the former, the legal implications could be crippling for Keyclack, and if it was the latter, crippling for jchan himself.
.
.
.
If I'm being a total moron and causing issues just for speculating, I hope that jchan will say so. Hopefully he can swoop in and clear everything up.
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Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:33:31
It is a good day.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)
Day 2 is over, and today I got through a lot more than expected.
There are boards that have this small anodization issues, but our amazing manufacturer is going to fix them. The anodization issue is only apparent when you shine light on it a certain direction. But it bugs the hell out of me.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KLYaYVO.jpg)
I should be done with most of the gb this Friday, and then I will be forwarding the units to them, and they will be fixed in a week or two.
Extra units are being used to make sure everyone gets their unit within the GB. After that, the units that come back will be used for extras, and we'll have our r2 colors as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cPaPeRj.jpg)
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:40:17
Recent posts have me panicked too, but look at how big and how many of these things there are. It would have taken a few guys and/or a big-ass truck to run off with so many boxes. That is assuming a thief would even identify these as something of value.It is a good day.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)Day 2 is over, and today I got through a lot more than expected.
There are boards that have this small anodization issues, but our amazing manufacturer is going to fix them. The anodization issue is only apparent when you shine light on it a certain direction. But it bugs the hell out of me.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KLYaYVO.jpg)
I should be done with most of the gb this Friday, and then I will be forwarding the units to them, and they will be fixed in a week or two.
Extra units are being used to make sure everyone gets their unit within the GB. After that, the units that come back will be used for extras, and we'll have our r2 colors as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cPaPeRj.jpg)
If it was stolen, I would suspect someone in this community over anyone else
Post by: squeakypizza on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:42:01
Post by: xondat on Fri, 13 October 2017, 12:49:16
Man, just sent another follow up email practically begging for my money back. Worst part is that I have read receipts when sending email and I certainly know that someone has seen me email. This sucks.
It's possible Keyclack has refunded so many people that they're out of money.
I'm sure Jchan will follow through, it's just the length of time that'll suck.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Fri, 13 October 2017, 15:37:41
Man, just sent another follow up email practically begging for my money back. Worst part is that I have read receipts when sending email and I certainly know that someone has seen me email. This sucks.
Man, I'm sorry to hear the position you're in. Hopefully all this action lately with compel an update out of him soon, almost anything would be better than nothing :(
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:07:09
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:08:58
Speculating solves nothing.
Jchan, I hope you and your family are alright.
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:17:31
Here's my HIGHLY speculative theory of a "worst-case scenario." I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT THIS IS SPECULATION - it is not intended to cast anyone in a negative light (except maybe one unknown individual, which I'll explain), nor is it intended to cause chaos in this thread, speculation ONLY, based on a largely unverifiable source I was able to dig up online.I think we have no other choice but to presume this could be what happened, which changes the perspective when you take into account the absence, and the fact that other threads are being posted on and refund emails are being read but not responded to. The question is why.
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SERIOUSLY - take this with a grain of salt (in fact, take all the salt from delayed GB's and take all of it)
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June/July - jchan hits some unexpected delays with production, stabs, etc. - common in group buys
Late July/August - Boards begin shipping at a decent rate, lots of QC, but movement.
Mid-August - life kicks in HARD, jchan obviously is dealing with a whirlwind of gigantic proportions - it is entirely understandable that he takes a step back for a moment to deal with it.
Late august thru September - Updates trickle in, jchan is dealing with life, and we are all (mostly) understanding
Sept 23rd - jchan's last update to this thread - says m65's will start moving next week
***SPECULATION PART***
through crimereports.com(my largely unverifiable source), there was a burglary reported on the block keyclack's warehouse is located (I won't post it, but it's pretty easy to find with a search) on September 29th around 7PM
I'm speculating that the M65-A's were stolen from Keyclack headquarters.
If this is the case, it would put jchan in an extremely tough situation(on top of life stuff) - especially if they were uninsured/not covered.
The question would arise whether this group buy was done under keyclack, or personally through mr. Chan himself. If it was the former, the legal implications could be crippling for Keyclack, and if it was the latter, crippling for jchan himself.
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If I'm being a total moron and causing issues just for speculating, I hope that jchan will say so. Hopefully he can swoop in and clear everything up.
Unless the crook or team of criminals are aware of this forum or /r/mechanical_keyboard or /r/mechmarket, or one of jchan's Instagram followers, they wouldn't be aware of the value of the product. That means this person, or most reasonably, this team (because of the sheer amount of items/weight), is likely someone amongst us.
But they could also have taken the inventory blindly, as happens in plenty of commercial burglaries and not have even looked at what they were taking, just taking a pallet full of inventory to appraise and sell afterwards.
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Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:20:15
Recent posts have me panicked too, but look at how big and how many of these things there are. It would have taken a few guys and/or a big-ass truck to run off with so many boxes. That is assuming a thief would even identify these as something of value.They could've pulled a truck right up to that location there and loaded the pallet on and been gone in under a minute.It is a good day.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qFDcihq.jpg)Day 2 is over, and today I got through a lot more than expected.
There are boards that have this small anodization issues, but our amazing manufacturer is going to fix them. The anodization issue is only apparent when you shine light on it a certain direction. But it bugs the hell out of me.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KLYaYVO.jpg)
I should be done with most of the gb this Friday, and then I will be forwarding the units to them, and they will be fixed in a week or two.
Extra units are being used to make sure everyone gets their unit within the GB. After that, the units that come back will be used for extras, and we'll have our r2 colors as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cPaPeRj.jpg)
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Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:29:25
This is ridiculous.
Speculating solves nothing.
Jchan, I hope you and your family are alright.
I agree, and sincerely hope that he and his family are ok - just having some fun
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:30:28
There's enough to deal with already without needing a heist sub-plot.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:36:09
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:37:34
Hi everyone,
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
Dude, if you popped in and posted something like this every few days, with a few bits of details, I think most everyone would be satisfied.
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Post by: jjwax on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:39:11
Hi everyone,
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
I truly appreciate the brief update! Hopefully this will put a lot of people at ease!
Post by: Dominathan on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:40:13
Hi everyone,
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
Is all the QCing done?
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:40:52
Hi everyone,
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
Thanks, Jchan.
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:44:04
Sent from ur mam
Post by: clickstops on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:54:54
Here's my HIGHLY speculative theory of a "worst-case scenario." I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT THIS IS SPECULATION - it is not intended to cast anyone in a negative light (except maybe one unknown individual, which I'll explain), nor is it intended to cause chaos in this thread, speculation ONLY, based on a largely unverifiable source I was able to dig up online.
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SERIOUSLY - take this with a grain of salt (in fact, take all the salt from delayed GB's and take all of it)
This is quite a ridiculous post.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 13 October 2017, 17:06:01
Once again no info on whats really going on. Just another I will ship some next week....
Sent from ur mam
Was really hoping for some Ocean's Eleven style heist story.
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 13 October 2017, 17:43:22
Yeah, there's no justification to think that's what's happened, and it's probably best if we just drop it. No need for misinformation to spread.Yes, because your tactics have yielded such tremendous results. No way could anything like that have happened! Like it doesn't happen every day in the real world.
There's enough to deal with already without needing a heist sub-plot.
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Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 13 October 2017, 17:44:31
Once again no info on whats really going on. Just another I will ship some next week....What I don't get is why they can't just be shipped en masse and the extras listed on the site and sold so this can all be done with. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to anything here.
Sent from ur mam
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edit: I pmed you a while back, btw
Post by: FioraCorp on Fri, 13 October 2017, 17:49:50
Hi everyone,...right
I got some message about a robbery happening?
Fortunately, nothing of that sort has happened.
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 13 October 2017, 18:19:47
Yeah, there's no justification to think that's what's happened, and it's probably best if we just drop it. No need for misinformation to spread.Yes, because your tactics have yielded such tremendous results. No way could anything like that have happened! Like it doesn't happen every day in the real world.
There's enough to deal with already without needing a heist sub-plot.
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No need to get your knickers in a twist. People are welcome to write as much fan fiction as they want. Maybe ninjas next time?
Post by: robbles on Fri, 13 October 2017, 18:34:38
...
Ill be shipping as many units as I can in the following week.
If you requested a refund, I'll be processing them tonight.
Sorry for everything.
It would be nice to hear a status update from those who have posted that they are waiting for a refund. Maybe let us know in the next couple of days if your refund went through instead of disappearing.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Sat, 14 October 2017, 23:11:05
Post by: gt1989 on Sat, 14 October 2017, 23:16:16
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Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 14 October 2017, 23:57:35
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 15 October 2017, 02:16:38
Did anyone that requested a refund get it yesterday or today?
No refund yet for the MC Rebirth group buy.
Hoping maybe he’ll get to it today..
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sun, 15 October 2017, 02:36:27
I want to see more pics from the people who got theirs
Lol. I was thinking the same thing.
Post by: imorhi on Sun, 15 October 2017, 16:41:09
SA Hyperfuse
(https://i.imgur.com/rAPTUhh.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/msObOa9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JfTQUPg.jpg)
Great so far...I don't know if it was me or shipping but I'm missing a resistor for the home key and the pipe/backslash doesn't seem to be working either.
Anyone know where I could get a new resistor? Or what I can do to diagnose the other key?
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 15 October 2017, 17:01:57
Excuse my deskspace, I'll clean one day.
SA HyperfuseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/rAPTUhh.jpg?1)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/msObOa9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JfTQUPg.jpg)
Great so far...I don't know if it was me or shipping but I'm missing a resistor for the home key and the pipe/backslash doesn't seem to be working either.
Anyone know where I could get a new resistor? Or what I can do to diagnose the other key?
Do you mean diode? it is my understanding that the resistor is there so the leds don’t get the full 5v from the usb power (which pops them quickly)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1613
Those are probably the right diodes but you should double check the numbers printed on yours.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 15 October 2017, 17:17:23
Excuse my deskspace, I'll clean one day.
SA HyperfuseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/rAPTUhh.jpg?1)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/msObOa9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JfTQUPg.jpg)
Great so far...I don't know if it was me or shipping but I'm missing a resistor for the home key and the pipe/backslash doesn't seem to be working either.
Anyone know where I could get a new resistor? Or what I can do to diagnose the other key?
A picture of the suspected failed component would help/ Failing that, just take a high res shot of the back of the PCB, no one can help you troubleshoot without knowing what the failed component look like.
For what it's worth, resistors are there to facilitate the functioning of LEDs (limiting current). If the actual switch is not registering, it's probably a defective PCB (broken traces) or defective diode.
If it's the diode, you can get a replacement 1N4148W (SOD123 packaging) from your favourite electronic retailer.
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 17 October 2017, 00:25:37
(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 17 October 2017, 00:34:16
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Cool. Where did you get the mouse pad?
Post by: BAS1C on Tue, 17 October 2017, 00:40:13
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Cool. Where did you get the mouse pad?
Also keyclack!
Post by: SakeJams on Tue, 17 October 2017, 02:41:57
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 17 October 2017, 08:04:44
To those who get your board half years ago and saying" be well soon Jchan" **** you. And **** whatever you stand for.
Oh, and to those ****tard who say "you didn't invest anything but money, don't ***** about it" well, money don't ****ing work that way, the value of money is equal to the "work" people "invested" to get the money, and money tends to increase value (positively or negatively). You take the money to a casino and at least you have a possibility of increasing it's value. This project is now becomes one of those dead loan, the value of your invoice keep decreasing since the
uncertainty of the board being delivered is getting higher over time, and we have all the right to chace around the board, not get our cash back, we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain.
Mod Edit: User has been warned for this post
Post by: kmba on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:16:44
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:23:45
I will even consider using the fund from my life insurance of all of my dead family members just to achieve it
:confused: :eek: :-X
Dude
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:31:23
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:33:21
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:41:45
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 17 October 2017, 09:57:56
I will even consider using the fund from my life insurance of all of my dead family members just to achieve it.
:thumb:
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:01:02
Sent from ur mam
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:03:31
Any progress being made on these?
Sent from ur mam
I think we have to chop off our leg or kill a family member to get them, right?
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:04:15
Only if they have life insurance it seems.....Any progress being made on these?
Sent from ur mam
I think we have to chop off our leg or kill a family member to get them, right?
Sent from ur mam
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:17:24
Only if they have life insurance it seems.....Any progress being made on these?
Sent from ur mam
I think we have to chop off our leg or kill a family member to get them, right?
Sent from ur mam
Oh ****, I just axed 2 of my family members and they don't have life insurance! Welp, guess I'll have to wait patiently.
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 11:23:06
After all this time still haven't shipped all board yet. Who the **** don't get bumps in life? If I am in the same situation as he is, or hell, even all of my family, friends and my leg amputated, I will buckle the **** up and ship every single thing that I owned someone no matter how much it cost, I will even consider using the fund from my life insurance of all of my dead family members just to achieve it.Jokes aside i understand your frustration. All we can do at the moment however is wait for a relevant update.
To those who get your board half years ago and saying" be well soon Jchan" **** you. And **** whatever you stand for.
Oh, and to those ****tard who say "you didn't invest anything but money, don't ***** about it" well, money don't ****ing work that way, the value of money is equal to the "work" people "invested" to get the money, and money tends to increase value (positively or negatively). You take the money to a casino and at least you have a possibility of increasing it's value. This project is now becomes one of those dead loan, the value of your invoice keep decreasing since the
uncertainty of the board being delivered is getting higher over time, and we have all the right to chace around the board, not get our cash back, we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain.
Sent from ur mam
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 12:21:11
Combine it all together and you get a statement so ugly and ridiculous that its easier to see it as satire than to believe it comes from a human being sitting behind a keyboard who really believes what they type.
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:21:41
Frustration is one thing. Violating GH TOS for personal attacks and language is another. Not understanding the risks for delay and failure associated with a speculative group buy for a product that has never been produced before is yet another. Admittedly being in the GB for their own profit with little or no consideration for how GBs are only possible through the continued contributions of individuals of this community is icing on the cake.If this was reddit, I'd upvote you so hard.
Combine it all together and you get a statement so ugly and ridiculous that its easier to see it as satire than to believe it comes from a human being sitting behind a keyboard who really believes what they type.
Post by: dohmain on Tue, 17 October 2017, 14:12:06
If this was reddit, I'd upvote you so hard.
your avatar...............
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 14:31:50
After all this time still haven't shipped all board yet. Who the **** don't get bumps in life? If I am in the same situation as he is, or hell, even all of my family, friends and my leg amputated, I will buckle the **** up and ship every single thing that I owned someone no matter how much it cost, I will even consider using the fund from my life insurance of all of my dead family members just to achieve it.
To those who get your board half years ago and saying" be well soon Jchan" **** you. And **** whatever you stand for.
Oh, and to those ****tard who say "you didn't invest anything but money, don't ***** about it" well, money don't ****ing work that way, the value of money is equal to the "work" people "invested" to get the money, and money tends to increase value (positively or negatively). You take the money to a casino and at least you have a possibility of increasing it's value. This project is now becomes one of those dead loan, the value of your invoice keep decreasing since the
uncertainty of the board being delivered is getting higher over time, and we have all the right to chace around the board, not get our cash back, we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain.
Keyboards are purchases, not investments. You may feel entitled to turn a profit, and that is your prerogative, but that DOES NOT mean you are entitled to one.
If you can’t deal with waiting, ask for a refund and invest your money somewhere else. No one is forcing you to wait. jchan will refund you as previously mentioned.
People need to chill. This could be so much worse. You need to realize this is NOT the same as a scam or a similar situation where someone is holding your money hostage. You have been given the option for a refund and best I can tell anyone who has asked has received one.
The real issue is people are flipping m65 for like $600-700 and you want in on that action. That does not suddenly change your circumstances.
The entire concept that waiting somehow decreases the value because “it might not be delivered” is redicuous and baseless. If you are legtimately worried you won’t get your board ask for a refund. If your only concern is losing out on profit when you flip it, well, tbh, **** you and everything you stand for. You think anyone gives 2 ****s that your scalping is going poorly? We are here cause we want the board, not a profit opportunity.
Post by: yokken on Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:12:39
Post by: kitchenace13 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:31:31
Kingpin didn't say he/she was trying to flip an M65-A for profit nor do I think it was intended that way.
He spent half his post talking investments including, what I'm assuming is, an effort to refer to the time-value of money. Literally his last sentence included "we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain".
Post by: Dominathan on Tue, 17 October 2017, 15:43:51
Kingpin didn't say he/she was trying to flip an M65-A for profit nor do I think it was intended that way.
He spent half his post talking investments including, what I'm assuming is, an effort to refer to the time-value of money. Literally his last sentence included "we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain".
I saw that being the investment of time working to make that money, then spending that money to eventually get something down the road. It's an investment until we can realize the gains (receiving the keyboard).
If we were given a more concrete time frame, I feel like a lot of us could easily forget about it and do other stuff. But right now, we're kinda being strung along weekly. We're having to invest our thoughts in this, even if we don't want to. Especially when every new keycap set is shown on this thing. It's like the hobby as a whole keeps teasing us with this thing that's ready to go, but stuck at the last step.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 16:04:40
Shipping will commence now. We'll have about 12 units packaged by the end of the day.
They will be rolling out 2 days out of the week.
Sorry for the mishaps - if you contacted us for a refund, it will be processed today.
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Also, business aside - I think it's important to note that everyone takes things differently. To me - family is everything. I only have 4 family members - my brother, my sister's (2), and my mom. We have cousins/aunts/uncles, but none of which have been around in my life, if at all. This is in fact the first time I've had any instance of "death" come near me to those which I love.
Tldr: I'm sorry that my personal life has affected business as usual.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 October 2017, 16:09:31
Thank you for the postscript window into your life.
I hope you're doing alright.
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 16:15:29
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 16:32:16
Jchan, family should always come first. I was very touched by your speech here in Seattle when you said your mom was very proud of you. I can see how important family is to you, no need to apologize for it.
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Right? I hope more people cancel so I get more chances AND less crying :D
Post by: FioraCorp on Tue, 17 October 2017, 17:43:02
Jchan, family should always come first. I was very touched by your speech here in Seattle when you said your mom was very proud of you. I can see how important family is to you, no need to apologize for it.
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Right? I hope more people cancel so I get more chances AND less crying :D
Gotta say this whole thing cheering for people canceling their orders is pretty lame and self-serving attitude.
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 17 October 2017, 17:52:25
Jchan, family should always come first. I was very touched by your speech here in Seattle when you said your mom was very proud of you. I can see how important family is to you, no need to apologize for it.
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Right? I hope more people cancel so I get more chances AND less crying :D
Gotta say this whole thing cheering for people canceling their orders is pretty lame and self-serving attitude.
Welcome to mechanical keyboards.
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 17 October 2017, 18:30:24
Jchan, family should always come first. I was very touched by your speech here in Seattle when you said your mom was very proud of you. I can see how important family is to you, no need to apologize for it.
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Right? I hope more people cancel so I get more chances AND less crying :D
Gotta say this whole thing cheering for people canceling their orders is pretty lame and self-serving attitude.
Welcome to
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 October 2017, 18:42:07
Jchan, family should always come first. I was very touched by your speech here in Seattle when you said your mom was very proud of you. I can see how important family is to you, no need to apologize for it.
In other news, I'd still love to have a chance at an M65-A. LOL.
Right? I hope more people cancel so I get more chances AND less crying :D
Gotta say this whole thing cheering for people canceling their orders is pretty lame and self-serving attitude.
Welcome to mechanical keyboards.
i've been here for years and it still surprises me
Post by: yonghf on Tue, 17 October 2017, 19:40:06
Post by: xondat on Tue, 17 October 2017, 19:41:22
I just asked for a refund hours before he posted an update :(
If you haven't got it yet, and you still want it, I'd reply to that email and stop that.
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 18 October 2017, 05:15:43
And you are correct. I am just talking about the time value of money. I like the board so much that I already bought switches and caps for it, those delivered on time. I am not going to filp it for literaril money profit no matter what.Kingpin didn't say he/she was trying to flip an M65-A for profit nor do I think it was intended that way.
He spent half his post talking investments including, what I'm assuming is, an effort to refer to the time-value of money. Literally his last sentence included "we(I) am not that kind of a person to throw money into project with 0 or negative gain".
And about the family part, I am being literaril and not pointing it to Jchan rather they people who say "I put family at my top priority (therefore the action of affecting other's is justified)" and already received the board. Again, IF my family (about 15 people including my mother, father, my two grandmother, my mother's saplings and their child) all die in the middle of a important work, I will still finish the work first, because they are dead, my project isn't.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 18 October 2017, 05:35:41
IF my family (about 15 people including my mother, father, my two grandmother, my mother's saplings and their child) all die in the middle of a important work, I will still finish the work first, because they are dead, my project isn't.
You are wrong to expect everyone to operate the same way that you do. I'm not saying how you would handle that situation is wrong, but despite disagreeing you should be a supportive member of the community.
Ask JChan if there is any way you can help him with what is clearly a difficult and impactful struggle for him, not tell him how he can serve you better. Because this isn't a business, it's a community.
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 18 October 2017, 05:59:55
"These Terms of Service have been executed and delivered by you and constitute a valid and binding agreement between you and Keyclack Inc."IF my family (about 15 people including my mother, father, my two grandmother, my mother's saplings and their child) all die in the middle of a important work, I will still finish the work first, because they are dead, my project isn't.
You are wrong to expect everyone to operate the same way that you do. I'm not saying how you would handle that situation is wrong, but despite disagreeing you should be a supportive member of the community.
Ask JChan if there is any way you can help him with what is clearly a difficult and impactful struggle for him, not tell him how he can serve you better. Because this isn't a business, it's a community.
"Inc. may refer to:
Incorporation (business), an abbreviation of Incorporation, a suffix indicating a corporation" -wikipedia
https://www.keyclack.com/terms
More questions?
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 18 October 2017, 06:14:00
More Questions?
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 18 October 2017, 06:17:13
You're not talking about the actions of the owner or proprietor of Keyclack, you are talking about the actions of a community member of a forum. You aren't demanding updates from Keyclack and insinuating their family is less important than your time, you are making that demand of a community member. Of a forum. If you have a problem with a transaction you made through Keyclack I suggest you communicate that to them. This is a community, as I stated earlier. Not Keyclack. Not a business.geekhack » geekhack Marketplace » Vendor Forums » KeyClack (Moderator: jchan94) » [GB] M65-A | Made with RAMA.WORKS
More Questions?
I thought we were in a Vendor Forum.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 18 October 2017, 06:21:52
geekhack » geekhack Marketplace » Vendor Forums » KeyClack (Moderator: jchan94) » [GB] M65-A | Made with RAMA.WORKS
I thought we were in a Vendor Forum.
Yeah, a forum, a community space for discussion. I'm not going to continue to argue semantics with you. I think it's unfair of you to say that JChans pain is less important than your time, and because I view this as a community, one that I care about and want to be a part of, I don't appreciate your callousness and feel obligated to address it directly.
You're being a ****. Your time isn't valuable enough to justify it.
Post by: KINGPIN on Wed, 18 October 2017, 06:50:42
Let me ask you some questions.geekhack » geekhack Marketplace » Vendor Forums » KeyClack (Moderator: jchan94) » [GB] M65-A | Made with RAMA.WORKS
I thought we were in a Vendor Forum.
Yeah, a forum, a community space for discussion. I'm not going to continue to argue semantics with you. I think it's unfair of you to say that JChans pain is less important than your time, and because I view this as a community, one that I care about and want to be a part of, I don't appreciate your callousness and feel obligated to address it directly.
You're being a ****. Your time isn't valuable enough to justify it.
What makes you feel when you are left out?
What makes you feel when most of the board's were shipped but not yours?
What makes you feel when there are a indifference of treatment on people?
Is that "valuable" enough to justify it?
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:11:27
I haven’t gotten a response to any of my e-mails, yet I noticed a few select people have received a refund around the same time I sent my e-mail, earlier on this month.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:17:11
Let me ask you some questions.
What makes you feel when you are left out?
What makes you feel when most of the board's were shipped but not yours?
What makes you feel when there are a indifference of treatment on people?
Is that "valuable" enough to justify it?
I didn't actually think you would have questions when I asked rhetorically if you had more questions. Cute.
First off though, is what valuable enough to justify it? You haven't presented anything of value in the questions or implied expected answers to justify anything.
But to answer your absurdly vague questions:
How do you feel when you are left out?:
In the context of waiting for a toy, when I feel left out, I demonstrate a modicum patience knowing I will get my toy eventually, and because it is just a toy, not having it literally doesn't change my life at all. Zero impact to my life. And if I am worried I won't get my toy, or the financial burden is so great that I can't afford to have bought it, retroactively, because in that scenario it means that I wouldn't have been able to afford buying it in the first place, and did anyways (no judgement, I've been there; VE.A anybody? Top Ramen for days.), I ask for a refund.
How do you feel when most of the board's were shipped, but not yours?
When most of the boards have shipped, but mine hasn't, it doesn't register any feelings at all, because it doesn't have any emotional impact, it's just a fact, like 'milk is white'. 'My board hasn't shipped yet. When it does, I will get it'. White milk.
How you feel when people are treated differently?
Your third question is so philosophically vague that I can't even answer it contextually. No one is being treated differently. Having to wait longer for your toy because it was shipped at a different time than someone else's toy doesn't really qualify as being treated differently.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:22:31
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:24:26
You're both talking to a wall.
That's the problem with ego, it's hard to walk away from... Clearly for both he and I.
Post by: pshofosho on Wed, 18 October 2017, 08:07:49
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 18 October 2017, 08:38:53
Also I feel like this is worth noting from the dome thread.
Kind of interested, but when would they be shipped considering everything?
We're clearing everything up soon.
We have other things coming in, but the bigger projects (m65a, 1965) are left up to me, where the store (retail like this, and stock we have on hand) is handled by my employee.
Cheers, thanks Xondat. GL on your gb btw.
edit for Clarity: Retail is immediately available and ships in 1-3 business days after purchase. This includes domes, and other sets we have on hand.
Kind of explains why movement is happening with projects a little smaller; he still needs income to keep Keyclack floating, and shipping domes isn't exactly difficult.
I hope jchan coming back is good news :thumb:
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 08:47:17
I just dont know why the employee cant ship m-65 since you have already qcd all the boards...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WTDnnwE.gif)
Also I feel like this is worth noting from the dome thread.Kind of interested, but when would they be shipped considering everything?
We're clearing everything up soon.
We have other things coming in, but the bigger projects (m65a, 1965) are left up to me, where the store (retail like this, and stock we have on hand) is handled by my employee.
Cheers, thanks Xondat. GL on your gb btw.
edit for Clarity: Retail is immediately available and ships in 1-3 business days after purchase. This includes domes, and other sets we have on hand.
Kind of explains why movement is happening with projects a little smaller; he still needs income to keep Keyclack floating, and shipping domes isn't exactly difficult.
I hope jchan coming back is good news :thumb:
Sent from ur mam
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 18 October 2017, 09:25:21
I just dont know why the employee cant ship m-65 since you have already qcd all the boards...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WTDnnwE.gif)
Also I feel like this is worth noting from the dome thread.Kind of interested, but when would they be shipped considering everything?
We're clearing everything up soon.
We have other things coming in, but the bigger projects (m65a, 1965) are left up to me, where the store (retail like this, and stock we have on hand) is handled by my employee.
Cheers, thanks Xondat. GL on your gb btw.
edit for Clarity: Retail is immediately available and ships in 1-3 business days after purchase. This includes domes, and other sets we have on hand.
Kind of explains why movement is happening with projects a little smaller; he still needs income to keep Keyclack floating, and shipping domes isn't exactly difficult.
I hope jchan coming back is good news :thumb:
Sent from ur mam
Did he say that? I never recall an update saying that all QC has been done.
Post by: avid on Wed, 18 October 2017, 09:30:33
Did he say that? I never recall an update saying that all QC has been done.
Wait a minute... your name isn't Juan.
News Update
Just about done with QC.
Shipment of stabs comes in next week, as it's clearing customs now, and is actually in the air.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:38:26
Did he say that? I never recall an update saying that all QC has been done.Wait a minute... your name isn't Juan.
News Update
Just about done with QC.
Shipment of stabs comes in next week, as it's clearing customs now, and is actually in the air.
That doesn't say done, though, does it?
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Wed, 18 October 2017, 11:16:37
Adding to deepthroat's post, there is something that's been bothering me about the some of the updates we've been given. I've just been trying to ignore it, but at this point why not just air it out?
At one point jchan was asked about his new hire, and if he could ship out the M65-As and the response given was:Hi,
the new hire is charge of:
- Support (emails to support@keyclack.com NOT jchan@keyclack.com)
- Helping organizing / maintaining the office
- Shipping Store / Newly incoming things (muted, 1965 up and coming)
- QC soon.
The M65A is a little too complex at this stage of training. It's only been a little over a week since I've worked with him.
This response bothered me a LOT. Maybe more than it should but I did my best to ignore it and trust in the reputation jchan has in this community.
Hear me out and then tell me if I'm wrong to be bothered by this.
When jchan discovered he was short on stabs he dedicated his time to doing purely QC on all the units. I assumed this was so every unit would be ready to ship once the stabs arrived. Remember, he was only missing 2u stabs, each box would get the same number of 2u stabs and be ready to go.Day 4 is done.
Day 5 will be dedicated towards pure QC, and putting units away and documentation to get fixed up a little. Just need to make sure they are actual issues, and clean them up with some 120grit sand paper (jk).
Day 2,3,4 emails will be sent today. Sorry, haven't had a moment to catch a breath.- Quality Control should finish by Monday/Tuesday for all the boards.The stabs should be here soon, and QA/QC is almost done with.News Update
Just about done with QC.Also, I'm finishing up QC and then finishing shipping what I have. It's a lot sorting for those opting out of stabs and those in, and such. Literally a stack here with people who want stabs.Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
Here it seems like jchan is finishing up a 2nd round of QC for the boards. Double check, I can get with that.
but then...Oh, of course. I was in the GMK Keyboard & Co GB for about a year and production hasn't even started yet. Out of the dozens of GBs I've been in, only one has ever met the initial ship date. My concern isn't about missing the original timeline - I really never expected that to be met even though Jchan was super optimistic (During the announcement he talked about how this GB won't have delays like the others). It's the constant "Will ship next week - [one or two weeks of silence] - [New unexpected delay] Will ship next week" - [one or two weeks of silence] - Repeat" that's gotten old.
Would much rather have been told to wait till September/October instead of hearing "Will ship this/next week" every couple of weeks since June. Again, just a realistic update instead of an overly optimistic new deadline that'll most likely be missed again anyway.
Hi Anthony,
I've been trying to ship boards every week.
A GB for a quality board is not just
- Design
- Order
- Pay
- Wait
- Ship out.
There is so much more organization involved in the process.
Here are many things that I do on the back end
- Talk to Customs
- Talk to a Customs Broker
- Wait for the shipment
- Make wire transfer for payments
- Ask for updates on the shipment
- Organize people's orders
- Refund people's cancels
- Adjust people's orders
- Send replacements/support stuff / email stuff / change emails
- QC 450 boards (over 1200 pieces, plate, weight, etc)
But there's a tad more to the QC process. You've seen how the boards are packed, but I also have to open the boxes, throw away the other boxes, make sure there's enough room in my dumpster, and such.
While I don't want to bore people with the little things that I do, I feel like it's now necessary to tell you that there is a lot of trash that I have to take care of with this. The boxes for this took me 4 trips to the recycling center in my Prius because I couldn't fit them all.
I also had to take 2 trips to DHL to drop off the parts that are bad because I had to pack them well in a lot of wrap to make sure they don't get damaged in transit, and try to compact them so I don't pay thousands in express air fees. Please also remember that it takes me time to load my car, move the boxes, reorganize, and such to stay optimal and efficient.
Anthony - I want to reiterate that there's a lot more to a GB than just shipping a board. A lot of people try to hide this process because it's boring and these details are not that important. I understand your frustration, but please understand that I'm frustrated that I don't have enough hours in my day to get everything out.
I hope this helps shed a little more light to what GB runners go through, and I hope people empathize with the process and stress that it takes for us to do this kind of stuff. I hope this in no way discourages people from running their own Buys, but it's definitely taken a toll on me.
Here, in order to explain the delays, jchan makes a list of tasks that are irrelevant to the delay (design, order, pay wait, etc..) all the way to tasks that should've been taken care of through the process of 2 rounds of QC.
At this point, I expected all of the boards to be QC'd, boxed up and ready to ship once a set of 2u stabs were thrown in the box... something that maybe a new hire is capable of doing?
But jchan says that this order is too complex for the new hire. It's just not making sense to me.
Post by: cooperred on Wed, 18 October 2017, 12:58:07
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 18 October 2017, 13:25:03
Sounds like QC isn't done. If it's done, I can't imagine that packing and dropping boxes off to FedEx can be that complicated for an employee to do.
That was my point.
Post by: dohmain on Wed, 18 October 2017, 14:38:34
Sounds like QC isn't done. If it's done, I can't imagine that packing and dropping boxes off to FedEx can be that complicated for an employee to do.
That was my point.
First, I'm gonna say again that I have no problems waiting. I understand jchan is in a stressful situation and when I joined the buy I understood there could be complications just like any other gb.
What I do have a problem with is being given the runaround with explanations that just don't make sense.
Running through another series of QC just to make sure some stuff isn't missed.
Calling DHL to pick up the unaccepted units to go back to Asia to get fixed later this week.
A bunch of units are just sitting here, ready to go, just waiting for the stabs. Just want to have it all here.
Thanks for your patience.
QC is not done but he still calls DHL to pick up the unacceptable units?
Regarding some parts that are in Asia currently for reanodization - they are being fixed up but due to some week long holiday in the beginning of October those will be delayed.
Sounds like the units that failed QC are in Asia for reano.
Just going off by the updates that jchan has provided, I can only assume QC has been completed.
It just makes sense to QC everything and gather all of the failed units to ship all together.
It consolidates shipping and it also makes sense for the anodizing factory to receive the entire order in one go.
So, from my viewpoint QC is either not done and jchan has been giving us fake updates to string us along for whatever reason. Or QC is done and shipping is not happening for some other reason.
All I expect is an honest update on the status of the group buy.
Post by: Madēo on Wed, 18 October 2017, 14:40:56
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional.
Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:07:58
This is my first post on this thread and I've been holding myself back for some time but it's now getting really infuriating.
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional. Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
Wait... he "promised" you 30% of group buy profits? Nice. That's a pretty sweet deal. I do hope you got something in writing, though.
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:09:57
Post by: avid on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:20:16
This is my first post on this thread and I've been holding myself back for some time but it's now getting really infuriating.
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional. Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
Wait... he "promised" you 30% of group buy profits? Nice. That's a pretty sweet deal. I do hope you got something in writing, though.
No, 30% of the profits made from extras sale.
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:37:03
As a future gb member: "jchan presents..." Nope, Nope, Nope.
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:42:28
This is my first post on this thread and I've been holding myself back for some time but it's now getting really infuriating.
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional. Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
This is horrible to hear and I hope JChan makes things right.
The lack of updates and false promises is indeed frustrating.
I’ve messaged JChan/Support a few times this month concerning the status of my refund for the MC Rebirth group buy, but never received a reply.
He posted stating he was going to handle refunds last week, but I received nothing.
Said he was going to handle refunds yesterday. Nothing yet. :(
I don’t think JChan is the type to swindle people, however I’d appreciate if he’d stay true to his word, as a few minutes of assistance can go a long way.
My biggest fear is the next group buy where someone goes MIA due to X situation. Some people wouldn’t notice until it’s too late. For future buys, keep in mind the 6 month PayPal protection window and how you have to be within 365 days for complaints to the Better Business Bureau (This only applies to accredited businesses).
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:46:15
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:13:02
This is my first post on this thread and I've been holding myself back for some time but it's now getting really infuriating.
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional. Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
This is horrible to hear and I hope JChan makes things right.
The lack of updates and false promises is indeed frustrating.
I’ve messaged JChan/Support a few times this month concerning the status of my refund for the MC Rebirth group buy, but never received a reply.
He posted stating he was going to handle refunds last week, but I received nothing.
Said he was going to handle refunds yesterday. Nothing yet. :(
I don’t think JChan is the type to swindle people, however I’d appreciate if he’d stay true to his word, as a few minutes of assistance can go a long way.
My biggest fear is the next group buy where someone goes MIA due to X situation. Some people wouldn’t notice until it’s too late. For future buys, keep in mind the 6 month PayPal protection window and how you have to be within 365 days for complaints to the Better Business Bureau (This only applies to accredited businesses).
Hi,
I haven't processed that one because we're still waiting on resolution, but we did now.
---
Regarding Budapest: we're still not sold out of it. We have about 10 complete (40s / tkl sets) on hand still, and once those are done with, the payment will be going to you Madeo, the designer of Budapest.
---
Hope this clears things up regardless of how this looks.
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:27:34
Any m-65 progress?This is my first post on this thread and I've been holding myself back for some time but it's now getting really infuriating.
I didn't want to complain because I respect Jchan's personal matters and difficulties but the lack of communication has become absurd.
Not only am I still waiting for the M-65 but I still haven't received my Grand Budapest, the set which I designed ! .... because I had asked Jchan way back to ship them together. I have emailed him twice already and all I got was a vague 'it might take a while'. I'm sorry but it's already two months overdue and we still have no idea when they're shipping!? This is really unprofessional. Oh and btw, Jchan had also promised me 30% of the profit on the Grand Budapest extras sale, that never came in either. I respect your situation Jchan, I have never complained before but now it's just coming off as dishonest. Apologies for the rant--
This is horrible to hear and I hope JChan makes things right.
The lack of updates and false promises is indeed frustrating.
I’ve messaged JChan/Support a few times this month concerning the status of my refund for the MC Rebirth group buy, but never received a reply.
He posted stating he was going to handle refunds last week, but I received nothing.
Said he was going to handle refunds yesterday. Nothing yet. :(
I don’t think JChan is the type to swindle people, however I’d appreciate if he’d stay true to his word, as a few minutes of assistance can go a long way.
My biggest fear is the next group buy where someone goes MIA due to X situation. Some people wouldn’t notice until it’s too late. For future buys, keep in mind the 6 month PayPal protection window and how you have to be within 365 days for complaints to the Better Business Bureau (This only applies to accredited businesses).
Hi,
I haven't processed that one because we're still waiting on resolution, but we did now.
---
Regarding Budapest: we're still not sold out of it. We have about 10 complete (40s / tkl sets) on hand still, and once those are done with, the payment will be going to you Madeo, the designer of Budapest.
---
Hope this clears things up regardless of how this looks.
Sent from ur mam
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:40:06
Emails were sent out to those who got tracking already.
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 18 October 2017, 18:41:04
Post by: zaerst on Wed, 18 October 2017, 19:00:47
Post by: thechadhimself on Wed, 18 October 2017, 19:56:49
Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here waiting and hoping to see one of these kits on mechmarket someday ;)
Post by: seblove on Wed, 18 October 2017, 22:14:50
Post by: msilvv on Thu, 19 October 2017, 00:15:24
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Post by: Madēo on Thu, 19 October 2017, 04:47:59
Quote
Hi,
I haven't processed that one because we're still waiting on resolution, but we did now.
---
Regarding Budapest: we're still not sold out of it. We have about 10 complete (40s / tkl sets) on hand still, and once those are done with, the payment will be going to you Madeo, the designer of Budapest.
---
Hope this clears things up regardless of how this looks.
Thanks for the update, good to hear :thumb:
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 07:48:51
Sent from ur mam
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 19 October 2017, 16:34:32
So ive said a few times that I thought the delay was due to bunk boards. Everyone jumped and said I was wrong. Well apparently someone talked to jchan the other night and the delay is indeed the manufacturer. I think everyone in the buy deserves the truth.
Sent from ur mam
I'm on the other side of that. We only deserve what we bought, IMO. And in the event of lateness, we deserve a timeline when that will happen. Anything else he offers up is his choice.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 17:52:17
Just a little update. We got the units we sent back from reanodization yesterday and today, and I'm a tad disappointed at the finish. These were units we sent back to get repaired from initial issues we saw.
There are some anodization issues. Here is the most prevalent issue, that bugs me very much. It's hard to capture in photo, but at certain angles of light, you can see that there is some type of different color shine to these. The issue is not just that tiny mark, but it's across the whole back side of the board. The base piece better represents the issue that we're seeing, but it's more prevalent on the top piece.
After a heated discussion this week with the manufacturer, we came to the conclusion that they would remake the units affected, and also fix the units we send back to them (for a second attempt to reanodize).
In order to hurdle over this issue, we've order more units to make sure we are 100% good to go. These will take 3 weeks to get to us. This was done in case I discover more units that have this issue as I repackage them to send out.
Again to Note: this issue is apparent a long the whole backside, but is hard to capture in a photo and is apparent in the units they sent back to us. This is the most common issue we found on the units received and I'm reviewing the pieces we have on hand.
If I would describe it, its something a long the lines of, a darker stain that shouldn't be there.
(https://i.imgur.com/eOBbdbV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kFiF824.jpg)
A note on the remaining units
We're working on pumping out about a few every day to make sure they arrive properly. USPS has given us some issues with some we sent out, and to this date, there are a total of 5 orders that have gone missing: 1 from FedEx, and 4 from USPS.
Nothing more is needed from you except some more patience, as I plan to deliver a high quality keyboard to your fingers.
If you have concerns, just email support@keyclack.com for refunds, or what have you.
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 17:56:16
Hi everyone,Very najs update. Thanks dude
Just a little update. We got the units we sent back from reanodization yesterday and today, and I'm a tad disappointed at the finish. These were units we sent back to get repaired from initial issues we saw.
There are some anodization issues. Here is the most prevalent issue, that bugs me very much. It's hard to capture in photo, but at certain angles of light, you can see that there is some type of different color shine to these. The issue is not just that tiny mark, but it's across the whole back side of the board. The base piece better represents the issue that we're seeing, but it's more prevalent on the top piece.
After a heated discussion this week with the manufacturer, we came to the conclusion that they would remake the units affected, and also fix the units we send back to them (for a second attempt to reanodize).
In order to hurdle over this issue, we've order more units to make sure we are 100% good to go. These will take 3 weeks to get to us. This was done in case I discover more units that have this issue as I repackage them to send out.
Again to Note: this issue is apparent a long the whole backside, but is hard to capture in a photo and is apparent in the units they sent back to us. This is the most common issue we found on the units received and I'm reviewing the pieces we have on hand.
If I would describe it, its something a long the lines of, a darker stain that shouldn't be there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eOBbdbV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kFiF824.jpg)
A note on the remaining units
We're working on pumping out about a few every day to make sure they arrive properly. USPS has given us some issues with some we sent out, and to this date, there are a total of 5 orders that have gone missing: 1 from FedEx, and 4 from USPS.
Nothing more is needed from you except some more patience, as I plan to deliver a high quality keyboard to your fingers.
If you have concerns, just email support@keyclack.com for refunds, or what have you.
Sent from ur mam
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 18:00:24
Hi everyone,Very najs update. Thanks dude
Just a little update. We got the units we sent back from reanodization yesterday and today, and I'm a tad disappointed at the finish. These were units we sent back to get repaired from initial issues we saw.
There are some anodization issues. Here is the most prevalent issue, that bugs me very much. It's hard to capture in photo, but at certain angles of light, you can see that there is some type of different color shine to these. The issue is not just that tiny mark, but it's across the whole back side of the board. The base piece better represents the issue that we're seeing, but it's more prevalent on the top piece.
After a heated discussion this week with the manufacturer, we came to the conclusion that they would remake the units affected, and also fix the units we send back to them (for a second attempt to reanodize).
In order to hurdle over this issue, we've order more units to make sure we are 100% good to go. These will take 3 weeks to get to us. This was done in case I discover more units that have this issue as I repackage them to send out.
Again to Note: this issue is apparent a long the whole backside, but is hard to capture in a photo and is apparent in the units they sent back to us. This is the most common issue we found on the units received and I'm reviewing the pieces we have on hand.
