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Title: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 16 September 2019, 14:02:08
Information in the IC ------> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101963.0

(https://i.imgur.com/XA9U3YT.jpg)

Top mount, alps compatible AEK curve themed numpad.

$75/kit, shipping will be invoiced separately. 50 spots, 4 colors, 2 plate types. The price was a little higher than originally quoted in the IC post because I didn't realize how expensive beige filament is compared to translucent. If you're wanting an ADK64 to go with this, participating in this GB will get you a spot in the redesigned ADK64 I plan to run after my other GB is finished.


Timeline:

Invoices paid by Monday Sept 23
Place PCB order Monday Sept 23
Begin Printing Monday Sept 23

Extending GB time to Sept. 30
PCB lead time is 3 weeks, printing 50 Cases should take about the same time. Add a week for shipping.
Shipping to you around Oct. 28

Entry Form: [OPENS 8:30 AM PST SEPT 17]
https://forms.gle/eSjUJLmNm1qvABuu6
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 17 September 2019, 08:38:10
QMK Folder is here:

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 September 2019, 22:39:11
Approved!  :thumb:  Cool idea and design, good luck with the buy!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Tue, 17 September 2019, 23:01:35
any chance for a pcb only? (possibly extras?) i've been looking for a 4x5 number pad.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 18 September 2019, 08:03:40
any chance for a pcb only? (possibly extras?) i've been looking for a 4x5 number pad.

Put yourself down for a glow in the dark case + a whacky plate and send me an email. I'll do just a PCB for sure since that's the MOQ item.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Wed, 18 September 2019, 11:23:54
In for PCB (submitted)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 19 September 2019, 21:19:05
Small timeline change - I'm keeping this open another week so we can encompass a payday and get some more numbers for an MOQ break.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 21 September 2019, 16:50:38
Small timeline change - I'm keeping this open another week so we can encompass a payday and get some more numbers for an MOQ break.

Did I not make the cut? I put in an entry in the GB form but did not receive an invoice yet.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 21 September 2019, 21:02:28
Small timeline change - I'm keeping this open another week so we can encompass a payday and get some more numbers for an MOQ break.

Did I not make the cut? I put in an entry in the GB form but did not receive an invoice yet.

I extended the GB for another week, so I'll be invoicing next weekend. You're in there.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Sun, 22 September 2019, 09:46:41
thanks @ReDsNoTDeAd
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nachie on Tue, 24 September 2019, 02:07:17
The pcb does support 5x4 1u slots, Alps/Mx, has underglow and a speaker breakout. Considering adding an encoder footprint in the top left corner if there is interest.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Tue, 24 September 2019, 06:01:09
i'd be good with that. wanted to play with one of those anyway. please use EC11 as it seems like a common component. i know of at least 2 other makers that use them.

i'm planning on using this as a number pad but would also use it as a test bed for different QMK features/configurations.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Tue, 24 September 2019, 07:32:54
since it sounds like it's still in development, any chance for VIA compatibility?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: iaman on Tue, 24 September 2019, 07:45:48
since it sounds like it's still in development, any chance for VIA compatibility?
VIA isn’t accepting new boards, so... probably not, no???
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 24 September 2019, 07:46:05
The pcb does support 5x4 1u slots, Alps/Mx, has underglow and a speaker breakout. Considering adding an encoder footprint in the top left corner if there is interest.

+1 on the encoder support.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:05:34
VIA, was worth a shot. Thought it was more in the QMK configuration (whether VIA would support it or not) then what was built into the app, but truthfully, i haven't looked into it very much.

I think it would be great to have a small/lower cost board/kit that supported VIA just to get exposure for VIA. It seems like a really great concept, but i haven't had any compatible hardware yet. Personally, I don't have any trouble working in the code, but i know that's an issue for many. @Wilba, @upas
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: iaman on Tue, 24 September 2019, 10:26:48
VIA, was worth a shot. Thought it was more in the QMK configuration (whether VIA would support it or not) then what was built into the app, but truthfully, i haven't looked into it very much.

I think it would be great to have a small/lower cost board/kit that supported VIA just to get exposure for VIA. It seems like a really great concept, but i haven't had any compatible hardware yet. Personally, I don't have any trouble working in the code, but i know that's an issue for many. @Wilba, @upas
There's stuff you need to do in QMK to make a board possible to implement in VIA, but then there's work in VIA that needs to be done to recognize a board that is plugged in. Folks working on VIA have plans to make that easier and more straightforward, but aren't accepting new boards for the current implementation because they want to overhaul it before opening it up (so a bunch of currently-supported boards may also need some QMK updates to get VIA support again after those updates happen). Huge post on it in the readme for the repo (https://github.com/olivia/via-config).
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nevin on Tue, 24 September 2019, 11:34:00
Thanks for the update.
Yeah, i guess that makes things a little more difficult having to be identified in both places, bit it makes sense.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: rooski15 on Tue, 24 September 2019, 11:59:57
any chance for a pcb only? (possibly extras?) i've been looking for a 4x5 number pad.
Seems like you've worked out the details already (and this PCB may be more feature rich), but the XD24/cospad has a perforated bottom row that can be removed with hacksaw to make a perfectly functioning 5x4.

Even having one though, I'm getting in on this.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 24 September 2019, 12:18:46
The pcb does support 5x4 1u slots, Alps/Mx, has underglow and a speaker breakout. Considering adding an encoder footprint in the top left corner if there is interest.

Is this going to change the specs for the case and PCB, overall costs, and timeline for delivery? From a project management perspective, scope, cost, and schedule are all changing, and makes me wonder if this GB needs to be re-launched once the open items have been addressed and decided upon.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: nachie on Tue, 24 September 2019, 13:05:09
The pcb does support 5x4 1u slots, Alps/Mx, has underglow and a speaker breakout. Considering adding an encoder footprint in the top left corner if there is interest.

Is this going to change the specs for the case and PCB, overall costs, and timeline for delivery? From a project management perspective, scope, cost, and schedule are all changing, and makes me wonder if this GB needs to be re-launched once the open items have been addressed and decided upon.


