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Offline iMav

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« on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 11:44:47 »
Most of web-enabled reporting tools I sell require a Java 6 runtime environment on the client side (browser plugin).  Java 6.0 is available from Sun for Linux and the nasty.  However, java dev and releases for OS X are controlled by Apple.  

Apple did release Java 6, but only a 64-bit version.  And there are NO 64-bit browsers currently available for OS X.  Thus, we are stuck at Java 5 for web-enabled applications.

Which means, I have to launch a linux VM whenever I need to access any of these web tools (which is a PITA).  Maybe a switch back to linux on a thinkpad is in order...  

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 12:40:07 »
What are you running OSX on?  I thought you were Apple free at the moment?
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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 12:53:14 »
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What are you running OSX on?  I thought you were Apple free at the moment?
Current gen blackbook
 - 2.4Ghz C2D CPU
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BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 13:12:59 »
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BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)


You are calling everyone out today!

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 13:22:50 »
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You are calling everyone out today!
Just poking some fun at ashort.  He's used to it.

What I should've done is simply direct him to the public picture I posted at least 4 weeks ago in the setup thread.

HERE!!

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:14:21 »
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BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)

I'm far too busy to keep up with your laptop of the week.

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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:17:35 »
WinXP SP2 rules all.  :)

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:18:55 »
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WinXP SP2 rules all.  :)


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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:32:18 »
Well, he probably has a point - I suspect XP SP2 is the most used OS.

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:37:26 »
Doesn't make it the best one for me though.

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:42:59 »
I use a streamlined version of XP SP2.  I used nlite to remove all the stuff that comes with it that I'll never use.  As a result, I got a really fast OS that runs everything.  Including my favorite... games!  :)

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 15:09:29 »
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Doesn't make it the best one for me though.


No OS is the best one for me.

My server runs Ubuntu 7.10 (IIRC,) my Mac runs OS X 10.5.2 (haven't applied all the updates, m'kay?,) and my ThinkPad runs XP Tablet SP2 (again, haven't applied all the updates...)

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 15:25:06 »
OS 9.2 all the way!

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 16:39:32 »
GS/OS System 6.0.1 all the way.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 18:48:52 »
Linux on Thinkpad here and I can't live without it! Plus through Lenovo you avoid paying the M$ tax (their linux machines actually are cheaper, unlike other people). Everything works like a charm, very well supported (under Ubuntu right now).

Desktop also runs linux of course :)
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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 03 July 2008, 20:23:26 »
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Linux on Thinkpad

+1  (as long as that thinkpad is sans touchpad)  ;)

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 00:48:11 »
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+1  (as long as that thinkpad is sans touchpad)  ;)


I really prefer the touchpad to the tracking point (but then again I also prefer a numpad ;)) Most of the time I have a small logitech nano that I use, and an external board with the laptop on a stand.
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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 02:31:42 »
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I really prefer the touchpad to the tracking point


You're treading on sacred ground here buddy, watch out. :)

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 07:31:33 »
To be fair, Apple's touchpads are actually quite decent.

(But, I'd STILL rather have a TrackPoint. Which is part of the reason I usually use my EnduraPro with my iBook.)

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:10:03 »
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You're treading on sacred ground here buddy, watch out. :)


Only one way to settle this :mad:
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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:19:22 »
I would like to see a rematch...: )
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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:27:40 »
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I would like to see a rematch...: )

I would like to see blunt strikes to the watermelon.  Not bashing the corner of the Model M into the table (through the melon).

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 12:03:24 »
Of course, the most flimsy way to get a pointing stick not built into a laptop would probably be the UltraNav IV keyboard (which does also have a touchpad.) Either that, or the IBM Model M4 or Unicomp Mighty Mouse.

Versus a crappy Cirque Easy Cat (probably the most flimsy way to get a standalone touchpad?) I think the keyboard would quickly destroy the touchpad. ;)

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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 12:42:56 »
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Of course, the most flimsy way to get a pointing stick not built into a laptop would probably be the UltraNav IV keyboard (which does also have a touchpad.) Either that, or the IBM Model M4 or Unicomp Mighty Mouse.

Versus a crappy Cirque Easy Cat (probably the most flimsy way to get a standalone touchpad?) I think the keyboard would quickly destroy the touchpad. ;)


? watermelons? model m? zenith bull? rematch?
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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:07:40 »
I thought we were having a match against a TrackPoint and a touchpad. ;)

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:25:46 »
Lol, sorry, wrong thread
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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:37:11 »
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Lol, sorry, wrong thread

Wrong thread?  This seems to be the thread for pretty much anything.  ;)

Back to the ORIGINAL topic...

Am I the only Mac user here who needs Java 6.0 for the browser?

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 04 July 2008, 15:11:28 »
I haven't run into anything Java that I've needed to use that didn't work, so...