If I would describe it, its something a long the lines of, a darker stain that shouldn't be there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eOBbdbV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kFiF824.jpg)
A note on the remaining units
We're working on pumping out about a few every day to make sure they arrive properly. USPS has given us some issues with some we sent out, and to this date, there are a total of 5 orders that have gone missing: 1 from FedEx, and 4 from USPS.
Nothing more is needed from you except some more patience, as I plan to deliver a high quality keyboard to your fingers.
If you have concerns, just email support@keyclack.com for refunds, or what have you.
Sent from ur mam
No worries Tally. I've been working on this post since yesterday. The past 48 hours have been intense to get to where we are. I've had to stay up til about 4am just so we could make sure everything was in order and that I had their direct attention so we can make sure we deliver the board we promised.
Despite the hurdle, and endless hours of chatting, they have been nothing but great to us, and are amazing for doing everything that they already have for us.
I hope this ends soon - and thanks for the patience mate.
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 19 October 2017, 18:14:58
Hi everyone,Very najs update. Thanks dude
Just a little update. We got the units we sent back from reanodization yesterday and today, and I'm a tad disappointed at the finish. These were units we sent back to get repaired from initial issues we saw.
There are some anodization issues. Here is the most prevalent issue, that bugs me very much. It's hard to capture in photo, but at certain angles of light, you can see that there is some type of different color shine to these. The issue is not just that tiny mark, but it's across the whole back side of the board. The base piece better represents the issue that we're seeing, but it's more prevalent on the top piece.
After a heated discussion this week with the manufacturer, we came to the conclusion that they would remake the units affected, and also fix the units we send back to them (for a second attempt to reanodize).
In order to hurdle over this issue, we've order more units to make sure we are 100% good to go. These will take 3 weeks to get to us. This was done in case I discover more units that have this issue as I repackage them to send out.
Again to Note: this issue is apparent a long the whole backside, but is hard to capture in a photo and is apparent in the units they sent back to us. This is the most common issue we found on the units received and I'm reviewing the pieces we have on hand.
If I would describe it, its something a long the lines of, a darker stain that shouldn't be there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eOBbdbV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kFiF824.jpg)
A note on the remaining units
We're working on pumping out about a few every day to make sure they arrive properly. USPS has given us some issues with some we sent out, and to this date, there are a total of 5 orders that have gone missing: 1 from FedEx, and 4 from USPS.
Nothing more is needed from you except some more patience, as I plan to deliver a high quality keyboard to your fingers.
If you have concerns, just email support@keyclack.com for refunds, or what have you.
Sent from ur mam
No worries Tally. I've been working on this post since yesterday. The past 48 hours have been intense to get to where we are. I've had to stay up til about 4am just so we could make sure everything was in order and that I had their direct attention so we can make sure we deliver the board we promised.
Despite the hurdle, and endless hours of chatting, they have been nothing but great to us, and are amazing for doing everything that they already have for us.
I hope this ends soon - and thanks for the patience mate.
The update is awesome - thanks for giving us a peek into what's going on!
Post by: imorhi on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:31:29
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:
(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
Post by: Zanduby on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:36:21
Reflow the soldering on those switches. I don’t think it’s the resistors.I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:40:25
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
Email support@keyclack.com ; circle the part that is missing with a red circle, and we'll send you a replacement part for it
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:24:54
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
Email support@keyclack.com ; circle the part that is missing with a red circle, and we'll send you a replacement part for it
looks like a diode
Post by: xondat on Fri, 20 October 2017, 02:32:41
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
For the delete key, the 331 thing is the other way round?
Post by: kinglukas38 on Fri, 20 October 2017, 02:43:14
orientation doesn't matter for resistorsI heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
For the delete key, the 331 thing is the other way round?
Post by: MojoBandit on Fri, 20 October 2017, 03:39:40
Hi everyone,
Just a little update. We got the units we sent back from reanodization yesterday and today, and I'm a tad disappointed at the finish. These were units we sent back to get repaired from initial issues we saw.
There are some anodization issues. Here is the most prevalent issue, that bugs me very much. It's hard to capture in photo, but at certain angles of light, you can see that there is some type of different color shine to these. The issue is not just that tiny mark, but it's across the whole back side of the board. The base piece better represents the issue that we're seeing, but it's more prevalent on the top piece.
After a heated discussion this week with the manufacturer, we came to the conclusion that they would remake the units affected, and also fix the units we send back to them (for a second attempt to reanodize).
In order to hurdle over this issue, we've order more units to make sure we are 100% good to go. These will take 3 weeks to get to us. This was done in case I discover more units that have this issue as I repackage them to send out.
Again to Note: this issue is apparent a long the whole backside, but is hard to capture in a photo and is apparent in the units they sent back to us. This is the most common issue we found on the units received and I'm reviewing the pieces we have on hand.
If I would describe it, its something a long the lines of, a darker stain that shouldn't be there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eOBbdbV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kFiF824.jpg)
A note on the remaining units
We're working on pumping out about a few every day to make sure they arrive properly. USPS has given us some issues with some we sent out, and to this date, there are a total of 5 orders that have gone missing: 1 from FedEx, and 4 from USPS.
Nothing more is needed from you except some more patience, as I plan to deliver a high quality keyboard to your fingers.
If you have concerns, just email support@keyclack.com for refunds, or what have you.
Thanks for the update.
However, it still isn't clear to me how many of the units left are concerned by this problem.
I was under the impression that extras had been used to replace the faulty boards.
Will some of us be impacted by this delay ?
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:06:21
I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
Its not a resistor you're missing. It's a diode (note the orientation marker). Most likely knocked loose during transport or shipping. It's also completely trivial to replace using a hand iron, you don't need a hot air station to fix this.
Not having exact dimensions, I can only make an educated guess about the package form factor, but the pads look like they were designed to fit SOD123 packages. You will be able to find replacement diodes very easily. Go to your favourite electronics retailer and look for 1N4148W SMT diodes
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:19:53
Another thing to complain tho, why China customer from the same GB got things cheaper and sooner? And all units they got are flawless apparently?
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:24:05
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 07:46:45
Told you beating a dead horse is going to do something...
Another thing to complain tho, why China customer from the same GB got things cheaper and sooner? And all units they got are flawless apparently?
:rolleyes:
Post by: sony on Fri, 20 October 2017, 11:25:17
Told you beating a dead horse is going to do something...
Another thing to complain tho, why China customer from the same GB got things cheaper and sooner? And all units they got are flawless apparently?
>flawless apparently.
Some of the pictures Jchan showed didn't look that bad and it's possible that the Chinese proxy did not do as careful QC. I also believe that their numbers were smaller so it would have been easier to find defective units and get those replaced. Being in China would also mean that those replacements got sent out quicker. This however is all speculation since as far as the Chinese gb is concerned, we only have pictures of the delivered product. We have no information about any hiccups they encountered too.
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 20 October 2017, 12:43:25
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:28:44
Told you beating a dead horse is going to do something...
Another thing to complain tho, why China customer from the same GB got things cheaper and sooner? And all units they got are flawless apparently?
Given what I've been hearing on QQ, they were not all flawless. A few have the issue Jchan mentioned above, and a few have standard production issues (small dings and scratches).
Post by: CamRank1 on Fri, 20 October 2017, 15:02:50
For a second I almost thought about having him just send me a messed up one. I could fully polish the case. That would be rad.
I'm going to scratch it myself on accident anyway, I could care less about anonidization issues tbh.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 20 October 2017, 15:58:06
The Asia units did have some faults. Actually two people who got their units are still waiting for them to be fixed due to the lack of qc the Asia distributor had.
They also don't have to work with customs and all that jazz across the world so that's something to take note of.
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The current distribution shouldn't be affected, if only a little.
Also, the anodization is actually just uneven anodization coating, at least that's what we're hearing from the manufacturer.
Today, we'll have 15 units going out. They're currently being packed and emails should be sent out by the end of today.
Thanks for the patience.
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 20 October 2017, 18:42:40
Reflow the soldering on those switches. I don’t think it’s the resistors.I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
EDIT: First pic is missing half a resistor, second one looks like soldering issue.
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Post by: xondat on Fri, 20 October 2017, 18:44:35
orientation doesn't matter for resistorsMoreFor the delete key, the 331 thing is the other way round?I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
TIL. I guess that makes sense.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 20 October 2017, 19:27:25
Reflow the soldering on those switches. I don’t think it’s the resistors.I heard some of you looking for pics! I got mine a while ago... Hope the rest of you can get your hands on them soon! Rather unfortunate circumstances, but the wait will be worth it in the end!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ynVmU7q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E91BoTg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qNJVcT7.jpg)
Some pictures of the two non-working switches:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JzCs8vL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aUpTzD0.jpg)
No idea what the problem with the del is.
Pretty obvious that a resistor is missing from the home key. I feel like I could fix that one if I knew what part to buy to replace it.
Not bashing any QC here, most likely was from me moving the board around when soldering
EDIT: First pic is missing half a resistor, second one looks like soldering issue.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
In the first picture, what's missing is a diode, not a resistor. The resistor looks fine.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 October 2017, 19:28:08
very important distinction
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 20 October 2017, 20:34:21
Post by: _cramil on Sat, 21 October 2017, 08:48:11
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Thank you rama and jchan for bringing us this awesome board!!!
Post by: packman86 on Sat, 21 October 2017, 16:14:55
We interupt this basic electronics lesson to bring you breaking news of a glorious M65-A delivery!!!
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Thank you rama and jchan for bringing us this awesome board!!!
Holy cow! That M65-A just gets prettier and prettier the more units I see.
Would love to buy one if they ever hit the store.
ps do you have Godspeed Calculus by chance? I'd love to get my hands on that kit some day.
Post by: Aesomatica on Sat, 21 October 2017, 17:13:48
Today, we'll have 15 units going out. They're currently being packed and emails should be sent out by the end of today.
Post 2 update? I'm excited for the progress this is making.
Post by: kolashnikov on Sat, 21 October 2017, 18:13:03
Today, we'll have 15 units going out. They're currently being packed and emails should be sent out by the end of today.
Post 2 update? I'm excited for the progress this is making.
FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Post by: _cramil on Sat, 21 October 2017, 19:58:03
We interupt this basic electronics lesson to bring you breaking news of a glorious M65-A delivery!!!
(Attachment Link)
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(Attachment Link)
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Thank you rama and jchan for bringing us this awesome board!!!
Holy cow! That M65-A just gets prettier and prettier the more units I see.
Would love to buy one if they ever hit the store.
ps do you have Godspeed Calculus by chance? I'd love to get my hands on that kit some day.
I do not have calculus. I wish I would have added it tho.
Post by: Aesomatica on Mon, 23 October 2017, 15:20:31
FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Good enough for me, thanks.
Post by: KINGPIN on Mon, 23 October 2017, 19:23:11
How come I didn't....I mean me too thanks.FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Good enough for me, thanks.
Post by: CamRank1 on Mon, 23 October 2017, 20:17:46
How come I didn't....I mean me too thanks.FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Good enough for me, thanks.
Nothing against you KINGPIN, because I actually agree with everything you've posted thus far, but If I were JChan, I'd totally ensure yours (and mine and a few others) were the last to go out.
Post by: KINGPIN on Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:28:57
Fair enough, but after all the beating of the "dead" horse the horse is up and running again. Bless kekHow come I didn't....I mean me too thanks.FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Good enough for me, thanks.
Nothing against you KINGPIN, because I actually agree with everything you've posted thus far, but If I were JChan, I'd totally ensure yours (and mine and a few others) were the last to go out.
Post by: Aesomatica on Wed, 25 October 2017, 10:58:49
Post by: kitchenace13 on Wed, 25 October 2017, 11:25:23
Have any orders shipped this week?
Yes, at least one shipped, ETA Thursday.
Post by: kustom3 on Wed, 25 October 2017, 11:27:50
Have any orders shipped this week?
I got pre-shipment/tracking info for my keyboard Saturday and it started moving yesterday.
Post by: Aesomatica on Wed, 25 October 2017, 20:32:56
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 25 October 2017, 21:20:07
Have any orders shipped this week?My board is also set to arrive tommorow
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 26 October 2017, 00:51:09
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 26 October 2017, 12:30:13
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Post by: jjwax on Thu, 26 October 2017, 13:16:32
Picture of mine with Miami Dolch to tide you guys over.
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So pretty - I am beyond stoked for mine, hopefully we see some more shipping action over the coming weeks!
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 26 October 2017, 16:45:13
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https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond (https://gfycat.com/GrayShallowDutchsmoushond)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 26 October 2017, 17:46:50
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 26 October 2017, 19:08:56
Good to see FEDEX making a move on those boards that are going out.
I'll be packing another 10-15 before I head out, and you'll get emails from jchan@keyclack.com with tracking.
Post by: Arcsxum on Thu, 26 October 2017, 21:07:23
Hi everyone,Thanks jchan!!!
Good to see FEDEX making a move on those boards that are going out.
I'll be packing another 10-15 before I head out, and you'll get emails from jchan@keyclack.com with tracking.
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 27 October 2017, 09:17:57
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 27 October 2017, 09:19:34
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Post by: delivery on Fri, 27 October 2017, 09:35:16
Look at here what came yesterdayLucky you! Still waiting for mineShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171027/529f16c657a83a00da308727e0f560f4.jpg)
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Post by: Valaris on Fri, 27 October 2017, 09:43:19
I missed this GB :( Are you going to do R2?
He has said he probably won't. Though he has an unknown amount of extras which will be sold once every unit of the group buy has been shipped.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 27 October 2017, 10:10:02
I missed this GB :( Are you going to do R2?
He has said he probably won't. Though he has an unknown amount of extras which will be sold once every unit of the group buy has been shipped.
Hopefully the shipping picks up over the next few weeks, but at the current pace could be quite some time before we see extras
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 27 October 2017, 10:19:55
Hopefully the shipping picks up over the next few weeks, but at the current pace could be quite some time before we see extras
See that's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't think Post 2 is being updated anymore, now it's an email that gets sent to you with the tracking info. So, a little hard to gauge the pace. He did tell me about 2-3 more weeks of shipping for completion. (he said 3-4 weeks about a week ago, carried forward)
Post by: clickstops on Fri, 27 October 2017, 12:37:14
(https://i.imgur.com/zXFSMQe.jpg)
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More here; https://imgur.com/a/22yQu
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 27 October 2017, 12:50:52
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/alpBsy8.jpg)
This pic makes me happy I didn't ask for a refund, but makes me worried because I don't have any space for another keyboard.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 27 October 2017, 12:51:14
I know people are frustrated but I'll echo that this kit is 100% worth the wait. Nicest kit I've ever received.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zXFSMQe.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/alpBsy8.jpg)
More here; https://imgur.com/a/22yQu
That board should stay home from school because that is siiiiiiick
Post by: robbles on Fri, 27 October 2017, 13:12:47
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 27 October 2017, 14:36:41
Love the pics. No two are the same! But the vast majority of pictures don't have the under glow on. 100 imaginary internet points for the first person to post a set of low light under glow pics, preferably with some different custom color schemes!
Forreal, it's one of the main reasons I want this board. That classy nylon diffusal.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 27 October 2017, 14:38:51
The shipment will be mailed on Monday.
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 27 October 2017, 15:22:29
Love the pics. No two are the same! But the vast majority of pictures don't have the under glow on. 100 imaginary internet points for the first person to post a set of low light under glow pics, preferably with some different custom color schemes!
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Sorry for the bad picture quality.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 27 October 2017, 16:26:40
Thanks for everyone's patience
Post by: Dominathan on Fri, 27 October 2017, 17:40:25
Maybe getting my new iPhone and the K-Type will hold me over for a while
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 27 October 2017, 19:06:19
Love the pics. No two are the same! But the vast majority of pictures don't have the under glow on. 100 imaginary internet points for the first person to post a set of low light under glow pics, preferably with some different custom color schemes!
Did everyone just totally ignore my underglow gif or something?
Post by: Rumblehotep on Fri, 27 October 2017, 20:20:24
SO PUMPED!
Post by: delivery on Fri, 27 October 2017, 20:23:25
Just got email shipping notification.Lcuky you too!! Still waiting for mine again.
SO PUMPED!
Post by: clickstops on Fri, 27 October 2017, 20:56:38
Post by: exmpt on Fri, 27 October 2017, 22:33:30
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 27 October 2017, 23:51:41
How come I didn't....I mean me too thanks.FYI I got a shipping email from jchan that evening. Although he isn't posting the numbers in the thread like before, orders definitely seem to be going out. I will note that my tracking info is "not found" for now, but I expect that to be a weekend anomaly.
Good enough for me, thanks.
Nothing against you KINGPIN, because I actually agree with everything you've posted thus far, but If I were JChan, I'd totally ensure yours (and mine and a few others) were the last to go out.
MOD EDIT: Please refrain from personal attacks.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 28 October 2017, 00:37:35
MOD EDIT: Please refrain from personal attacks.Let’s not start throwing personal insults. Nothing good comes from it and it clutters up the thread. If you have beef, send a PM.
Post by: Oscar2177 on Sat, 28 October 2017, 22:07:39
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 29 October 2017, 01:23:15
By any chance is there any keyboards that someone wanted to sell or left over from people that made a paypal claim. If you have one and would like to sell it pm me.
There will definitely be extras, but we have to wait before they become available. Keep your eyes posted here, there will likely be plenty of heads up.
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 29 October 2017, 04:44:38
My mistake.
Post by: msilvv on Sun, 29 October 2017, 05:07:40
Extras are going live Nov 1st.Are the remaining 100 all international? Or some domestic as well?
Also,125 packages were sent out as of this moment (some awaiting pickup from usps). Mostly domestic, so international will be done this week.
About 100 remain at this stage.
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Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 29 October 2017, 05:35:44
Wrong thread.
Was meant to be 1965.LOL.
Post by: Oscar2177 on Sun, 29 October 2017, 08:09:52
Extras are going live Nov 1st.Are the remaining 100 all international? Or some domestic as well?
Also,125 packages were sent out as of this moment (some awaiting pickup from usps). Mostly domestic, so international will be done this week.
About 100 remain at this stage.
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Will the extras be posted on there website or geek hack?
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sun, 29 October 2017, 08:36:37
Post by: Ouster on Sun, 29 October 2017, 12:06:24
By any chance is there any keyboards that someone wanted to sell or left over from people that made a paypal claim. If you have one and would like to sell it pm me.If you don't already keep an eye on r/mechma rket I have seen several M65-A get listed. Most are the kits themselves but some have been assembled.
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Post by: Auxo on Sun, 29 October 2017, 13:30:40
I sent an email for an address change for my shipment. I already mentioned a few times you can put my order as low priority, but I'd just like to know that the address change is acknowledged!
Post by: robbles on Sun, 29 October 2017, 14:48:32
Love the pics. No two are the same! But the vast majority of pictures don't have the under glow on. 100 imaginary internet points for the first person to post a set of low light under glow pics, preferably with some different custom color schemes!
Did everyone just totally ignore my underglow gif or something?
Loved your gif!
Post by: kitchenace13 on Mon, 30 October 2017, 10:14:25
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 30 October 2017, 13:03:36
At some point in time I'd be interested in buying more/extra rubber feet. I have two base plates and only one set of feet :P (first world problems I know)
Same here. I'd actually forgotten about my acrylic base.
Post by: dohmain on Mon, 30 October 2017, 13:08:57
At some point in time I'd be interested in buying more/extra rubber feet. I have two base plates and only one set of feet :P (first world problems I know)
Same here. I'd actually forgotten about my acrylic base.
I also got an extra base and assumed that I'd get a set of rubber feet for each base. @jchan, can you clarify? Thanks.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:41:42
We'll have 40 units going out by Friday. We're double checking all the units again to make sure there is nothing missed.
Cheers.
Post by: yonghf on Tue, 31 October 2017, 05:51:46
Quick update.
We'll have 40 units going out by Friday. We're double checking all the units again to make sure there is nothing missed.
Cheers.
Fingers crossed!
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Tue, 31 October 2017, 11:26:05
Quick update.
We'll have 40 units going out by Friday. We're double checking all the units again to make sure there is nothing missed.
Cheers.
Great news to hear, it's closer and closer to finally coming!! :D
Post by: Sarillexis on Tue, 31 October 2017, 11:48:06
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:36:53
Quick update.
We'll have 40 units going out by Friday. We're double checking all the units again to make sure there is nothing missed.
Cheers.
yo jchan
u da man
ninety four
:cool:
Post by: jraper13 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:44:40
Quick update.
We'll have 40 units going out by Friday. We're double checking all the units again to make sure there is nothing missed.
Cheers.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Please SHIP 164!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 November 2017, 18:57:27
thanks for the patience everyone. Slowly going through it all.
--
Wanted to clarify another reason we're going a tad slower:
In the past month, due to our shipping volume (not just Keyclack), we've had about 5 M65A's lost.
In addition to that, we've had 3 GMK Muted Packages lost, and we're making sure we send out a few at a time to that the sorting facility isn't overwhelmed by our packages.
Thanks everyone!
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:04:13
Post by: rioc on Thu, 02 November 2017, 03:13:37
20 or so packed today. We'll be sending out emails in an hour or so.
thanks for the patience everyone. Slowly going through it all.
--
Wanted to clarify another reason we're going a tad slower:
In the past month, due to our shipping volume (not just Keyclack), we've had about 5 M65A's lost.
In addition to that, we've had 3 GMK Muted Packages lost, and we're making sure we send out a few at a time to that the sorting facility isn't overwhelmed by our packages.
Thanks everyone!
is there a list which ones got sent out, and which ones got lost? (is international shipping again now?)
thanks for your effort Joseph :)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 02 November 2017, 03:15:41
20 or so packed today. We'll be sending out emails in an hour or so.
thanks for the patience everyone. Slowly going through it all.
--
Wanted to clarify another reason we're going a tad slower:
In the past month, due to our shipping volume (not just Keyclack), we've had about 5 M65A's lost.
In addition to that, we've had 3 GMK Muted Packages lost, and we're making sure we send out a few at a time to that the sorting facility isn't overwhelmed by our packages.
Thanks everyone!
is there a list which ones got sent out, and which ones got lost? (is international shipping again now?)
thanks for your effort Joseph :)
i'll update the list by Friday.
For the lost ones, we've already talked to the people who the boards were supposed to go to, as they contacted us about tracking going no where.
The shipments are not "domestic" or "international" focused, as they come in as whatever we get.
If there are DHL ones, I make a DHL trip. If it is, domestic, we have USPS/Fedex pick it up.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 02 November 2017, 03:18:51
20 or so packed today. We'll be sending out emails in an hour or so.
thanks for the patience everyone. Slowly going through it all.
--
Wanted to clarify another reason we're going a tad slower:
In the past month, due to our shipping volume (not just Keyclack), we've had about 5 M65A's lost.
In addition to that, we've had 3 GMK Muted Packages lost, and we're making sure we send out a few at a time to that the sorting facility isn't overwhelmed by our packages.
Thanks everyone!
is there a list which ones got sent out, and which ones got lost? (is international shipping again now?)
thanks for your effort Joseph :)
i'll update the list by Friday.
For the lost ones, we've already talked to the people who the boards were supposed to go to, as they contacted us about tracking going no where.
The shipments are not "domestic" or "international" focused, as they come in as whatever we get.
If there are DHL ones, I make a DHL trip. If it is, domestic, we have USPS/Fedex pick it up.
ah ok, I see. Thanks mate :thumb:
Haven't been keeping up to date with things recently, but I hope things are going better for you and your family again :) (you're a good guy)
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 02 November 2017, 03:21:36
20 or so packed today. We'll be sending out emails in an hour or so.
thanks for the patience everyone. Slowly going through it all.
--
Wanted to clarify another reason we're going a tad slower:
In the past month, due to our shipping volume (not just Keyclack), we've had about 5 M65A's lost.
In addition to that, we've had 3 GMK Muted Packages lost, and we're making sure we send out a few at a time to that the sorting facility isn't overwhelmed by our packages.
Thanks everyone!
is there a list which ones got sent out, and which ones got lost? (is international shipping again now?)
thanks for your effort Joseph :)
i'll update the list by Friday.
For the lost ones, we've already talked to the people who the boards were supposed to go to, as they contacted us about tracking going no where.
The shipments are not "domestic" or "international" focused, as they come in as whatever we get.
If there are DHL ones, I make a DHL trip. If it is, domestic, we have USPS/Fedex pick it up.
ah ok, I see. Thanks mate :thumb:
Haven't been keeping up to date with things recently, but I hope things are going better for you and your family again :) (you're a good guy)
cheers, thanks for the kind words. we all wish for better days.
have a good one :)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 02 November 2017, 05:44:19
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:36:08
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:44:57
Just got a shipping notification from Keyclack and got super excited then I checked the invoice and it was my 60% brass plate I ordered a few months ago. Why you gotta be such a tease, JChan?!
Sorry! We're packing those, and finalizing the 40 M65A shipments as well. Lots being packed today. Some will go out, other things will go out on Monday to separate the shipment batches.
Soz mate!
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 03 November 2017, 18:09:03
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 03 November 2017, 18:32:36
Post by: naut on Fri, 03 November 2017, 18:33:16
I'm curious, about how many of us are left now?
Me :'(
Post by: SakeJams on Fri, 03 November 2017, 18:34:28
ripI'm curious, about how many of us are left now?
Me :'(
Post by: kmba on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:01:39
Post by: yokken on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:27:12
Post by: SakeJams on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:28:41
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:52:00
Post by: Madēo on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:53:19
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 03 November 2017, 20:06:25
didn't get an email
Me neither :(
Post by: delivery on Fri, 03 November 2017, 20:46:24
Post by: FioraCorp on Fri, 03 November 2017, 20:55:00
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 04 November 2017, 00:25:30
Post by: purrito on Sat, 04 November 2017, 01:03:48
Welp there go my hopes of having this ready for the norcal meetup :'(Same pal...but hopefully we can live vicariously through the other boards folks are bringing to the meet!
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Post by: Brammm87 on Sat, 04 November 2017, 14:27:20
Post by: Dominathan on Sat, 04 November 2017, 14:43:19
Post by: whydyoukillsanta on Sat, 04 November 2017, 16:29:25
Post by: Feivis on Sun, 05 November 2017, 19:21:11
Post by: yonghf on Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:56:50
Post by: childofthehorn on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:50:48
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 07 November 2017, 01:20:28
Glad to see everyone's excitement for these still :D
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 07 November 2017, 02:52:26
I'll have another 20 or so packed by Thursday or so.Check your Skype please
Glad to see everyone's excitement for these still :D
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 09 November 2017, 05:28:34
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Post by: kmba on Thu, 09 November 2017, 09:38:22
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 November 2017, 14:13:13
This is concerning :(
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 09 November 2017, 14:25:57
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 November 2017, 14:30:57
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 09 November 2017, 14:45:48
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 09 November 2017, 15:18:49
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 November 2017, 17:16:21
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Seriously.
They've advised us to wait until Monday for tracking to update.
--
Last week, we had one go untracked for about 6 days, and then it magically started moving, got scanned in at LA, then magically showed up in Australia.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 09 November 2017, 18:31:15
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 09 November 2017, 18:37:35
Post by: exmpt on Thu, 09 November 2017, 19:02:01
(https://i.imgur.com/DBMJfp7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y3lwGGj.jpg)
Finally got my M65-A in a couple days ago, took some time to build it yesterday.
67g Gatistotles, GMK Carbon w/ Novelties & Spacebar.
The polished brass on this board is really nice, really glad I got the brass plate instead of the alu. The ano is also a LOT better than many of my previous boards.
Only complaint is that the tolerances on the brass plate are really low, which means many switches were crooked and I had to reflow most of them.
Overall though the board looks great and I'm really happy with it :)
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 09 November 2017, 19:16:05
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 09 November 2017, 20:06:17
What does it mean, to reflow a switch?
Heat up the solder so you can move them. Or if the contact is not proper so it closes the gap correctly.
Post by: therealmckellar on Thu, 09 November 2017, 20:12:17
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Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 09 November 2017, 20:20:43
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Seriously.
They've advised us to wait until Monday for tracking to update.
--
Last week, we had one go untracked for about 6 days, and then it magically started moving, got scanned in at LA, then magically showed up in Australia.
happened to mine. nothing moved for a week. then it magically updated and showed up at my door the next day.
Post by: kmba on Thu, 09 November 2017, 20:40:04
my m65 arrived today. everything looks great. plan to built this sunday with lubed 78g zandas.
Post by: kacase on Fri, 10 November 2017, 00:06:55
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Don’t worry. The shipping status sometimes takes a few days to update. I sometimes get deliveries before the status is changed from “label created”. It is quite unlikely that the parcel got lost.
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Post by: codywanks on Fri, 10 November 2017, 03:58:41
Only complaint is that the tolerances on the brass plate are really low, which means many switches were crooked and I had to reflow most of them.
The problem lies with the Aristotle stem, not the brass plate.
Try replacing a couple of crookedstotles with regular Cherry MX switches and see if there's a difference.
Post by: Corgi Butts on Fri, 10 November 2017, 06:31:11
I had a package last week that took 6 days to go 2 hours south to the main distribution hub. My eBay buyer threatened a refund because he thought the tacking was fake.The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Seriously.
They've advised us to wait until Monday for tracking to update.
--
Last week, we had one go untracked for about 6 days, and then it magically started moving, got scanned in at LA, then magically showed up in Australia.
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Post by: Valaris on Fri, 10 November 2017, 07:53:26
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 November 2017, 09:12:23
Only complaint is that the tolerances on the brass plate are really low, which means many switches were crooked and I had to reflow most of them.
The problem lies with the Aristotle stem, not the brass plate.
Try replacing a couple of crookedstotles with regular Cherry MX switches and see if there's a difference.
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 10 November 2017, 09:35:31
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Oh god, the loose keycaps still give me nightmares to this day, they've gotten me killed several times while gaming whenever they decide to pop off. Ripster's tape mod (http://i.imgur.com/poLbH.jpg) helps but is probably not worth the trouble.
I really want to try Kailh box whites, but I've been told its bark is greater than its bite (i.e. nice click but poor tactility).
Post by: kmba on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:11:11
Post by: kmba on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:12:35
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Oh god, the loose keycaps still give me nightmares to this day, they've gotten me killed several times while gaming whenever they decide to pop off. Ripster's tape mod (http://i.imgur.com/poLbH.jpg) helps but is probably not worth the trouble.
I really want to try Kailh box whites, but I've been told its bark is greater than its bite (i.e. nice click but poor tactility).
Go box pale blue for more tactility. Or box Navy for really strong tactility. The only clicky more tactile is a pandastotle.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:17:22
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Oh god, the loose keycaps still give me nightmares to this day, they've gotten me killed several times while gaming whenever they decide to pop off. Ripster's tape mod (http://i.imgur.com/poLbH.jpg) helps but is probably not worth the trouble.
I really want to try Kailh box whites, but I've been told its bark is greater than its bite (i.e. nice click but poor tactility).
That is correct. Box white are not very tactile. But still, it’s better than crooked stems and falling off caps. And yeah, I already dread modding my costar inserts with plastic wrap every time I switch caps, so I’m not about to do that on every keycap.
I like the pale box blues and the speed bronze. I have a sample of the new dark blue box that are supposed to have a thicker click bar. In theory it should be perfect. In my opinion, however, they don’t feel right on the upstroke when click bar resets.
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:26:23
Go box pale blue for more tactility. Or box Navy for really strong tactility. The only clicky more tactile is a pandastotle.
Ah thanks. Probably time for me to go switch shopping.
Isn't the Pale Blue just a White with a heavier spring?
Post by: robbles on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:47:32
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Oh god, the loose keycaps still give me nightmares to this day, they've gotten me killed several times while gaming whenever they decide to pop off. Ripster's tape mod (http://i.imgur.com/poLbH.jpg) helps but is probably not worth the trouble.
I really want to try Kailh box whites, but I've been told its bark is greater than its bite (i.e. nice click but poor tactility).
That is correct. Box white are not very tactile. But still, it’s better than crooked stems and falling off caps. And yeah, I already dread modding my costar inserts with plastic wrap every time I switch caps, so I’m not about to do that on every keycap.
I like the pale box blues and the speed bronze. I have a sample of the new dark blue box that are supposed to have a thicker click bar. In theory it should be perfect. In my opinion, however, they don’t feel right on the upstroke when click bar resets.
I've heard a couple people, including anthonyooiszewen who runs a custom build service and streams his builds, have run into issues with Kailh Box's stems being crooked. He takes a lot of care to check his switches are properly seated and aligned and found a bunch of his Burnt Orange box's had crooked stems. See here: Just a warning to those using them.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 November 2017, 10:52:40
This is 100% true. Aristotle stems are crooked. I’ve had the same issue. I gave up on Aristotles after the new click bar Kailhs. Worse than the crooked stems is keycap fit. My SA caps were so loose they actually stuck to my fingers and came off while typing. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
Oh god, the loose keycaps still give me nightmares to this day, they've gotten me killed several times while gaming whenever they decide to pop off. Ripster's tape mod (http://i.imgur.com/poLbH.jpg) helps but is probably not worth the trouble.
I really want to try Kailh box whites, but I've been told its bark is greater than its bite (i.e. nice click but poor tactility).
That is correct. Box white are not very tactile. But still, it’s better than crooked stems and falling off caps. And yeah, I already dread modding my costar inserts with plastic wrap every time I switch caps, so I’m not about to do that on every keycap.
I like the pale box blues and the speed bronze. I have a sample of the new dark blue box that are supposed to have a thicker click bar. In theory it should be perfect. In my opinion, however, they don’t feel right on the upstroke when click bar resets.
I've heard a couple people, including anthonyooiszewen who runs a custom build service and streams his builds, have run into issues with Kailh Box's stems being crooked. He takes a lot of care to check his switches are properly seated and aligned and found a bunch of his Burnt Orange box's had crooked stems. See here: Just a warning to those using them.
Yes, Mike at novelkeys told me that the box orange have crooked stem issues. It’s why novelkeys is out of stock. Kailh is trying to fix the issue. This is why I love my hotswap board. I can put them in and see the issues and. It have to desoldered! Same with Aristotles.
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 10 November 2017, 11:29:48
See here: Just a warning to those using them.
I wanted to but... 7 hours. Jesus
*edit: needed to manually scrub to the correct time
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 November 2017, 14:05:49
Go box pale blue for more tactility. Or box Navy for really strong tactility. The only clicky more tactile is a pandastotle.
Ah thanks. Probably time for me to go switch shopping.
Isn't the Pale Blue just a White with a heavier spring?
yup
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 10 November 2017, 16:52:44
Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 10 November 2017, 18:18:58
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Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 10 November 2017, 19:00:17
Just finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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Post by: SakeJams on Fri, 10 November 2017, 19:02:59
Just finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?Hmm that is very interesting!
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Post by: ghostdeini on Fri, 10 November 2017, 19:33:22
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:28:47
I think we have about 120 that remain.
I'll be packing some tomorrow in the morning and I'll be emailing the people whos got packed yesterday as well.
I'll be dropping them off on Monday for shipping.
Post by: delivery on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:43:37
Just finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?Oh man, there supposed to be M-65A on it!!!
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Post by: kmba on Fri, 10 November 2017, 23:04:05
Just finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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.. flip it over? :-* :p
Post by: eyedrop on Sat, 11 November 2017, 00:10:50
Post by: exmpt on Sat, 11 November 2017, 01:42:55
Only complaint is that the tolerances on the brass plate are really low, which means many switches were crooked and I had to reflow most of them.
The problem lies with the Aristotle stem, not the brass plate.
Try replacing a couple of crookedstotles with regular Cherry MX switches and see if there's a difference.
Probably both the plate and the aristotle stems then. It did the same thing with some Cherry MX Blues and Kailh BOX switches, they wiggle a lot in the brass plate. Doesn't take much effort to fix though.
Post by: dohmain on Sat, 11 November 2017, 15:00:37
I'm guessing they are M3, but if anyone could confirm and let me know the length I'd appreciate it.
Post by: hormbre on Sat, 11 November 2017, 21:57:31
Thanks !
Post by: kmba on Sat, 11 November 2017, 22:00:14
Post by: hormbre on Sat, 11 November 2017, 22:29:43
it was $20 more than nylon when purchased with the kit, $85 for an extra.
Roger that, thanks very much !
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 12 November 2017, 06:13:26
I think we have about 120 that remain.
I'll be packing some tomorrow in the morning and I'll be emailing the people whos got packed yesterday as well.
I'll be dropping them off on Monday for shipping.
We're those emails sent out? I'm having a weird issue with my email so I'm constantly wondering if my order is still in the queue or I just never got the email.
Post by: DreLLin on Sun, 12 November 2017, 11:01:42
The packages were already picked up.
This is concerning :(
Can you please call USPS and clarify it?
No.
Jk, only on a call.
Thank you, hopefully it didn't get lost. :'(
Seriously.
They've advised us to wait until Monday for tracking to update.
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Last week, we had one go untracked for about 6 days, and then it magically started moving, got scanned in at LA, then magically showed up in Australia.
Great news package just got scanned in LA. Hopefully the same happens with 1965 soon.
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Post by: Rumblehotep on Sun, 12 November 2017, 17:40:36
It's much wider than I was expecting and I was not ready for how SHINY the case is, pictures don't really do it justice, you have to see the way light reflects off the living keyboard in person to appreciate it. Fantastically massive even without the weight, and with the brass weight on, woa!
Taking a picture of the weight was tricky because it's so reflective the camera wanted to focus on the ceiling.
Using an aluminum plate (which is so pretty I almost don't regret not getting the brass) with lubed 65g zealios and lubed zeal stabs.
Typing is so soft, like what would the final form of mx-browns be if they weren't meh?
I LOVE RAMA ROSE GOLD
Jchan, this board has surpassed my every expectation and was more than worth the wait.
Thank you for running this groupbuy and I wish all the best for you and yours.
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Post by: yokken on Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:50:36
Post by: kmba on Mon, 13 November 2017, 20:26:32
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 13 November 2017, 22:14:10
just flashed my qmk pcb. if anyone needs some guidance, pm me and I'll try to point you in the right direction. alternately, I'd be willing to create a hex for you and just show you how to burn it.. skip the whole build process.
Might take you up on that, I went in on a QMK and have 0 knowledge haha
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 13 November 2017, 23:21:17
just flashed my qmk pcb. if anyone needs some guidance, pm me and I'll try to point you in the right direction. alternately, I'd be willing to create a hex for you and just show you how to burn it.. skip the whole build process.
I will be PMing you shortly to ask for your help. Appreciate helping other members. :thumb:
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 14 November 2017, 01:51:26
I guess I wasn't part of the Monday drop off.
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 14 November 2017, 06:23:41
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I guess I wasn't part of the Monday drop off.
Me neither, friend
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 14 November 2017, 15:03:37
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I guess I wasn't part of the Monday drop off.
Me neither, friend
Me 3
Post by: Madēo on Tue, 14 November 2017, 17:01:49
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 14 November 2017, 17:19:30
Me 4
That makes 5 of us
Post by: Aesomatica on Tue, 14 November 2017, 17:49:29
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 14 November 2017, 18:58:29
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 14 November 2017, 19:23:26
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I guess I wasn't part of the Monday drop off.
Me neither, friend
lol aw man! the joke continues. I still think we should have done some over/under betting on the E8-V1, M65A, and MiraSE to see which would come first or which will take a year to ship.
Honestly though the only one that was worrisome was the E8-V1 with the dude disappearing with all the money locked in paypal.
Post by: Dominathan on Tue, 14 November 2017, 20:56:26
Me 4
That makes 5 of us
Did all of you receive tracking numbers? I’m still at pre-shipment from the 3rd...
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 15 November 2017, 03:20:40
Me 4
That makes 5 of us
Did all of you receive tracking numbers? I’m still at pre-shipment from the 3rd...
Can you email me / reply to my email that I sent out tracking to with you.
That's really strange :(.
Post by: lydiainmint on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:08:20
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 15 November 2017, 13:49:02
Also never received info, PMing.
Don't send PMs to Joseph, email Keyclack support instead!
support@keyclack.com
Post by: lydiainmint on Wed, 15 November 2017, 15:29:18
Also never received info, PMing.
Don't send PMs to Joseph, email Keyclack support instead!
support@keyclack.com
You are correct, I saw that in the tag so I did end up sending an email over, though I ended up sending to the wrong email, thanks for the lookout.
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 15 November 2017, 17:20:51
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 15 November 2017, 17:26:57
How shady is your post office that this kind of stuff keeps happening? I just don’t understand.
It's not a shady post office. They process a lot for pretty much all of LA county.
Here's what we work with:
- we aren't allowed to drop off packages off at the office because we ship in bulk. they never allow us, even if it's over the counter (like one or two). Even if we put it on the counter, they don't scan it at the office
- we must drop it off at the rear of the office in a truck <-- this is no different, if we went, or our post man picks it up for us.
- it gets resent to another office / sorting facility in Los Angeles area
- it gets distributed from there.
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This happened before at our previous office in Culver City. Same thing happened, and sometimes, it happens.
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Edit:
People often ask me, Joseph, why did you switch to Fedex? Because I don't like this type of stuff happening. For fedex, the guy comes into my office, and scans it in front of me for every package. Yes, it's expensive, but it's service that I think serves value to you, and to me. Knowing that the package is moving is bless.
Cheerz
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 15 November 2017, 18:18:27
Post by: kmba on Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:56:54
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Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:58:37
Built my Jchan special. Lubed ZandasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/DsQJbci.jpg?1)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GnXp28f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7gEoqXU.jpg)
Where else has this been posted? The Vortex CEO messaged me this photo yesterday lmao.
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 15 November 2017, 20:30:05
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 15 November 2017, 22:07:56
Post by: kmba on Thu, 16 November 2017, 08:50:24
Built my Jchan special. Lubed ZandasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/DsQJbci.jpg?1)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GnXp28f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7gEoqXU.jpg)
Where else has this been posted? The Vortex CEO messaged me this photo yesterday lmao.
Hah. I posted on Reddit (different user name) and on discord. I guess people like my board. It's nice. :eek:
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 16 November 2017, 10:20:32
Just finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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What are these "things" on the first pic?
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Post by: SakeJams on Thu, 16 November 2017, 10:23:29
I think that's texture on the ceiling through the reflectionJust finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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What are these "things" on the first pic?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gomc164.png)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 16 November 2017, 10:42:32
I think that's texture on the ceiling through the reflectionJust finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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What are these "things" on the first pic?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gomc164.png)
Lmao i feel retarded now
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 16 November 2017, 13:31:19
I think that's texture on the ceiling through the reflectionJust finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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What are these "things" on the first pic?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gomc164.png)
Lmao i feel retarded now
Its limited edition! :))
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 16 November 2017, 15:00:30
I think that's texture on the ceiling through the reflectionJust finished soldering tonight and noticed that my brass weight is completely mirrored - without the M-65A text :o. Did I miss something, or wasn't that supposed to be etched on?
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What are these "things" on the first pic?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gomc164.png)
Lmao i feel retarded now
Its limited edition! :))
ROFL, i really thought it was part of the brass. My brain :(
Post by: kolashnikov on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:12:02
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Post by: SakeJams on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:14:08
Yeah, that's the reflection of my ceiling. To my surprise, I had the same comment on that pic when posted to reddit, so you're not the only one who thought the brass was messed up. Here's a shot of the front from that set.Damn it looks good! Did you ever hear any word on why the weight is blank?
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Post by: FioraCorp on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:14:25
Yeah, that's the reflection of my ceiling. To my surprise, I had the same comment on that pic when posted to reddit, so you're not the only one who thought the brass was messed up. Here's a shot of the front from that set.
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The black looks really nice with carbon there. Very excited for black as well :)
Post by: Dominathan on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:15:09
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:19:11
Yeah, that's the reflection of my ceiling. To my surprise, I had the same comment on that pic when posted to reddit, so you're not the only one who thought the brass was messed up. Here's a shot of the front from that set.
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It looks really nice with Carbon, nice one :thumb:
Post by: kolashnikov on Thu, 16 November 2017, 18:26:42
Yeah, that's the reflection of my ceiling. To my surprise, I had the same comment on that pic when posted to reddit, so you're not the only one who thought the brass was messed up. Here's a shot of the front from that set.Damn it looks good! Did you ever hear any word on why the weight is blank?