I have several revisions for the pcb, all verified working. The final order for the pcbs will be placed once the GB closes, hence the “if there is interest part”. The encoder used will be EC11, and it’s just a footprint on the pcb, so doesn’t change anything price/timeline wise. Just thought I’d clear that out.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 24 September 2019, 13:11:41
Just spoke with nachie, and rotary support is already onboard. I'm going to update my spec list on the post. Sorry for the confusion everyone. GB proceeds as planned, with rotary support.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 24 September 2019, 15:06:33
Also, some people have been asking how these things go together... Wonder no more.

http://imgur.com/gallery/qWedbzV
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: nevin on Tue, 24 September 2019, 15:34:26
nice!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 28 September 2019, 15:54:14
Last day for these. We should have enough PCB orders to get a reasonable price, so expect an invoice in the next couple days.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: ChitownM2 on Sun, 29 September 2019, 10:40:21
Is there anything available to show the colors? Trying to decide between translucent and gray. I assume translucent is pictured in the OP?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 29 September 2019, 17:00:46
Is there anything available to show the colors? Trying to decide between translucent and gray. I assume translucent is pictured in the OP?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99383.0

Have a look at the submitted images toward the end of the thread. I'll be using those same filaments as Belle did.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Rotary Support added!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 30 September 2019, 14:40:46
Invoices are going to begin to trickle out tonight. Once I get a majority of those in I'll order filament and get to printing. Nachie has got the PCBs ordered, so we are full steam ahead  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Invoicing
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 30 September 2019, 22:57:33
All invoices are out. Please get those in as soon as you can.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: Vireca on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:41:08
The GB for ADK64 its going to be inmediatly after this GB are finished (incluiding all packages sent), when the PLA75 GB is finished or later?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:15:14
The GB for ADK64 its going to be inmediatly after this GB are finished (incluiding all packages sent), when the PLA75 GB is finished or later?

Well, I plan to run it as soon as the PLA75 is fulfilled, but that may land on a very inconvenient time in regards to school. Let's say late December to be safe.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:27:17
There are a couple stragglers on invoices that I just sent a reminder to. Please get those paid.

Filament is on the way. Shoutout to mkultra.click for proxying me some filaments that don't ship to Canada from the manufacturers.

Getting test plates cut from FR4 at the university this week (as my protos were printed). I expect no issues with this, I just want to be sure. Plates are made fast ship with DHL so they will not hold up the fulfillment if they need a day of tweaks.

Nachie says the PCBs are done, so when China gets off holidays they will be shipped to him for assembly. I will be sending the finished cases and plates to him in the US so everyone can get cheap domestic shipping, as I am up in the great white north.

So yeah, full steam ahead, everything is looking good. Get those invoices paid.

Andy
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: nevin on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:40:19
Thanks for the update Andy!

Do you do a good bit of modeling?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: ZivZulander on Wed, 02 October 2019, 15:34:33
Just paid. I realized I accidentally put in order twice, so I'm canceling one of them (hope that's okay). Can't wait to get the numpad. :)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 02 October 2019, 18:52:07
Thanks for the update Andy!

Do you do a good bit of modeling?

Between the ADK64, ADK18, PLA75 and 5 years of school and internships I'd hope so :D
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - All Invoices Sent!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 06 October 2019, 19:55:03
All but one invoice is paid. Translucent Cases are all made. Waiting for the other 3 filament types to arrive.

PCBs are shipping to Nachie tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 07 October 2019, 21:02:57
(https://i.imgur.com/WXnLrb2_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

PCBs are with nachie. I've got all the translucent cases done. Grey and Beige filament still in transit, and I was shipped a glow in the dark filament that was all brittle and not sealed, so I'm getting that replaced ASAP.

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: nevin on Mon, 07 October 2019, 22:04:38
looking good!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 09 October 2019, 22:30:24
So, the biggest complaint about the ADK64 was the layer stepping on the curve. I listened, and did some figuring to get it smoother - I think everyone is going to be really happy with the quality on the ADK18 ;) The edges are MUCH nicer.

(https://i.imgur.com/9Idii2b.jpg)

ADK18 on the left, ADK64 on the right.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: Caktuss on Mon, 14 October 2019, 02:15:52
How's the timeline looking? I keep checking my mail and panicking I've missed the shipping invoice. That's still forthcoming?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 14 October 2019, 11:22:41
How's the timeline looking? I keep checking my mail and panicking I've missed the shipping invoice. That's still forthcoming?

Yes. I had originally planned to ship these from Canada, but nachie has offered to the the distribution, so I'll be sending all the cases down to him, as most participants are in the US, so shipping for them will be much cheaper.

I'm aiming to have the box in the mail to him by the 25th, and he will distribute the week after. That's when you should expect a shipping invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: Caktuss on Mon, 14 October 2019, 22:28:49
Awesome, thanks for keeping us up to date and for the quick replies. Really appreciate it.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: nevin on Mon, 14 October 2019, 23:15:29
Awesome, thanks for keeping us up to date and for the quick replies. Really appreciate it.

+1
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - PCBs are here
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 16 October 2019, 23:29:16
(https://i.imgur.com/K2dNqUq.jpg)

Almost done case production. Everything is coming out beautifully. Been slacking on getting the plates ordered, so I'll do that when exams let up later this week. These should be heading over to nachie for distribution to customers in less than 2 weeks :D

Also, those ones on the right that are standing up is how I print the tops to get them so smooth. The center column is all support material, but its worth it for the refined curve.

I've got a few extra PCBs, DM me if you're interested in getting a kit!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: nevin on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:02:03
nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 23 October 2019, 18:19:17
Just giving a small weekly update! Plates are being made now, they should be with me next week. All cases are done printing, I'm just slowly adding the inserts. Nachie is well underway with the pcbs (hand assembly, he's a trooper), so we are on track, and all is well!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 28 October 2019, 09:59:10
Happy Monday, realized I forgot to print the glow in the dark case (and a few extras for latecomers/cancelled and re-picked-up orders) - did a nozzle swap, and in the process I ruined my printer's calibration, so I'll need a few days to get that sorted between staying afloat in school. Plates are taking their sweet time from the manufacturer anyways, so this shouldn't translate into an actual delay.