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Thanks guys. Never heard why mine is blank or whether anyone else got a blank one. I guess it was a mistake but I'm not complaining - still works and looks good :thumb:
Post by: Ouster on Fri, 17 November 2017, 03:22:20
I actually like the look of the blank one you have a lot! Also if you ever wanted to exchange it with a printed one I'm sure you could find someone to trade with by posting here or on r/mechmarket!Yeah, that's the reflection of my ceiling. To my surprise, I had the same comment on that pic when posted to reddit, so you're not the only one who thought the brass was messed up. Here's a shot of the front from that set.Damn it looks good! Did you ever hear any word on why the weight is blank?
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Thanks guys. Never heard why mine is blank or whether anyone else got a blank one. I guess it was a mistake but I'm not complaining - still works and looks good :thumb:
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Post by: Gamecat on Fri, 17 November 2017, 19:52:16
Post by: Dominathan on Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:22:18
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 19 November 2017, 17:14:05
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 19 November 2017, 20:14:02
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:09:14
Post by: SakeJams on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:13:21
Nope. When I took out the K, the rest of them worked, so I must have messed it up worse than I thought. I just ended up ordering a sentraq board to replace it and started desoldering the switches.Damn rip. Did you try the flywire to any other switches and have a different result?
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:19:06
Post by: SakeJams on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:28:55
A bunch. I was so confused how nothing was working. I basically hand wired the k in there and still nothing. I definitely need to work on my desoldering, though. I only get a clean removal of the solder like, half the time... at least the sentraq board is almost the same. Gonna miss the split space bar, though. Now that IC has released the PCB design for the K-type, maybe it time to finally work on my own design (with full RGB)Well damn man that sucks to hear. Does the sentraq PCB fit in the M65-A case?
Also if you don't already have something like this: https://goo.gl/WEyjdP I would highly recommend it, it makes desoldering completely painless for me!
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:30:21
A bunch. I was so confused how nothing was working. I basically hand wired the k in there and still nothing. I definitely need to work on my desoldering, though. I only get a clean removal of the solder like, half the time... at least the sentraq board is almost the same. Gonna miss the split space bar, though. Now that IC has released the PCB design for the K-type, maybe it time to finally work on my own design (with full RGB)Well damn man that sucks to hear. Does the sentraq PCB fit in the M65-A case?
Also if you don't already have something like this: https://goo.gl/WEyjdP I would highly recommend it, it makes desoldering completely painless for me!
Sentraq PCBs have north facing LEDs which can be a bit of a deal breaker if you plan on using GMK caps
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:30:55
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:33:29
A bunch. I was so confused how nothing was working. I basically hand wired the k in there and still nothing. I definitely need to work on my desoldering, though. I only get a clean removal of the solder like, half the time... at least the sentraq board is almost the same. Gonna miss the split space bar, though. Now that IC has released the PCB design for the K-type, maybe it time to finally work on my own design (with full RGB)Well damn man that sucks to hear. Does the sentraq PCB fit in the M65-A case?
Also if you don't already have something like this: https://goo.gl/WEyjdP I would highly recommend it, it makes desoldering completely painless for me!
Sentraq PCBs have north facing LEDs which can be a bit of a deal breaker if you plan on using GMK caps
Do they get caught or something? I’ve actually preferred north-facing in my limited exposure, since almost no backlit keys are designed for south-facing. Even my artisans usually look better with north.
Post by: SakeJams on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:38:02
I actually own that already, but sometimes the solder is stuck down in the channel and I can’t get it out.Yeah I've had that problem a few times as well. It also doesn't work well on the LED holes and I have to end up using my soldering iron to heat up the solder so I can suck it out. I still love it 10x more than using a wick!
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:42:26
Do they get caught or something?
They do. I bought GMK keycaps for my KBD66 build. All home row keys are fu*k3d!
I will have to get another set of keycaps.
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:31:47
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 14:12:27
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Regarding the remaining shipments, I'll be shipping a bunch today, and sending out the trackings. I expect that at least 50 of you will get tracking today.
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 14:52:58
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 15:04:03
If you're having a big issue with it, send support@keyclack.com and we can issue a replacement pcb at a discounted price.Ooh baby, music to my ears. Fingers crossed.
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Regarding the remaining shipments, I'll be shipping a bunch today, and sending out the trackings. I expect that at least 50 of you will get tracking today.
Post by: SakeJams on Mon, 20 November 2017, 15:20:26
One of the pins on the switch I put in was bent, and got sandwiched between the board and the switch. Didn’t notice till I already soldered the other pinDid you try another switch in the same socket? Or did it damage the PCB itself
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 20 November 2017, 16:15:12
One of the pins on the switch I put in was bent, and got sandwiched between the board and the switch. Didn’t notice till I already soldered the other pin
Good to know to watch out for that, thanks!
Post by: Arcsxum on Mon, 20 November 2017, 16:44:46
If you're having a big issue with it, send support@keyclack.com and we can issue a replacement pcb at a discounted price.Crossing my fingers!!!
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Regarding the remaining shipments, I'll be shipping a bunch today, and sending out the trackings. I expect that at least 50 of you will get tracking today.
Post by: childofthehorn on Mon, 20 November 2017, 20:48:54
Out of curiousity, how did you originally mess up the soldering? I'm nervous about soldering for the first time so I want to see what I need to avoid.Flux, use lots of flux.
Seriously, biggest mistake made by the inexperienced.
Over-fluxing can just be fixed in the cleanup with some Alcohol.
If worried, get a starter-level kit you solder from RadioShack.
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Post by: sixdeuces on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:18:51
Flux, use lots of flux
I'll second this. Flux is absolutely critical to making clean joints. Only takes a tiny bit on each joint, but everything flows out so much nicer.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 21 November 2017, 02:54:10
Flux, use lots of flux.
Seriously, biggest mistake made by the inexperienced.
Over-fluxing can just be fixed in the cleanup with some Alcohol.
I'll second this. Flux is absolutely critical to making clean joints. Only takes a tiny bit on each joint, but everything flows out so much nicer.
I've got a spool of this Kester 24-6337-0010 44 Rosin Core Solder 63/37 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00068IJWC/) to work with, does it matter what kind of flux? Got anything in particular you prefer using?
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 21 November 2017, 05:41:51
Out of curiousity, how did you originally mess up the soldering? I'm nervous about soldering for the first time so I want to see what I need to avoid.Flux, use lots of flux.
Seriously, biggest mistake made by the inexperienced.
Over-fluxing can just be fixed in the cleanup with some Alcohol.
If worried, get a starter-level kit you solder from RadioShack.
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So I just dip the tip of the solder wire into the flux before placing it against the spot and melting it down?
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 21 November 2017, 06:56:14
Edit: I use the 1mm version of this, got 400g (used to be a 1kg roll) off of ebay for 15 bucks
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Post by: Valaris on Tue, 21 November 2017, 07:08:02
This is what I have. Should I get something else entirely?
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 21 November 2017, 10:48:03
I'll add that, in my experience, there's a massive difference between using rosin-core solder alone and paste flux.
You apply a small amount of paste flux first, then heat. This burns off any oil or other residue and acid-etches the surface, priming it for solder. Once it boils off, apply your solder. As soon as it melts you will find it will all but leap onto the prepped surface. Once everything is cool, remove any flux residue with a cloth (not microfiber!) dampened with rubbing alcohol.
On small electronics like this, you can usually get by with rosin-core alone as long as everything is clean. If you find a place where the solder doesn't want to stick, that's where real flux will save the day.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:02:21
that's that ****
you really shouldn't need extra flux for a keyboard unless you're doing something very wrong
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:10:47
kester 44Yea for soldering switches and LEDs I wouldn't think flux is necessary. However I do use flux when in doing smd components and small stuff.
that's that ****
you really shouldn't need extra flux for a keyboard unless you're doing something very wrong
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:14:04
kester 44Yea for soldering switches and LEDs I wouldn't think flux is necessary. However I do use flux when in doing smd components and small stuff.
that's that ****
you really shouldn't need extra flux for a keyboard unless you're doing something very wrong
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i probably should, but i never have
Post by: kolashnikov on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:46:35
One of the pins on the switch I put in was bent, and got sandwiched between the board and the switch. Didn’t notice till I already soldered the other pin
Yikes, this happened on 2 or 3 of my switches but I noticed before soldering either pin. I was able to pop them back out and straightened the pin before soldering it to the PCB. I haven't experienced any damage to the PCB from the switch pins getting squashed.
And for solder, I've always used 60/40 rosin core for keyboards. For this project, I ordered some "fancy" Kester 63/37 rosin core. Not sure that the composition of the solder made a difference, but thinner wire is easier to work with. I considered picking up some flux too, but I read that you probably won't need it unless you're desoldering and I did not miss it during assembly.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:33:16
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:49:54
Yikes, this happened on 2 or 3 of my switches but I noticed before soldering either pin. I was able to pop them back out and straightened the pin before soldering it to the PCB. I haven't experienced any damage to the PCB from the switch pins getting squashed.63/37 solder has a slightly lower melting point than 60/40. If you're soldering by hand you won't be able to tell the difference but in industrial settings where a higher melting temperature means you have to spend more money on power, they go for the one with the lower melting temperature.
And for solder, I've always used 60/40 rosin core for keyboards. For this project, I ordered some "fancy" Kester 63/37 rosin core. Not sure that the composition of the solder made a difference, but thinner wire is easier to work with. I considered picking up some flux too, but I read that you probably won't need it unless you're desoldering and I did not miss it during assembly.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:50:49
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:59:13
What town do these ship from? I have a shipment from a place I don’t recognize and I’m out of town.I have El Monte on my tracking.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 21 November 2017, 18:04:01
Yikes, this happened on 2 or 3 of my switches but I noticed before soldering either pin. I was able to pop them back out and straightened the pin before soldering it to the PCB. I haven't experienced any damage to the PCB from the switch pins getting squashed.63/37 solder has a slightly lower melting point than 60/40. If you're soldering by hand you won't be able to tell the difference but in industrial settings where a higher melting temperature means you have to spend more money on power, they go for the one with the lower melting temperature.
And for solder, I've always used 60/40 rosin core for keyboards. For this project, I ordered some "fancy" Kester 63/37 rosin core. Not sure that the composition of the solder made a difference, but thinner wire is easier to work with. I considered picking up some flux too, but I read that you probably won't need it unless you're desoldering and I did not miss it during assembly.
It's not just about the melting point. 63/37 is an eutectic mixture which means that the whole compound melts at the same temperature in a homogeneous fashion, whereas 60/40 has a plasticity range, and this is almost definitely a difference that you CAN tell intuitively by feel, that is somewhat separate from the fact that it's a lower melting point.
In short, 63/37 mixtures 'feel' like they melt instantaneously whereas 60/40 'feel' like the mixture is more sluggish, appearing more gel-like while it's in its melting point range before reaching its liquid phase, and this manifests in a very real, easy to feel difference. 63/37 solder mixtures are easier to work with not because they're 'fancy', but because of the metallurgical nature of the particular mixture which lends itself to being easier to handle, especially if you're working with low cost, casual style soldering iron which may not have the best temperature sensing or control.
Do yourself a favour, use 63/37 mixture, it will make your life easier (doesn't have to be Kester solder, although I do prefer using Kester brand due to their excellent flux formulation which wets out the pads and contacts in a pretty even and well controlled fashion which makes for a nice consistent joint. If you're using the Kester 44 formulation, I recommend wiping off the flux residue after soldering because they are quite dark in colour and look a little ugly (supposedly non-corrosive though, so I suppose it's not technically mandatory)
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 21:30:55
Sorry tracking wasn't sent out. You'll get it tomorrow and it'll go out on Friday
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 22 November 2017, 04:34:49
Hi everyone,I just ordered something from Keyclack (emailed support@ about it), for once I hope my package isn't in the pile and hope they can be combined (hopefully dodging some import taxes) :p
Sorry tracking wasn't sent out. You'll get it tomorrow and it'll go out on Friday
Post by: Faux on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:01:15
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 23 November 2017, 08:41:50
Post by: FioraCorp on Thu, 23 November 2017, 08:49:05
Post by: Oscar2177 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 16:34:13
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 23 November 2017, 16:35:18
Have they sold the extras already?The extras aren't going up for sale until all the group buy orders have shipped.
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Post by: Oscar2177 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 16:45:52
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:16:59
Hi everyone,
Sorry tracking wasn't sent out. You'll get it tomorrow and it'll go out on Friday
Any updates? I see BKE domes being sent so hoping M65's are also making progress!
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 26 November 2017, 00:23:50
Rose Gold
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With my S3 Gold Apple Watch
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Post by: SakeJams on Sun, 26 November 2017, 00:31:17
Mini photo shoot! Loaded with the Sentraq S65 (had to do a slight modification to fit it)Mmm 2 sexy 4 me
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With my S3 Gold Apple WatchShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171126/bcfc86b63bf6ff92b8ffa2b78f462739.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171126/1db24b19aa5291fe01e747b5a9513daf.jpg)
Post by: heliar_mk on Sun, 26 November 2017, 10:25:48
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:35:24
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
Post by: jjwax on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:27:08
Any news about the time to run r2 of this?
For now they say no r2
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 26 November 2017, 13:30:39
By the way, I got the Sentraq to fit by just snipping off a little of the PCB at the top. It came close to the traces for LEDs, but I was able to avoid them.
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
If it's the fumes you are worried about, those from lead free solder are actually much more harmful due to having to use much more active flux.
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 26 November 2017, 13:32:41
By the way, I got the Sentraq to fit by just snipping off a little of the PCB at the top. It came close to the traces for LEDs, but I was able to avoid them.
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
If it's the fumes you are worried about, those from lead free solder are actually much more harmful due to having to use much more active flux.
God damn it.
Post by: SakeJams on Sun, 26 November 2017, 13:39:13
ripBy the way, I got the Sentraq to fit by just snipping off a little of the PCB at the top. It came close to the traces for LEDs, but I was able to avoid them.
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
If it's the fumes you are worried about, those from lead free solder are actually much more harmful due to having to use much more active flux.
God damn it.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 26 November 2017, 14:09:42
By the way, I got the Sentraq to fit by just snipping off a little of the PCB at the top. It came close to the traces for LEDs, but I was able to avoid them.
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
If it's the fumes you are worried about, those from lead free solder are actually much more harmful due to having to use much more active flux.
God damn it.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00FZPSEY4/
Expensive, but worth it.
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 26 November 2017, 15:04:33
By the way, I got the Sentraq to fit by just snipping off a little of the PCB at the top. It came close to the traces for LEDs, but I was able to avoid them.
I'll be using the extra one Jchan is sending me with the brass plate. Then I'll be able to swap it out whenever I want split bars vs whole.
Speaking of my mistakes, I've been using leadless solder to try to save my brain a little. I'm assuming it's why I had a bunch of difficulty (that, and I didn't switch to my fine tip while desoldering before). Switching and patience really helped.
If it's the fumes you are worried about, those from lead free solder are actually much more harmful due to having to use much more active flux.
God damn it.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00FZPSEY4/
Expensive, but worth it.
I have a cheaper one of those, but I now have another fan mounted to my work light to blow stuff toward the smoke absorber. It's definitely a far cry from the workstation hoods I had at University, but they work really well. I also have a fan in the window to vent stuff out, and keep my room door open.
The main thing is to just have circulation.
Post by: NoChance on Sun, 26 November 2017, 20:21:55
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00FZPSEY4/
Expensive, but worth it.
I think they’re being pretty liberal with the word “absorber”. Smoke mover might be more accurate.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 26 November 2017, 20:31:31
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00FZPSEY4/
Expensive, but worth it.
I think they’re being pretty liberal with the word “absorber”. Smoke mover might be more accurate.
The Carbon Filter depending on the quality does filter out the smoke in my experience. And from the reviews, I think that others agree.
Post by: Rafa_n on Mon, 27 November 2017, 11:09:22
Hi everyone,
Sorry tracking wasn't sent out. You'll get it tomorrow and it'll go out on Friday
Any update on this?
Post by: Aesomatica on Mon, 27 November 2017, 12:20:21
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 27 November 2017, 13:52:51
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps...
Yeah I'm getting a bit worried about this. If mine comes in after the 16th of December, I need to find someone to come and pick it up so it doesn't get stolen or sent back since I'll be gone almost a month.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 27 November 2017, 13:53:47
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps... Also, coming up on a year... It would be nice if this were prioritized over other sale products, such as domes and topre pins.
I know that shipping/QA-ing rubber domes is very different than m65-a's, but it still stings to see so much traction on so many other things :(
Since joining this group buy, my wife and I have begun trying for a baby, conceived, and are now expecting our first on new year's eve! Here's hoping that my baby isn't brought into a cold, unforgiving world without an m65-a for her!
I will continue to wait patiently
Post by: Madēo on Mon, 27 November 2017, 18:33:05
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps... Also, coming up on a year... It would be nice if this were prioritized over other sale products, such as domes and topre pins.
I know that shipping/QA-ing rubber domes is very different than m65-a's, but it still stings to see so much traction on so many other things :(
Since joining this group buy, my wife and I have begun trying for a baby, conceived, and are now expecting our first on new year's eve! Here's hoping that my baby isn't brought into a cold, unforgiving world without an m65-a for her!
I will continue to wait patiently
Wow congrats buddy! Really puts into perspective the time elapsed since group buy, I seriously can't wait to for the m-65 but I have a feeling it won't be in 2017.
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 22:15:06
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps... Also, coming up on a year... It would be nice if this were prioritized over other sale products, such as domes and topre pins.
I know that shipping/QA-ing rubber domes is very different than m65-a's, but it still stings to see so much traction on so many other things :(
Since joining this group buy, my wife and I have begun trying for a baby, conceived, and are now expecting our first on new year's eve! Here's hoping that my baby isn't brought into a cold, unforgiving world without an m65-a for her!
I will continue to wait patiently
Just dropped in to say congrats on the baby dude!
Post by: Ouster on Tue, 28 November 2017, 03:26:21
I've seen Jchan recently say that R2 will be after all R1 gets shipped out. This may just be extras, I think he has enough interest after people have seen completed boards that he could run another full buy successfully.Any news about the time to run r2 of this?
For now they say no r2
I would personally like a chance to place an order as I only started looking into custom builds a few months ago.
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Post by: FioraCorp on Tue, 28 November 2017, 03:44:28
keyclack: @abckeyboards we're currently still processing them at this stage. At the office now packing them and should have a bunch out for tomorrow :)
Go ahead and start crossing your fingers and toes, boys n girls. Also, that's really fantastic JJ congrats to you and your wife :thumb:
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 28 November 2017, 08:26:05
I've seen Jchan recently say that R2 will be after all R1 gets shipped out. This may just be extras, I think he has enough interest after people have seen completed boards that he could run another full buy successfully.Any news about the time to run r2 of this?
For now they say no r2
I would personally like a chance to place an order as I only started looking into custom builds a few months ago.
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Where did you see that, and how recently? Last he posted in this thread was no R2. He will be putting extras on his site, however.
Post by: pon10 on Tue, 28 November 2017, 08:34:33
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 28 November 2017, 08:42:58
Can we please have a "honest" estimate on when the last M65`s will go out? THANKS :thumb:
soon ™
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 28 November 2017, 09:15:25
Can we please have a "honest" estimate on when the last M65`s will go out? THANKS :thumb:
2018
Post by: __ on Tue, 28 November 2017, 15:57:30
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps... Also, coming up on a year... It would be nice if this were prioritized over other sale products, such as domes and topre pins.
I know that shipping/QA-ing rubber domes is very different than m65-a's, but it still stings to see so much traction on so many other things :(
Since joining this group buy, my wife and I have begun trying for a baby, conceived, and are now expecting our first on new year's eve! Here's hoping that my baby isn't brought into a cold, unforgiving world without an m65-a for her!
I will continue to wait patiently
Congrats! We're in much the same boat. Since joining this buy my wife and I had a complicated miscarry, surgery for it, recovery from that, and then a successful one! We're expecting mid-March.
Hope your wife's pregnancy has been calmer than ours though. My wife's had a rough go of it so far. I'm hoping the M-65a's show soon so I can give the wife hers, every little distraction seems to count lately.
Post by: Ouster on Tue, 28 November 2017, 16:10:50
I saw it on this thread, he answered someone's question I believe about R2. He may have meant extras or the question may have been about extras like I said but I definitely saw after R1 are all shipped more will be up for sale.I've seen Jchan recently say that R2 will be after all R1 gets shipped out. This may just be extras, I think he has enough interest after people have seen completed boards that he could run another full buy successfully.Any news about the time to run r2 of this?
For now they say no r2
I would personally like a chance to place an order as I only started looking into custom builds a few months ago.
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Where did you see that, and how recently? Last he posted in this thread was no R2. He will be putting extras on his site, however.
I will look for the comment when I get home tonight.
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Post by: jjwax on Tue, 28 November 2017, 16:50:02
Humbly request you send these out soon, J, so people can receive them and they don't sit unguarded on our front steps... Also, coming up on a year... It would be nice if this were prioritized over other sale products, such as domes and topre pins.
I know that shipping/QA-ing rubber domes is very different than m65-a's, but it still stings to see so much traction on so many other things :(
Since joining this group buy, my wife and I have begun trying for a baby, conceived, and are now expecting our first on new year's eve! Here's hoping that my baby isn't brought into a cold, unforgiving world without an m65-a for her!
I will continue to wait patiently
Congrats! We're in much the same boat. Since joining this buy my wife and I had a complicated miscarry, surgery for it, recovery from that, and then a successful one! We're expecting mid-March.
Hope your wife's pregnancy has been calmer than ours though. My wife's had a rough go of it so far. I'm hoping the M-65a's show soon so I can give the wife hers, every little distraction seems to count lately.
Oh man, I feel you big time!
We also dealt with a miscarriage, thankfully we didn't have to go the d&c route. Nothing has been more devastating than that experience.
Congrats to you and your wife, though!
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 03:37:49
Can we please have a "honest" estimate on when the last M65`s will go out? THANKS :thumb:
soon ™
Was hoping the big man was able to answer for himself :'( but he is properly gon clacking somewhere in a dome of plastic :p
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 04:43:25
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 05:01:05
I've received a tracking number, so there's some going out at least.
Great news! Thanks for sharing! :)
Post by: wongie on Wed, 29 November 2017, 05:10:23
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 05:51:49
Anyone know if these tracking confirmations that JChan sends out are automated or something? Reason I ask is that I just got mine a few minutes ago which I'm happy about but I'm more curious that it's like 3am and literally the middle of the night over in LA atm.
Pretty sure they're not automatic, as there was an error in my shipping address and JChan (or whoever was answering the emails) was replying within minutes.
Post by: wongie on Wed, 29 November 2017, 05:57:03
Anyone know if these tracking confirmations that JChan sends out are automated or something? Reason I ask is that I just got mine a few minutes ago which I'm happy about but I'm more curious that it's like 3am and literally the middle of the night over in LA atm.
Pretty sure they're not automatic, as there was an error in my shipping address and JChan (or whoever was answering the emails) was replying within minutes.
Guess he's really burning that midnight oil!
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:00:48
i'm sorry for not being able to meet last week's shipping date.
tldr: worst thanksgiving ever, and it's kinda dragged out through the whole weekend.
i'd rather not go into details, but it felt like one of those "reality tv shows" that some enjoy watching.
---
Anyways, I've already emailed all the tracking for whatever has been packed. I might have sent 2 trackings out, but I sent it out in the same thread. Please ignore the first one..
If you got a tracking, and are wondering what address is has been sent to, please reply to that email. I used the most updated tracking I have (according to whatever recent email you sent to me).
---
We are currently almost fulfilled with the GB.
We have (at this point) 60 outstanding units to ship out.
We currently have 80 extra units that can be claimed, most likely sometime in December, and shipped via DHL/FEDEX ONLY (because of holidays).
We also currently have about 30 or so units that are considered "B" stock due to some QC issues that I just can't give to GB participants - however, the boards will be sold with a detailed "defects" list when sold later. These are units, that cannot be fixed due to a slight CNC issue, that is (for some boards) somewhat unnoticeable.
---
Now I've been getting some emails concerning brass plates extras this, and extra something that.
Sometime in January, I will have new plates available for purchase (no gb), if anyone is interested. Most likely I'll get 50 units of brass plates, identical to the ones that people have received.
Only original GB participants can claim these.
---
Lastly, I'm currently working on a small "gift" that I'd like to give all original participants, that will be 100% free (just cover postage), but that will be revealed at a later stage, and the message will be sent to your email once I have the gift in hand, and the GB is 100% fulfilled.
---
I hope all concerns have been addressed & have a good morning to those on the East Coast.
edit:
if you have a concern, just email jchan@keyclack.com with your M65A order number as the thread title. I'll be addressing those personally, as I've been running around and haven't had a moment for anything these days.
Post by: wongie on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:08:54
Lastly, I'm currently working on a small "gift" that I'd like to give all original participants, that will be 100% free (just cover postage), but that will be revealed at a later stage, and the message will be sent to your email once I have the gift in hand, and the GB is 100% fulfilled.
This has tickled my curiosity. That said, isn't it like 4am? Appreciate the dedication you're putting in to getting the rest of the boards sent out, but go to bed already!
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:16:14
Hype levels skyrocketing
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:18:59
Lastly, I'm currently working on a small "gift" that I'd like to give all original participants, that will be 100% free (just cover postage), but that will be revealed at a later stage, and the message will be sent to your email once I have the gift in hand, and the GB is 100% fulfilled.
This has tickled my curiosity. That said, isn't it like 4am? Appreciate the dedication you're putting in to getting the rest of the boards sent out, but go to bed already!
4:17AM or 7:17 in East coast.
But it is 8:17PM in Beijing, and I have to stay up late sometimes to speak to our overseas partners as they have two shifts of work, and usually talk to me around this hour the most.
but most important, I wanted to email people their tracking before I finished my day, and started my next.
cheers and i hope you're excited for the gift :)
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:28:07
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:32:50
Out of curiousity, in the extra pieces (even the B stock stuff), do you have any spare aluminum bottoms? I'm very much considering switching over from nylon since I won't be using the underglow anyway.
aite last question (for the night).
most of them are top pieces unfortunately.
if i can recall correctly, 99% of all bottom pieces have been flawless (if you take away the tolerance issue with the nylon, but it is bendable and such, so it is forgiving).
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 29 November 2017, 08:24:05
Post by: lilschmutz on Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:21:40
Had to double check.... yep I did order a m65-A. Guess I’m one of the lucky few unshipped. Save the best for last, right? Right?
Right there with you. Still patiently waiting!
Post by: jraper13 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:38:47
Post by: FioraCorp on Wed, 29 November 2017, 14:48:57
Post by: dohmain on Wed, 29 November 2017, 15:46:24
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:01:13
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Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:14:19
mine still hasn't shipped either, we can all wait together! Hopefully the rest will all go out soon.
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Same here.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:17:04
I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
--
Hope this all ends soooooooooooon.
Post by: kitchenace13 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:51:44
I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
I'm quite happy to pay extra for extra feet to go along with my extra base. Thanks for running this GB and hope to see more from you in the future!
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:57:17
Same, it's hard to decide which base to choose, both are nifty.I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
I'm quite happy to pay extra for extra feet to go along with my extra base. Thanks for running this GB and hope to see more from you in the future!
Post by: obviouslygene on Thu, 30 November 2017, 02:57:28
hi everyone,
i'm sorry for not being able to meet last week's shipping date.
tldr: worst thanksgiving ever, and it's kinda dragged out through the whole weekend.
i'd rather not go into details, but it felt like one of those "reality tv shows" that some enjoy watching.
---
Anyways, I've already emailed all the tracking for whatever has been packed. I might have sent 2 trackings out, but I sent it out in the same thread. Please ignore the first one..
If you got a tracking, and are wondering what address is has been sent to, please reply to that email. I used the most updated tracking I have (according to whatever recent email you sent to me).
---
We are currently almost fulfilled with the GB.
We have (at this point) 60 outstanding units to ship out.
We currently have 80 extra units that can be claimed, most likely sometime in December, and shipped via DHL/FEDEX ONLY (because of holidays).
We also currently have about 30 or so units that are considered "B" stock due to some QC issues that I just can't give to GB participants - however, the boards will be sold with a detailed "defects" list when sold later. These are units, that cannot be fixed due to a slight CNC issue, that is (for some boards) somewhat unnoticeable.
---
Now I've been getting some emails concerning brass plates extras this, and extra something that.
Sometime in January, I will have new plates available for purchase (no gb), if anyone is interested. Most likely I'll get 50 units of brass plates, identical to the ones that people have received.
Only original GB participants can claim these.
---
Lastly, I'm currently working on a small "gift" that I'd like to give all original participants, that will be 100% free (just cover postage), but that will be revealed at a later stage, and the message will be sent to your email once I have the gift in hand, and the GB is 100% fulfilled.
---
I hope all concerns have been addressed & have a good morning to those on the East Coast.
edit:
if you have a concern, just email jchan@keyclack.com with your M65A order number as the thread title. I'll be addressing those personally, as I've been running around and haven't had a moment for anything these days.
Hi Jchan, glad to see you doing well and that the m65-a gb is going well. i know i didnt get a brass plate in the beginning but i think i might get one now. I was wondering if there are any more spare pcbs as well?
Thank you in advance for the gift! Exciting news!
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 30 November 2017, 05:50:00
Same, it's hard to decide which base to choose, both are nifty.I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
I'm quite happy to pay extra for extra feet to go along with my extra base. Thanks for running this GB and hope to see more from you in the future!
If you decide to go for the nylon base let me know, I could buy the metal one off you.
Post by: Faux on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:28:38
I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
I'm quite happy to pay extra for extra feet to go along with my extra base. Thanks for running this GB and hope to see more from you in the future!
I'm confused on the wording of this. Does this mean that if we purchased an extra base, there are no extra included rubber feet for them?
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 30 November 2017, 13:04:27
Yup, that’s correct. You’ll need to buy the feet for your base. Like Jchan said, it was an oversight.I've ordered extra rubber feet, if people are interested in those.
We'll likely have them up with the retail kits as an addon option (not replacement), addon, as the pricing was not accounted for, and was an oversight when we put the extra base option.
I'm quite happy to pay extra for extra feet to go along with my extra base. Thanks for running this GB and hope to see more from you in the future!
I'm confused on the wording of this. Does this mean that if we purchased an extra base, there are no extra included rubber feet for them?
Post by: Rumblehotep on Thu, 30 November 2017, 19:45:14
Some day...
Post by: ghostdeini on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:28:22
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:38:14
Will go out later this week
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:40:46
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
Post by: joostflux on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:51:53
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 30 November 2017, 23:05:47
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 01 December 2017, 00:29:20
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
Post by: SakeJams on Fri, 01 December 2017, 00:32:14
>Spends $3k on keyboardMaybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
>Never uses it for fear of damaging it
>Collects dust on shelf forever
>rip
Post by: sixdeuces on Fri, 01 December 2017, 12:01:50
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 01 December 2017, 12:27:52
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
I'd be really interested in hearing about the cost of an M65-A machined out of brass in some sort of a silver finish. Of any of those, that's what I'm probably crazy enough to pay for.
Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 01 December 2017, 15:17:32
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
R2 confirmed. ;D
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 December 2017, 23:32:35
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
R2 confirmed. ;D
slow down there, hoss.... I still don't have my order shipped from R1
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 01 December 2017, 23:57:23
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 02 December 2017, 03:57:27
-1 for exceptionally expensive special editions that most users can't even afford to have a shot at getting.Are you being serious?
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 06:28:09
-1 for exceptionally expensive special editions that most users can't even afford to have a shot at getting.
You crazy.
Show me da Brass M65. Do want.
Post by: Valaris on Sat, 02 December 2017, 09:02:27
Post by: Dodgy on Sat, 02 December 2017, 11:29:22
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
I would be interested in a raw aluminum case, if that's a possibility. I'd really like to do a mirror polish and custom ano.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:15:35
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
I would be interested in a raw aluminum case, if that's a possibility. I'd really like to do a mirror polish and custom ano.
Aluminium Oxide is porous, I am unsure if you can anodise aluminium and shiny finish at the same time. Never seen it done before
Post by: kacase on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:32:44
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
I would be interested in a raw aluminum case, if that's a possibility. I'd really like to do a mirror polish and custom ano.
Aluminium Oxide is porous, I am unsure if you can anodise aluminium and shiny finish at the same time. Never seen it done before
See the iPhone 7 jet black which - although black - is just anodised and polished and super shiny/close to mirror finish
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:51:36
See the iPhone 7 jet black which - although black - is just anodised and polished and super shiny/close to mirror finish
you can't polish anodizing, since the actual anodized layer is microns thick
they polish it first, then anodize it
see: revo RJ for more info
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 16:16:19
I'm assuming it's normal the tracking hasn't updated from "Awaiting item" since Wednesday morning right? I think I recall you saying they pick them up on certain days?
They pick up every day from our office.
Post by: Valaris on Sat, 02 December 2017, 16:46:25
I'm assuming it's normal the tracking hasn't updated from "Awaiting item" since Wednesday morning right? I think I recall you saying they pick them up on certain days?
They pick up every day from our office.
Should I be worried that it still says "PRE-SHIPMENT INFO SENT TO USPS, USPS AWAITING ITEM" then?
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sat, 02 December 2017, 16:51:16
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 17:10:28
Shipping volume is currently high due to Holidays. It will most likely get scanned in at City of Industry hub, or another hub that is closer to the destination.
We had a case recently where it took 9 days to update.
Please wait for it to update.
Post by: Dodgy on Sat, 02 December 2017, 22:10:20
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
Looked into this, it is toooo expensive.
I looked into SS too ; too expensive for any regular person.
How expensive? Some of us might be crazy enough.
I think to get a perfect unit it was like 3k + or something, and it didn't scale properly with more units purchased; for SS.
I forgot the brass version cost, but I can revisit that. Maybe I can get a few units made for that one. Would be really nice to have in PVD w/ Mirror Black, Gold, and Silver of course.
My biggest fear however is damage for it. The slightest scratch would make me cry.
I would be interested in a raw aluminum case, if that's a possibility. I'd really like to do a mirror polish and custom ano.
Aluminium Oxide is porous, I am unsure if you can anodise aluminium and shiny finish at the same time. Never seen it done before
Just hand polish the raw aluminum and then anodize. We did it for years with paintball guns.
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 03 December 2017, 04:06:26
Post by: Dominathan on Sun, 03 December 2017, 12:38:49
Maybe it's the cold meds but I had a dream today of an M65-A made completely out of mirrored brass.
Some day...
I’m not gonna lie, I was thinking the same ****. It’s true endgame. When we’ve blown all the money on a keyboard, we’re finally done.
Post by: purrito on Mon, 04 December 2017, 11:53:26
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Post by: Gamecat on Mon, 04 December 2017, 19:14:05
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:28:54
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:37:07
Post by: SakeJams on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:40:28
Board came in and lemme tell ya, it's nuts. Also idk what switches to use.... v.blacks or OG zealinears... or get the new silent blacks...?V blacks for sure, but I've also been curious about silent blacks :B
Post by: base on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:42:28
Anyone happen to know what size the screws for the GMK stabs are? My set came without them.
Eyeballing them, pretty sure they are M2*4
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:15:15
Anyone happen to know what size the screws for the GMK stabs are? My set came without them.
Eyeballing them, pretty sure they are M2*4
this is correct
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:23:30
Anyone happen to know what size the screws for the GMK stabs are? My set came without them.
email me with your order number ; i'll ship em to you.
Post by: SakeJams on Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:24:03
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:33:52
Anyone happen to know what size the screws for the GMK stabs are? My set came without them.
email me with your order number ; i'll ship em to you.
golden god
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 05 December 2017, 07:22:44
@jchan (or anyone else) is USPS doing signature delivery for these?
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 05 December 2017, 09:16:02
welp - today is the day. my m65-a is out for delivery!
@jchan (or anyone else) is USPS doing signature delivery for these?
I believe i had to sign for mine.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 05 December 2017, 09:39:21
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 05 December 2017, 10:13:13
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 05 December 2017, 10:17:53
welp - today is the day. my m65-a is out for delivery!
@jchan (or anyone else) is USPS doing signature delivery for these?
I believe i had to sign for mine.
Just arrived! I did not have to sign.
Finally the wait is over! Can't wait to build this sucker tonight
Post by: jraper13 on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:02:57
(https://i.imgur.com/0MO5hCx.jpg)
full imgur album: https://imgur.com/a/DzdJx (https://imgur.com/a/DzdJx)
jchan thanks so much for putting this on, was definitely worth the wait
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:34:03
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 05 December 2017, 19:05:01
Anyone else still waiting for tracking to update? Been 5 days now since I got the label created message. I'm not freaking out yet or anything, just impatient!
Give it a few more days. I'm sure shipping is at an all time high now due to the holidays and such.
Post by: msilvv on Tue, 05 December 2017, 22:12:09
Post by: onlinelife on Tue, 05 December 2017, 22:51:41
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 05 December 2017, 23:12:07
Anyone else bootmapper pcb keeps on disconnecting and connecting back randomly?
Probably a dumb question, but did you try a different usb cable?
Post by: rioc on Wed, 06 December 2017, 02:54:20
Post by: Sarillexis on Wed, 06 December 2017, 07:08:50
how much are there still to go? (can't wait for mine to ship :) no rush, just looking forward to it)
Somewhere between 30-50 is my best guess. Jchan has said he hopes to have them all shipped by the 12th, but gave himself till the 15th.
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:37:45
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Post by: SakeJams on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:38:25
My m65 came yesterday. This board is 10/10!;-; it's beautiful
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Post by: onlinelife on Wed, 06 December 2017, 22:20:22
Anyone else bootmapper pcb keeps on disconnecting and connecting back randomly?
Probably a dumb question, but did you try a different usb cable?
Sorry probably should've included some information. Tried 3 different USB cables and 2 computers. Pretty sure its the pcb.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 07 December 2017, 07:40:59
Anyone else bootmapper pcb keeps on disconnecting and connecting back randomly?
Probably a dumb question, but did you try a different usb cable?
Sorry probably should've included some information. Tried 3 different USB cables and 2 computers. Pretty sure its the pcb.
I would email keyclack support. You probably need a replacement. I’m sure it’s fixable but will require some troubleshooting and proper equipment.
Did you test it before you built it?
If you want to take close up photos of the back of the PCB we can take a look here.
Post by: energyd on Thu, 07 December 2017, 08:05:35
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 07 December 2017, 08:41:20
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
Post by: energyd on Thu, 07 December 2017, 09:03:37
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 07 December 2017, 09:32:05
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Well if you could go back in time and join the group buy last January, it would cost you somewhere along these lines (price will vary I'm giving you an estimate based on the options i chose)
M65-a (This includes the regular pcb not QMK, the nylon base, the regular plate not brass, eight, and space grey case, gmk screw in stabilizers): $285 + $50 Shipping
~75 zealios 65g switches: $60 +$10 shipping
Coiled cable: ~$35 including shipping
Keycaps: Well I spent $250 on SA Danger zone because that's because I'm insane.
So total so far I'm looking at about $700 and its not assembled yet.
Again your mileage will vary based on options you choose.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 07 December 2017, 12:27:46
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Well if you could go back in time and join the group buy last January, it would cost you somewhere along these lines (price will vary I'm giving you an estimate based on the options i chose)
M65-a (This includes the regular pcb not QMK, the nylon base, the regular plate not brass, eight, and space grey case, gmk screw in stabilizers): $285 + $50 Shipping
~75 zealios 65g switches: $60 +$10 shipping
Coiled cable: ~$35 including shipping
Keycaps: Well I spent $250 on SA Danger zone because that's because I'm insane.
So total so far I'm looking at about $700 and its not assembled yet.
Again your mileage will vary based on options you choose.
Wow, that's nuts. I never realized the true cost I've dumped into all this! I've never really checked the market for unbuilt vs built project keyboards like these, but do they typically sell for more or for less when the boards are completely built and functioning?
I'd imagine that unbuilt ones are sought after so others could build them as they please, but built boards have labor put into them and are fully functional.
Post by: onlinelife on Thu, 07 December 2017, 12:41:46
Anyone else bootmapper pcb keeps on disconnecting and connecting back randomly?
Probably a dumb question, but did you try a different usb cable?
Sorry probably should've included some information. Tried 3 different USB cables and 2 computers. Pretty sure its the pcb.
I would email keyclack support. You probably need a replacement. I’m sure it’s fixable but will require some troubleshooting and proper equipment.
Did you test it before you built it?
If you want to take close up photos of the back of the PCB we can take a look here.
Oh yeah it was working for months and all of a sudden issues started happening. Didn't spill water or anything like that.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 07 December 2017, 16:45:20
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Stabs were included from gmk.
You gotta factor in "flip potential".
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 07 December 2017, 23:05:46
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Stabs were included from gmk.
You gotta factor in "flip potential".
I hope when you sell your extras, your markup isn't going to be huge. Mechmini 2.0 had a 100% markup and only recently decreased that by 50% for black Friday sale and has been at the price ever since. And he still has many color options remaining.
I guess people are not happy with the markup and Mechkeys is finding it difficult to sell his remaining units.
Post by: Oscar2177 on Fri, 08 December 2017, 14:14:27
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 08 December 2017, 14:16:59
Are the extras going to be sold here? And what will be the price?
Most likely on Keyclack.com and the price is TBD
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 09 December 2017, 00:19:52
Are the extras going to be sold here? And what will be the price?
You should expect to pay 150% to 200% of the GB cost, possibly more but not likely less
Post by: zaerst on Sat, 09 December 2017, 14:55:57
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sat, 09 December 2017, 16:00:16
Cherry MX Silent Black GB shipped: check
Nautilus shipping notification: check
Hype level 11 engaged: check
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 09 December 2017, 19:29:45
Guys, I'm wondering what is total cost of the whole thing shipped (to US) and assembled.
The cost when the group buy opened or the cost now that its on Mechmarket? Because if its the latter I've been seeing those puppies go for $600-$700.
The GB cost plus switches, stabs, lubs etc..
Stabs were included from gmk.
You gotta factor in "flip potential".
I hope when you sell your extras, your markup isn't going to be huge. Mechmini 2.0 had a 100% markup and only recently decreased that by 50% for black Friday sale and has been at the price ever since. And he still has many color options remaining.
I guess people are not happy with the markup and Mechkeys is finding it difficult to sell his remaining units.
Ehhh, I don't really think a 40% (which is very niche) is really comparable to one of the most hyped keyboards of the year. There is very little chance of there being trouble selling whatever extras remain because there is way more demand than supply. Nothing against MM2, but no one is begging for an MM2 R2, let alone while R1 is still running, and THAT is not without a reason.
Post by: ghostdeini on Sun, 10 December 2017, 10:42:48
I got my tracking number last Thursday (11/30) via FedEx, with an estimated delivery of Friday (12/08). It sat on "Shipping Label Created" all week, but I figured FedEx might be doing something wonky with the holidays. With that said... It's now 12/10 and it's still on "Shipping Label Created".
Anybody else in the same boat?
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Sun, 10 December 2017, 11:59:14
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 10 December 2017, 13:25:01
Question to those of you with non-updating tracking numbers... have you seen any progress yet?Mine was on route to Los Angeles to be then transferred to Canada but it got rerouted to Louisville where it's currently, still on it's way to Montreal. I can only assume the fires in LA California last week played a role in this?
I got my tracking number last Thursday (11/30) via FedEx, with an estimated delivery of Friday (12/08). It sat on "Shipping Label Created" all week, but I figured FedEx might be doing something wonky with the holidays. With that said... It's now 12/10 and it's still on "Shipping Label Created".
Anybody else in the same boat?
Post by: Aesomatica on Sun, 10 December 2017, 23:54:22
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 01:48:43
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 02:29:22
Just packed a dozen more just now.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
thanks bud
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 12 December 2017, 07:23:07
Just packed a dozen more just now.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
Thanks, JChan! Keep it up!
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:38:33
Just packed a dozen more just now.Awesome. Thanks. Still hoping I can get a silver top once extras are up. Cheers!
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:52:46
Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:03:21
Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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would be nice, yes. I still have this lurking feeling that my order is lost in space
Post by: naut on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:04:17
Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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would be nice, yes. I still have this lurking feeling that my order is lost in space
Lol same here man.
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Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:08:52
Yup that's why I was asking, I just assume mine is at the very bottom of the pile.Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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would be nice, yes. I still have this lurking feeling that my order is lost in space
Lol same here man.
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Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:14:01
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:16:38
53 / 448 are left.Sweet, thanks for the reply. My guess was going to be 50 left so I wasn't far off.
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Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:18:08
Yup that's why I was asking, I just assume mine is at the very bottom of the pile.Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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would be nice, yes. I still have this lurking feeling that my order is lost in space
Lol same here man.
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I was assuming that mine was at the bottom of the pile but that can be your spot. I'll be the next one up from the very bottom of the pile!
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:23:40
As long as the last and the second to last get shipped at the same time. LolYup that's why I was asking, I just assume mine is at the very bottom of the pile.Just packed a dozen more just now.Hey jchan can you give us a rough estimate of how many are left to ship.
Sent out tracking to emails on file.
If you need to know the address, please reply to said email.
We're almost done with this, thanks for sticking it out, cheers.
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would be nice, yes. I still have this lurking feeling that my order is lost in space
Lol same here man.
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I was assuming that mine was at the bottom of the pile but that can be your spot. I'll be the next one up from the very bottom of the pile!
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Post by: ghostdeini on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:53:13
Do you know what's up with that? I'm getting kind of worried since it's been 12 days without any movement...
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Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 12 December 2017, 11:22:04
Hey jchan, I sent you an email before the weekend, but just in case that slipped through the cracks-- my tracking number still has not updated from 11/30 and it just says label created.
Same here.
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 13:15:38
Post by: ghostdeini on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:59:45
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 14 December 2017, 08:04:50
Just letting you, I've been on the phone with Canada Post and USPS for the last couple of days, neither seem to be able to find my package anywhere. USPS says they gave it to CP 3 days ago. CP says they never got it.
I'm waiting for a call back with an update but they mentioned the sender might have to be the one to start an official inquiry.
Post by: kacase on Thu, 14 December 2017, 08:26:52
Can’t wait to unbox this beauty!
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Post by: ghostdeini on Thu, 14 December 2017, 09:11:50
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Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 14 December 2017, 09:53:51
@jchan94
Just letting you, I've been on the phone with Canada Post and USPS for the last couple of days, neither seem to be able to find my package anywhere. USPS says they gave it to CP 3 days ago. CP says they never got it.
I'm waiting for a call back with an update but they mentioned the sender might have to be the one to start an official inquiry.
you'll probably want to send this to support@keyclack.com
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 14 December 2017, 10:51:29
@jchan94
Just letting you, I've been on the phone with Canada Post and USPS for the last couple of days, neither seem to be able to find my package anywhere. USPS says they gave it to CP 3 days ago. CP says they never got it.
I'm waiting for a call back with an update but they mentioned the sender might have to be the one to start an official inquiry.
Man, that sucks really bad. Exact same thing happened with my white fox from Massdrop a year back. FedEx said USPS had it. USPS said they never got it. Sorry to say that 3 months after going through calls and web forms I got an apology email from USPS that they must have lost my package. Form email said they hardly ever lose packages and to make sure a return address is always clearly added to the package in the future. I was floored. Massdrop refunded me. Of course they had no extras to replace it.
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 14 December 2017, 13:30:09
What a relief!
Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:16:41
Good update. I just got a call from Canada Post. They say it was part of the holiday delays but the package has been found and the tracking number has been updated.Oh man, really happy for you! I'm still hoping mine turn up as well.
What a relief!
I hope JChan is doing well. I hear from multiple people that he's not responding to Skype etc.
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:24:52
He replied to my email within an hour or two today.Good update. I just got a call from Canada Post. They say it was part of the holiday delays but the package has been found and the tracking number has been updated.Oh man, really happy for you! I'm still hoping mine turn up as well.
What a relief!
I hope JChan is doing well. I hear from multiple people that he's not responding to Skype etc.
Post by: StoringData on Thu, 14 December 2017, 18:40:24
Post by: Feivis on Thu, 14 December 2017, 19:24:21
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 14 December 2017, 19:44:13
At least you guys got tracking... Anyone else still without tracking until now? :'(As of last update there are still 53 boards that haven't shipped, so 53 of us still don't have tracking.
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Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 14 December 2017, 21:17:33
Post by: sixdeuces on Thu, 14 December 2017, 21:41:03
Post by: jraper13 on Fri, 15 December 2017, 13:35:47
Or is it possible there is an issue with like the PCB
EDIT: Redownloaded the firmware and it seems to be working now. Phewwww :D
Post by: Sarillexis on Mon, 18 December 2017, 07:25:51
Post by: wongie on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:28:18
(https://i.imgur.com/vH23dSh.jpeg)
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:33:34
Mine was sent out on the 29th of Nov and arrived today. Despite my board being one of those caught up in the delay having now assembled it and using it as of now I can say this board is, without doubt, worth the wait of any delay.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vH23dSh.jpeg)
Like the monochrome theme going on there! Seeing all these post with people saying, "It's totally worth the wait", doesn't make the waiting any easier though. It just makes me more excited and impatient!
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:12:07
Mine was sent out on the 29th of Nov and arrived today. Despite my board being one of those caught up in the delay having now assembled it and using it as of now I can say this board is, without doubt, worth the wait of any delay.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vH23dSh.jpeg)
Dang, that looks nice and clean. What switches did you put in it?
Post by: wongie on Tue, 19 December 2017, 03:04:44
Dang, that looks nice and clean. What switches did you put in it?
Unlubed cherry clears with 62g SPRiT springs for the alphas, same for the mods except I used cherry tactile greys to colour match the grey granite caps. Don't know why I colour matched them when you can't even see them :)) oh well at least i'll know.
(https://imgur.com/C6R7x9Y.jpeg)
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 19 December 2017, 08:37:43
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:36:49
Post by: aneasyusername on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:15:01
Mine showed up today! Sadly, one corner of the box is slightly crushed (thanks, FedEx) but the contents all seem fine.Mine showed up today too! Box was fine, but there seems to be a small bit of discoloration in the finish on the top of the case. I'd much rather have a crushed box.
Post by: SakeJams on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:16:50
A E S T H E T I CDang, that looks nice and clean. What switches did you put in it?
Unlubed cherry clears with 62g SPRiT springs for the alphas, same for the mods except I used cherry tactile greys to colour match the grey granite caps. Don't know why I colour matched them when you can't even see them :)) oh well at least i'll know.Show Image(https://imgur.com/C6R7x9Y.jpeg)
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:47:13
Post by: Dodgy on Wed, 20 December 2017, 01:04:06
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 20 December 2017, 03:18:05
**oops, looks like a couple of pictures got flipped. oh well lol
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Wed, 20 December 2017, 15:54:36
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 21 December 2017, 20:03:32
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 21 December 2017, 20:10:40
First time soldering question: If I accidentally soldered a switch into the wrong hole (regular caps lock vs stepped caps lock for example), technically that switch is the only one I need to desolder to replace it? I don't need to desolder everything do I?Nah, just that one switch and you will be good to go
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Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:22:59
Photos here: https://imgur.com/a/kfZkg
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:37:40
We have (at this point) 60 outstanding units to ship out.
Just packed a dozen more just now.
53 / 448 are left.
Numbers don't really make sense, but I'm guessing 12 or so a week go out. Which means that's 2, sometimes 3 a day. Are they not in pre-cut foam and purpose-made boxes?
Either way, I assume we're around 50 units left to ship. At this rate, accounting for stopping for holidays, I presume shipping will finish early February. Is this about right?
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 22 December 2017, 16:00:03
I got around to building my M65-A today. I sadly ended up making some costly mistakes. Luckily, in the end everything works as expected.
Photos here: https://imgur.com/a/kfZkg
Beautiful keyboard pics! and nice build log, really great that you kept in the pictures about the steps you needed to consider in addition. No doubt this is very helpful to others for their builds. Great job :thumb:
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Fri, 22 December 2017, 16:04:46
@people; I have a QMK /PCB related question. Today when I turned on my PC I noticed two pairs of keys had switched. I have a split backspace with backslash programmed on the left key 1u and backspace is where backslash usually is. My bottom row has a 6.25u space and starts with Control, Win, Alt. Win and Alt were somehow swapped today as well as backspace and backslash. I cleared the EEPROM and make'd and reflash a fresh .hex file which somehow fixed the swapped backspace and backslash. Win and Alt were still swapped. I reconfigured the keymap.H file to swap K41 (previously Win) with K43 (previously Alt) and now the keys are all back in the right order. It makes it a bit confusing though for example I will probably forget the next time when I edit the keymap. Has anyone ever had this happen, and know how to reset or fix this? I think it might have happened during a PC reboot cycle as I also had an issue with the underglow not turning off when the PC was off.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:00:56
Nice build Brammy good thing you got it turned around in the end~!
@people; I have a QMK /PCB related question. Today when I turned on my PC I noticed two pairs of keys had switched. I have a split backspace with backslash programmed on the left key 1u and backspace is where backslash usually is. My bottom row has a 6.25u space and starts with Control, Win, Alt. Win and Alt were somehow swapped today as well as backspace and backslash. I cleared the EEPROM and make'd and reflash a fresh .hex file which somehow fixed the swapped backspace and backslash. Win and Alt were still swapped. I reconfigured the keymap.H file to swap K41 (previously Win) with K43 (previously Alt) and now the keys are all back in the right order. It makes it a bit confusing though for example I will probably forget the next time when I edit the keymap. Has anyone ever had this happen, and know how to reset or fix this? I think it might have happened during a PC reboot cycle as I also had an issue with the underglow not turning off when the PC was off.
Never had this happened to me before, are you using OSX or Windows? This sounds a little bit like OSX's behaviour when you flip the modifiers around in the system settings. But I don't own a Mac, so this is purely conjecture.
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:12:29
Post by: yottagray on Fri, 22 December 2017, 19:32:35
Sad to see that the anodizing was scratched though before I even got it out of the box. :( On the bright side it's on the rear of the board so I shouldn't see it too often.
Check out some pics of the beefy (and beautiful) packaging: https://imgur.com/a/h3A3P (https://imgur.com/a/h3A3P)
Post by: cooperred on Fri, 22 December 2017, 23:57:00
Anyone else bootmapper pcb keeps on disconnecting and connecting back randomly?
Probably a dumb question, but did you try a different usb cable?
Sorry probably should've included some information. Tried 3 different USB cables and 2 computers. Pretty sure its the pcb.
I would email keyclack support. You probably need a replacement. I’m sure it’s fixable but will require some troubleshooting and proper equipment.
Did you test it before you built it?
If you want to take close up photos of the back of the PCB we can take a look here.
Oh yeah it was working for months and all of a sudden issues started happening. Didn't spill water or anything like that.
Did you figure it out? Mine does the same thing, except it's brand new. It's like it sometimes(most of the time) doesn't feel like turning on.
Post by: cooperred on Sat, 23 December 2017, 00:11:35
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 23 December 2017, 01:14:36
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 23 December 2017, 05:36:01
any update on the 50 unshipped boards?
+1
This is almost starting to get very ridicules regarding information and promises.
Post by: Madēo on Sat, 23 December 2017, 06:09:48
An update would be appreciated. :thumb:
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 23 December 2017, 07:42:11
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 23 December 2017, 09:45:28
The delay is indeed getting out of hand. Not an exact comparison, but VicG's silent black had 96k switches to sort through and got them done in a week.
Bad comparison. He just had to count out switches.
And there were proxies, so he didn't even have to count all 96K
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sat, 23 December 2017, 11:40:06
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 23 December 2017, 14:20:23
Let's be real here j Chan has had these boards for 5 months so I don't think time has been an issue. These people that are still waiting deserve their boards soon as they have been pretty damn patient. That being said I did receive my board and everything looks great.The delay is indeed getting out of hand. Not an exact comparison, but VicG's silent black had 96k switches to sort through and got them done in a week.
Bad comparison. He just had to count out switches.
And there were proxies, so he didn't even have to count all 96K
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Post by: jjwax on Sat, 23 December 2017, 16:27:45
The group buy has been very disappointing, to say the least. Delays in GBs are expected/inevitable, but the lack of communication and missed promises are ridiculous
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 24 December 2017, 07:39:49
Nice build Brammy good thing you got it turned around in the end~!
@people; I have a QMK /PCB related question. Today when I turned on my PC I noticed two pairs of keys had switched. I have a split backspace with backslash programmed on the left key 1u and backspace is where backslash usually is. My bottom row has a 6.25u space and starts with Control, Win, Alt. Win and Alt were somehow swapped today as well as backspace and backslash. I cleared the EEPROM and make'd and reflash a fresh .hex file which somehow fixed the swapped backspace and backslash. Win and Alt were still swapped. I reconfigured the keymap.H file to swap K41 (previously Win) with K43 (previously Alt) and now the keys are all back in the right order. It makes it a bit confusing though for example I will probably forget the next time when I edit the keymap. Has anyone ever had this happen, and know how to reset or fix this? I think it might have happened during a PC reboot cycle as I also had an issue with the underglow not turning off when the PC was off.
Same thing happened to me once or twice. It appears that bootmagic is being activated somehow by accident, since my symptoms match all the "features" that bootmagic provides (https://docs.qmk.fm/feature_bootmagic.html). I have a theory that it is somehow related to the keyboard being unplugged, but haven't done any tests because it's a minor annoyance to clear and flash.
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Sun, 24 December 2017, 09:03:18
Flashing the new hex file unswapped everything somehow, but I programmed keys in a third layer to unswap keys if needed in the future. Hope it works, this is my layout (with the code in properties): http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f415c3cafd81d2191c2daa5536aa7e6d
Post by: kolashnikov on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:36:30
Thanks so much, that sounds very plausible! I wasn't able to reset it before though, I am using QMK toolbox in windows to flash. How did you manage to undo the swap with a reset and reflash? I will program these commands on a layer somewhere so I can unswap if it happens again.
Flashing the new hex file unswapped everything somehow, but I programmed keys in a third layer to unswap keys if needed in the future. Hope it works, this is my layout (with the code in properties): http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f415c3cafd81d2191c2daa5536aa7e6d
Sounds like you got it resolved, but I'll try to answer your question and elaborate a little bit more.
First, I had to reset the eeprom using the instructions here:
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/quantum/tools
That is, erase and overwrite with the "eeprom_reset" hex file provided in that folder of the repository. After that, I flashed my own JC65 keymap again and the swapped keys were back to normal. Note that I did all of this from a linux terminal so I don't know how/if these translate to Windows.
Having those keys to unswap in the future is the best solution I can think of. Since all the bootmagic keys were activated together in my case, it might be possible to program a macro that toggles all the bootmagic options with a single button. It could be easier than undoing them all individually.
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 26 December 2017, 14:04:08
Post by: pon10 on Tue, 26 December 2017, 14:30:07
Hello M65-A Supporters,
I'm glad to say that the M65-A bulk order has clear customs, and we're on our way to getting these into your happy fingers.
....... :(
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 26 December 2017, 14:45:24
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 26 December 2017, 14:48:52
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Awesome build log :)
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 26 December 2017, 15:01:08
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
Post by: Kafka on Tue, 26 December 2017, 15:03:54
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
/r/bestof
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 26 December 2017, 17:17:41
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Sweet baby jesus. At the calendar scene I thought this was just another post complaining about wait times, but I was pleasantly surprised.
How many days did it take you to make that?
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 26 December 2017, 17:18:30
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
this is the best build log ever made
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 26 December 2017, 18:53:49
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A./wipes tear
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Post by: kolashnikov on Tue, 26 December 2017, 18:58:26
Thanks so much, that sounds very plausible! I wasn't able to reset it before though, I am using QMK toolbox in windows to flash. How did you manage to undo the swap with a reset and reflash? I will program these commands on a layer somewhere so I can unswap if it happens again.
Flashing the new hex file unswapped everything somehow, but I programmed keys in a third layer to unswap keys if needed in the future. Hope it works, this is my layout (with the code in properties): http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f415c3cafd81d2191c2daa5536aa7e6d
Sounds like you got it resolved, but I'll try to answer your question and elaborate a little bit more.
First, I had to reset the eeprom using the instructions here:
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/quantum/tools
That is, erase and overwrite with the "eeprom_reset" hex file provided in that folder of the repository. After that, I flashed my own JC65 keymap again and the swapped keys were back to normal. Note that I did all of this from a linux terminal so I don't know how/if these translate to Windows.
Having those keys to unswap in the future is the best solution I can think of. Since all the bootmagic keys were activated together in my case, it might be possible to program a macro that toggles all the bootmagic options with a single button. It could be easier than undoing them all individually.
This happened to me again tonight for no apparent reason. I tried to program a macro to disable all of the swaps at once, but couldn't get it to work. I was able to make a macro that activates all the swaps, but the same method wouldn't toggle or turn them off again.
Another solution that disables all of the toggles is to use another bootmagic feature to clear the eeprom. I enabled bootmagic [put "BOOTMAGIC_ENABLE=yes" in rules.mk] and flashed my keymap again. Now, when I hold space + backspace while plugging the board in, it clears the eeprom. All the bootmagic features are disabled at once and there's no need to re-flash after that.
Here's what I had going for the macro in case anyone else wants to take a stab at it. Changing all the false flags to true allows me to reproduce the issue, at least.
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bool process_record_user(uint16_t keycode, keyrecord_t *record) {
if (record->event.pressed) {
switch(keycode) {
case UNMAGIC:
if (!eeconfig_is_enabled()) {
eeconfig_init();
}
/* keymap config */
keymap_config.raw = eeconfig_read_keymap();
keymap_config.nkro = true;
keymap_config.swap_control_capslock = false;
keymap_config.capslock_to_control = false;
keymap_config.swap_lalt_lgui = false;
keymap_config.swap_ralt_rgui = false;
keymap_config.no_gui = false;
keymap_config.swap_grave_esc = false;
keymap_config.swap_backslash_backspace = false;
keymap_config.swap_lalt_lgui = false;
keymap_config.swap_ralt_rgui = false;
eeconfig_update_keymap(keymap_config.raw);
clear_keyboard(); // clear to prevent stuck keys
break;
...
if (record->event.pressed) {
switch(keycode) {
case UNMAGIC:
if (!eeconfig_is_enabled()) {
eeconfig_init();
}
/* keymap config */
keymap_config.raw = eeconfig_read_keymap();
keymap_config.nkro = true;
keymap_config.swap_control_capslock = false;
keymap_config.capslock_to_control = false;
keymap_config.swap_lalt_lgui = false;
keymap_config.swap_ralt_rgui = false;
keymap_config.no_gui = false;
keymap_config.swap_grave_esc = false;
keymap_config.swap_backslash_backspace = false;
keymap_config.swap_lalt_lgui = false;
keymap_config.swap_ralt_rgui = false;
eeconfig_update_keymap(keymap_config.raw);
clear_keyboard(); // clear to prevent stuck keys
break;
...
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 27 December 2017, 00:30:17
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
If I were to run a group buy in the future I would make sure kustom3 got a kit in exchange for one of these glorious gifs..... just saying :thumb:
Post by: Madēo on Wed, 27 December 2017, 07:15:01
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 27 December 2017, 07:48:17
If this is not reasonable, please could you provide some explanation or reason for delay, or perhaps a reasonable/realistic timeline for what is happening with my hundreds of dollars I spent a year ago?
Post by: Aesomatica on Wed, 27 December 2017, 17:16:18
My suspicion is that there are problems with the remaining boards, and that he is waiting for replacements.
Because if it isn't that, the only other explanation I can think of is that he is too depressed to send them out.
In any case, three emails to support@keyclack.com and multiple posts I've made here have gone unanswered.
I love Rama's design, but this has been pretty poorly handled in terms of customer support and transparency.
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 27 December 2017, 17:27:11
Here (https://gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon)'s my build log for my M65-A.
My best to the people still waiting for their keyboard.
Haaha this made my get a smile instead of looking into this thread with the wrath :rolleyes: Especially frank! forgot about that episode ;D
Awesome log, beautiful board :) cant waiiiit to get it in, IF IT HAPPENS :-X
Post by: energyd on Wed, 27 December 2017, 20:48:16
The KC_ESC and KC_GRV key are somehow swapped.
Spent like two hours to figure that out! Any idea?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 27 December 2017, 21:14:54
Guys, tried to flash my M65 qmk pcb and encountered a weird behavior:
The KC_ESC and KC_GRV key are somehow swapped.
Spent like two hours to figure that out! Any idea?
Did you try switching them in the firmware?
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 28 December 2017, 00:13:25
On day 1, he packed and shipped 29 boards. This could be over in 2 days of good, solid work.
My suspicion is that there are problems with the remaining boards, and that he is waiting for replacements.
Because if it isn't that, the only other explanation I can think of is that he is too depressed to send them out.
In any case, three emails to support@keyclack.com and multiple posts I've made here have gone unanswered.
I love Rama's design, but this has been pretty poorly handled in terms of customer support and transparency.
I've got my M65-A, and it is truly a spectacular board. That being said, what is going on with missed (self imposed) promises and deadlines over and over again? The only thing we hear about is QC and some logistical stuff - but this has dragged on for a year now!
At this point, anything jchan says will be met with criticism, but it's gotta be time to cut your losses and fess up to whatever is really going on with the remaining boards. I really feel for those still waiting, especially when new GB are being launched (looking at you, topre domes) - it's really frustrating.
I really hope the markup on the extras isn't outrageous (if they ever happen), because that would be a punch in the gut if he sells them for $400+, considering how much jchan has been steering anyone with gripes to a refund.
Jchan - your board is outstanding, real endgame material - but this group buy has been miserable.
Post by: kolashnikov on Thu, 28 December 2017, 06:13:22
Guys, tried to flash my M65 qmk pcb and encountered a weird behavior:
The KC_ESC and KC_GRV key are somehow swapped.
Spent like two hours to figure that out! Any idea?
could be the same issue that was just discussed. "swap_grave_esc" is a bootmagic toggle. you might try programming "MAGIC_UNSWAP_GRAVE_ESC" to a key and see if hitting that returns ESC and GRV to normal.
Post by: energyd on Thu, 28 December 2017, 08:12:01
Guys, tried to flash my M65 qmk pcb and encountered a weird behavior:
The KC_ESC and KC_GRV key are somehow swapped.
Spent like two hours to figure that out! Any idea?
could be the same issue that was just discussed. "swap_grave_esc" is a bootmagic toggle. you might try programming "MAGIC_UNSWAP_GRAVE_ESC" to a key and see if hitting that returns ESC and GRV to normal.
That's exactly what happened! Didn't know that it's turned on and the bootmagic feature was off.
Issue resolved. Thx!
Post by: sparrows89 on Fri, 29 December 2017, 15:14:55
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 29 December 2017, 15:30:23
I just wanted to post mine after I fixed my soldering **** up. Couldn't be happier.
I call it Project Afterburner.
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 29 December 2017, 15:48:05
Hi, the M65 is my first keyboard and this is my first post! I put mine together after just recently getting it, but I think mine has a defective PCB. Certain keys are always registered together, and it's down one column of the keyboard. The ones I'm having issues with are 0 and -, p and [ , ; and ' , / and right shift. To me, it seems like it'd be a electrical issue, but even after reflowing a few diodes and resistors the issues still exists. Furthermore, I've tinkered with the firmware a bit, swapping out mappings and such, and the same issue always happens. If somebody knows a fix, or how to get in touch for a PCB and plate replacement, I'd appreciate it.That sounds like a broken trace, you probably could fix it with a jump wire, but you'd need someone more qualified then me to figure out where to put the jump
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:02:05
Hi, the M65 is my first keyboard and this is my first post! I put mine together after just recently getting it, but I think mine has a defective PCB. Certain keys are always registered together, and it's down one column of the keyboard. The ones I'm having issues with are 0 and -, p and [ , ; and ' , / and right shift. To me, it seems like it'd be a electrical issue, but even after reflowing a few diodes and resistors the issues still exists. Furthermore, I've tinkered with the firmware a bit, swapping out mappings and such, and the same issue always happens. If somebody knows a fix, or how to get in touch for a PCB and plate replacement, I'd appreciate it.
If multiple are registered together there is most likely one spot of solder touching multiple switch pads or perhaps a diode. Basically a short.
I’ve also had this issue with screw in stabilizers where the screw was touching a switch pad. Can you upload a photo or two of your pcb for us to help troubleshoot? Will need closeup shots
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:07:08
Oops I miss read your comment, this guy is totally rightHi, the M65 is my first keyboard and this is my first post! I put mine together after just recently getting it, but I think mine has a defective PCB. Certain keys are always registered together, and it's down one column of the keyboard. The ones I'm having issues with are 0 and -, p and [ , ; and ' , / and right shift. To me, it seems like it'd be a electrical issue, but even after reflowing a few diodes and resistors the issues still exists. Furthermore, I've tinkered with the firmware a bit, swapping out mappings and such, and the same issue always happens. If somebody knows a fix, or how to get in touch for a PCB and plate replacement, I'd appreciate it.
If multiple are registered together there is most likely one spot of solder touching multiple switch pads or perhaps a diode. Basically a short.
I’ve also had this issue with screw in stabilizers where the screw was touching a switch pad. Can you upload a photo or two of your pcb for us to help troubleshoot? Will need closeup shots
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Post by: sparrows89 on Fri, 29 December 2017, 17:59:20
Post by: kolashnikov on Fri, 29 December 2017, 18:26:49
Thanks for the advice, everybody. I went and checked my soldering, but it looks like nothing had made an accidental bridge. I'll post a full picture of the board tomorrow though, since the lighting is abysmal at night where I am. I also did a bit of a sanity check and looked through things with a multimeter too and I did notice that there's continuity between all the switches I'm having issues with, which hints that maybe there's a diode the wrong way or something is left open when it should be closed.
As others said, it's possible to see that behavior when screw-in stabilizers short some contact patches. If there is a screw-in stab near that row, try removing just the screw (no need to take the whole stabilizer out) and measure continuity again. I noticed that the screw from my zeal stabs was touching two contact patches on the PCB when I was building too. I preemptively put some plastic down under the screw to prevent any potential shorts.
Post by: cooperred on Fri, 29 December 2017, 18:36:22
Thanks for the advice, everybody. I went and checked my soldering, but it looks like nothing had made an accidental bridge. I'll post a full picture of the board tomorrow though, since the lighting is abysmal at night where I am. I also did a bit of a sanity check and looked through things with a multimeter too and I did notice that there's continuity between all the switches I'm having issues with, which hints that maybe there's a diode the wrong way or something is left open when it should be closed.
Mine has a similar problem. This reddit post helped me out. I'm holding out for a PCB replacement
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1zqqvk/guide_how_i_fixed_my_mechanical_keyboard_pcb/
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 30 December 2017, 20:54:54
I think I remember someone's saying that it wasn't possible to use holtites on this keyboard, but I'm just double-checking (I don't have any to test with at the moment).
Post by: Rafa_n on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:50:17
last post from jchan on this thread was more than 2 weeks ago...
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:59:40
So can we get an update on this or nah?
last post from jchan on this thread was more than 2 weeks ago...
I'm not expecting to hear anything until at least Tuesday. Have a feeling JChan took the holidays off. Hopefully he comes back rested and ready to finish this all off.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:49:24
Ditto. An update would be appreciated since jchan keeps setting deadlines for himself and missing them wildy though...So can we get an update on this or nah?
last post from jchan on this thread was more than 2 weeks ago...
I'm not expecting to hear anything until at least Tuesday. Have a feeling JChan took the holidays off. Hopefully he comes back rested and ready to finish this all off.
Post by: purrito on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:56:01
My partner now has a running joke about me getting "scammed out of my birthday gift to myself." I was born in April, so the joke is getting just a little bit tired. Jchan, if nothing else, please ship so I can prove my partner wrongDitto. An update would be appreciated since jchan keeps setting deadlines for himself and missing them wildy though...So can we get an update on this or nah?
last post from jchan on this thread was more than 2 weeks ago...
I'm not expecting to hear anything until at least Tuesday. Have a feeling JChan took the holidays off. Hopefully he comes back rested and ready to finish this all off.
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Post by: Quackles on Sun, 31 December 2017, 20:25:42
The only hope I have left is that Keyclack and Jchan are reputable in our community, so I am hoping that everything will be resolved and people get their keyboards. But the lack of updates and communication wasn't something I expected from Keyclack.
Post by: childofthehorn on Mon, 01 January 2018, 18:20:26
Pull Request which has the code for the CapsLock LED :
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/2210
Photos of my build (wih leds full on and off):
- Elvish SA PBT set
- Holtites on everything and soldered in
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ALnGWwiOapM9stzf0tkY9c-FWmqGS9UhrDJGmiDSmTRP-k0geqdjZXr_6fcNj5Ijc4SLUCNWHFW9Kuuckz8pxTEqkrRi_zhsA245CDSp53LM6gGndUlO2BJA8rh4DXCNlvO0oknvb-_LT_w2LgdO_d3B_zFFQjw18gNYpQNcPSkNoQURASLkxeSl5fckjcsmhmifVj_3VgOruZNZqVTdMfHAzqeKaRhFZmPT03Fok7BMFmlAlYAxcoQVmNwbLa-6Tsf4fT6k0vYd8QcpW7pz-jkXKEBGb81oDPzFHdVL-X0UmJRTsZS9txceN4xOiqR7E5H3byrhPG9-3q0J47x5E6YUgfLtLlg1dd24fqlyT3ydI-lSlbFakXSKcIuwCeMLbW47x5bigBcwfnBtMmW-ynbmSjAjPRtUGlS4olAlpSfvp3SU3PXGD8OiX7zfFj1LgJp3ZutVDHrRuz2kcImU3kz2kafCc-wXHSShYk13WkpfwqTGarPg4TeHSD-6YkG1csXI4GttF7J_nmYTonTm8IfMhrq_aMI26e0a4z4HoOpVlYqSQO5DIPzMGPv6HHa6IUNKxQzPkuu_xhkEtfORkBW8qh03wpS5Svc2cIrGzaHTRg5lCGNrd8ZzmEW4qE5BDrzVE0q-qmqA5PkCw5bqc_pOo9rzLPFYoQ=w1935-h1623-no)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8VwT3dQdy6KSN7oX3YuwN9OMjukaPd2rsMDop_iSSsi3esqzyzKZbCw7M4FVRj3QckEppbS0won7POQsaGAQtsL65vZHDClnQjkAOdXJ0uCkT-mxROPnYMPnCbF53_XA19ktO6RK8-qfydIqw16MqEtHnJPOo5NlrtgaM-YSqF3gxpzBdeP9bg4rUETiAio2rDI0oFEo10KglAoYv-25qi2Bs4bZ8kwSkk5nAsOSTomkZMbp90gbI5-NRsDVO-0_4tdgX4RBMxBUk2IPxWkzoxTeedM7GSmeymQCFh2OvEv_sGmBjs6K_lcDnLDoG6N8j0rvomeTqyu8Vy3wXK98oNsEcD16fganGnsf02nywAsZBo5ojjl3NNceBz_OMKuYA-XRGty8VWskKOOAcG3VBoJrWpn9O7wgSuzTeWBjNBKUQKNuZ7pGshB6G0jQj9hW9FGUy9TVDVdvTsl4K8d-pvQU4uEH3UAtFimOvXdMwqiQTGAxKrCp9CGb4xYE1Cy_nsqOxEDW4L7KA9Zfg59L-7YCqUgeOKXCUK_ElxSlmjh6azi4Wsm4ZPzmNHSOUprh2qyupprXHOPnCGO5_fjCNfB13OHqqbNVCfg5MGgHZm4dTaRlde-JP3Y-E8XphNjOy4zeWXeLSZnuBY8caBMITmonHTlbW2YSXw=w1440-h636-no)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5kY-IG-raNA8WTkJphpaW_gukHG9_54wLur21x5KFg1xv04TzT-u0Cd9UiRi0YTJuVQLb7l443rYh4TO4LYO7wo29U481uKMWhbNmejJdEHc9iiuEH9mELTA5ukJKr3BMg-od3IKElsGqAoQytYj9qXDa-FzC7Zf8zGUlN3UhSuaG2k_ztabEnvL_RzBJF7FUO-IDFVT3OVFYrEWpQ8Xazo55nBAssu05mgeg-Qh6gPVqLyB57oron-D5-AmImjHgNWyQQNleV5Dac8ffwFIgL1Pg4wUPDFLie0Iq5nbxkf2tAeg6eyp2PGVKvWdAGMDRbxHxozSzbvLRFoJhx4adfCGw30JvNl1Gawr61Uc0k55E4IgM_lK1VZQuTtMSBocjnbUC0imZhPZkrf6SS5S-NkDb0oS8EObw51W7ztlAFjkgVWip82x89XL7AzQ_6hIS7Ku6raUwFOro7hWybq3TCAwVGawboSvKoNDevQA4Rb14rQ5xMeU-enEabiZQGYh2mIw6CrLg1ob3KOENnJUsNVAGWLFdbT9XTLiWf0hdXSIhd885Hzf1uH8i4_VIlAHQ35NHOhxxUcoBGGh4bq77xyTrxeIWp0HIZo6JVCDzNyQjJ70VTESK3TBJPWNb7sPVYHlqLtfT5mrbFdYj1MsqxgPWLhy_yAjng=w2550-h1031-no)
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 02 January 2018, 07:39:18
- Holtites on everything and soldered in
I thought this board wasn't holtite-compatible. How did this go for you? Any snags to watch out for? Would be awesome to have that ability, so I'm definitely curious to hear how it went before digging into my build. Thanks!
Edit: Board looks great, btw!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 09:36:29
I thought this board wasn't holtite-compatible. How did this go for you? Any snags to watch out for? Would be awesome to have that ability, so I'm definitely curious to hear how it went before digging into my build.
I'm not the one you asked but I did the same and regret it.
First off, you can't jjust push holtites in like you normally would, you have to solder them in. After spending way too much time doing it in a bad way I found out that the easiest way is just to fill every hole with solder, use a solder sucker to suck it out and then push them in with an iron.
Be VERY VERY careful with the halfpads as they are extremely flimsy on this PCB (at least they were on mine, rip my pipe and split backspace locations).
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 02 January 2018, 09:47:42
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:24:15
Couldn’t you just put holtites on the switch legs, assemble through plate, solder to pcb, then remove switches if needed?
No, the solder would seep into the holtites and solder both the holtites to the PCB and the switchlegs to the holtites which makes desoldering a royal pain in the butt.
Post by: sixdeuces on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:30:51
Post by: childofthehorn on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:49:53
I had to do the same on the Zeal60 I finished this week as well.
Even though I bothered to solder in the LED holtites as well which was far worse to do, they do not hold the led legs as well as I would like and would suggest just doing SIP sockets and RGB compatible switches. Still, I don't find myself using the LEDs even though I painstakingly installed and cut legs for each one. It looks much nicer with the subtle back grow through the clear swicthes. These Otemu Ice tactiles are killer and I like them a bit better than zealios even just for the wobble. Bump is more, just as smooth, less than half the cost, and a softer landing making it a nice inbetween for those who like Topre.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZKOzF1V3zk7cTllj9MbszV8KBT7WDLpL-NqPbORp_YQZBXlgeKHvDBSN269JIp1BStr5E3X1_AxVxlU5nTZyQwhunKangDZmTdmBsq2KZipyL4qVGYEYij_fMgsAi16bRRHY14dM6A999NPK6Fy4Jc9-QauGVPB9_NeP7Vcc92iBnqrWZ9pLoUvYwY55QpiuVoygwdG-BeM3BDEZiSPTroHpm2A_EvDbItX7kGowOxb9ljO_QvOkqIxOPm_zqbBdPjdkKTaanSU1QE-9wQ380Di4_pIpBmp-hDIfwVGgV8TAGakSbrc_g4BSrGrPHN2nYG8s3eRtmI8iZpcNUWLz1sCkfctPks1PrzSBI-cPORedY6b2x4kEDHGT94y5b7tsHvzSLnKJ_Almw491W4-BZabD5nAHpAIbW-1w00vqeUCeNB83wdEfpl-kKm8Z7VoACEgolp_0AB7rLVTwzAKA6TmqEdyxWMxpCeb9YK7E0ueJ4di8SIn9dd8HLTYJdikWYZb5CjF88Gj9QEOCSuCKvjztV6EzHAT6MsAPkRWYhy3EdzcxSVvTs4KmPxg4OuIkKhPyGoWwiydcneWS2jv7Y65TUvuKosTn2YfwiyEQoBIcP6HJ6cP_73MR4PMsJFkdEAFV3cj-CwVBYLB9lV-KmbEzvafXH05J7A=w500-h281-no)
Post by: CamRank1 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 17:07:01
I paid for this on January 13th, 2017. It's been almost a year lol
Post by: breitling on Tue, 02 January 2018, 18:23:04
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 03:23:44
Be VERY VERY careful with the halfpads as they are extremely flimsy on this PCB (at least they were on mine, rip my pipe and split backspace locations).
Does that explain why I ripped out a pad (https://i.imgur.com/7uiy1Gf.jpg) when I had to desolder a switch?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 08:02:22
Be VERY VERY careful with the halfpads as they are extremely flimsy on this PCB (at least they were on mine, rip my pipe and split backspace locations).
Does that explain why I ripped out a pad (https://i.imgur.com/7uiy1Gf.jpg) when I had to desolder a switch?
It's possible that the normal pads also are a bit more fragile than usual. It wasn't my first time putting holtites in a PCB with halfpads either and it didn't require a lot of effort to get ripped out at all.
Post by: childofthehorn on Wed, 03 January 2018, 17:07:22
Post by: Feivis on Wed, 03 January 2018, 19:34:28
Still waiting for an update on the remaining boards that have yet to be shipped.
I paid for this on January 13th, 2017. It's been almost a year lol
Me2...(January 13th, 2017)
Post by: pon10 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 12:49:54
53 / 448 are left.
Please ship the remaining boards :thumb: or give us realistic information whats the plan now with the remaining boards
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:18:37
At this point, coming up to a year since payment, those of us still waiting on this board deserve to know the whole truth.
Post by: Sarillexis on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:24:34
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:51:24
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Thu, 04 January 2018, 21:05:30
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 04 January 2018, 21:09:53
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 21:14:49
Happy new year, and I'm very sorry I've been away.
During winter, I was away in the mountains for a little while without signal, as per a family trip.
Over the break, a bunch of units came back from the manufacturer that were to replace issues that I found earlier (anodization issue update thing).
I'm just about done with inspecting all the new units, and found a few issues with a few of them already which is unfortunate.
--
Anyways, I've packed a bunch of units today and they'll be going out tomorrow.
We're almost there, and thanks for your patience.
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Lastly, to note, I don't think I'm up for hosting another "group buy" for a while. I think it's just taken too much out of me.
Cheers and again, happy new years and again, thanks for your patience.
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If anyone is interested, this is one of things I have to deal with at the moment, which really urks me.
Top piece (new replacements)
Bottom piece (old Hydro blue).
(https://i.imgur.com/n7Zz9qw.png)
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 04 January 2018, 22:00:34
Post by: fancymans on Thu, 04 January 2018, 22:26:45
Post by: breitling on Thu, 04 January 2018, 23:13:07
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 04 January 2018, 23:21:14
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Post by: rioc on Fri, 05 January 2018, 00:48:54
how long for you Europe guys to receive it? Hoping it'll arrive in time for me to have it ready for the next CH meetup
Post by: wongie on Fri, 05 January 2018, 03:31:20
how long for you Europe guys to receive it? Hoping it'll arrive in time for me to have it ready for the next CH meetup
UK here and I received mine back in mid December. JChan isn't sending them out in any specific order, I believe he was and presumably still is just sending them out as he takes em off the crates.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 05 January 2018, 03:39:04
how long for you Europe guys to receive it? Hoping it'll arrive in time for me to have it ready for the next CH meetup
UK here and I received mine back in mid December. JChan isn't sending them out in any specific order, I believe he was and presumably still is just sending them out as he takes em off the crates.
ah, no, I know that, I meant how long did it take you from receiving your tracking info until it arrived? (actual shipping time, not overall waiting time) ;)
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 05 January 2018, 03:43:50
how long for you Europe guys to receive it? Hoping it'll arrive in time for me to have it ready for the next CH meetup
UK here and I received mine back in mid December. JChan isn't sending them out in any specific order, I believe he was and presumably still is just sending them out as he takes em off the crates.
ah, no, I know that, I meant how long did it take you from receiving your tracking info until it arrived? (actual shipping time, not overall waiting time) ;)
Mine shipped to Belgium and took about two weeks I think? It spent about a week at customs too. Shipping went fairly fast.
Post by: msilvv on Fri, 05 January 2018, 03:53:11
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Post by: rioc on Fri, 05 January 2018, 03:56:38
how long for you Europe guys to receive it? Hoping it'll arrive in time for me to have it ready for the next CH meetup
UK here and I received mine back in mid December. JChan isn't sending them out in any specific order, I believe he was and presumably still is just sending them out as he takes em off the crates.
ah, no, I know that, I meant how long did it take you from receiving your tracking info until it arrived? (actual shipping time, not overall waiting time) ;)
Mine shipped to Belgium and took about two weeks I think? It spent about a week at customs too. Shipping went fairly fast.
that's great :)
I wonder if I'll see any other M65s at the CH meetup :)
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 08 January 2018, 00:31:56
Post by: Aesomatica on Tue, 09 January 2018, 18:05:33
Why did you tell us that none of the original units needed replacement when they did, in fact, need replacements?
Are you now saying that the boards that were supposed to provide replacements are not good, and in fact you won't be able to complete this groupbuy anytime soon?
Please just like... ship one board a day... anything.
There are less than 53 boards left. You should know exactly who the recipients of those boards are. Please email those people with the details of the product they purchased from you.
I'll type it out for you:
Hi NAME!
Your M65, order number XXX is here with me. I have looked through the box and ensured that the anodization job looks good and all the parts are there. I haven't ordered a pickup from the post office yet because I have not repackaged your board. Rest assured, I will ship it out by DD MMM. Please send an email to supportatkeyclackdotcom if you don't see a shipment notice by that date. Here is a picture of the board, getting ready to package it.
Sincerely, JChan
OR
Hi NAME!
Your M65, order number XXX is here with me. Unfortunately, upon inspection, it looks like there are problems with the anodization and I will need to send it back to the anodization factory in China. This will take approximately XX days and I will send you an update once they let me know the board has arrived and when they send it back to me. If you haven't heard from me by DD MMM, I understand that you have put at least 300 dollars toward this keyboard and you have my assurance that I am managing this to the best of my ability. Here is a picture of the board, just so you know I'm not making things up.
Sincerely, JChan
Just make it manageable for yourself and be consistent. I'm almost definitely sure that someone in that area could come provide free labor to help you out.
Post by: Seitenryu on Tue, 09 January 2018, 23:53:22
Just so I ask some questions I think we all want answers to:I'm wondering about that myself, since I picked gold, which seems to be a rather uncommon choice. If the ano is bad, I'd love to know, so I can stop wringing my hands and patiently wait for the fix. Maybe even stick something on my calendar months out. The delay has gone past frustrating, to just plain mystifying. The only reasonable explanation seems be many more finish issues than anticipated, possibly repeat issues with certain colors. I just can't think PCBs could be to blame, since those are produced in bulk, with likely many extras.
Why did you tell us that none of the original units needed replacement when they did, in fact, need replacements?.....
.....provide free labor to help you out.
I unpack, estimate, repair, and ship products on a regular basis, and the shipping isn't hard. I'm at a loss for why nobody is allowed to help. Maybe it's a convenient kick the can excuse, we've all been there. Throw some beers around and make it happen, right?
I feel like I'm waiting out of stubbornness now. Well, that and the fact that the Camp Pad GB had gold to match. Sort of stuck now.
Jchan, these boards are hot, but it feels like an awkward silence around here sometimes. Can you give us the whole scoop? You say there are issues, then slightly resolve them, then go incommunicado for weeks. I'm not mad, just very curious and slightly confused. Are you okay? Is there more going on than you can handle or something?