Nachie has got all his PCBs done, so I expect to ship everything to him before Nov 8, add a week for intl shipping, which means he'll start getting them to your right around mid November. My apologies for the timeline creep, but at least its only a week or two ;)

Andy
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: nevin on Mon, 28 October 2019, 10:16:08
Thanks for the update. School comes first, we can wait.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: Caktuss on Mon, 28 October 2019, 11:01:59
Thanks for the update. School comes first, we can wait.

This.

I just had to be a special snowflake and go for glow in the dark :(
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Printing well underway
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 03 November 2019, 14:45:23
Replacement translucent cases for those who ordered glow in the dark finish printing today. Plates to arrive at my place on Nov. 5, so I plan to have everything ready to box up and ship to Nachie for this week.

Just a little housekeeping, the tabs on the bottom housing (see attached image) are a little fragile, and are possible to snap off. If this happens, do not fret, as they have no structural significance to the assembled case, they just help with alignment. I snapped all 8 of them off on a test case for sheets and googles and it assembles and aligns perfectly, as the actual positioning is done by the grooves in the top case.

Tl;dr, don't worry if those little cylinders come off.

(https://i.imgur.com/7p3CtAV.jpg)

So yeah. Let's say the cases get to Nachie on Nov 14, then he's just gotta pack everything up and send it to y'all. Quick payment of shipping invoices will make everything go smoothly, so please be fast one getting those in.

Andy
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 November 2019, 00:29:42
Hi frens, the plates are in. They fit perfectly and I'm very happy with the quality from the PCB shop.

Uni students get a whole week off for mental health (Read: Keyboard GBs) in Canada, so I'll have time to get these things all cleaned up, threaded inserts in, and check all the fits by hand. I plan to have them in the mail to Nachie by Monday.

Stay warm out there.

Andy
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 15 November 2019, 02:57:29
So, I've got good news and bad news.

Good news is that the plates and cases are en route to Nachie. Bad news is that Nachie is leaving on a long vacation the day they're set to arrive.

We got screwed over by the Canadian holiday and it messed with shipping times, but I've got a friend in California that I'm forwarding the box to, and he will do the last leg of fulfillment. He did a fine job with the ADK64, so I've got full faith there should be little to no delay with this hiccup.

Sorry everyone!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: nevin on Fri, 15 November 2019, 06:45:20
thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: Caktuss on Fri, 15 November 2019, 12:18:41
Assuming Nachie is sending the pcb's over to your friend as well?

At least these delays are giving me some good time to practice my switching lubing! Patience pays off.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: nevin on Fri, 15 November 2019, 12:33:09
bag lube baby, ...bag lube.... [winky]
lol
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Fri, 15 November 2019, 13:59:02
Can’t wait to get mine. Just sad I didn’t order a second one of these in transparent as well. Thanks for keeping us updated.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 15 November 2019, 16:13:52
Can’t wait to get mine. Just sad I didn’t order a second one of these in transparent as well. Thanks for keeping us updated.

There should be extras, so I can get you hooked up.

Assuming Nachie is sending the pcb's over to your friend as well?

At least these delays are giving me some good time to practice my switching lubing! Patience pays off.

Yes.

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ZivZulander on Sun, 17 November 2019, 20:06:32
I forgot about separate shipping invoice. Have those been sent out already?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 17 November 2019, 20:18:08
I forgot about separate shipping invoice. Have those been sent out already?

They'll be going out in the next few days.

The contingency plan is also in place if the shipping Gods are not favorable
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 18 November 2019, 15:44:03
Box is out for delivery today! Looks like Nachie will have enough time to get these out. Everything will be in the mail by the 21st.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: nevin on Mon, 18 November 2019, 15:57:27
 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: Oni74 on Mon, 18 November 2019, 16:31:30
Box is out for delivery today! Looks like Nachie will have enough time to get these out. Everything will be in the mail by the 21st.
Great! Looking forward to building this over Thanksgiving break!

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: Caktuss on Tue, 19 November 2019, 15:32:04
Box is out for delivery today! Looks like Nachie will have enough time to get these out. Everything will be in the mail by the 21st.
Great! Looking forward to building this over Thanksgiving break!

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Time to expose my family to this addiction.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Wed, 20 November 2019, 09:02:06
Should I be receiving a shipping/tracking email by tomorrow? Just curious.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping to you Nov 15
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 20 November 2019, 10:04:58
Should I be receiving a shipping/tracking email by tomorrow? Just curious.

I'm getting them out today. Been super busy with school, but I'll find a spare hour this afternoon.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 20 November 2019, 12:13:48
All shipping invoices are out. $6 for everyone except the one international guy.

Sorry for doing separate shipping invoices, but by waiting for Nachie to do it (he's got a shipping contract), everyone saved a couple bucks.

Get those paid!

Nachie is going to have the QMK stuff added in this week (hopefully before it gets delivered to anyone!) so that you can add your own layouts. It's flashed with the AEK numpad by default AFAIK.
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On a personal note, that looks like the end of the GB once they get to y'all. I'd love to see some pictures so I can add them to my portfolio (stuff like this actually helps a lot for showing you are capable of doing stuff in internship interviews).

Questions and comments can be DM'd, in this thread or emailed to rndkbd@gmail.com

Enjoy your numpads everyone!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Wed, 20 November 2019, 12:21:36
awesome! thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Wed, 20 November 2019, 13:00:12
Thank you again! I’ll make sure to take a pic of it next to my ADK64 build and shoot it over to ya!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: kairuwu on Thu, 21 November 2019, 17:16:20
Just received mine, looks good.  only thing is, is the PaladinPad v2 supposed to have whatever this silver marking is on the top of the pcb near the usb-c port?

https://imgur.com/a/pQNVFIZ
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Thu, 21 November 2019, 17:19:59
just a goof on the mask/paint, shouldn't effect anything
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 21 November 2019, 17:29:59
It's his logo of two paladins jousting  :p. I thought it was a moon with a messed up face on it when I got my first PCB from nachie as well.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Thu, 21 November 2019, 18:26:51
Thanks. Good to know.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Vireca on Fri, 22 November 2019, 04:06:51
Estimate time for the ADK64 GB round 2?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 22 November 2019, 04:53:45
Estimate time for the ADK64 GB round 2?

I don't even know what I'm doing 15 minutes from now...