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 10 January 2018, 00:25:58
Post by: Quackles on Wed, 10 January 2018, 02:25:00
Post by: MojoBandit on Wed, 10 January 2018, 07:09:54
well **** on a stick. I just got updated shipping info and it went to my old address, even though I sent 2 emails to jchan and he said he got my change of address. Word
Wait, did you get your shipping info in the mail that jchan sent you ? Mine just had the url to the USPS tracking site and I don't think there is a way to see the shipping address on the USPS page. I am kind of worried now because I too had to change my shipping address. :(
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 10 January 2018, 07:23:09
well **** on a stick. I just got updated shipping info and it went to my old address, even though I sent 2 emails to jchan and he said he got my change of address. Word
Wait, did you get your shipping info in the mail that jchan sent you ? Mine just had the url to the USPS tracking site and I don't think there is a way to see the shipping address on the USPS page. I am kind of worried now because I too had to change my shipping address. :(
Once it finally started moving it showed in transit “on its way to” my old address. Hopefully it will get forwarded. Most of my mail does, but the last keyboard that went there got lost in the mail. /fingerscrossed
Post by: MojoBandit on Wed, 10 January 2018, 10:32:55
well **** on a stick. I just got updated shipping info and it went to my old address, even though I sent 2 emails to jchan and he said he got my change of address. Word
Wait, did you get your shipping info in the mail that jchan sent you ? Mine just had the url to the USPS tracking site and I don't think there is a way to see the shipping address on the USPS page. I am kind of worried now because I too had to change my shipping address. :(
Once it finally started moving it showed in transit “on its way to” my old address. Hopefully it will get forwarded. Most of my mail does, but the last keyboard that went there got lost in the mail. /fingerscrossed
Well I hope yours get forwarded. I'll keep an eye on the tracking page then.
Post by: nerium on Wed, 10 January 2018, 10:36:46
Please give us an update.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 10 January 2018, 11:48:15
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Wed, 10 January 2018, 15:09:18
I'm sad that the above poster's first post had to be that one, but I totally agree. No email reply, and every 'update' is basically just 'soon' with another excuse for delay.
Yeah, it's interesting to see how something like this is a big enough issue to people that it brings out the voice in people.
I'm still waiting on any info at all about my order. I'm trying to keep my chin up about it and admire the posts of other M65-A owners. I'm going to have a hard time making time to build it though since I didn't expect it to be this long. I know I'd definitely be happier getting this board than getting a refund, but this whole thing has made me a sort of jaded. I know that finally getting this delivered won't have the same brilliance and awe as I first hoped for, but I'm determined to see this through until the end.
Post by: Troif on Wed, 10 January 2018, 16:54:57
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Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 10 January 2018, 16:59:25
Ok... It has been too much now. Please inform me how to obtain a refund. Thanks.
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If the buy runners are allowing users to swap their buys I will gladly take your spot if you don't want your board. What did you order?
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:43:46
Ok... It has been too much now. Please inform me how to obtain a refund. Thanks.
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Post by: Malenky on Wed, 10 January 2018, 18:16:24
Ok... It has been too much now. Please inform me how to obtain a refund. Thanks.
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Good luck with that.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 10 January 2018, 21:24:32
Ok... It has been too much now. Please inform me how to obtain a refund. Thanks.
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Good luck with that.
He's done it before. Not sure if it's the situation now, but I didn't see anyone that didn't get their refund in a semi-prompt manner.
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 10 January 2018, 22:38:07
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 11 January 2018, 00:06:03
What't the 3M part number for the rubber feet?I think I remember Jchan saying that they’re custom. It was one of the selling points when he was hyping up the GB.
Edit: I’d look for a quote but there are a lot of pages in this thread.
Post by: pon10 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 04:55:38
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 11 January 2018, 14:56:01
Yeah, it's interesting to see how something like this is a big enough issue to people that it brings out the voice in people.
I'm still waiting on any info at all about my order. I'm trying to keep my chin up about it and admire the posts of other M65-A owners. I'm going to have a hard time making time to build it though since I didn't expect it to be this long. I know I'd definitely be happier getting this board than getting a refund, but this whole thing has made me a sort of jaded. I know that finally getting this delivered won't have the same brilliance and awe as I first hoped for, but I'm determined to see this through until the end.
I know exactly what you mean. I got mine a few weeks ago and, man, was it bitter-sweet.
I've never waited with so much anticipation for a board before and was really hyped when jchan initially started shipping in the summer and I got everything ready for the build immediately. Assembled and lubed my frankenswitches, clipped and lubed my stabs, got my sip sockets ready, trimmed my LEDs, and got my hex ready to flash. I've been ready to solder for months now.
But when I got my board it was less excitement and more a feeling of relief, "Phew, at least I got what I paid for." I inspected the contents of the box and found two issues (1. machining line going across the back of the nylon bottom 2. USB port housing on PCB is bent) but I'm going to take care of these issues myself because it still seems like jchan is being flakey with communication/updates. Honestly, little disappointing since by my count (going off jchan's updates) my board should've gone through 3rounds of QC so I assumed I'd be getting something flawless.
After I inspected everything I put everything back in the box and kinda just didn't want to look at it anymore so it's sitting in the back of my closet right now.
What't the 3M part number for the rubber feet?I think I remember Jchan saying that they’re custom. It was one of the selling points when he was hyping up the GB.
Edit: I’d look for a quote but there are a lot of pages in this thread.
I recall the same. Also recall him giving a presentation at a meet somewhere and talking about how he had a massive email chain just about rubber feet.
Man, this is another thing I am disappointed by. Honestly, at some point jchan noticed that he didn't account for the extra bases but failed to inform any of us (at least those that bought an extra base) and just started shipping units. Then he failed to answer inquiries about the missing set of feet until asked about it several times. And when he finally addressed it the conclusion was we had to buy the extra feet because he forgot to account for the extra bases. I'd be less bothered if these weren't custom and I didn't have to wait for jchan to stock these and charge a premium for custom molded feet.
uhh, jchan, can I get a set of feet instead of my "free gift" whenever that happens?
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:12:41
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:34:37
Anyone know of a padded sleeve the m65 fits in for travel?
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"Specialee made" makes some really dope ones. There's custom options too if you wanna get creative~
Post by: msilvv on Thu, 11 January 2018, 23:53:15
To echo what the posters above have said, I'm done being disappointed or upset about the delays. I just want clarity about the situation and a realistic, HONEST timeline I can follow. It's now been 6 months past the original shipping estimates and almost a year (in two days) since I paid. I still have no doubt about receiving my board eventually, but this is really getting out of hand.
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Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 12 January 2018, 00:39:57
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 12 January 2018, 01:00:42
Curious at this point as to what colors people who haven't received their boards yet orderedWaiting on a space gray here.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 12 January 2018, 06:17:35
my space gray is on it's way since wednesdayCurious at this point as to what colors people who haven't received their boards yet orderedWaiting on a space gray here.
Post by: adamcobabe on Fri, 12 January 2018, 06:36:31
Post by: Rafa_n on Fri, 12 January 2018, 06:45:12
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Fri, 12 January 2018, 07:28:04
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 12 January 2018, 14:31:47
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 12 January 2018, 21:21:06
How come topre domes get this kind of detailed update, but m65's get diddly? Posted 30 minutes ago at the time of my posting
Post by: Madēo on Sat, 13 January 2018, 05:33:47
The fact that some of us are still waiting today for the board to arrive is absolute bull****.
We almost never hear from Jchan.
No update, explanation, nothing.
And now he's active on other threads, busy with other group buys?
Wouldn't it make more sense to wrap this one up first?
Or at least give us a ****ing explanation as to why not?
Ffs Jchan, you're holding a business here, you have responsibilities...
Please give us something, and realistic - not some fake hope, white lie.
[Excuse the cursing]
Post by: Rafa_n on Sat, 13 January 2018, 07:36:43
Post by: petrock on Sat, 13 January 2018, 10:10:46
8/2 - I receive tracking info
8/29 - I send JChan an email asking him why my tracking info never changed from "label created"
8/29 - JChan sends me an email saying that the package has been picked up by FedEx and he would look into it.
8/31 - I ask for an update.
9/8 - I ask for an update.
9/9 - JChan says that there is no news for me.
9/27 - I ask for an update.
10/7 - I ask for an update. I also ask if I should contact FedEx.
10/13 - I ask for an update. I also ask if I should make a claim with Fedex.
10/18 - JChan says that FedEx is giving them the run around. He says that they will send me a unit out of the extras.
11/4 - I email JChan telling him that at this point I be happy with any color other than Gold if it makes it any easier.
I've gotten no word from JChan about the status of the order. I haven't sent him anything else since because other than asking for a refund (which I'm not keen on doing) what else can I do? Am I even going to get a board? Can I even get a refund, he shipped me the board? Are there going to be extras? I just want a view of what else needs to be done to get the rest of a keyboards out.
What I really want is a break down of what is left. Something like;
10x have anodizing issues
3x have PCB issues
1x was lost in the mail
etc.
At least with this we could understand why there is a delay at this point. I'm going to wait it out but I am not what anyone would call happy about the situation.
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 13 January 2018, 20:29:28
How come topre domes get this kind of detailed update, but m65's get diddly? Posted 30 minutes ago at the time of my posting
He is also still replying to people on that Instagram post, yet he can't do the same here.
Post by: Aqoush on Sat, 13 January 2018, 21:19:01
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Sun, 14 January 2018, 07:33:45
I need some help -- I messed up the pads on my U key, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to hot-wire it up?
If you can post some detailed pics of what you did I'm sure someone in here can help!
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 14 January 2018, 08:14:23
Hi everyone,
Happy new year, and I'm very sorry I've been away.
During winter, I was away in the mountains for a little while without signal, as per a family trip.
Over the break, a bunch of units came back from the manufacturer that were to replace issues that I found earlier (anodization issue update thing).
I'm just about done with inspecting all the new units, and found a few issues with a few of them already which is unfortunate.
--
Anyways, I've packed a bunch of units today and they'll be going out tomorrow.
We're almost there, and thanks for your patience.
--
Lastly, to note, I don't think I'm up for hosting another "group buy" for a while. I think it's just taken too much out of me.
Cheers and again, happy new years and again, thanks for your patience.
--
If anyone is interested, this is one of things I have to deal with at the moment, which really urks me.
Top piece (new replacements)
Bottom piece (old Hydro blue).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/n7Zz9qw.png)
Its mid January (2018) now? which really urks me. :thumb:
Post by: purrito on Sun, 14 January 2018, 15:50:27
This is the last purchase from Keyclack for me, which is a real shame because I supported jchan back in the "selling cables through mechmarket" days. Sadly, I just can't recommend his business anymore.
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Post by: Aqoush on Sun, 14 January 2018, 20:31:37
I need some help -- I messed up the pads on my U key, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to hot-wire it up?
If you can post some detailed pics of what you did I'm sure someone in here can help!
Not really too much to show, problem is all on the "U" key: https://i.imgur.com/bjPmwQM.jpg
I'm guessing I need to reconnect the column and row, not too sure which pins to connect though.
Post by: Aqoush on Mon, 15 January 2018, 14:06:13
I need some help -- I messed up the pads on my U key, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to hot-wire it up?
If you can post some detailed pics of what you did I'm sure someone in here can help!
Not really too much to show, problem is all on the "U" key: https://i.imgur.com/bjPmwQM.jpg
I'm guessing I need to reconnect the column and row, not too sure which pins to connect though.
Figured it out -- with some guesswork. Needed to manually make 3 connections.
For anyone who may run into this problem in the future: https://i.imgur.com/GdSYu4L.jpg.
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 15 January 2018, 15:52:48
I need some help -- I messed up the pads on my U key, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to hot-wire it up?
If you can post some detailed pics of what you did I'm sure someone in here can help!
Not really too much to show, problem is all on the "U" key: https://i.imgur.com/bjPmwQM.jpg
I'm guessing I need to reconnect the column and row, not too sure which pins to connect though.
Figured it out -- with some guesswork. Needed to manually make 3 connections.
For anyone who may run into this problem in the future: https://i.imgur.com/GdSYu4L.jpg.
Please don't take this as me bashing you, because it's not my intent, but you need to invest in better soldering gear and solder. Get some Kester 44 and a nice temp controlled iron like a Hakko. You heat damaged a number of vias including the one you had to jumper.
With some smart shopping you can get gear good enough to avoid this kind of damage in the future and spend less than $100 on it. For the price of some of these kits, it's cheap insurance.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:00:54
Get some Kester 44
Would you mind linking this solder?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:34:10
Get some Kester 44
Would you mind linking this solder?
https://www.amazon.com/Kester-24-6337-0010-Rosin-Solder-SPOOL/dp/B00068IJWC
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:43:51
Get some Kester 44
Would you mind linking this solder?
https://www.amazon.com/Kester-24-6337-0010-Rosin-Solder-SPOOL/dp/B00068IJWC
Thank you, I had found this but was thrown by the name starting 'Kester 24'. I have not been terribly satisfied with the solder I have been using so it's nice to have a recommendation
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 16 January 2018, 06:13:22
Still probably about 45/448 left to ship.
I still remember JChan saying that we would get the keyboards in June.
Post by: adamcobabe on Tue, 16 January 2018, 06:30:05
Post by: Feivis on Tue, 16 January 2018, 07:51:52
I am order 310.Your tracking info still remain unchanged until now?
8/2 - I receive tracking info
8/29 - I send JChan an email asking him why my tracking info never changed from "label created"
8/29 - JChan sends me an email saying that the package has been picked up by FedEx and he would look into it.
8/31 - I ask for an update.
9/8 - I ask for an update.
9/9 - JChan says that there is no news for me.
9/27 - I ask for an update.
10/7 - I ask for an update. I also ask if I should contact FedEx.
10/13 - I ask for an update. I also ask if I should make a claim with Fedex.
10/18 - JChan says that FedEx is giving them the run around. He says that they will send me a unit out of the extras.
11/4 - I email JChan telling him that at this point I be happy with any color other than Gold if it makes it any easier.
I've gotten no word from JChan about the status of the order. I haven't sent him anything else since because other than asking for a refund (which I'm not keen on doing) what else can I do? Am I even going to get a board? Can I even get a refund, he shipped me the board? Are there going to be extras? I just want a view of what else needs to be done to get the rest of a keyboards out.
What I really want is a break down of what is left. Something like;
10x have anodizing issues
3x have PCB issues
1x was lost in the mail
etc.
At least with this we could understand why there is a delay at this point. I'm going to wait it out but I am not what anyone would call happy about the situation.
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Post by: jjwax on Tue, 16 January 2018, 11:52:38
Any ideas?
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Post by: imprevade on Tue, 16 January 2018, 12:05:14
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I had some problems with my leds on the qmk version. It turned out that adding a little bit of solder to the contacts fixed the issue. If you're going to try this, I'd start with the ones next to the one that is working.
Hope this helps!
Post by: breitling on Tue, 16 January 2018, 22:31:56
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 16 January 2018, 22:59:36
Got mine today! Looks good, except got dinged $50 by customs :(
That's no fun. I got mine as well. Space gray with nylon base. It's a good kit. Just have to figure out how to reduce the static in my room better b/c it's so bad at the moment that I can't use any metal cases :(
I've been running a humidifier for 5 hours, wearing all cotton, still getting shocked occasionally on all of my metal cases. Stupid atoms and their charges.
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 17 January 2018, 02:11:25
Got mine today! Looks good, except got dinged $50 by customs :(98 euros here :p
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:09:17
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:17:02
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:18:22
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:55:47
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:29:58
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
No, but i did get my hands on another PCB with working LEDs that i'm working on switching over to.
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:34:57
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
No, but i did get my hands on another PCB with working LEDs that i'm working on switching over to.
which pcb?
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:36:28
Another m65 oneI've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
No, but i did get my hands on another PCB with working LEDs that i'm working on switching over to.
which pcb?
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Post by: jjwax on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:47:25
Another m65 oneI've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
No, but i did get my hands on another PCB with working LEDs that i'm working on switching over to.
which pcb?
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Oh shoot. From jchan? Or somewhere else?
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:47:56
Second hand from someone who had an extra.Another m65 oneI've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
I shocked mine (static) and it fried the LEDs, i would guess something like that happened to you as well. Or could just need a bit more solder... i dunno.
hmm I wonder if that happened - were you handling the pcb directly when you shocked it? or did it carry from the body?
No, it happened at work after touching the case. Rest of the PCB works just fine, just not the SMDs.
Well that sucks! Did you replace the smds?
No, but i did get my hands on another PCB with working LEDs that i'm working on switching over to.
which pcb?
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Oh shoot. From jchan? Or somewhere else?
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Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 17 January 2018, 14:27:27
Post by: MojoBandit on Wed, 17 January 2018, 16:26:15
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 17 January 2018, 23:40:55
(Make sure to fix the stock firmware, though. They put Enter on the wrong column)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 18 January 2018, 11:25:03
Reminder: all the direct person-to-person sales are to be done in the Classifieds section, accompanied with appropriate details such as listed prices, photographs of the goods, etc.
Also if you got an extra you didn't pay for, it far more considerate to check with the GB organizer before immediately trying to make even more money on something you did not pay for. It could mean that someone else will now be an item short.
Post by: nerium on Thu, 18 January 2018, 11:36:22
Post by: Madēo on Thu, 18 January 2018, 12:21:02
Has anyone heard back from jchan recently? It's now been over a week since I asked for an update.
Nope... the silent treatment continues.................................
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 18 January 2018, 13:15:26
Has anyone heard back from jchan recently? It's now been over a week since I asked for an update.
Just got an email blast from him today about his BKE Domes, so he's definitely around. Seems like he's ignoring this post.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 18 January 2018, 16:50:38
Has anyone heard back from jchan recently? It's now been over a week since I asked for an update.
Just got an email blast from him today about his BKE Domes, so he's definitely around. Seems like he's ignoring this post.
Between the constant attention he gives to other options and the long stretches of silence here, every day just makes me believe more and more that any news we finally get will be bad news.
Post by: Aesomatica on Thu, 18 January 2018, 19:30:32
They're still going out.
Post by: Quackles on Thu, 18 January 2018, 19:37:36
Post by: Feivis on Thu, 18 January 2018, 19:57:26
FYI another round just got tracking.
They're still going out.
I got tracking info on 5 Jan. and it still shows "PRE-SHIPMENT INFO SENT TO USPS, USPS AWAITING ITEM" today. That means USPS still not yet collect the item?
Post by: Aesomatica on Thu, 18 January 2018, 20:02:00
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 18 January 2018, 20:29:49
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 18 January 2018, 21:04:30
FYI another round just got tracking.
They're still going out.
Oh nice! Glad to see there's at least some kind of activity! We're almost done, so close to closing this GB...
Post by: purrito on Thu, 18 January 2018, 23:07:59
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Post by: Sarillexis on Fri, 19 January 2018, 08:25:33
Post by: blackginger on Fri, 19 January 2018, 09:29:14
Hey Canucks, how long did your M65 sit in customs? I just passed the 7-day mark. USPS shows it hitting customs on the 12th, but Canada Post has nothing.
Mine was stuck in customs for 8 business days, ~10 days total. Received it 3 days after it cleared customs. I am located in the GTA
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 19 January 2018, 09:34:47
Hey Canucks, how long did your M65 sit in customs? I just passed the 7-day mark. USPS shows it hitting customs on the 12th, but Canada Post has nothing.
Mine took almost 2 full weeks.
Post by: Sarillexis on Fri, 19 January 2018, 10:35:08
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 19 January 2018, 13:05:52
Holy ****, nevermind, it literally arrived half an hour ago. And, didn't get charged a penny by customs. ;D
Christ, you got lucky, I got charged $80 in customs.
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 19 January 2018, 16:59:00
Holy ****, nevermind, it literally arrived half an hour ago. And, didn't get charged a penny by customs. ;D
Christ, you got lucky, I got charged $80 in customs.
Does the customs charge just depend on who's working that day or something?! :confused:
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 19 January 2018, 23:08:32
Holy ****, nevermind, it literally arrived half an hour ago. And, didn't get charged a penny by customs. ;D
Christ, you got lucky, I got charged $80 in customs.
Does the customs charge just depend on who's working that day or something?! :confused:
Basically, yes. I order from Asos.com and half of my orders come in with no customs, the other half I have a bill with customs totalling 60-70% of the total value of the package. Its infuriating.
Post by: ghostdeini on Sat, 20 January 2018, 11:47:02
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
Go into bootmapper client, and then to the Options page where you can configure the LEDs. Make sure you have the # of LEDs correctly set to 16... if that doesn't work, then I'd assume it's a hardware problem
Post by: jjwax on Sat, 20 January 2018, 12:18:39
I've been using my M65-A for about a month now, and today, it seems something went wonky with the pcb underglow. I've only got one green led on, and am unable to update the colors/flow via bootmapper client. The keyboard is still functional/programmable via bootmapper, just the underglow settings seem shot
Any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
Go into bootmapper client, and then to the Options page where you can configure the LEDs. Make sure you have the # of LEDs correctly set to 16... if that doesn't work, then I'd assume it's a hardware problem
It's set correctly
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Sat, 20 January 2018, 19:56:51
Post by: Aesomatica on Sat, 20 January 2018, 20:00:14
Post by: Valaris on Sun, 21 January 2018, 07:07:58
Post by: rioc on Mon, 22 January 2018, 03:26:37
Got mine today! Looks good, except got dinged $50 by customs :(98 euros here :p
~47$ for swiss custom fees. Got it on Saturday, gonna build it this week. Using Silent black for sure, but don't know if split space or no...
Post by: nerium on Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:20:12
EDIT: Recieved my tracking! Thanks to all who expressed interest in buying my spot but I will be keeping my order after all.
Post by: naut on Mon, 22 January 2018, 17:59:27
Post by: purrito on Mon, 22 January 2018, 21:44:37
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:57:40
I just got mine...and no PCB. The nightmare doesn't end.
Maybe MojoBandit got yours.... :blank:
Post by: msilvv on Tue, 23 January 2018, 19:03:16
My post-finals present to myself last year is gonna end up arrive post-finals this year!! This is it!
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Post by: purrito on Tue, 23 January 2018, 21:27:22
I just got mine...and no PCB. The nightmare doesn't end.
Maybe MojoBandit got yours.... :blank:
Probably :rolleyes:
To be fair, jchan has been very responsive and a new PCB is already on it's way. Hopefully that's the last of my drama and I can finally enjoy this beautiful board!
Post by: Troif on Wed, 24 January 2018, 09:23:49
For you to know it was grey and brass plate, polycarbonate and also silver bottom.
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Post by: Madēo on Wed, 24 January 2018, 15:20:53
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:00:48
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:31:07
lol responsiveI just got mine...and no PCB. The nightmare doesn't end.
Maybe MojoBandit got yours.... :blank:
Probably :rolleyes:
To be fair, jchan has been very responsive and a new PCB is already on it's way. Hopefully that's the last of my drama and I can finally enjoy this beautiful board!
Post by: Madēo on Thu, 25 January 2018, 11:47:22
lol responsiveI just got mine...and no PCB. The nightmare doesn't end.
Maybe MojoBandit got yours.... :blank:
Probably :rolleyes:
To be fair, jchan has been very responsive and a new PCB is already on it's way. Hopefully that's the last of my drama and I can finally enjoy this beautiful board!
If only jchan could deliver m65s like you deliver jokes, we'd all be satisfied.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 25 January 2018, 12:19:38
Well it looks like I've got some clarification on these delays.
Quote
Hi,
If you're getting this email, you ordered either a Blue or Silver M65.
Unfortunately, after 3 attempts to trying to get these properly finished, I'm unable to provide the proper color.
A few units are coming in today, and if the units are good, your M65 will be dispatched.
In the case that it is not good, the only alternatives I have are:
Change color to Space Gray or Matte Black, or Rose Gold / Champagne
Refund your order in full.
Let me know which you'd prefer in the likelihood that your M65 color cannot be provided.
After waiting over a year to build an entirely Hydro based build with cables and keyset and switches, this was the kind of bad news I was dreading. I feel like I've had the rug pulled out from under me and even though I have the choice of an alternative color or refund, it's really disheartening to see that all my anticipation and hype might ultimately be for something I don't want or planned to have. I'm really disappointed now and just straight bummed out about it...
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 25 January 2018, 12:37:33
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Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 25 January 2018, 13:27:11
Now I'm just confused, I received my board two weeks ago and it's silver and has no anodizing problems and I'm almost positive I've seen hydro boards on here. I guess that the anodizing on those two colors is much more inconsistent and some of us got lucky?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdc36fb9bf54660fcbaae1b00c8dfff6.jpg)
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I've seen both as well so I'm guessing it's exactly that - some were good, some were bad. He said quality issues were one of two things - CNC or anodization issues. It's just terrible luck that not only were some of them bad, but that enough of them were bad that we're where we are now with this GB.
I'm really hoping that whatever comes in today is good enough. Maybe I can have just a bit of good fortune here, if anywhere!
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 25 January 2018, 16:34:27
Now I'm just confused, I received my board two weeks ago and it's silver and has no anodizing problems and I'm almost positive I've seen hydro boards on here. I guess that the anodizing on those two colors is much more inconsistent and some of us got lucky?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdc36fb9bf54660fcbaae1b00c8dfff6.jpg)
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I really like the look of your setup, btw. Nice choice of accent colors/locations
Question about the right column. Is that actually delete or is it Home? Trying to find a logical layout for that side. I'd like (from top to bottom) Home - End -PgUp - PgDown but my hydro set doesn't have that compatibility :(
Post by: kolashnikov on Thu, 25 January 2018, 16:52:04
Well it looks like I've got some clarification on these delays.
...
After waiting over a year to build an entirely Hydro based build with cables and keyset and switches, this was the kind of bad news I was dreading. I feel like I've had the rug pulled out from under me and even though I have the choice of an alternative color or refund, it's really disheartening to see that all my anticipation and hype might ultimately be for something I don't want or planned to have. I'm really disappointed now and just straight bummed out about it...
Now that's a real update, albeit hella late. Real bummer about your Hydro build tho. I wonder why it's so hard to get the proper color. I'd expect an anodizing facility would have the equipment and skill to reproduce a color over multiple batches, or else what's the point of getting color samples?
Post by: therealmckellar on Thu, 25 January 2018, 16:58:39
I got fed up of waiting and decided to cancel the order, and jchan cancelled it and refunded 100% my Paypal. Great response.I don't understand why you guys did this.myself and others have said 56937 times that we would give you the money to take your place and all youd need to do is submit an address change. What's up with no one willing to help others out?
For you to know it was grey and brass plate, polycarbonate and also silver bottom.
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Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 January 2018, 17:22:01
I got fed up of waiting and decided to cancel the order, and jchan cancelled it and refunded 100% my Paypal. Great response.I don't understand why you guys did this.myself and others have said 56937 times that we would give you the money to take your place and all youd need to do is submit an address change. What's up with no one willing to help others out?
For you to know it was grey and brass plate, polycarbonate and also silver bottom.
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Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
becuase that's scummy and sketchy, and jchan has 80+ extras
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 25 January 2018, 17:40:40
Just a quick update:
Units remaining are
- Space Grey
- Hydro Blue
- Silver
Everyone other color has already gone.
- Hydro blue affected (4)
- Silver Affected (3)
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I'm relooking at all the extras (in A & B stock), seeing what is accepted.
Remaining orders are finishing end of the month.
Remaining orders at : 13
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If you've got an email, please send a reply so I can process your decision.
cheers! Please email if you're one of the 7 affected by the QC.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 25 January 2018, 18:52:22
Well it looks like I've got some clarification on these delays.
...
After waiting over a year to build an entirely Hydro based build with cables and keyset and switches, this was the kind of bad news I was dreading. I feel like I've had the rug pulled out from under me and even though I have the choice of an alternative color or refund, it's really disheartening to see that all my anticipation and hype might ultimately be for something I don't want or planned to have. I'm really disappointed now and just straight bummed out about it...
Now that's a real update, albeit hella late. Real bummer about your Hydro build tho. I wonder why it's so hard to get the proper color. I'd expect an anodizing facility would have the equipment and skill to reproduce a color over multiple batches, or else what's the point of getting color samples?
Yeah, it was bittersweet. On a high note though, we we're talking back and forth this evening about what to do to reach a compromise and we came to a mutual decision, with Jchan, even now, still doing the best he can. In the end of it all, once I have my M65-A here, I'll be just as relieved about getting it as I am about finally seeing this GB be settled for us all!
I can only imagine how much of an ordeal this must feel like on his end. Really glad to see he hasn't given up and is still seeing this through until the end! :thumb:
Post by: petrock on Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:00:50
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:49:51
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:50:45
Good luck to the remaining 13.
Post by: codedisorg on Fri, 26 January 2018, 00:47:24
Email incoming jchan
Post by: wongie on Fri, 26 January 2018, 03:09:55
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 26 January 2018, 04:36:59
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Fri, 26 January 2018, 08:03:50
If anyone with an affected Hydro Blue is unable to get their preferred color, I am willing to trade my (already received) hydro blue for a space grey. We'll need to arrange shipping though.
Hopefully you can arrange that because I know an A-stock Space Gray was offered for me instead of a Hydro Blue. So it's possible, just need to hope that the 3 or 4 Hydro Blues buyers with problems are on this site and see your offer.
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 26 January 2018, 16:17:51
Also looking for either a silver or gray or gold alu bottom in case anyone has decided they don't want theirs.
Now just waiting for silent black switches to Frankenstein some cherry zilents.
Hold fast lucky 13, yours will be worth the wait.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 26 January 2018, 16:46:19
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:04:39
Now I'm just confused, I received my board two weeks ago and it's silver and has no anodizing problems and I'm almost positive I've seen hydro boards on here. I guess that the anodizing on those two colors is much more inconsistent and some of us got lucky?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdc36fb9bf54660fcbaae1b00c8dfff6.jpg)
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I really like the look of your setup, btw. Nice choice of accent colors/locations
Question about the right column. Is that actually delete or is it Home? Trying to find a logical layout for that side. I'd like (from top to bottom) Home - End -PgUp - PgDown but my hydro set doesn't have that compatibility :(
I run with this layout, top to bottom: Del - Pg Up - Pg Dn - Fn
(https://i.imgur.com/qaCIqdV.jpg)
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:29:47
Now I'm just confused, I received my board two weeks ago and it's silver and has no anodizing problems and I'm almost positive I've seen hydro boards on here. I guess that the anodizing on those two colors is much more inconsistent and some of us got lucky?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdc36fb9bf54660fcbaae1b00c8dfff6.jpg)
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I really like the look of your setup, btw. Nice choice of accent colors/locations
Question about the right column. Is that actually delete or is it Home? Trying to find a logical layout for that side. I'd like (from top to bottom) Home - End -PgUp - PgDown but my hydro set doesn't have that compatibility :(
I run with this layout, top to bottom: Del - Pg Up - Pg Dn - FnShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/qaCIqdV.jpg)
so function+page up is home and function+page down is end I guess? That could work!
Post by: therealmckellar on Fri, 26 January 2018, 19:38:24
Lol. K.I got fed up of waiting and decided to cancel the order, and jchan cancelled it and refunded 100% my Paypal. Great response.I don't understand why you guys did this.myself and others have said 56937 times that we would give you the money to take your place and all youd need to do is submit an address change. What's up with no one willing to help others out?
For you to know it was grey and brass plate, polycarbonate and also silver bottom.
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becuase that's scummy and sketchy, and jchan has 80+ extras
Yeah you trading something THAT YOU BOUGHT to someone who doesn't mind waiting longer, that's reaaaal scummy and shady. You kids are so desperate that you'll pathetically say idiotic **** like this because you believe it somehow protects makes you look better to jchan
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Post by: Atredl on Fri, 26 January 2018, 20:14:07
I don't understand why you guys did this.myself and others have said 56937 times that we would give you the money to take your place and all youd need to do is submit an address change. What's up with no one willing to help others out?Option 1: Ask Jchan for refund. Get refund. Done.
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Option 2: Coordinate payment from you. Set up address change w/ Jchan. If between when you pay and shipping time you change your mind, they have to refund you. If there are shipping issues, the original buyer has to be involved in the communication between you and Jchan since Jchan doesn’t have your contact info. If you want a return/refund because of defects, the original buyer has to deal with that since Jchan will refund the account that paid for the invoice.
I don’t know about you but I’ve got to know someone a bit before I’m willing to take on extra risk for them. I’m guessing that’s why people haven’t taken you up on your offer.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 26 January 2018, 22:17:31
I don't understand why you guys did this.myself and others have said 56937 times that we would give you the money to take your place and all youd need to do is submit an address change. What's up with no one willing to help others out?Option 1: Ask Jchan for refund. Get refund. Done.
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Option 2: Coordinate payment from you. Set up address change w/ Jchan. If between when you pay and shipping time you change your mind, they have to refund you. If there are shipping issues, the original buyer has to be involved in the communication between you and Jchan since Jchan doesn’t have your contact info. If you want a return/refund because of defects, the original buyer has to deal with that since Jchan will refund the account that paid for the invoice.
I don’t know about you but I’ve got to know someone a bit before I’m willing to take on extra risk for them. I’m guessing that’s why people haven’t taken you up on your offer.
basically this
it's not that it "makes us look better to jchan"
it's just less of a headache for everyone
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 28 January 2018, 09:43:46
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 28 January 2018, 09:47:05
One of the final 13 here, looking forward to receiving my shipping notification by Wednesday.
Woo Malenky finally gets his board!
Are you gonna bring it to the meetup?
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 28 January 2018, 09:48:29
One of the final 13 here, looking forward to receiving my shipping notification by Wednesday.
Woo Malenky finally gets his board!
Are you gonna bring it to the meetup?
I meant I'm looking forward to receiving the notification by the end of the month as promised :P I really want to bring it to the meetup, there is hope yet.
Post by: Aesomatica on Sun, 28 January 2018, 10:55:56
Found the diode type from a search, just wondering where other people ordered theirs from. There are a LOT of results from digikey, will all of those work?
For instance, my search results from digikey: https://www.digikey.com/products/en/discrete-semiconductor-products/diodes-rectifiers-single/280?k=1N4148W&k=smt&k=SOD-123&k=smt&pkeyword=1N4148W&FV=ffe00118&mnonly=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
I ordered this part number, got 20, just in case
1655-1360-1-ND
1N4148WTR
DIODE GEN PURP 75V 250MA SOD123
Stupid question, how are the round through diodes I got for my let's split different than this? Because I soldered one up and it did nothing...
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 28 January 2018, 13:18:03
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 29 January 2018, 04:38:51
Does anyone have a part number for the diodes? I've sent an email to support@keyclack.com, but wanted to sort it out myself if I could. One of the diodes was missing from the backspace key, which confused the hell out of me as far as QMK goes because I thought it was a split backspace issue.
Found the diode type from a search, just wondering where other people ordered theirs from. There are a LOT of results from digikey, will all of those work?
For instance, my search results from digikey: https://www.digikey.com/products/en/discrete-semiconductor-products/diodes-rectifiers-single/280?k=1N4148W&k=smt&k=SOD-123&k=smt&pkeyword=1N4148W&FV=ffe00118&mnonly=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
I ordered this part number, got 20, just in case
1655-1360-1-ND
1N4148WTR
DIODE GEN PURP 75V 250MA SOD123
Stupid question, how are the round through diodes I got for my let's split different than this? Because I soldered one up and it did nothing...
As far as I know, they are the same. Did you make sure they were the right way around?
Post by: blackginger on Mon, 29 January 2018, 08:36:49
Post by: Valaris on Mon, 29 January 2018, 09:00:33
Anyone with LED issues? It was working fine for about a month then I turned on my PC last night and noticed there was an issue. Of the LED's on the bottom, only the one closest to the USB port lights up and it is stuck green. I cant even turn it off in the bootmapper software.JJwax reported the exact same issues 2-3 pages back in this thread.
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 29 January 2018, 17:40:35
Anyone with LED issues? It was working fine for about a month then I turned on my PC last night and noticed there was an issue. Of the LED's on the bottom, only the one closest to the USB port lights up and it is stuck green. I cant even turn it off in the bootmapper software.
I received a response from jchan about this - he's waiting for me to send a picture, but life is crazy with a 1 month old. I'll update when I get around to it and hear back
Post by: Aesomatica on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:35:52
As far as I know, they are the same. Did you make sure they were the right way around?
Yes, but I'm very inexperienced with such things... Joseph is sending me replacement diodes, so I'll try those out, also ordered some from digikey.
Troubleshooting can be frustrating and fun at the same time...
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 29 January 2018, 20:00:03
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 29 January 2018, 20:41:25
I find many of these RGB LEDs to be incredibly unreliable and prone to giving up the ghost at any time. I've had a couple of my keyboards have the same issue with them.
It's a good thing that this board looks fine w/o them on :)
So you dn't have to worry about issues down the road. Just switch them off :thumb:
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 30 January 2018, 05:24:30
I find many of these RGB LEDs to be incredibly unreliable and prone to giving up the ghost at any time. I've had a couple of my keyboards have the same issue with them.
It's a good thing that this board looks fine w/o them on :)
So you dn't have to worry about issues down the road. Just switch them off :thumb:
Yep, that's what I did with my TX1800.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 31 January 2018, 11:05:50
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:10:17
I find many of these RGB LEDs to be incredibly unreliable and prone to giving up the ghost at any time. I've had a couple of my keyboards have the same issue with them.
It's a good thing that this board looks fine w/o them on :)
So you dn't have to worry about issues down the road. Just switch them off :thumb:
I can't even turn them off :(
Post by: Aesomatica on Wed, 31 January 2018, 15:00:39
1. Check your PCB and verify each switch has diodes on there before you start trying to desolder or troubleshoot your QMK keymap stuff.
2. My PCB came with several bootmagic functions enabled, which really threw me for a loop.
--left control and capslock were swapped
--left alt and left win were swapped
--right alt and right win were swapped
--win keys were disabled
--backslash and backspace were swapped
As you can imagine, it took me quite awhile to troubleshoot switches, etc.
3. I used Zeal stabs, which work quite well with this board. One of the screws on the backspace stab is super close to the halfpad up on top of the PCB.
Other than that, just awaiting my replacement diodes and learning more about QMK.
Here's hoping those remaining boards go out soon, or at least get some info on their status.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 01 February 2018, 04:53:19
--left alt and left win were swapped
as they should be :p
Post by: cooperred on Thu, 01 February 2018, 22:04:20
I find many of these RGB LEDs to be incredibly unreliable and prone to giving up the ghost at any time. I've had a couple of my keyboards have the same issue with them.
Same. They look pretty, but it freezes almost every day
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 00:12:36
Still waiting for a few responses for the email I sent out the other day regarding a color change.
Other than that, the remaining units are going out tomorrow, and we will be complete.
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If you're experiencing PCB issues, I have been getting a lot of issues of the PCBs QC being weird after a lot of use. Just shoot me an email, and we'll try to troubleshoot, or worst come to shove, I'll send a replacement for it.
---
Then an inventory will be done of all remaining pieces for the extra's sale, A and B stock.
---
All pieces available in this GB will be available in some form or another (A or B stock).
---
Mousepads, are available in A and B stock.
Mousepads will be rerun for in March in another flavor.
--
Regarding future M65 sales, and what not. Unfortunately, it has come to a time where I can't support this type of big GB anymore.
We'll be having retail sales of the M65 in other color flavors in the coming months.
--
Besides that, I want to apologize for how tragic this GB has been. I never imagined it being dragged this long, and the fault is mine, and mine alone. I don't wish to get into it, as it is a lot of my personal life, and me allowing it cross over into my work life. I understand the frustration, and everything, but it's long past it, and I apologize for the horrible experience/
Cheers, and hope your day is well.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 02 February 2018, 00:43:19
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 02:09:40
Are there any common issues that you let us know about with the PCBs? Common fixes and such?
The emails I have been getting are that the LEDS shut off. It's only been 3.
The fix is to reflow the usb port 5 pin connector.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 02:50:44
It's now the end of the month, where's my shipping info?
Your tracking info was emailed to you on 1/23
Post by: wongie on Fri, 02 February 2018, 03:03:57
We'll be having retail sales of the M65 in other color flavors in the coming months.
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Besides that, I want to apologize for how tragic this GB has been. I never imagined it being dragged this long, and the fault is mine, and mine alone. I don't wish to get into it, as it is a lot of my personal life, and me allowing it cross over into my work life. I understand the frustration, and everything, but it's long past it, and I apologize for the horrible experience/
Cheers, and hope your day is well.
Thanks jchan, despite the drama I'm sure plenty of people appreciate the time you put into setting this GB up in the first instance and sticking by it to the end. Looking forward to snooping at the extras left.
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 02 February 2018, 07:14:15
It's now the end of the month, where's my shipping info?
Your tracking info was emailed to you on 1/23
I definitely don't have it. I updated my email address for this group buy months ago, maybe you're attempting to send it to the default email address from my paypal.
Post by: nerium on Fri, 02 February 2018, 07:25:52
Thanks for your candor and effort in trying to get this all wrapped up, jchan. Nobody is perfect - everyone makes mistakes and sometimes handles things the wrong way. It's easy to take on a large project like this with the and realize (in the thick of it) that you've become completely overwhelmed. I for one will still be happy to make orders through KeyClack as I like the work you and your collaborators are doing. I just hope this was a lesson learned and that future projects will be a little smoother. For yours and everyone else's sake.
P.S. If anyone has any tips for first time board builders, I'm all ears :)
I've got my Kester 24 leaded (rosin core) solder, decent Weller soldering iron, etc. but have yet to order my switches and stabs. I'm thinking R9 Zealio Zilent 78g switches (dark blue) and debating between 6.25u vs 7u spacebar. I'm primarily an HHKB guy so the 7u might suit me better. Thoughts?
Cheers.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 02 February 2018, 07:37:36
P.S. If anyone has any tips for first time board builders, I'm all ears :)
I've got my Kester 24 leaded (rosin core) solder, decent Weller soldering iron, etc. but have yet to order my switches and stabs. I'm thinking R9 Zealio Zilent 78g switches (dark blue) and debating between 6.25u vs 7u spacebar. I'm primarily an HHKB guy so the 7u might suit me better. Thoughts?
soldering is way easier than you might think. Just check out a basic tutorial video on youtube, or check out one of skiwithpete's (1up keyboards) streams.
Also, use your hands for soldering, not ears :p
PS: 7U space is grace! ;)
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 02 February 2018, 08:00:00
Hi everyone,
Still waiting for a few responses for the email I sent out the other day regarding a color change.
Other than that, the remaining units are going out tomorrow, and we will be complete.
--
If you're experiencing PCB issues, I have been getting a lot of issues of the PCBs QC being weird after a lot of use. Just shoot me an email, and we'll try to troubleshoot, or worst come to shove, I'll send a replacement for it.
---
Then an inventory will be done of all remaining pieces for the extra's sale, A and B stock.
---
All pieces available in this GB will be available in some form or another (A or B stock).
---
Mousepads, are available in A and B stock.
Mousepads will be rerun for in March in another flavor.
--
Regarding future M65 sales, and what not. Unfortunately, it has come to a time where I can't support this type of big GB anymore.
We'll be having retail sales of the M65 in other color flavors in the coming months.
--
Besides that, I want to apologize for how tragic this GB has been. I never imagined it being dragged this long, and the fault is mine, and mine alone. I don't wish to get into it, as it is a lot of my personal life, and me allowing it cross over into my work life. I understand the frustration, and everything, but it's long past it, and I apologize for the horrible experience/
Cheers, and hope your day is well.
Any chance you'll have, as part of the a and b stock extras, extra non-nylon bases?
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 02 February 2018, 16:19:52
P.S. If anyone has any tips for first time board builders, I'm all ears :)
I've got my Kester 24 leaded (rosin core) solder, decent Weller soldering iron, etc. but have yet to order my switches and stabs. I'm thinking R9 Zealio Zilent 78g switches (dark blue) and debating between 6.25u vs 7u spacebar. I'm primarily an HHKB guy so the 7u might suit me better. Thoughts?
Cheers.
My main pro-tip is related to the tip (ha, ha):
1. Do not use the cone tip for your soldering iron. Instead use the one that looks like a flathead screwdriver. The heat will be more concentrated on the edge of the tip and melt the solder more quickly.