Hoping to have the ADK64v2 designed over Christmas break, and then maybe a few weeks to prototype. I'm so busy with my final year that I can't do anything more than manage group buys ATM.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Vireca on Fri, 22 November 2019, 11:57:45
Estimate time for the ADK64 GB round 2?

I don't even know what I'm doing 15 minutes from now...

Hoping to have the ADK64v2 designed over Christmas break, and then maybe a few weeks to prototype. I'm so busy with my final year that I can't do anything more than manage group buys ATM.
Yeah, dont worry. Better to finish something than start many projects at the same time
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 15:48:33
Mine was delivered today.

Stupid question - i received a ziploc bag of diodes - what are they for?

I also tried to test the PCB and zero response so AEK numpad firmware is not already flashed. I just checked QMK and Paladinpad v2 is not listed yet.

It looks like I'll need to wait until QMK is updated so that I can get the firmware installed and test the PCB before soldering on my switches.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: The Equals D on Fri, 22 November 2019, 21:21:35
Mine was delivered today.

Stupid question - i received a ziploc bag of diodes - what are they for?

I also tried to test the PCB and zero response so AEK numpad firmware is not already flashed. I just checked QMK and Paladinpad v2 is not listed yet.

It looks like I'll need to wait until QMK is updated so that I can get the firmware installed and test the PCB before soldering on my switches.

I am pretty sure those diodes need to be soldered on to the pcb in order for it to work, this would solve both of your issues.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sat, 23 November 2019, 10:01:37
yes. the diodes are needed. if not, one leg of the switch is not connected to the matrix, so nothing will register.
the diodes are directional. think of them as a one way valve, electricity can only flow one direction. there is an anode and a cathode (see diagram below)
[attach=1]

the stripe of the diode (the cathode) gets soldered to the square pad on the pcb. all of the ones that the labels begin with D underscore "D_" are where you put the diodes.
[attach=2]
thanks kairuwu for the pics

it helps to pre bend the legs down to go through the holes
[attach=3]
credit: keeb.io - iris pcb/diode shot

if you solder in your diodes before your switches, you'll be able to test the pcb before soldering the switches in.
you could actually test it without the diodes, but you'd need to short one of the switch pins to the square diode pin.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: The Equals D on Sat, 23 November 2019, 11:21:31
yes. the diodes are needed. if not, one leg of the switch is not connected to the matrix, so nothing will register.
the diodes are directional. think of them as a one way valve, electricity can only flow one direction. there is an anode and a cathode (see diagram below)
(Attachment Link)

the stripe of the diode (the cathode) gets soldered to the square pad on the pcb. all of the ones that the labels begin with D underscore "D_" are where you put the diodes.
(Attachment Link)
thanks kairuwu for the pics

it helps to pre bend the legs down to go through the holes
(Attachment Link)
credit: keeb.io - iris pcb/diode shot

if you solder in your diodes before your switches, you'll be able to test the pcb before soldering the switches in.
you could actually test it without the diodes, but you'd need to short one of the switch pins to the square diode pin.

Thank you for this, I was a bit intimidated about soldering diodes for the first time.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sat, 23 November 2019, 11:52:24
No worries. Let us know if you have any further questions.

There are no wrong or silly questions when your learning.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Caktuss on Sat, 23 November 2019, 19:04:46
Have mine soldered and ready to complete after the qmk goes up. Can't wait to put it to use Monday at work. Anyone know how to change the colors?

edit;
Nvm, figured it out. Top left is function currently; hold and start hitting randomly.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 23 November 2019, 22:16:23
Have mine soldered and ready to complete after the qmk goes up. Can't wait to put it to use Monday at work. Anyone know how to change the colors?

edit;
Nvm, figured it out. Top left is function currently; hold and start hitting randomly.

Thanks for this info - i was scratching my head wondering why the numlock key doesn't work. :D

Does your .(Del) key work? Mine doesn't, but I can't spot any issues in my soldering. Tried shorting both diode contacts and switch contacts to no avail.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 23 November 2019, 23:38:35
Here is the stuff for the paladinpad to put into your own QMK folder if you're savvy. I've bugged Nachie about getting it merged into the main fork ASAP.

Num lock is the function layer, and the dot doesn't work off the hop, as his default hex has the wrong keycode. This is a known issue, and the file in the zippyshare link is updated to fix this (literally just swapping a KC_PDOT and KC_NO).

(https://i.imgur.com/MR8GfHd.png)

The function layer is here:

(https://i.imgur.com/tDVhxgJ.png)

Edit: Thanks Nevin - this works much better.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sat, 23 November 2019, 23:50:24
can you just attach it to the thread please. that file share's a bit sketchy.

- attach just like you did the pics, but attach the zip file "link at the end of post"
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Caktuss on Sun, 24 November 2019, 00:08:13
Have mine soldered and ready to complete after the qmk goes up. Can't wait to put it to use Monday at work. Anyone know how to change the colors?

edit;
Nvm, figured it out. Top left is function currently; hold and start hitting randomly.

Thanks for this info - i was scratching my head wondering why the numlock key doesn't work. :D

Does your .(Del) key work? Mine doesn't, but I can't spot any issues in my soldering. Tried shorting both diode contacts and switch contacts to no avail.

Everything works for me. I'm not too hardware savvy about this (am a software dev, never touched hw until now), but to check I had my wife activate switches while using a voltmeter to check each was working.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Caktuss on Sun, 24 November 2019, 00:14:10
https://imgur.com/a/VMiQbKm
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sun, 24 November 2019, 00:38:15
@ReDsNoTDeAd - was probably because it's such a small file size.

got it. thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sun, 24 November 2019, 00:44:27
@ReDsNoTDeAd - also add the firmware to the 1st or 2nd post (you reserved) or a link to the post in the thread that has the file so others can find it easily.
Code: [Select]
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102453.msg2837169#msg2837169
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Sun, 24 November 2019, 11:33:42
Received everything a couple of days ago. Looks great. This will actually be my first venture with soldering --- purchased a soldering setup and everything needed yesterday. Purchased some mill max hotswap sockets in hopes that I can convert the pcb to hotswap and from what I can tell I believe they should fit in just fine.

Purchased this:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/mill-max-manufacturing-corp/7305-0-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED1039-ND/1765737

Can't wait for the sockets to come in the mail so I can get to building!