2a. Make sure you heat the pin of the switch and the PCB pad for a second or two before applying the solder so that it sticks to it instead of sticking to the soldering iron when you pull it away (solder adheres to hot things). 2b. Shove the solder into the pin/pad and not the iron.
3. Give the soldering iron a few seconds between switches to heat back up.
It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Desoldering is what sucks.
Post by: naut on Fri, 02 February 2018, 17:06:04
[attach=1]
Build log. https://imgur.com/a/bFfTB (https://imgur.com/a/bFfTB) :D
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 February 2018, 18:33:17
Mines.
(Attachment Link)
Build log. https://imgur.com/a/bFfTB (https://imgur.com/a/bFfTB) :D
blanks are ****ing tops
Post by: Aesomatica on Fri, 02 February 2018, 19:22:59
Overall impressed with the support.
Post by: p_blaze on Sat, 03 February 2018, 00:21:37
Hi everyone,
Still waiting for a few responses for the email I sent out the other day regarding a color change.
Other than that, the remaining units are going out tomorrow, and we will be complete.
--
If you're experiencing PCB issues, I have been getting a lot of issues of the PCBs QC being weird after a lot of use. Just shoot me an email, and we'll try to troubleshoot, or worst come to shove, I'll send a replacement for it.
---
Then an inventory will be done of all remaining pieces for the extra's sale, A and B stock.
---
All pieces available in this GB will be available in some form or another (A or B stock).
---
Mousepads, are available in A and B stock.
Mousepads will be rerun for in March in another flavor.
--
Regarding future M65 sales, and what not. Unfortunately, it has come to a time where I can't support this type of big GB anymore.
We'll be having retail sales of the M65 in other color flavors in the coming months.
--
Besides that, I want to apologize for how tragic this GB has been. I never imagined it being dragged this long, and the fault is mine, and mine alone. I don't wish to get into it, as it is a lot of my personal life, and me allowing it cross over into my work life. I understand the frustration, and everything, but it's long past it, and I apologize for the horrible experience/
Cheers, and hope your day is well.
Thanks for the transparency. Do you know what colors will be available in the retail stock as opposed to the a and b stock from the GB?
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 February 2018, 14:14:32
Besides that, I want to apologize for how tragic this GB has been. I never imagined it being dragged this long, and the fault is mine, and mine alone. I don't wish to get into it, as it is a lot of my personal life, and me allowing it cross over into my work life. I understand the frustration, and everything, but it's long past it, and I apologize for the horrible experience/
Cheers, and hope your day is well.
Didn't see this before
Thanks for running this GB through your family issues, hope things get better for you soon.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 17:59:04
Cheers, everyone.
Post by: SakeJams on Sat, 03 February 2018, 18:04:06
Tracking will be sent in the next hour, and then this GB is complete.Good to see dude, I'm sure you'll feel better with the weight of all this off your shoulders
Cheers, everyone.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 20:44:14
gb complete
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 20:44:57
GB complete means packages have been dispatched /tracking sent out.
Support doesn't end. I still have some emails to tend to, but it's a Saturday, so I'll be seeing those on Monday, cheers.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 20:58:14
How the sale will be conducted:
- Not As Kits
- Pick your Part, like you want it.
For example, you will have all of these parts to choose from, some more limited than others.
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
etc etc.
There are no complete kits sold for this. You can to assemble you kit as you see fit, and opt for anything you want.
Other colors will come out at retail pricing, but as complete kits. I'm hoping to improve the ecosystem of the M65A by trying to stock parts for it on an ongoing basis for a little while.
A complete A stock kit is : $430 - $500, the upper scale being if you opt for qmk, brass plate, and aluminum bottom.
For those interested in comparing the pricing, the $500 unit was $305 during the GB.
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If you have any questions, just send it to support@keyclack.com ; thanks and have a good rest of your weekend everyone.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 February 2018, 21:15:42
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 03 February 2018, 21:28:00
For those interested in comparing the pricing, the $500 unit was $305 during the GB.
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If you have any questions, just send it to support@keyclack.com ; thanks and have a good rest of your weekend everyone.
Will you be responding to anything to do with Master Control Rebirth? Will these funds be used to refund? ;)Email sent about lack of updates 40 days ago, no response, no update, no notion of any refund. What gives?Same here, I sent an email 3 weeks ago and another one 1 week ago. No response yet. :(It's sad getting updates on this thread.
I'm thankful I asked for a refund when he first offered because I realized I had too many keysets. Boy did I dodge a bullet.
He's really been MIA for a while now and it's becoming rather concerning especially how he's launched other products. Was contemplating getting BKE domes but I think I'm gonna steer clear for now unless he starts resolving his outstanding customer commitment issues.
I know he's had personal issues which is very unfortunate but it becomes a little inexcusable when you start launching other things also.Still no reply, nor refund for this.I want to believe! If we just can get a status update on if it’s reasonably possible it can be fulfilled or just a dead case. I really need the Nordic keys for my more-than-year old project to finish. :)I have sent a few emails asking for a refund over the last month, I got no replies. I got quick replies for questions I had about the BKE domes though, so I know my emails are going through.
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It'll be resolved next week, cheers
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 03 February 2018, 21:45:57
Post by: wongie on Sun, 04 February 2018, 03:36:29
Post by: Aesomatica on Sun, 04 February 2018, 09:35:20
Thank you!
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:11:41
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:13:54
So the only parts available are
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
???
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:17:46
I don't think I am understanding this right:
So the only parts available are
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
???
For example
[...]
etc etc.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:31:01
I don't think I am understanding this right:
So the only parts available are
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
???For example
[...]
etc etc.
Hmm... I didn't realize three question marks made an emoticon...
I hope 'etc etc' covers more than less
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:34:50
I don't think I am understanding this right:
So the only parts available are
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
???For example
[...]
etc etc.
Hmm... I didn't realize three question marks made an emoticon...
I hope 'etc etc' covers more than less
i believe there are about 80 board's worth of parts, so the selection should be pretty good
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 04 February 2018, 16:40:19
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 04 February 2018, 16:44:58
****. M65A or new 3d printer...
Depends on the printer, tbh.
SLA or a bigger FDM? :O
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Just curious, since my friend recently got a Laser SLA Printer, and has printed a bunch of awesome stuff on it.
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 04 February 2018, 22:08:13
****. M65A or new 3d printer...
Depends on the printer, tbh.
SLA or a bigger FDM? :O
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Just curious, since my friend recently got a Laser SLA Printer, and has printed a bunch of awesome stuff on it.
I have a Monoprice Maker Select 2.1 that **** the bed (burned bed heater connector) that I need to rebuild or replace. I've been looking at the Ultibots D300VS+ and the Prusa i3 MK3.
Took a look at SLA tonight, but I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of it.
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 05 February 2018, 01:54:23
EDIT: I received the customs letter today and went to pay and pick it up. First inspection, everything looks to be in perfect condition.
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 05 February 2018, 05:10:57
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 05 February 2018, 05:30:09
Is it going to be possible to buy everything I need to assemble M65 keyboard? screws, for example.
Screws are probably part of any bottom piece or so, doubt they'll have to be ordered separately. If you order a top, a bottom, a PCB and a Plate, you should have everything you need to assemble it (minus switches, keycaps and cable of course, stabilizers I'm not sure, possibly only included in future 'complete kits').
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 05 February 2018, 14:43:33
Jchan, I emailed you about sending my tracking info to the correct email address.
EDIT: I received the customs letter today and went to pay and pick it up. First inspection, everything looks to be in perfect condition.
Malenky gunna bring his M65 to the UK Meetup :D
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 05 February 2018, 14:57:56
Jchan, I emailed you about sending my tracking info to the correct email address.
EDIT: I received the customs letter today and went to pay and pick it up. First inspection, everything looks to be in perfect condition.
Malenky gunna bring his M65 to the UK Meetup :D
I hope you are bringing yours Duy!! I’m still on the lookout for one as I’ll likely miss the sale knowing my luck!!
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Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 05 February 2018, 20:20:57
https://goo.gl/forms/XMOBUpowupgVqE8C2
Currently, there are 20 submissions, which is more than I expected :)
How you'll be chosen:
- The quality of the guide (photo quality does NOT count, as I'm aware that people do not have high quality cameras). Quality of the guide means, description, how in-depth you go describing the process, or tools, and parts you use.
- Personalization: How you added your own personal spice the guide. Whether that's jokes, or memes, whatever it is - Make it yours & own it :).
Reward!
- There are TWO reward options you can choose from, and there is only 1 winner :).
- Brass Plate + PCB + Additional Base (if i have that color) w/ Shipping to your location (global, open)
- 50% Off M65-A R2 Base Kit whenever that happens
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 06 February 2018, 07:44:52
I’m dumb, the photo shows a weight but there are indeed plates available.
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 06 February 2018, 08:03:27
Post by: energyd on Tue, 06 February 2018, 09:09:16
Is it going to be possible to buy everything I need to assemble M65 keyboard? screws, for example.
Screws are probably part of any bottom piece or so, doubt they'll have to be ordered separately. If you order a top, a bottom, a PCB and a Plate, you should have everything you need to assemble it (minus switches, keycaps and cable of course, stabilizers I'm not sure, possibly only included in future 'complete kits').
Need a confirmation for this
Post by: dohmain on Tue, 06 February 2018, 11:30:10
Is it going to be possible to buy everything I need to assemble M65 keyboard? screws, for example.
Screws are probably part of any bottom piece or so, doubt they'll have to be ordered separately. If you order a top, a bottom, a PCB and a Plate, you should have everything you need to assemble it (minus switches, keycaps and cable of course, stabilizers I'm not sure, possibly only included in future 'complete kits').
Need a confirmation for this
Don't assume anything... like how I assumed a set of feet would be included with each base I bought.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 06 February 2018, 11:34:28
Can you link the store?I see the parts on the store that will be available tomorrow. A stock and b stock tops and bottoms and PCBs, but no plates?
I’m dumb, the photo shows a weight but there are indeed plates available.
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 06 February 2018, 11:41:07
someone please ask JChan whether screws are included or not
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 06 February 2018, 13:18:30
Anybody got a picture of a Space Grey with alu bottom and not nylon? Curious what it looks like in combination before I race to snag one.
Here are some pictures of space gray with alu bottom. These pictures were taken outside on an overcast day.
https://imgur.com/ybmkWGo
https://imgur.com/TmWEQJQ
https://imgur.com/Cn1hm8j
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 February 2018, 14:30:20
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 06 February 2018, 14:31:31
Does the pcb support screw in stabs?
Yes. Came with some GMK screw-in stabs in the GB actually.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 February 2018, 14:41:01
Does the pcb support screw in stabs?
Yes. Came with some GMK screw-in stabs in the GB actually.
How smooth are those? If I can snag an extra tomorrow, I'm gonna order some from Zeal. I have theirs on my Zeal60 and they feel great.
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 06 February 2018, 14:47:11
Does the pcb support screw in stabs?
Yes. Came with some GMK screw-in stabs in the GB actually.
How smooth are those? If I can snag an extra tomorrow, I'm gonna order some from Zeal. I have theirs on my Zeal60 and they feel great.
I don't know about stock, but they feel great lubed. Unless looks matter to you, I have yet to learn about the added value in Zeal stabs (R2).
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 February 2018, 15:18:55
Does the pcb support screw in stabs?
Yes. Came with some GMK screw-in stabs in the GB actually.
How smooth are those? If I can snag an extra tomorrow, I'm gonna order some from Zeal. I have theirs on my Zeal60 and they feel great.
I don't know about stock, but they feel great lubed. Unless looks matter to you, I have yet to learn about the added value in Zeal stabs (R2).
My Zeal stabs are both quiet and smooth...and un-lubed. No rattle at all. All the other stabs I've used recently are noisy and mushy.
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 06 February 2018, 15:44:36
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 06 February 2018, 15:47:59
Does the pcb support screw in stabs?
Yes. Came with some GMK screw-in stabs in the GB actually.
How smooth are those? If I can snag an extra tomorrow, I'm gonna order some from Zeal. I have theirs on my Zeal60 and they feel great.
I don't know about stock, but they feel great lubed. Unless looks matter to you, I have yet to learn about the added value in Zeal stabs (R2).
My Zeal stabs are both quiet and smooth...and un-lubed. No rattle at all. All the other stabs I've used recently are noisy and mushy.
I have Zeal stabs in mine, and I highly recommend them. Very smooth and quiet with no rattle at all. That said, I have only used GMK plate mounted stabs in other boards and not the PCB mounted variety, so I am not comparing apples to apples.
Post by: kustom3 on Tue, 06 February 2018, 15:51:58
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
I don't remember anything about the PCB files, but this (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-C81Q5UTO8zUlIyTld4S1Z2R00) might be what you're looking for.
Edit: Much better content including PCB files in the next post.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 06 February 2018, 16:24:07
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 06 February 2018, 16:31:46
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
Plate file is here. Feel free. I was thinking about making some acrylic ones with my laser
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Screws are included in the kits, if you get a complete one.
However, if you require screws, just email support@keyclack.com and just pay for the postage for the screw set, along with your M65A order number or confirmation from the extras sale.
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Yes, screw in stabs work as they were included. Zeal variant or GMK Screw in Stabs work of course.
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We are low on weights and plates for these, but we'll have some in March as we'll have a new shipment of parts.
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For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.
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Cheers, and let me know if you have any other questions.
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 06 February 2018, 17:02:09
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
Plate file is here. Feel free. I was thinking about making some acrylic ones with my laserprintercutter. lmao
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Screws are included in the kits, if you get a complete one.
However, if you require screws, just email support@keyclack.com and just pay for the postage for the screw set, along with your M65A order number or confirmation from the extras sale.
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Yes, screw in stabs work as they were included. Zeal variant or GMK Screw in Stabs work of course.
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We are low on weights and plates for these, but we'll have some in March as we'll have a new shipment of parts.
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For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.
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Cheers, and let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you, JChan!
It would actually be pretty cool to see an Acrylic M65 Plate ;)
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 06 February 2018, 17:02:54
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
I don't remember anything about the PCB files, but this (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-C81Q5UTO8zUlIyTld4S1Z2R00) might be what you're looking for.
Edit: Much better content including PCB files in the next post.
Didn’t JChan link/upload the plate and PCB files up somewhere? Could anyone link it again?
I would love to get a polycarbonate plate someday.
https://github.com/Keyclack/M65-A
Thank you guys as well! I appreciate it!
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 06 February 2018, 17:28:24
I've had a a few 60% polycarb plates water cut before and it turned out pretty nice. It always has a few scratches, but the material is flexible and strong. Makes for a pretty nice plate.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 06 February 2018, 21:58:06
*snip*
I'm thinking R9 Zealio Zilent 78g switches (dark blue)... Thoughts?
Was looking at these right when I read your post... they look pretty fantastic and Zeal says they'll show up this month. I'm probably gonna wait for these & the screw-in gold stabs before I build (may as well go all out for something this nice)
Post by: xQv on Tue, 06 February 2018, 22:46:04
Oh, and extra's will be on sale mid next week, after we complete an inventory.
How the sale will be conducted:
- Not As Kits
- Pick your Part, like you want it.
For example, you will have all of these parts to choose from, some more limited than others.
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
etc etc.
There are no complete kits sold for this. You can to assemble you kit as you see fit, and opt for anything you want.
Other colors will come out at retail pricing, but as complete kits. I'm hoping to improve the ecosystem of the M65A by trying to stock parts for it on an ongoing basis for a little while.
A complete A stock kit is : $430 - $500, the upper scale being if you opt for qmk, brass plate, and aluminum bottom.
For those interested in comparing the pricing, the $500 unit was $305 during the GB.
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If you have any questions, just send it to support@keyclack.com ; thanks and have a good rest of your weekend everyone.
You mention other colors being available as kits. Will this be available next week along with the a la carte options?
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 02:30:26
For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.
Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 07 February 2018, 08:31:21
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:47:44
Which plate would complement box navy feels more, aluminum or brass?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 14:01:10
5 Top Options
6 Base Options
2 Plate Options
2 PCB Options
= A lot of custom options, but takes a lot longer to manage
Sorry! But I think the options will be good.
For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.
Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Definitely cheaper for those kits ~
I just remembered Jchan mentionning a "surprise" being sent to everyone once the GB is done. Did we ever get news on that? I'm curious now.
Those will be sent out in a month or two, as I'm still in the middle of preparing them. I think you'd be happy with them, once they are ready. So maybe post about it mid march? Should be ready by then :)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 07 February 2018, 14:14:42
Oh, and extra's will be on sale mid next week, after we complete an inventory.
How the sale will be conducted:
- Not As Kits
- Pick your Part, like you want it.
For example, you will have all of these parts to choose from, some more limited than others.
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
etc etc.
There are no complete kits sold for this. You can to assemble you kit as you see fit, and opt for anything you want.
Other colors will come out at retail pricing, but as complete kits. I'm hoping to improve the ecosystem of the M65A by trying to stock parts for it on an ongoing basis for a little while.
A complete A stock kit is : $430 - $500, the upper scale being if you opt for qmk, brass plate, and aluminum bottom.
For those interested in comparing the pricing, the $500 unit was $305 during the GB.
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If you have any questions, just send it to support@keyclack.com ; thanks and have a good rest of your weekend everyone.
Thanks Jchan,
So if I buy only the top case+pcb+plate+feet, I won't get any screws since it's not a full kit?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 14:32:51
Oh, and extra's will be on sale mid next week, after we complete an inventory.
How the sale will be conducted:
- Not As Kits
- Pick your Part, like you want it.
For example, you will have all of these parts to choose from, some more limited than others.
- A Stock Top Black
- A Stock Top Rose Gold
- A Stock Top Champagne
- B Stock Bottom Black
- Hydro Blue Plate
- Black Plate
- Weight
- Feet
- PCB
etc etc.
There are no complete kits sold for this. You can to assemble you kit as you see fit, and opt for anything you want.
Other colors will come out at retail pricing, but as complete kits. I'm hoping to improve the ecosystem of the M65A by trying to stock parts for it on an ongoing basis for a little while.
A complete A stock kit is : $430 - $500, the upper scale being if you opt for qmk, brass plate, and aluminum bottom.
For those interested in comparing the pricing, the $500 unit was $305 during the GB.
--
If you have any questions, just send it to support@keyclack.com ; thanks and have a good rest of your weekend everyone.
Thanks Jchan,
So if I buy only the top case+pcb+plate+feet, I won't get any screws since it's not a full kit?
Just email support@keyclack.com if you need screws, and I'll add them into your parcel.
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If anyone else requires screws, just email support@keyclack.com and pay for postage for it.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:09:15
I'm sorry, I'm feeling particularly dense for not understanding. I appreciate your patience.For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Definitely cheaper for those kits
So if we wait until March we can get a full M65-A kit (top, base, plate, pcb, weight, feet, we build ourselves) for less than buying them part by part today? Will is still be A-stock? Will there be any differences other than just having to wait longer?
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:20:10
I'm sorry, I'm feeling particularly dense for not understanding. I appreciate your patience.For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Definitely cheaper for those kits
So if we wait until March we can get a full M65-A kit (top, base, plate, pcb, weight, feet, we build ourselves) for less than buying them part by part today? Will is still be A-stock? Will there be any differences other than just having to wait longer?
They're different colors from the GB. Depends on your preference. You may, or may not like the colors.
A-Stock
The retail units will only be available with Brass Plates, so no alu plate option at this stage.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:24:59
I'm sorry, I'm feeling particularly dense for not understanding. I appreciate your patience.For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Definitely cheaper for those kits
So if we wait until March we can get a full M65-A kit (top, base, plate, pcb, weight, feet, we build ourselves) for less than buying them part by part today? Will is still be A-stock? Will there be any differences other than just having to wait longer?
They're different colors from the GB. Depends on your preference. You may, or may not like the colors.
A-Stock
The retail units will only be available with Brass Plates, so no alu plate option at this stage.
Do we know what colors for the march batch will be?
Debating waiting now...especially if we get a slightly darker space grey :D
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:29:56
They're different colors from the GB. Depends on your preference. You may, or may not like the colors.
A-Stock
The retail units will only be available with Brass Plates, so no alu plate option at this stage.
So if we want OG color we will at least want to buy a top plate today. There will still be the plastic bottom right? And will the brass weight be the same?
Brass plates are polished?
Thank you for all of the info Jchan, it is really appreciated
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:31:00
They're different colors from the GB. Depends on your preference. You may, or may not like the colors.
A-Stock
The retail units will only be available with Brass Plates, so no alu plate option at this stage.
So if we want OG color we will at least want to buy a top plate today. There will still be the plastic bottom right? And will the brass weight be the same?
Brass plates are polished?
Thank you for all of the info Jchan, it is really appreciated
So if we want OG color we will at least want to buy a top plate today.
- Yes
There will still be the plastic bottom right?
- Nylon, but yes.
And will the brass weight be the same?
- Yes, but different color.
Brass plates are polished?
- Yes.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:45:26
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 16:48:06
Will the standard colors continue on? IE Black/Silver/Space grey?
Maybe in the future, but not in the foreseeable future (the current plan)
Post by: swangful on Wed, 07 February 2018, 17:05:13
Will the standard colors continue on? IE Black/Silver/Space grey?
Maybe in the future, but not in the foreseeable future (the current plan)
Thanks for the speedy replies. :)
Fingers crossed for a space grey then.
Post by: robbles on Wed, 07 February 2018, 17:42:22
Will the standard colors continue on? IE Black/Silver/Space grey?
Maybe in the future, but not in the foreseeable future (the current plan)
Excited to see what crazy colors your mind has cooked up!
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 18:25:27
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:08:10
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:09:19
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:11:08
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:11:35
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Post by: msilvv on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:12:32
Used PayPal for base and it said it couldn’t process when I completed the order. But I have an email from PayPal preauthorizing the payment. Wonder what will happensame thing happened here I hope I either get an order confirmation or a refund :/
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Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:13:41
Used PayPal for base and it said it couldn’t process when I completed the order. But I have an email from PayPal preauthorizing the payment. Wonder what will happen
Used PayPal for base and it said it couldn’t process when I completed the order. But I have an email from PayPal preauthorizing the payment. Wonder what will happensame thing happened here I hope I either get an order confirmation or a refund :/
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pre-auth won't go through, the pre-auth will fall off the account and no purchase will have been made, and no product will be purchased.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:15:46
Oh well, easy come easy go.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:17:26
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:19:46
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:20:43
Got a spare pcb (saw a few people talk about failing leds) and matte black plate. Somewhat bummed there were no desk mats... but c'est la vie.
There are still deskmats https://www.keyclack.com/product/m65amousepad
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:26:32
Got a spare pcb (saw a few people talk about failing leds) and matte black plate. Somewhat bummed there were no desk mats... but c'est la vie.
There are still deskmats https://www.keyclack.com/product/m65amousepad
Ah... thanks for the heads up!
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:32:19
I got mine with no issues...I admit I tried to be as lightning fast as possible with all products opened in different tabs.
Did the same, if we get an invoice from keyclack does that confirm the order went through?
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:43:43
Furious with Keyclack right now.
Edit: Keyclack was able to void the transaction, but the authorization activity flagged as fraud to my bank and I had to call them to get that resolved before I can even access the money. RIP any of the M56-A options I wanted.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:57:51
Thank you Keyclack for authorizing my bank account for $500 dollars every time I tried to checkout but one of the items had become out of stock and the transaction failed. Now I can't buy one of these because my account is tied up $2500 in authorizations
Furious with Keyclack right now.
Edit: My bank isn't able to help, and I am on hold with PayPal who says they have a 3 hour wait right now... Great.
The charge is a pending charge, and has been voided. You'll see it shortly, but I'm unaware on the timeline.
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:58:49
I got mine with no issues...I admit I tried to be as lightning fast as possible with all products opened in different tabs.
Did the same, if we get an invoice from keyclack does that confirm the order went through?
Your order confirms if you have an email invoice + you can see your order in the "Order" tab on keyclack.com
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 20:04:04
I am prepared to offer an inordinate sum to whoever just cartjacked the 1 champagne base from me
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Email me.
I never built my M65-A champagne, and I think it has the champagne plate that I could send your way, but I'll have to check....but at least I'll have your information in case I do find a spare.
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 07 February 2018, 20:17:16
and this right here is why I knew everything would turn out okay with this gb.I am prepared to offer an inordinate sum to whoever just cartjacked the 1 champagne base from me
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Email me.
I never built my M65-A champagne, and I think it has the champagne plate that I could send your way, but I'll have to check....but at least I'll have your information in case I do find a spare.
Email sent, thanks mate
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Post by: lunr on Wed, 07 February 2018, 20:17:23
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 20:19:36
Just wondering, the people who are ordering full kits, are they getting the pretty retail box or it's going to be chucked into a cardboard box with bubble wrap and a keyclack business card?
Kits will be in a box.
All pieces will be individually wrapped with bubble wrap, and the box will be full and won't shake pieces around.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:02:49
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:43:08
I fell asleep and got on about a half hour after the sale started. I was able to order all the options I wanted. Of course it was for the space gray. I guess it was mad dash to get the limited colors. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive!! :D
Hmm, I tried to get a space gray bottom about 4 min after it started, there was 1 left, I added it to cart and checked out with paypal to find it was sold out. So, someone was living an alternate timeline
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:47:54
I fell asleep and got on about a half hour after the sale started. I was able to order all the options I wanted. Of course it was for the space gray. I guess it was mad dash to get the limited colors. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive!! :D
Hmm, I tried to get a space gray bottom about 4 min after it started, there was 1 left, I added it to cart and checked out with paypal to find it was sold out. So, someone was living an alternate timeline
The Keyclack merchant system doesn't secure Items placed in cart, so items in your cart can still be purchased by someone else while you are checking out. The Keyclack Merchant will also authorize your paypal the full amount of the purchase when you select your paypal as the Payment Method, but before you place your order. Even if you decide not to place the order and remove all items from the cart, your paypal will still have an authorization for the full amount.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:48:14
I fell asleep and got on about a half hour after the sale started. I was able to order all the options I wanted. Of course it was for the space gray. I guess it was mad dash to get the limited colors. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive!! :D
Hmm, I tried to get a space gray bottom about 4 min after it started, there was 1 left, I added it to cart and checked out with paypal to find it was sold out. So, someone was living an alternate timeline
prolly means space grey top, not bottom
Post by: energyd on Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:00:27
Post by: na7thana on Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:01:43
I fell asleep and got on about a half hour after the sale started. I was able to order all the options I wanted. Of course it was for the space gray. I guess it was mad dash to get the limited colors. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive!! :D
Hmm, I tried to get a space gray bottom about 4 min after it started, there was 1 left, I added it to cart and checked out with paypal to find it was sold out. So, someone was living an alternate timeline
The Keyclack merchant system doesn't secure Items placed in cart, so items in your cart can still be purchased by someone else while you are checking out. The Keyclack Merchant will also authorize your paypal the full amount of the purchase when you select your paypal as the Payment Method, but before you place your order. Even if you decide not to place the order and remove all items from the cart, your paypal will still have an authorization for the full amount.
Not sure what the PayPal authorization thing is, I couldn't check out and had 2 emails from PayPal saying that I authorized 2 payments of $400+ to Keyclack yet nothing shows up in my orders and funds have been taken from my PayPal account Q_Q
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:14:27
I fell asleep and got on about a half hour after the sale started. I was able to order all the options I wanted. Of course it was for the space gray. I guess it was mad dash to get the limited colors. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive!! :D
Hmm, I tried to get a space gray bottom about 4 min after it started, there was 1 left, I added it to cart and checked out with paypal to find it was sold out. So, someone was living an alternate timeline
It was there. I almost bought it, but decided on the nylon bottom for the leds. Maybe it was an alternate timeline. :p
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:05:47
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An authorization is a theoretical “transaction” a merchant processor charges to an account in order to verify that it is an active ‘funded’ account before attempting an actual transaction across it. Typically a processor will authorize between $1-$10 that typically falls off your account at the time of the actual transaction. If the authorization fails then the system knows the account can’t process the actual transaction and the transaction is declined. Sometimes authorizations will take time to fall off. There is no reason Keyclack should process an authorization for the full amount of the transaction that is being authorized for, not only is it radical overkill, but it can, and in Keyclack’s situation does, take time to fall off, and then if you don’t have enough money after the authorization to process the actual transaction you can have the whole thing fail just because you didn’t expect to need twice the amount of the purchase you are trying to make.
Post by: na7thana on Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:18:00
Not sure what the PayPal authorization thing is, I couldn't check out and had 2 emails from PayPal saying that I authorized 2 payments of $400+ to Keyclack yet nothing shows up in my orders and funds have been taken from my PayPal account Q_Q
An authorization is a theoretical “transaction” a merchant processor charges to an account in order to verify that it is an active ‘funded’ account before attempting an actual transaction across it. Typically a processor will authorize between $1-$10 that typically falls off your account at the time of the actual transaction. If the authorization fails then the system knows the account can’t process the actual transaction and the transaction is declined. Sometimes authorizations will take time to fall off. There is no reason Keyclack should process an authorization for the full amount of the transaction that is being authorized for, not only is it radical overkill, but it can, and in Keyclack’s situation does, take time to fall off, and then if you don’t have enough money after the authorization to process the actual transaction you can have the whole thing fail just because you didn’t expect to need twice the amount of the purchase you are trying to make.
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Wow, didn't know that was the process. I emailed Jchan and awaiting a response to hopefully get my money back and be able to place an order since I don't have 2x the amount of an M65 in my PayPal.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:24:21
Not sure what the PayPal authorization thing is, I couldn't check out and had 2 emails from PayPal saying that I authorized 2 payments of $400+ to Keyclack yet nothing shows up in my orders and funds have been taken from my PayPal account Q_Q
An authorization is a theoretical “transaction” a merchant processor charges to an account in order to verify that it is an active ‘funded’ account before attempting an actual transaction across it. Typically a processor will authorize between $1-$10 that typically falls off your account at the time of the actual transaction. If the authorization fails then the system knows the account can’t process the actual transaction and the transaction is declined. Sometimes authorizations will take time to fall off. There is no reason Keyclack should process an authorization for the full amount of the transaction that is being authorized for, not only is it radical overkill, but it can, and in Keyclack’s situation does, take time to fall off, and then if you don’t have enough money after the authorization to process the actual transaction you can have the whole thing fail just because you didn’t expect to need twice the amount of the purchase you are trying to make.
Wow, didn't know that was the process. I emailed Jchan and awaiting a response to hopefully get my money back and be able to place an order since I don't have 2x the amount of an M65 in my PayPal.
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You will definitely get the money back, authorizations always fall off and never actually come out of your bank account. Jchan definitely can void the authorization to make that happen sooner though. Typically you shouldn't need to worry about the 2x cost thing because the auth should fall off at the same time the transaction completes, but it doesn't always happen that way. Jchan will be able to get it straightened out for sure!
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:25:44
Not sure what the PayPal authorization thing is, I couldn't check out and had 2 emails from PayPal saying that I authorized 2 payments of $400+ to Keyclack yet nothing shows up in my orders and funds have been taken from my PayPal account Q_Q
An authorization is a theoretical “transaction” a merchant processor charges to an account in order to verify that it is an active ‘funded’ account before attempting an actual transaction across it. Typically a processor will authorize between $1-$10 that typically falls off your account at the time of the actual transaction. If the authorization fails then the system knows the account can’t process the actual transaction and the transaction is declined. Sometimes authorizations will take time to fall off. There is no reason Keyclack should process an authorization for the full amount of the transaction that is being authorized for, not only is it radical overkill, but it can, and in Keyclack’s situation does, take time to fall off, and then if you don’t have enough money after the authorization to process the actual transaction you can have the whole thing fail just because you didn’t expect to need twice the amount of the purchase you are trying to make.
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The authorization is an authorization to proceed with the payment. Since our site is a custom build, you have to authorize us to charge you X amount.
Once you hit place order, the order is confirmed with our site (our backend), and your payment is charged and collected.
So you can have an authorization, without an order, but then that auth will be voided as it isn't confirmed by our site, so the charge won't post. If you used a card of any sort, the payment is left "Pending", but not "Charged". These are states in the payment processor.
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To put in simple terms, this is a situation which I am aware of, and we'll fix it. Unfortunately, the circumstances of 'FCFS' sales, don't help this in anyway.
Regarding cart locking and such: this is a case which is hard to tackle because there are two sides of the coin. On one side, someone who has something in their cart, prevents someone else from getting it. Assuming they do not proceed in X time, the logical step is to put that item back into the inventory for sale. However, it's hard to say that this is fair because what if someone else wanted it, but it was cart locked, then thrown back into the inventory, then someone else can get it who could have had it first.
By having it be "First to check out", the problem is somewhat mitigated. It isn't the most elegant solution, but it helps the people who can check out faster, get it first.
It's interesting to see the mechanics of ecommerce come into play, and I'd love to hear your opinion about which way to go. It's hard to make completely fair, but hopefully there's a way to make it more fair.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:45:31
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Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 01:00:29
So I really wanted in on this but $160 shipping kills it. That’s nearly 40% of the cost plus then another £175 in customs making this an $800 board.
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Send me an email so I can review the shipping quote, thanks mate.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Thu, 08 February 2018, 01:08:18
Have done!! Thank youSo I really wanted in on this but $160 shipping kills it. That’s nearly 40% of the cost plus then another £175 in customs making this an $800 board.
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Send me an email so I can review the shipping quote, thanks mate.
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Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 01:56:05
Post by: Valaris on Thu, 08 February 2018, 06:34:26
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 08 February 2018, 10:41:53
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 19:43:17
If you have multiple orders, I'll combine them, and refund you the total shipping difference next week
If you are international, I'll double check the quote, and email you about the quote if it's better.
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Sorting things over the weekend
Your M65 will be on its way over the weekend.
Cheers
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 19:47:14
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Regarding brass plates / weights, I'll have them in on 3/20 or so, and they'll be offered to original GB participants first, then at retail for the remaining units.
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:25:04
Reminder that the deadline for da guide is next week.
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Regarding brass plates / weights, I'll have them in on 3/20 or so, and they'll be offered to original GB participants first, then at retail for the remaining units.
Clarification:
These plates are for those who wanted other colors, and requested additional plates be produced during the GB.
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If you ordered on site, you're good to go, no worries.
Post by: TheMissingPiece on Thu, 08 February 2018, 21:28:12
Reminder that the deadline for da guide is next week.
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Regarding brass plates / weights, I'll have them in on 3/20 or so, and they'll be offered to original GB participants first, then at retail for the remaining units.
Clarification:
These plates are for those who wanted other colors, and requested additional plates be produced during the GB.
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If you ordered on site, you're good to go, no worries.
Do you know if the plate design has changed at all? Last I heard it wasn't optimized for split space.
Post by: zaerst on Thu, 08 February 2018, 22:19:35
Post by: swangful on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:10:29
Also when can we pick up? :D
Post by: codedisorg on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:28:40
Post by: swangful on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:30:05
It's been so long I don't remember -- was the kit supposed to come with cherry screw-in stabs? Mine just arrived with only case screws.
Not sure if it still stands but I was reading off of this
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2339046#msg2339046
Post by: codedisorg on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:40:17
It's been so long I don't remember -- was the kit supposed to come with cherry screw-in stabs? Mine just arrived with only case screws.
Not sure if it still stands but I was reading off of this
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.msg2339046#msg2339046
Ah, yup. It looks the GB kits were supposed to come with stabs. Another email to support I suppose.
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:52:51
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Post by: swangful on Fri, 09 February 2018, 15:27:15
Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Will we get stabs for people that ordered full kits from the extras?
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 09 February 2018, 16:55:23
Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Actually there is one very big issue with the plate, but that isn't related to the format of the file. It's that the left shift cutout is improperly sized for ISO build (with the split left shift).
I'll need to get a custom one cut at some point when I have time to request a quote from the local sheet metal fab company.
This issue will not affect anyone who is building this board with ANSI layout
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 17:05:47
Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Will we get stabs for people that ordered full kits from the extras?
Unfortunately no.
Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Actually there is one very big issue with the plate, but that isn't related to the format of the file. It's that the left shift cutout is improperly sized for ISO build (with the split left shift).
I'll need to get a custom one cut at some point when I have time to request a quote from the local sheet metal fab company.
This issue will not affect anyone who is building this board with ANSI layout
Can you email me? I have one built with ISO and split left shift.
Bottom row is 1.5,1.5,7,1,1,1,1,1,1 just in case you're wondering.
(https://i.imgur.com/524AaZk.jpg)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 09 February 2018, 17:19:26
Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Will we get stabs for people that ordered full kits from the extras?
Unfortunately no.Plate format hasn't changed. I haven't heard any issues with it at all actually.
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Email support@keyclack.com about your stabs if it was missing from your GB order
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Unfortunately, no discounts will be available
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If you've emailed about local pick up, I'll respond to it later today
Cheers have a good day everyone
Actually there is one very big issue with the plate, but that isn't related to the format of the file. It's that the left shift cutout is improperly sized for ISO build (with the split left shift).
I'll need to get a custom one cut at some point when I have time to request a quote from the local sheet metal fab company.
This issue will not affect anyone who is building this board with ANSI layout
Can you email me? I have one built with ISO and split left shift.
Bottom row is 1.5,1.5,7,1,1,1,1,1,1 just in case you're wondering.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/524AaZk.jpg)
Hey Joseph I was gonna ask you about this on Discord a long time ago but you haven't been online for ages and then I forgot lol
I'm actually away on hokiday until after CNY, seeing my family. I'll shoot you an email with some pictures once I'm back
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 09 February 2018, 18:54:12
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 10 February 2018, 12:26:49
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 February 2018, 13:42:31
http://www.lfkeyboards.com/smk65.html
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I did some very very minimal sanding on the top edge of the PCB where the two posts inside the case made contact (the ones that come down to meet the bottom for screws). I might have removed 1-2mm but no more.
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The connections is micro USB, but it fits and I have no trouble plugging in my usb cable.
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I'm just not 100% sure I like the switches in this case. I adore the sound and feel of these switches in my Siig minitoch, but they are not quite the same in this case. They sound higher pitched and lack depth in comparison. I'll have to sit on it few a weeks or so to decide.
A note about the PCB. The owner of lfkeyboards has been a swell dude and very responsive to my emails. He forgot to add the Piezo speaker on my board and is sending me a new board to fix the issue. That's pretty nice customer service! The current revision of this PCB has issues with the first 3 underglow leds as you can see here.
[attachimg=5]
The new one he's working on for me will fix the issue by running jumper wires to make them work. He plans to fix this in a new revision soon.
Also, since I've only tested the PCB with tweezers (shorting), I have no idea how well it will hold up or how easy it is to program. But it looks top notch to me and it runs QMK.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/lfkeyboards/smk65
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 February 2018, 13:43:00
Is there anyone with a "space grey" top and a space gray plate that can confirm that the grey tones does not match? i am not sure if i have received a silver top :rolleyes:
My post below you is a space gray top with a space gray plate (first photo)
Post by: swangful on Sat, 10 February 2018, 17:50:07
Post by: na7thana on Sun, 11 February 2018, 16:19:36
Were emails sent out about local pick up? I didn't get anything :O
Jchan didn't send emails out for people wanting to do local, you had to contact him yourself :)
Just picked mine up yesterday and say it was definitely worth the money :))
Post by: jchan94 on Sun, 11 February 2018, 18:14:33
Were emails sent out about local pick up? I didn't get anything :O
I'll be sending an email out for local pick ups. Hopefully we can work out the times! Cheers.
Currently packing everyone else's order up, and we should have it all done today.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 12 February 2018, 21:11:10
1. Local Pickup. (2 packages)
2. Those who opt'd for Black Feet ; as those will ship on 2-15/16 as they arrive then (10 packages)
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Cheers.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 13 February 2018, 21:24:01
All shipments that haven't gone out, will be out tomorrow.
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I will be adding plates to the inventory on Thursday as we had a few lying around.
cheers
Post by: energyd on Wed, 14 February 2018, 09:42:25
Posted this to r/mk, but figured I may as well post here as well. Running into some issues with my board...
Just recently built up my M65-A and unfortunately having some problems. Whenever I press Backspace, the \ | key also registers (the reverse is also true - when I press \ |, backspace registers).
This happens for a few other keys in the same vicinity as well: R shift and up arrow and with ] and \ |.
Luckily, I was able to take everything apart rather easily as I'm currently using hot swap sockets in my M65. I'm pretty certain these sockets are not the cause of the issue as I've used these sockets in my Minivan and Roadkit and have 0 problems. I used extremely little solder as well (just enough to get the sockets to stay), so I don't think that's the issue either.
Here's a picture of my PCB: https://imgur.com/a/yBZbb. It looks a little wonky cause I had to take it as a panorama to get close enough to see the soldering job.
I don't believe this is a firmware issue either. Even though it's my first time using QMK and creating my own QMK keymap, the same issue also happens when I flash the default keymap.
Any ideas? Any help is appreciated!
Hey dude, how did you fit the hot swap socket into the pcb? Could you share a pic. Have some sockets ordered from Zeal, want to get them on
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 14 February 2018, 09:45:24
By now, you should have received an email about your shipment.
All shipments that haven't gone out, will be out tomorrow.
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I will be adding plates to the inventory on Thursday as we had a few lying around.
cheers
Nice to hear it. I'm in need of a space gray plate. Any idea on what time of day you'll have inventory updated?
Post by: r4wromg on Wed, 14 February 2018, 20:09:32
Hey dude, how did you fit the hot swap socket into the pcb? Could you share a pic. Have some sockets ordered from Zeal, want to get them on
I didn't buy my sockets from Zeal, but I'd assume they're pretty similar. I just placed the sockets on the switches, then placed the switches into the PCB. From there I added a tiny bit of solder to each socket to keep it in place. You can check out some pics here: https://imgur.com/a/nVCi5
Hope this helps!
Post by: energyd on Wed, 14 February 2018, 20:43:12
Hey dude, how did you fit the hot swap socket into the pcb? Could you share a pic. Have some sockets ordered from Zeal, want to get them on
I didn't buy my sockets from Zeal, but I'd assume they're pretty similar. I just placed the sockets on the switches, then placed the switches into the PCB. From there I added a tiny bit of solder to each socket to keep it in place. You can check out some pics here: https://imgur.com/a/nVCi5
Hope this helps!
Thanks man! that's really what I'm looking for.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 15 February 2018, 00:52:42
Hey dude, how did you fit the hot swap socket into the pcb? Could you share a pic. Have some sockets ordered from Zeal, want to get them on
I didn't buy my sockets from Zeal, but I'd assume they're pretty similar. I just placed the sockets on the switches, then placed the switches into the PCB. From there I added a tiny bit of solder to each socket to keep it in place. You can check out some pics here: https://imgur.com/a/nVCi5 (https://imgur.com/a/nVCi5)
Hope this helps!
Thanks man! that's really what I'm looking for.
You'll wanna install the holtite Sockets Zeal (and others) sell differently though.
Holtite Sockets are press-fit, so you'll wanna press them in the contact hole first until you feel it "click" in, then they should stay put. (only need to put a tiny bit of solder on those that don't stay in well in case some holes are bigger)
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 February 2018, 17:07:52
Post by: swangful on Thu, 15 February 2018, 17:22:56
Anyone manage to snag a plate today? I've been refreshing the page for about 8 hours now to no avail...
I havn't seen any activity D:
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 16 February 2018, 02:23:48
Anyone manage to snag a plate today? I've been refreshing the page for about 8 hours now to no avail...
sorry, due to cny, i haven't been in the office the past 3 days. i thought i'd finish my day at around 8pm and I could do the count and update it then, but i just finished it right now.
hopefully will have time tomorrow to get to it
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 16 February 2018, 03:01:38
i'll be emailing ya tomorrrow.
unsure how to link the video so it shows up here, but the link is below:
https://giant.gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon.webm
goodnight ~
Post by: wongie on Fri, 16 February 2018, 07:02:22
Also, the winner of the tutorial contest is kustom3, for his super creative animation.
i'll be emailing ya tomorrrow.
unsure how to link the video so it shows up here, but the link is below:
https://giant.gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon.webm
goodnight ~
The competition was practically over the moment he posted his video. Thoroughly deserved.
Post by: HorrorStorm on Fri, 16 February 2018, 08:53:07
Also, the winner of the tutorial contest is kustom3, for his super creative animation.
i'll be emailing ya tomorrrow.
unsure how to link the video so it shows up here, but the link is below:
https://giant.gfycat.com/HonestEasyBaboon.webm
goodnight ~
Great video, but I guess the contest was a "Build Log" contest and not a "Tutorial" contest. Even though it's a great video, it's not a "tutorial". You couldn't give this video to someone to show how to correctly build & program an m65a.
Maybe I'm being pedantic on what's considered a tutorial. I would just feel bad for anyone who actually made a honest-to-goodness step-by-step guide.
Post by: TelFiRE on Fri, 16 February 2018, 13:31:56
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 16 February 2018, 15:00:27
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:53:27
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Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 16 February 2018, 17:45:28
(https://i.imgur.com/EafX0hf.jpg)
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Post by: swangful on Fri, 16 February 2018, 19:14:25
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/saJ6hTb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EafX0hf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bKtXCKX.jpg)
Powdercoated white? Looks good :O
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 16 February 2018, 19:14:53
CerakoteShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/saJ6hTb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EafX0hf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bKtXCKX.jpg)
Powdercoated white? Looks good :O
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 16 February 2018, 19:19:29
CerakoteShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/saJ6hTb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EafX0hf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bKtXCKX.jpg)
Powdercoated white? Looks good :O
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very very nice.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Fri, 16 February 2018, 19:22:34
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 16 February 2018, 20:22:54
Y'all chill regardless of what it was it was the most creative and well put together entry imo. Grats kustom
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Totally agree, obviously took a **** ton of time and effort too. Can't help but think some people on this site actively seek out unimportant things to get wound up over.
Post by: HorrorStorm on Fri, 16 February 2018, 20:33:24
Y'all chill regardless of what it was it was the most creative and well put together entry imo. Grats kustom
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Totally agree, obviously took a **** ton of time and effort too. Can't help but think some people on this site actively seek out unimportant things to get wound up over.
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 16 February 2018, 20:54:04
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
Agreed, not saying it didn't time or effort (although I do think it would have been improved by removing the pop culture gifs/memes), it just wasn't a tutorial, which I was hoping to see come out of the contest.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 16 February 2018, 20:58:06
Y'all chill regardless of what it was it was the most creative and well put together entry imo. Grats kustom
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Totally agree, obviously took a **** ton of time and effort too. Can't help but think some people on this site actively seek out unimportant things to get wound up over.
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
Nah, your comment was totally respectful to be fair. I dunno I guess it's difficult to assess as someone having the existing knowledge but I think a first-timer buying this would at least have some previous knowledge/interest in keyboards and their parts. Otherwise why would they be buying it? I think it does show all the steps of putting an M65-A together but I get where you guys are coming from, the focus wasn't on the tutorial aspect. I guess my way of looking at it is that it does show you how to put an M65-A together specifically and is still quite easy to follow in that respect. Definitely wouldn't suffice on it's own for a total beginner but for sombody who knows a bit, how to solder etc I think it would be OK.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 16 February 2018, 21:02:41
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
Agreed, not saying it didn't time or effort (although I do think it would have been improved by removing the pop culture gifs/memes), it just wasn't a tutorial, which I was hoping to see come out of the contest.
That's fair enough man, I can understand that you think a more informative step by step type guide would have been better. I just think that there are so many of those out there but I appreciate that's not really the point at all haha =S. Yeh I'm personally not much of a fan of memes etc either, but a lot of people are I suppose!
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 16 February 2018, 21:26:52
Nah dude you werent out of line at all. I was just saying in my opinion it was a great entry and we all have our own opinions.Y'all chill regardless of what it was it was the most creative and well put together entry imo. Grats kustom
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Totally agree, obviously took a **** ton of time and effort too. Can't help but think some people on this site actively seek out unimportant things to get wound up over.
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
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Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 17 February 2018, 00:21:00
I apologize if I came off as rude or unappreciative. I or anyone I know didn't enter the contest so I have no skin in the game. The video was very well done, no one is arguing that. I was just making the comment that if someone who didn't know how to assemble keyboards wanted a tutorial, that video wouldn't suffice. Personally this is my first time building and programming a keyboard from scratch so a tutorial would have been useful for me. I'm technical and a programmer and been around in the mech space for awhile so I think I can make do, but for anyone less knowledgeable would need to look elsewhere.
Agreed, not saying it didn't time or effort (although I do think it would have been improved by removing the pop culture gifs/memes), it just wasn't a tutorial, which I was hoping to see come out of the contest.
Is there anything unique or obscure about putting together the M65-A? If not, there are several tutorials about putting keyboard together on youtube and just on the internet- many of them are made for specific keyboards, but the steps are the same. Step-by-Step specific to the keyboard is of course better, but not necessary, even for beginners. I was a beginner less than a year ago, and looked up the different steps to get my board done.
What came out of the tutorial was what jchan wanted, apparently. I would like to see the other entries just out of curiosity.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 17 February 2018, 15:14:20
Post by: naut on Sat, 17 February 2018, 15:21:09
Prob dumb question, but where is this reset button at??Ps2abrgb: None. Unplug usb, hold left control, and plug in usb. Or short ‘reset’and ‘ground’ pins on pcb.
Qmk: Button close to the MCU.
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 17 February 2018, 15:25:27
Prob dumb question, but where is this reset button at??Ps2abrgb: None. Unplug usb, hold left control, and plug in usb. Or short ‘reset’and ‘ground’ pins on pcb.
Qmk: Button close to the MCU.
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As I feared, I have to disassemble my board. Thank you :thumb:
Post by: Marutks on Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:10:14
I paid for black base and other components when extra sale was running. I got email from jchan saying they dont have black base.
I hope it won't take a year to get a refund. Did you get your refund? I wonder how long it takes......
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:49:08
I paid for black base and other components when extra sale was running. I got email from jchan saying they dont have black base.
I hope it won't take a year to get a refund. Did you get your refund? I wonder how long it takes......
It hasn't historically taken long to get a refund. What did he say in the notification?
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 19 February 2018, 10:26:23
Prob dumb question, but where is this reset button at??Ps2abrgb: None. Unplug usb, hold left control, and plug in usb. Or short ‘reset’and ‘ground’ pins on pcb.
Qmk: Button close to the MCU.
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As I feared, I have to disassemble my board. Thank you :thumb:
It is not too bad, just have to remove a couple screws to remove the base.
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 19 February 2018, 20:13:28
I paid for black base and other components when extra sale was running. I got email from jchan saying they dont have black base.
I hope it won't take a year to get a refund. Did you get your refund? I wonder how long it takes......
Hi,
Sorry I haven't gotten back to emails in the past few days as I've taken a few days in observance of CNY.
I'll get back to the emails tomorrow.
Cheers, have a good day
Post by: HorrorStorm on Tue, 20 February 2018, 16:28:53
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 21 February 2018, 18:10:19
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 21 February 2018, 22:25:45
Post by: swangful on Thu, 22 February 2018, 00:02:27
I had a question about the bottom leds. I bought the QMK pcb. How do you change the colors/modes?
You're in for a treat. Start reading here: https://docs.qmk.fm/
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 22 February 2018, 00:12:51
I had a question about the bottom leds. I bought the QMK pcb. How do you change the colors/modes?
You're in for a treat. Start reading here: https://docs.qmk.fm/
:eek:
Post by: swangful on Thu, 22 February 2018, 02:17:14
I had a question about the bottom leds. I bought the QMK pcb. How do you change the colors/modes?
You're in for a treat. Start reading here: https://docs.qmk.fm/
:eek:
You can find a few people's layouts here as well for reference: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/v32u4/keymaps
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:22:17
Post by: HorrorStorm on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:28:26
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:45:59
Does anyone have a problem where a few of the right most LEDs become white after an hour or so? It's fixed if I unplug/replug the keyboard or toggle the leds.
Which pcb have you got?
Post by: HorrorStorm on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:47:00
Does anyone have a problem where a few of the right most LEDs become white after an hour or so? It's fixed if I unplug/replug the keyboard or toggle the leds.
Which pcb have you got?
QMK, I'm also just using the plain/static color.
Post by: HorrorStorm on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:19:57
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2fkm185lh780kzx/IMG_20180227_151538.jpg?dl=0
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:32:25
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 February 2018, 18:07:19
Maybe it just doesnt want to be pink anymore. Maybe you need to give it a pep talk or something. Maybe buy it a coffee?
Everybody knows pink doesn't like coffee REECE!
Post by: HorrorStorm on Wed, 28 February 2018, 13:35:42
Post by: swangful on Wed, 28 February 2018, 13:44:15
Jokes aside, it occurs with any color. Has no one experienced this issue then? I'm not using any fancy keymap. Just a second layer with RGB controls.
Does this happen with any RGB mode? Night rider, christmas, rainbow etc..? Or only static?
Post by: HorrorStorm on Wed, 28 February 2018, 13:57:33
Jokes aside, it occurs with any color. Has no one experienced this issue then? I'm not using any fancy keymap. Just a second layer with RGB controls.
Does this happen with any RGB mode? Night rider, christmas, rainbow etc..? Or only static?
It seems to be only when it's static/plain. It works for awhile and then the LEDS "forget" their color. I'll keep breathing mode on and see what happens. But for now I'll just say it only happens on plain.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 28 February 2018, 14:03:08
Jokes aside, it occurs with any color. Has no one experienced this issue then? I'm not using any fancy keymap. Just a second layer with RGB controls.
Does this happen with any RGB mode? Night rider, christmas, rainbow etc..? Or only static?
It seems to be only when it's static/plain. It works for awhile and then the LEDS "forget" their color. I'll keep breathing mode on and see what happens. But for now I'll just say it only happens on plain.
Weird...if it happened in all modes, id attribute it to the PCB a lot more confidently. Have you tried reflashing to default and putting your config back on after?
Post by: HorrorStorm on Wed, 28 February 2018, 15:52:23
Jokes aside, it occurs with any color. Has no one experienced this issue then? I'm not using any fancy keymap. Just a second layer with RGB controls.
Does this happen with any RGB mode? Night rider, christmas, rainbow etc..? Or only static?
It seems to be only when it's static/plain. It works for awhile and then the LEDS "forget" their color. I'll keep breathing mode on and see what happens. But for now I'll just say it only happens on plain.
Weird...if it happened in all modes, id attribute it to the PCB a lot more confidently. Have you tried reflashing to default and putting your config back on after?
Just tried your suggestion, using the default map the issue still happens after 20 minutes or so. I thought maybe it was a power issue but it continues to happen even with a powered usb hub. I don't know if the latest version of QMK has a bug but I can only assume it's a PCB issue unless Jchan has some ideas.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:23:45
Jokes aside, it occurs with any color. Has no one experienced this issue then? I'm not using any fancy keymap. Just a second layer with RGB controls.
Does this happen with any RGB mode? Night rider, christmas, rainbow etc..? Or only static?
It seems to be only when it's static/plain. It works for awhile and then the LEDS "forget" their color. I'll keep breathing mode on and see what happens. But for now I'll just say it only happens on plain.
Weird...if it happened in all modes, id attribute it to the PCB a lot more confidently. Have you tried reflashing to default and putting your config back on after?
Just tried your suggestion, using the default map the issue still happens after 20 minutes or so. I thought maybe it was a power issue but it continues to happen even with a powered usb hub. I don't know if the latest version of QMK has a bug but I can only assume it's a PCB issue unless Jchan has some ideas.
Are you resetting EEPROM? Or just flashing putting default back on?
If doing the latter, try resetting EEPROM and start with a fresh slate. if not...it would seem like a PCB issue :( Weird that it stayed fine for 20 minutes though.
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 04 March 2018, 10:54:13
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 10:57:13
Am I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here!
It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:02:05
It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:05:20
It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:12:33
It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
Post by: theknown on Mon, 05 March 2018, 09:53:02
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:16:15
Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
Post by: dohmain on Mon, 05 March 2018, 14:24:26
You can find my mechmarket post on reddit, same username.
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:59:25
Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.
Hummm.. Still waiting for a response.. And the worrying part is that I got few emails from DHL asking me to regularise tax already! So I hope he read his emails before shipping the keyboard :(
Post by: embew on Mon, 05 March 2018, 18:17:37
Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
I also reached out to jchan regarding a potential and recently placed order with no response received. Having 2-way communication with your customers and setting expectations goes a long way.
Post by: Waah on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:52:28
This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
I also reached out to jchan regarding a potential and recently placed order with no response received. Having 2-way communication with your customers and setting expectations goes a long way.
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:48:03
Post by: Harms on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:01:56
Does any one got a response regarding cosmos m65a ? Still waiting..
Ordered a Lunar Red Nylon Base kit.
Still waiting on a shipping notification sometime this week hopefully :).
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 March 2018, 20:56:56
Does any one got a response regarding cosmos m65a ? Still waiting..
Ordered a Lunar Red Nylon Base kit.
Still waiting on a shipping notification sometime this week hopefully :).
I thought they were shipping out 3/5/18
Post by: Harms on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:04:16
Yes that was the supposed ship date. However, mine has not shipped yet.Does any one got a response regarding cosmos m65a ? Still waiting..
Ordered a Lunar Red Nylon Base kit.
Still waiting on a shipping notification sometime this week hopefully :).
I thought they were shipping out 3/5/18
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:18:26
Yes that was the supposed ship date. However, mine has not shipped yet.Does any one got a response regarding cosmos m65a ? Still waiting..
Ordered a Lunar Red Nylon Base kit.
Still waiting on a shipping notification sometime this week hopefully :).
I thought they were shipping out 3/5/18
I sold my A stock extra so I could buy a purple one. But I sat on the fence too long and now the purple with purple base is gone.
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:55:23
Post by: pancaeks on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:01:01
Post by: Harms on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:56:16
Yes that was the supposed ship date. However, mine has not shipped yet.Does any one got a response regarding cosmos m65a ? Still waiting..
Ordered a Lunar Red Nylon Base kit.
Still waiting on a shipping notification sometime this week hopefully :).
I thought they were shipping out 3/5/18
I sold my A stock extra so I could buy a purple one. But I sat on the fence too long and now the purple with purple base is gone.
Damn sorry to hear that, but hey there is one Nylon base in purple if you do not mind that option and a red base.
It is nice to see that they are shipping out. :)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:44:14
He will start to ship tomorrow for the cosmos m65a. Cannot wait to have it in my hands, build it with some 78g r9 zealios and put my Budapest SA on it :D
Post by: typischt on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:55:06
Got some answers by email from Jchan!Yes, also got some answeres from Jchan regarding PCB change to QMK.
He will start to ship tomorrow for the cosmos m65a. Cannot wait to have it in my hands, build it with some 78g r9 zealios and put my Budapest SA on it :D
I plan to build it with 67g r9 zealios, really stoked about it! :)I actually also wanted to try the 78g, but I think I‘m just going with the 67g anyways since they feel great and I already have them.
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:03:40
Got some answers by email from Jchan!Yes, also got some answeres from Jchan regarding PCB change to QMK.
He will start to ship tomorrow for the cosmos m65a. Cannot wait to have it in my hands, build it with some 78g r9 zealios and put my Budapest SA on it :D
I plan to build it with 67g r9 zealios, really stoked about it! :)I actually also wanted to try the 78g, but I think I‘m just going with the 67g anyways since they feel great and I already have them.
I upgrade to qmk too. And i got both 67 and 78 on hands, need to build to compare them.
Post by: typischt on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:13:14
Ah really nice! Let me know, when you know which one you like better!Got some answers by email from Jchan!Yes, also got some answeres from Jchan regarding PCB change to QMK.
He will start to ship tomorrow for the cosmos m65a. Cannot wait to have it in my hands, build it with some 78g r9 zealios and put my Budapest SA on it :D
I plan to build it with 67g r9 zealios, really stoked about it! :)I actually also wanted to try the 78g, but I think I‘m just going with the 67g anyways since they feel great and I already have them.
I upgrade to qmk too. And i got both 67 and 78 on hands, need to build to compare them.
Post by: trikoi00 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:04:39
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Post by: foxlive on Fri, 09 March 2018, 03:20:46
Ah really nice! Let me know, when you know which one you like better!
I’ll tell you! I should received my EXENT next week also! So I will have two boards to build :D ! I will likely put some 67g on exent, 78g on m65a (or vice versa) :D
Post by: Harms on Sat, 10 March 2018, 01:54:34
78g Zeals eh. That is a nice choice. :)Ah really nice! Let me know, when you know which one you like better!
I’ll tell you! I should received my EXENT next week also! So I will have two boards to build :D ! I will likely put some 67g on exent, 78g on m65a (or vice versa) :D
I'm putting the new Hako Clears on mine. :D
Post by: Waah on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:44:52
Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
I also reached out to jchan regarding a potential and recently placed order with no response received. Having 2-way communication with your customers and setting expectations goes a long way.
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
Post by: Harms on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:20:53
You got ignored?Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Yeah I emailed him asking to change some of my orders, haven't replied back to me yet. Give him some time, he's a 1-man operation and he was probably resting over the weekend.It is CNY/Lantern Festival, but it's fair to say he stopped caring about the community months ago...MoreAm I the only one having trouble reaching jchan on both is email (jchan@keyclack.com and support@keyclack.com) ?
I join on keyclack website for a lilac m65a with nylon base. I asked by email for QMK pcb instead of ps2avrgb as told on website, but no response. I am quite afraid it will ship before taking into account the request.
Also.. it been few months that I try joining him for an issue with my Budapest SA keyset also bought on keyclack.com, I have recieved two 7u spacebar instead of one 6.25u and one 7u... at more than 300 bucks the keyset I expect some better customer service !
Start to get really annoyed by the non professionalism of some people here! [\more]
Com’on ! CNY was on the 16th! You conduct a buisness, you take people money (and not small amount), you have to be pro about this!
Ah I'm wrong, CNY was 16th - 26th, then Lantern Festival was 27th - 2nd, so nothing is going on :'( Agreed though.
Still, my first email (still unrespond) for issue with Budapest SA was on the 16/01/2018!!
I also reached out to jchan regarding a potential and recently placed order with no response received. Having 2-way communication with your customers and setting expectations goes a long way.
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
That sucks :(. My Cosmos order was shipped. So he is defiantly here.
Maybe shoot him another e-mail?.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:23:39
This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
He's probably avoiding everyone to do with MC Rebirth, I remember seeing someone else get replies on any project apart from MCRB. :rolleyes:
Post by: Waah on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:15:27
You got ignored?I'll give it a couple days then head to reddit. Looks like someone made a post 5 days ago about far less significant issues and got a response.
That sucks :(. My Cosmos order was shipped. So he is defiantly here.
Maybe shoot him another e-mail?.
Well what's the situation with that set? At worst, it's a "I don't have the product and can't give you a refund either". If it is completely out of his control, so be it.This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
He's probably avoiding everyone to do with MC Rebirth, I remember seeing someone else get replies on any project apart from MCRB. :rolleyes:
These boards on the other hand, were in his possession. Doesn't help that I was promised a tracking number a month back.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:22:02
Well what's the situation with that set? At worst, it's a "I don't have the product and can't give you a refund either". If it is completely out of his control, so be it.This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
He's probably avoiding everyone to do with MC Rebirth, I remember seeing someone else get replies on any project apart from MCRB. :rolleyes:
These boards on the other hand, were in his possession. Doesn't help that I was promised a tracking number a month back.
From the lack of information on that topic, it's believable the worst scenario is what's happening.
Seems odd that he doesn't want to wrap this up, considering they are on hand as you say...
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:05:27
Post by: trikoi00 on Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:11:06
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 16 March 2018, 13:55:33
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/v32u4/keymaps/dead_encryption
So far everything works great, RGB (in-switch and underglow) controls on 2nd layer, FN key just to the right on my UP arrow, etc.
Uploading my keymap.c in case it's an obvious fix
Edit: switch wasn't fully soldered lol.
Post by: trikoi00 on Sun, 18 March 2018, 01:17:01
My top row suddenly stop working. Only Esc, Backspace and Home work. Were working fine after assembly. Then swap back to it after some time, not working now. Reset to original layout, still cant work.
Took a leap of faith. Reapply Solder to my Controller Chip joint. It work now. Puzzled and Happy at the same time.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 18 March 2018, 09:52:52
My top row suddenly stop working. Only Esc, Backspace and Home work. Were working fine after assembly. Then swap back to it after some time, not working now. Reset to original layout, still cant work.
Took a leap of faith. Reapply Solder to my Controller Chip joint. It work now. Puzzled and Happy at the same time.
Any pics of where you soldered? Just in case others have similar issues
Post by: trikoi00 on Sun, 18 March 2018, 10:12:09
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 19 March 2018, 15:36:10
Edit: looking at the pattern, it seem that the 3rd row trigger the entiere column, like pressin "g" trigger the collumun with 6 - t - g - b which are alligned. Is it comming from hardware or software? I saw it can be due to some shorting but I did not see where it can happen, check all my solder, there are clean. I am getting sad :(
Post by: trikoi00 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:09:07
I have a strange issue with QMK pcb, it flash, work fine except row 3 which type random characters when pressed, such as "6tgb " for a pressed "g" or "8ujm " for a pressed "j". Do you have any idea of what is going on?
Edit: looking at the pattern, it seem that the 3rd row trigger the entiere column, like pressin "g" trigger the collumun with 6 - t - g - b which are alligned. Is it comming from hardware or software? I saw it can be due to some shorting but I did not see where it can happen, check all my solder, there are clean. I am getting sad
Post by: trikoi00 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:15:01
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:16:29
Is your screw in stab causing the short ?
Hum I have screw in stab, need to check !
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:18:55
Is your screw in stab causing the short ?
I ****ing love you mate, it was the screw in stab in enter, shorting an led slot....
Post by: trikoi00 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 19:02:17
Haha. Glad it solved. Cheers Mate !Is your screw in stab causing the short ?
I ****ing love you mate, it was the screw in stab in enter, shorting an led slot....
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Post by: foxlive on Mon, 19 March 2018, 19:08:31
I put a bl_toggle on my main layer, but it appears that when backlight is on, my second layer has some strange behavior, like the reset is not working anymore, the up left down right put on wasd is selecting text at the same time. Any idea on this?
Post by: trikoi00 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:57:52
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 04:04:40
Did you map the wrong FN key ? FN LT(layer toggle) vs FN ? Or U accidentally toggle to Layer 2 by tapping Esc many times. Cos default keycode of Esc is Layer T 2.
My keymap.c is like this:
Code: [Select]
#include "v32u4.h"
const uint16_t PROGMEM keymaps[][MATRIX_ROWS][MATRIX_COLS] = {
[0] = KEYMAP(
KC_GESC, KC_1, KC_2, KC_3, KC_4, KC_5, KC_6, KC_7, KC_8, KC_9, KC_0, KC_MINS, KC_EQL, KC_BSLS, KC_GRV, KC_INS,
KC_TAB, KC_Q, KC_W, KC_E, KC_R, KC_T, KC_Y, KC_U, KC_I, KC_O, KC_P, KC_LBRC, KC_RBRC, KC_BSPC, KC_DEL,
MO(1), KC_A, KC_S, KC_D, KC_F, KC_G, KC_H, KC_J, KC_K, KC_L, KC_SCLN, KC_QUOT, KC_ENT, KC_PGUP,
KC_LSFT, KC_NUBS, KC_Z, KC_X, KC_C, KC_V, KC_B, KC_N, KC_M, KC_COMM, KC_DOT, KC_SLSH, KC_RSFT, KC_UP, KC_PGDN,
KC_LCTL, KC_LGUI, KC_LALT, KC_SPACE, KC_SPACE, KC_SPACE, KC_RALT, KC_RGUI, KC_RCTL, KC_LEFT, KC_DOWN, KC_RGHT
),
[1] = KEYMAP(
KC_GRV, KC_F1, KC_F2, KC_F3, KC_F4, KC_F5, KC_F6, KC_F7, KC_F8, KC_F9, KC_F10, KC_F11, KC_F12, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_HOME, KC_END, KC_DEL, KC_TRNS,
MO(1), KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_LEFT, KC_DOWN, KC_UP, KC_RIGHT, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_VOLU,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_PGDN, KC_PGUP, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_PGUP, KC_VOLD,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, MO(2), KC_HOME, KC_PGDN, KC_END
),
[2] = KEYMAP(
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RESET,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RGB_TOG, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
MO(1), RGB_SAD, RGB_SAI, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RGB_HUD, RGB_HUI, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RGB_VAD, RGB_VAI, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RGB_MOD, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, MO(2), KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS
),
};
Very strange behaviour, I don't get why the arrow KC_UP/LEFT/DOWN/RGHT over move the cursor but select text at the same time when put in layer 1 and work properly on layer 0.... which mean that the layer 1 on caps lock trigger at the same time a "shift" .
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Edit: look like the strange behaviour is coming from caps lock... Putting caps lock on **** on layer 1 change the behaviour. Now if I just press the caps lock key which is map to MO(1) it trigger caps lock.. But if I press and quickly press like the "a" key which is map to left arrow on layer 1 , it works.. But I really don't get why it activate caps lock for just a simple press, for this keymap.c it is suppose to activate it only if I press caps lock THEN lshift.
Here is my new keymap.c:
Code: [Select]
#include "v32u4.h"
const uint16_t PROGMEM keymaps[][MATRIX_ROWS][MATRIX_COLS] = {
[0] = KEYMAP(
KC_GESC, KC_1, KC_2, KC_3, KC_4, KC_5, KC_6, KC_7, KC_8, KC_9, KC_0, KC_MINS, KC_EQL, KC_BSPC, KC_DEL, RGB_TOG,
KC_TAB, KC_Q, KC_W, KC_E, KC_R, KC_T, KC_Y, KC_U, KC_I, KC_O, KC_P, KC_LBRC, KC_RBRC, KC_BSLS, KC_PGUP,
MO(1), KC_A, KC_S, KC_D, KC_F, KC_G, KC_H, KC_J, KC_K, KC_L, KC_SCLN, KC_QUOT, KC_ENT, KC_PGDN,
KC_LSFT, KC_NUBS, KC_Z, KC_X, KC_C, KC_V, KC_B, KC_N, KC_M, KC_COMM, KC_DOT, KC_SLSH, KC_RSFT, KC_UP, BL_TOGG,
KC_LCTL, KC_LALT, KC_LGUI, KC_SPACE, KC_SPACE, KC_SPACE, KC_RGUI, KC_RALT, KC_RCTL, KC_LEFT, KC_DOWN, KC_RGHT
),
[1] = KEYMAP(
KC_GRAVE, KC_F1, KC_F2, KC_F3, KC_F4, KC_F5, KC_F6, KC_F7, KC_F8, KC_F9, KC_F10, KC_F11, KC_F12, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_UP, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_LEFT, KC_DOWN, KC_RGHT, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_CAPS, KC_TRNS, RGB_HUD, RGB_HUI, RGB_SAD, RGB_SAI, RGB_VAD, RGB_VAI, BL_DEC, BL_INC, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
RESET, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS
),
};
Does anyone have face this issue? Or anyone is using the caps lock key as a fn key... When I programmed my gh60 satan I did not face these issue :( !
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 07:26:30
Any other screw in stabilizers on that side that need taping?
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 07:33:38
Not sure why that keymap would activate caps lock on press. There’s no way that should happen. Perhaps that’s not the key map loaded. Maybe it’s failng to compile or flash, or maybe there is an error elsewhere.
Any other screw in stabilizers on that side that need taping?
Not comming from keymap indeed, it is AGAIN a short, but this time I remove all the screw from screw in stab, did not help. Indeed, the caps lock physical key ALSO trigger the lshift key.... ><
Post by: trikoi00 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 08:53:09
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 09:15:15
hmm, u can try again with just 1 layer on top of base layer. See if the problem persist.
It persist. I really think it is a short somewhere, but can’t find where :( ! This is super anoying that the caps lock key trigger the lshift key with it, but the lshift key is okay, everything else is okay. Someone face this?
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 09:47:54
hmm, u can try again with just 1 layer on top of base layer. See if the problem persist.
It persist. I really think it is a short somewhere, but can’t find where :( ! This is super anoying that the caps lock key trigger the lshift key with it, but the lshift key is okay, everything else is okay. Someone face this?
Maybe upload a photo of the PCB showing the shift and caps lock area?
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 09:58:32
hmm, u can try again with just 1 layer on top of base layer. See if the problem persist.
It persist. I really think it is a short somewhere, but can’t find where :( ! This is super anoying that the caps lock key trigger the lshift key with it, but the lshift key is okay, everything else is okay. Someone face this?
Maybe upload a photo of the PCB showing the shift and caps lock area?
Here it is : https://imgur.com/gallery/aCuTP
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:13:56
EDIT - sorry, that's the resistor I suppose
Post by: rioc on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:15:51
hmm, u can try again with just 1 layer on top of base layer. See if the problem persist.
It persist. I really think it is a short somewhere, but can’t find where :( ! This is super anoying that the caps lock key trigger the lshift key with it, but the lshift key is okay, everything else is okay. Someone face this?
Maybe upload a photo of the PCB showing the shift and caps lock area?
Here it is : https://imgur.com/gallery/aCuTP (https://imgur.com/gallery/aCuTP)
your No.6 Switch isn't soldered in ;)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:26:39
I don't think it's the issue, but is that left control LED (+) leg soldered to the diode on the right? O.o
EDIT - sorry, that's the resistor I suppose
Indeed the leg is solder to the resistor.. led was not working, but by pressing the pcb on my table I realized it lighted up, then realized it work when the led leg touch the resistor, so solder it in as a fix to this « dead track »
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:29:38
hmm, u can try again with just 1 layer on top of base layer. See if the problem persist.
It persist. I really think it is a short somewhere, but can’t find where :( ! This is super anoying that the caps lock key trigger the lshift key with it, but the lshift key is okay, everything else is okay. Someone face this?
Maybe upload a photo of the PCB showing the shift and caps lock area?
Here it is : https://imgur.com/gallery/aCuTP (https://imgur.com/gallery/aCuTP)
your No.6 Switch isn't soldered in ;)
Indeed, and it works, poor 6 I forgot it. But sill it do not solve this caps lock/ shift issue
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:30:57
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:38:49
You said you removed those stabilizer screws and it didn't help, right? I'm not seeing any way the connection between the two switches is bridge. Jchan would have a much better idea since he would understand how the traces run. I guess your best bet is to contact support with these photos. He can either help you figure it out or send a replacement. Hopefully not a replacement, since that is a lot of hard work gone to waste :(
Yes, removing the screws did not help. Since I had some issues with the other stab it was my first idea, hopping for an easy fix. But it did not turn well :/
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:39:26
You said you removed those stabilizer screws and it didn't help, right? I'm not seeing any way the connection between the two switches is bridge. Jchan would have a much better idea since he would understand how the traces run. I guess your best bet is to contact support with these photos. He can either help you figure it out or send a replacement. Hopefully not a replacement, since that is a lot of hard work gone to waste :(
Yes, removing the screws did not help. Since I had some issues with the other stab it was my first idea, hopping for an easy fix. But it did not turn well :/
Hopefully it's just a bad diode on the capslock or something. Those are cheap and pretty easy to fix
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:56:14
You said you removed those stabilizer screws and it didn't help, right? I'm not seeing any way the connection between the two switches is bridge. Jchan would have a much better idea since he would understand how the traces run. I guess your best bet is to contact support with these photos. He can either help you figure it out or send a replacement. Hopefully not a replacement, since that is a lot of hard work gone to waste :(
Yes, removing the screws did not help. Since I had some issues with the other stab it was my first idea, hopping for an easy fix. But it did not turn well :/
Hopefully it's just a bad diode on the capslock or something. Those are cheap and pretty easy to fix
Stupid question, how do you test a diode ?
Got my **** together and my multimeter out and checked diode around caps lock, they all seems ok
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 11:20:15
When you press shift it works correctly and only triggers shift, correct?
Also, this happens with the default key mapping loaded?
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 11:34:52
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:16:28
So, when you press caps lock in a program like switch hitter, it shows that you've pressed both caps lock and shift, right?
When you press shift it works correctly and only triggers shift, correct?
Also, this happens with the default key mapping loaded?
I did not checked with any program, I just remaped caps lock and shift as like "a" and "b" and pressing caps lock type "ab" and pressing shift only "b", it is coherent with the behaviour observed with fn key.
Only "software" fix I found is to put a "KC_NO" in the second layer on the lshift key, so it trigger nothing xD.
And no I don't think it is related to backlight, have to check again, yesterday having the backlight on prevent me to press reset which was the ctrl ket on 2nd layer (so pressing caps lock + lctrl).
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 21 March 2018, 04:51:28
Fingers crossed!
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 22 March 2018, 14:41:03
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 22 March 2018, 14:44:19
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 22 March 2018, 17:41:23
I seem to be having a serious problem with static discharge and my m65-a. Any tips on what I can do/solder to help it ground better when I touch the aluminum case? I try to discharge before I use it, but sometimes I just don't think/am in the middle of something else
Nope, I have a problem with it too. I have to run a humidifier
Post by: p_blaze on Thu, 22 March 2018, 20:47:29
I seem to be having a serious problem with static discharge and my m65-a. Any tips on what I can do/solder to help it ground better when I touch the aluminum case? I try to discharge before I use it, but sometimes I just don't think/am in the middle of something else
I know a lot of people make a bridge from the ground on USB cables to their alu cases to prevent static
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 22 March 2018, 21:10:08
I seem to be having a serious problem with static discharge and my m65-a. Any tips on what I can do/solder to help it ground better when I touch the aluminum case? I try to discharge before I use it, but sometimes I just don't think/am in the middle of something else
I know a lot of people make a bridge from the ground on USB cables to their alu cases to prevent static
I've read the above solution before, but I never gained a clear understanding of the solution. Are you saying that we should use the mesh wire layer of the cable (underneath the foil and above the inner wires) and somehow bring it outside of the cable and tape it to the case? I'd be interested in seeing this done but it sounds messy and difficult to plug and unplug (tape and un-tape, i guess). Or do you actually bridge off of the black ground wire and have that sticking out somehow? I've made a few of my own usb cables, so I understand a bit, but this seems wonky.
Anyone have an elegant example of this they want to share pics of?
Also, wouldn't this still shock you? It would travel down the USB cable to your computer and not the PCB, but still shock you, no?
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 23 March 2018, 05:02:31
I ask Jchan about it, he told me he will investigate and come back to me in the next few days as he never faced this issue.
Fingers crossed!
There was a reversed resistor.. I now it has no polarity, jchan told me to reverse it, I did it anyway but I did not solve the issue and my caps lock still trigger the lshift.. This is anoying :(
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 23 March 2018, 09:47:42
I seem to be having a serious problem with static discharge and my m65-a. Any tips on what I can do/solder to help it ground better when I touch the aluminum case? I try to discharge before I use it, but sometimes I just don't think/am in the middle of something else
I know a lot of people make a bridge from the ground on USB cables to their alu cases to prevent static
I've read the above solution before, but I never gained a clear understanding of the solution. Are you saying that we should use the mesh wire layer of the cable (underneath the foil and above the inner wires) and somehow bring it outside of the cable and tape it to the case? I'd be interested in seeing this done but it sounds messy and difficult to plug and unplug (tape and un-tape, i guess). Or do you actually bridge off of the black ground wire and have that sticking out somehow? I've made a few of my own usb cables, so I understand a bit, but this seems wonky.
Anyone have an elegant example of this they want to share pics of?
Also, wouldn't this still shock you? It would travel down the USB cable to your computer and not the PCB, but still shock you, no?
I'm also a bit confused/curious about this process
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 March 2018, 10:02:21
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 23 March 2018, 10:17:08
Is the bottom of the M65 with static issues a nylon one? That, coupled with a desk mat could be problematic
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Mine is nylon, yes. And I have a desk mat... but it has rubber feet. Not sure how that all works out.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 23 March 2018, 10:26:32
I seem to be having a serious problem with static discharge and my m65-a. Any tips on what I can do/solder to help it ground better when I touch the aluminum case? I try to discharge before I use it, but sometimes I just don't think/am in the middle of something else
I know a lot of people make a bridge from the ground on USB cables to their alu cases to prevent static
I've read the above solution before, but I never gained a clear understanding of the solution. Are you saying that we should use the mesh wire layer of the cable (underneath the foil and above the inner wires) and somehow bring it outside of the cable and tape it to the case? I'd be interested in seeing this done but it sounds messy and difficult to plug and unplug (tape and un-tape, i guess). Or do you actually bridge off of the black ground wire and have that sticking out somehow? I've made a few of my own usb cables, so I understand a bit, but this seems wonky.
Anyone have an elegant example of this they want to share pics of?
Also, wouldn't this still shock you? It would travel down the USB cable to your computer and not the PCB, but still shock you, no?
I'm also a bit confused/curious about this process
Okay, I think I might get it now. So I think what you do is solder a wire to the usb connector (the one on the board). Then, you run that wire out a bit and put a terminal connector on it like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BVXW9E/ref=s9_acsd_topr_hd_bw_bKl0UF_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=TNGCS4E6CXMSW82ZNGQA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=a7ec853b-88f3-5c27-9047-93e96e7f18af&pf_rd_i=306730011
Not that exact one, b/c i think that one is huge for this job, but to give you an idea.
For the M65-a, you could put that o-ring connector between a screw and the back of the plate (probably the one to the right of the usb connector would be easiest).
I believe I'll give it a shot!
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 March 2018, 10:33:26
Post by: Waah on Sun, 25 March 2018, 20:30:39
Just posting so people don't think I was left hanging. Got the board earlier last week. Unfortunately the plate in space gray was no longer available. Extra plate (in silver) and PCB was provided for the delays and whatnot, but that doesn't matter much. Going to move on now.Well what's the situation with that set? At worst, it's a "I don't have the product and can't give you a refund either". If it is completely out of his control, so be it.This. Decided to check this thread as I haven't gotten a response either for an M65-A (not extras, original GB order).Still nothing here. Anybody have any insight as to why jchan is entirely ignoring some people?
No ill will here - all my other orders (minus MC Rebirth, still unsure as to what is going on with that one) were fulfilled without issues. I know what he's been through and at this point waiting a little bit more doesn't bother me. Just concerned that the GB is marked complete, yet my order was not fulfilled. Hopefully nobody else is in the same situation.
He's probably avoiding everyone to do with MC Rebirth, I remember seeing someone else get replies on any project apart from MCRB. :rolleyes:
These boards on the other hand, were in his possession. Doesn't help that I was promised a tracking number a month back.
From the lack of information on that topic, it's believable the worst scenario is what's happening.
Seems odd that he doesn't want to wrap this up, considering they are on hand as you say...
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 26 March 2018, 01:22:46
My keymap worked perfectly for a while, and then one day for some reason my LCtrl started registering as Caps Lock.
I changed KC_LCTRL to KC_CAPS for that key and now it works properly as LCtrl for some reason. Also, my LAlt key stopped working until I changed LALT to LGUI in my keymap. My win keys have stopped working entirely.
So to summarize:
My LCtrl is mapped to KC_CAPS, which produces a LCtrl keypress.
My LAlt is mapped to KC_LGUI, which produces a LAlt keypress.
My LGui is mapped to KC_LALT, which doesn't do anything.
My RGui is mapped to KC_RGUI, which doesn't do anything.
I have no clue what's going on. My board works, at least, but I'd really like to get my QMK keymap associated with the proper keys (and also get my Winkeys working again).
I don't see any shorts or messed up components. All keys work properly when I map them to something else besides what's listed above.
Anyone have any idea?
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 26 March 2018, 02:23:59
I am also having a QMK related caps lock issue.
My keymap worked perfectly for a while, and then one day for some reason my LCtrl started registering as Caps Lock.
I changed KC_LCTRL to KC_CAPS for that key and now it works properly as LCtrl for some reason. Also, my LAlt key stopped working until I changed LALT to LGUI in my keymap. My win keys have stopped working entirely.
So to summarize:
My LCtrl is mapped to KC_CAPS, which produces a LCtrl keypress.
My LAlt is mapped to KC_LGUI, which produces a LAlt keypress.
My LGui is mapped to KC_LALT, which doesn't do anything.
My RGui is mapped to KC_RGUI, which doesn't do anything.
I have no clue what's going on. My board works, at least, but I'd really like to get my QMK keymap associated with the proper keys (and also get my Winkeys working again).
I don't see any shorts or messed up components. All keys work properly when I map them to something else besides what's listed above.
Anyone have any idea?
Super strange issue! Different issue from mine, since if I map to other key my caps lock and lshift the caps lock triggering the lshift is still present.
Did you try reset the board, and make clean then flash again the default layout with only one layout?
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 26 March 2018, 14:39:19
I am also having a QMK related caps lock issue.
My keymap worked perfectly for a while, and then one day for some reason my LCtrl started registering as Caps Lock.
I changed KC_LCTRL to KC_CAPS for that key and now it works properly as LCtrl for some reason. Also, my LAlt key stopped working until I changed LALT to LGUI in my keymap. My win keys have stopped working entirely.
So to summarize:
My LCtrl is mapped to KC_CAPS, which produces a LCtrl keypress.
My LAlt is mapped to KC_LGUI, which produces a LAlt keypress.
My LGui is mapped to KC_LALT, which doesn't do anything.
My RGui is mapped to KC_RGUI, which doesn't do anything.
I have no clue what's going on. My board works, at least, but I'd really like to get my QMK keymap associated with the proper keys (and also get my Winkeys working again).
I don't see any shorts or messed up components. All keys work properly when I map them to something else besides what's listed above.
Anyone have any idea?
Super strange issue! Different issue from mine, since if I map to other key my caps lock and lshift the caps lock triggering the lshift is still present.
Did you try reset the board, and make clean then flash again the default layout with only one layout?
Yup, I have the same issue with the default key map also.
Post by: dohmain on Mon, 26 March 2018, 23:49:22
I am also having a QMK related caps lock issue.
My keymap worked perfectly for a while, and then one day for some reason my LCtrl started registering as Caps Lock.
I changed KC_LCTRL to KC_CAPS for that key and now it works properly as LCtrl for some reason. Also, my LAlt key stopped working until I changed LALT to LGUI in my keymap. My win keys have stopped working entirely.
So to summarize:
My LCtrl is mapped to KC_CAPS, which produces a LCtrl keypress.
My LAlt is mapped to KC_LGUI, which produces a LAlt keypress.
My LGui is mapped to KC_LALT, which doesn't do anything.
My RGui is mapped to KC_RGUI, which doesn't do anything.
I have no clue what's going on. My board works, at least, but I'd really like to get my QMK keymap associated with the proper keys (and also get my Winkeys working again).
I don't see any shorts or messed up components. All keys work properly when I map them to something else besides what's listed above.
Anyone have any idea?
Super strange issue! Different issue from mine, since if I map to other key my caps lock and lshift the caps lock triggering the lshift is still present.
Did you try reset the board, and make clean then flash again the default layout with only one layout?
Yup, I have the same issue with the default key map also.
Use QMK Toolbox, Reset EEPROM then flash your hex.
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 27 March 2018, 02:57:45
You should contact jchan too for your issues (support@keyclack.com)
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 27 March 2018, 07:35:20
Hopefully the replacement won’t have the same issues
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:08:30
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:25:09
I would be mare than happy to desolder it for you for free; however, we are not very close if you are indeed in France.
Hopefully the replacement won’t have the same issues
This is very nice, but I think I will keep it this way still the software fix is quite ok and keep a spare PCB under the hand just in case X)
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:16:26
Out of curiousity, all of you having issues have which PCB? I'm wondering if the issues listed are exlusive to one or the other.
Jchan would know better than any of us, but from what I've read in this thread it seems that the "suddenly lost a working layout after weeks of use" is the QMK boards. Both the Ps2avr and QMK boards have issues with underglow leds. Another thing they both have in common is people discharging static shock into the board through the case. I'm going to guess they could be related.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:23:29
I paid nearly two weeks ago, and shipping was confirmed on the 19th via e-mail. DHL then asked me for an import fee to my country, which I paid immediately. However, looking at the tracking its been over a week and still 'Shipment not yet picked up by DHL' is the status. DHL have confirmed they haven't been given a time slot by the vendor as yet for collection
I've sent Jchan a few emails, support tickets and Discord messages which have gone unanswered, even when he has been answering friends that were looking to buy, but no response. And I've heard of at least one other order that has been paid for post mine, and shipped already in the meantime as well. (this is for an in stock item btw). Anyone any ideas?