I did notice one rough corner on the case and was curious if this material took to sanding well. If so I might take some super fine grit to it to smooth it out. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 24 November 2019, 13:10:35
Received everything a couple of days ago. Looks great. This will actually be my first venture with soldering --- purchased a soldering setup and everything needed yesterday. Purchased some mill max hotswap sockets in hopes that I can convert the pcb to hotswap and from what I can tell I believe they should fit in just fine.

Purchased this:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/mill-max-manufacturing-corp/7305-0-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED1039-ND/1765737

Can't wait for the sockets to come in the mail so I can get to building!

I did notice one rough corner on the case and was curious if this material took to sanding well. If so I might take some super fine grit to it to smooth it out. Any thoughts?

Yeah, it was sort of a compromise that had to be made to get the very smooth curve. I tried using some 2000 grit on it And it did smooth out, but the black sandpaper did end up depositing a little bit of material in the plastic, and I couldn't get it out with water + a brush, so proceed at your own risk.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 16:18:13
Here is the stuff for the paladinpad to put into your own QMK folder if you're savvy. I've bugged Nachie about getting it merged into the main fork ASAP.

Num lock is the function layer, and the dot doesn't work off the hop, as his default hex has the wrong keycode. This is a known issue, and the file in the zippyshare link is updated to fix this (literally just swapping a KC_PDOT and KC_NO).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MR8GfHd.png)


The function layer is here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tDVhxgJ.png)


Edit: Thanks Nevin - this works much better.

I've got the diodes soldered and PCB tested to a degree. Beyond the Fn and ./Del key, I also have one or two other switch slots that register a test, but doesn't show character input on keyboardtester.com. I'm going to pause here and wait for paladinpad v2 to show up on QMK configurator. Hoping that will get done soon-ish.

Thanks for the timely fulfillment and responses on email/forum.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 26 November 2019, 16:20:30
Here is the stuff for the paladinpad to put into your own QMK folder if you're savvy. I've bugged Nachie about getting it merged into the main fork ASAP.

Num lock is the function layer, and the dot doesn't work off the hop, as his default hex has the wrong keycode. This is a known issue, and the file in the zippyshare link is updated to fix this (literally just swapping a KC_PDOT and KC_NO).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MR8GfHd.png)


The function layer is here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tDVhxgJ.png)


Edit: Thanks Nevin - this works much better.

I've got the diodes soldered and PCB tested to a degree. Beyond the Fn and ./Del key, I also have one or two other switch slots that register a test, but doesn't show character input on keyboardtester.com. I'm going to pause here and wait for paladinpad v2 to show up on QMK configurator. Hoping that will get done soon-ish.

Thanks for the timely fulfillment and responses on email/forum.

It's flashed for the AEK Alps layout, so if you're using MX you might get some incompatibility with the default flashed layout.

I'm terribly sorry we didn't get the QMK ready to go. I can flash you a hex if you send me a KLE if I can help you out that way :)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Tue, 26 November 2019, 16:27:35
got my pcb as well. thanks! looks great! nice job @nachie . should be able to test tomorrow evening-ish
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:24:58
Here is the stuff for the paladinpad to put into your own QMK folder if you're savvy. I've bugged Nachie about getting it merged into the main fork ASAP.

Num lock is the function layer, and the dot doesn't work off the hop, as his default hex has the wrong keycode. This is a known issue, and the file in the zippyshare link is updated to fix this (literally just swapping a KC_PDOT and KC_NO).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MR8GfHd.png)


The function layer is here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tDVhxgJ.png)


Edit: Thanks Nevin - this works much better.

I've got the diodes soldered and PCB tested to a degree. Beyond the Fn and ./Del key, I also have one or two other switch slots that register a test, but doesn't show character input on keyboardtester.com. I'm going to pause here and wait for paladinpad v2 to show up on QMK configurator. Hoping that will get done soon-ish.

Thanks for the timely fulfillment and responses on email/forum.

It's flashed for the AEK Alps layout, so if you're using MX you might get some incompatibility with the default flashed layout.

I'm terribly sorry we didn't get the QMK ready to go. I can flash you a hex if you send me a KLE if I can help you out that way :)

It's not a huge issue so no need to be apologize, Andy. I'm doing things I haven't done before and learning along the way, and I'm grateful for your willingness to help figure things out.

I've confirmed that current configuration is different from the standard numpad, with some keys configured differently (/ key is configured for NumpadEqual), and some keys do not appear to be configured at all (- key and . key). I will be happy to take up your offer of providing a hex file, but I do not know how to create a KLE file. Would it suffice to say that I'm looking for a standard-ish numpad as depicted in the attached picture?

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Wed, 27 November 2019, 02:16:57
playing with the firmware....
- updated my build environment (took a minute....)
- initially the hex was too large on the first default make
- changes made to paladinpad/rules.mk
Code: [Select]
EXTRAKEY_ENABLE ?= no # Audio control and System control(+450)
AUDIO_ENABLE ?= no
   - this got it down to an acceptable file size and there is not a speaker installed at (P1) by default anyway (you'd have to buy one and solder it in)

- also started a WIN/PC keymap but want to test it before i post it
- i'll also post both versions (mac, pc) of the hex files for others as well as makeup a KLE graphic of the keymaps
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Wed, 27 November 2019, 02:25:36
@Oni74 - numlock is currently running in the firmware you have, but it's accessed by holding Fn + Ent = NumLock (Fn is top left).
- the 2u plus will be adjusted for the win/pc version
- your proposed "5" for Fn + 5 = NumLock is already taken by one of the LED controls (RGB_SAD)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 29 November 2019, 12:57:45
@Oni74 - numlock is currently running in the firmware you have, but it's accessed by holding Fn + Ent = NumLock (Fn is top left).
- the 2u plus will be adjusted for the win/pc version
- your proposed "5" for Fn + 5 = NumLock is already taken by one of the LED controls (RGB_SAD)

ah got it - didn't look into the existing settings since it isn't usable.

Can you u/l the pc version of the hex file? I'd like to flash mine to thoroughly test all the switch locations - i'm particularly concerned about the - key as it doesn't respond at all at this time.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Fri, 29 November 2019, 13:23:37
yes. hopefully have some more time this evening to mess with it.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 29 November 2019, 13:29:11
@Oni74 - numlock is currently running in the firmware you have, but it's accessed by holding Fn + Ent = NumLock (Fn is top left).
- the 2u plus will be adjusted for the win/pc version
- your proposed "5" for Fn + 5 = NumLock is already taken by one of the LED controls (RGB_SAD)

ah got it - didn't look into the existing settings since it isn't usable.

Can you u/l the pc version of the hex file? I'd like to flash mine to thoroughly test all the switch locations - i'm particularly concerned about the - key as it doesn't respond at all at this time.

Compare the PC to AEK numpad layout and you'll see the - is shifted too, so it shouldn't be a hardware problem. I'll get a PC hex flashed this afternoon.

Edit: PC layout .hex attached. Compiled using the firmware avail in the thread, but still use at your own risk.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Fri, 29 November 2019, 20:15:51
@Oni74 - numlock is currently running in the firmware you have, but it's accessed by holding Fn + Ent = NumLock (Fn is top left).
- the 2u plus will be adjusted for the win/pc version
- your proposed "5" for Fn + 5 = NumLock is already taken by one of the LED controls (RGB_SAD)

ah got it - didn't look into the existing settings since it isn't usable.

Can you u/l the pc version of the hex file? I'd like to flash mine to thoroughly test all the switch locations - i'm particularly concerned about the - key as it doesn't respond at all at this time.

Compare the PC to AEK numpad layout and you'll see the - is shifted too, so it shouldn't be a hardware problem. I'll get a PC hex flashed this afternoon.

Edit: PC layout .hex attached. Compiled using the firmware avail in the thread, but still use at your own risk.

Thanks, Andy. With the hex file you uploaded, i can confirm that the . key is now working. We still have the issue on the top row where we have /,*,- keys are showing up as NumpadEqual,/,*.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sat, 30 November 2019, 01:19:59
ok. sorry for the delay. wanted to make sure the changes in the firmware worked (and i hadn't even soldered in the diodes yet till just about an hour ago)
here are two images of the two versions of the firmware. blue is the Fn (function layer)
[attach=1][attach=2]
[attachurl=3]
[attachurl=4]

- please check the numlock function if you use it. i couldn't see if it was working (on a mac with a custom non-standard keyboard (no leds) & have never really messed with numlock). tried keyboard viewer, but no luck.
- some of the RGB functions can be minimized to one key adding shift to go the opposite direction. (thoughts?)
- i want to try the Fn key as a tap/hold combo. i've seen it done before & think i know what the codes are but need to test it. this is pretty close to what i've been using as a number pad on a function layer on my keyboard (with esc & tab and i really like it)
[attach=5]
- i'll also zip & upload all of the changes i made for others to play with.

also, let me know if you want a specific layout programed either on the main layer or the function layer if your not sure how to build the firmware until it gets listed in the QMK Configurator.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Sat, 30 November 2019, 02:40:49
another mac version
[attachimg=1]
[attachurl=2]

- moved the Fn to the zero key. if you tap it you get zero, if you hold it, it becomes Fn. (exactly what i was hoping for). i think it works better at the bottom, like any normal modifier/Fn key. it makes the other combinations easier to do... it's a lot more awkward to hold the Fn key in the top left position with your index finger and try to find the other key you're looking for with your thumb or other fingers UNDER you hand.
- added esc & tab to the numpad (been using it this way on another board for over a year and really like it)
- got rid of some of the led controls, you just have to add shift to get the decrease value instead of the increase value
- added navigation: home, end, page up, page down and arrows as keys on the Fn layer
- soft reset works instead of pressing button on bottom of pcb
 
...esc works as "clear" on the mac calculator as well

also attached are both ZIP files, my changes as well as the original. The folder needs added to your clone of QMK to be able to build any firmware.

changes made to:
- paladinpad.h    (redefined keymap to non-specific keys)
- rules.mk    (in build options)
- /keymaps/default/keymap.c     (filled in the KC_NO with the other positions of the keys)

the my changes ZIP also contains all 3 versions of the firmware's hex files.
[attachurl=3]
[attachurl=4]

thank you all for all your work on this. i've been wanting a small programmable (mac style) numpad to be able to play and dig into QMK further without using my daily keyboard as the guinea pig. the PCB looks great and has more options than you could ask for in this form factor. excellent job @nachie !
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 30 November 2019, 09:43:21
ok. sorry for the delay. wanted to make sure the changes in the firmware worked (and i hadn't even soldered in the diodes yet till just about an hour ago)
here are two images of the two versions of the firmware. blue is the Fn (function layer)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

- please check the numlock function if you use it. i couldn't see if it was working (on a mac with a custom non-standard keyboard (no leds) & have never really messed with numlock). tried keyboard viewer, but no luck.
- some of the RGB functions can be minimized to one key adding shift to go the opposite direction. (thoughts?)
- i want to try the Fn key as a tap/hold combo. i've seen it done before & think i know what the codes are but need to test it. this is pretty close to what i've been using as a number pad on a function layer on my keyboard (with esc & tab and i really like it)
(Attachment Link)
- i'll also zip & upload all of the changes i made for others to play with.

also, let me know if you want a specific layout programed either on the main layer or the function layer if your not sure how to build the firmware until it gets listed in the QMK Configurator.

Thank you for this! I downloaded the PC hex file and confirmed everything works as described! I'll build and post pictures later today.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Sat, 30 November 2019, 19:21:40
Just finished soldering in the diodes, 7305 Millmax Sockets and flashing in GMK. Everything is working great. So happy to finally have a matching numpad. Here are a couple of pics:

[attachimg=4]

[attachimg=5]

[attachimg=6]

I have three separate ADK64 builds so all I have to do is swap the keycaps when I swap my keeb and voila! I do still need to see about grabbing one of the translucent ones if any will be available soon as
I have a beautiful translucent ADK64 build with Jelly POM caps that needs a matching numpad as well  :)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 30 November 2019, 19:30:00
Just finished soldering in the diodes, 7305 Millmax Sockets and flashing in GMK. Everything is working great. So happy to finally have a matching numpad. Here are a couple of pics:

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

I have three separate ADK64 builds so all I have to do is swap the keycaps when I swap my keeb and voila! I do still need to see about grabbing one of the translucent ones if any will be available soon as
I have a beautiful translucent ADK64 build with Jelly POM caps that needs a matching numpad as well  :)

Thanks again!