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:05:04
Anyone else have problems with shipping from Keyclack?
I paid nearly two weeks ago, and shipping was confirmed on the 19th via e-mail. DHL then asked me for an import fee to my country, which I paid immediately. However, looking at the tracking its been over a week and still 'Shipment not yet picked up by DHL' is the status. DHL have confirmed they haven't been given a time slot by the vendor as yet for collection
I've sent Jchan a few emails, support tickets and Discord messages which have gone unanswered, even when he has been answering friends that were looking to buy, but no response. And I've heard of at least one other order that has been paid for post mine, and shipped already in the meantime as well. (this is for an in stock item btw). Anyone any ideas?
... unfortunately I did face this issue, TWICE: I order some Budapest SA keyset like 3 months ago and I also got a tracking stucked to « not picked up yet ».. told jchan, he told me he will investigate and boom magic tracking moved (with LOOOOTS of update, so it is not as id DHL tracking was bad).
I order the m65a cosmos, same **** again... have to send 2 emails before it magically move!
Long story short: I received both the Budapest SA and M65-A, so I cannot say Jchan don’t deliver, but I just feel he create shippment very early (which generate tracking), then actually give the package to DHL waaay later as he told (1/2 weeks after telling me it is shipped). Not very good business ethics but.. it seems that some people make it an habit in this community :/
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 27 March 2018, 21:07:00
Anyone else have problems with shipping from Keyclack?The vast majority of buyers, I feel.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 27 March 2018, 21:12:24
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 28 March 2018, 06:46:37
if I press fn + w for up key, it do not work
if I press fn + a, s ,d for left down right arrow, it work but KEEP pressing the key when I stop pressing the asd but while I am holding fn...
if I press fn + z ,x ,c ,v or any other key that I map to RGB setting it does not respond
if I press fn + lctrl it does not go into DFU
> IF inswitch LED is of, all the fn function detailed above are working properly. This is super strange..
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 00:42:05
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 00:49:18
Got an answer from Jchan, from him it is a dead track (I also had a dead track for one LED that I solved by direclty solder the led leg to the resistor). He is sending me a new pcb. I don’t know if I will be motivated enough to unsolder everything :(.Lucky, when i contacted support@keyclack the best he could do was sell me a PCB for half off. New one Arrived DOA requested a refund waiting to hear back. I have two PCB rgb issues now and a third dead. Will try my luck with a winkeyless pcb in the eventual future when i gets paid.
You should contact jchan too for your issues (support@keyclack.com)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 30 March 2018, 04:52:28
Worst case scenario, I think we can fit this kind of pcb inside: https://sentraq.com/products/65-rgb-underglow-pcb
Or maybe I am wrong :/ ...
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 30 March 2018, 09:16:27
I am waiting for my replacement jc65 pcb... I hope it will be okay and fully functional !!!
Worst case scenario, I think we can fit this kind of pcb inside: https://sentraq.com/products/65-rgb-underglow-pcb
Or maybe I am wrong :/ ...
I believe you can but the switches have north facing leds that will not work perfectly with cherry profile keycaps. The 65% board from winkeyless should work
http://winkeyless.kr/product/22mini-b-x2-pcb/
You may have to file a very small area down but it’s easy to do
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:36:21
I am waiting for my replacement jc65 pcb... I hope it will be okay and fully functional !!!
Worst case scenario, I think we can fit this kind of pcb inside: https://sentraq.com/products/65-rgb-underglow-pcb
Or maybe I am wrong :/ ...
I believe you can but the switches have north facing leds that will not work perfectly with cherry profile keycaps. The 65% board from winkeyless should work
http://winkeyless.kr/product/22mini-b-x2-pcb/
You may have to file a very small area down but it’s easy to do
Yeah i was thinking Winkeyless as well but with them doing all the soldering of the diodes and stuff comes out to 67 with out shipping. Will bet one but will have to wait a bit.
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:38:38
I am waiting for my replacement jc65 pcb... I hope it will be okay and fully functional !!!
Worst case scenario, I think we can fit this kind of pcb inside: https://sentraq.com/products/65-rgb-underglow-pcb
Or maybe I am wrong :/ ...
I forgot about Sentraq might have to pick that up, i know they some ordering and shipping issues lately, hopefully all that is resolved when i order lol.
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 30 March 2018, 18:11:30
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 23:27:35
I will wait to receive my replacement jc65, test it fully before soldering, finger crossed it will be fine. It is quite frustrating to have this beautiful lilac m65a with Budapest SA on it, already built but not fully functional :(
Lol i have the exact same setup
With under glow not working!!!!!!!!!!! because FML. Gave up on the jc65 will just go with the sentraq
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 31 March 2018, 09:39:28
I will wait to receive my replacement jc65, test it fully before soldering, finger crossed it will be fine. It is quite frustrating to have this beautiful lilac m65a with Budapest SA on it, already built but not fully functional :(
Lol i have the exact same setup
With under glow not working!!!!!!!!!!! because FML. Gave up on the jc65 will just go with the sentraq
Good luck with sentraq, told me if it works. I just finish desoldering all my m65a (the moment you regret having solder all in switch led!). Now I am waiting for the new pcb to arrive and will rebuild, hopefully it will be okay!
Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 01 April 2018, 00:52:51
I will wait to receive my replacement jc65, test it fully before soldering, finger crossed it will be fine. It is quite frustrating to have this beautiful lilac m65a with Budapest SA on it, already built but not fully functional :(
Lol i have the exact same setup
With under glow not working!!!!!!!!!!! because FML. Gave up on the jc65 will just go with the sentraq
Thanks will do
Good luck with sentraq, told me if it works. I just finish desoldering all my m65a (the moment you regret having solder all in switch led!). Now I am waiting for the new pcb to arrive and will rebuild, hopefully it will be okay!
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:23:56
Did I miss anything? :(
Post by: Dominathan on Mon, 02 April 2018, 17:10:33
I am waiting for my replacement jc65 pcb... I hope it will be okay and fully functional !!!
Worst case scenario, I think we can fit this kind of pcb inside: https://sentraq.com/products/65-rgb-underglow-pcb
Or maybe I am wrong :/ ...
You have to trim a little for the screw holes at the top, but otherwise it's great!
Post by: swangful on Mon, 02 April 2018, 23:18:53
I am also having a QMK related caps lock issue.
My keymap worked perfectly for a while, and then one day for some reason my LCtrl started registering as Caps Lock.
I changed KC_LCTRL to KC_CAPS for that key and now it works properly as LCtrl for some reason. Also, my LAlt key stopped working until I changed LALT to LGUI in my keymap. My win keys have stopped working entirely.
So to summarize:
My LCtrl is mapped to KC_CAPS, which produces a LCtrl keypress.
My LAlt is mapped to KC_LGUI, which produces a LAlt keypress.
My LGui is mapped to KC_LALT, which doesn't do anything.
My RGui is mapped to KC_RGUI, which doesn't do anything.
I have no clue what's going on. My board works, at least, but I'd really like to get my QMK keymap associated with the proper keys (and also get my Winkeys working again).
I don't see any shorts or messed up components. All keys work properly when I map them to something else besides what's listed above.
Anyone have any idea?
weird this just started happening to me today as well. did you ever figure out a fix?
EDIT: Just reset EEPROM and reflashed, all is well now.
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 03 April 2018, 08:00:26
I just solder two in switch led (caps lock + escape) to check, it works. I will wait for the new 100 led from AliExpress to arrive since the previous one do not really look nice after desoldering. It will let me some time to check the board to be 100% sure it is okay ^^’
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Fri, 06 April 2018, 09:31:09
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 06 April 2018, 10:14:37
The underglow LEDs on my ps2avrgb pcb stopped working (LEDs 10-16)... anyone know what the issue might be? I double checked its not a screw shorting it, I've double checked bootmapper and I also tried different usb ports with different cables... no luck. The weird thing is it briefly started to work again yesterday after playing around with stuff in bootmapper and plugging/unpluging the usb, but then it stopped working again and I don' t know what I did to temporarily "fix it".
Sounds like broken continuity to me. If a solder joint was just barely connected it could work on and off again with luck. Maybe that’s why it worked for a while when you were messing with it.
I would reflow the solder in led 9 and 10 to see if that fixed it. If that doesn’t work I would email jchan.
I suppose led 10 could need replacement.
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Fri, 06 April 2018, 10:21:58
Omg... ty so much your suggestion worked. I just reflowed LED 10 and everything lights up again. How does a solder joint just degrade like that?The underglow LEDs on my ps2avrgb pcb stopped working (LEDs 10-16)... anyone know what the issue might be? I double checked its not a screw shorting it, I've double checked bootmapper and I also tried different usb ports with different cables... no luck. The weird thing is it briefly started to work again yesterday after playing around with stuff in bootmapper and plugging/unpluging the usb, but then it stopped working again and I don' t know what I did to temporarily "fix it".
Sounds like broken continuity to me. If a solder joint was just barely connected it could work on and off again with luck. Maybe that’s why it worked for a while when you were messing with it.
I would reflow the solder in led 9 and 10 to see if that fixed it. If that doesn’t work I would email jchan.
I suppose led 10 could need replacement.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:08:59
Post by: dwarflemur on Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:35:00
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 06 April 2018, 12:36:30
Mine has stopped working completely, pretty sure I shocked it with ESD and now when I plug it in it seems to continually reset. I'm going to try replacing the MCU, but I can't believe they seem to have skimped on the like 40 cents it would have costed to add ESD protection.... Maybe I'll try to kludge some on myself :P
ps2avr or QMK board?
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 06 April 2018, 13:41:16
Weren’t we supposed to get a freebie gift in March for participating in this group buy?Lol, if how the GB has gone was anything to go by, I wouldn't hold out for any freebies anytime soon...
Did I miss anything? :(
Post by: dwarflemur on Sat, 07 April 2018, 02:05:47
Mine has stopped working completely, pretty sure I shocked it with ESD and now when I plug it in it seems to continually reset. I'm going to try replacing the MCU, but I can't believe they seem to have skimped on the like 40 cents it would have costed to add ESD protection.... Maybe I'll try to kludge some on myself :P
ps2avr or QMK board?
ps2avr
Post by: ExcitingWriting on Sat, 07 April 2018, 02:34:45
Neither RGBLIGHT_ENABLE = no
no
BACKLIGHT ENABLE = no
do anything to help.
After flashing with the default from git, it has a perpetual BRIGHT green backlight on and i just can't end this freaking light. Please.... help?
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:54:12
Can anyone help me kill the godforsaken backlight on the QMK JC65?
Neither RGBLIGHT_ENABLE = no
no
BACKLIGHT ENABLE = no
do anything to help.
After flashing with the default from git, it has a perpetual BRIGHT green backlight on and i just can't end this freaking light. Please.... help?
I've seen other posts about a green light. Email jchan. It's a common issue apparently
Post by: typischt on Sat, 07 April 2018, 18:22:12
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 07 April 2018, 19:52:30
After reading some comments about ESD problems: I have an unbuilt cosmos M65 with QMK PCB which I'll build soon. Is there a way to prevent problems with ESD? The PCB might be damaged because of this, right?
I’ve sat with mine unbuilt for 2 months now because I’m worried about it. I had switches in it just to see what I wanted to use (unsoldered). This was back when it as very cold and my heater ran a lot, but I discharged on the case several times causing a reboot. Many times I was just sitting there and it built up (probably from my feet on carpet)
I ran a humidifier to help but I’m honestly hoping there is a fix before I build it.
I tried to bring it up in the m60-a forum to see is Rama might take interest to investigate but it didn’t go anywhere.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 07 April 2018, 21:05:42
I don’t think Rama would know much about the pcb. Especially since the pcb was called the JC65. Jchan would be the one to ask but, unfortunately, we all know how tough it can be to get an answer like that from him.After reading some comments about ESD problems: I have an unbuilt cosmos M65 with QMK PCB which I'll build soon. Is there a way to prevent problems with ESD? The PCB might be damaged because of this, right?
I’ve sat with mine unbuilt for 2 months now because I’m worried about it. I had switches in it just to see what I wanted to use (unsoldered). This was back when it as very cold and my heater ran a lot, but I discharged on the case several times causing a reboot. Many times I was just sitting there and it built up (probably from my feet on carpet)
I ran a humidifier to help but I’m honestly hoping there is a fix before I build it.
I tried to bring it up in the m60-a forum to see is Rama might take interest to investigate but it didn’t go anywhere.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 07 April 2018, 21:54:22
I don’t think Rama would know much about the pcb. Especially since the pcb was called the JC65. Jchan would be the one to ask but, unfortunately, we all know how tough it can be to get an answer like that from him.After reading some comments about ESD problems: I have an unbuilt cosmos M65 with QMK PCB which I'll build soon. Is there a way to prevent problems with ESD? The PCB might be damaged because of this, right?
I’ve sat with mine unbuilt for 2 months now because I’m worried about it. I had switches in it just to see what I wanted to use (unsoldered). This was back when it as very cold and my heater ran a lot, but I discharged on the case several times causing a reboot. Many times I was just sitting there and it built up (probably from my feet on carpet)
I ran a humidifier to help but I’m honestly hoping there is a fix before I build it.
I tried to bring it up in the m60-a forum to see is Rama might take interest to investigate but it didn’t go anywhere.
I understand. I just thought it might peak his interest to know there are issues with it. Just trying to plant a seed :)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 11 April 2018, 03:24:12
I don’t think Rama would know much about the pcb. Especially since the pcb was called the JC65. Jchan would be the one to ask but, unfortunately, we all know how tough it can be to get an answer like that from him.After reading some comments about ESD problems: I have an unbuilt cosmos M65 with QMK PCB which I'll build soon. Is there a way to prevent problems with ESD? The PCB might be damaged because of this, right?
I’ve sat with mine unbuilt for 2 months now because I’m worried about it. I had switches in it just to see what I wanted to use (unsoldered). This was back when it as very cold and my heater ran a lot, but I discharged on the case several times causing a reboot. Many times I was just sitting there and it built up (probably from my feet on carpet)
I ran a humidifier to help but I’m honestly hoping there is a fix before I build it.
I tried to bring it up in the m60-a forum to see is Rama might take interest to investigate but it didn’t go anywhere.
I understand. I just thought it might peak his interest to know there are issues with it. Just trying to plant a seed :)
*pique
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 11 April 2018, 15:29:41
After reading some comments about ESD problems: I have an unbuilt cosmos M65 with QMK PCB which I'll build soon. Is there a way to prevent problems with ESD? The PCB might be damaged because of this, right?
I’ve sat with mine unbuilt for 2 months now because I’m worried about it. I had switches in it just to see what I wanted to use (unsoldered). This was back when it as very cold and my heater ran a lot, but I discharged on the case several times causing a reboot. Many times I was just sitting there and it built up (probably from my feet on carpet)
I ran a humidifier to help but I’m honestly hoping there is a fix before I build it.
I tried to bring it up in the m60-a forum to see is Rama might take interest to investigate but it didn’t go anywhere.
Some people have put some electrical tape under and around the screws (for the stabilizers). I believe zambumon put some on his (reference - https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/85b2f0/inside_the_m65/), but you can't see a photo of it.
Personally, I have carpet at home, but have not had issues regarding discharge. Usually cotton socks (from my experience) cause static build up.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 12 April 2018, 09:52:31
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 13 April 2018, 12:05:36
bottom row of leds do not seem to go off.
Post by: Valaris on Fri, 13 April 2018, 12:38:34
anyone have any issues with the jc65? i cant seem to turn BL off.
bottom row of leds do not seem to go off.
You're not the first to report that problem.
Is there a safe way for me to remove the underglow led's? I don't use them and they seem to be more trouble than anything else.
Post by: obviouslygene on Fri, 13 April 2018, 13:33:49
You're not the first to report that problem.
Is there a safe way for me to remove the underglow led's? I don't use them and they seem to be more trouble than anything else.
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dang. thats bad i dont use backlighting as well.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 13 April 2018, 15:58:57
anyone have any issues with the jc65? i cant seem to turn BL off.
bottom row of leds do not seem to go off.
You're not the first to report that problem.
Is there a safe way for me to remove the underglow led's? I don't use them and they seem to be more trouble than anything else.
You could just desolder them. Or email keyclack support for a replacement.
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 15 April 2018, 23:42:52
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 18 April 2018, 16:31:48
Since kbdlounge site is down, is there another source for reprogramming software for the JC65 PCB? Also anyone remember off-hand what the key combination is to enable in-switch LEDs?
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
You can also use QMK now for both the QMK native board and the ps2avrgb board.
Use https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT to make your keymaps
Download the required Drivers at https://github.com/qmk/qmk_driver_installer/releases
Download QMK Toolbox at: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases
and flash the hex file made from QMK Configurator.
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 18 April 2018, 17:08:34
Since kbdlounge site is down, is there another source for reprogramming software for the JC65 PCB? Also anyone remember off-hand what the key combination is to enable in-switch LEDs?
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
You can also use QMK now for both the QMK native board and the ps2avrgb board.
Use https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT to make your keymaps
Download the required Drivers at https://github.com/qmk/qmk_driver_installer/releases
Download QMK Toolbox at: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases
and flash the hex file made from QMK Configurator.
Oh that's interesting, thanks a lot for the tip.
Post by: sirholden on Fri, 20 April 2018, 04:28:45
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 20 April 2018, 09:02:41
Since kbdlounge site is down, is there another source for reprogramming software for the JC65 PCB? Also anyone remember off-hand what the key combination is to enable in-switch LEDs?
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
You can also use QMK now for both the QMK native board and the ps2avrgb board.
Use https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT to make your keymaps
Download the required Drivers at https://github.com/qmk/qmk_driver_installer/releases
Download QMK Toolbox at: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases
and flash the hex file made from QMK Configurator.
Follow up question about the QMK configurator options for available functions, as it does say "These docs are for the QMK version of the PCB"
https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT
Are all those functions going to be compatible with the PS2AVRGB PCB? Specifically the various RGB LED modes, like hue, saturation, etc.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 20 April 2018, 09:11:55
If you have a PS2AVRGB PCB, then you want to be looking at Bootmapper Client.Since kbdlounge site is down, is there another source for reprogramming software for the JC65 PCB? Also anyone remember off-hand what the key combination is to enable in-switch LEDs?
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
You can also use QMK now for both the QMK native board and the ps2avrgb board.
Use https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT to make your keymaps
Download the required Drivers at https://github.com/qmk/qmk_driver_installer/releases
Download QMK Toolbox at: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases
and flash the hex file made from QMK Configurator.
Follow up question about the QMK configurator options for available functions, as it does say "These docs are for the QMK version of the PCB"
https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT
Are all those functions going to be compatible with the PS2AVRGB PCB? Specifically the various RGB LED modes, like hue, saturation, etc.
This is a helpful guide: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/1392/programming-kbd-keyboards-via-bootmapper-client
It's applicable to all Bootmapper client boards, really.
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Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 20 April 2018, 09:13:18
Post by: naut on Fri, 20 April 2018, 12:33:57
Since kbdlounge site is down, is there another source for reprogramming software for the JC65 PCB? Also anyone remember off-hand what the key combination is to enable in-switch LEDs?
edit: problem solved. Programming software is here: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 "LED mode" function controls in-switch LEDs.
You can also use QMK now for both the QMK native board and the ps2avrgb board.
Use https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT to make your keymaps
Download the required Drivers at https://github.com/qmk/qmk_driver_installer/releases
Download QMK Toolbox at: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases
and flash the hex file made from QMK Configurator.
Follow up question about the QMK configurator options for available functions, as it does say "These docs are for the QMK version of the PCB"
https://config.qmk.fm/#/jc65/v32u4/LAYOUT
Are all those functions going to be compatible with the PS2AVRGB PCB? Specifically the various RGB LED modes, like hue, saturation, etc.
Yes rgb led modes, hue, saturation all work on the QMK port for the ps2avrgb pcb. The only thing i couldn't get working was the brightness levels of the led backlighting. Only on/off for now.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/v32a/keymaps/naut (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/jc65/v32a/keymaps/naut). My layer 4 has a working example.
Post by: sroop on Fri, 27 April 2018, 16:06:05
Post by: dubious on Mon, 30 April 2018, 18:37:47
Is there any fix out there for a led that is stuck on green? I found a few similar posts but I was unable to find an update with a resolution...
reflowing the solder usually fixes that, or you might have to replace the LED
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 20:01:56
Is there any fix out there for a led that is stuck on green? I found a few similar posts but I was unable to find an update with a resolution...
If one is stuck, usually reflowing it will help (4 points around led). If you can't resolve it, then we can ship you a replacement. Just email support@keyclack.com with your order information, and we'll get you sorted.
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For extra plates / weights, unfortunately, we weren't able to produce the PC plates due to some supply issue. But, we do have the silver / gold / black plates+weights.
As promised, for those who participated in R1, you can receive these to swap or add on to your current build.
Here is the form you can fill out: https://goo.gl/forms/pfnQGoQvgB9letof1 ; for the parts, we have them in currently, but they will most likely ship 5/8 or 5/9.
I'll also be sending 1 email for this to R1 participants after this as well.
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If you were not a part of R1, we will have them up for sale afterwards, if we have extras from the allotted bunch.
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 13 May 2018, 23:49:18
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95603
Post by: Bambino on Sun, 13 May 2018, 23:54:44
Ever since I moved to my new place, ESD has been a problem with my keyboard--identical set up, same keyboard I've been using for a few years now, properly grounded. Never before in my previous apartments has it been a problem, so I don't know what's going on here--still trying to figure it out. (Previous apartment had full room carpeting where my keyboards were connected, and it was never a problem despite wearing any types of socks or having a space heater drying out air to almost zero humidity). At some point I thought a USB cable with a very chunky ferrite choke helped in the new place, so I ordered nice looking replacements with ferrite chokes, which unfortunately turned out to be quite small. With the small choke cable, I get maybe 30%-40% of ESD occurrences (again anecdotally) than with my old fancy sleeved USB cable with no choke. Going to swap to the big choke ugly gray cable again soon, as with it I had no ESD issues at all for about 3 weeks (basically the whole duration of using it). Moral of the story: if you do happen to have one of those heavy duty mini B USB cables with chunky ferrite chokes, try them out with your keyboard.I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:46:47
I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would you mind posting a pic of your fix for those experiencing the same issue? Particularly the area of the USB shield for those that want to do the same?
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:49:42
Ever since I moved to my new place, ESD has been a problem with my keyboard--identical set up, same keyboard I've been using for a few years now, properly grounded. Never before in my previous apartments has it been a problem, so I don't know what's going on here--still trying to figure it out. (Previous apartment had full room carpeting where my keyboards were connected, and it was never a problem despite wearing any types of socks or having a space heater drying out air to almost zero humidity). At some point I thought a USB cable with a very chunky ferrite choke helped in the new place, so I ordered nice looking replacements with ferrite chokes, which unfortunately turned out to be quite small. With the small choke cable, I get maybe 30%-40% of ESD occurrences (again anecdotally) than with my old fancy sleeved USB cable with no choke. Going to swap to the big choke ugly gray cable again soon, as with it I had no ESD issues at all for about 3 weeks (basically the whole duration of using it). Moral of the story: if you do happen to have one of those heavy duty mini B USB cables with chunky ferrite chokes, try them out with your keyboard.I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would also appreciate some pictures
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Post by: Bael_Zharon on Sat, 19 May 2018, 15:24:41
I just started having some issues with my M65-A (QMK pcb) this morning, but I have no idea what caused it. There's some weird behavior -- the left Windows key acted as Alt. Left alt does nothing. Capslock and Ctrl switched. Backspace and \ switched. Everything else fine. My other layers work (that don't involve the aforementioned keys), so it's not like the PCB was reset or anything.
Here's what I tried:
- Unplugged cable, plugged back in
- Different cable
- Restarted computer
- Re-flashed board
- Checked Windows keyboard language settings
I recently purchased it from /r/mm. When it arrived, the capslock was soldered for the stepped key, so I had to desolder and move it over one spot. This was about a month ago at this point, so I had been using it off and on, so something like 10ish hours of use.
The only recent change was a new Pexon cable. I received it in the mail yesterday, plugged it in, and played games for 5-6 hours. No issues, worked perfectly. I got in bed and forgot to turn off the LEDs, but was too lazy to get up, so I left them on overnight.
I emailed the guy I purchased it from and he said he hadn't experienced the issue and I also sent an email to KeyClack a few hours ago.
Anyone have any similar issues?
Thanks for your time.
Post by: swangful on Sat, 19 May 2018, 16:59:30
Hello!
I just started having some issues with my M65-A (QMK pcb) this morning, but I have no idea what caused it. There's some weird behavior -- the left Windows key acted as Alt. Left alt does nothing. Capslock and Ctrl switched. Backspace and \ switched. Everything else fine. My other layers work (that don't involve the aforementioned keys), so it's not like the PCB was reset or anything.
Here's what I tried:
- Unplugged cable, plugged back in
- Different cable
- Restarted computer
- Re-flashed board
- Checked Windows keyboard language settings
I recently purchased it from /r/mm. When it arrived, the capslock was soldered for the stepped key, so I had to desolder and move it over one spot. This was about a month ago at this point, so I had been using it off and on, so something like 10ish hours of use.
The only recent change was a new Pexon cable. I received it in the mail yesterday, plugged it in, and played games for 5-6 hours. No issues, worked perfectly. I got in bed and forgot to turn off the LEDs, but was too lazy to get up, so I left them on overnight.
I emailed the guy I purchased it from and he said he hadn't experienced the issue and I also sent an email to KeyClack a few hours ago.
Anyone have any similar issues?
Thanks for your time.
Did you try resetting EEPROM then reflash?
Post by: Bael_Zharon on Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:14:19
Did you try resetting EEPROM then reflash?
I didn't try that before, so I spent the last few hours trying to figure out how to do that. I used "flip" and tried, but it didn't work. I think you might have me on the right track though, as I found:
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/issues/2197
I haven't got dfu-programmer to work from the command line - I've been using make jc65:mykeymap:dfu to flash mine. Here's the qmk documentation on resetting EEPROM (which I couldn't get to work so used "flip").
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/quantum/tools
Post by: swangful on Sun, 20 May 2018, 23:50:54
Did you try resetting EEPROM then reflash?
I didn't try that before, so I spent the last few hours trying to figure out how to do that. I used "flip" and tried, but it didn't work. I think you might have me on the right track though, as I found:
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/issues/2197
I haven't got dfu-programmer to work from the command line - I've been using make jc65:mykeymap:dfu to flash mine. Here's the qmk documentation on resetting EEPROM (which I couldn't get to work so used "flip").
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/quantum/tools
Yeah alternatively theres a really easy way via qmk toolbox. Just connect your board and press a button on the qmk toolbox UI, flash your hex :)
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox
Post by: Bambino on Tue, 22 May 2018, 10:51:59
I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would you mind posting a pic of your fix for those experiencing the same issue? Particularly the area of the USB shield for those that want to do the same?
Ever since I moved to my new place, ESD has been a problem with my keyboard--identical set up, same keyboard I've been using for a few years now, properly grounded. Never before in my previous apartments has it been a problem, so I don't know what's going on here--still trying to figure it out. (Previous apartment had full room carpeting where my keyboards were connected, and it was never a problem despite wearing any types of socks or having a space heater drying out air to almost zero humidity). At some point I thought a USB cable with a very chunky ferrite choke helped in the new place, so I ordered nice looking replacements with ferrite chokes, which unfortunately turned out to be quite small. With the small choke cable, I get maybe 30%-40% of ESD occurrences (again anecdotally) than with my old fancy sleeved USB cable with no choke. Going to swap to the big choke ugly gray cable again soon, as with it I had no ESD issues at all for about 3 weeks (basically the whole duration of using it). Moral of the story: if you do happen to have one of those heavy duty mini B USB cables with chunky ferrite chokes, try them out with your keyboard.I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would also appreciate some pictures
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(https://i.imgur.com/SADsUMO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E4ewSbF.jpg)
The top pic shows where one end of the wire touches the USB shield, and the bottom pic shows the locations where the wire contacts the shield and the case. I used some ugly masking tape to hold them in place. It's worked perfectly so far.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:17:08
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:54:16
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 24 May 2018, 09:30:14
I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would you mind posting a pic of your fix for those experiencing the same issue? Particularly the area of the USB shield for those that want to do the same?Ever since I moved to my new place, ESD has been a problem with my keyboard--identical set up, same keyboard I've been using for a few years now, properly grounded. Never before in my previous apartments has it been a problem, so I don't know what's going on here--still trying to figure it out. (Previous apartment had full room carpeting where my keyboards were connected, and it was never a problem despite wearing any types of socks or having a space heater drying out air to almost zero humidity). At some point I thought a USB cable with a very chunky ferrite choke helped in the new place, so I ordered nice looking replacements with ferrite chokes, which unfortunately turned out to be quite small. With the small choke cable, I get maybe 30%-40% of ESD occurrences (again anecdotally) than with my old fancy sleeved USB cable with no choke. Going to swap to the big choke ugly gray cable again soon, as with it I had no ESD issues at all for about 3 weeks (basically the whole duration of using it). Moral of the story: if you do happen to have one of those heavy duty mini B USB cables with chunky ferrite chokes, try them out with your keyboard.I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would also appreciate some pictures
Sent from my mobile using TapatalkShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/SADsUMO.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E4ewSbF.jpg)
The top pic shows where one end of the wire touches the USB shield, and the bottom pic shows the locations where the wire contacts the shield and the case. I used some ugly masking tape to hold them in place. It's worked perfectly so far.
Thanks dude this is great stuff
Post by: Zanduby on Sun, 03 June 2018, 11:11:26
I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would you mind posting a pic of your fix for those experiencing the same issue? Particularly the area of the USB shield for those that want to do the same?Ever since I moved to my new place, ESD has been a problem with my keyboard--identical set up, same keyboard I've been using for a few years now, properly grounded. Never before in my previous apartments has it been a problem, so I don't know what's going on here--still trying to figure it out. (Previous apartment had full room carpeting where my keyboards were connected, and it was never a problem despite wearing any types of socks or having a space heater drying out air to almost zero humidity). At some point I thought a USB cable with a very chunky ferrite choke helped in the new place, so I ordered nice looking replacements with ferrite chokes, which unfortunately turned out to be quite small. With the small choke cable, I get maybe 30%-40% of ESD occurrences (again anecdotally) than with my old fancy sleeved USB cable with no choke. Going to swap to the big choke ugly gray cable again soon, as with it I had no ESD issues at all for about 3 weeks (basically the whole duration of using it). Moral of the story: if you do happen to have one of those heavy duty mini B USB cables with chunky ferrite chokes, try them out with your keyboard.I've drastically improved the ESD problems I was having with my M65A. My solution has been to tape a piece of jumper wire to connect the inside of the case to the metal shield surrounding the mini USB port. I used to frequently see my board go dark and have to reconnect to the PC whenever I touched it, but it has completely stopped doing that after this fix, even when I touch the board and my finger is shocked from the static. I'd recommend it to anyone having this problem.
Would also appreciate some pictures
Sent from my mobile using TapatalkShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/SADsUMO.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/E4ewSbF.jpg)
The top pic shows where one end of the wire touches the USB shield, and the bottom pic shows the locations where the wire contacts the shield and the case. I used some ugly masking tape to hold them in place. It's worked perfectly so far.
Thanks dude this is great stuff
I solved my ESD issues by getting my board cerakoted. But this is a great way to ground your board better. Good job Bambino,thanks!
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 30 June 2018, 08:08:15
I would imagine loading someone's .hex or .json and uploading back to the jc65 via bootmapper client would do right?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Edit: nvm figured it out.
Post by: Potatoes on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:10:01
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:33:55
Sorry if it's been asked, but what's the best way to clean the desk mat? lol
Warm water with a little bit of hand/dish soap and a soft cleaning brush
Post by: mittyzz on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:24:25
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 02 August 2018, 13:03:23
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 02 August 2018, 14:07:59
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LCGHYR8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 02 August 2018, 14:23:35
uxcell 2mmx4mmx0.5mm Fiber Motherboard Insulating Washers Spacer Red 100pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ARADX88/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.M1yBb7716744
Post by: obviouslygene on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:57:55
If anybody is in the need for a space grey r1 :eek:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95603
Hi Jchan, can you help me with identifying n1-3? I’ve emailed you but I didn’t get any reply.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 31 August 2018, 14:38:49
Future kits will not be "a la carte" unfortunately. Trying to condense complexity as was in the GB
5 Top Options
6 Base Options
2 Plate Options
2 PCB Options
= A lot of custom options, but takes a lot longer to manage
Sorry! But I think the options will be good.For those wondering, future retail sales will be priced lower for kits, and as we continue to bring in new parts, we're also looking to adding to the line as well.
Hey JChan,
So will the March kits be full kits and priced lower than the ~500ish we will see today?
Definitely cheaper for those kits ~I just remembered Jchan mentionning a "surprise" being sent to everyone once the GB is done. Did we ever get news on that? I'm curious now.
Those will be sent out in a month or two, as I'm still in the middle of preparing them. I think you'd be happy with them, once they are ready. So maybe post about it mid march? Should be ready by then :)
Did anything ever happen with the "surprise?"
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 20 September 2018, 14:29:45
Post by: kacase on Tue, 25 September 2018, 07:49:03
What ended up being the fix for a dead row?
Less pressure on the stab screws or reflowing the solder on the chip.
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Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 26 September 2018, 14:55:58
What ended up being the fix for a dead row?Less pressure on the stab screws or reflowing the solder on the chip.
Thank you! Reflosing the IC did the trick!
Post by: swangful on Tue, 30 October 2018, 23:35:42
Post by: romevi on Wed, 31 October 2018, 00:22:15
Post by: swangful on Thu, 01 November 2018, 20:08:09
god.
Looks like god decided to make half of my LEDs white now. I cant even turn them off haha
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:24:53
Post by: obviouslygene on Mon, 03 December 2018, 00:22:45
god.
Looks like god decided to make half of my LEDs white now. I cant even turn them off haha
I have the same issue, does anyone know how to fix this?
Post by: swangful on Thu, 20 December 2018, 17:14:41
god.
Looks like god decided to make half of my LEDs white now. I cant even turn them off haha
I have the same issue, does anyone know how to fix this?
I was told to reflow the LED closest to the faulty one. Sadly...i had no luck and one LED is now dead while the other half is white :(
No respose from jchan either on help or PCB replacement for me to buy
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 December 2018, 17:36:45
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Fri, 21 December 2018, 01:01:49
god.
Looks like god decided to make half of my LEDs white now. I cant even turn them off haha
I have the same issue, does anyone know how to fix this?
I was told to reflow the LED closest to the faulty one. Sadly...i had no luck and one LED is now dead while the other half is white :(
No respose from jchan either on help or PCB replacement for me to buy
jchan did say to me, on Instagram, in the beginning of the month that he had more pcbs coming. He seems to check emails once a week, but the slow pace of email correspondence has turned me off. I was trying to get an m65 from the parts he had listed, but now I'm not worried about it anymore since I ordered a Koyu from RAMA. The last time he dropped in on this thread was May? Don't hold your breathe.
Post by: swangful on Fri, 21 December 2018, 16:34:26
I'm not sure how you reflowed the led, but I'll give a few pointers for things I've done to help. First, you need to add some flux. You can use liquid or paste, either one. The idea is that you want to remelt all of the solder that is there and have it adhere better. If you just touch a hot iron to it, you might melt something or just pull more solder off. By adding flux, you can essentially heat the solder that is there without direct contact. The flux carries the heat for you. You really can't overdo the flux, Just clean off what is there after the job is finished. My two cents from reflowing 2 MCUs and a few Kailh hot swap sockets.
Almost got it working, added some flux and the LEDs were fixed for one second...and then the LED went bonkers and i attempted to remove it thus lifting a couple pads :(
RIP.
Anyone know of any good alternative PCBs? My QMK pcb has just been trouble since day 1 with CTRL/Capslock swapping every few weeks and now LEDs dying
Post by: Starston3 on Fri, 21 December 2018, 16:56:55
I'm not sure how you reflowed the led, but I'll give a few pointers for things I've done to help. First, you need to add some flux. You can use liquid or paste, either one. The idea is that you want to remelt all of the solder that is there and have it adhere better. If you just touch a hot iron to it, you might melt something or just pull more solder off. By adding flux, you can essentially heat the solder that is there without direct contact. The flux carries the heat for you. You really can't overdo the flux, Just clean off what is there after the job is finished. My two cents from reflowing 2 MCUs and a few Kailh hot swap sockets.
Almost got it working, added some flux and the LEDs were fixed for one second...and then the LED went bonkers and i attempted to remove it thus lifting a couple pads :(
RIP.
Anyone know of any good alternative PCBs? My QMK pcb has just been trouble since day 1 with CTRL/Capslock swapping every few weeks and now LEDs dying
This hotswap qmk PCB works if you don't mind modding the port hole of the case a bit https://www.lfkeyboards.com/lfk65-hotswap.html
Edit: just notice that it's out of stock.
Post by: swangful on Sat, 12 January 2019, 18:19:20
I'm not sure how you reflowed the led, but I'll give a few pointers for things I've done to help. First, you need to add some flux. You can use liquid or paste, either one. The idea is that you want to remelt all of the solder that is there and have it adhere better. If you just touch a hot iron to it, you might melt something or just pull more solder off. By adding flux, you can essentially heat the solder that is there without direct contact. The flux carries the heat for you. You really can't overdo the flux, Just clean off what is there after the job is finished. My two cents from reflowing 2 MCUs and a few Kailh hot swap sockets.
Almost got it working, added some flux and the LEDs were fixed for one second...and then the LED went bonkers and i attempted to remove it thus lifting a couple pads :(
RIP.
Anyone know of any good alternative PCBs? My QMK pcb has just been trouble since day 1 with CTRL/Capslock swapping every few weeks and now LEDs dying
This hotswap qmk PCB works if you don't mind modding the port hole of the case a bit https://www.lfkeyboards.com/lfk65-hotswap.html
Edit: just notice that it's out of stock.
I was able to use kbdfans 65% PCB. i think its nearly identical to jc65 with the exception of some cut outs and the color of the PCB. I had to dremel down two areas and it works just fine :)
(https://i.imgur.com/8vy0nK5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ca3Djuq.jpg)
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 24 March 2019, 05:55:45
Post by: swangful on Mon, 25 March 2019, 11:40:20
What's the layout look on the KBD65? Because it has a blocker near the arrow keys from the info? and there's no more mini usb versions
KBD65 PCB supports a few layouts, for some reason KBDfans didnt put that on their site. The KBD67 board itself does have a blocker, which the PCB supports that layout.
My KBD65 PCB is still going strong with no issues. USB-C is always an option at least.. :(
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 19:19:23
(https://i.imgur.com/J3TjGl0g.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oToqiS8g.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DV8DS6J.jpg)
Would like to thank a couple of peeps that helped me out along the way.
Jchan for your patience
Rama for allowing me to make a custom alu bottom
Switchnollie for creating the Key and Co keyset
Thesiscamper for helping me find a manufacturer to make the bottom
zanduby for sending me extra screws ^_^
I tried doing the washer mod but I couldn't get the usb port to fit seemed like I was gonna break the pcb if I forced it in.
Also, this board esd'd on me once but has been okay so far. just gotta remember to ground myself before using it.
that being said I have a spare nylon bottom that's a bit bowed I am willing to send it to someone who needs it just pay shipping :)
Post by: ninjinphu on Wed, 24 April 2019, 16:23:27
I was reading a few reddit posts and it seems like jchan is busy with some personal things that may cause inactivity. Does anyone know if he is still actively working on keyclack sales or if he's just unavailable via email?
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 25 April 2019, 13:52:37
Just found a solarized edition on keyclack! Very excited for it to arrive.
I was reading a few reddit posts and it seems like jchan is busy with some personal things that may cause inactivity. Does anyone know if he is still actively working on keyclack sales or if he's just unavailable via email?
I'm not sure how active he is on GH and group buys these days, but, FWIW, whenever I've made a purchase on his website (stuff he has in stock), it got shipped rather quickly.
Post by: ninjinphu on Thu, 25 April 2019, 14:59:10
Just found a solarized edition on keyclack! Very excited for it to arrive.
I was reading a few reddit posts and it seems like jchan is busy with some personal things that may cause inactivity. Does anyone know if he is still actively working on keyclack sales or if he's just unavailable via email?
I'm not sure how active he is on GH and group buys these days, but, FWIW, whenever I've made a purchase on his website (stuff he has in stock), it got shipped rather quickly.
Yeah - shipping notification came out last night. Stoked! I sure how things end up ok for jchan
Post by: rys on Tue, 25 June 2019, 08:43:07
KBD65 PCB supports a few layouts, for some reason KBDfans didnt put that on their site. The KBD67 board itself does have a blocker, which the PCB supports that layout.Is the USB-C version otherwise identical to the micro USB version? I'm worried about the USB-C port lining up correctly and fitting into the opening in the top case.
My KBD65 PCB is still going strong with no issues. USB-C is always an option at least.. :(
Post by: ninjinphu on Tue, 25 June 2019, 10:27:20
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 25 June 2019, 19:57:53
Finally got the board installed and noticed one of my stabilizer bars had come loose. It's the clear screw in ones from Zeal. Is there any way to replace/fix a stabilizer without unsoldering an entire board?
use a small flathead screwdriver or tweezers and push the bar back into the plastic clip. I have a board where the stabilizer pops loose every single time (zeal stabilizer) I remove a cap, and I've managed to pop it back in about 10 times now.
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 28 June 2019, 01:07:53
Finally got the board installed and noticed one of my stabilizer bars had come loose. It's the clear screw in ones from Zeal. Is there any way to replace/fix a stabilizer without unsoldering an entire board?If you can get your hands on one (a crafty sister or mother or buy one on amazon): use a small crochet hook (https://external-preview.redd.it/FqP5ds5vuOWTiPwK3AfZ7xo31-u_OHKbZ50ivZ6VJeM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=026c327051e379153ab7bb3b732877778bed226c)
Post by: ninjinphu on Fri, 28 June 2019, 11:32:22
Finally got the board installed and noticed one of my stabilizer bars had come loose. It's the clear screw in ones from Zeal. Is there any way to replace/fix a stabilizer without unsoldering an entire board?If you can get your hands on one (a crafty sister or mother or buy one on amazon): use a small crochet hook (https://external-preview.redd.it/FqP5ds5vuOWTiPwK3AfZ7xo31-u_OHKbZ50ivZ6VJeM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=026c327051e379153ab7bb3b732877778bed226c)
100% that is what I need. Thank you!!!
Post by: Cagevaper on Fri, 16 August 2019, 12:07:01
He included a second PCB, a PS2AVRGB. Would love to build it with some of the holy pandas I just got but can't seem to get the board to respond properly.
To start, none of the LED's work, secondly I can't get any of the kemappings to actually go to the board. I can map keys in the software and it uploads successfully but no luck with those keys actually working. They either remain unassigned or have random mappings like tab, enter, space.
The bootloader recognizes the board and I am able to flash it and put it into boot mode by using tweezers to active the left control key. When i go into the bootloader software and look at the "other" tab all of the LED options are greyed out.
I'm still quite new to working with custom PCB's so I really appreciate any help or advice!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 05 February 2023, 08:54:11
My colleague on Keebtalk Rico has been working on a replacement upgraded PCB for the M65-a and has posted his announcement here
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/the-phoenix-project-no-1-a-pcb-replacement-for-the-rama-m65-a-keyboard/18725/2
USB mini like the original so that it fits without case modifications. Hotswap and solder options with a newly designed flexible plate and half plate.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 26 March 2023, 14:13:44
More details about the project here:
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/the-phoenix-project-no-1-a-pcb-replacement-for-the-rama-m65-a-keyboard/18725/23