Stunning. I love the Japanese keycaps on the ADK64 :)

Do you need an apple logo by chance? I may have an extra.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Sat, 30 November 2019, 19:50:27
Just finished soldering in the diodes, 7305 Millmax Sockets and flashing in GMK. Everything is working great. So happy to finally have a matching numpad. Here are a couple of pics:

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

I have three separate ADK64 builds so all I have to do is swap the keycaps when I swap my keeb and voila! I do still need to see about grabbing one of the translucent ones if any will be available soon as
I have a beautiful translucent ADK64 build with Jelly POM caps that needs a matching numpad as well  :)

Thanks again!

Stunning. I love the Japanese keycaps on the ADK64 :)

Do you need an apple logo by chance? I may have an extra.

Thank you! I actually took new pics and replaced them with better ones.

I actually do need an Apply logo! Haven't been able to find one without possible ripping it off an old AEK or something (which I don't have the heart to do).
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sat, 30 November 2019, 20:27:36
Just finished soldering in the diodes, 7305 Millmax Sockets and flashing in GMK. Everything is working great. So happy to finally have a matching numpad. Here are a couple of pics:

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

I have three separate ADK64 builds so all I have to do is swap the keycaps when I swap my keeb and voila! I do still need to see about grabbing one of the translucent ones if any will be available soon as
I have a beautiful translucent ADK64 build with Jelly POM caps that needs a matching numpad as well  :)

Thanks again!

Stunning. I love the Japanese keycaps on the ADK64 :)

Do you need an apple logo by chance? I may have an extra.

Thank you! I actually took new pics and replaced them with better ones.

I actually do need an Apply logo! Haven't been able to find one without possible ripping it off an old AEK or something (which I don't have the heart to do).

Ok. I'll email you when I locate my stash of them. I'm stealing those pictures for my instagram page if that's alright ;)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: SpenceIsGarbage on Sun, 01 December 2019, 07:28:33
Of course! Shot you a message with my instagram handle -- tag me in them!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Mon, 02 December 2019, 21:42:46
ok. sorry for the delay. wanted to make sure the changes in the firmware worked (and i hadn't even soldered in the diodes yet till just about an hour ago)
here are two images of the two versions of the firmware. blue is the Fn (function layer)
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

- please check the numlock function if you use it. i couldn't see if it was working (on a mac with a custom non-standard keyboard (no leds) & have never really messed with numlock). tried keyboard viewer, but no luck.
- some of the RGB functions can be minimized to one key adding shift to go the opposite direction. (thoughts?)
- i want to try the Fn key as a tap/hold combo. i've seen it done before & think i know what the codes are but need to test it. this is pretty close to what i've been using as a number pad on a function layer on my keyboard (with esc & tab and i really like it)
(Attachment Link)
- i'll also zip & upload all of the changes i made for others to play with.

also, let me know if you want a specific layout programed either on the main layer or the function layer if your not sure how to build the firmware until it gets listed in the QMK Configurator.

Thank you for this! I downloaded the PC hex file and confirmed everything works as described! I'll build and post pictures later today.
Following up with a pic! Thanks again for the hex file!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191203/1fdfe338f0dc794152bd5a6e7c2bb17d.jpg)

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Mon, 02 December 2019, 21:47:47
looks great. you're welcome.
what caps are those?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 02 December 2019, 23:22:14
looks great. you're welcome.
what caps are those?

Looks like GMK Yuri. Can't speak for the artisan.

That looks really good - the translucent + yuri has to be a favourite of mine.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Tue, 03 December 2019, 21:01:52
looks great. you're welcome.
what caps are those?

Looks like GMK Yuri. Can't speak for the artisan.

That looks really good - the translucent + yuri has to be a favourite of mine.

Actually they are Tai-Hao Clownfish set - very similar to GMK Yuri but 1/5 the price. I was originally going to install GMK Carbon, but I think the brighter orange of Clownfish/Yuri fits the ADK18 better.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Tue, 03 December 2019, 21:19:55
Tai-Hao was going to be my guess, but wasn't sure what the colorway was. i have an older red set before they started copying the GMK colorways.
thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Wed, 04 December 2019, 20:12:26
@nevin It looks like I spoke too soon. When I'd tested, I used QMK configurator to test and assumed all was well. However, when I tried to use my numpad in realworld use, the numlock failed to work, and the board is stuck in arrow key mode. FN+Enter does not toggle Numlock.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Wed, 04 December 2019, 20:33:15
Ok. I'll look at it again.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Thu, 05 December 2019, 04:16:49
ok, here we go....
took a bit to dig out an old ridiculously slow windows netbook & grab the switchhitter app to test it on but num lock is now functioning in this version of the firmware (attached below). i did test it on windows and the navigation does function as intended when num lock is off. that OS has little presence in our house. now, there is no led indicator for it and there is no per switch LEDs to be able to use as toggle indicators. we might be able to have the indication be reflected in the underglow but i don't think many got the translucent cases to be able to see it.

- for some reason numlock was not registering when it was on a Fn layer (accessed by Fn+Ent = NumLock)
- putting numlock back on the default layer as a regular key does register correctly though (...strange)
- so i moved the Fn key down to "0". if you tap 0, you get 0. if you hold 0 it's Fn (a way to dual purpose a key)

here's a visual of the keymap and the files are attached below
[attachimg=1]

changes to the keymap
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    /* DEFAULT */
KEYMAP(
KC_NLCK, KC_PSLS, KC_PAST, KC_PMNS,
KC_P7, KC_P8, KC_P9, KC_PPLS,
KC_P4, KC_P5, KC_P6, KC_PPLS,
KC_P1, KC_P2, KC_P3, KC_PENT,
LT(1, KC_P0), KC_PDOT, KC_PDOT, KC_PENT),

    /* FUNCTION */
KEYMAP(
KC_TRNS, RGB_TOG, RGB_MOD, KC_TRNS,
        RGB_HUI, RGB_SAI, RGB_VAI, KC_TRNS,
        RGB_HUD, RGB_SAD, RGB_VAD, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS,
KC_TRNS, KC_TRNS, RESET, KC_TRNS)

firmware: [attachurl=2]
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: Oni74 on Thu, 05 December 2019, 20:32:30
@nevin - just installed and tested successfully!

Thank you very much for going out of your way to develop a fix. Digging up an old netbook and going through its sluggish performance to do it deserves some serious kudos. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Thu, 05 December 2019, 22:03:44
thanks... yes, a little more bald.... lol

this isn't the first time i've had navigation keys not work in a function layer in QMK... so my first thought was to move it out to the main layer, and that worked. there's no special coding for the navigation when numlock is off, the keys report keypad numbers instead of keyboard numbers and the OS does the rest of the interpolation. that's why i had to dig out something with windows, on a mac, numlock hasn't done anything in decades... don't know if it ever did.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: kairuwu on Sun, 15 December 2019, 18:20:43
finally built mine after some troubleshooting bad switches; but I still have a few issues that I'm not sure about.

1. the plate moves around a lot in the case

The plate doesn't get pressed at all so that makes sense, but I would like for there to be little to no play rather than the amount present.

2. the usb-c port of the paladin pcb seems to be finicky

I have to press my cable down to get it to no be constantly connecting and disconnecting. don't have another cable to test but the cable works fine with my other usb-c builds.

3. one of the screws does not seem to thread properly

when I screw in without the bottom case in the way it screws in fine but with the case there it doesn't and just keeps on spinning

any ideas on how to fix these issues?
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 15 December 2019, 21:04:46
finally built mine after some troubleshooting bad switches; but I still have a few issues that I'm not sure about.

1. the plate moves around a lot in the case

The plate doesn't get pressed at all so that makes sense, but I would like for there to be little to no play rather than the amount present.

2. the usb-c port of the paladin pcb seems to be finicky

I have to press my cable down to get it to no be constantly connecting and disconnecting. don't have another cable to test but the cable works fine with my other usb-c builds.

3. one of the screws does not seem to thread properly

when I screw in without the bottom case in the way it screws in fine but with the case there it doesn't and just keeps on spinning

any ideas on how to fix these issues?

1. I'm assuming you've got an Alps plate. They're thinner, so try putting some dental bands or o-rings around the pegs to sandwich it in there.

2. I'll check with nachie. If the hardware is borked we have extras to get you fixed up.

3. Make sure the screw threads into the brass insert in the top when it's disassembled, and make sure there is no crud in the bottom case hole. The reason it spins is because it's not catching the thread iirc.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: kairuwu on Fri, 20 December 2019, 00:43:51
finally built mine after some troubleshooting bad switches; but I still have a few issues that I'm not sure about.

1. the plate moves around a lot in the case

The plate doesn't get pressed at all so that makes sense, but I would like for there to be little to no play rather than the amount present.

2. the usb-c port of the paladin pcb seems to be finicky

I have to press my cable down to get it to no be constantly connecting and disconnecting. don't have another cable to test but the cable works fine with my other usb-c builds.

3. one of the screws does not seem to thread properly

when I screw in without the bottom case in the way it screws in fine but with the case there it doesn't and just keeps on spinning

any ideas on how to fix these issues?

1. I'm assuming you've got an Alps plate. They're thinner, so try putting some dental bands or o-rings around the pegs to sandwich it in there.

2. I'll check with nachie. If the hardware is borked we have extras to get you fixed up.

3. Make sure the screw threads into the brass insert in the top when it's disassembled, and make sure there is no crud in the bottom case hole. The reason it spins is because it's not catching the thread iirc.

Thanks for the reply.

1. I'll look into getting some o-rings.

2. yea I found another usb-c cable and it has the same issue as the first cable where it wouldn't register as connected to the pc unless I pressed the cable down.  It still gets power as evidenced by the backlight turning on but it doesn't actually connect to my pc.

3. with the case disassembled and the bottom half out of the way the screw threads just fine, but with the bottom it doesn't seem to properly thread. there's a little bit of resistance but I can keep turning the screw endlessly.  tried all of the screws in the one corner and the same situation occurs.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: schlep on Sat, 21 December 2019, 03:09:51
Are there any extra PCBs (including the diodes) which I can purchase? I may have screw up the PBC while trying to solder the diode.

Also, are there any alternative PCBs out there in the market which I can use with the case? Soldering the diode is so much more painful than soldering the switches alone. I'd like to have one which does not require us to solder the diodes to the PCB.

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ZivZulander on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:40:34
Finally got around to building mine. Painted the case black, so it will match another keyboard I'm still working on. Pic has Tai Hao caps, but obviously not ideal (just finished cleaning AEK caps now, though, so I may put those in). Everything seems to be good with it, except the aforementioned play/wiggle of the (Alps) plate, which I think can remedy later, not a big deal. Blue Alps are glorious in this.  :thumb:

May want another kit in near future, if there are any extras still.

(https://i.imgur.com/CGVGZtQ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:46:46
Are there any extra PCBs (including the diodes) which I can purchase? I may have screw up the PBC while trying to solder the diode.

Also, are there any alternative PCBs out there in the market which I can use with the case? Soldering the diode is so much more painful than soldering the switches alone. I'd like to have one which does not require us to solder the diodes to the PCB.

Thank you!

Nachie has extras, but he is away until the end of February, so his extras are not available until then. Bad timing!

Any function row-less numpad should work. I believe ymdk makes one on AliExpress.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:48:34
Finally got around to building mine. Painted the case black, so it will match another keyboard I'm still working on. Pic has Tai Hao caps, but obviously not ideal (just finished cleaning AEK caps now, though, so I may put those in). Everything seems to be good with it, except the aforementioned play/wiggle of the (Alps) plate, which I think can remedy later, not a big deal. Blue Alps are glorious in this.  :thumb:

May want another kit in near future, if there are any extras still.

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(https://i.imgur.com/CGVGZtQ.jpg)


Looks awesome! What was your process for painting the print - did you use any primer etc?

And dental bands are your friend. They will sandwich in there and add the thickness (the missing 0.4mm between the Alps and MX plates). That's what I use on my Alps build.
Title: Re: [GB] ADK18 Numpad - Shipping now! Invoices out.
Post by: nevin on Thu, 02 January 2020, 07:18:30
@ZivZulander - nice! :thumb: